When a man's an empty kettle He should be on his mettle And yet he's torn apart Just because he's presumin' That he could be a human If he only had (someone's...anyone's) heart
It's fascinating to watch him look directly into the camera and state that 8 scrawny hijackers overtook tough ex-Marine pilots, accurately flew 2 huge aircraft on a whim, evaded sophisticated military radar and information technology, all in a matter of an hour to hit the WTC, and cause them to collapse with precision into their own footprints at free fall. He needs an Oscar for that performance.
International law? Forget it, we're exceptional and we make our own law, according to Cheney (And The MIC) perspective.
The Geneva Conventions were developed over centuries and for a very good reason. And, of course, they apply in both directions, so Cheney and the rest of his psychopathic ilk had better not start bleating when US captives are treated in the same way. Even McCain gets it...because he has been on the receiving end himself.
"It's fascinating to watch him look directly into the camera and state that 8 scrawny hijackers overtook tough ex-Marine pilots, accurately flew 2 huge aircraft on a whim, evaded sophisticated military radar and information technology,"
Only if your're a liberal arts major.
The rest of us look at the odds (8 on 2), the lies (evaded radar.....fighters were scrambled....but with the problem of crossing space requiring time, given velocity being a function of distance AND time), proficiency per hundred flight training hours purchased, and tensile strength on a temperature curve.
By the rest of us do you mean most of the population? Do you think the average person thinks that way? Do average people have at least a working knowledge of flight physics? So who do you mean by the rest of us? Pilots, physicists, etc?
What I meant was that Cheney keeps promoting that ghastly tale and still manages a straight face. How did student pilots manage to fly such sharp turns with a complicated plane? Are commercial aircraft really so easy that even a student can do it?
Any pilots out there? How much flying time is required before the ability to handle such a plane on routine flight paths, and how long to make sharp turns in a cosmopolitan area at a low altitude?
No..... Just low grade ass wipe. You seriously believe that shit? And that torturing people ( some of whom have been completely exonerated ) is OK. I have no love of John McCain but here is a dude who has been tortured and he finds the whole thing repulsive. fuck you.
Yep, I'm a leftist. You got me there genius. Wow! Really, that's what you got? Calling me a leftist? You really don't get it, do you? They have you hook, line and sinker. And you don't even know it.
He's also very angry. He believes the story and is trying to defend it. Even if planes did impact the towers how does he explain the collapse? How could a fire destroy the towers so completly in so short a time? All the passengers and their property, luggage, two fuselages, all the internal structrues, four wings, six tailfins, huge jet engines and tires--none were recovered. They just vanished with the fire. Just like that. He didn't explain how 7 collapsed the same way without any impact.
I do not belive planes hit the tower. I made the mistake of trying to reason with a government troll. If you watch the footage in slow motion the "plane" melts into the building as far as the tail before the fireball. If it had been a plane if would have exploded on impact and massive chunks would have been hurled back into the streets. So what hit the towers? I don't know. Maybe you do. I'm not buying the government story.
I know you don't, whch makes it impossible for anyone to have a rational discussion with you on this subject.
We have to have a mutual understanding of what...reality is. Grass is green, the sky is blue etc. Part of the problem with "Truthers" trying to reason with anyone else is they ask them to first suspend their comprehension of reality.
Thousands of on-the-ground eyewitnesses saw the planes hit.
Did you see the footage in slow motion? Until I saw it I thought they were planes, too. Also how do you explain that nothing from either plane was recovered? How was it that at least parts of the wings did not get sheared off and sent flying back? What other crash scene left no parts for investigation?
This is exactly what I'm talking about. If you think I'm going to argue with a fool as to whether or not all those eyewitnesses saw and dodged the debris raining down on them from the planes hitting those buildings then you're a greater fool than I first took you for.
I can take absolutely nothing from the investigation or everything presented and still know they crashed into them.
So you did not see the footage in slow motion. No prob.
Yes there was building debris everywhere, both towers were pulverized which raises other questions. But that's not the point. What plane debris was found? How do you explain the complete absence of a tire, a door, luggage, a seat, anything.
...but, but, but....there are people that want to kill us. We have their passport! No jet parts, but a passport.
It's OK to question, and to ask others to question, but it's not worth getting worked up about. Yeah, government lies all the time. We are statistically more likely to be murdered by agents of our own government, than a few brown goat herders.
Neither voting, armed revolution, nor arguiing with trolls will fix it. Only by creating a market for voluntary interaction, and refusing to participate in the market based on coercion force, will we accomplish anything meaningful.
The trolls must be on commission. It's over. The 911 attack was a false flag hoax to justify foreign invasions. At this point it's a matter of speculation as to what hit the towers, but more information is always surfacing. Were they small/large planes, piloted/remote controlled, missiles, holographs, etc. The fact that so many trolls are spending valuable time on blogs throwing water indicates that the planners are in a panic. As they should be for what they have done.
"Oilfield service behemoth Halliburton Co. (HAL) declared at Capital One's annual energy conference that it might book roughly $75 million of restructuring charges in its financial statement during the fourth-quarter of this year. The charges will be related to lay off and streamline operations to suit to the weak crude pricing environment.
The company is expected to cut roughly 1,000 jobs across Europe, Asia, Africa, the Middle East and Australia, effective immediately. The main reason for the head-count cut is the challenging market scenario owing to plummeting oil prices – as reflected in a more than 44% crude price fall since June this year."
I have Gmail voice now Angus if you want to call. They say it is free. I still think Canadian geese suck duck at hockey. Fuck it I am just going to call you and tell you that you are wanker.
The Corleones were never this bad. They did not betray America, and would not likely tolerate anyone among them who would. Michael Corleone running DC would be an improvement.
"Former US President George W Bush, his Vice-President Dick Cheney and six other members of his administration have been found guilty of war crimes by a tribunal in Malaysia."
I tell you what, if I had the wherewithal, I'd arrest all eight of them, and send them to Kuala Lumpur to serve their sentences.
Then I'd come for the rest of them.
An American, not US subject.
Now we know why they were stealing Malaysian jets for their MH-17 psy-op in the Ukraine.
Our increased technology just screams an advanced Electronic Laser Guillotine (ELG). My guess is POS Chertoffs firm will get the contract. Oh, and what if the head were to drop in to a Super Ninja juicer. Then throw the corpse in to a industrial grade de-hydrator and use it for biofuel.
Man, its been a tough week. This time of year always brings out my dark side.
Anyone down voting this must love the taste of Cheney cock and believe we are much better off due to his. "leadership".... Un-fucking-believable. WTF is going on here, where did these idiots come from?
what is up with the downvotes? not feelin' the humour noir?
ok. plain english.
if there is such a thing as infinite reincarnation, and if cheney's former incarnation lived during the pre-1865 era, then it is highly likely that cheney would've been a slave-owner, ordering others to whip other human beings, because he is the kind of psychopath who would point to a legal document claiming that his slaves are his property and that he could do whatever he wanted with them. because he is a FREE (OLD, WHITE) MAN! :-P
what bollocks.
to see how far this country has come, yet how far away from integrity and ethics we still are...
"Any person who commits an act which constitutes a crime under international law is responsible therefore and liable to punishment."
Principle II
"The fact that internal law does not impose a penalty for an act which constitutes a crime under international law does not relieve the person who committed the act from responsibility under international law."
Principle III
"The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime under international law acted as Head of State or responsible governmentofficial does not relieve him from responsibility under international law."
Principle IV
"The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him".
Legal system = central banking system = big gub = tax for everything = publik skool = poisons offered as 'food' = sickcare system = war on everything = ....
Bastiat might say, "The current system is a system of plunder."
“But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime.” ? Frédéric Bastiat, The La
An American, not US subject.
"You can continue to let them milk you, or kick over their bucket and then kick them in the teeth."
"There is no such thing as "International Law" except as a class in law school, which is where they will tell you it does not exist."
Good point, but my point is not that so called "international law" has any effect in the American country, but that they are in violation of the ideas behind those four principles.
It also highlights their lie of "rule of law," as they are supposedly subject to "international law."
Really just a point of thought, not necessarily a point of fact.
The power of Christ (whoever he is) must refer to the religion built around his "memory". It is that religion that condones infanticide, torture, murder, slavery, etc. You cannot point to Christianity for any moral high ground. I know, I know, I'm too literal. You were probably joking.
If he's really human -he may have been human at one time, but he may have sold his soul to Satan and he may even be possessed by a demon that his totally taken control of his body and mind. Have you ever noticed the demonic satanic expressions on his face - you see the same thing with Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle. They almost look like caricatures of satan. Really -watch their facial expressions next time -it's not human.
If reporters are lining up to try an interrogation technique to determine if it's torture then you can be pretty sure it's not torture. I don't see anybody taking a blow torch to their genitalia to determine if it's torture.
I honestly don't understand why ZH goes ape over EITs (torture, if you want to call it that) on non-uniformed enemy combatants that has no right to Geneva Convention treatment. If were fighting a government's army, I might agree, but we are not cutting off heads or limbs. Also, how is droning from a far more moral, especially when there women and children that end up killed as "collateral damage".
Would you all rather have more terrorist fly planes into buildings? Nevermind, you all probably think the US Govt was responsible for 911.
I honestly don't understand how YOU can't wrap your mind around how some of those people could have been innocent. No right to a trial to confirm their innocence. It's just lazy and shoddy. Who cares,right? Just brown people.
The real problem is that none of these people are terrorists- most are completely innocewnt schm ucks -others are freedom fighters defening their homes, culture and religion. the only real islamic terrorsists are Mossad/CIA front groups like Al Quaeda ISIS - and they do our bidding, so there's no reason to torture them.
I would love to give Cheney a few water boarding sessions -I guarantee he would sqeal like a pig and tell us all of the real 911 perpetrators - starting with himself
So what about Islamic agression throughout history? The conquest of the subcontintent of India. They killed millions of Hindus and force converted Pakistan. The marines were created as an answer to Islamic pirates who were slaving and theiving. The Mossad are tricky, so tricky they were in business way before Israel existed.
How about 500,000 dead in Irak, what do you expect, US army goes there for no valid reason, without properly declaring war against Irak and then some Americans get decapitated.... duh..? What did you expect.... girls with flowers??? Nothing against US soliders, but the civilian politicians are decerebrated wuss who confuse arrogance with intelligence...
Because it was too difficult? Why is it dumb to believe that a group of terrorists were able to take control of some flying busses? The hard part of flying is taking off and landing, but they didn't plan on doing either of those things. They wanted to fly wings level and hit the broad side of a barn, a huge barn. It was simple enough that I imagine even you could have done it.
Read the material written by military and commercial pilots stating that not even the best of them could do the flying that those planes did that day. Especially not some dumbass ZIA patsies who had a view hours flying Cessnas. But the official narrative was written for a 9-year old intellect which is why you are beholden to it.
Do you really think they want to tell you it's easy. Do you think they want dumbasses like you knowing how simple 9/11 was? You don't even need a few hours in a Cessna, I'll bet flight sim X would do just fine.
Let me get this straight. You believe it's too difficult to learn how to fly wings level, and yet you believe every incredibly complicated conspiracy theory that you ever heard. I love the nuts here. For the record, I prefer to be called Mr. Mossad agent. Don't make me get my radiation cannon.
Research regarding how difficult it was for a plane to hit a building the size of a runway? There is no research that needs to be done. I see planes hit runways every day. If you had said that they were actually remotely controlled, well then I can entertain that idea, since they are certainly designed to be nearly autonomous. If you really wanted to be cool then you would have said it was caused by a computer virus. You however want to make flying an aircraft seem as complicated as possible, because then only an organization such as the government could have did it. You're wrong, now go wedge your head right back into Jesse Ventura's ass, where it usually is.
Sober up yet? My comments were based on the assertion that muslim terrorists flew the planes into the WTC. Utter nonsense as has been proven over and over and over and over again to the point where even an active alcoholic like yourself could see. Now, if the commentary was about israeli terrorists flying the planes via remote control, that assertion about terrorists "flying" the planes I would agree with. Stay sober, you'll get smarter that way.
Why don't you at least offer a government study. They want it to appear as complicated as you do, since they don't want the public to realize that just about any nut with a box cutter could have taken over a commercial airliner. Regarding my drinking habits, I may have been drunk last night, but you were retarded. Today I'm sober and you're.......still......retarded.
Are you for real? Have you any idea what you just wrote? A government study to be created by a government that was at minimal complicit with PNAC and the israelis in the attack?
Here's some homework for you:
1. Dump all the alcohol out of your home.
2. Find a local 12-step group and get a sponsor.
3. Research what has been already created, in volumes by professional pilots and others on what happened that day.
4. Stay off of ZH until you have done at least 1 and 2.
You know what the width of the world trade center was? 208 ft. You want to know the average width over a commerical landing strip? 200 ft. You're a fucking genius so I'll let you do the math. I will give you a hint. We build landing strips large enough so that aircraft can easily hit them.
Man oh man. Have you actually read anything about the plane's actions that day? Can you read, or are you simply the 9-year old intellect plopped in front of a tv/monitor all day?
Hopefully 'WE' didn't do anything like this before, but governments have been at it since humans invented agriculture and gave up being hunter-gatherers.
We did it at least as far back as '95 as John doe #2 was killed while being tortured for info about OKC, and I'm sure long before that. He'll we fucking drone innocent people today. Makes one wonder if sick head Cheney ever left but is still doing his masters bidding.
Cheney gets a heart transplant while kids and teenagers die waiting for one. This shitbag should have his heart cut out and given to someone more deserving
Who would want it? His heart must have resembled a shrivelled up walnut, that is why he needed a new one. And why he needs a new one every few years, and a pacemaker in between. He is so evil he cannot have a heart.
Cheney, The Pussy? the one who will not talk without his wife beside him? Cheney had no loyalty to the citizens of the nation he was chosen to preside over, he was a self-described businessman and not concerned about votes. He make money hand over fist, albeit blood and tear drenched. There is a term for this: Prostitution.
Neo-cons just being neo-cons that's all move along there's nothing else to see here. Dick Cheney is the original sociopath's sociopath.
Maybe as a bitter clinger, they'll waterboard me at FEMA camp to find out where my Bible is hidden. That would be so much fun. Just like fucking North Korea kind of fun you know.
At least he's got a pot to piss in......
DEATH TO LETTUCE!!
Dick "I should be in Chains" Cheney...
When a man's an empty kettle
He should be on his mettle
And yet he's torn apart
Just because he's presumin'
That he could be a human
If he only had (someone's...anyone's) heart
pure evil, not even human...no higher form of evil
Come on, he thought he was raising money for ALS.
All kidding aside, EVIL AS FUCK.
It's fascinating to watch him look directly into the camera and state that 8 scrawny hijackers overtook tough ex-Marine pilots, accurately flew 2 huge aircraft on a whim, evaded sophisticated military radar and information technology, all in a matter of an hour to hit the WTC, and cause them to collapse with precision into their own footprints at free fall. He needs an Oscar for that performance.
International law? Forget it, we're exceptional and we make our own law, according to Cheney (And The MIC) perspective.
The Geneva Conventions were developed over centuries and for a very good reason. And, of course, they apply in both directions, so Cheney and the rest of his psychopathic ilk had better not start bleating when US captives are treated in the same way. Even McCain gets it...because he has been on the receiving end himself.
"It's fascinating to watch him look directly into the camera and state that 8 scrawny hijackers overtook tough ex-Marine pilots, accurately flew 2 huge aircraft on a whim, evaded sophisticated military radar and information technology,"
Only if your're a liberal arts major.
The rest of us look at the odds (8 on 2), the lies (evaded radar.....fighters were scrambled....but with the problem of crossing space requiring time, given velocity being a function of distance AND time), proficiency per hundred flight training hours purchased, and tensile strength on a temperature curve.
By the rest of us do you mean most of the population? Do you think the average person thinks that way? Do average people have at least a working knowledge of flight physics? So who do you mean by the rest of us? Pilots, physicists, etc?
What I meant was that Cheney keeps promoting that ghastly tale and still manages a straight face. How did student pilots manage to fly such sharp turns with a complicated plane? Are commercial aircraft really so easy that even a student can do it?
Any pilots out there? How much flying time is required before the ability to handle such a plane on routine flight paths, and how long to make sharp turns in a cosmopolitan area at a low altitude?
mjcOH1 you must be the lead troll.
No ..... just a rational voice facing a fool.
No..... Just low grade ass wipe. You seriously believe that shit? And that torturing people ( some of whom have been completely exonerated ) is OK. I have no love of John McCain but here is a dude who has been tortured and he finds the whole thing repulsive. fuck you.
No, fucktard. The dimwit I called out chose to ignore flight physics.
Your strawman is changing that into a torture argument, you leftist piece of shit.
Yep, I'm a leftist. You got me there genius. Wow! Really, that's what you got? Calling me a leftist? You really don't get it, do you? They have you hook, line and sinker. And you don't even know it.
I'm a leftist everyone, he says so.
He's also very angry. He believes the story and is trying to defend it. Even if planes did impact the towers how does he explain the collapse? How could a fire destroy the towers so completly in so short a time? All the passengers and their property, luggage, two fuselages, all the internal structrues, four wings, six tailfins, huge jet engines and tires--none were recovered. They just vanished with the fire. Just like that. He didn't explain how 7 collapsed the same way without any impact.
Yep, 'Merica, Fuck Yeah!
"Even if planes did impact the towers how does he explain the collapse?"
No, this is not an ice pick coming toward your eyeball just hold still, its only a licorice stick.
If planes hit the towers? I think you just made his point...lol.
I do not belive planes hit the tower. I made the mistake of trying to reason with a government troll. If you watch the footage in slow motion the "plane" melts into the building as far as the tail before the fireball. If it had been a plane if would have exploded on impact and massive chunks would have been hurled back into the streets. So what hit the towers? I don't know. Maybe you do. I'm not buying the government story.
"I do not belive planes hit the tower."
I know you don't, whch makes it impossible for anyone to have a rational discussion with you on this subject.
We have to have a mutual understanding of what...reality is. Grass is green, the sky is blue etc. Part of the problem with "Truthers" trying to reason with anyone else is they ask them to first suspend their comprehension of reality.
Thousands of on-the-ground eyewitnesses saw the planes hit.
Did you see the footage in slow motion? Until I saw it I thought they were planes, too. Also how do you explain that nothing from either plane was recovered? How was it that at least parts of the wings did not get sheared off and sent flying back? What other crash scene left no parts for investigation?
This is exactly what I'm talking about. If you think I'm going to argue with a fool as to whether or not all those eyewitnesses saw and dodged the debris raining down on them from the planes hitting those buildings then you're a greater fool than I first took you for.
I can take absolutely nothing from the investigation or everything presented and still know they crashed into them.
So you did not see the footage in slow motion. No prob.
Yes there was building debris everywhere, both towers were pulverized which raises other questions. But that's not the point. What plane debris was found? How do you explain the complete absence of a tire, a door, luggage, a seat, anything.
Apparently there's no such thing as video editing and how much plane debris would you like to see?
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/aircraft.html
But I'm doing what I said I would not do, arguing with a fool and I'm done doing that.
Of course he doesn´t belive it. He´s just angry that peons such as us are not believing.
...but, but, but....there are people that want to kill us. We have their passport! No jet parts, but a passport.
It's OK to question, and to ask others to question, but it's not worth getting worked up about. Yeah, government lies all the time. We are statistically more likely to be murdered by agents of our own government, than a few brown goat herders.
Neither voting, armed revolution, nor arguiing with trolls will fix it. Only by creating a market for voluntary interaction, and refusing to participate in the market based on coercion force, will we accomplish anything meaningful.
Cheney is a pedophile also
7 down votes for that?! Lots of trolls today
The trolls must be on commission. It's over. The 911 attack was a false flag hoax to justify foreign invasions. At this point it's a matter of speculation as to what hit the towers, but more information is always surfacing. Were they small/large planes, piloted/remote controlled, missiles, holographs, etc. The fact that so many trolls are spending valuable time on blogs throwing water indicates that the planners are in a panic. As they should be for what they have done.
I still say 9/11 was a sucker punch attack...that was FULLY taken advantage of by the neo-cons thereafter....
911 was a message alright. The Rothschilds saying to the USA
FUCK YOU investors (Your money is mine now)
FUCK YOU military (explaining 3.2 trillion in missing cash)
FUCK YOU govt (prematurely destroyed before reaching destination)
"I OWN YOU"
Cheney and Bush should be tried for mass murder treason!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9doF_6Sm_4g&list=UUxz5R9YQMRW5QqElbAlMqRw
"Cheney and Bush should be tried for mass murder treason!"
But Obama is A-OK?
Got it.
Come on. The manchurian deserves the same fate as the others. They are all criminal psychopaths that have sold their souls to the dark side.
But he was our evil guy.
I guess evil is no longer PC.
If I were his heart, I'd attack him too..
another hunting accident (somebody shot this bucket full of holes)
The real Cheney wishes he looked that alive!
Speaking of Cheney (re. his former employer):
Halliburton to Trim Workforce, Add $75M Charges in Q4
By Zacks Equity Research (15 minutes ago)
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/halliburton-trim-workforce-add-75m-2155027...
excerpt:
"Oilfield service behemoth Halliburton Co. (HAL) declared at Capital One's annual energy conference that it might book roughly $75 million of restructuring charges in its financial statement during the fourth-quarter of this year. The charges will be related to lay off and streamline operations to suit to the weak crude pricing environment.
The company is expected to cut roughly 1,000 jobs across Europe, Asia, Africa, the Middle East and Australia, effective immediately. The main reason for the head-count cut is the challenging market scenario owing to plummeting oil prices – as reflected in a more than 44% crude price fall since June this year."
took me awhile to get this.
Torture does work, My wife has been using on me for years.
That's just awesome Payne. Nice.
Manny: He's talking about real nipple clamps and a testicle vice. Not sure if you want to go that far.
I have Gmail voice now Angus if you want to call. They say it is free. I still think Canadian geese suck duck at hockey. Fuck it I am just going to call you and tell you that you are wanker.
That was was a fun call. It is always good to talk to other ZHers. Angus is one hell of a great guy.
We pretend drowned some folks.
some folks were cheneyed......
Don Cheney Corleone
The Corleones were never this bad. They did not betray America, and would not likely tolerate anyone among them who would. Michael Corleone running DC would be an improvement.
The bucket will be Cheney when his sentence for treason against the American people, crimes against humanity, and war-crimes is carried out.
An American, not US subject.
Partial to the guillotine. But rope or wall will do just fine as well.
Already convicted
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2012/05/13/war-tribunal-finds-bush-chen...
"Former US President George W Bush, his Vice-President Dick Cheney and six other members of his administration have been found guilty of war crimes by a tribunal in Malaysia."
I tell you what, if I had the wherewithal, I'd arrest all eight of them, and send them to Kuala Lumpur to serve their sentences.
Then I'd come for the rest of them.
An American, not US subject.
Now we know why they were stealing Malaysian jets for their MH-17 psy-op in the Ukraine.
Too bad their plane when flying in international air space cannot be brought down and have them tried in a foreign land for their crimes.
Actually, by way of precedent by the criminals, it can, and has been done.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/edward-snowden-saga-bol...
An American, not US subject.
Our increased technology just screams an advanced Electronic Laser Guillotine (ELG). My guess is POS Chertoffs firm will get the contract. Oh, and what if the head were to drop in to a Super Ninja juicer. Then throw the corpse in to a industrial grade de-hydrator and use it for biofuel.
Man, its been a tough week. This time of year always brings out my dark side.
Lots of USDA approved green dye added.
But Obama the Warmonger/tribalist–race baiter is A-OK? He gets a Free Pass™?
Compared to that jamoke, Cheney is a Boy Scout.
Cheney will be waterboarded in hell, forever and ever. amen.
Anyone down voting this must love the taste of Cheney cock and believe we are much better off due to his. "leadership".... Un-fucking-believable. WTF is going on here, where did these idiots come from?
Or simply reject the notion of hell, or heaven, or whatever the theists throw out there to prevent the persuit of justice.
in a previous life, cheney was a slaver.
edit:
what is up with the downvotes? not feelin' the humour noir?
ok. plain english.
if there is such a thing as infinite reincarnation, and if cheney's former incarnation lived during the pre-1865 era, then it is highly likely that cheney would've been a slave-owner, ordering others to whip other human beings, because he is the kind of psychopath who would point to a legal document claiming that his slaves are his property and that he could do whatever he wanted with them. because he is a FREE (OLD, WHITE) MAN! :-P
what bollocks.
to see how far this country has come, yet how far away from integrity and ethics we still are...
we should be fucking ashamed.
seriously,
is this is as good as it gets for everyone?
(it's a rhetorical question, you don't need to answer)
THIS IS JUST A RIDE!
He would not need to point to some legal document to justify slavery. The Bible is enough.
as opposed to whom? gore? biden? johnson? mondale? what do you want? let's all demand ron paul for president and vice president forever.
We could do worse. In fact, we are now and have been doing worse.
Principle I"Any person who commits an act which constitutes a crime under international law is responsible therefore and liable to punishment."
Principle II"The fact that internal law does not impose a penalty for an act which constitutes a crime under international law does not relieve the person who committed the act from responsibility under international law."
Principle III"The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime under international law acted as Head of State or responsible government official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law."
Principle IV"The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_principles
An American, not US subject.
Replace international law with natural law, and then we're talking.
Replace the legal system with natural law.
The present legal system is far from a system of law.
Legal system = central banking system = big gub = tax for everything = publik skool = poisons offered as 'food' = sickcare system = war on everything = ....
End the fucking charade!
I bet, sometimes you just want to scream!!!
I know I do.
Bastiat might say, "The current system is a system of plunder."
“But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime.”
? Frédéric Bastiat, The La
An American, not US subject.
"You can continue to let them milk you, or kick over their bucket and then kick them in the teeth."
under international law as written by who exactly?
Who wrote it is irrelevent. Our Congress ratified the anti-torture treaties.
And tomorrow they are going to retroactively self-exempt themselves from those laws.
Now what?
There is no such thing as "International Law" except as a class in law school, which is where they will tell you it does not exist.
"There is no such thing as "International Law" except as a class in law school, which is where they will tell you it does not exist."
Good point, but my point is not that so called "international law" has any effect in the American country, but that they are in violation of the ideas behind those four principles.
It also highlights their lie of "rule of law," as they are supposedly subject to "international law."
Really just a point of thought, not necessarily a point of fact.
An American, not US subject.
The power of Christ compells you! The power of Christ compells you!The power of Christ compells you!
Is he gone now?
Damn it!
The power of Christ compells you! The power of Christ compells you!The power of Christ compells you!
It worked on Regan, oughta work on Cheney too.
http://exorcist.wikia.com/wiki/Regan_MacNeil
The power of Christ (whoever he is) must refer to the religion built around his "memory". It is that religion that condones infanticide, torture, murder, slavery, etc. You cannot point to Christianity for any moral high ground. I know, I know, I'm too literal. You were probably joking.
Infanticide, torture, murder, slavery as Christian virtues? What catechism did I go to I'm missing all the fun?
... fucking nazi ...
The Nazi party would have thrown Cheney out for being such an evil fuck.
He deserves to have his pacemaker drop one beat per minute every day.
Since USA Canada and the Ukies voted thumbs up to Nazi fascism I say Cheney 2016 fuker ahead of the curve
Wait. In Hollywood movies and teevees only good guys are tortured by bad guys.
Good point....who controls most of Hollyweird?
So how many ragheads Putin and the FSB burn at the stake today in Chechnya, Dagistan and Ingushetia?
None.
Thanks for bringing up the Chechens, though:
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/12/image-of-day-chechen-volunteer...
Some nice kit - brand spankin' too!
He could have gone by Richard, but instead he was DICK.
hey DICK, how many hours left on that plastic Heart of yours before they have to rip your miserable ass open again? Karma MOFO.
Borrowed time buddy, Borrowed time, and someone is holding a scale and an hourglass.
and someone else is holding a pitchfork
So true that. Wasn't that his 2nd open heart surgery? You know you're in deep shit when your own heart says "get me the fuck out of here!"
Confirmation bias for the depraved.
Possibly the world's worst human being.
You must live in a small and forgetful world.
If he's really human -he may have been human at one time, but he may have sold his soul to Satan and he may even be possessed by a demon that his totally taken control of his body and mind. Have you ever noticed the demonic satanic expressions on his face - you see the same thing with Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle. They almost look like caricatures of satan. Really -watch their facial expressions next time -it's not human.
+100. Not to mention Bush, Pelosi, Feinstien,janet nap and her spanking buddy hillary.
Trips to Behemian grove will do that to people.
Along with hitler, stalin, mao, and Barry 'we droned some innocents' Obama
If reporters are lining up to try an interrogation technique to determine if it's torture then you can be pretty sure it's not torture. I don't see anybody taking a blow torch to their genitalia to determine if it's torture.
I honestly don't understand why ZH goes ape over EITs (torture, if you want to call it that) on non-uniformed enemy combatants that has no right to Geneva Convention treatment. If were fighting a government's army, I might agree, but we are not cutting off heads or limbs. Also, how is droning from a far more moral, especially when there women and children that end up killed as "collateral damage".
Would you all rather have more terrorist fly planes into buildings? Nevermind, you all probably think the US Govt was responsible for 911.
Your television, it beckons.
Good to see we still have at least 4 .gov trolls here giving him a greenie. I thought they were all gone by now.
Anyone buying into the 9/11 narrative is someone to dismiss at face value. Blind, deaf and dumb....among other things.
But he sure plays a mean pinball... no wait
I honestly don't understand how YOU can't wrap your mind around how some of those people could have been innocent. No right to a trial to confirm their innocence. It's just lazy and shoddy. Who cares,right? Just brown people.
The real problem is that none of these people are terrorists- most are completely innocewnt schm ucks -others are freedom fighters defening their homes, culture and religion. the only real islamic terrorsists are Mossad/CIA front groups like Al Quaeda ISIS - and they do our bidding, so there's no reason to torture them.
I would love to give Cheney a few water boarding sessions -I guarantee he would sqeal like a pig and tell us all of the real 911 perpetrators - starting with himself
So what about Islamic agression throughout history? The conquest of the subcontintent of India. They killed millions of Hindus and force converted Pakistan. The marines were created as an answer to Islamic pirates who were slaving and theiving. The Mossad are tricky, so tricky they were in business way before Israel existed.
Giant psyop to attune Americans/Europeans to the idea the govt defines bad/good and enacts judgements that cannot be questioned.
If brains were dynamite, I doubt you could blow your hat off.
Torture is the kind of shit that MAKES people into 'terrorists' - AKA fight back the only way they can.
It's called asymmetric warfare because only one group has a system in control with effectively unlimited funding.
How about 500,000 dead in Irak, what do you expect, US army goes there for no valid reason, without properly declaring war against Irak and then some Americans get decapitated.... duh..? What did you expect.... girls with flowers??? Nothing against US soliders, but the civilian politicians are decerebrated wuss who confuse arrogance with intelligence...
"Nevermind, you all probably think the US Govt was responsible for 911."
More like Mossad, but yeah.
"terrorist fly planes into buildings" ROFLMAO. Man, you are dumb as a box of rocks.
Because it was too difficult? Why is it dumb to believe that a group of terrorists were able to take control of some flying busses? The hard part of flying is taking off and landing, but they didn't plan on doing either of those things. They wanted to fly wings level and hit the broad side of a barn, a huge barn. It was simple enough that I imagine even you could have done it.
Read the material written by military and commercial pilots stating that not even the best of them could do the flying that those planes did that day. Especially not some dumbass ZIA patsies who had a view hours flying Cessnas. But the official narrative was written for a 9-year old intellect which is why you are beholden to it.
Do you really think they want to tell you it's easy. Do you think they want dumbasses like you knowing how simple 9/11 was? You don't even need a few hours in a Cessna, I'll bet flight sim X would do just fine.
"You don't even need a few hours in a Cessna, I'll bet flight sim X would do just fine."
Really? To fly a jumbo jet and take incredible banking turns, all I need is a few hours on Flight Simulator? Wow. ROLFMAO!
Man, you are either dumber than anyone can imagine or a zio-propagandist. Go back to CNN, this topic is light years over your head.
Let me get this straight. You believe it's too difficult to learn how to fly wings level, and yet you believe every incredibly complicated conspiracy theory that you ever heard. I love the nuts here. For the record, I prefer to be called Mr. Mossad agent. Don't make me get my radiation cannon.
Hitting the Mogen-David early today Moshe? Keep it down to one jug. You'll look less ridiculous at temple today.
And do yourself a favor and do some research on what those planes did that day. You'll make less of an ass of yourself.
I know what the God damn planes did. They banked and then got flown into a giant fucking building. You're fucking retarded.
You've done no research on this and thus have proven yourself to be an ignorant shill. So fuck off and hit the jug of Mogen David you swine.
Research regarding how difficult it was for a plane to hit a building the size of a runway? There is no research that needs to be done. I see planes hit runways every day. If you had said that they were actually remotely controlled, well then I can entertain that idea, since they are certainly designed to be nearly autonomous. If you really wanted to be cool then you would have said it was caused by a computer virus. You however want to make flying an aircraft seem as complicated as possible, because then only an organization such as the government could have did it. You're wrong, now go wedge your head right back into Jesse Ventura's ass, where it usually is.
Sober up yet? My comments were based on the assertion that muslim terrorists flew the planes into the WTC. Utter nonsense as has been proven over and over and over and over again to the point where even an active alcoholic like yourself could see. Now, if the commentary was about israeli terrorists flying the planes via remote control, that assertion about terrorists "flying" the planes I would agree with. Stay sober, you'll get smarter that way.
Why don't you at least offer a government study. They want it to appear as complicated as you do, since they don't want the public to realize that just about any nut with a box cutter could have taken over a commercial airliner. Regarding my drinking habits, I may have been drunk last night, but you were retarded. Today I'm sober and you're.......still......retarded.
"Why don't you at least offer a government study"
Are you for real? Have you any idea what you just wrote? A government study to be created by a government that was at minimal complicit with PNAC and the israelis in the attack?
Here's some homework for you:
1. Dump all the alcohol out of your home.
2. Find a local 12-step group and get a sponsor.
3. Research what has been already created, in volumes by professional pilots and others on what happened that day.
4. Stay off of ZH until you have done at least 1 and 2.
LOL.
You know what the width of the world trade center was? 208 ft. You want to know the average width over a commerical landing strip? 200 ft. You're a fucking genius so I'll let you do the math. I will give you a hint. We build landing strips large enough so that aircraft can easily hit them.
Man oh man. Have you actually read anything about the plane's actions that day? Can you read, or are you simply the 9-year old intellect plopped in front of a tv/monitor all day?
It's like Jesse Venture took a shit in your head.
So, we never did ANYTHING like this before Dickhead Cheney came on the scene? Really???
Hopefully 'WE' didn't do anything like this before, but governments have been at it since humans invented agriculture and gave up being hunter-gatherers.
Time to end government.
We did it at least as far back as '95 as John doe #2 was killed while being tortured for info about OKC, and I'm sure long before that. He'll we fucking drone innocent people today. Makes one wonder if sick head Cheney ever left but is still doing his masters bidding.
Cheney gets a heart transplant while kids and teenagers die waiting for one. This shitbag should have his heart cut out and given to someone more deserving
I'm going to put a qualifier on my organ donor card, so something like that never happens to my organs.
Rather die
Promises, promises.
Can you imagine being the recipient of Cheney's heart? I'd want an exorcism as soon as they finished stitching me back up.
Who would want it? His heart must have resembled a shrivelled up walnut, that is why he needed a new one. And why he needs a new one every few years, and a pacemaker in between. He is so evil he cannot have a heart.
NEVER forget that nothing went by Cheney's office... especially keeping Bush in the darkness, which wasn't hard!
Bush knew everything but played the faux`naif that he was. CHENEY ran the WH, just as Alexander Haig ran Reagan's WH!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Yoo and what Cheney and Gonzalas had done to Ashcroft on his near deathbed... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ashcroft
Ashcroft was a hero and discarded like a piece of shit by the Bush/Cheney WH, period!
Gonzalas, Yoo, and Cheney should all be charged as war criminals (ref. *Palestinian Hanger*).
jmo
CHENEY = EVIL ASSHOLE !
its just that simple
9/11 and the Cheney Conspiracy with Michael Ruppert (pt.2/2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW5qiuLb8jY
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Study Suggests Conspiracy Theorists Are More Positive & ‘Sane’ Compared To Conventional Thinkers
December 8, 2014 by Alanna Ketler.
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/12/08/study-suggests-conspiracy...
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9/11 Meet The Press With Dick Cheney NBC September 16, 2001 10:45am - 11:00am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQBsCIaxMuM
Cheney is and was more respected than any of the fuckheads in the current White House staff.
I don't think you are correct, but even if you are, being respected slightly more than a dog turd with mold on it is hardly a recommendation.
"Cheney is and was more respected than any of the fuckheads in the current White House staff."
You're giving the electorate way too much credit here.
More respected by who, pray?
More respected by semi-literate white supremacists?
"More respected by who, pray?"
Probably not your average EBT vegetable.
that may be the central tragedy of it?
Cheney, The Pussy? the one who will not talk without his wife beside him? Cheney had no loyalty to the citizens of the nation he was chosen to preside over, he was a self-described businessman and not concerned about votes. He make money hand over fist, albeit blood and tear drenched. There is a term for this: Prostitution.
Neo-cons just being neo-cons that's all move along there's nothing else to see here. Dick Cheney is the original sociopath's sociopath.
Maybe as a bitter clinger, they'll waterboard me at FEMA camp to find out where my Bible is hidden. That would be so much fun. Just like fucking North Korea kind of fun you know.
we cheney'd some folks.
i like dick
Thats funny if you are writing it from the point of view of Obama, which I think you are?