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NIRP In One Picture: €400 Billion In European Government Debt Currently Has Negative Yields

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From Bank of America:

"The chart shows that around €400bn of Eurozone government debt and bills in our bond indices currently have negative yields.... In the topsy-turvy world of negative rates in Europe, it will seem as if credit is becoming the new government debt in places."

This number is only set to grow as Europe discovers it is Japan.

 

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Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:45 | 5536024 Max Damage
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Bankrupt bitchez

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:45 | 5536025 buzzsaw99
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ooh la la! how can i get me some of that action?

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:55 | 5536056 Ghordius
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yes. if you are an european sovereign that is working in a believable way towards balanced budgets... in this crazy currency environment you'll find yourself being paid in order to get in debt

on the other side... you can't get more debt. because you have to balance your bugdet (or credibly going towards this target)

a classic case, as when "the banks lend you an umbrella when it's sunny and want it back when it rains"

in a similar way, if you have one million at a megabank, they ask you for fees, but if you want a million from the bank, they'll give it to you for nearly free (compared to someone that hasn't a million)

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:55 | 5536072 LawsofPhysics
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So, in other words a major FAIL.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 10:01 | 5536090 Ghordius
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because...? I could say that the Eurodollar is a major fail, but all those USDs sloshing around Europe are now nearly a fixture. seriously, where is the FAIL?

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 10:36 | 5536218 LawsofPhysics
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What part of all fiat will go to zero don't you understand?

 

I like the concept of balanced budgets, but such things require that things are properly valued, and that requires true price discovery.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 11:15 | 5536400 Ghordius
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and what part of: "it never happened in history of all fiat going to zero at the same time" did you not understand?

no. the very current and real and existing production of goods that clothe, feed and shelter whole population is a proof that it's not value and price discovery that is utterly critical

it's price calculation. your point is post-production. after value has been produced, and you start to worry about how to keep that value

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 11:27 | 5536456 eishund
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there is no "true price discovery" as long as we are sloshing in fiat!!! 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 15:31 | 5537358 Livermore Legend
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"Where is the FAIL ?"

Every Road now Leads to Economic, Political and Social Upheaval, which will be visited upon the Highest and the Lowest....

....and we can only hope that confluence doesn't lead to War, which given Human Nature is indeed as likely as anything....

=

"Major Fail"....

As to which Currencies will Fail and which will remain, their Values and Utility, that is a another matter altogether....  

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 10:34 | 5536130 StopBeingParanoid
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Soverign bonds yields may be artificially depressed by Draghi's magic talking. Then what? If anyone, big-time investors should call the bluff. But they just don't, so one may wonder what's happening... Let me tell you: central banks are just buying time for banks to clean up their balance books and for governments to implement thosee goddamn reforms that were due since at least a few decades. No further integration is coming if half of the continent is working its ass off and the rest of the continent won't sew the holes in their pockets.

Investors know it and prefer to receive little or no interest rather than another decade-long financial crisis (i.e. Euro periphery falls bringing down the whole continent with it and subsequently the whole world) or a global conflict (with the US having a fake printed recovery, Japan about to implode and China's credit bubble, a war may as well be an inevitable "Reset" button).

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 15:19 | 5537309 Livermore Legend
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"the banks lend you an umbrella when it's sunny and want it back when it rains"

One of My Favorites.....

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:45 | 5536030 junction
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So, now getting to ZIRP will be a major accomplishment.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:47 | 5536042 Bernoulli
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That would be "raising rates"... too dangerous...

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:58 | 5536078 Ghordius
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for the banks, yes. NIRP is something only banks pay. for a checking account at the ECB, in this case

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 11:33 | 5536481 Bunga Bunga
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Not true. There are banks in Europe, which charge negative interesat rates to their customers for deposits.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:46 | 5536031 madcows
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with real inflation rates, all government debt yields a negative rate.

Yeah.  I got a riase.  damnit, my cost of living just exceeded the raise.  Hmmm.  what to cut now.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:56 | 5536075 LawsofPhysics
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...your taxes?

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:46 | 5536039 _ConanTheLibert...
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No worries, Negatve + Negative = POSITIVE

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:54 | 5536059 SpanishGoop
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X

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 12:31 | 5536705 Bunga Bunga
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maybe per U.S. math. In the rest of the world is negative + negative = negative.

 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:48 | 5536047 Bernoulli
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That is precisely what I would call deflation.

But that's just my opinion...

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:54 | 5536060 Smuckers
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We purple NIRP'd some folks....

 

 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:55 | 5536062 Battle Beagle
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Negative Yields, as in the goverment gets paid to spend money.......

 

Europe might as well rollover all the current debt and pile on everything they will need for the next 500 years if the yields are negative. What could possibly go wrong with such flawless central planning  logic?

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:55 | 5536065 LawsofPhysics
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Awesome, when will the bank pay me to take out a billion dollar loan?

"winning"

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 11:11 | 5536383 conscious being
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You need to get a grip on the new equality.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 10:00 | 5536069 q99x2
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I've a priceless sculpture, an original Q99X2 connectable, for 80,000 that I'd be willing to part with if there are any bankers in need of collateral. I've appraised it myself.. Don't pass up the chance of a lifetime before you jump M'Fers.

Look, Goldman Sachs is going to print taxpayer dollars to bail out the Bush family. An economist who correctly predicted the fall in oil price this year has told CNBC that the U.S. government could look to bail out its energy sector.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:58 | 5536076 Moonrajah
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So, is Krugman moonlighting for Europe as well?

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 09:58 | 5536081 Ghordius
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Krugman hates the guts of the EUR, and he hates the eurozone's goal of balanced budgets

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 10:03 | 5536087 all-priced-in
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WHAT?

 

What ever it takes.

 

What difference does it make.

 

What you don't know can't hurt you.

 

What you gonna do when the come for you?

 

 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 10:01 | 5536089 Stained Class
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Are these the bonds we expect Draghi to buy? 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 10:05 | 5536099 Notsobadwlad
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To quote Hillary: "what does it matter?". When the purpose of money creation is political policy, theft and fraud, then one method of funding crooked government and their crooked politicians is as good as the next.

The banks funding the governments can pay governments to take their money of they want to continue to control them.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 10:07 | 5536105 GetZeeGold
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Word is Hillary is about to corner the cattle market.......again.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 10:25 | 5536180 John Law Lives
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Surprisingly candid comments from Bank of America:

Article by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
09 Dec 2014

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/oilprices/11283875/Bank-of-America-se...

excerpt:

Bank of America said quantitative easing in Europe and Japan will cover just 35pc of the global stimulus lost as the Fed pulls back, creating a treacherous hiatus for markets. It warned that the full effect of Fed tapering had yet to be felt. From now on the markets cannot expect to be rescued every time there is a squall. “The threshold for the Fed to return to QE will be high. This is why we believe we are entering a phase in which bad news will be bad news and volatility will likely rise,” it said.

What is clear is that the world has become addicted to central bank stimulus. Bank of America said 56pc of global GDP is currently supported by zero interest rates, and so are 83pc of the free-floating equities on global bourses. Half of all government bonds in the world yield less that 1pc. Roughly 1.4bn people are experiencing negative rates in one form or another.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 13:13 | 5536861 JenkinsLane
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Paging The Vapors....

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