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"Some Market Folks Are Turmoiling..." As 6th Hindenburg Omen Spotted

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A public service message from Kevin Henry:

 

The 6th Hindenburg Omen in 7 days... a confirmed cluster we have not seen in recent history...

 

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Markets Turmoiled-er

Following yesterday afternoon's exuberant USDJPY-driven no volume levitation v-shaped recovery dead-cat-bounce (breathe), it was different today. Wherever one looks there is likely blood on the streets as the scale of moves today (and yesterday) dwarf recent historical moves. It would appear some counterparty risk concerns are being voiced quietly on desks too... as financials fear commodioty derivatives exposure.

 

Here's some context...

 

HYG at 18-month lows.. worst dasy since Nov 2011

 

S&P 500 at one-month lows - back to levels before the Nov payrolls data hit

 

On the week, yesterday's bounce is over...

 

Having tried its best to rally yesterday, energy stocks crashed today...down 6.5% on the week

 

USDJPY was in charge of stocks...

 

As can be seen here - the manipulated volume appeared right on cue once again as UDJPY broke 118.00 and it lifted stocks... along with a VIX slam BUT it failed!!

 

"Most shorted" stocks were whacked lower which makes us a little nervous going into tomorrow as we get another completely rigged squeeze

 

Treasury yields plunged further...

 

Tresasury yields in context...

 

Energy credit markets are in total freefall and stocks catching down...

 

As HY starts to get infected by energy...

 

And financial credit is gettingh nervous as counterparty risk starts to rear its ugly head...

 

The USDollar slid for a 3rd day led by very notable JPY strength...

 

Oil continues to collapse (down over 20% from the initial OPEC leaks that everyone said was priced in) and gold and silver are stable and up from pre-OPEC...

 

Leaving oil at 5 year lows and suffering the biggest slump since Lehman...

 

Charts: Bloomberg

Bonus Chart: Breadth....

 

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Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:06 | 5537853 Cangaroo.TNT
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We turmoiled some markets? 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:13 | 5537884 TheAnalOG
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No.

We have been waking up every morning for the past six years wondering if the world is still there.  Bored of this show, next.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:19 | 5537922 negative rates
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We drew some graphs.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:28 | 5537978 NoDebt
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It occurred to me that when the crash does finally hit, we'll probably be the last people on the planet to believe it's happening.  Everyone will be freaking out, we'll still be sitting here waiting for the Fed to magically re-levitate the market.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:33 | 5537993 Dr. Engali
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See, this is why I like you. I would never have thought that. 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:51 | 5538075 Haus-Targaryen
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Is anyone else having as much fun with this YouTube playlist as I am?  

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:12 | 5538175 max2205
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XLE is trading the way markets should without the Fed in the way..

 

 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:25 | 5538228 Manthong
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Amidst all of this chaos, I predict the outcome is unpredictable.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:46 | 5538315 cnmcdee
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This is a Shemitah Year.  All Shemitah years and the short months following have with 100% accuracy predicted *all* recessions and depression without exception!!

 

This Shemitah year will be no different.  When it started on Septeber 24th, 2014 the markets tanked 2%. This Shemitah year will end on September 13th, 2015.

 

The last two Shemitah years ended to the exact *day* with a 7% market tank and a generally large recession.  They occur every seven years on a Hebrew Calendar.

 

If you like proof that this pattern is real I highly recommend reading Johnathan Cahn's book - 'The Shemitah Year:' available for Kindle download from Amazon.com

 

Do not be in the market it is going to TANK before this Shemitah year completes itself.  Buy physical Gold.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:57 | 5538364 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Stop beating around the bush, has this got something to do with Jews.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 23:02 | 5539187 mjcOH1
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"It occurred to me that when the crash does finally hit, we'll probably be the last people on the planet to believe it's happening."

Send it....

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 23:48 | 5539311 Crisismode
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The last two Shemitah years ended to the exact *day* with a 7% market tank and a generally large recession.  They occur every seven years on a Hebrew Calendar.

Seven Percent doesn't show me shit.

Talk to me about 97 percent drop.

Then you get my attention.

 

 

 

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 03:17 | 5539560 UselessEater
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Apparently they are into the 7 yr x 7 yr cycle and this apparently is the 49th year so we get extra fun on the 7th and the following '50'th year... whatever that means. The criminals are more into this than the sheeple sold the rational markets theory and some dramatic events do seem to line up with this 'calendar'. Since sanity has left everything we know, why not read these shemitah tea leaves? I'm fast wondering -what else is left to read?

(half sarc half wtf)

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 00:43 | 5539405 Doom and Dust
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With so many jews at the helm I guess we'll have to anticipate their possible collective beliefs and motives bat shit crazy as they may seem.

 

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 03:27 | 5539569 A Nanny Moose
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It all sounds like Yiddish to me.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 20:09 | 5538684 sschu
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Not only does the market crash in those years, but these months/years aligned with 911 and Lehman.  I saw some other events that aligned also, but cannot confirm these dates.

sschu

 

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 05:48 | 5539634 Max UK
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So working backwards:

2008 - Lehman

2001 - 9/11

1994 - dunno

1987 - Stock crash

1980 - Gold spike to $850

1973 - oil crisis

1966 - dunno

 

Interesting though.

And as to the 7 yr cycle and the 50th year, something to do with Leviticus and debt jubilees. Connected to land use too; every 7 years, the land is to be rested and is to be left fallow. Old Testament stuff.

 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 20:49 | 5538786 Hulk
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Shemitah years happen every 7 years. After 7 Shemitah's, debts were forgiven. Also, the Shemitah was a work free year !!! When the ancient Jews stopped observing the Shemitahs, this pissed god off, because he had to be thinking what a bunch of dumb fucks there are down there to give up a whole years vacation every 7 years. I believe God must have been a Pro Union God, at least a couple thousand years ago....

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 21:56 | 5538972 Implied Violins
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Killing sprees *are* vacations...to some people.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 21:57 | 5538977 Proofreder
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Lotsa info here ... http://www.prophecynewswatch.com/2014/September24/241.html

whatever trips your trigger ...

sell  Sell  SELL  S E L L  N O W 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 23:37 | 5539287 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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If one is going to follow the seven year heuristic one needs to start with

March 10th 2008 as opposed to September 16th 2008 when Lehman

took a dirt nap. Bear Stearns March 10th @ 11:00am 2008 New York time marks the beginning of the seven year cycle which takes us to Q1

March 10th 2015 @ 11:00am New York time. What is happening over the last couple of weeks is a direct assault on the Russian Federation and President Putin and nothing more. If OPEC thought it was going to cause damage beyond control of Russia they would back off completely

IMHO. Moreover, market participants have been complaining that there is no market movement or enough volatilty to make a buck leaving things flatlined and stagnating. OPEC is merely creating market churn where it can. In this regard they could be attempting to jump start economic movement by playing short and distort

globally. I'm certainly no expert on oil, but OPEC is an expert and this movement is planned and intentional rather than random chaos methinks.

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 00:03 | 5539334 weburke
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why se now? july perhaps?

 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 23:15 | 5539228 MontgomeryScott
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@ cnmcdee,

You refer to the dream interpretation made by Joseph to the Pharoh regarding the dream he had regarding cattle. Seven years of plenty, and seven years of drought. It all goes back to the Commandment to keep the Sabbath 'holy'. plant for six years, and let the field fall fallow for the seventh (to recharge the soil); or face the consequences. Work six days, and take a day off for yourself to 'recharge'.

You (or one of your followers) downvoted me because you considered my post 'unholy'.

Well, I've never heard the 'Shem-itah' (I guess this would be derived directly from Shem, one of Noah's three sons). Perhaps it's like 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off' ('Shem's Day Off' or something). Following the LETTER of the LAW won't fulfill the SPIRIT of it. It's a fucking CURSE (the 'LAW', of course). Men can't fulfill it, no matter how 'holy' they try to be. The whole point of the first coming of the Messiah must have been lost on you (it was to point out that you can't do the things to earn back your life, so He had to give up HIS in our place).

The math doesn't quite work. September 11 2001 and the following week doesn't align with September 2014 in a two-step 'week of sevens'. The world has slowed, and the orbit now takes 365.24 days (as opposed to 360 days). God must have decided to skip a year...

 

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 00:38 | 5539397 Ginsengbull
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Could denial of this financial time sequence hold the origin of the term "anti-shemitic"?

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 02:44 | 5539541 Carpenter1
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Shemitah has nothing to do with Joseph's dream and the 7 years of plenty story in Egypt. Shemitah is just the Jewish term for Sabbaoth. Probably should've done some reading before launching into this tyrade. It's all over the internet, would've taken you less time than this post did.

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 16:49 | 5541504 sschu
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The law and Shemitah was not in place yet, this does not happen until the Exodus and Moses.  

sschu      

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 23:53 | 5539318 Alfred
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Hey, this Jew is on the level about this Shemitah thing...

 

I can't say what gives me a harder boner, the American tanks moving to the front by rail, or the ads for Russian dating sites on Zero Hedge...

 

either way, I guess we're boned.

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 00:31 | 5539389 Ginsengbull
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Those weren't tanks, just apc's.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:31 | 5538237 aVileRat
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Yup.

Remember when all the talking heads, including the POTUS were all cheering on how cheaper oil prices would lead to a consumer rally ? You can find the clips well documented on CNBC.

Turns out the windfall ex-taxes is 380/US citizen. Now I'm not so smart, but given the Gov stats show a 200+ hike in Healthcare per avg US 18-38 yo, a 400/person hike in conD and the 500+ in rent hikes since 2012, what is left for this mythical spending windfall ? And how much is left for a highway fund topup ? Yup, great 'tax break'. I can only hope, and this comes from listening to the council of economic advisors on the circuit, that POTUS does a clean house of the council in 2016 for blowing this. I would rank this policy disaster on par with Larry's work for Clinton on "affordable housing". Which is funny because I thought the Romer's in first term were out of their league, but this top ticks institutionalized incompetence.

One more thing, remember when the talking heads were talking about how homebuilders were going to be the first to move on discretionary income going to be used for new mortgages?

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102254036

Toll Brothers misses 4Q profit forecasts

Texas. What's in Texas. Oil.

 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:41 | 5538298 cnmcdee
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This is nothing!! Wait till we see the double-cross ninja necklace roomba catshark signal..

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 20:20 | 5538724 Sokhmate
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To all their own signal. I'm into porn. I usually look for a vagina pattern.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 21:50 | 5538959 ILLILLILLI
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I'm sure there is a "loose lips" reference that would be completely apropo in this particular circumstance, but it escapes me at the moment...

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 22:04 | 5539005 MontgomeryScott
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Something about 'sinking ships'.

After a supertanker has pulled in to port and left, a dingy just won't fill the berth any more...

Is that a 'vagina print' or a 'snail trail'?

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 22:35 | 5539099 MontgomeryScott
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PHHHHT!

Someone's jealous...

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 23:37 | 5539286 Hulk
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loose lips sink dicks...

Fri, 12/12/2014 - 00:24 | 5543005 Victory_Garden
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"This is nothing!! Wait till we see the double-cross ninja necklace roomba catshark signal.."

And don't ferget the boo-wadda-tanga-shoe-bally-wop signal either!

Actually, when the rothchillian bankster scratches its arse, oil goes down. An itch twixt the cornholio...gold and oil are repriced. Picking a snot in the nose canal...the market crashes at exact times of day, hour, and minute. When the beast farts...another puppet is placed into a place of power as another control mechanism of the whole movie picture show.

One other little tid-bit, please remember these things/banksters have created every ism and ist and political side of the chessboard to pit against each other throughout the history of this changing planet for centuries ONLY so they can profit. They use the money-god to own almost every single two-legged one on the face of earth. Blacks vs whites. Zionutz vs ALL the worlds awakened peoples. The Christ Principle vs the luciferian/satanic evil. Love vs hate. Political comedy vs rationality. It's all to create conflict for those who love to profit from it, while others lose it all, and worse, actually die from the plans behind plans behind plans they never conceived existed. It's is so brilliantly stupid. The dancing carnival clowns of the money-changers, and all those stupid idiotic games around the whole institution of the money god.

All this tad for taddlie bickering between the different sides of the great blue waters has been purposely planed and created to put each side, each country, each lifestyle, each religion, each political view, good vs. evil, against each other into the place of chaos. A easier place for these beast to CONTROL. Were all mankind to realize these simple truths, and stand as ONE to say NO MOAR!, much would change over night. Chaos is created by the ones that call money, god. There are more than enough marbles in the ZH-bowl-a-ramma to Know this. What is stupid, is this force against force in many forms and energies goes on and on and on, day after day after day. Why? Qui bono/Who profits?

A fat few will say, I DO of course. This is a place where the money changers have created a world forum to gather every bit of light they can from all those who share it freely. Why? To profit from. Somewhere in Televiv, the ears and eyes are taunted every second of the 24 hour day. Oy vey! Boys, girls, stop being pawns for the rothschilds that created you to use as the linchpin to trigger the third and last world war. How many of you want to see your selves, all your energies of a lifetime, and all those of your families go all gonzo in a nanosecond and some time later all you remembered was a huge bright flash of light? Barnum would say, there is a sucker born every minute.

Ponder dat please and know, most of the world's people love you when you are not your masters, slave performing your evil deeds world-wide to profit from. Surely, young love prospers, and dreams of futures in your gardens exist in all hearts. Who one among ye thinks they will escape the holocaust that will immediately ensue right after another stupid false flag event, or worse, one that some how is blamed on Iran, Syria, China, or Russia? Everybody knows the evil games you play to profit from, and the lodges of innocents you draw into these evil plans and secretly call them behind their backs, “useless idiots” later in your POLEZ rants. It is all so black and white, like easy to read writing on the wall. Everybody sees this evil, and knows WHO exactly is responsible for it.

Who really wants to go out the door of their homes and kiss the honey goodbye in the morn saying, I am off to conflict and war with everything and everyone out in my world today so some foreign banksters I will never know can laugh and profit from all my hard efforts and energetic expressions (words, deeds, and actions)? And yes dear, oh how badly I want to do this every single day of my life, Sundays too, for the rest of my born dayz. It's all I live for, the MONEY-god!

Oh boy, huh! Just what you were born for, right?

WRONG!

Freedom, and choice. Two of Creations Greatest Gifts. You snooze, you lose. Ignorance becomes laziness and a disease amongst the tribes. Truth, or ignorance? Choose well that which you want to embrace. Your eternal self depends on it.

Dear all good folks on board the good ship ZH, family, please recognize that world-wide there are few of these bankster-things that have run every man jack up against his neighbor so they, NOT YOU, can profit from the negativity and your life long losses. WHEN WILL YOU GET THAT MANKIND? Purdy darn easy to get, considering a simple minded corn-husker from the middle of no-where can grasp this easy to see and hear truth.

There are oddles of answers to this modern worlds a spinning into the drain of cosmic history situations.

Time may, or may not be on the side of humanity, but know well this. What ever comes wicked this way, the world as a whole will stand a better chance at living into more prosperous days as One Mind, and One Soul. Or, in simpler words for the PhD to understand, all the oars are paddling the ship one way, instead of like the present bablonian different directions the ship is going into now. The game is rigged and sails set so no one goes anywhere, forever. Big fat ugly Jaba the Hut sits hedonistically atop his huge pile of stinking smelly golden excrement getting blissed out like Baron Harconin in the blood bath of the emerging youthful energies they suck up every day, while he laughs at the stupid politician puppets that keep the masses stupid. It knows that they all think they have that golden ticket for themselves and their families, but has another plan they do not know about. Trap Door! Think, who wants to live amongst traitors, criminals, and the corrupted bought and paid for leaders in those supposedly safe underground places when the chinga hits the rotating device?

Kinda like lawyer talk, eh!

So, imagine working to expose the beast and its evil, gathering the wagons together in larger and larger circles, and stocking and storing many material things like food food food and more seeds to plant moar food, but most of all, dig in deep to face the coming challenges of a rouge babylon empire spinning out of control, not as planned, and in a time when anything can happen. Ask, when was the last time anyone heard of any politician, or world leader actually doing something that would benefit the people, and not the banksters?

Hummmm...moving into a pristine parlor to ponder, and pray. There are soooooo many great answers and thinkers here to help make great changes, including a world jubilee just for starters. Releasing all the good technologies is also a good start. Curing all disease is also possible. There is so much that a bunch of benevolent banksters/oligarchs can do.

Look here you rascally rothschilds and rockfellers, how about a turn of grace and changing your wicked ways so the whole planet survives into a better one, and not the one you have historically planned? Are you so far gone you have forgotten there are greater forces at work here, than your own evil doings? Your gonna be forgiven for your sinful family lifestyles AFTER stepping up to the world plate and ending ALL this insanity, warmongering, and pitting the game board nations against each other so you can gleefully gloat, slurp, and slobber all over yourselves as they kill each other off, and you profit from it either way. Shirt! Those first two world wars were BS, and you know it. So does everybody else.

One of the mysterious workings of what ever you can call a Higher Power, is that everybody is spiritually maturing faster than you thought. They are ALL becoming moar and moar intuitive. Imagine that! This is making it harder and harder to cover up your crimes and ghastly evil towards the people of this planet. Everybody knows!

There is still time to save the world economy, raise up great peoples in prosperity for all, cure the world environment, and to save your own hides before the millions of bodies come a slamming down your long driveways and into the bunker doors yelling, HANG ALL THE EVIL BANKSTERS AND THIER PUPPETS WORLD-WIDE NOW!!! You do know babylon, the ghetto youth is coming for you, and they ain't taking your jive no moar!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaOuq0dPRvc

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:46 | 5538313 Oldwood
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My business recovery of the last year or so is about 85% due to oil companies. Looks like another downturn coming my way. I hope my insurance and overhead costs will decline on equal pace with my income when the shit hits the fan again....surely they will...

But at least I will have cheap gas...but no place to go.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 21:57 | 5538978 MontgomeryScott
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@ Haus:

"Is anyone else having as much fun with this YouTube playlist as I am? "

You know who the guy in the first video IS, don't you?

I haven't seen me in a while...

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:56 | 5538101 zerozulu
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I will have my suitcase ready when gold swing $100 every day.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 21:37 | 5538912 SuperRay
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Unless your suitcase has a Narnia closet in it to transport you to another dimension, it won't help much.  I kills me when people say they're going to leave the country, as if there's somewhere in the world they can hide.  This monumental collapse of the world economy is going to suck everyone everywhere.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 22:18 | 5539061 Sages wife
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Except it might hurt less in a country where the population is accustomed to living on 2 dollars a day.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 22:45 | 5539137 Jethro
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That's true in one sense.  People have lower expectations, they improvise more and certainly get by on less.  Other the other hand,life is far cheaper in these places as well.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 23:23 | 5539253 shovelhead
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Ebola Alley.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 23:45 | 5539301 Muppet
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Why wait for a collapse if thats your reasoning?   Go now. 

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 03:36 | 5539575 A Nanny Moose
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As I often ponder....

When SHTF, who is better equipped to live without shoes? Those accustomed to living without shoes, or those worried about the designer label affixed to their shoes?

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 22:20 | 5539066 MontgomeryScott
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"This monumental collapse of the world economy is going to suck everyone everywhere."

Imagine that the world is actually the rim of a toilet. Everyone in the world is spaced around it, none very close to each other. No one sees what the others are doing, and they stare into the center (where the water is). All of a sudden, an unseen hand reaches out and depresses the lever that starts the flush. The water swirls in, unevenly at first, and then faster and faster; and it rises, dislodging the people who are clinging to the rim, who go for a ride and become at ease as the water climbs. Soon, the maelstrom engulfs everyone. Spinning madly, they fail to see the whirlpool beneath them opening up as the water quickly recedes...

IT'S THE BIG FLUSH, AND WE'RE ON THE RIM!

Yeah. Fucking 'liquidity' for the fucking 'markets' is the WATER; and the Central Banksters are gonna flip the lever. Look at the OPEC charts, and the others in unison. THAT, combined with Fukushima, Mancondo 252 A (B, C), stratospheric aerosol geoengineering, and events taking place in the Universe as a whole, will leave no place untouched. How about that possibility of full scale pre-emptive nuclear war for a 'wildcard'?

Leaving where you are will only delay the inevitable (and waste resources better used); UNLESS you happen to be in the entire fucking Northern Hemisphere (anywhere), or in Lybia, Somalia, Sudan, Chechnya, Iran, Argentina, Venezuela, Chile, Cuba, ...

 

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 05:18 | 5539403 stacking12321
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oh, look, some anonymous guy on the internet calling himself MontgomeryScott is giving such great advice. and then he ends with "UNLESS you happen to be in the entire fucking Northern Hemisphere (anywhere), or in Lybia, Somalia, Sudan, Chechnya, Iran, Argentina, Venezuela, Chile, Cuba, ...", which is kind of funny as almost all those nations he mentions ARE in the northern hemisphere. oh well, georgraphy, and facts and such really aren't americans' strong point.

and why he clumps relatively open and successful chile in with a made-up list of a bunch of failing and centrally planned 3rd-world countries (plus iran) is also a mystery.

ah well, who am i to question the genius of a great thinker such as MontgomeryScott.

 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:35 | 5538010 Uber Vandal
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LOL +1000

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 19:07 | 5538411 Ahoy Polloi
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So basically, the HINDENBURG disaster was a 'rigged' explosion?

 

Oh the humanity!

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 00:21 | 5539371 mkkby
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To time my trades, I plan to throw a cat out the window once a week to see if it bounces.  That and anxiously awaiting the ZH deer in headlights.

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 03:37 | 5539576 A Nanny Moose
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You didn't Hindenburg that.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 19:36 | 5538526 SparticusUK
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Its over 9000!

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:51 | 5538344 BrerRabbit
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I regret I only have one up-arrow to give you for this comment. Fucking Brilliant.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 20:05 | 5538672 El Vaquero
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"It occurred to me that when the crash does finally hit, we'll probably be the last people on the planet to believe it's happening.  Everyone will be freaking out, we'll still be sitting here waiting for the Fed to magically re-levitate the market."

 

LOLOL!

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 22:14 | 5539036 Sages wife
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Hey NoDebt, I swear I was thinking that same thought this aft. No shit. Of all people, we should believe this is it. The fact that there is limited chestpounding here on ZH is eerie. We all know it's coming, but.... Testament to the magnitude of what we are about to witness. Fortunatey, we're prepared.

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 00:48 | 5539419 malek
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Could happen.

But I had a strong sense in June 2008 that things were coming to a head.
Since December 2010 I never had that feeling again, also not currently.

We will see if I'll get that forewarning sense again...

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 19:58 | 5538627 Rentier88
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Ditto tired of the endless BS doom and gloom that never happens.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 22:26 | 5539083 MontgomeryScott
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"Ditto tired of the endless BS doom and gloom that never happens."

BOY! Does Obama have a medical plan for YOU! You don't happen to know anyone living in Greece or the Ukraine or Lybia, do you?

NO? GOOD...

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 23:57 | 5539323 FrankieGoesToHo...
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Be fucking happy it doesnt happen.  Jeez, you want the end of the world jsut so you dont have to be bored anymore?  Come out of the basement, there's a world out there!

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:17 | 5537915 ZH Snob
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get used to it, it's a hindenburg market!

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:23 | 5537962 ShrNfr
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And it's a gas.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:28 | 5537977 Tsar Pointless
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You're full of hot air.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:33 | 5538003 ParkAveFlasher
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Somebody light a match!

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:49 | 5538072 swass
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Smoke 'em if ya got 'em.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 22:52 | 5539152 MontgomeryScott
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An historical footnote:

The reason that the Hindenberg was filled with Hydrogen gas is that someone in the United States State Department decided that selling Helium gas (or the technology to produce it) to the Germans was somehow a 'threat to the State'; and thusly, an EMBARGO was placed on its' export to Germany. Congress was lobbied, and bought the line. I find this rather interesting, as the transatlantic trips that the Hindenberg made had been quite sucessful, and almost a 'routine'; and also a challenge to the shipping lines of the day as the customers could make the passage in a quarter of the time.

It is almost like a 'propagandistic sign' that the hindenberg just HAPPENED to explode over its' mooring base in Lakehurst, NEW JERSEY. From MEMORY, it was something like the 93rd Transatlantic crossing (but this number might be incorrect. I'm open to correction via documentation).

'Those EVIL and STUPID NAZIS couldn't even build a BLIMP that didn't EXPLODE...' screamed the op-eds of the N.Y. Times, et.al. Tribal leaders and tribal cheerleaders...

DIRIGIBLE, by the way. Rigid exoskeleton filled with gas-bags that provided lift (unlike the BLIMP, which was the U.S. tech of the time that employed a great big balloon with shit strapped to the bottom, and couldn't fly when the windspeed went over 25 MPH).

 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 23:31 | 5539271 MrSteve
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It is called a BLIMP because the ALIMP was a failure. The bright fire at the Hindenberg explosion was due to the magnesium (extremely light-weight) struts torching off. The photographers had "natural" scene lighting.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:55 | 5538088 IridiumRebel
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Wake me when we get to the dreaded DEAD ZEPPELIN.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 22:00 | 5538988 Implied Violins
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Only Bonham is dead so far. Kind of amazing, really.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 22:31 | 5539093 MontgomeryScott
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That reminds me of a song. A little 'Stairway To Heaven' in memorium:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcL---4xQYA

The fucking WHORES of BABYLON. A dual meaning: The list of 'suicided bankers'...

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 19:52 | 5538600 SparticusUK
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Its a hindenburg eat hindenburg world,,, biggest bubble wins ,, 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:00 | 5538117 Canuckistan Al
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Man you cant swing a cat around ZH these days without hitting a Hindenburg.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:48 | 5538197 exartizo
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COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC:

RECOMMEND AVOIDING OPTIONSHOUSE.COM BROKERAGE

My friend has an options account with OptionsHouse.com

He purchased some out of the money long dated AAPL puts yesterday.

OptionsHouse manipulated the purchase price of his options so that they made approximately another 10% profit on his purchase between the bid and the ask spread in a relatively illiquid market for that particular strike price and date.

Secondarily, OptionsHouse took the other side of the trade today and started SELLING puts into his strike price which resulted in further depressing the value of the puts he purchased yesterday.

While these actions may not be illegal, they are unethical. Optionshouse is effectively "betting" against their own customers interests in the options markets.

The value of his options dropped roughly 15% from purchase price on two days when the combined drop in the price of Apple stock was approximately 3% and when the value of 95% of all other options in the same time period increased approximately 10-12%.

If anyone on ZH has had similar experiences with OptionsHouse please feel free to send me a private message.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:48 | 5538326 Oldwood
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And he hoped to beat the house how?

Silly rabbit. There are but predators and prey in what so many would call the market.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 19:07 | 5538396 exartizo
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No doubt.

And the SEC is complicit (or watching porn at their desks) of course, so certainly no recourse there.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 19:49 | 5538581 Peak Finance
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Seriously?

OptionsHouse manipulated the purchase price of his options so that they made approximately another 10% profit on his purchase between the bid and the ask spread in a relatively illiquid market for that particular strike price and date.

The only way I can see this happening is if you placed a market order? You read this site all of the time and entered a fucking MARKET order? Should have known better by now but I guess everyone has to learn the hard way. I did this ONCE by ACCIDENT a few years back and the fucking HFT's ping-ponged the price up .46 cents PER CONTRACT by the time the order executed. Placing a market order for an illiquid security is like bending over and spreading your cheeks in a bathhouse. 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 20:17 | 5538709 exartizo
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lol.

your drama is humorous.

but if you read the post, it wasn't me my friend.

obviously that doesn't prevent us from having some compassion on those less fortunate than us in terms of knowledge and understanding of the rigged financial markets.

right?

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 20:24 | 5538731 Peak Finance
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Then show some compassion and get your friend on this site ASAP!

 

It's not drama man, when it's SO FUCKING BAD that the big guys are using HFT's and scalping little fish like us for .46 a contract, it's time for a revolution. 

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 07:25 | 5539682 samcontrol
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sounds like we have a lot in common.We know it's going to blow yet we stay on ship just to see if we get lucky one final time.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 20:09 | 5538680 Seize Mars
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exartizo

Dude, relax. Would you feel better if you *didn't* know who's on the other side of your trade? Who cares?

You're going to be right or wrong on your trade, and none of their machinations will change that. The only thing you can control is how much you put on. You can't control the scumbag on the other side. Would you "feel good" if your counterparty was some nice gramma?

Stop with the "feelings," they don't matter and won't affect the outcome.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 20:17 | 5538712 exartizo
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lol.

I'll pass the sentiment on SM.

Cheers.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 19:18 | 5538453 SILVERGEDDON
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No. You didn't build that Hindenburg.

You just get to burn when it crashes. 

Oops. we burned some sheeple.  

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:07 | 5537854 SilverIsMoney
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Notice the 3pm ramp failed... we got all the way up to 17600 only to crash 70pts in 15min...

Something is off with this manipulation scheme... I sense a disturbance in the farce.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:14 | 5537885 flacon
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I'm holding AND KEEPING DIA Jan 17 $172 puts. I went long at 3:08pm for a bounce with a small fraction of dry powder right at the bottom today, ended up making some money but like you said it all collapsed before 4pm. Who knows what this market is going to do overnight. 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:49 | 5538330 cnmcdee
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GET OUT! You are going to be MONKEY HAMMERED eventually on *any* long positions in the market. 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 19:21 | 5538459 espirit
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I predict the unpredictable, anybody in the market will get monkey hammered.

 

(either long or short)

Poof, and it's gone.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 19:42 | 5538553 Meme Iamfurst
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cum-by-ya, we will all be poor together, rubbing shoulders with bankers and politians at the party under the freeway...sipping Sly Fox and Sprint punch while the wait for the Ijunk to charge up.  Sweet....I bet that these machines will be working overtime all Christmas ( or whatever) to do right by the masters.  May be there will be a major solar eruption that is strong enough to penetrate to the center of the earth.  Naw, ain't gona happen, none of it.  Anything gone get penetrated it will be us.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 20:08 | 5538683 El Vaquero
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Yup.  Get out, do not short.  You have to time it right for the shorting and if you stay in long enough, the value of your stocks will be vaporized either through hyperinflation or through a really nasty crash. 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:15 | 5537901 hobopants
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Football yanking imminent, green by friday.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:33 | 5537997 SilverIsMoney
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The thing is hobo housing bears whiffed as many times and we have until they finally didn't in 2008-2009.

Eventually reality does reappear it just tends to take 7 years for some reason...

It feels an awful lot like 2007 and 2008 is just now around the corner...

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:26 | 5538227 EHM
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It has taken 7 years to double the national debt each time. Weird.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:57 | 5538363 cossack55
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This shemitah cat above may be on to something.  I may have to check this out.  Gotta love the obscure never-heard of shit.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 20:10 | 5538688 Incubus
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it's all shemitahntics

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:34 | 5538000 Bossman1967
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Maybe the markets go where my precious mtals went and these greedy cocksuckers on wallstreet will feel the heat while they enjoy thier survival kits. They will need them. People are so stupid Ill explain I sat with a client ladt week about securing his money and getting his IRA as safe as possible but after he talked to his broker he acted like I was a stranger so you know what fuck the masses they will get whats coming to them. Then he will want what I have and as I told him Ill see you when the half you lost is in the toilet and I will make it back for him. See ai am the honest nice guy and I allways finish last

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:47 | 5538061 HobbyFarmer
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The stupid learn for themselves.

 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 19:46 | 5538562 Meme Iamfurst
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hopefully his Wilson Watt Puppies and stuff are paid off.  Take the car but not the puppies.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 21:50 | 5538958 himaroid
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Been there, done that.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:12 | 5537868 Rainman
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Finally these stupid humans realize there 'may' be counterparty risk . .. hehehe

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:11 | 5537870 FieldingMellish
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Margin calls coming in. Gold getting an aftermarket whipping.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:15 | 5537895 Al Huxley
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There's not that much long-side spec gold to close out any more.  That's the only downside for the fucking shit-headed cunts jerking the chains - if they want to push gold down they have to short it themselves.  Nevertheless, I'm sure they'll do it - not like they have to honor their shorts anyway, and still 720 tons in GLD to clean out.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:36 | 5538011 Bay of Pigs
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GLD = HSBC

Anyone thinking these fuckers have 720 tons of physical gold is crazy. They wouldn't honor any reasonable audit of their gold holdings to anyone. This ETF is a complete farce.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:40 | 5538035 Al Huxley
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I think they actually have it, but what they do is use it to fill demand for physical, probably out of Asia, and probably pocketing the spread.  Something along these lines

- Asian client buys physical gold.  Bullion banks have no gold

- Bullion banks (or HSBC if you want to be specific) sell a massive amount of paper futures into the thin overnight market.

- GLD holders panic and sell GLD, further depressing the price.

- GLD sales mean there is physical gold in the GLD inventory that's no longer required

- Banks use the freed-up GLD inventory to deliver to Asian buyer

 

 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:53 | 5538347 Oldwood
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One wonders how long that scheme can last. Eventually I would think they would get down to the gold bugs who won't sell at much of any price.  I know I would be hardpressed to sell gold I had paid $1500 for, for $1200. But then I'm a horder not a speculator.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 19:25 | 5538481 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Still don't get why gold bugs think of their gold in dollar terms when WE ALL KNOW the long term worthlessness of fiat. It is just bloody bizarre. Most gold bugs are as obsessed with notional value as Zimbabwe investors were with their stock market. What difference does it make what the paper value of your gold is? What are you going to do, sell your gold when it's worth 20 bazillion dollars per ounce? Well, that's just great. Gold bugs have it ass backwards. If anything you want to keep your gold as it's fiat value skyrockets and get rid of when it's fiat value plummets.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 22:31 | 5539095 SolarSystem1932
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Mr. Asteroid Guy..

  "Still don't get why gold bugs think of their gold in dollar terms when WE ALL KNOW the long term worthlessness of fiat."

Mr. Solar System responds...

 "Because $that$ is the demonination in which we BUY it."

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 07:35 | 5539694 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Mate, you could buy it in sea shells, but I still don't get what the point of tracking the paper price of gold is. Up, down, up, down, up, smashed, spike, flat, up, down, smashed, sky rocket to da moon.

Haven't you relinquished your interest in fiat when you buy gold. Jeez, I bought gold and silver years ago and couldn't give a flying crap what goes on in the paper market. This is stress free. They could whack the price to $100.00 an ounce for all I care and it'd barely register . . . . . . . ok, I'd buy more, but you get where I'm coming from.

Hey, thanks for being there, without you my asteroid would have anywhere to be.

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 03:40 | 5539578 Clowns on Acid
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Right. Buy high and Sell low.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 19:55 | 5538620 Meme Iamfurst
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"There's not that much long-side spec gold to close out any more.  That's the only downside for the fucking shit-headed cunts jerking the chains - if they want to push gold down they have to short it themselves.  Nevertheless, I'm sure they'll do it - not like they have to honor their shorts anyway, and still 720 tons in GLD to clean out."

Well Al...we can all thank George W. Bush for them NOT having to cover their shorts.  Or, Has everone forgotten he stuck that charming bit into the bailout of these pricks.  How does anyone not understand that THIS, more than anything else, has allowed the shorts to be murdered on a daily basis.  A rigged game for years, yet no one seem to know about this Jewel but Al and me....and the banks.  You short, you die.

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 01:33 | 5539479 Bay of Pigs
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Bullshit and you are wrong (and I hate Bush). I guess you forgot Clinton signing the bill to repeal the Glass Steagall Act in 1999?

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:50 | 5538043 Bastiat
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Whipping??? You're kidding.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 22:01 | 5538996 Proofreder
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Ja Mon

Right

/sarc

(showing the yellow at 1227.90, off a dollar)  Troll much ?

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:11 | 5537877 MsCreant
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Deer in the Headlights is missing, quick!

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:12 | 5537879 Dr. Engali
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Hop on shorts, this is the big one. In no way will I come in and manipulate the market again. I promise, cross my heart (if I had one).

Sincerely,
Old Yeller

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:19 | 5537923 Al Huxley
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This is it!  This is the big one!  See gold jump 30 bucks yesterday!  That's the bullion banks buying in a panic to cover before December!  Watch what happens now as people rush out of the market and into gold!  LOL.

 

 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 19:21 | 5538460 jomama
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I had to roll my eyes as well.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 21:55 | 5538968 agstacks
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Harvey Organ said so!
\sarc

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 00:14 | 5539358 Crisismode
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Harvey's Organ has lost it's stiff resilience.

How can you trust a limp reason?

 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:20 | 5537929 pods
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Yellen is one tough dude.

Did you ever try and Donkey Punch a Bear?

She has!

pods

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:23 | 5537947 Al Huxley
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I preferred his work with Larry and Curly to what he's putting out at the FED, though.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:33 | 5538002 i_call_you_my_base
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Bowlcut Bob sez, capital is well priced.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:41 | 5538041 Al Huxley
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He's liking the price-to-equity ratio more than ever.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:05 | 5538137 PTR
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Unless it's roscrucian. Then it's double-crossed.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:15 | 5537888 Squid Viscous
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Turn those machines back on!!

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:14 | 5537890 _ConanTheLibert...
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There better be another Hindenburg tomorrow!

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:20 | 5537931 Bell's 2 hearted
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The Hindenburgs will continue ... until morale improves ...

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 19:27 | 5538494 BringOnTheAsteroid
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We Hindenburgered some folks. 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 20:11 | 5538694 Incubus
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We heisenberged some folks

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 20:16 | 5538704 HowdyDoody
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Are you sure about that?

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:37 | 5538021 Winston Churchill
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A cluster-fuck of Hindenburgs.

Better be black ones.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:17 | 5537892 22winmag
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Don't smoke around hydrogen.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:10 | 5538167 Ginsengbull
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It's not that bad.

 

When it leaks, it goes straight up.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:15 | 5537896 ...out of space
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the deer is coming back

 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:15 | 5537900 Bunghole
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Looks like it's time to take that last 401k loan for that 2008 Excursion

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:18 | 5537912 falak pema
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During the Maoist regime, it issued 350 solemn warnings to the "dirty capitalists" to get their sticky fingers out of Nam and Asian dirty plays. 

Is ZH now going to issue Hindenburg warnings on the same Ricther scale; all to the same sterile effect?

Capitalism of Oligarchy plays is immune to "warnings".

It only knows one way : its called the Hahnnekamm downhill; its the toughest ski race in the world and its all schuss! 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:51 | 5538074 THX 1178
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A commenter here noted something similar yesterday- in a world with ppt and qe and monetary policy, markets have no real trap door. I dont know just how meaningful the hindenburg omen is. obviously it is a BIT outdated... its called the fucking HINDENBURG omen. Now thats oldskool.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:18 | 5537913 Emperor
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Fed up of the US American world order, collapse it !

USA's time is up.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:22 | 5537916 dolbiere
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TLT blasting to the upside. btw, i warned you all here that the dax was crashing a few weeks back. i think it made a new high a couple days ago. sorry about that.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:24 | 5537955 Bell's 2 hearted
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woot!

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:19 | 5537919 SheepDog-One
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Confirmed cluster-fuck.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:26 | 5537970 Make_Mine_A_Double
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Confirmed ass fuck on my GreenBrier stock. God damn...

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:50 | 5538342 cnmcdee
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Get out of the market!! This is a Shemitah Year before it completes on September 13th 2015 the market will be decimated.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:18 | 5537924 Make_Mine_A_Double
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Where's the Hinden Deer ??

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 18:41 | 5538296 joego1
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It's hinden in the bushes.

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 19:53 | 5538614 mt paul
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ground up

and made into hidenburgers...

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:21 | 5537935 wagthetails
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Kevin Henry is the Hindie slayer.  seriously, how many times has hindie been right....no traditional analysis can make sense of this market.  eventually when hindie is right, it will be the big one.  but is this it?  some folks (now ZH has me saying folks) say the oil bubble was the real cause of the 2008 crash, and now some folks say the oil crash will cause a current crash.  i belive there are enough metrics and charts out there to prove pretty much any point. 

Thu, 12/11/2014 - 00:15 | 5539363 Crisismode
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Nailed it.

+1

 

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:24 | 5537940 SheepDog-One
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Que some Fed geezer jawboning 'Hey, dont forget our story moar QE is coming soon!' In 5.....4....

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:37 | 5538022 Bossman1967
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They have 1.1trillion to spend tomorrow so just wait

Wed, 12/10/2014 - 17:23 | 5537948 Kreditanstalt
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Why aren't BOTH USD and JPY crashing - against SOMETHING?  Certainly not gold.

They damn well should both be crashing...

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