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Defeat Is Victory
Submitted by Dmitry Orlov via Club Orlov blog,
On the wall of George Orwell's Ministry of Truth from his novel 1984 there were three slogans:
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
It occurred to me that these apply just a little bit too well to the way the Washington, DC establishment operates.
War certainly is peace: just look at how peaceful Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Syria and the Ukraine have become thanks to their peacemaking efforts. The only departures from absolute peacefulness which might be taking place there have to do with the fact that there are some people still alive there. This should resolve itself on its own, especially in the Ukraine, where the people now face the prospect of surviving a cold winter without heat or electricity.
Freedom is indeed slavery: to enjoy their “freedom,” Americans spend most of their lives working off debt, be it a mortgage, medical debt incurred due to an illness, or student loans. Alternatively, they can also enjoy it by rotting in jail. They also work longer hours with less time off and worse benefits than in any other developed country, and their wages haven't increased in two generations.
And what keeps it all happening is the fact that ignorance is indeed strength; if it wasn't for the Americans' overwhelming, willful ignorance of both their own affairs and the world at large, they would have rebelled by now, and the whole house of cards would have come tumbling down.
But there is a fourth slogan they need to add to the wall of Washington's Ministry of Truth. It is this:
DEFEAT IS VICTORY
The preposterous nature of the first three slogans can be finessed away in various ways. It's awkward to claim that American involvements in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Syria or the Ukraine have produced “peace,” exactly, but various lying officials and assorted national teletubbies still find it possible to claim that they somehow averted worse (totally made-up) dangers like Iraqi/Syrian “weapons of mass destruction.” What they have produced is endless war financed by runaway debt which is leading to economic ruin. But ignorance helps a lot here.
Likewise, it is possible, though a bit awkward, to claim that slavery is freedom—because, you see, once you have discharged your duties as a slave, can go home and read whatever crazy nonsense you want on some blog or other. This is of course silly; you can stuff your head with whatever “knowledge” you like, but if you try acting on it you will quickly discover that you aren't allowed to. “Back in line, slave!” You can also take the opposite tack and claim that freedom is for layabouts while we the productive people have to rush from one scheduled activity to another, and herd our children around in the same manner, avoiding “unstructured time” like a plague, and that this is not at all like slavery. Not at all. Not even close. Nobody tells me what to do! (Looks down at smartphone to see what's next on today's to-do list).
With ignorance, you don't even have to make the case: ignorant people are some of the most knowledgeable people on earth—according to them. I see that all the time in the hundreds of blog comments I delete; ones that start with “Surely you must know that [something I don't know]” or “By now it should be clear to everyone that [something unclear]” are particularly amusing. On some days I find such ignorance almost overpowering, and so ignorance is indeed strength.
But it is very hard to claim that defeat is victory, and herein lies a great challenge for the Washington, DC establishment. When they are victorious, your leaders get to have their way with the world; when they are defeated, the world has its way with them. This is something that is hard to hide: your leaders say what it is they want to do; and then they either succeed at it or fail. When they fail, they still try to call it a success, but if you look at their original statements of purpose, and then the results, and the two don't match at all, then it looks just a bit like a defeat-ish sort of thingy no matter how they writhe and squirm and twist. This is a good thing, because with all the propaganda the Ministry of Truth puts out, it is hard for the average person to ascertain the nature of the “facts on the ground.” But when it comes to victory vs. defeat, you can usually take it straight from the horse's rectum. Yes, the Ministry's public relations consultants can still claim that “we forced the enemy to give us a free deep-tissue massage of our glutei maximi,” but a precocious 8th-grader can still decode that to “We got our asses kicked.”
So, allow me to enumerate some American victories. Or should I say defeats? Your choice; the two are the same.
- Thanks to the trillion or so spent on the war effort, the 1.5 million Iraqi casualties, and the 5,000 dead US soldiers, there is no longer any al Qaeda in Iraq now (just like there was under Saddam Hussein) and the country is free and democratic.
- Thanks to many years of continuous effort which cost well over half a trillion dollars and the lives of 3500 or so coalition soldiers, the Taleban in Afghanistan have been vanquished and the country is now at peace.
- The Syrian regime has been overthrown and Syria is now peaceful and democratic, and not at all a war-torn basket case that has produced over a million refugees, a large part of it ruled by Islamic militants that are too radical even for al Qaeda.
- Overall, the problem of Islamic extremism has been dealt with once for all, and George W. Bush's “Islamofascists” (remember that term?) are but a vague memory. ISIS or ISIL or the Islamic State are something else entirely, plus us bombing them sporadically at great expense has “degraded” them a tiny bit... maybe.
- Thanks to a perfectly legal and very necessary US-managed coup, Ukraine is on its way to being a stable and prosperous member of the EU and NATO, and the freedom-loving Ukrainians are no longer at all dependent on Russian gas, coal and nuclear fuel for being able to merely survive the winter of 2014-15, or on Russian good will to send in humanitarian relief convoys, house and feed the refugees from their civil war, or broker their peace agreements with each other.
- In accordance with our grand geopolitical strategy for eternal world domination, we successfully kicked Russia out of Crimea and are busy building a huge NATO military base there to make sure that Russia never becomes a great world power again but is forced to comply with our every whim.
- Thanks to our relentless diplomatic efforts, Russia is now completely isolated, which is why it can't be constantly signing gigantic trade agreements with countries around the world or championing the cause of non-western nations who don't like being pushed around by the west and have no desire to westernize.
- Our sanctions have really hurt Russia, and not at all the EU which didn't lose a huge export market and is not at all at risk of losing access to Russia's natural gas which it doesn't need anyway. Nor did they provide any sort of a huge protectionist benefit to Russia's domestic producers, or a big new export market to our economic rivals.
- Regime change in Moscow is a white ribbon's throw away, and our expensively nurtured political pets inside Russia are more popular than ever and are feeling all sorts of love from the Russian people. After all, fewer than 90% of Russians respect and support Putin for the great things he has achieved for them, so our stooges like Khodorkovsky or Kasparov should have no problem getting at least 1% in the next presidential elections, sending them straight into the Kremlin.
- Thanks to our relentless political pressure, Putin is now a chastised man, ready to be reasonable and bend to our will, and not at all saying things like “This will never happen!” in an internationally televised annual address to his nation's elected leaders. In any case, nobody listens to his speeches because our national media doesn't need cover them because they are so long and boring.
...and, last but not least...
- America is the world's indispensable nation, world's (second) greatest economic power (but rising fast), and American leadership is respected throughout the world. When President Obama said so in a recent speech he gave in China, the audience did not at all laugh out loud right in his face, roll their eyes, make faces or move their heads side to side slowly while frowning.
How can you avoid recognizing the importance of such things, and the fact that they spell DEFEAT? Easy! Ignorance to the rescue! Ignorance is not just strength—it is the most awesome force in the universe. Consider this: knowledge is always limited and specific, but ignorance is infinite and completely general; knowledge is hard to convey, and travels no faster than the speed of light, but ignorance is instantaneous at all points in the known and unknown universe, including alternate universes and dimensions of whose existence we are entirely ignorant. In short, there is a limit to how much you can know, but there is no limit at all to how much you don't know but think you do!
Here is something that you probably think you know. The American empire is an “empire of chaos.” Yes, it sort of fails somehow to achieve peace, prosperity, democracy, stability, avert humanitarian crises, or stop lots of horrible crimes. But it does achieve chaos. What's more, it achieves a wunnerful new type of chaos just invented, called “controlled chaos.” It's much better than the old kind; sort of like “clean coal”—which you can rub all over yourself, go ahead, try it! Yes, there are naysayers out there that say things like “You reap what you sow, and if you sow chaos, you shall reap chaos.” I guess they just don't like chaos. To each his own. Whatever.
Want more? Consider this. If you live in the US, you probably celebrated Thanksgiving a little while ago, by gorging yourself on turkey and stuffing with cranberry sauce, and maybe some pumpkin pie. You think you know that this holiday is related to the Pilgrims, who first celebrated Thanksgiving at Plymouth, Massachusetts, but I am sure you don't remember the exact year. But I am sure you think that these Pilgrims celebrated Thanksgiving by feasting with the natives. You might even tell your children this story, and think that you are teaching them a bit of history rather than expanding their field of ignorance.
Now, here are some points of fact. The Pilgrims weren't Pilgrims at all, but colonists. They were re-branded as “Pilgrims” in the 19th century. Believe me, nobody ever went on a pilgrimage to Plymouth, Massachusetts! These colonists ended up there because, being incompetent sailors, they missed Boston Harbor by half a day's sail, and ended up in Plymouth Harbor, which is as exposed, shoal and as useless today as it was then. They did not celebrate Thanksgiving; being weird religious zealots, they didn't even celebrate Christmas. Despite fake “evidence” from “social media” of the period, they certainly didn't feast with the locals, who by that time spoke pretty good English and traded with the world. The locals thought these colonists were a bizarre religious cult (which indeed they were), that they were lousy and smelly (they never washed and had no idea about saunas or sweat lodges) and had repulsive personal habits (such as carrying their snot around with them wrapped in a rag). They were also quite hopeless at hunting or fishing, and survived by plundering the locals' kitchen gardens, then starved. To top it off, the “national” holiday was first created by Abraham Lincoln during the height of the Civil War, which (this you must surely know!) was much, much later. And he didn't call it “Thanksgiving”; he called it “Day of Atonement” for the horrible crimes Americans were committing against each other at the time.
But that's before the Frozen Turkey Marketing Association had a go at adjusting that story. It was a plan as simple as it is brilliant: they overdose you on Tryptophan, then, next day, while you are still groggy, they send you out into an over-hyped shopping frenzy and, sure enough, you will be rack up some high-interest debt, which it will take you well into the next year to pay off. Plow some of that interest back into turkeys and holiday hype, and you have a national industry—one that drives people into debt buying imported products they don't need (remember, if doesn't say “Made in China” then it's probably fake) until everybody is broke.
With a history that fake, the American Ministry of Truth may yet manage to project it into the future as well. They may produce a level of ignorance so astonishingly high that Americans at large won't know that they have been defeated, thinking that the torrential downpour of the world's rancid slops raining down on their heads is God's rain, and being thankful for it. Unless, that is, enough Americans wake up and start making the word DEFEAT part of the national vocabulary. This is not a exceptional nation, not an indispensable nation, but a defeated one. Defeated by their own hands, mind you, because nobody particularly went out of their way to defeat them. They showed up to get beaten, over and over again, until they got what they came for.
Now, defeat has proven to be a great learning experience to many countries that then went on to be quite successful: Germany (on second try), Japan, Russia after the Cold War... Of course, the first step in that learning process is to admit defeat. But if you don't want to do that, that's OK, because there is always ignorance to give you all the strength you need.
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Algore is that you? ("Up is down" "Cold is hot" etc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba4J6umbbp0
"In 1967 my father, while getting drunk with an even higher ranked CIA (very high) was informed that "we" had taken over control of the U.S. without ever firing a shot and were the envy of Russia and China. That is what you call power. " "this incident occurred in the Instanbul airport".......I laughed when he relayed this to me. Now I understand.
Go on....
Debt is money. Though debt and money are two things nobody can seem to hold in their minds at the same time and make any connection between.
http://y2u.be/tOW5eljyjms
We hang the petty thieves and
appoint the great ones to public
office. -- Aesop
Democracy is Tyranny.
During one of my more demented moments, I decided to watch J. Pyatt, US Ambassador to the Ukraine and listen to his Dec. 8th 2014 speech on the Ukrainian situation post US coup. Amongst the mind numbing propaganda/drivel that passes for US analysis, I found the following gem:
I'M A MEMBER OF THE ATLANTIC COUNCIL. MR. AMBASSADOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING HERE TODAY. AND PRESENTING TO THE VERY ENLIGHTENING TALK THAT YOU DID. I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW ON A QUESTION FROM MY COLLEAGUE HERE PREVIOUSLY. ABOUT ENERGY AND CRIMEA. WHAT IS OUR POSITION -- WHAT'S THE POSITION OF THE UNITED STATES RELATIVE TO CRIMEA AND THE REARE RASSERTION OF UKRAINIAN SOVEREIGNTY OVER CRIMEA? IT'S CONFUSING WHEN WE HEAR FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT TO THE EFFECT THAT ONE WAY FOR PUTIN TO HAVE THE SANCTIONS RELEASED IS TO IMPLEMENT THE MINSK AGREEMENTS BUT THERE IS NO MENTION OF CRIMEA. DOES THAT MEAN IF THE MINSK AGREEMENTS ARE IMPLEMENTED COMPLETELY THE SANCTIONS WOULD BE REHOVED AND CRIMEA WOULD BE ALLOWED TO REMAIN RUSSIAN OR IS THERE ANOTHER SET OF REQUIREMENTS THAT AREN'T BEING ARTICULATED THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF? THIS IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT NOT JUST IN THE LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS UKRAINIAN TERRITORY AND NEEDS TO HAVE SOVEREIGNTY REASSERTED BUT CRIMEAN TERRITORIAL WATERS CONTAIN HUGE AMOUNTS OF HYDRO CARBONS. HUGE AMOUNTS ON THE ORDER OF THOSE IN THE CASPIAN SEA. THEY REPRESENT ENERGY INDEPENDENCE, NOT JUST FOR UKRAINE BUT REALLY FOR ALL OF EUROPE. IF SOVEREIGNTY IS REASSERTED OVER THOSE TERRITORIAL WATERS. IF NOT, THEN THAT JUST FURTHER ENHANCES THE POSITION AS AN ENERGY SUPPLIER. >>
So, the USSA coup in the Ukraine was not necessarily to bring democracy, but also to capture the Crimean Territorial waters which contain huge amounts of hydrocarbons, huge amounts on the order of those in the Caspian Sea. They represent energy independence not only for the Ukraine for really for all of Europe.
WWW 3 is on.
http://www.c-span.org/video/?323121-1/discussion-ukraine
default is solvency
I have always visualized central banks engaged in currency wars to be like massive spaceships floating in orbit, bombarding their own countries in an effort to "defeat" foreign nations. The broken window fallacy writ large.
"Government isn't the solution. Government is the problem." Ronald Reagan.
Dr. Ben Carson 2016
How about these...
"Misery Is Bliss"
"Sin Is Virtue"
"Debauchery Is Pious"
Or Gordon Gekko's classic, "Greed Is Good".
God have mercy on the wretched innocent in this country... and damn the conscious corrupters to eternal hell.
Tyler, OT but another banker has died - impaled on railings!
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/wealthy-banker-impaled-spikes-following-60ft-fa...
JPM had a life insurance policy on the guy.
This is the sort of thing that makes one think maybe ignorance really is bliss. Knowing too much can be VERY bad for one's health.
Defenestration. It isn't getting thrown out of the window that kills you, it's the landing, or, in this case, the impaling. Nice touch.
Is that a quote from the movie?
I don't think so.
Tell that to John Kennedy
I'll see you anecdote and raise you one:
I recently worked with an older woman in an IT capacity. She was talking about her son, a career Air Force Officer. Unsoliticited she told me that he was a 'bag man'. She said that he received a phone call on 9/9/01 and was told not to get on a commercial aircraft for the next 'few days'.
She said that made her think 9/11 was BS. Boy did she open a can of worms right then!
Anecdotes can be interesting. Especially when they jibe with something you already know, such as yours above.
Don't be a CONSPIRACY THEORIST! Just lucky coincidence - cohencidence - just like Lucky Larry Silverstein.
http://irishsavant.blogspot.ie/2011/11/lucky-larry-luckiest-man-alive.ht...
Would you believe it, a BBC made film, UK home of George Orwell -
"This video is not available in your country.""Algore is that you?"
lol...certainly reads like someone with a myopic agenda doesn't it?...Iraq, Afghanistan and Ukraine.
Not NSA, IRS, amnesty, Fast & Furious, Benghazi-ISIS, middle class destruction and ObamaCare.
'Murika.....Fuck Yeah!!!
Add a 5th slogan: Lies masquerade as truth in a fascist, police state
President Obama Praises "Patriotic" Torturers, Says USA "Greatest Force For Human Dignity The World Has Ever Seen"Has there been a bigger liar and hypocrite than the Nobel Prize Winner? How many women and children have you droned today?
Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has published an article demonstrating that the US government and President Barack Obama knowingly lied when they claimed that the Syrian government had carried out a sarin gas attack on insurgent-held areas last August.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/12/10/pers-d10.html
“If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America. They don’t care for human beings,” Mandela said.
Yes JO when i watched that POS Obama look out from Mandela's cell on Robben Island i wanted to bash his skinny fucking neck against the bars. What a +AAA classless CUNT.
The Irish female politician who stood up and castigated Obama and his moossus in Parliament to the shame of the other ArseFucks at least was a highlight in an ocean of MSM love ins.
Can I get a Nobel Peace Prize!
boom sssss...
The thing ain't called the pathological liar in chief fudgepacker for no reason.-
Left out loss is profit
For the banks, not for you. For you, loss is loss.
Unemployed is Working.
Dumpster diving is fine dining.
Hope and Change is just more of the same.
Debt is money.
Ignorance is Intelligence
[BigbroBook]
Torture is Compassion
As a member of the Inner Party I disagree, the revolutionary struggle the United States of America faces is a nightmarish conflict against those who oppose our freedom to imprision, iincluding nonviolent offenders arraigned on felony Federal charges for marijuana. It's the American way that ensures these vile drug traffickers are imprisoned to preserve our exceptional nation!
Dead Banker #37? London ‘banker’ impaled after falling from penthouse
Conspiracy Fact: UN reports confirm Israel aiding ‘rebels’, Al-Qaeda groups fighting in Syria
Vlad the Impaler, Vampirius, is stalking London, drinking the blood of bankers and 18 year old girls (anybody want sloppy seconds?)
Where's the slop in a corpse drained of body fluids?
More surrealism-
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/nikkei-tumbles-1-week-low-023052134.html
Because, you know, as the Greeks go so go the Japanese.
So endless war is like Thanksgiving?
work is freedom
Watching Craig Shoemaker: Daditude - cable show.
Fucking hilarious.Comedic relief. Enjoy!
http://www.hulu.com/watch/554998
1945 since we had a concrete victory, with Patton extinguished, Eisenhower ignored, Kennedy assassinated, the currency unhinged from precious metals, the banker's bank (Federal Reserve) backstopping the Banks, and the Banks and the M.I.C. in charge of governments and markets. MSM doing yeoman's work to keep the wool over the sheeple's eyes.
Freemasonry is SheepShagging
Rope A Pope
But defeat IS victory. We have sought to lose every military engagement of the last 60 years. Our delicate sensibilities prevents us from doing what is required to win and if we actually start to show signs of winning we immediately retreat or surrender. Winning, as proven by prior wars, requires cruelty and destruction. Indiscriminate killing on par with our opponents if not more so. No, we don't want to win, we just want to have a chance to demonstrate our moral superiority again. We have had no war in that period that wasn't interrupted by accusations and investigations of immoral actions. No investigations of beheadings or murderous actions by our opposition (they were justified by our immoral acts of course. Many Americans have already been convinced of our moral failures as defining us beyond all other deeds.
In any war, the goal is not to kill all of your enemy, it is to induce them to lose faith in their cause, in their government, in their countrymen so as to surrender. This is what we are now doing, all while behaving like WE are acting in a morally superior way. Our redemption. Those that are, are wrong. They have bought the self hatred crap that progressives have been feeding us for eighty years, and are too blind to see it and too proud to admit it.
Wow. Usually Orlov is ok. But his rant about Thanksgiving is way off the mark. True, Lincoln manipulated the holiday, but even George Washington proclaimed a day of thanksgiving....
Take it easy Orlov, some of your points are valid, but take off those rose colored Russky glasses, Putin is no day at the beach himself and life in Russia is hard and brutish unless you are connected
Dude, have you ever been to Russia? Life is really not that bad. Russia is like Minnesota, that goes on forever. Everyone lives in the projects, and the stairwells all smell like urine and are covered with graffitti, but there is no racial or class tension. Food is subsidized, at least the basics, so no-one worries about starving. Medical care is free, and is actually a cut (no pun intended) above the General Hospital emergency room in the US. Everyone gets a garden plot, even in the cities. Where are people allowed that in the US? Education is free if you qualify for university. No-one has student debt.
Russians can buy vodka from vending machines. Tell me that is not a civilized innovation. People are not super friendly, but they make up fopr it by being laid-back. Mass transit can get packed tight sometimes, but it's cheap.
No, I don't think "hard and brutish" really hits the mark. The crazy thing about communism is, it actually did affect the culture in some positive ways. In the springtime, everyone gets together and cleans the streets as a community. I found that to be rather impressive. International Women's day is a real holiday. try getting that one passed in the US. Russian women are all hot. No, really. It's true.
Traffic laws are lax to non-existent. Building permits? Well, ah, who cares? Taxes? Maybe you pay some, maybe you don't. In many, many ways daily life is more free in Russia than in the US. Hunting licenses? Fishing licenses? Driver's licenses? They might be on the books, but no-one's watching. if you like the out of doors, if you like brisk, clear winter weather and snow, and lots of space without a lot of people, Russia is a really, really nice place, quite civilized and decent. Plus, people have a sense of humor, something Americans have lost, and they all like to play the guitar and sing 'round the campfire.
I want vodka in vending machines, but Minnesota is too cold.
You ain't justa sh*ttin..... brrrrrrrr
McCormick No.9: It sounds like a great place for YOU to set up your retirement digs. Instead of trying to think of ways to improve some of the shortcomings this country (USA) suffers from such as the breakdown of the family you tout and praise just how wonderful and misunderstood living in Russia is truly and evidently like. I suggest you get that airline ticket ASAP and live life in grandeur. That may be the beginning to an ever better future for your kind and this country as well. To you and all others that show such dissatisfaction and the grass is always greener attitude toward this country I say Bon Voyage to you all.
PS. So as you can see I have a sense of humor now don't I. It also might be a good start to solving some of the problem(s) we have as a nation.
13% flat income tax.
But they hate us for our freedom!
America? FUCK YEAH!
Word paring on the sign is incorrect -
Weakness is Strength
Ignorance is Knowledge
Contrary to your gleeful, hand-rubbing assertions of American downfall, I am confident that the Great Republic will weather the storm as it always has before and will emerge stronger than ever-- likewse as it always has before. Which is, of course, what you are most afraid of.
Nobody is paddling inner tubes to get into China or Russia and risk life as a fugitive in hopes of a better existence. No websites tout the thousands of eager American girls in search of Russian husbands. Nobody sends their children to Moscow in search of the best available education or smuggles their wealth out of their own country and puts it in a safe Russian or Chinese bank.
The truth is simply that the tide is flowing towards America in a time of severe danger, as it always has. No matter how difficult things may be here at home, everyone else is banging on the doors and crying for entry. This makes me think that things must be really bad in whatever shithole they originally came from.
What about you? If Russia or China is really the hope of the world, do you live there? I don't know the answer to that question but I am perhaps mistakenly assuming that you have washed up on the Golden Shore like all of the others. If not, I apologize for the presumption that you are a faithless carpet-bagging opportunist.
As the global cabal moves towards their endgame, there is only one piece left on the board that has any free will and an opportunity of independent movement. The heartland of America is reawakening and readying itself for the inevitable showdown. It would be nice of the rest of you would join us in this noble endeavor, but you have been too thorougly indoctrinated into the belief that the American people are no different from the gangsters that sit in their ill-gotten seats of power.
In my heart, I know that the people of Russia and China and Europe and everywhere else are also captives of their rulers, yet unfortunately they do not have the same glorious ability we possess of freeing ourselves from the control of these wicked people. We did it before and I know that we can do it again. We have to. There is no other hope left.
"Then call us rebels if you will
We glory in the name
For bending under unjust laws
And swearing faith to an unjust cause
We count as greater shame."
You are mistaken.
The mindset of the current typical American is almost the exact opposite of the early Americans.
Maybe where you live. And why so defeatist? Is this a job that has to be done regardless, or not?
They tell us, sir, that we are weak. Unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when will we be stronger?
This is a reply to a different idiocy of yours
I didn't realize you were aboard the USS Donald Cook when that Russian Jet made twelve (12. Both sides agree on that number) passes over it without concern that it would be brought down by an angry Aegis.
And this is without a doubt the most unenlightened proposition in the history of political conversation
Apparently you know as little about duty as you do about life. If a capable Chief Executive of a country beset by depression segueing into world war, like FDR, comes up against term limits, real or imagined,
It is incumbent upon the incumbent to disregard term limits and think only of the good of the country.
Russia today is beset by scumbags and the douche drippings of the universe and Putin is the only man in Russia who can return that filth from whence it came.
Both Tarabel and Laffabel
Thanks to McDonalds and Dominoes Pizza the Heartland of America is 80 pounds into the morbidly obese risk category. Isn't it remarkable that you would identify with such a group?
From my occasional readings of your opinions I'd say you are more to be found in the Sphincterland of America.
I finally figured out your avatar. Dumb Blonde. And a rebel to boot.
You make the mistake of equating criticism of today's America and admiration for some things Russian and Chinese as an all-or-nothing America = bad, China/Russia = good. Waaaay too simplistic.
And "the heartland of America is reawakening and readying itself for the inevitable showdown" you say? Ever fibre of me being prays that you're right. But I'm not convinced. And the demographic clock is loudly ticking.
we tortured some folks
Victory and defeat are buddies of the same level of honor. It's just you, put in place to make the difference.
Watch the mistery on a delicate but teaching subject. The panty is sliding and you give up further protest.
Defeated you are, as naked in the room. No doubt about shame.
But wait. See how this defeat turns quick into a kind of victory that doesn't lack the real signs of such, deep relief, satisfacted and whatever you can wish to be.
Having passed the victory stunt the defeated we often see thereafter to run in the kitchen to prepare you a coffee, samich and the like the nature of the facts on the ground are urging.
First aid for having played good boy.
Knowing that you hardly will find out that you get trapped with a consolation prize.
The victory scam is the result of men's business to discern what's (not) going on.
History shows that the Pilgrims came to America so that they could have religious freedom. And history shows they stayed and in succeeding years, wave after wave of Christians would come to America and a new nation would then be established and prosper. Your report seems to conflict with the historical results. That's why Americans celebrate Thanksgiving.
In 1620, the Pilgrims had tried communism and abandoned it after only one year as totally unworkable. They found it produced slough, laziness and destroyed incentive. And hunger and starvation. What did they do about it?
“They trashed part of their contract with the London merchants; learned from the local Indians how to produce better crops and harvest more fish; assigned private property rights of land to all members; and, gave them the right to profit from their industry. What happened next?”
Governor Bradford wrote about this institution of Christian capitalism: “This had very good success for it made all hands industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been.”
This caused the Pilgrims to create Thanksgiving to thank God for the excess product caused them, “not to thank the Indians for saving them, but to thank God for giving them a better way.”
American free enterprise system was born. Bradford wrote:
"By this time harvest was come, and instead of famine, now God gave them plentie, and the face of things was changed, to the rejoysing of the harts of many, for which they blessed God. And in the effect of their perticular planting was well seene, for all had, one way and other, pretty well to bring the year aboute, and some of the abler sorte and more industrious had to spare, and sell to others, 50 as any generall wante of famine hath not been amongest them since to this day." Source: William Bradford, History of Plymouth Plantation, 1620-1647
As for the Pilgrim’s experiment in socialism, it should be a lesson we shouldn’t have to repeat.
As for the Pilgrims relationship with the Indians, Duane A. Cline writes in The Pilgrims and Plymouth Colony for teachers:
“The Pilgrims had a deep and sincere friendship for the natives that endured for over fifty years. Nine thousand years of coping with the wilderness had ceased with the arrival of a more advanced culture. Rugged cutting steel blades, farming tools, trim clothing, warm blankets, glass and metal containers and ornaments that no stone or shell work could duplicate-all these were available for trade. The Indians had all the makings of a good trade-plenty of pelts and a surplus of land. Outside their planting fields and villages lay vast tracts of unused countryside. John Josselyn, a non-puritan who visited America for a second time in 1663, reported, ‘Their merchandise are their beads [wampum], which are their better money. Of these there are two sorts: blue beads and white beads. The first is their gold, the last their silver. These they work out of certain shells so cunning… They drill them and string them, and make many curious works with them to adorn the persons of their sagamors and principal men and young women, as belts, girdles, tablets, borders for their women's hair, bracelets, necklaces, and links to hang in their ears.’
“Land transfer was not a simple matter. The colonial laws guarded the rights of the natives. Only through qualified agents could purchases be made. Interpreters must be present, as well as several witnesses for both parties. The Indian owner or his family must be present for the formal signing, for unlike communal tribal lands of the western Indians, much of the land was owned by individual tribesmen. Finally, the sachem must also add his mark if he were in agreement. If all this puzzled the land-rich warrior, he may have been aware of his rights under English law. And when all was said and done, he generally retained his right to hunt and fish on the property. To the twentieth century mind, trade goods seems a small price to pay for a slice of real estate. But values must be interpreted as to time and place, and the Algonquin was certain he had the best of the bargain. In 1675, a full-scale war erupted between the increasing number of colonists and the Indians. Now known as King Phillip's War, after the name of the Massasoit's* son, who was then chief, the clash lasted eleven years and caused great destruction on both sides.
“The Wampanoag were defeated, and peaceful relations between the two groups were forever shattered.
“The peaceful relations between the Pilgrims and Indians had lasted 54 years, during the lifetimes of the Massasoit and the original members of Plymouth Colony.
“The original account of the first Pilgrim Thanksgiving is in a letter from Edward Winslow in Plymouth, dated Dec. 21st, 1621 to George Morton in England. It was printed in Mourt's Relation, London, 1662. Winslow relates the following: ‘We set last spring some twenty acres of Indian corn, and sowed some six acres of barley and peas. According to the manner of the Indians we manured our ground with herrings (alewives) which we have in great abundance and take with great ease at our doors. Our corn did prove well, and God be praised, we had a good increase in Indian corn. Our barley did indifferent good, but our peas not worth the gathering. We feared they were too late sown. They came up very well and blossomed, but the sun parched them in the blossom. Our harvest being gotten in, our Governor sent four men on fowling, that so we might, after a special manner, rejoice together, after we had gathered in the fruits of our labors. They four in one day killed as many fowl as with little help besides, served the Company for almost a week, at which time, amongst our recreations, we exercised our arms, many of the Indians coming amongst us, and amongst the rest their great king the Massasoit, with some ninety men, whom for three days we entertained and feasted. They went out and killed five deer, which they brought in to the Plantation, and bestowed on our Governor, and upon the Captain and others. Although it not always be so plentiful as it was at this time with us, yet by the goodness of God, we are so far from want that we often wish you partakers of our plenty. -- We have found the Indians very faithful in their Covenant of Peace with us; very loving and ready to pleasure us. Some of us have been fifty miles into the country by land with them. -- There is now great peace amongst us; and we, for our parts, walk as peaceably and safely in the woods here as in the highways in England. - I never in my life remember a more seasonable year than we have enjoyed. -- If we have but once kine, horses and sheep, I make no question but men might live as contented here, as in any part of the world. -- The country wanteth only industrious men to employ, for it would grieve your hearts to see so many miles together with goodly rivers uninhabited, and withall to consider those parts of the world wherein you live to be seven greatly burdened with abundance of people."
“For three days the Pilgrims and their Indian guests gorged themselves on venison, roast duck, goose and turkey, clams and other shell-fish, succulent eels, corn bread, hasty pudding, leeks and water-cress and other ‘sallet herbes,’ with wild plums and dried berries as dessert, all washed down with wine made of the wild grape. The affair was more like an out-door barbeque for the entire population…
“The harvest in the fall of 1623 proved to be the best yet. It also promised a new beginning for the Pilgrim colonists, and they never starved again.”
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mosmd/
*Massasoit, born c. 1590, near present Briston R.I.,died 1661, near Bristol, was the Wampanoag Indian chief who throughout his life maintained peaceful relations with English settlers in the area of the Plymouth Colony, Mass. .. When Massasoit became dangerously ill in the winter of 1623, he was nursed back to health by the grateful Pilgrims. The colonial leader, Governor Edward Winslow, was said to have traveled several miles through the snow to deliver nourishing broth to the chief.
Massasoit was able to keep the peace for many decades, but new waves of land-hungry Europeans created tension as the Indians’ native land was steadily taken over by the whites. When he died, goodwill gradually dissolved, culminating in the bloody King Philip’s War (1675), led by Massasoit’s second son. – Encyclopedia Britannica
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/368508/Massasoit
Thank you JR. Knowledge helps cure ignorance. Orlov seems to have written his article with an abundance of ignorance.
Ignorance is Blessing when luck is on your side.
Germany began a national credit program by devising a plan of public works that included flood control, repair of public buildings and private residences, and
construction of new roads, bridges, canals, and port facilities. All these were paid for with money that no longer came from the private international bankers.
The projected cost of these various programs was fixed at one billion units of the national currency. To pay for this, the German government (not the international
bankers) issued bills of exchange, called Labor Treasury Certificates. In this way the National Socialists put millions of people to work, and paid them with Treasury
Certificates.
Under the National Socialists, Germany’s money wasn’t backed by gold (which was owned by the international bankers). It was essentially a receipt for labor and
materials delivered to the government. Hitler said, “For every mark issued, we required the equivalent of a mark’s worth of work done, or goods produced.” The
government paid workers in Certificates. Workers spent those Certificates on other goods and services, thus creating more jobs for more people. In this way the
German people climbed out of the crushing debt imposed on them by the international bankers.
Within two years, the unemployment problem had been solved, and Germany was back on its feet. It had a solid, stable currency, with no debt, and no inflation, at a time when millions of people in the United States and other Western countries (controlled by international bankers) were still out of work. Within five years, Germany went from the poorest nation in Europe to the richest. Germany even managed to restore foreign trade, despite the international bankers’ denial of foreign credit to Germany, and despite the global boycott by Jewish-owned industries. Germany succeeded in this by exchanging equipment and commodities directly with other countries, using a barter system that cut the bankers out of the picture. Germany flourished, since barter eliminates national debt and trade deficits. (Venezuela does the same thing today (2012) when it trades oil for commodities, plus medical help, and so on. Hence the bankers are trying to squeeze Venezuela.) Germany was rescued from English economic theory, which says that all currency must be borrowed against the gold owned by a private and secretive banking cartel — such as the Federal Reserve, or the Central Bank of Europe — rather than issued by the government for the benefit of the people.
Fuck fiat Fuck gold/silver Fuck capitalism/communism Most of all Fuck BANKERS and banking trades
Your an anti-Semitic hater! /sarc
And by the way, the facts you adduce above are the reason Germany had to be destroyed.
Read this, http://www.4thmedia.org/2014/12/terrified-france-warns-russia-of-obama-t...
Debt is Wealth
Mr Orlov can very well move to free, victorious and prosperous Russia and do Putin's propaganda from there, rather than speak freely from the "enslaved and defeated" USA
Hello Mr Orlov:
Here's the best option you have:
http://www.expedia.com/Flights-Search?trip=roundtrip&leg1=from:washingto...
And you may very well remain in the monkey's paradize, "speak freely" while nobody pays attention to your "speech", and pay "freely" as it is the only freedom left to you.
COLD IS WARM!
Is that you Mr. Gore? Or is it Mr. Mann?
$50k per year is rich and $18k per year is middle class.
The chocolate ration is increasing from 30 grams to 20 grams this month.
NCAA Playoffs!
don't worry be happy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU
...but I was getting 30 grams last month. Or was I...??
The next ice age is global warming.
order = chaos
debt = money
gold = barbaric relic
oops
Interesting article but the dood has it all wrong about the pilgrims...they weren't poor sailors who "missed Boston harbor and ended up in Plymouth" Gosh I thought the libtards are re-writing history books badly. They were freedom seekers and they were Christian people...people who valued freedom, thrift, and hard work. Folks who left persecution and wanted to start something new and better. No need to re-write American history to make your libertarian point. This was a nation founded on Christian principles of that there is no debate...regardless of whether lefties or "free thinking, anti-God" want to re-write history. It is what is. You can choose to disagree with the founders philosophy, but lets not re-write history.
His other points are spot on.
This was a nation founded on Christian principles of that there is no debate...regardless of whether lefties or "free thinking, anti-God" want to re-write history.
What "are" christian principles is debatable
What "is exclusive" about christian principles is debatable
What is "the necessity for" christian principles is debatable
Christian rules or any other religion's rules are another, and conflicting, set of rules. Conflicting sets of rules won't work.
If the christians demanded their principles in collecting the states into a union they would have written christianity into the constitution. They did not.
There is a lot of "bad" going on in the world, and the world is more than 30% christian. So-called christian principles "have" to take some blame for the bad in the world.
75% of the people in the USA are christians. The USA has huge problems. 100% of the representatives of the people in the USA are christians (they couldn't get elected if they weren't). It is those people who are charged with fixing the problems (and who have caused the problems). They have such poor memories they insist their simple 10 rules (5 of which have to do with respect for authority and the other five are no-brainers of bad behavior and far from an exhaustive list) be exhibited in our court rooms.
I guess it's time their god called a meeting and dressed down her sales force.
Hey! Hey! USA! Who'd you torture to death today?
Defeat only depends on what side you're on......and slaves are on the wrong side for sure
1945 British National Archives Document Calls For New World Order Now
Fake Russian and NATO Jet Aggression
Russian Bank Hires Two Former Senators
and more......http://newworldorderg20.wordpress.com/
Is allowing (forcing) a reset defeat? We frogs are at boiling temperature, are we not?
I love sarcasm, and irony!
Orwell was wrong about a lot of things: he made the Jews the oppressed, not the oppressors. Emmanuel Goldstein is the hero of 1984, the big proponent of Freedom. Bardèche’s vision of the future is much truer than Orwell’s, and his book was written a year earlier than Orwell’s.
Maurice Bardèche’s Nuremberg or the Promised Land is a revisionist classic. . . . That anyone in 1948 could have foreseen so accurately our modern world is to me astounding. Bardèche recognized that the judicial travesty at Nuremberg was not simply an act of vengeance by victors against the vanquished and that what was on trial there was not just the particular German defendants, nor the German nation, nor even National Socialism, but rather nationalism itself: the idea that a people own the land that they have long lived in and have the right to live in it as they wish and to exclude others from living in it if they so wish. It is nationalism in any form which was condemned at Nuremberg.
With amazing prescience Bardèche foresaw in its condemnation the coming of an international system which is first and foremost economic, not political or governmental. Its purpose is to protect an international economic élite, not ordinary persons, or peoples, or nations. It offers the latter lots of rights but no guarantees that these rights will be respected. Its laws are unclear (unlike those of a prince) and broadly unenforceable, but the system does not attempt to enforce them broadly but only selectively. For selected victims punishments are severe. Victims are selected not so much because they have broken laws but because they have offended the “universal conscience,” the conscience created and fostered in us all by the media (Bardèche’s “radio”). Bardèche clearly foresaw the system which we today call “globalism,” although he nowhere uses that term. He also foresaw at least implicitly many other aspects of our world: Third World immigration, the irrational glorification of democracy, loss of sovereignty, humanitarian wars and interference, hate crimes, affirmative action, racial miscegenation and replacement, etc.: “At the bottom of the sanctuary there sits a Negro god. You have all the rights, except to speak evil of the god.” “And, from one end of the world to the other, in perfectly similar cities . . . there will live under similar laws a bastard population, a race of indefinable and gloomy slaves, without genius, without instinct, without voice. . . But this will be the Promised Land.”
In 1949, one year after the publication of Nuremberg or the Promised Land, another prophetic book was published, George Orwell’s novel Nineteen Eighty-Four. In it Orwell describes a scary future in which there is a single party dictatorship, living conditions are drab, food is scarce, people’s thoughts are openly controlled by Big Brother, their words and actions are monitored through “telescreens” which they cannot turn off, they are given no choice over what they view on these screens, there is only one channel on the “telescreens” and one film (always a war film) in the theatres, in one such film refugees trying to escape are shot to the delight of the audience, some of these refugees are Jewish, “the Enemy of the People” is a Jew, Emmanuel Goldstein, who is condemned for “advocating freedom of speech, freedom of the Press, freedom of assembly, freedom of thought,” people are openly taught to hate him and his followers during “Two Minutes Hate” and “Hate Week,” sex is discouraged through a “Junior Anti-Sex League,” the Inner Party is called the “Inner Party,” thoughtcrime is called “thoughtcrime,” Thought Police are called “Thought Police,” the media propagate obvious, self-contradictory lies such as: “War Is Peace,” “Freedom Is Slavery,” “Ignorance Is Strength,” people are told that democracy is “impossible” (although the Party is said to be its “guardian”), capitalism is viewed as a barbarity that has “vanished.”
The world described in 1984 little resembles that in the Occident today. We live in multi-party democracies. Our mainstream media tell us not only that democracy is possible and a very good thing, but that its triumph everywhere is virtually inevitable, an inevitability which we should make every effort to encourage. Living conditions are generally good, food is abundant. Capitalism is alive and well and is promoted as an economic panacea. Our politicians advocate the same things as does Emmanuel Goldstein. Our media propagate obvious lies such as: “Diversity is our strength,” but they at least avoid flagrant self-contradictions (some kinds of diversity may indeed be a source of strength, although certainly not the radical ethnic diversity that our media promote). Refugees do not flee our societies, but rather risk their lives trying to get into them. We are not taught to hate, but to tolerate. Sex is not generally discouraged, even among the young. With our multi-channel televisions and the internet we are free to see, hear, read, and discuss almost anything, if not everywhere. Freedom reigns. Yet to some that freedom seems, if not illusory, useless. It is useless because people’s thoughts and actions are monitored and controlled not by anything outside themselves but by their own warped consciences, consciences deliberately warped by our mainstream media, consciences closely resembling Bardèche’s “universal conscience.”
Orwell’s and Bardèche’s books have had quite different careers in the Occident. Orwell’s, although formerly banned in the Soviet Union, has been widely read and praised; Bardèche’s is still banned in France and is generally unknown elsewhere. 1984 has served to warn us against the dangers of Communism, and for that deserves acclaim. But one cannot help but wonder if its general acclaim today is not also an index to its irrelevance. We have escaped the dreadful future envisioned by Orwell in 1984. We have not escaped the dreadful future envisioned by Bardèche in 1948.
Bardèche says that his “only ambition, in writing this book, was to be able to read it again without shame in fifteen years.” My ambition, in translating it, was much more grandiose: I hope to hear it read some day without shame on TV by a politician. Bardèche wrote this book for the sake of the German “reprobates,” whom “the radios of all the people of the world, and the presses of all the people of the world, and millions of voices from all the horizons of the world” characterize as “monsters.” I have translated it also for the sake of “reprobates,” those nationalists throughout the Occident whom all our radios and presses and millions of voices likewise characterize as little better than “monsters.”
http://www.lulu.com/shop/maurice-bard%C3%A8che/nuremberg-or-the-promised-land/ebook/product-21666101.html
http://www.lulu.com/shop/maurice-bard%C3%A8che/nuremberg-or-the-promised-land/ebook/product-21214315.html
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/07/maurice-bardeches-vision-of-the-future-part-1/
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/07/maurice-bardeches-vision-of-the-future-part-1/
That "war is peace" applies to all types of "wars" such as the "war on cancer." The typical slogan claims that the war on cancer saves lives. Yet the real truth is that the war on cancer is a near total failure, having enriched the cancer industry and allied cancer charities while showing very little success based on medical interventions - all accomplished by deceiving the public with misleading flawed statements, distortions, and lies about cancer and the purported benefits of medical interventions (read the afterword of this article on the war on cancer: The Cancer Industry Fraud ). The "war" on anything is almost always one big fraud, whether it is actual military war, the war on drugs, or the war on cancer, because huge corporate interests are the leading motive for these "wars" instead of their officially advocated missions.