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Russia Warns May Send Troops To Ukraine After Congress Unanimously Votes To Give Lethal Aid To Kiev
While the market, and America's media, was focusing over the passage of the Cromnibus, and whether Wall Street would dump a few hundred trillion in derivatives on the laps of US taxpayers once again (it did), quietly and unanimously both houses passed The Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014, which authorizes "providing lethal assistance to Ukraine’s military" as well as sweeping sanctions on Russia’s energy sector.
The measure mandates sanctions against Rosoboronexport, the state agency that promotes Russia’s defense exports and arms trade. It also would require sanctions on OAO Gazprom (GAZP), the world’s largest extractor of natural gas, if the state-controlled company withholds supplies to other European nations (yes, the US is now in the pre-emptive punishment business, and is enforcing sanctions on a "what if" basis).
But while one may debate if additional sanctions will do much to impact a Russian economy which is already impaired due to the plunging ruble, the clear escalation is that unlike previously, when the US limited itself - at least on paper - to non-lethal assistance to the Ukraine, now the US is finally preparing to send in weapons, and potentially "military advisors" as well. We say "on paper", because in late November hacked US documents revealed the extent of secret US "Lethal Aid" for the Ukraine army. And since America's under-the-table support for Ukraine's insolvent armed forces has been revealed, there is little point in pretending to keep a moral upper hand (especially in light of recent "other" revelations involving the US, most notably its intelligence services).
And as has happened for the entire duration of the second Cold War, any action by the US was promptly met with a just as provocative reaction by Russia. In this case, a leftist member of the Russian Duma said the US Senate’s decision to arm the Kiev regime should prompt ‘adequate measures’ from Russia, such as deploying military force on Ukrainian territory before the threat becomes too high.
In other words, in addition to the global energy meltdown which is about to send oil exporting nations into a state of shock matched only by owners of US High Yield energy bonds, the Ukraine conflict, which the algos and carbon-based Portfolio Manager forgot about, is about to re-escalate, with Russia now set to recreate the Crimea annexation after it officially sends its troops on Ukraine soil.
“The decision of the US Senate is extremely dangerous. If it is supported by the House of Representatives and signed by their president, Russia must reply with adequate measures,” Mikhail Yemelyanov of the Fair Russia party told reporters on Friday.
“It is quite possible that we should return to the decision by our Upper House and give the Russian president an opportunity to use military force on Ukrainian territory preemptively. We should not wait until Ukraine is armed and becomes really dangerous,” the lawmaker stated.
Yemelyanov also noted that in his opinion the US Senate’s decision to arm Ukraine had revealed that Washington wasn’t interested in the de-escalation of the Ukrainian conflict. He then said that US actions gave him the impression they was seeking to turn Ukraine into some sort of an “international militant targeting the Russian Federation.”
“In a few years Ukraine will turn into a poor and hungry country with an anti-Russian government that will teach its population to hate Russia. They will be armed to the teeth and Ukraine and US reluctance to recognize the Russian Federation within its current borders would always provoke conflicts,” the MP said.
So does this mean that what was a lingering proxy cold civil war in east Ukraine between NATO-armed Ukraine troops and Russia-armed Separatists and local militias is about to escalate into a shooting precursor to something greater? There is still hope an all out escalation can be avoided. From Bloomberg:
White House press secretary Josh Earnest said today that the administration hadn’t finished reviewing the language and isn’t ready to take a position on the legislation. He said the administration wants to ensure that the U.S. and its European allies are working together, that any sanctions are effective and that they minimize harm to U.S. and European companies.
“This is delicate work,” Earnest said.
Did we say "there is hope"? Never mind.
The good news is that preparations for yet another world war are taking place, the US will "prove" it has the moral superiority by offsetting Russian propaganda.... with its own propaganda!
From the last line of the Ukraine Freedom Support Act:
"Directs the Chairman of the Broadcasting Board of Governors to submit to Congress a plan for increasing the quantity of Russian-language broadcasting into the countries of the former Soviet Union in order to counter Russian Federation propaganda. Requires such plan to prioritize broadcasting into Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova by the Voice of America (VOA) and Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty."
Which can only mean one thing: the US is about to flood the airwaves east of the Dnieper river with reruns of Rocky 4 all over again.
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Fly On The Wall Productions:
RECENT DISCUSSION BETWEEN AN OLIGARCH AND A BANK OF INTERNATIONAL SETTLEMENTS SECURITY AGENT
Oligarch:
An entire generation of United States Patriotic Propaganda wasted. We spent billions on that program.
BIS Security Agent:
Yes.
Oligarch:
When did they start to find out?
BIS Security Agent:
One of them I talked to told me he saw The Game when the Banking Committee rolled back mark to market for the banks in 2009.
Another one said he realized it when he understood how HFT algos have been sabotaging the markets.
Any number of moves we’ve been forced to make since the Financial Crisis have been opening up our underlying motivations and actions to a much wider group of older wiser, more mature, thinking Americans.
Many of them understand that we control the United States government and have had experiences with banks and government which are leading them to fortify their personal and business armaments against increasing government control and intrusion.
Oligarch:
Unfortunately, we had no choice but to tip our hand. So the Baby Boomer generation of American Patriots are clued in now.
BIS Security Agent:
Many of them understand that the American markets were never free, open, competitive systems as they were taught in High School and college.
Many of them can now see our moves ahead before we make them.
Some of them are excellent chess players.
Oligarch:
Where does your analysis show most of them investing and placing their assets?
BIS Security Agent:
Most of the ones I’ve been tracking are “High Performance Speculative” types. Driven to succeed and bent on beating the coming chaos they see in markets, politics, and social unrest.
As the economic, political and social climate continues to decay worldwide many of them will be well prepared.
Oligarch:
Focus your efforts on the ones who see the End Game most clearly and monitor them carefully.
How many of them see gold ownership as a part of the End Game?
BIS Security Agent:
Many of them.
Oligarch:
Report back to me after the next Leg Down.
^ WTF is all that?
Whoops..there it is..
As the wrench turns..
As they goad the Russians to do what they don't want to do. at this rate, in a few mths, when the Ruskies have had enough, and they just come out and say they may topple the illegal Kiev regime, what the fuck is nate-to going to do then? bar Russian vodka imports?
There was barely a mention of Israel bombing a threatening (to them) cargo in Syria last week, what a surprise..
Maybe this drop in oil prices is to cushin the shock of something bigger than derivatives blowing up..
This is old news
Obama's NeoZioCons have already been supplying the Ukraine with "Lethal Aid" in the form of IMF loans...
One day in the future our children are going to wonder how, we in the present could be so f***ing stupid to let ourselves be marched right into WWIII?
"Well, football was on", we'll say.
Jesus Christ! I can't believe the times I live in.
Good luck in surviving to everyone reading this.
http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html
the greatest threat to peace is the barrage of rightist propaganda portraying war as decent, honorable, and patriotic
http://www.philiacband.com/propaganda.html
World War 3 is coming, billions will die. Get your house in order.
CON-Gress Actions Deciphered: The World Is WAY Too Peaceful Right Now, We Need Moar WAR...
Lets Prod The 1000 lbs Russian Bear With A Sharp Stick...
Fucking Dangerous STUPIDITY...
Pump up the jam, pump it up.
80% of the Amerikan population is clueless to what's going on and are ineducable until a warhead goes off in their back yard
Much like Fahrenheit 451 I imagine. Constant war is waged abroad but an apathetic, ignorant, and distracted populous pays no mind to it. In the end the bomb that eliminated the entire city didn't even allow for a moment of pause or realization--just obliteration. Eerie.
Well thanks SMG. That wasn't fucking festive at all, was it?
SMG.
One day in the present we hope children are going to wonder how, our great-grandparents in the past could be so f***ing stupid to let themselves be marched right into WWI? All that is heard 100 years later is about the noble sacrifice of the "fallen" (not dead, killed, murdered) troops and lay another poppy wreath.
Never are deeper questions asked about how f***ing stupid the politicians were in 1914. Not many years earlier Queen Victoria was friends with the Kaiser. Yet despite that friendship the world went into a vortex of war. And why? The guaranteeing of borders of remote countries. I mean could such f***ing stupidity occur again 2014? Or is that the f***ing stupid question..?
It's as easy as to stop listening. Just stop, it's not our war, our debt, our choice. Just stop.
Not many years earlier Queen Victoria was friends with the Kaiser.
Hell, they were cousins. Must've made for awkward family get togethers post war........ and yes, our politicians are THAT 'stupid' - though they're NOT 'stupid.'
What you don't realize is that war is 'the' plan - the ultimate distraction from all the looting and destruction that's already occurred.... war provides the ultimate cover-up. They've been pushing for WWIII since Bush - couldn't pull it off with Iran despite their Gulf of Tonkin ploy...er.. Persian Gulf Speedboat ploy.... couldn't get it going over Syria, so now they're trying it over the Ukraine. Problem is that Russia isn't the hollowed out shell that they think.... it's gonna be a LOT messier that some Middle East conflict.
Actually Kaiser Wilhelm II was Queen Victoria´s favourite grandson, since his mother was her daughter.
She actually thought that her grandson was wrongheaded. I'm not so sure that she really liked him.
How many people in Western nations today really know anything about WWI?
The fundamental lack of knowledge which even university graduates display regarding WWI history should be all the proof any thinking man needs to realise that our education system does not exist for our benefit.
Somebody benefits by churning out functionally illiterate and mentally retarded fools. That beneficiary certainly isn't any member of the great unwashed.
http://youtu.be/iaScJhIsVV4?t=58m32s
"If America had minded their own business"
lol!
It's all about pretext.
War in and of itself is a necessary and natural state of things. What is wrong most of the time is the why and who for.
A lot of slanted and disingenuous crap being posted tonight, attempting to cloud specific causes, context, agencies and psychopaths behind current events. Some of the new posters seem highly suspect. How about earning an honest living, you broken-down, degenerate, warmongering shit for brains?
ALL WARS ARE BANKER WARS
POLITICAL PONEROLOGY
+1 for the link to Mike Rivero's "All Wars Are Bankers Wars" - an absolute "must watch" for any sheeple wondering why they can't get ahead
War is a Racket Smedley Butler
Is not natural
Fallen man
WAR IS A RACKET - Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler
Excellent link, Lore - should be perused by all - thank you!
Thanks for that...
Oh, war is natural. When there aren't enough resources to sustain two populations in an area, one will inevetably go to war against the other, but in its natural state, it's much more of a tribal affair, i.e. my trib needs more food and your tribe has better hunting grounds. Today, you have to ask who feels that they are short on "resources," who benefits from gaining the new "resources" and who dies for them?
Nope, but that's what you're supposed to believe. Wherever there is war, you will find patsies puppeteered by psychopaths. They're a subspecies, among us but not like us.
The Prince - Machiavelli
I wonder how the American public will react to the news that the Russians destroyed and sunk two or three US aircraft carrier, for 40 minutes only?
The American public or citizens were sold out last night by Congress, Obama and the people who control them.
American citizens have fewer rights now than illegal aliens. Why anyone would serve these criminals in uniform is beyond me.
This. Well said.
"We" aren't stupid or distracted. "We" (you and I and many others) know what is happening, even if we don't know all the hows and whys. But WTH are we supposed to do, complain to our Congressmen? Yeah that is working out really well these days.
We are screwed!
We are screwed, I agree... The degree of which will be determined by the level of prepardness. I have been on these pages for a number of years (in fact EVERY DAY) even though I rarely comment (mostly because some of ya'll are just so damn smart and can be a little ruthless:), so you will know that I am not on here pimping our site, but felt compelled to comment here because we have attempted to help, in our own way here: http://wchildblog.com/
We would be honored to have any of you along for the ride...
Nice site, thanks for the link!!!
SMG - SteppenWolf, copyright 1928 describes the coming of the inevitable 2nd WW and winges about nothing can be done to stop it!
Albert Pikes prediction for three world wars. http://www.libertyforlife.com/nwo/albert_pike.htm
SMG, this is one of the best pieces of analysis on current geopolitical power structures available without a military clearance. I was meaning to repost it. Thank you.
Nonsense
SMG's posted link is full of ahistorical delusions,
beginning with the insane claim that the collapse of the Soviet Union
was a "ruse", a "masquerade" to implement Russia's long-planned "attack on the West".
You'd be surprised how much ahistorical delusion we believe is fact.
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Yep. Stopped reading as soon as I saw links to net.kook J.R. Nyquist's site.
Congress sold us out on amnesty and giving Obama everything he wanted. What should we expect. They are evil.
Good luck if your kid is in the military. You better get them out before they send them home in a box.
Was interesting reading, but a bit dated.. first thing that sprung out at me was "Russia completely released control of some countries in Europe (Hungary, East Germany, and Poland--although Russia still controls the major opposition in Poland), but has retained secret control of and powerful alliances in Romania, Bulgaria, Belorussia, Ukraine," Yeah right! Furthermore Poland is about as Pro west as can be these days.
I'm from Estonia, which is even more pro west and gung ho towards Russia than Poland. Current government's main opposition party leader has yearly visits to Kremlin which is no secret. You are probably wrong about Poland, too.
If there's one thing you should know about Eastern Europe, then it should be the fact that most of the current politicians are previous Communist Party members (if not former KGB) who in one day turned into eager adherents of capitalism and democracy (with few exceptions of leftists who represent remaining Russian voters) when SU fell. They are POLITICIANS for god's sake.
Politics is always polarized, of course except in the USSA where you have one party like in good old Soviet Union.
+1 Thankyou for the information.
My information re Poland only comes from working with several Poles over the last year on a gas project; Every single one of them is very content on siding with the EU and is happy to distance themselves from Russia as far as possible.
Cheers.
RUSSIAN MILITAIRY OFFICIALS VISITING UKRAINE ON KIEV INVITE HELPING TO FIND SOLUTION FIGHTS
http://youtu.be/rId8J_Ue1os?t=47s
double - glitch (pls delete)
Kiev building a wall to keep Russia out. $517 million cost.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f05_1418579822
The same "americans" backing the criminals in Kiev will do nothing to keep invaders out of America.
Dual citizen Yatsenyuk - is supervising.
I skimmed over it and reminded me of reading about the 'missile gap'. M.A.D still applies.
Blowback by Christopher Simpson explains the origins of the fear of Russian by the US & the massive capability gap between the US & Russia at the beginning of the cold war.
"Lethal Aid" ...sounds like getting the needle in a state prison.
SMG
Your posted link is full of crazy crap,
beginning with the preposterous claim that the collapse of the Soviet Union
was a "ruse", a "masquerade" to implement Russia's long-planned "attack on the West".
Skousen has weird ideas..
imakes up stuff against Russians
I seem remember he was fighter pilot..military
butthurt and keeps Soviet alive mentally
Maybe a time for one nice EMP has arrived?
"Obama's NeoZioCons"
I'd call it NeoZioCons Obama just to be clear about who is issuing the orders to whom.
Western leaders are ZWO puppets running the syndicate client states. They hoist up one drooling eminently blackmailable mascott after another for the donkeys.
The only thing standing between the ZWO and complete western world control is Putin.
The insane clown posse of NeoZioCons would like nothing better than a nuclear war with the US and Russia because the chaos would give the pathological bastards more power.
The ZWO and their central bank syndicate are the destroyers. They have been behind every major conflict since the battle of Waterloo and probably before that, usually funding both sides because they win either way.
They are making the mistake of thinking Putin is as venal and stupid as the Western politicians. He knows who is funding and controlling the Nazi death squads in Ukraine in an attempt to create a land free of people in the east.
Well.....don't get the best Vodka already
RODNIK Samara Brewery
get the lesser with the terrible markup though, cos US exceptional
Well, although technically I'm supporting "The Opposition", Nemiroff or Soyuz Victan are pretty good, particularly SV Supreme (though Nemiroff Admiral is pretty awesome too!)
Both brands are VERY difficult to find in the West, as are the numerous flavoured vodkas Russia and Ukraine are famous for. Pity really, since you used to be able to buy the miniatures at ANY corner shop in Ukraine, and in Russia, no matter how small the town.
Russian Standard vodka is the best brand priced without a premium.
Russia doesn't have a choice. The US gov't has installed puppet governors in every eastern Ukraine city. Putin has said time and time again, the only thing that he will not abide is violence against the citizenry of Ukraine in the east.
The governors are billionaires that are attempting to thwart the on the ground activities of the freedom fighters to maintain their independence from Kiev. Almost all of Eastern Ukraine relates to Russia, not the EU. The set up is untenable in that there will be massive loss of life in eastern ukraine as the rule of Kiev is forced upon them unless the western gov't recognizes their right to self determination. Putin will not allow this to happen. I'm sure the sick fucks in the White House will choose to wipe out eastern ukrainians in their quest to control the region (for whatever sick purposes they have in mind).
You compose this months ago and just now decide post it?
already happened...
Damn, I knew I forgot something!
Russian nuclear missiles are not aware about US exceptionalism.
But the inhabitants of heaven in the White House do not understand this.
Game Over.
Israel’s Secret Plan for a "Second Israel" in UkraineMight as well toss in the live grenade on this one.
In 2013 Dr. Eran Elhaik of Johns Hopkins University published a study which conclusively determined that European [Ashkenazi] Jews have exactly zero Semitic DNA [they are not Semites], and are in fact Khazar’s [origin modern day Georgia/Ukraine], who converted to Judaism around 800 AD.
So this explains the ZWO affinity for Ukraine.
Furthermore, if you think about it, this revelation is roughly equivalent to the discovery that the earth actually orbits the sun, causing a few burnings at the stake and a revision of the manual.
Yup, it is clear that lots of people converted to Judaism in the past.
turkish mongols .
some say "Red" Khazars came to Ukraine from the south (now turkey, georgia, etc)
interestingly, ancient maps show Gog, Magog those lands..
and Genesis 10 mentions Askenaz son of Gomer, nephew of Magog
Very interesting.
The major point I was alluding to was that ostensibly the reason for the construction of modern day Israel was so that the semites could return to their homeland which was given to them by a god [something like that].
Now however it has been scientifically proven and peer reviewed by one of the worlds leading geneticists [who is himself Ashkenazic origin] that Ashkenazi Jews [all european origin] are not semites.
This makes the actual truth a bit dangerous to some well entrenched interests.
So someone has a lot of explaining to do. Maybe a major re-write is even in order. Hopefully Dr. Eran Elhaik won't receive the same treatment as did Giordano Bruno who was burned at the stake for suggesting that the earth revolved around the sun.
Good stuff. Check out Prof. Shlomo Sand.
http://www.amazon.com/Invention-Jewish-People-Shlomo-Sand/dp/1844676234
Years ago, I used to go over the population genetics studies on Wikipedia to deny the Khazar origin of Ashkanaz and point out the logical fallicies, but the Hasbra-Hit-Squad guarding the sensetive areas of Wiki would always destroy the Truth.
Well...I know Putin or his followers read this.....and I know that Obama and all of his shit fucks around him read zero hedge...How can they not? They want to post, and respond to things like I am about to say...but they can't. Imagine Putin or Obama or their likes caught in an cyber hack that they are posting on Zero Hedge...HAHA..that would be awesome. That being said. I have some words for Obama. We see what you are doing. We know what you are doing...you are trying to take us right into a disaster, as you have during your entire presidency..(If you can call it that) Why do you want to always kick the hornets nest....Obama and administration either has to be the dumbest fucks on this planet or there is an entirely secondary agenda that I can't figure out.
Now Putin....and people below him reading this. Get the message to him. We the people of America do NOT WANT THIS. The Average American has NO CLUE to what is going on. The few that do....the people here on Zero Hedge want NOTHING to do with what our elected officials are doing. Who the hell wants war?? Not us?? Our government steals from us via taxes...and spends this money on bullshit like this. The madness has to stop. I really hope that somebody of importance, and one who cares can get this to Putin. Our leaders are a disaster....I as an American am ashamed of what they do. Merry Christmas. Hope it is not a hot one....like say a (In the Dumb and Dumber voice.) thermo nuclear kind.
"Why don't cha eat up and we'll tell ya" Classic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCFuM9U7gso
Look Obama can read this but he is not allowed to respond by his AIPAC handlers. The tribe even mocks their Uncle Tom in their private emails, like we saw Amy Pascal Chairwoman of SONY Pictures do. The man gets no respect from the Tribe. They even get the message across to him that he is not untouchable with the two recent White House break ins. Just a message that someone can get very close to him at any time. What can one scrawny kid from Chicago do against a well oiled political and criminal organization full of dual citizens.
I agree Cosmo, but its one scrawny kid from Kenya.
Then if you American don't want war, stop voting for those warmongering fucker be it Republican or Democrat.
Uh....... we "don't'" vote for these fucks. They're placed in office.
All three branches do WHAT THEY'RE TOLD. If they don't they are "ended" as a lesson to others.
The US government is CONTROLLED on every level. "The People" are just along for the ride.
(Someone needs to pull a rail. The crash will be spectacular and the result horrendous. It has to be done to shut this mother down.)
Voting for the Democrats or Republicans is like voteing for a two headed snake, It doesen't matter witch head you vote for, you get the same snake.
All Putin needs to do is stand for delivery at the Comex and LME for every ounce of gold they have left.
Next, a rolling cascade of defaults, printing press seizure and the ZWO ponzi scheme folds up like a cheap carnival operation.
You have the right idea, but not via Comex/Crimex. Any Crimex "winner" will be paid off in fresh clown-bux.
They already looted all of Ukraines gold reserves, so now it's safe to start world war three.
Speechless in Bunker
Stay warm with free (slightly used) nuclear fuel.
All I know is that long ago, this too was known; "for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."
The modern version of which is: "Don't poke the Leviathan in the eye with a sharp stick because he'll bite back."
Or also in diplomatic terms; "Fuck the EU"
Only a few minutes ago we were talking about "nothing this crazy been done in a while"
Just when ya think its safe to get back onto the water, huh?
Y'all know, if Angelina Jollie had tits she wouldn't have gotten chicken pox and all this shit wouldn't have happened.
Don't fuck with vlad, don't give none to brad.
But Lord won't you buy a mercedes benz.
So after six years of posing, preening and scratching ass, we finally have a foreign policy,
and it is, replay the cold war?
This isn't Ground Hog Day. It's more like Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.
Mayhaps time for the olde Al Haig trick of not letting Uknowho near the magic football?
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Some Creative Shit, huh?
Is there anyone we should trust less than Obola? And he ain't looking all that chipper lately.
They just went through a purge of several close aids who were not "with the plan."
Why does that not fill my heart with joy?
Well the GOP just sold America out along with the Dems on Obma's amnesty. The evil is in Wash DC.
The GOP didn't just sell America out. That happened long, long, long, looooooong ago.
Were like the Brooklyn bridge.
We get sold again, and again, and again...
It doesn't matter if they never owned us, as long as they get paid.
More like we got Lucy'ed with the goddamned football again. Vote for us and this time we promise not to pull the football away...
They hate us for our freedom.
And we thought we voted out the Neocons. He, he, he. JOkes on us. We needed to "vote" out the CIA.
> Speechless in Bunker
Only if Dear Leader has no ready access to a teleprompter! I'm sure his taxpayer-provided IPhone will do the job nicely.
As for those who voted for further machinations of war - may I suggest that we have a general rule that if you vote to escalate a coflict (that does not directly threaten your Homeland) your vote will also require you to enlist for a period of compulsory Infantry service (and not Mechanised Infantry - I'm thinking of the good old Foot Soldier Infantry).
Maybe the resulting certainty of spending time on the Front Line might temper the desire to send others to an early grave.
You don't know that mechs make more attractive targets for arty?
With modern weaponry, usually a pretty sudden death, and yes I'm very aware that the "heavy stuff" is a choice target, owing to the damage it can cause if left "unmolested" !!
The foot soldier idea is based on "them" having to deal with real hand-to-hand combat, probably against a very highly-motivated opponent.
Add in the extra requirement of a personal videocam, with direct streaming "back home" - and their electorate can see just "how well their warmonger Politicians fare" in the war THEY created.
THAT alone would be a major reminder of the sheer brutality of any war, particularly an unnecessary one, and maybe a REAL disincentive to wage war full stop.
(I'd be claiming my Nobel Peace Prize right now for this suggestion. Why not? Obama was awarded one for no better suggestion, and I PROMISE not to "drone you Bro" ;-) )
Where my family and I live in the North of England, we are well fucked. We have 10+Military bases within 20 mile radius of my house, "BUT" If I saw Obama , Mcain ,Hillary,Netinyahu,Cameron Blaire, strung by their neck from a lamp post, I would die a happy man. ps I don't blame Vlad !!
Obama had plenty of time to go on ESPN yesterday morning, but he's "still studying" the situation in Ukraine?
We're going to have WW III because Obama is paying more attention to Oregon State vs. Florida State than Ukraine vs. Russia?
The problem is that once you start a nuclear attack, it can not be canceled or suspended. After this command, all the missiles will start to their targets until you reach the last missile.
How nice for Russia to provide some heat to poor Ukraine.
Vlad. The best defense. Is a good offense. ..... it's time to go
For Vlad, a 'good offense' is shrinking currency reserves, shrinking oil prices and a deep recession.
So yes, he's ready for a lengthy war of attrition.
Vlad is looking East. Vlad (and Xi Jinping) have their own agenda. Whilst historically they may have been unhappy bedfellows, China knows full well that if Russia falls, they will be next for "Democratisation" the American way (along with the other members of the BRICS Alliance).
So, it's not just Russia you're picking a fight with, but China too.
Wonder why Russia bought all that gold recently . . . . . . .
This is a conflict Russia MUST win, so Russia WILL win, and they WILL fight to the very last man.
If that "win" means the obliteration of the West, with subsequent obliteration of life as we broadly know it Globally - that will be what will happen.
Don't worry, Russian prefer to "suffer" from inflation and eventually a war than to be submitted by the West. A thing that neo-con and some "patriot" here are unable to understand...
Of Course I don't even speak about China who are in same rational, they haven't forgotten the opium war and the British rule.
Yes. The people who gave Russia communism control America, Europe, UK, Australia, NZ and other areas. They are the same people who looted Russia again with the oligarchs.
Putin then threw the oligarchs out but they want back in to rob and loot Russia more. BTW - this is the same evil who is behind Congress and Obama in selling out Americans to illegal aliens. Same dual citizens.
The Russian people need to understand who Putin is trying to protect them from. Just ask the Ukrianians how their lives have changed for the worse.
Parrota-asshole
"If that "win" means the obliteration of the West, with subsequent obliteration of life as we broadly know it Globally - that will be what will happen."
Hey fuckhead I think you have a little syntax problem there "that will be what happen" lol
time for a different transating software putz
Thats a fantasitc strategy you fucking moron...
"yeah were gonna win but everyone dies"...fuck you
You fucking ass hole douche bag, I have news for you bring it mother fucker...the US will stick that stoli bottle up your collective russian ass then light on fire, then nuke it
You really have no idea, do you?!
Obviously he / she / it has no idea that I'm AUSTRALIAN!! (i.e., NOT Russian!!) Also - not a fan of Soyuz Stolichnaya, rather Soyuz Victan (Horilka Ykrainska - see above)
Mind you, Brother in Law IS Russian, and a useful source of non-Western propaganda. Our mis-informed commentator might be rather surprised at the increasingly rabid anti-West message being circulated via the editorials of the non-English translation regional presses, where Putin is seen as being "far too moderate" . . . . .
We would all prefer a non-Nuclear end to this, BUT - America and the "West" started the ball rolling, and seem dead keen to get "their" result. Ain't gonna happen.
Russia CANNOT and WILL NOT back down. They have clearly seen the damage a "lets be friends with the West" policy had on their economy in the VERY recent past, and the clear tendency of the West to only honour agreements when it suits the West to do so ("no Eastward expansion of NATO" being the cherry on that particular cake!). Unlike Obama, Putin does not mince words. He has very clearly stated Russia's intentions, and will carry these intentions through.
Finally - re the moniker - nuke ISIS now Seems OK to obviously promote the idea of the US "nuking" others, but not so keen on others "returning the compliment". Sure sign of "American Exceptionalism" - the exceptionalism that's got us ALL into the present state of affairs.
shouldn't have admitted brother in law...
give his mentality excuse for another outburst
Brother in Law works for a EUROPEAN Bank too (one that's not been "Sanctioned" - yet ;-)) ).
That alone will be enough to rile a certain person even more I suspect ;-))
Tell your brother in law to stay away from nail guns and other power tools.
Imbecile
"he she it has no idea tht im australian, but i have a brother in law who is russian..lol...fucking idiot
Guess what US will not back down either, so whats we gonna do..
so under your theory the US is supposed to just cower while the great almighty Putin dictates what that shithole country does and the fuck with everyone else...yasureokfine...yea so i guess its the US Tthat is flying regular nuclear bomber runs over and near NATO territory..yessiree nothing says diplomacy like threating a good nuclear bombing of Europe
You think because of that fucking moron in the whitehouse is weak that al of the US is weak also? think again fuckstick
monicker does not say US nuke ISIS does it ? maybe i missed that?
You sound like a Kike.
you sound like you suck dick
Why bring your dads into this matter?
he is not Russian
you mistaked, goat
stupid is as stupid does
fuck you Volkdav..you and the rest of your fucking Russian propagandists here on this site... what the fuck is it with you inbred retards all posting here?
"you mistaked"? what the fuck kind of statement is tht fuckhead? newsflash for all you fucks the trnslating software aint cutting it anymore
Ill bet you are one of the many hypocrites that critisize the US, but yet fled that shithole country Russia to live in America..
Douche bag
You sound like a angry Kike.
you sound like an angry dick sucker
you sound like a gay sadist - you must be a cop
wow...you really are a bad Omen
...your Angliski really bad..
you have no idea who I am
And you have no idea who i reall am, so ho the fuck cares?
" NO, everyone dies, It's a draw" "FUCKHEAD"
Billions will die, all thanks to the NWO.
If billions die, everyone dies. Spent fuel pools without infrastructure and maintenance will light up and end higher life on earth.
Not everything dies. Definitely not the elite.
And we will all go together when we go.
Ev'ry hottenhot and ev'ry eskimo.
When the air becomes uranious,
And we will all go simultaneous.
Yes we all will go together
When we all go together,
Yes we all will go together when we go.
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"When the most wicked member of the tribe becomes its ruler,
and the most worthless member of a community becomes its leader,
and a man is respected through fear of the evil he may do,
and leadership is given to people who are unworthy of it,
Expect the Day of Judgement"
Why Billions, if Millions will do. Just gotta pick the right places: The ones that have fermented war for centuries -- with real and symbolic value. Need only a small fraction of the Arsenal to do that.
And then you ask the shit-disturbers if they've had enough or of they need more.
Policymakers on the other side seem more sophisticated, having outgrown hammer-to-nail problem solving. Our best hope to avoid catastrophe is to take power away from psychopaths. We see that already through chatter on various blogs indicating a shift in sentiment and removal of the old guard from some of the usual outlets, mainstream media 'lip service' and bullshit smokescreens for mass consumption notwithstanding.
Historically, the most obvious way to take power away from a warmonger is to undermine his energy security and means of financing. Isn't that exactly what we see today, through the falling price of crude (undermining economic viability of the bullshit 'shale oil miracle') and so-called De-Dollarization? Together, aren't these a recipe for warhawk emasculation and an impediment to foreign "adventurism?" In this and other globalist theatres, time is on our side: the longer current trends continue, the more the NeoCons and their ilk will find themselves immobilized and obsolete, incapable of responding to new domestic and international realities. In the words of Martha Stewart, "It's a good thing."
A huge Military and a money printing press means you can raise a lot of Hell everywhere you want to go.
The only limitation is if the other guy is better at Hell-raising than you.
Know thy enemy. The psychopaths are well understood. Putin isn't that hard to understand either. He's using their own pathology against them. "Raising hell" just accelerates the process OF THEIR OWN destruction. The American people are so indoctrinated that they cannot overcome their might-makes-right, my-way-or-the-highway, hammer-and-nail conditioning. When collapse comes, they will turn to the very psychopaths responsible for their hardship for leadership, completely misconstruing the causes and preventing proper reform, allowing everything to become much worse than necessary.
I see it clearly because I worked for a psychopath before and watched him destroy a formerly prosperous organization. The human cost was terrible. People died. It could all have been avoided if the psychopath was simply removed from power, but all the executive and managers were under his spell. Look up the term Learned Helplessness. The psychopath ran the organization into the ground, and now I hear he's at it again with another group of sheep.
Snakes In Suits: When Psychopaths Go To Work
You know what the difference is between US military doctrine and Russia?
US military doctrine contains the notion of "unacceptable damage".
Russian military doctrine contains no such thing. For Russia, any damage will be acceptable, for the sake of destroying the enemy.
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All US weapons intended for the war against the underdeveloped countries. That is, against Papuans.
All weapons Russia has a different concept. All weapons Russia originally intended for the war against the United States.
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US and NATO soldiers are not willing to die for Ukraine.
But the Russian soldiers ready to die for Ukraine. Because they know and understand that they protect Russian populations from genocide.
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US spent four years for preparing and arming Saakashvili's army by NATO standards. Russians took only two weeks to defeat this "made in NATO" army Saakashvili.
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In any non-nuclear war in the Ukraine, the United States guaranteed to get the crushing defeat from the Russian army. This new US defeat in Ukraine will be much more disastrous for the US than the US defeat in Vietnam.
Yea, seems that history teaches us that where the countries were faced with direct confrontion (Cuba), Russia backed down like the cunts you all are
The more you know
You sound like an ignorant Kike. Russia(Soviet didn't back off). US backed off by not deploying missilies in Turkey.
Flat out wrong!
the nuclear missles in cuba were a response by USSR to US missles in Turkey - JFK agreed to take them out and USSR responded in kind. also US agreed to never invade Cuba again under the terms of that agreement which they complied with
Ukraine has elements of that confrontation - with US missles intended for/ being deployed on the border and Russian response will be to move the line
same thing happened in Korea with MacArthur - 51'- US false flag set up with Sigmund Rhee - PM S Korea - forays into North Korea and then a response by N Korea - MacArthur uses pretext to invade - goes to Manchurian border sees 600,000 Chinese and they chase him back to the 38th parallel where USA is there TODAY!
US loses 50,000 - 2.5 million Koreans - US unloaded Napalm and Jelly Gasoline bombs on villages
US takes flyers and the world has done the scatter diagram and lined up the game plan since WWII and knows how to respond
so yo think Russia would have "voluntarily" not moved forward with Cuba, If Kennedy didnt call out Russia? seriously
The propaganda is really getting watered down
You just confuse cause and effect. This is an effort to substitute concepts, which is part of the technique dirty propaganda.
No isil scum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2QS-zTWDxo
Hey fuckhead listen of the description of your lying hypocritical Russian Government, then when push cme to shove? Russia blinked, just like they will do now
Ignorant Fool - the data is easy to find - so you must have a learning disability
how about in addition to Cuba - look up Korea the game plan is laid out in 1951 - all the same - USA lost with their top General in charge against the Communist Chinese.
US lost against the Communist Vietnamese - same false flag game at Gulf of Tonkin - General Westmorland lost like MacArthur
US foray in Iraq another multiple trillion $$$ fiasco
US entry into Afganistan - more trillions - no mass - now leaving town !
How did that Afghnan excursion work out for mother Russia? oh yea...thts right you got mother fucked
You sound like a Kike projecting too much
You sound like an angry vodka n word, who is a fucking douche bag to boot
You're lying, because Russia has not waged war against Afghanistan.
The Soviet Union in Afghanistan fought against the entire Western world and entire Muslim world together.
Nobody helped the Soviet Union in the war in Afghanistan.
Today the United States make war against Afghanistan, together with the entire western world. And the US is losing this war.
What do you think would happen if Russia will supply to Afghanistan of their MANPADS, their anti-tank missiles, their military advisers and their intelligence data?
In this case, the US can not even just to take out the bodies of their soldiers from Afghanistan.
Your ignorance is outstanding. Cuba happened because the US placed missile systems in Turkey. Both Kruschev and Kennedy were afraid of what their military would do so Krushchev proposed a deal. Russia would withdraw from Cuba if the US withdrew from Turkey. Kennedy accepted the deal with one proviso, namely, that in order to maintain political cover, Russia would have to appear to have blinked and there would be no mention of the exchange involving Turkey.
It's all in the recently released Kennedy archives.
"proposed a deal" only after the blockade...right? you seem to miss tht point
You sound like a God's chosen Kike.
what are you fixated on Israel? What are you afraid of? fucking dick sucker?
No, not after blockade, but after lunch.
US put its missiles first.
USSR forced the United States to remove this missiles, via their missiles as military response.
It is a historical fact.
Everything else is just your opinion and speculation.
Yes that video of Kennedy challenging you cunts was speculation...lol
Russia = no balls...all talk no action...fucking joke.......just ask Afghanastan...lol