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Gold Surges To October Highs, Snaps Japanese Linkages

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Gold prices have surged this morning to their highest since October (over $1221) as leveraged hot money greatly rotates its repo-driven way out of risk assets and into Greenspan's alternative currency. However, there is a bigger problem for the biggest pairs trade that no one is discussing - apart from us - the decoupling of the long Nikkei, short gold trade as the repo market folds in on itself from the suck out of $80 billion in collateral by China...

Gold back at its highest since October...

 

and the Gold/Nikkei trade is coming undone very quickly...


See here for details on the Gold/Nikkei trade and its implications...

 

Charts: Bloomberg

 

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Tue, 12/09/2014 - 09:53 | 5532057 KashNCarry
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Still stackin'

"Gold Is Money And Nothing Else" - JP Morgan's Full December 1912 Testimony To Congress http://bit.ly/1vzK5EJ
Tue, 12/09/2014 - 09:58 | 5532085 SoilMyselfRotten
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Gold surged, ho hum. Gold surged in dollars, now THAT"S somethin!

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:02 | 5532095 achmachat
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if you quote, get it right.
    "Money is gold, and nothing else." 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:15 | 5532138 KashNCarry
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If you have half a brain fuckwad click the link and see that its a direct quote from the zerohedge article.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:15 | 5532146 achmachat
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Be my guest. go ahead, click your own link and find the quote as testified by Morgan.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:32 | 5532227 KashNCarry
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Hey Gomer, are you really that stupid? It's the title of the fuckin article, dimwit.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:53 | 5532323 quasimodo
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Neal Kashkari, is that you? Still hiding out in your cabin after fleecing your fellow human beings?

 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 11:04 | 5532372 Manthong
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It’s just a damn shame there is no loss consequence to the perpetual money machine

Well, I guess there are always the lampposts and tree limbs.

When the time comes I just hope we don’t run out of lampposts and tree limbs.

(the guillotine is for aristocracy, the lampposts and tree limbs are for common thieves and rustlers.)

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 11:07 | 5532392 Ironmaan
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The state of the world...battle of the fragile egos.

One fragile ego finds it necessary to attack another over a purported misquote.
Other fragile ego feels diminished by silly and meaningless attack of first.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 14:27 | 5533423 Bunghole
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Hey Gomer, are you really that stupid? It's the title of the fuckin article, dimwit.

 

My kids learned in primary school to read past the headlines.

You might want to retract your baseless insults and namecalling, assmaggot.


Tue, 12/09/2014 - 09:51 | 5532059 ZippyBananaPants
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Anyone on ZeroHedge use GGN as a gold play?

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:16 | 5532143 AvoidingTaxation
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There is an energy component in GGN

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 12:34 | 5532858 samcontrol
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i have dozens of cardboard play but not that one.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 09:51 | 5532061 LawsofPhysics
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Ah yes, paper gold can do whatever it wants.

Make margins 100% and let us see the real "price"...

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:13 | 5532126 Diablo
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Apmex was selling 1oz pamp bars for $100 UNDER spot this past weekend. What does that tell you about your "real" price?

 

 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:23 | 5532176 negative rates
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It has a heart of tungstun?

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:30 | 5532181 Bay of Pigs
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LOL...yeah sure they were. In 15 plus years following PM's, Ive never seen that once.

Fuck you troll.

Edit: just for the record, Pamp Suisse bars are NOT under spot at APMEX.

http://www.apmex.com/search?q=1%20oz%20Gold%20Bar%20-%20Pamp%20Suisse%20...

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:45 | 5532278 Diablo
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once AGAIN you prove how stupid you really are. Take a look here; http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-oz-Pamp-Suisse-Gold-Bar-New-Design-In-Assay-SK...

Thats $1.50 over spot. Combine that with the 10% off coupon paypal had and you couldve gotten one for $100 UNDER spot. i'll be sure to think of you when mine arrives and i go to the gold store to flip it for a quick profit. 

LOL

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:54 | 5532315 Bay of Pigs
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So you throw out BS numbers and then come back with some Paypal coupon shit instead of telling the truth about actual prices?

A typical misleading comment from you.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 14:36 | 5533477 Diablo
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Nice strawman there, typical of sumpletons such as yourself.

 

 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 11:07 | 5532387 fuu
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When did APMEX become Ebay?

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 14:34 | 5533464 Diablo
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Apmex has been selling on ebay for years. 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 12:11 | 5532707 GubbermintWorker
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Hey dipshit, did you see they sold out in under a day?

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 14:34 | 5533458 Diablo
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Actually they didnt sell out, they had it gong for 3 days and sold over 5000 of them. It was still valid up until yesterday. Sounds like youre a little bitter that you missed out on it. Dont worry youll have plenty of opportunities to buy it lower.

 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 12:17 | 5532741 Dr. Gonzo
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I did this actually and did buy it for $100 below spot. Ebay has to pay the $100 sales promotion coupon though (morons) and they don't give those coupons to many people but they do say (FOR ANY ITEM). I posted the link on Z.H. Saturday when I saw APMEX was running a promotion on Ebay for Pamp bars at spot. Limit 5. I couldn't believe my luck. I think they sold 4,500 oz of these on Saturday/Sunday.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:24 | 5532184 LawsofPhysics
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It tells me that the past is NOT precedent.  Thanks for helping.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:33 | 5532223 Greenskeeper_Carl
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Bullshit. They are BUYING 1 ounce bars for OVER the spot price right now. If that was the case, they would have been cleaned out in minutes.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:36 | 5532243 Bay of Pigs
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Yes, and I loved your post the other day, dripping with ZH sarcasm.

"Don't we merit better trolls than this? Come on people..."

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 09:53 | 5532067 pan
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Not yet, I need more smackdowns.  Make it last and make it good baby!

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 09:55 | 5532069 Platinum
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Silver's up as well.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:23 | 5532149 sampo
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Anybody in the know, why is it that we need to have the silver price these days given at a 1/10000 dollar accuracy?

 

 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 11:50 | 5532622 Buckaroo Banzai
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Because when you sell 10 million ounces short, you need all five significant digits.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 09:54 | 5532070 Panic Mode
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Oh, the central banks can't let that happen. Press the button, initiate SLV, GLD printing & dumping into the market. Pick up the phone and call COMEX.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 09:56 | 5532076 Apostle of Unknown
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Its not decoupling, the yen and nikkei have dropped today. So the link itself remains much valid.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 11:06 | 5532380 noben
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Besides... Variance analysis of that linkage shows that there's significant difference in short term relationships.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:01 | 5532088 davey
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CME will default. That's the real payday

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:03 | 5532103 Magnum
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As a market observer for many years I believe Gold should be at $1640.  That's the point when sellers come around and start trading in physical bullion for paper dollars.  Under $1640 and mines close as well.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:11 | 5532129 greatbeard
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Damn man, don't often see you say anything positive about gold (not that there's been much positive to say about it). I've seen other analyisis of gold price that seem to make sense to me  and your estimate is certainly in the range, if on the low side.  After the ass kickin' I've had I'd love to see some $1,500+ spot prices.  My retirement cash flow could use a boost.  Back in my days of being in the rat race a $100 here and a $100 there, no big deal.  Now an extra hundred or two a month makes a big difference.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 16:39 | 5534044 dogbreath
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I'm feeling the pinch too.  I haven't had a beer in a bar in years.  I made my own pizza last night with store bought frozen dough.  It was decent.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 12:17 | 5532738 umdesch4
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Interesting you should say that. In 2012, I was unemployed for a bit, and sold some gold at $1660/Oz to make a few bill payments. I felt bad about pulling off of my stack, but not terrible, because I thought that was a reasonable selling price. Now? Not a chance I'd sell at these rip-off prices. What can you even buy for that kind of money now? Property in Detroit? 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 12:46 | 5532916 Magnum
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I hear you.  At $1525 I sold for fiat and took my son to Europe on an epic trip.  Didn't feel it was a bad trade although the Euro was high 140s at the time. If / when spot hits $1600 I'll consider doing it again. There was a long resistance at $1640 range before dumping to $1200.  

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:05 | 5532108 oak
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cny is a different story, but not in us$ index, http://forex.tradingcharts.com/chart/US%20Dollar_Chinese%20Yuan%20Renmin...

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:13 | 5532130 alexmark2013
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Somebody Is Manipulating the Numbers: ‘In The Realm Of Economics A Change Of This Magnitude Is A Collapse’.... Judgment Day… Is inevitable?

http://investmentwatchblog.com/somebody-is-manipulating-the-numbers-in-the-realm-of-economics-a-change-of-this-magnitude-is-a-collapse-judgment-day-is-inevitable/

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:13 | 5532137 Gringo Viejo
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I'm seriously hungover. Anybody seen my pants?

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:22 | 5532170 Hulk
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Unfortunately, you left them on the floor and the dog shit on them .You will have to report to work wearing your FurFest suit... 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 11:59 | 5532644 Squiddly Diddly
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On your head. Is that your nose peeping out the fly?

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:15 | 5532140 Falconsixone
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We snapped some folks.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:21 | 5532167 Creepy A. Cracker
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If it follows recent patterns gold will fall tomorrow the same amount that it rises today plus a fraction of a percent.  Somebody is making a killing front running the huge daily ups and downs.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:40 | 5532261 Debugas
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money is a contract upheld by force

gold is an asset

two different things

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:42 | 5532271 papaswamp
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Anyone notice chain store sales and Redbook this morning? Sort of going the wrong direction for this time of year....

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:45 | 5532272 Diablo
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.

 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:52 | 5532316 FreeShitter
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Gold is money, everything else is the Tribe's curse.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 10:53 | 5532326 l.kimbot
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Interesting development considering this recent great read linked by ZH in the recent week:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-04/inside-look-shocking-role-gold-...

 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 11:22 | 5532472 Alea Iactaest
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Uh, that's the hyperlink in the first paragraph (do a mouse-over and you'll see the link... you don't have to actually click).

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 11:20 | 5532457 robertocarlos
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God damn it! I should have turned my buck-01 CDN dollars into gold when I had the chance. ZH warned me but I didn't listen because I still believe in a deflationary death spiral. Speaking of inflation, I'm tired of chicken but what ccan you do when beef has doubled in price. That's the only good that has me puzzled. 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 12:21 | 5532763 umdesch4
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I take it you haven't tried to buy bacon in Canada recently...I'm all but priced out, cutting back on other groceries so I can still afford some bacon.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 13:05 | 5533005 robertocarlos
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I forgot about bacon. Must be supply demand as nice bacon is 9 dollars for 500 grams on sale or $1.80 a hundred grams for some nice locally made no name brand. I don't buy much bacon lately but I looked at it yesterday. I bought pork tenderloin on sale for $5 a pound instead.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 11:34 | 5532546 Ginsengbull
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As soon as the cat was out of the bag, they changed the game.

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