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Obamacare Architect Gruber Testifies Before "Stupid America" - Live Webcast

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Today at 9:30am Eastern, the two key people behind Obamacare will testify under oath before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. One of them is Marilyn Tavenner, the CMS Administrator and the person who was tasked with managing the implementation of Obamacare: a process that was a complete disaster as those who tried to sign up on the healthcare.gov website in late 2013 will recall (and whose overhaul cost over $2 billion).  On the other hand, Jonathan Gruber has recently gained notoriety after a series of videos with him were leaked, in which he bragged that deception and “the stupidity of the American voter” allowed Obama to ram his pet healthcare program into law.

According to Washington Times, "a tea party group said its members will greet Jonathan Gruber, the man at the center of Obamacare’s troubled public image, with T-shirts reading “I’m with Stupid” when he shows up to defend himself Tuesday before what’s likely to be a hostile congressional panel. Republicans call Mr. Gruber, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, a key architect of the Affordable Care Act, while Democrats are rushing to put distance between them and their erstwhile star after several rounds of caught-on-tape remarks about the “stupidity of the American voter” and the need to game budget rules to pass Obamacare were made public."

In short, grab popcorn.

The hearing can be viewed below.



Broadcast live streaming video on Ustream

And while it is doubtful if Congress will actually try to get constructive answers out of the witnesses and will surely pander to political talking points thus assuing high entertainment - if not educational - value throwing mostly fluff questions, here, courtesy of Breitbart, are 15 questions that Congress should ask the MIT professor:

  1. Gruber's role - The White House and Democrats have argued that Gruber was "just an advisor," "not part of the White House staff," "a non-legislator," and "not part of drafting the law." Gruber has publicly stated the opposite. What was Gruber's role in initially designing and writing Obamacare and then explaining and selling the proposed law to Congress?

  2. Gruber's interaction with Democrats - Democrats have distanced themselves from Gruber claiming they "never met him" or "don't know who he is." What interaction did Gruber have with the president and senior members of the White House and Congress throughout this process? Specifically, did Gruber meet with President Obama in Boston in October last year? (Hat tip to Rich Weinstein)

  3. Gruber's White House meeting with Obama - Gruber described a meeting with the president at the White House, stating, "Now, the problem is, it’s a political nightmare… and people say, 'No, you can’t tax my benefits.' So what we did a lot in that room was talk about, well, how could we make this work? And Obama was like, 'Well, you know' — I mean, he is really a realistic guy. He is like, 'Look, I can’t just do this.' He said: 'It is just not going to happen politically. The bill will not pass. How do we manage to get there through phases and other things?' And we talked about it. And he was just very interested in that topic." What specific solutions did Gruber discuss with the president in response to his comments and concerns in order to get the bill passed?

  4. Sebelius' reliance on Gruber - Former HHS Secretary Sebelius has recently claimed she never personally worked with Gruber. On December 3, 2009, Secretary Sebelius issued a press release with a "New Facts Sheet." In this one page document, Sebelius references Gruber's work three times. Are the statements attributed to Gruber "facts" or "assumptions," and what was his role and interaction with Secretary Sebelius and her staff related to this document?

  5. Obamacare master deception strategy - Explain how deception, lack of transparency, and the "stupidity of the American voter" were critical to Obamacare passage.

  6. Deception players - Who from the Obama Administration, HHS, or Congress did Gruber discuss this deception, lack of transparency, and exploitation of the "stupidity of the American voter" strategy?

  7. Key Obamacare deceptions - Explain each of the specific deceptions included in the law. Some of the more egregious deceptions:

    • You can keep your plan

    • You can keep your doctor

    • The mandate is not a tax

    • Healthy people are not subsidizing sick people

    • Companies will not cancel employer plans, thereby throwing many people onto the exchanges

  8. Gruber and the CBO - Explain his involvement in development of the CBO model in 2007 that was used to score Obamacare, the similarities to his own micro-simulation model, and what information did he provide to CBO that as Senator Baucus said the CBO "otherwise does not have" to score Obamacare?

  9. Gruber's changed assumptions since law passed - Gruber has stated that he created a summary of his key assumptions for his micro-simulation model that he uses to run scenarios. What assumptions have materially changes since he ran his model for evaluating Obamacare in 2009?

  10. Gruber's sole source contract with HHS - On February 25, 2009, HHS announced it “intends to negotiate with Jonathan Gruber, Ph.D. on a sole sources basis for technical assistance in evaluating options for national healthcare reform. The basis for restricting competition is the authority 13.106-1(b) because only one source is reasonably available to satisfy agency requirements.” Why was he the only person that could provide the technical assistance? Was part of the reason that Gruber had worked with Peter Orszag and the CBO to develop the CBO model in 2007?

  11. Why would a state establish an exchange? - Gruber disavowed his comments in the two January 2012 videotape that only states that establish exchange are entitled to receive tax credits. In the video tapes, Gruber explains how tax credits are a significant incentive for states to establish an exchange. If tax credits were not an incentive because all states received tax credits, what incentive was there for a state to establish an exchange?

  12. Any evidence of another state incentive - Gruber had written at least 3 publications prior to January 2012 that state tax credits are for state-established exchanges. In addition, his colleague and the highly respected professor who was a guest at the Obamacare signing ceremony, Timothy Jost, published two papers in 2009 explaining the same exact tax credit incentive as Gruber did in the videos. Is Gruber aware of any publication or video tape of either him or Professor Jost where they provide any other logic or incentive for a state to establish its own exchange?

  13. Gruber and the Supreme Court - Gruber should explain his involvement and conversations related to arguing to the Supreme Court that the mandate was a tax after, as he claimed on a video tape in drafting the law, the mandate was specifically not labeled as a tax.

  14. Why are state exchanges important? - In designing the law, why was it important that states establish exchanges instead of the Federal government running the exchange for all the states?

  15. Subcontracting and other compensation - Media publications have listed approximately $5.9 million in contracts with Federal and state organizations. In additions to these agreements, what other arrangements and how much did he earn from arrangements such as his subcontracting agreement with Wakely Consulting Group? (a senior partner at Wakely Group is a long time colleague of Gruber's and ran the Massachusetts exchange)

There is one critical question Congress should ask Administrator Tavenner:

  1. Why no tax credit calculator for HealthCare.gov? - In order for an exchange website to offer tax credits, it must have a tax credit calculator that allows individuals to view the actual cost of their coverage after tax credits have been applied to their premiums. Official documents show that while HHS moved quickly after the ACA’s enactment to help state governments make tax credits available through state-based exchanges, for nearly two years, it developed its HealthCare.gov website without any effort to offer tax credits on the federal exchange. If the Obama administration and HHS believed the law provides tax credits for all exchanges including federally-facilitated exchanges, why did the original contract to build HealthCare.gov not require CGI to build a tax credit calculator?

 

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Tue, 12/09/2014 - 13:17 | 5533015 bankonzhongguo
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The frighting thing is (was) the failing German government of pre-Hitler days was filled with self-righteous over-educated self-appointed elite-humps like Gruber toiling away in their temples, churches, country clubs, faculty lounges and government ministries.

When things turned from bad to worse tolerant middle of the road folks that make the trains run on time had no choice but to install and passively support a more radical government that would otherwise "correct" the incompetent "wrongs" of the prior era. And those kinds of regimes need scapegoats to pin the blame on.

Like it of not, those same mechanics are coming around again.

Sure, the Democrats have the Mossad and Google on their side and I think that is good for a 20 year run. But what happens after that?

On the present course what will Amerika look like in 20 years after the Chinese reject dollars to settle trade accounts? You can only kill and incarcerate so many old white men.

I can tell you with certainty that the Mexicans in California that Obama's controllers are hoping to leverage consider a Democratic Party headquartered far away from the barrio to be no different than the PRI that forced them to flee Mexico in the first place. Just like Soviet run Poland, these social conservatives look to the Church not the State and see through every Plan within a plan.

The hi-jacked Democratic "left" and its impotent "right" brothers in the republican'ts can fiddle with more laws, more complexity, more self serving hi-jinx and build a security framework to keep themselves physically protected from the unwashed "stupid" voters, but when insurance mandates become un-payable and there is still no doctor to see and people have to make the choice between paying for food, utilities and a roof over their kids' head and all the other state imposed levies, people simply can't follow "the law." They can't. That NYPD choke-death-for-loose cigarettes is but one example. It's no different than any human ghetto; Warsaw, Gaza, West Chicago/Livernois Ave - Detroit, Stapleton Road Bristol.

That kind of failing will lead to more distrust, resentment against those that profit when so many suffer and people will not forget their various "Grubers" that got them on their collective knees.

The writers at the Daily Show can giggle all they want while they polish their Emmys and stack their gilt.

Everyone sees through the race baiting, which is why CNN and MSNBC are going down the tubes.

Something else besides the current set of beliefs will emerge.

Maybe more cannabis brownies.

All of this is so completely unnecessary. Yet why does history seem to repeat itself?

 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 13:15 | 5533050 Heavy
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What a clown show, I feel like I'm making things worse just by watching this trash. 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 13:15 | 5533057 Cruel Aid
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Claw back the friggin money he stole and give him fmv for it!!

 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 13:18 | 5533067 MrBoompi
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What could possibly be wrong with forcing people to buy private insurance while doing nothing to control the cost of healthcare itself?  And sure, Maybe Republicans could eventually do away with Obamacare.  But they have no answer for what to do with healthcare other than going back to what wasn't working in the fisrt place.  Any "fix" will almost certainly be a step backwards, into the hands of the healthcare and insurance lobbies. 

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 15:40 | 5533804 Creepy A. Cracker
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Have you ever considered actually looking into the other alternatives that have been presented?  Your false argument of "going back to what wasn't working in the fisrt place" is silly at best.  Try reading up some.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 13:19 | 5533071 Atomizer
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ACA has the same mentality as raising the hamburger flipper to a $15/hr. wage. They become priced out of the market. Allow these parasites to fall on their own sword. No customers, no revenue. Poof, gone!

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 14:00 | 5533261 Otto Zitte
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Smert shpionam

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 14:06 | 5533284 optimator
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Just like his brother, Lester Gruber, on McHales Navy.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 14:34 | 5533471 loveyajimbo
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Gruber is a sewer roach... Cummings is even lower than that.  Why is he still even here, with the IRS charges hanging over him?  Ah... almost forgot, he is a racist corrupt negro... untouchable...

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 14:48 | 5533543 herbivore
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Gruber said all his statements were him "conjecturing". The definition of "conjecture" is "an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information".  So, Gruber was expressing his honest opinions but those honest opinions were based on incomplete information. I would have liked to ask Gruber what new information he has since acquired that caused him to change his opinions, what new information has caused him to now believe that the American people are smart, not stupid, what new information he has recently acquired such that he now believes the opposite of what he formerly believed.

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 15:00 | 5533606 Shitgum Suicide
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People in government are supposed to do right by us not do what THEY think is right for us.
This cocksucker needs to be tied to the back of a truck and the driver go through downtown san fransicko taking those hills with some authority.
When he's done dump him off In the Castro district with a sign jammed up his arse that says, "apology accepted."

Tue, 12/09/2014 - 15:07 | 5533630 GoldenDonuts
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This guy better stay away from his garage.  His nail gun may just leap into his hand and shoot him in the ear a half dozen times.

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