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"Careening Toward A New & Different Kind Of Civil War"

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Submitted by James H Kunstler via Kunstler.com,

The Beauty Shop had barely stopped smoldering in Ferguson, Missouri, when the Eric Garner grand jury decision came down on Staten Island — no probable cause to indict one particular cop for something — manslaughter? — in his choke-hold take-down of the 300-pound cigarette-seller. For my money, they should have indicted the whole gang of cops who were there that day, including the black female NYPD sergeant on the scene ostensibly “supervising” the action, at least for something like negligent homicide, since the infamous video shows them acting cruelly, stupidly, and indifferently as the poor guy just lay dying on the sidewalk.

Worse, the decision only muddied the public’s view of several events in recent years involving black people, police, and standards of behavior so that now a general opinion prevails that all black people are always treated badly for no reason. That was the same week, by the way, that a white Bosnian immigrant named Zemir Begic was bludgeoned to death by three black teenagers wielding hammers who were out beating on stopped cars on a St Louis street — a crime that was barely covered in the news media, and went unprotested outside the immigrant neighborhood where it occurred. It’s hard to blame the public for being confused about what may or may not be happening across the nation, but history will surely judge this as a tragic time for America.

If we can’t or won’t unpack the separate issues in these matters, the country is going to get into a lot more trouble. One issue is whether police forces in the USA are becoming goon squads. The decision by the federal government to offload tactical military equipment, including armored war wagons, on police departments far and wide was disgracefully stupid since it only gives the impression, when hauled out, that the police are at war with the citizenry. There ought to be public discussion of just flat-out taking all that stuff away from them.

Non-black America is constantly being importuned to “talk honestly” about race and then punished when they actually do. I’ll venture here to summarize what I think has actually happened, and I’m sure a lot of people won’t like it, including plenty of white people. I take a historical view. It is at least an interesting coincidence that the climax of the civil rights campaign produced a black separatist movement that has endured for half a century. It emerged at exactly the moment that the two signal civil rights acts passed congress in 1964-65 (the public accommodations act and the voting rights act).

I think the reason for the sudden rise of black separatism was anxiety among black Americans about the prospect of being formally invited to participate in what was then American common culture. By the late 1960s even colleges were chartering new, separate student unions (at the demand of black students). The sad irony of this has been lost to history. But in effect, by that time a large segment of the black population had opted out either actively or mentally from trying to join the then-dominant culture. The gulf between the two cultures has only grown wider since then, egged on by a foolish white-sponsored “diversity” campaign which had imposed the ridiculous idea that a common culture in one nation is unnecessary.

The result is a permanently oppositional black culture with an elaborate ideology of endless grievance and a guilt-tripped white political culture held hostage by it and pandering endlessly to it — and sandwiched in between those two dispositions is a whole lot of really bad behavior. The least you can say about the four incidents involving Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, Eric Garner, and Tamir Rice is that they involved some degree of ambiguity about what was actually going on, and in probably all those cases, at least, death was not caused by sheer malice. The same is not true about the case of Zemir Begic, or of the many people victimized during last year’s “knockout” game fad, or indeed the astounding number of people being gunned down regularly on the streets of Chicago.

I don’t think we’re capable of making these distinctions anymore, and surely not of doing anything constructive about them. Instead, we just appear to be careening toward a new and different kind of civil war.

 

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Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:14 | 5528811 falak pema
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the I can't breathe type.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:23 | 5528862 Newsboy
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Humans appear to be wired for genocide in hard times.

Rulers exploit this.

It could be as subtle as Catholic vs Protestant.

That worked for hundreds of years.

Obvious racial differences don't even require political indoctrination...

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:25 | 5528877 Four chan
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black crimiality is the only issue, until that changes nothing will change. they have a well deserved reputation.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:33 | 5528900 SethDealer
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we need to coddle blacks more!!

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:48 | 5528971 knukles
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This message was funded and endorsed by the Nation's Racial Divider in CHief

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:02 | 5529032 Oh regional Indian
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Zero Hedgies for the most part now seem to be bigots.

Quite the fall from grace.

People actually miss Trav77777777 from some prior comments appearing recently.

I predict peak ZeroHedge....

Go onnnnnnnn, take your money and run!

 

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:15 | 5529075 Tom Servo
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Fuck off Kuntsler - there were Bosnians protesting the hate crime of the murder of that guy.  Those same bosnians have to fucking work for a living, that's why they aren't out there day and night.  Also the Bosnians hate crime doesn't further the anarchist / communist agenda that Ferguson was coopted by.  I stream those protests to make sure that riff raff doesn't come to my neighborhood and it's clear to me there are outsiders sent here to whip Ferguson into a frenzy.  Now that NY took over, they all left to go to either oakland / berkeley, or new york.  It's the same occutards streaming from there now...

 

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:26 | 5529112 PartysOver
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"Black criminality"  Can Wall Street securitize that and then profits from swaps?  Just asking.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:31 | 5529125 N2OJoe
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The head of the Just Us dept. says Americans are cowards on the subject of race.

He then sees to it that anyone who speaks honestly about such things ends up losing his job/being boycotted and thoroughly lynched by the Oligarch stream media.

The only rational rebuke to such absurity being Assault Pitchforks and Guillotines.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 15:08 | 5529507 SWRichmond
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Racism serves the interests of the oligarchs, by keeping us divided amongst ourselves, rather than united against our common enemy the oligarchs.

it only gives the impression, when hauled out, that the police are at war with the citizenry.

They are, and it is foolish to suggest or imply that they are not.  If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

There ought to be public discussion of just flat-out taking all that stuff away from them.

if such a discussion ever were to break out, the oligarchs would false-flag someone or some group in order to show the need for the advanced weaponry in the hands of civilian LE.

 

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:21 | 5529098 noben
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Perhaps. But our goal should always be to speak to The Truth, no matter how unpleasant in its facts and implications.

And one should not be forbidden to criticize outside one's group for PC reasons. Rather, such criticism should aim to shine the spotlight on things that should be exposed for public discussion.

When you dance close, you end up stepping on toes. Especially at the beginning, until your skills improve. Of course some people just don't belong on that dance floor, and perhaps you refer to them.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:27 | 5529113 sandman.s
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There is a mile wide difference between being a bigot and a realist.  I'm not so much a bigot, I just know it to be a fact that black people generally act like fucking idiots.  But it doesn't just stop at black folks.  White kids are doing their best to catch up.   Why is everyone so fucking stupid anymore?

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:08 | 5529313 KnuckleDragger-X
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Divide and conquer is an old practice but there comes a point where it can't be controlled. They are pushing it to gain power and think they can control the situation just short of a race war but they are wrong and people will die because of it.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:08 | 5529307 Government need...
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Fuck you.  Nothing gets me seeing red faster than someone sayin 'rayciss/bigot' instead of addressing the VERY real differences in intelligence and criminality between da Negro and everyone else.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 00:07 | 5531291 jerry_theking_lawler
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No matter what, the truth is the truth but some folks don't wanna hear it. The reality is exactly that...as a 'race', there are differences in blacks and whites. I know its hard to swallow, but it is the truth.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 15:19 | 5529560 Loose Caboose
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When I look at the real criminals, the ones who are screwing us all by committing the really big "C" crimes, the faces are predominantly white.  Bilderberg, The City of London, Wall Street, the Banksters, Central Bankers, Military Industrial Complex, PINAC, all white.  Obama is the token black and even he isn't really black. 

As the gap continues to grow between the entitled, elite white snakes in charge and the rest of us, poverty will visit those who have never known it before - regardless of color.  Poverty engenders crime - regardless of color.  

Some crime is motivated by poverty, desperation and societal pressures.

Other crimes are motivated by greed, power and a god complex (psychopathy).

Which is more morally reprehensible? 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 01:54 | 5531499 Peelingtheonion
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PTI,

 

I have to agree...the pervasive racial bigotry by a lot of ZHers is astounding...a lot of good itel can be found on this site....but if you're black....you better have some thick ass skin... of the Obama caliber...to deal with the pillow case crowd comments....    

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:52 | 5528999 SumTing Wong
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I have a whole lot of black students. Some are even research students with me. It has absofuckinglutely nothing to do with color. It's all about mentality and ethics.

I live a county over from the college I teach at. It's 98.6% white. And you know who causes all the problems in our county? The meth-head whiteys. The 1.4% of black, Latino, and others know they will be pointed at if there is a crime. It's easy to pick out the black guy who comitted a crime when there are only three black guys in the county. Hell, that's an easy lineup to form. If it's some dumb ass cracker, well...we've got hundreds if not thousands of those. You'll be running lineups all day.

So what's my point? We 99%ers are a whole lot more alike than different. Sure we have FSA, but I've been in the Aldi often and have never seen a black person in my county use EBT. It's a bunch of singlewide trailer trash who have 22 tattoos and a dozen piercings. And they are always on those stupid iPhones, playing some game or something. I pay cash, have a dumb phone, and no mutilations of my body. I know...I'm a stupid fucking idiot for not trying to get my way onto the dole. You're probably right.

OK. Why don't we band together and throw off the 1%ers? Forget the color of skin, the way someone looks. Join arm in arm with guns loaded and take back what belongs to us!

Rant off. 

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:00 | 5529028 Timmay
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Black criminality?  No, BANKER criminality. Let's not forget why they are trying to divide and distract us....

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:07 | 5529046 Timmay
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Isn't it obvious the elites would rather have a "race"war rather than a "class" war? In a class war they would get slaughtered due to the sheer numbers.

 

Being the 99% is as close to unity as we can get in this country.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:04 | 5529295 Herd Redirectio...
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The elites would prefer we have our race war BEFORE we have our class war/civil war/revolution.

Kinda like how France weakened up the Holy Roman Empire for 30+ years before going to war with them, back in the 1600s (Cardinal Richelieu's handiwork).

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:08 | 5529306 TrumpXVI
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I can’t excuse the violence or the criminal behavior of the recent crop of “martyred” criminal defendants.  But I do get one point.  That we live in a country where the highest law enforcement officer has publicly declared that certain very wealthy and powerful individuals are above prosecution for behavior that has produced near calamitous consequences for the whole country, but at the same time, a small-time thug who steals a handful of cheap cigars and shoves a store clerk is likely now on a collision course with events that will result in his death within the hour.

 

There IS something wrong with this picture.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:48 | 5529200 Georgia_Boy
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TPTB are helping to create the culture that influences mentality and ethics, and it is setting a different standard for white and black.  For one, there is way too much glorification of thug culture.  I don't see white music, websites, and other media glorifying crime to the extent that hip hop culture does.  These movie, music etc. studios are controlled by (uncomfortable pause, then he said) the one percent who are fully in a position to change it, it's not like they don't already censor content they don't like.  The rates of violence and illegitimacy didn't used to be what they are back in the bad old days when they didn't make ex drug dealers into music stars, the culture can change again.  Incentives matter.  If the media PTB didn't court amoral people and make stars out of them, people who want to be famous would clean up their act.  Same basic problem as Wall Street, really.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 15:22 | 5529574 AnAnonymous
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I don't see white music, websites, and other media glorifying crime to the extent that hip hop culture does.
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Maybe time to go and see the eye doctor.

Glorification of crime is an 'american' thing.

Negros, who fully joined the 'american' mainstream, are late comers to the party.

They were not involved in the dime novels that were so popular among the 'american' middle class that set the trend of glorifying crime.

Old man Clanton, the James brothers, the Dalton brothers,the Earp family, Butch Cassidy, Billy the Kid, John Welsey Harding, Henry Plummer, Johny "Ringo" Peters, Wild Bill Hickock, William Cody, Pat Garret, George "flat nose" Curry and so many more...
And those were only part of the beginning.

Glorifying crime is 'american'. It is part of the 'american' culture.

The negroes are late to the 'american' party.
It is only lately that they joined the trend of glorifying crime.

Their glorification of crime show they are assimilated to the 'american' culture.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 15:44 | 5529671 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Glorifying crime is 'american'. It is part of the 'american' culture.

Hammered nail on the head pretty much there.

The negroes are late to the 'american' party.
It is only lately that they joined the trend of glorifying crime.

Bodes that sometime futurely they will join along the trend glorifying Wall Street TBTF crimes. Very 'american' fashionable.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 21:12 | 5530741 BigJim
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You two need a weekly show. I'd watch it, religiously!

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:12 | 5529322 Government need...
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Well, cumbaya.  The real world is a little different than the classroom.  If you can't do, teach!  And if you can't teach either, work for .gov.  And if that doesn't suit, then join the FSA.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:42 | 5529184 markpower49
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Coddle them by expelling them to Africa. They are evil.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:42 | 5528953 LasVegasDave
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Dozens or more events like this one every day. 

Most not covered by MSM.

http://www.chimpout.com/forum/showthread.php?415783-Nigger-arrested-for-...

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 21:15 | 5530753 BigJim
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 Dozens or more events like this one every day. 

Most not covered by MSM.

http://www.chimpout.com/forum/showthread.php?415783-Nigger-arrested-for-...

'Nigger' arrested for killing a pizza delivery man? Aren't you the guy who starts foaming at the mouth about racism?

Oh, that's right, only when the racism is anti-Semitism.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:46 | 5528969 City_Of_Champyinz
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Thats not going to happen until the so-called black leaders shut the F up and get out of the way...

 

"There is a class of colored people who make a business
of keeping the troubles, the wrongs and the hardships of
the Negro race before the public.

Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his
grievances because they do not want to lose their jobs.

There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don't
want the patient to get well."

- Booker T. Washington

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:11 | 5529056 janus
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great quote

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 21:18 | 5530766 BigJim
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That Booker T. Washington dude sounds like a rayciss to me.

What??? He's Black???? Oh my God, another self-hating person of colour Uncle Tomming in my presence! *runs squeeking from room*

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:55 | 5529009 oldmanofthesee
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What do you mean? Would you have us believe that 3% of the population, commit 50% of all murders, in this formerly great country? Next, you'll tell us that 3% is young, black, males!

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 15:57 | 5529729 boogerbently
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100% true, but NOT  PC.

The ONLY thing similar in each event recently was a black man resisting arrest.

The 12 year old was an unfortunate victim of the behavior of his race. 

12 year olds have killed people.

He had a realistic looking gun.

Multiple killings on schoolgrounds are in vogue, now.

How dumb would the cop look if the kid shot someone while he was standing there looking at him ?

Despite DECADES of favoritism, blacks are still whining, misbehaving, and underperforming because that gets the desired response from the "white guilt" crowd.

The main problem with having an "honest discussion" is that everything I said is true. But I would be labeled a racist for saying it.

Are (especially urban) blacks profiled, probably.

Do they deserve to be, probably.

Are cops given too much leeway and credibility in their dealings with the public, probably.

Blacks will stop being stereotyped when they stop behaviong like the stereotype.

What they are asking for, now, is for us to IGNORE the FACT that they do behave like a group that requires stereotyping.

Too many ZH'ers are projecting their disdain of the "police state" on THIS movement.

Your support is misplaced. 

 

 

 

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:06 | 5529038 noben
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As long as the unwashed masses are given free bread and this kind of circus, chances are that they'll fall for these contrived distractions.

That way, the masses won't be looking in the direction of the true culprits: TPTB, i.e. Banksters & Friends.

Diversions, Distractions, Division and Destruction. Seems to work just fine in USSA and the EU. Not to mention the ME and Africa.

Stay focused, stay thirsty (for justice).

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:26 | 5528878 NoDebt
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"If we can’t or won’t unpack the separate issues in these matters, the country is going to get into a lot more trouble."

I just want to know who this "we" is that he's referring to.  I can talk about it.  Everyone on here can talk about it.  Makes no difference when this is a controlled, media-managed event with a political agenda behind it.  Reality doesn't matter.  They've created their own reality in the media and they'll damned well keep pushing this agenda until the political objectives are achieved.

My advice?  Turn off the damned TV and go live your life.  Everyone's being baited on this one.  Don't take the bait.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:11 | 5529057 jughead
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Roger on the turn off the fucking TV! 

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:47 | 5529449 lasvegaspersona
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TV...seriously ...does anyone here still get their news from the TV??? I am serious. We bitch about the MSM but who does it still get to? My understanding is that there are only a few million viewers fro all but sports and some entertainment. I honestly don't know and have not had a TV for years, since the kids watched Sponge Bob.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:57 | 5529021 mr1963
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Pretty sure a grand jury charged a white cop in SC of murder of a black guy. Let's see, the South got it wrong while the north didn't? Hmmm...

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:00 | 5529270 11b40
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Contrary to what most of the rest of the country thinks, the South overall has dealt with racial issues far better than the rest of the country.  I see more raw racism in the Northeast than anywhere else I go, and we are much more integrated and have better personal relationships.  Southerners, especially small town Southerners, actually KNOW black people, and are more sensitive to the reality of our mutual histories, as our lives have always been more intertwined.  There is a different level of mutual respect, which is why many black families have, and continue migrating back to their Southern roots.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 20:23 | 5530605 Government need...
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This is spot-on with my experience, in both the South (TX, LA, SC) and the northeast (NYC - Harlem, MA).  In Harlem, there was a steady stream of blacks leaving to live near relatives in places like North Carolina.  In the South since the 80s, it's been surprisingly go-along, get-along.  Harlem was an interesting mix of very strident anti-white (folks literally got mad when they saw a 'cracker' walking along 125th St, and they called out 'cracker, cracker, cracker') and good people just focusing on living their lives.  I believe it's the churches playing a more active role in the people's lives that make the difference.  That goes for Harlem, as well.  Folks attend church in that neighborhood a LOT more than most other Manhattan areas.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:33 | 5528817 Headbanger
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Fuck CNN

Kunstler completely fails to realize

THERE'S  LOTS OF MONEY AND POLITICAL POWER GAINED BY EXPLOITING RACIAL ISSUES!

It's the politicos and MSM who've been fanning the flames of racial tensions for their benefit.

DIVIDE AND CONQUER.. SAME AS ALWAYS.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:47 | 5528973 chunga
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that's right

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:49 | 5529222 Harbanger
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It's called Grievance Politics, The Democrats took this to an art form in the US but it's not an American phenomenon.  Made possible by the politically correct victim culture of the whiny West.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 15:09 | 5529529 AnAnonymous
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THERE'S LOTS OF MONEY AND POLITICAL POWER GAINED BY EXPLOITING RACIAL ISSUES!

It's the politicos and MSM who've been fanning the flames of racial tensions for their benefit.

DIVIDE AND CONQUER.. SAME AS ALWAYS.
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Nobody had to encourage the 'american' middle class to adopt racism.

The 'american' middle class built itself out of racism. Racism was a very convenient way to lump a lot of people in one group to rob that group later on.

This is the way 'americans' have built their society.

A lot of money is to be made from exploiting racial issues because the 'american' middle class has been making a lot of money out of racism.

There is no divide and conquer. Only servants to their master, the 'american' middle class.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 15:56 | 5529733 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Opposement to this system is given when middle class 'americans' are tossed out of the bowl, not beforehand. Big lolz when pushing others under the train.

The resent begins when they are in the group of pushed and not the group of pushers. No longer part of the pusher gang, they oppose being left behind and do not like it.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:15 | 5528819 youngman
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If we are going to have a new civil war..who will be fighting for the Blacks this time...I dont think it will be the Northeners...

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:19 | 5528835 LawsofPhysics
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Exactly.  People forget that the newly freed Blacks in the south were in fact Republicans and very independent.  It was the democrats that came up with welfare concept and the concept of "having those niggas voting democrat forever".  I forget which president said this.

know your history folks, it's important.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:31 | 5528889 Dr. Engali
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That was Lyndon B. Johnson.  The exact quote is:

 

"I'll have those niggers voting democrat for the next 200 years". 

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:31 | 5528899 LawsofPhysics
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Thanks doc.  I knew someone would remember. As far as I can tell, the "you can get something for nothing" mentality has infected the average democratic voter.  Of course the average republican is just as stupid, hence the divide and conquer/kiil-off plan seems to be shaping up nicely....

same as it ever was, unfortunately.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:40 | 5528932 hedgeless_horseman
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Republicans, too:

“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”

Abraham Lincoln
(1809-1865) 16th US President

 

Source:

Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858
(The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, pp. 145-146.)

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:40 | 5528946 LawsofPhysics
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HH,

That which cannot be sustained, won't be, period.

One thing we can always have faith in.

My tribe is prepared, how's yours?

LoP

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:43 | 5529189 Urban Roman
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You have a tribe?

Physics? There's a tribe for that?

(and is there an initiation ceremony involving chalk and slate?)

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:06 | 5529298 wendigo
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Lincoln was a traitor and a war criminal. The worship he gets is sickening. 

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:15 | 5529342 Government need...
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He was quite the cynic.  We just lost a lotta lives, and so to make it all seem worthwhile, I'll just use these words for the good folks @ Gettysburg.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:52 | 5528993 Dr. Engali
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How in the hell do people down arrow that? Has their image of "honest Abe"been tranished? Guess what guys, there is no santa Clause and I ate the Easter bunny for dinner over the weekend.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:03 | 5529036 Greenskeeper_Carl
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There are a lot of republicans who come around here now, and they are typically ignorant of history, and still proudly proclaim themselves to be 'the party of Lincoln'. They come here for the articles about how Obama sucks, and the economy has gotten worse under him , but get butt hurt if the conversation shifts towards anything negative about their parties heros, like Lincoln on the past, and Sarah palin or mark levin or hannity today.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:50 | 5529351 Harbanger
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What was HH's point?  To say that Lincoln was a Repub and racist so look, it's not just the Democrats?  That's the same modern relativism that keeps us from seeing anything for what it is.  Lincoln was a statist first and foremost. The civil war  was not about slavery, that was a side note, it was about Federal control.  Theodore Roosevelt was a Republican, and he was also the first Progressive President, so what?  We already know what the establishment is.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:48 | 5529215 crazybob369
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Right??? It amazes me how most people still view him in such reverence. The guy was responsible for more Americans dying in war than the combined deaths in all other wars. Guess it just goes to show how good our educational system is at brainwashing. 

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:52 | 5528996 Calmyourself
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He describes most but not all, each man to be judged by his character.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:02 | 5529283 11b40
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I challenge you on the "independent" part, unless you call subsistence living independent.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:56 | 5529481 Monty Burns
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LBJ.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 15:24 | 5529589 AnAnonymous
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People forget that the newly freed Blacks in the south were in fact Republicans and very independent.
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They were very independent? How? In an 'american' society, independence goes through ownership and the negroes owned little to nothing.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 16:00 | 5529743 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Ah, ah, they were then free to go into debt, which is the best kind of 'american' freedom.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:58 | 5529019 Greenskeeper_Carl
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No, it won't be pretty either. They may be a violent culture, but they are also poor and typically live in the largest cities. If things get completely out of hand, no more food deliveries to these cities and then what? I don't think they would fare very well heading out into less populated areas in search of homes to rob, especially in the south. Those large urban areas in the north? Well, you asked for it, so here you go.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:28 | 5529127 Calmyourself
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uh,uh we will all lie down and die, putz

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:16 | 5529349 TuPhat
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Carl, you must live in the north.  Where I have lived in the south, the blacks live in the country as well as the city.  Many of them remain in the country since before the civil war where they lived and worked on plantations.  When they went north they moved to the big cities to find work just like many whites did.  It's that life of poverty that the welfare system will not let them break out of that causes problems.  We have fewer problems in the south than you do in the north.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:10 | 5529058 jughead
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The UN...duh.  ;-)

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:43 | 5529190 crazybob369
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The Civil War was never about freeing the slaves. As usual, blacks were used as a political tool for politicians to get their rich contribuitors the favors they wanted.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:17 | 5528821 LawsofPhysics
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Bullshit.  By design.  Free will means people will always make stupid decisions (like having babies they cannot provide for) and therefore there will always be "poor" and the "eilite" will always have plenty of cannon fodder.

SAME AS IT EVER WAS...

 

Go ahead junk away, I know that cognitive disonance is a real bitch.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:16 | 5528823 Uncle Sugar
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That George Brown is one lucky bastard!

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:16 | 5528827 Stoploss
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Multiculturalism does not work.

Never has.

Never will.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:19 | 5528841 LawsofPhysics
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Unfotunately the Chinese figured this out before everyone else.

hedge accordingly.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:53 | 5529004 Calmyourself
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Japanese as well, they have incredibly poor leadership and a poisonous culture lately. A return to Bushido would do them a world of good.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:58 | 5529261 rwe2late
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 The conflict (or problem) is falsely portrayed as between "white" and "black" cultures.

The falsely imagined resolution of that falsely portrayed conflict  is to assimilate

"black" culture into the establishment's supposedly superior "white" culture.

 

The ignored real problem is that the predominate so-called "white" culture does not work except to rape and pillage the planet and its inhabitants (including its own citizens).

The choice should not be limited between either the projected and imagined "black" culture of violence and theft, or the equally violent and oppressive "white" establishment culture.

What is needed, however difficult and unlikely, is to formulate and adopt cultural norms which can provide, allow, encourage, and produce an improved sustainable existence and quality of life.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:55 | 5529474 Monty Burns
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"the predominate so-called "white" culture does not work except to rape and pillage the planet and its inhabitants."

If it wasn't for 'WHite culture' you'd be sitting in a mudhut with a bone through your nose.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 15:27 | 5529602 AnAnonymous
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That would mean so many resources still left to be consumed.

Have 'americans' developed the technology to enable perpetual motion already or not yet?

Maybe time to do so.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:33 | 5532201 rwe2late
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Monty,

apparently you (and others) are oblivious to such as

the CIA, Pentagon, DHS, Monsanto, Goldman Sachs, the Fed Reserve, K Street,

invasion of Iraq, the cults of militarism and warrior "christianity",

worship of greed, consumerism, and the fallacy of "American Exceptionalism", etc.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 15:29 | 5529612 AnAnonymous
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The ignored real problem is that the predominate so-called "white" culture does not work except to rape and pillage the planet and its inhabitants (including its own citizens).
_____________________

'Americans' live in fantasy.

Their greatest fear is not that people do not turn to 'americanism', their hatred is that people are becoming 'american'

All those negroes were 'american'.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 17:58 | 5530124 noben
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Multi-culti is very difficult to do on a large scale.  And on a fast pace.

It can work INHO, but slowly and organically, to allow for some degree of natural assimilation and cross-pollination of cultures.  Else you're just asking for trouble, if it's driven top-down, rather than bottom-up. 

And that's exactly what Global Banksters want, to give them more power and control:  Induced Chaos.  And out of Chaos... New Order.  Their Order.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:20 | 5528842 HandyCrapper
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The feds are the problem. The blacks are just useful idiots for the democraps.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:20 | 5528849 WTFUD
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That's weird 'cause i thought it was a generational thingy!

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:22 | 5528854 youngman
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I really cant see the Wallmartians doing a Picketts charge......lol...just a funny visual

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:10 | 5529319 SDShack
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They would if they get the right motivation... something like Black Friday Doors Opening.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:21 | 5528856 bpj
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The American negro perceives a natural and honest reaction to asshole behavior as racism.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:41 | 5529181 arby63
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What are they going to blame it on once Obummer is gone?

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:23 | 5528858 Dr. Engali
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Never let a good crisis go to waste. What better way to complete the destruction of the U.S than to have us shooting each other in the streets?  Before it is over people will be screaming for a police state to settle things down.

 

"If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever."

George Orwell 1984

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:11 | 5529325 SDShack
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It's the sociopath way.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:16 | 5529347 Government need...
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I dont think anyone will be screaming for the police state.  Not after all the shit that the cops have been doling out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlY9C6pzxKc

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:24 | 5528861 xavi1951
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So, am I supposed to dumb down and be like them?  Not going to happen!

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:22 | 5529068 hedgeless_horseman
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It is happening, and there is nothing you can do about it. 

Diversity means mixed-race marriages, which will mean less and less difference in intelligence between the races (what you refer to as "dumbing down").  Just look at how much ground US Blacks have already made on their Kenyan brothers.

Stanford University

Harvard University

 

On a long enough timeline
the variance rate for
IQ between races drops to zero.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:22 | 5529102 Uncle Sugar
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If the Israeli's have the same IQ as American Blacks, how did they come to rule the banks, US etc?

 

Fractional reserve banking and debt based money must have been thought up by some idiot savant in the Tribe.  They're hard to fathom in normal common sense terms.  Like Quantum Theory for money.

 

 

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:30 | 5529131 Calmyourself
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Israel has imported many "Jews" from Africa, its an average try to keep up will ya?

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:06 | 5529304 11b40
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Not that many.....and not very many mixed race marriages either.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:48 | 5529456 Monty Burns
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That's true but they fed Depo Provera to the unwitting Ethiopians and are now trying to offload the remaining ones onto European countries.  The Swedes have already been duped into accepting about 100.  Expect to see a sharp rise in Israeli average IQ over the coming years.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 18:03 | 5530142 noben
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But aren't they also re-exporting them to the EU and USSA?

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:33 | 5529144 Gringo Viejo
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@hedgeless: Excellent point. Thoughtful race-realism.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:19 | 5529360 Government need...
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I appreciate this data.  It's real, and MUST be part of any conversation about race in the world.  Blacks have undisputed physical gifts, including bigger dicks.  Why is everyone so afraid of pointing out they got the short end of the stick on intelligence?

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 15:03 | 5529504 Hulk
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almost no booty block in this case...

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 19:51 | 5530537 algorerhythm
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There's actually no evidence of penis size based on race when you look at doctor measured results. 

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 19:51 | 5530538 algorerhythm
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There's actually no evidence of penis size based on race when you look at doctor measured results. 

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 20:43 | 5530666 Government need...
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And . . . taa-daaa.  Data from U of Ulster, 2012.  Note the Congo cock comes in #1 @ 7.1 magnificent inches.  At the shallow end of the pool, China (4.3 inches) and Korea (3.7 inches) are the lightweights.  

http://www.buzzfeed.com/patricksmith/a-very-important-guide-to-penis-siz...

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:59 | 5529492 Hulk
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Thats cause they have about 8 inches of booty they have to make it through before they hit paydirt....

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 19:52 | 5530543 algorerhythm
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Blacks do not have bigger dicks. Look at the doc measured data out of African countries. There isn't even any evidence of race effecting dick size. Porn is not reality.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:44 | 5529431 Monty Burns
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HH. You'll note that there's one demographic which takes great care not to dilute its own gene pool even though they never miss a chance to foist dilution on the rest of us. They even have laws for it back in the 'home' country.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 15:34 | 5529628 AnAnonymous
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Out of unfathomable intelligence, have 'americans' put out a plan to get humanity out the situation 'americans' put it? A plan that does not include pointing fingers at people who were not involved in the process?

An 'american' society is all about consumption. 'Americans' have put their unfathomable intelligence to develop means to consume larger and faster in a finite world.

The 'american' miracle was enabled by the existence of all the less intelligent people.

Without them, 'americans' are at a loss.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 15:43 | 5529652 hedgeless_horseman
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If another nation ever gets too advanced, we can always bomb them back into the stone age, lull them into submission with entitlements, or bribe their leadership with arms, drugs, and sex.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:28 | 5528867 BeetleBailey
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FUCK the blacks in America.

I use this argument/stopper for every damned black person that spouts anything close to racism. According to the US Census, as of 1980, the population of people in the US identifying themselves as "African American" in the Census was around 13%. As of 2010 - 30 years later, the Census was completed again.The population of people in the US identifying themselves as "African American" in the 2010 Census was around 13%. These two facts are easily researched and irrefutable.

13%

Why the static number? It seems "African Americans" are everywhere, being OVER-represented on TV, in magazines, etc. Again, this is easily researched. African American women ABORT 2 out of every 3 newborns. see: blackgenocide.org ..and numerous other web sites for this approximate statistic. African Americans always seem to want "respect" from everyone else, and cry racism at the drop of a hat. (See Jessie "Mister Opportunist" Jackson and Al  "Tawana Brawley, Tax Owing Lying CockKnocker" Sharpton). However, ANY discussion of "racism" must start and END with this - based on the above statistics;

If a race cannot RESPECT ITSELF, AND WILLINGLY ABORTS 2 OUT OF EVERY 3 BABIES BORN TO IT, THEN THEY DESERVE LITTLE RESPECT NOR OVER-EXPOSURE.

Lastly, FUCK the weak-assed argument of "who would care for these babies?"

The whole black race in the US is fucked up. Rudderless. Self-crippled by their generational slavery sham, and self-enslaving to the gubbermint.

They are idiots en mass.


Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:31 | 5528893 Four chan
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im pro abortion in your example.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:38 | 5529424 Monty Burns
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Yeah. Without it you'd have three times as many Obama's sons and daughters.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:24 | 5529110 chunga
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ok I have no reason to dispute the 13 percent figure.

what does the 2 percent that is grossly over-represented in gov and msm stand to gain by fanning the race war flames I wonder.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:58 | 5529257 hedgeless_horseman
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...what does the 2 percent that is grossly over-represented in gov and msm stand to gain by fanning the race war flames...

Divide and Rule

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:37 | 5529394 Monty Burns
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I don't believe that the people you refer to are necessarily stoking a race war although it seems that way. Their main strategic objective is to undermine White power and ethnic cohesion. All paths lead that way. Showing blacks in a totally unrealistic favorable light, denigrating White males at every opportunity, favoring blacks via AA which makes them more desirable mates, mass Third World immigration, forced integration, denigrating and marginalizing Christianity etc. etc.

Seriously, everything you see makes sense if you're aware of this agenda.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 16:27 | 5529844 JR
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The Jews worked for 80 years to achieve the U.S. 1965 Immigration Act -- the purpose was to deliberately counteract America’s white European ethnicity, limiting immigration to a Third World influx.

Why?  Because, say spokesmen for the Jews, only in a culture where there is no strong ethnic majority are the Jews “safe,” , i.e., safe to develop their culture without competition from other cultures by pitting a single-minded collective Jewish force against individual, diverse opposition. The greater the divisions among the culture and other races the more dominant the Jewish culture can be.

In the words of Charles Silberman in 1985, “Jews are safe only in a society acceptant of a wide range of attitudes and behaviors, as well as a diversity of religious and ethnic groups.”

In short, the Jews try to whip up divisions and competitions; that’s why the black racism. That’s why they promote the homosexual agenda, and the environmentalists, and particularly the feminists.

It’s demographic warfare:

How has that worked against America’s formerly dominant white European culture? On December 2012 America reached a landmark point; for the first time in its modern history, most of the babies being born here are non-white.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:29 | 5528876 all-priced-in
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< Protests will get bigger and BIGGER causing reform to happen

 < Protests will fizzle out shortly after New Year's day same old same old

 

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:12 | 5529060 N. B. Forrest
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They'll eventually run out of things to loot.  Then they'll go home and watch BET on the new TVs they've stolen. 

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:30 | 5528887 madcows
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Recent polls have shown that even the majority of BLACKS consider blacks to be more racist than whites.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:31 | 5528894 madcows
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I don't think it's a civil war as much as a race and/or religious war.  Blacks want to kill all whites.  Muslims want to kill all christians.  Angry ZH-ers want to kill all jews.  lots of anger out there.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:40 | 5528934 Duc888
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....some of us don't want to kill anyone.  We just want to be left alone.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:54 | 5528997 MayIMommaDogFac...
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....some of us don't want to kill anyone.  We just want to be left alone.

+100

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:53 | 5529003 mumcard
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It's about time to pick a side....right or wrong.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:08 | 5529263 FeralSerf
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The Jooze-Nooze will tell us which side that is. Kunstler is from the the tribe's herder clan and he's just here to help.

"Help who?", I hear you cry!

Hint: it's not a racial or religious issue. Race and religion are the fabricated straw men.

Tribal loyalty and MONEY and POWER trump loyalty to readers, as if anyone ever entertained such a ridiculous idea as loyalty to one's readers.

They lie, they cheat, they steal and they kill.

"If my sons did not want war, there would be none." -- Gutle Schnapper Rothschild (1753–1849)

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:24 | 5529384 Government need...
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Agreed, anyone rolling up to my place with an intent to tyrannize is going to get dead.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:19 | 5529088 mumcard
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The war has been going on for quite a while, but only one side has really been fighting.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 16:45 | 5529914 One of We
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I just want to go fishing.....

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:40 | 5528937 besnook
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i think you have it backwards. whites want to kill all blacks. christians and jews want to kill all muslims and jews are angry at zhers for daring to expose the truth about israel and can only resort to ad hominen attacks in defense of israel.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:57 | 5529016 mumcard
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More whites have been murdered by blacks inside the USA in the past 40 years than were lost in our last 3 "police actions," including Vietnam.    source FBI stats

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:04 | 5529039 besnook
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segregation de jure and de facto means nothing to you, eh? what would you do if you were locked out of the system? you would just go along and be a good shuffling nigger, wouldn't you?

more dumbass white people.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:30 | 5529132 Jethro
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"Locked out of the system"?  Hahahahahahaha!  Blacks receive preferential treatment via federal mandate when it comes to hiring practices for private sector and government jobs.  This means that if a white individual with the relavent education and job experience applies for a job, alongside a black individual that has lesser education and/or job experience, the government will hire the black individual to meet the quota.  Private sector tries to hire black individuals to make sure that they aren't penalized, but often can't find black applicants that meet the minimum requirements for the jobs posted.

True story.  I know somebody in charge of hiring for a local government agency.  They've hired black applicants in the past to fufill the quota, only to fire the black workers later for misrepresenting their education/work experience/abilities or just plain laziness/misuse of government funds/etc.  They've tried for years to sucessfully hire black workers that will do the same amount/type of work as the other workers, but have failed miserably. 

 

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:27 | 5529391 Government need...
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Disagree, nigga.  Whites seek first to insulate themselves from crime.  It just so happens blacks are all-in long this critical commodity.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 16:51 | 5529928 besnook
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more stupid white people. cash me out walmart tramp.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 20:47 | 5530679 Government need...
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I do enjoy shopping at Wal-Mart, and stupid is NOT an accurate descriptor for me.  My apologies for calling you a nigga, gook.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:14 | 5529071 jughead
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I just wanna kill some time

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 16:33 | 5529884 JR
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But in reality the Jews are killing everybody – Palestinians, Ukrainians, and Muslims of every nationality (Syrians. Iraqis, Lebanese…and they want desperately to take on Iran). And maybe Christian Americans.

As you say, "lots of anger out there."

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:31 | 5528896 besnook
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this is a big part of the problem http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/it-won-t-be-easy-reining-in-america-s-choke...

 

Lynch is the president of New York's police union, a man described by his own organization as the most powerful police union chief in the world.

As Newsweek has put it, Lynch represents not just cops, but "what it means to be a cop in America, where guns are legal and restraint is rare."

And to Patrick Lynch, the cellphone video of a black man locked by a white officer in an officially forbidden chokehold, and grunting repeatedly that he couldn't breathe, was essentially unremarkable. As was Eric Garner's death a few minutes later.

"If you're speaking, you can breathe," he told a press conference, praising the grand jury that last week refused to indict one of his members in Garner's death. (A coroner had ruled the death a homicide.)

Parse that statement, and the menace reveals itself.

In the view of New York's police union — and, no doubt, a significant percentage of street-level police officers in this country — if you can suck enough air into your lungs to gasp out that you cannot breathe, then you must be able to breathe, and therefore you're lying, and therefore there is no reason to release the chokehold.

Conversely, of course, if you actually cannot breathe, you wouldn't be able to speak at all, and therefore you'd be unable to communicate that to the policeman choking you, so how is that policeman supposed to realize he should stop?

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what kind of sick leadership is that? that is the usa police force. that is american leadership internationally.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:20 | 5529083 sleigher
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RE: -- "this is a big part of the problem http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/it-won-t-be-easy-reining-in-america-s-choke..."

 

Anyone know Lynchs' address?  Just curious, I wanted to send him flowers.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:34 | 5528910 TheABaum
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What about Dillon Taylor?

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:39 | 5528913 Notsobadwlad
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JMHO, there is nothing morally or ethically wrong with selling individual cigarettes to make a living.

Murderers are murderers whether they wear a badge or not. The problem with the NY cop murder of a black guy is that there isn't a white person (who is not corrupt and paid off) who would not have convicted the murdering cop and all of the accomplices who pretended not to know that the choke-hold cop intentionally murdered the guy who did nothing ethically or morally wrong (whether against a so called law, or not)... and that is a problem.

However, in Fergusen, the protest was intentionally arranged there because the black community and white people who looked into the facts were at cross-purposes. The black community is very tired of years of abuse and bondage and white people see a kid who was a violent threat, not only to the cop, but the store owner and possibly everyone else, no matter if his momma loved him ... he was a kid on the edge AT THAT TIME. People come back from the edge ... if they are alive to have the opportunity.

If we have a civil war, hopefully black people, white people and cops will all be on the same side against whoever it is that intentionally divide us and manipulate us into war and prejudice.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:40 | 5528938 LawsofPhysics
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I suggest you ask the Chinese and Tiawanese about "kids on the edge" and how they discipline such behaviors.

That is were the world is heading.

You're a fucking fool/tool for the oligarchs if you think actions should not have consequences.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:54 | 5529007 Notsobadwlad
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Right ... so the murdering cop in NY should be prosecuted. You agree, I see.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 13:49 | 5529217 MalteseFalcon
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Should the consequences be in proportion to the actions?

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:38 | 5528921 SethDealer
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if blacks want respect then they will need to do something respectable,like work or provide for their families. You have to earn respect, it isnt given

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:51 | 5528977 Notsobadwlad
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The guy in NY WAS trying to work. He was filling a market need for individual cigarettes for people who did not want or could not afford a whole pack. That is entrepreneurship 101.

My guess is that the taxman already got his pound of flesh with the sales of the cartons.

The rules say that you cannot work unless you do it the way that those with the guns say you must work. You cannot be independent. You must work for the man and pay the man's taxes so that he can sit on his fat ass.

Another perfect example of the people with guns not allowing people to work. The so called international community (actually some paid for NGO goons) got laws passed so that artisans miners in the Democratic Republic of the Congo cannot work independently and sell what they mine to whomever they want. The so called "conflict mineral" laws force the miners to only sell to IMF (and NGO) backed puppet governments and corporations.

Well, the NGO/IMF conflict mineral laws have now put about 1/2 the DRC into starvation level poverty because no corporations will buy metals from the DRC because it is just easier not to. The laws make buying from the DRC more trouble than it is worth.

All of those miners wanted to work. They were working, until they were put out of business by the IMF and the NGO goon-squads... oh, and of course our glorious Congress that passed the laws.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 14:12 | 5529330 Monty Burns
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Be fair.  95% of blacks give the rest a bad name.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 16:26 | 5529854 FrankDrakman
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if blacks want respect then they will need to do something respectable,like work or provide for their families. You have to earn respect, it isnt given

True enough, but I have worked with many blacks who are doing something respectable (men and women), and trying to raise their families. I don't believe in stereotypes anymore; I believe (or don't believe in) individuals. I also believe in Sturgeon's Revelation: "90% of everything is crap" along with Frank's Corollary: "Sturgeon's revelation applies to people." There are good and bad white people, good and bad black people, good and bad Christians, Jews, Muslims, etc. I've yet to find a term that refers to people that is always negative.

Well, OK: Obamaphile

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 17:26 | 5530028 Monty Burns
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THis is a common bromide but one of the most inane not to say retarded. Sure you get all characteristics in all races but the ratios vary drastically. Is intelligence equally distributed between blacks and Jews?  Do Japanese commit more crimes on average than blacks?

Stereotypes have formed for a reason.

Mon, 12/08/2014 - 12:38 | 5528929 Jugdish
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My take on it is that the new sassy, gay rap music, that combines homosexual black faggotry with gangsta rap for a fusion of neo-hip hop from artists like Drake aka. "drizzy" has caused the urban black man to become the novo urbanas nigres homo - The new urban gay black faggot that we are now all subjected too thru the air waves and darpa mind control radio waves by our merciful overlords who control the entertainment cults. And all white guys sing and act like justin timberlake with a soft faggoty voice.

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