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Los Angeles Apartments Are On Fire... Literally
A massive downtown Los Angeles fire - engulfing numerous apartment buildings - has blocked the northbound 101 Freeway and looks set to make the usual disastrous traffic in LA even more unbearable today. As The LA Times reports, more than 250 firefighters battled the blaze at an apartment tower under construction in the 900 block of Fremont Avenue. The images are simply stunning...
Luve Feed (via NBC):
Incredible...
Two freeways were closed as firefighters battled a large blaze in downtown Los Angeles early Monday, the Los Angeles Fire Department said.
"It's a large building, about a block long. The whole building is a total loss. The fire did spread into two neighboring buildings," said David Ortiz, a spokesman for the fire department. "The fire was going across the freeway."
Ortiz said there were no reports of injuries or fatalities in the fire, which consumed an apartment building that was still under construction.
He said more than 250 firefighters fought the fire, which was reported after 1:20 a.m. PST, and which was under control by 4:30 a.m. PST.
The fire was under control but not extinguished, and freeways would be opened soon, Ortiz said.
The fire spread to two neighboring buildings, including an office building on North Figueroa Street, where several stories were damaged by fire and water.
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Stunning images...
Portions of 101&110 fwys closed due to large apartment fire; 200+ firefighters on scene http://t.co/cLyMCp7TrQ pic.twitter.com/zEzGloupXt
— KTLA (@KTLA) December 8, 2014
Massive LA Fire Consumes Three Towers, Shuts Down Freeways http://t.co/wLv2pudyOS pic.twitter.com/KKpncroAqv
— Free Beacon (@FreeBeacon) December 8, 2014
The fire in Downtown LA looks really bad! Hope everyone there's alright, there's over 250 firefighters there... - pic.twitter.com/qIFEVAcuFP
— Oliver Sellors (@prophAcid) December 8, 2014
Smoke plume from big LA fire looked like a storm on weather radar from Orange County pic.twitter.com/vk3Wr6Ug5l
— Jon Passantino (@passantino) December 8, 2014
The huge fire in downtown LA last night... Hope everyone's alright out there! pic.twitter.com/3qWyrk0xaq
— Just Becca (@_Becca32) December 8, 2014
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Perhaps - like Blackstone believes - the apartment market is really going up in smoke... and a fire-sale was the best option
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Wood sways, no problem in an earthquake.
Looks like another one of those mostly or "all wood" buildings that have been popular since the up turn in the rental market. Cheap to build now that the housing codes have been gutted...
Hope the neighboring owners figured out they might do a monetary recovery burn and protected themselves.
The 110 and the 101 the busiest interchange in LA. So glad I'm retired today.
Los Angles is burning: Bad Religion: enjoy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxoD9zWY9Rg
"Los Angeles Is Burning"
Somewhere high in the desert near a curtain of a blueSt. Anne's skirts are billowing
But down here in the city of the lime lights
The fans of santa ana are withering
And you can’t deny that living is easy
If you never look behind the scenery
It's showtime for dry climes
And bedlam is dreaming of rain
When the hills of los angeles are burning
Palm trees are candles in the murder wind
So many lives are on the breeze
Even the stars are ill at ease
And los angeles is burning
This is not a test
Of the emergency broadcast system
Where malibu fires and radio towers
Conspire to dance again
And I cannot believe the media Mecca
They're only trying to peddle reality,
Catch it on prime time, story at nine
The whole world is going insane
When the hills of los angeles are burning
Palm trees are candles in the murder wind
So many lives are on the breeze
Even the stars are ill at ease
And los angeles is burning
A placard reads
"the end of days"
Jacaranda boughs are bending in the haze
More a question than a curse
How could hell be any worse?
The flames are stunning
The cameras running
So take warning
down vote a bad religion tune?...wtf?
I know the developer. GH Palmer who happens to be jewish. 526 units were torched most likely by an arsonist. Building is directly across the street from fire station who didn't respond until building was fully engulfed. Still, they would not have had any problem renting those units out. My guess is at the end of the day, there will not be enough insurance to replace what was lost. Usually an errors and omissions glitch which will lead to lawsuits for years to come
Jewish lightning
Not necessarily, a surprising number of arson fires are started by firemen. Now if you have jewish firemen, then you would have the perfect racket... although jews don't tend to be firemen.
I want to apologize for this before I even say it.
It's oven bias isn't it?
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Jewish lightning
It was the plumbers.
electricians.
Dope smoking rockers.
The ghost of Huey Newton returns, "burn, baby, burn!"
The Trammps, Disco Inferno?
What pussies - closing down the freeway just because it's engulfed with flames, just steer straight and STEP on the gas. What's the problem?...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVcAEIsTVsw
doesnt matter, they are not paying anyway
We torched some folks.
Come on baby light my fire
Try to set the world on F.I.R.E.
BURN BABY BURN
Those pictures just look like a friday night out in Fallujah.
Where is my night crawler live feed ZH
I'll betcha the buildings do not collapse at free fall speed in on their own footprint.
... not unless Silverstein is in the area calling for them to "pull it".
No builiding has ever collapsed at free fall speed into its own footprint, including ones that have been wired with miles of detcord and demolished with explosives, including WTC 127 which collapsed due to massive structural failures and all did not collapse at free fall speeds.
You need to take a 5th Grade science class and learn what the difference between free fall time and free fall +10% means to the physics of the situation.
But since you posted that, you are a Truther, and you probably have no STEM education at all. I suspect you cannot perform simple Maths without a calculator.
you have a unique way of asserting your knowledge. i suppose i would be the same way if i didn't know much.
You tell him, Leraconteur. Jet fuel (K1, Kerosine) collapses buildings all the time...like...i'll get back to you.
Everybody know the the largest attack on the US in Modern history was carried out by cavemen 12,000 miles away.
it is NOT the fuel, you mighty collection of DOLTS.
it was the planes cutting through the central structural core of the building.
equivalent to having 4 inches of your shin bones removed and expecting you to stay standing. There wasn't enough core left to HOLD the floors above the impact point.
read about the construction of the towers. I know it will involve words and stuff, something that continues to confuse a great many ZH'ers.
I have, the core was 42 4' concrete encased steel I beams.
Some beams were over 1200 degrees over a week later.
So you beleive that both towers (ignore building 7) fell in their own footprint, with the concrete turning to dust?
That is wonderful new concept that you just "Taught" me.
ALUMINIUM built Aeroplane, cut through, STEEL and CONCRETE.
Awesome. Yes I believe everything you say Sir Yep I do.
/Sarc
Are you stupid or what? Since when have you seen aluminium cut through solid steel beam?? Hollow aluminium wing cut through solid steel!!
Water can cut steel.
Not only are you wrong, but you Intentionaly ignore the collapse of WTC 7.
then why didn't the towers fall over sideways at the cutting point? that was the tell... how neatly they fell into their own footprints.. straight down.
Maths?
You must be a fucking douchebag foreigner.
Fuck off with your physics...riddle me this Batman...why did the 3 people that HEARD precision (demolition style) explosives going off in WT7 DIE mysteriously - within the first year of 9/11?
Look it up....
For openers...
Next...you'll try to convince us that the Pentagon was hit by a expertly Arab flown 757 plane....
"Truther"...you bet your fucking bippy............. fool. Makes anything you spew asinine.
That is the best you can do? I use Maths because I am educated and international.
There are no precision demolitons explosions - all of the proof you guys provide I listened to and watched. I am open minded, but you guys are all wrong.
You cannot perceive reallity correctly, and there is nothing more to be said. You hear one transformer blowing up and to you it sounds like a controlled demo. I have witnessed controlled demos in person, sounds nothing like it. You cannot discern one thing from another.
You know how much stored PE was in the 1&2?
About 500 tonnes of TNT worth.
More than enough to destroy WTC7.
Does not include fire, KE impact from two jets flying at 800kph, and so on.
You guys, all of you, either don't mention or are too ignorant to understand that the construction methods of WTC were unique and made the building susceptible to what happened. Open flooring, no support pillars, sprung between and inner and outer tube with gypsum, not sheet rock or concrete, as the walls of the stairwells. Weaken one clip, one floor lowers on to the next, and the building no longer is stable and collapses.
You also don't understand that metal does not have to melt to deform and lose tensile and compressive strength.
You are too stupid to understand that you are stupid. Thus conversation with you is futile. Later.
"But since you posted that, you are a Truther..."
So, you are opposed to Truth? Why then should reasonable people take you or your opinions seriously?
Keep believing in officials and official stories if you like. Your faith is charming, if a bit misplaced.
The opposite of a truther is a liar.
2,300 architects and engineers . . . . I guess because those people just like to stir shit up because it helps their careers?
http://www.ae911truth.org/
Do you know what Appeal to Authority is?
It's when you cannot make the argument yourself because you are not smart enough, so you invoke an Authority on a subject.
All those Financial authorities get your contempt - why make the exception for engineers who slept through their materials class?
""Truthers'" don't realise that they are using Newspeak on themselves. They, and you, are as far from the Truth as possible.
You lack basic maths knowledge - I have posted to guys like you hundreds of times the basic calculations for the amount of energy in the WTC127, and how much needed to take down 7 - the simple fact is that you are stupid, and you don't realise that you are stupid.
This is Dunning-Kruger effect.
You cannot understand when your thesis has been proven wrong.
I have given up on you guys, you are too dumb to cogitate that you are dumb.
Fire station was 25 feet away and these guys never saw it until it was called in.
Talk about useless.
Do you propose the night watch person watch video display of a camera on the roof rotating in circles around the fire house? Maybe a "fire sniffing" device next to the camera? Or should they just walk or drive through their first response area looking for fire 24/7?
Suppose above is the case. In an area with such high population density, even at 01:00 hours, exactly what makes you suspect a passerby would not call it in prior to the FD noticing an incident?
ZH members are generally against more govt expense and bureaucracy. Do you think more thorough fire detection is free?
Are readers surprised that mathematical chance of fire occuring across the street from a FH is just as high as any location? Fires do occur in fire houses, BTW.
Yeah, how could any fireman see that bitty little glow through the station house windows...
You apparently confuse a residential living room with the control room or "main floor" of the fire "house" in a densely populated area of the second or third most dense city in the USA. "Windows" to view the outside world are virtually non-existent in such structures. I am highly familiar with such structures.
The term "house" used in "firehouse" is a hand down from the horse drawn buggy days when firemen lived 24/7 in huge buildings (in larger cities of the era). The fire house was permanent home. This is of course the pre-union era, when only the lowest class immigrants cared for such hard labor, new arriving Italians and Irish.
There was a poster of a stereotypical aunt-jemima black woman yelling at her black bare foot child running out the door. The caption read, "Johnny put on you shoes, or they'll think you's Irish!"
How about the radiant heat and BTUS coming through the walls from 25 feet away...too much to ask for? If my neighbours house goes up in a torch, I would be out front in seconds and I would notice the sound, the heat, and the smoke.
You ever heard a large fire? Sounds like a jet engine intake. It actually roars, and it is very loud.
did the structure collapse?? would be interesting if we got follow up pics on this..
If you build it, burn it, clean it and build it again....3x growth for the area...
Somebody didn't get paid off properly.
LOL, probably some of our most recent <immigrants> doing jobs americans won't, like cooking hash oil up using butane.
Was this part of the 'Mostly Peaceful' protests?
Bullish.
An apartment tower under construction burning
AKA the speculative real estate developer put.
Heads I win, tails I burn you.
"Jewish Lighting"
Just like the Reichstag fire, am I right?
One economist once said : to get the economy going we must "build and destroy" fast; like digging pot holes and repairing them all the time.
It comes from an old legend of the Odyssey: Penelope kept her suitors on tenterhooks by undoing at night the tapestry she wove during the day; all the time her husband was away living his adventures.
Its in a way the tapestry of economic life.
Maybe Penelope today lives in LA !
Anyway, I'm sure that Hollywood will make a version of Towering Inferno II with Schwarzi and Stallone.
PS : It could be O Selznick's ghost doing a remake of Atlanta burning in "Gone with the wind".
ProPain
Must have been fireproof construction.
Save the Tiger (Jack Lemmon)
After a few more fires over the coming days will the insurance compainies claim it was an act of god?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtknX95emMQ
In Gaza or Baghdad it would rate a "meh..."
Looks like LA just found the space to put the new stadium in for the Raiders....
NFL believes it's 12-24 months away from a return to L.A. ...http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/10/05/nfl-believes-its-12-24-m...
Drills, Drills and more Drills...
What a wonderful coincidence to go with a big bonfire?!!!
Sooo, there'a a firestation across the street, and they never "noticed"?
A journalist might want to look through the latest city council budget cuts, there could be some in respect of said firestation?
Came here to ask if it collapsed into its own footprint, was beaten to it several times. ;-)
Larry Silverstein property?
This is all the fault of GLOBAL WARMING. What we need are new regs from the EPA and new & higher taxes on the "rich"; 'cause that will fix fires like this. Sadly, this type of thinking is way too prevalent in the United States of Detroit.
www.traderzoo.mobi
it's a shame we have to spend taxpayer money fighting these fires, which endanger firefighters and possibly other people and buildings nearby (assuming fires like this are intentionally set, of course).
Time to open the fema camps!
They made the decision to pull it.
Back when South Beach was being redeveloped and the elderly driven out we called it Jewish lightening, I guess those lightening bolts are just bigger out there. Amazing they always hit apartment building and I would guess they housed the elderly and poor.
The building was under construction.
old memories. i laugh every time i see a anything about south miami beach today. my memory of it is as "god's waiting room". every porch of those "boutique" hotels had rows of cheap lawn chairs filled with old, mostly, new york jews waiting for their time. in the latter days, way before the versace future, the place was looking rough and the beach was empty. the old people found ft. lauderdale and century village and south beach was adandoned.
Go long on Stay-Puft.
This will be good for GDP?
Did Silverstien give the order to "pull it" yet?.
Would not surprise me if this is the work of Earth Liberation Front. Burning apartment building is part of their greater campaign to remove human from this planet.
And there goes the Chinese Dream. Would have sold well at a 12 lane freeway ... to the Chinese investor.
Jew lightning for sure.
Broken windows theory replaced by melted windows theory !
Ha! Just posted a broken windows comment and it was just after yours ;-p
Look at all those broken windows! And didn't even have to start a war!
Shhhh...Dont give the govt any ideas. Theyll soon have a 'War on Fire' with a new Fire Czar an' shit.
One good reason to frame in wood near the end of boom cycle -- insurance company put.
Blame it on the welders! It's always the welders!
That's how the Mission Bay fire started in SF in January -- very similar -- a very large stick framed multi-family structure.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/03/11/fire-in-san-franciscos-missi...
If that is/was the one under construction, I drove by it yesterday. I thought about the low-rise construction versus a higher density development. Fire-life safety issues? I think over a certain height they have to provide a roof helio-pad.
shouldnt those buildings collapse in their own footprint at freefall speed like building 7 did?
That was one heck of an inflammable structure. What was it made of - gas-soaked timber? Have any 757/767/777s gone missing?. Is this the fifth Hindenberg moment?
Has anyone said it yet? GDP POSITIVE!
It might pay to start prosecuting cops afterall. Of course we all know how stubborn the idiots in charge of the US are. They'll outlaw portable gas cans and lighters first.
Geez!
If someone would have shown me those distant pics of the city, and I didn't know any better, I would have thought a Tactical Nuke went off. That's one HUGE fire and smoke cloud!
Anyone know where Vinny "the Torch" was this morning?
An American, not US subject.
Seems strange....a fire of THAT magnitude and the steel structure appears to be still together.
Consistent with the entire history of steel structured buildings...only 3 have collapsed due to fire....all on the same day...
11-sep-01
Turn those cameras back on! There's bound to be at least one "unstable" 47 story building within a few blocks radius...
This bullish! Buy stocks!
Just a small sample of what's coming to a theater near you soon!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNnAvTTaJjM
Look boss...it's da plain...da plain truth!
http://understandingtheworldtoday.wordpress.com/
(Not hate...it's just the truth-Denail is not a river in Egypt!)
Krugman's gonna need some Vitaman E and a towel.
There used to be a saying in insurance companies that when a property was an investment problem, sometimes Jewish lightning would strike and burn it up. Then insurance companies would be stuck with the payout. I thought the fire sprinkler systems would be active before the building would be finished.
Thought those were photos of Baghdad.
I'm guessing the construction loan didn't get refinanced.
This is called Lebanese stocktake in Australia..
I used to live in Washington,DC, I remember seeing a sign advertising for a torch insurance company!
Like Ferguson, Mo., re-development tactics ain't what they used to be...
This is VERY CLOSE to the CITY HALL of LOS ANGELES...
Once can see the Real Estate Machinations - perhaps for a new Luxury Condo, or a Green Office Building?
Could it be related to Tomorrow's Special Elections to cover "State Senate District 35", which Overlaps MAXINE WATERS' Turf, to cover Roderick Wright's Resignation?
52% Latino - I guess there will be more Latinos representing the Legislature from this region. Ms. Maxine Waters' time is running out. Mebbe a Hispanic Democrat/Independent will run for Congress next time around.
Great nooz! I gots a river to sells ya... conveniently located in Brooklyn....