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Up To 40 Hostages In Sydney Financial District Coffee Shop, Jihadists Suspected; US Consulate Evacuated - Live Feed
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"We have moved to a footing of a terrorism event," -NSW Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione http://t.co/Df7F4ALUsd pic.twitter.com/XUFumKXDYi
— NBC News (@NBCNews) December 15, 2014
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Only weeks after Australia broke up a plan by ISIS to publicly behead a member of public, reports suggest 2 gunmen are holding 13 hostages at a Lindt coffee-shop in Sydney, Australia. The terrorists have shown a black jihadist flag - which is not an IS flag - and has paraded the hostages at the windows. The coffee shop is directly across the street from the Reserve Bank of Australia.
- *LINDT AUSTRALIA CEO STEVE LOANE SPOKE BY PHONE
- *LINDT AUSTRALIA: PROBABLY ABOUT 30 CUSTOMERS IN SYDNEY CAFE
- *LINDT AUSTRALIA: ABOUT 10 STAFF WORKING IN SYDNEY CAFE TODAY
*ABBOTT SAYS INCIDENT IS `VERY DISTURBING'
*ABBOTT: URGES AUSTRALIANS TO GO ABOUT BUSINESS AS USUAL
Here's a transcript of the Prime Minister's press conference on #SydneySiege #MartinPlaceSiege pic.twitter.com/UjX25PbCg8
— Adam Todd (@_AdamTodd) December 15, 2014
- *RESERVE BANK OF AUSTRALIA STAFF LOCKED DOWN IN SYDNEY HQ: CNBC
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Statement from Prime Minister Tony Abbott on Sydney hostage situation. pic.twitter.com/MHkNRZFQWB
— Simon Cullen (@Simon_Cullen) December 15, 2014
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- 943 am local, woman spots a man with a blue bag carrying a gun going into the Lindt coffee shop in Syndey.
- 13 hostages held
- Sydney Airspace NOT closed - flightsdiverted
- *SYDNEY OPERA HOUSE EVACUATED: BBC
Sydney Opera House evacuated after police found suspicious package. Ongoing hostage situation in Lindt Cafe Martin Pl pic.twitter.com/fKUhKlHV1Z
— Lochie White (@LochieWhite) December 15, 2014
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Hostages were being held inside a central Sydney cafe where a black flag with white Arabic writing could be seen in the window, local television showed on Monday, raising fears of an attack linked to Islamic militants.
Australia, which is backing the United States and its escalating action against Islamic State in Syria and Iraq, is on high alert for attacks by radicalized Muslims or by home-grown fighters returning from fighting in the Middle East.
Part of Martin Place, home to the Reserve Bank of Australia, commercial banks and close to the New South Wales (NSW) state parliament, was closed off by armed police.
Live television footage showed patrons inside a cafe standing with their hands pressed against the windows. A black and white flag similar to those used by Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria was also visible.
NSW Police tweeted: "A police operation is underway in Martin Place, Sydney's CBD. People are advised to avoid the area."
Dozens of police including a SWAT team were setting up and a couple of hundred people were being held back by cordons.
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LIVE coverage of Sydney Hostage crisis now on @Channel7 #sydneysiege pic.twitter.com/dRZSp5EDwW
— Peter Doherty (@PeterDoherty7) December 15, 2014
BREAKING PHOTO: One of the terrorist in Sydney cafe hostage situation. pic.twitter.com/m554kLGiIf
— Breaking News (@NewsOnTheMin) December 15, 2014
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— Zaid Benjamin (@zaidbenjamin) December 14, 2014
This is the flag being used at the #MartinPlace siege. It's a jihadist flag, but it's not the IS flag. pic.twitter.com/ijgluFfEHe
— Merry Christodoulou (@tim_chr) December 14, 2014
SYDNEY SIEGE: Gunman forces hostages to hold up ISIS flag in window http://t.co/9K3XXEiSFa pic.twitter.com/cATxCjYXpy
— Daily Mail Australia (@DailyMailAU) December 14, 2014
Australia Siege in central Sydney - live feed http://t.co/GqEGERjMui pic.twitter.com/hkPsLz4caC
— ForexLive (@ForexLive) December 14, 2014
BREAKING UPDATE: A gunman reportedly holding up to 20 hostages in cafe in downtown #Sydney ISIS flag visible. pic.twitter.com/b6Pvrdz9XL
— ???s (@H0XH4) December 14, 2014
UPDATE: Heavy SWAT and @NSWPolice presence at Martin Place, as siege at the Lindt Café continues. #9News pic.twitter.com/aL4kPbmsFl
— Nine News Sydney (@9NewsSyd) December 14, 2014
Terrifying photo of hostages in Martin Place in Sydney, being held by men waving an ISIS flag pic.twitter.com/6ozBRQVNlG
— Tom Steinfort (@tomsteinfort) December 14, 2014
LIVE: Hostages held in siege in #Sydney , #Australia - #ISIS http://t.co/aEZiCyPLjK pic.twitter.com/3VTCFg0YXt
— Hotpage Business (@HotpageBusiness) December 15, 2014
HAPPENING NOW: Flights Scramble To Avoid #Sydney Airspace #martinplace @JakeSturmer http://t.co/wTO5RzOWe0 pic.twitter.com/BG1rTtsViH
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) December 15, 2014
BREAKING PHOTO: Gunmen take hostages at Sydney cafe, wave Islamic flag http://t.co/zmSo3ARDVs pic.twitter.com/z0qXKdiCnM
— PzFeed Top News (@PzFeed) December 15, 2014
As we have noted previously...
At least 20 are believed to have returned to Australia and pose a security risk, the head of the national spy agency said last week.
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The RBA? It was probably one of the Limerick King's passages relating to central banking written in Arabic on that flag
If foreigners invaded my country, occupied it for 13 years, murdered my family, friends, and neighbors, and installed a puppet government, then I might do someting like this, too...or worse.
http://www.ted.com/talks/sam_richards_a_radical_experiment_in_empathy
America has been occupied for 101 years and you have not done a god damn thing about it.
"The coffee shop is directly across the street from the Reserve Bank of Australia."
Silly Jihadists got the wrong target!
This would not have happened if the citizens were armed.
The Aussies are quite practical, and extremely well-traveled....they'll reverse the gun ban if this ends badly.
Don't count on it...
Yeah, I know but they're still our brothers, they're entitled to a few mistakes...I mean "we" elected Obama...twice...lol. Now see if this was Russia, they'd gas the place, knock EVERYONE unconscious and then go in and shoot the SOB jihadists in the head.
As it stands now with PC, they'll give them a million bucks and a plane ticket where they can do it somewhere else.
Good thing Aussies can't carry concealed weapons or the ISIS hostage takers might have gotten hurt or killed. /sarcasmoff
A lot of you have mistaken what Aussies are actually like. Most of the real Aussies are actually 100% against this whole Zionist dogpile of insanity and the obviously US funded ISIS idiots.
Most Aussies actually know what the rest of us here know already. They just keep quiet about it.
How's that keeping quiet working out for the hostages?
It won't end with many of them being alive, that's for sure.
Putin knows how to deal with them and I can guarantee you that operations are underway in Chechnya in response to last week's episode that would make the average American or Aussie piss their britches. As the Russians close in on the terrorist leaders, men, women, and children will begin losing body parts, including internal organs until the family members involved spill the secrets. Then the Russians will carpet or fuel-air bomb the responsible village off the map.
The best way to deal with Islamist terrorists is to kill them. It cuts down dramatically on repeat offenders.
Because being a hostage is a normal state of life.. HERP DERP. None of you can apparently think out your arguments.
How could this terrorist attack happen, I mean the NSA monitors all communications etc for the sake of our protection. These mofos want terrorists attacks to happen, it means more power for them and greater ability to flush our rights down the toilet. If people were allowed to carry guns these mofos would be dead already, and by mofos I mean those of either side of the aisle.
Is that the same Aussie soldier outside the cafe as this one occupying Afghanistan?
Nice to see that photo at a bit of a different angle, but then your mind is already completly made up isn't it.. Wonder how you got right to publish and why?
If those were your kids, and your village, then would you really care about the camera angle?
YOUR DAMN RIGHT I WOULD, YOU SCUMMY GOEBBEL PROPAGANDIST THAT GUN MAY NOT BE POINTED ANYWHERE NEAR THAT LITTLE GIRL BUT YOUDON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THAT. THAT BEING THE TRUTH
The photo is from an Australian newspaper. Any interpretation involving the the children is entirely your own.
"Is that the same Aussie soldier outside the cafe as this one occupying Afghanistan?"
Isn't that a cute little phrase by HH, the interpretation is entirely mine now as well as the narrative I'll bet. Did little HH get caught doing something bad and desperately needs to dig himself out? I know, blame it on the guy who caught ya.
You and the hard left Aussie (care to name it paper) win Goebbels...
Buddy, the point is, regardless of the interpretation of the photo, that Aussie cunt shouldn't be there and deserves to be blown to bits. I am an aussie. We are not supposed to be fucking invaders of other countries regardless of how they treat their woman. What the fuck don't you understand about that.
Australian Defence Force my fucking ass. We are lap dogs of THE MOST DANGEROUS COUNTRY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. THE FUCKING US.
Every US, Australian and Brirish soldier killed in Iraq, Afganistan, Syria etc is a good thing for the world as it is one less imperialist to wreak havoc on innocebt people.
Muslims will sing to your glory over your grave, after sawing your empty fucking head off with a dull blade. You of course will be smiling and giving praise to Allah till the breath leaves your head.
Oldwood,
Shalom.How is kosher pizza in telaviv?
Same shit different desert?
Kill 'em all. Every single fucking one of them. Will there be collateratal damage? yep.
We're at a cross-roads, "folks'. Unfortunately, because of our scumbag, treaonous president and CON-gress, the world, has gone out of control. And this was their plan all along
So I'd say wipe them out. Wipe them all out. Use our military to overthrow our treasonous, criminal, anti-Constitutional, sickening "government", and start our Republic over again.
These gov-scum, MIC-scum, and intel-scum, are just that...SCUM. Traitors. Userpers. Sick piecese of shit.
Do you think these sociopath fuckers give a fuck about any of us?????? NOPE.
Total psychos.
Sorry Australia, but you've been complicit in following the great satan. It's your turn now. War is hell.
So is anyone keeping count on the number of terrrurist attacks since the "war on terrorism" started?
Oh goodness. This is the kind of article that brings out the true dipshittery here. Everyone thinks they are the rightest righteous cunt aroud.
It's not hard being better than clueless dipshits who watch monkeys throw balls all day. I wonder how many stratergerists at the pentagram that includes.
I think it's fucking hilarious that some guy or guys with an Islamic flag can take some hostages and all of a sudden it's terrorism and even the otherwise seemingly smart people here on ZH start tearing each other apart over this shit.
It's some fucking guy with a flag, guys. For fuck's sake. So some guy with a flag with islamic writing took some hostages, so let's all kill each other fighting over what to do about it. We are completely fucked.
What does the flag say Rand? "hey how ya doin?"
No clue what it says, but I'm pretty sure any guy who speaks arabic could create it.
I'm hanging in there, missing the old days of ZH though.
You don't exactly have to walk into a recruiting office or back-room to join a cause these days. Even so, I really don't care whether it's real or not. I just like to remind (if no one but myself) how much BS the “wur on terrrurrism” is.
everyones talking about political motives.... maybe it was just really bad coffee
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FUCK ME THIS IS GETTING HARD TO READ SOMEBODY PLEASE POST ON ANOTHER PAGE PLEASE!!!
I will neither fuck you nor post on another page.
What a sewer this place has become.
First of all.....don't those terrorists know you're not suppose to have guns in Australia?
When this thing is over....we're gonna have to sit them down and have a stern talk with them.
The Aussies use to be men of thunder from the land of under....not so much these days.
How so, they are in the Middle East, I am here.
You are eating up the mainstream propoganda like a kid eats candy.
Yumm!
So you really think they are not coming here?
So you really think they are not already here?
So your plan is to run out into the street and greet them, bowing in subservience and recognition of their moral superiority?
I'm not going to argue right and wrong, simply survival. Self hatred and guilt are fine after a night on the town but will not serve you well in this instance.
The point is that these guys wouldn't even be holding hostages if it weren't for the meddling and aggression of the US/Israel and their lackeys in the MENA. And yeah, the Islamacists are coming to the US and Europe and Australia. They are being imported by the governments of a number of western countries to the detriment of their native citizens and cultures.
This hostage situation sucks and probably won't end well. But our anger needs to be focused on the real cause of the rise of radical Islam, which is the banking, oil, and MIC of the west, all enabled and propagated by the politicians that we "elect".
There is no doubt that our involvement has contributed greatly to increased radicalization, but duck and cover now will not stop it. This is war. We encited Japan to attack us in WWII even thought they were doing some evil shit. Do you think if we had simply surrendered they would have shown us mercy? Look at how they treated the Chinese after they had conquered them. Look at how radical Muslims treat people who are not hostile to them in any way. They murder them without hesitation and many times with glee. You may believe them justified in their actions, but you cannot while condemning America for its. EVERYONE feels JUSTIFIED who is willing to KILL.
War started by 9/11, eh? Oh right, the passports from guys who were inside the plane, which passports survived the fireball that destroyed two skyscrapers prove it was those guys, and not "our" guys.
What an idiot. It doesn't matter who starts a war, it only matters who survives it. 9/11 was not the beginning of anything but escalation. Every war between countries, cultures or civilizations ends when one side surrenders. Are you surrendering? When you find yourself agreeing with those trying to kill you, you have done just that.
Of course you can cling to the hope that they do not want to kill us, that it is all a ruse put up by Bush and MIC, and that our surrender or capitulation when end the violence, just like Palestinians would just lay down their rocket launchers when Israel stops all military actions...Sure.
It must be nice to live in your little dream world.
Had we not provoked the Japanese, it is arguable that they would have never attacked the US at all, so there would have been no need to surrender. Maybe, just maybe, if the West would stop destabilizing the MENA and provoking/drone bombing/raiding/humiliating/killing the people there, this shit would die down a little. The US/Israel/Five Eyes started this shit, not the other way 'round.
Japan was the nation invading, murdering, raping, pillaging and enslaving most of Asia. I think they did plenty to "provoke" the rest of the world. While I think we should damned well stay out of other country's business as long as it stays in those country's borders, we would be incredibly stupid to ignore aggression. But care needs to be practiced in all judgements as provocations occur at all levels. Ultimately it doesn't matter when they come for YOUR head. But I must admit, it is so much easier to believe it is all out stupid leaders that have caused this and the rest of the world is but a peaceful herd of sheep. There has NEVER been a history of cultural and religious hate motivating violence and aggression in the world until America came on the scene. Yes it is all evil America that causes this and no other.
Fools.
So...by that very logic, what should the rest of the world do about the aggression of NATO?
"The point is that these guys wouldn't even be holding hostages if..."
Maybe the point should be these fuckers don't go after the pols, bureaucrats, and banksters that are their real enemies. Why are they raiding a soft target like a cafe instead of the banksters across the street? They know they're going to end up in a gun battle and likely die. Why not go after a more "meaningful" target? Makes me wonder who organizes these incidents.
Just questions indeed, my liege.
With terrorists, it seems fairly straightforward why they go after soft targets: they're outmatched. Are women taught to "fight fair" against a male attacker and not hit below the belt? Obviously not. If war is a street fight on a much larger scale, civilian targets are the groin and eyeballs, and the weaker side will always take advantage of that. It's dirty fighting, but it's to be expected, unfortunately.
So in light of all that, if going after civilians is a tactic for the weaker side, why did the United States incinerate a couple hundred thousand people in Dresden, Nagasaki, and Hiroshima? We're not supposed to ask such questions.
Amen. It's some sad shit listening to people on ZH of all sites practically begging for Uncle Sam to keep sticking his nose where it doesn't fucking belong. Cops in America strangle and shoot people dead in the street and occasionally lob flash-bangs into babies' cribs, bankers steal billions of dollars and walk free, and some folks on ZH are worried about religious wackos on the other side of the world.
We are all far more likely to be killed by the "authorities" in our own country than by these morons half a world away. History has proven that fact time and time again. Hell, you're more likely to slip and die in your bathtub than be killed by a terrrrrrist.
But keep on buying into the fear, folks. Statists love it when the people they rule are scared. Scared people will put up with just about any kind of liberty-stomping bullshit.
Wow, that is some nihilist shit buddy. The point is the photo was not truthful it is obviously shot from an angle to fulfill an objective that objective not being truth. That was the point. You want to blow up your own soldiers go ahead dickhead, they are all just murderers right.. Actually because of Mao and Pol-Pot every leftist in the world should be lined up, makes sense to you right broad brush little buddy.
Oh mate. If you were German in the 1940's you would have be praising Hitler because there was a justifiable reason to invade Poland. It's just Poland after all. Then France, then Austria, then then then then.
The photo is FUCKING IRRELEVENT. What is an Australian soldier doing there. The word Defence has morphed into the word Attack, just like "global warming" has morphed into "climate change".
Just do it gradually and noone will notice.
Anyway, don't want to keep you from your cheerleading of the western alliances as they continue to kick the doors down of middle eastern families and blow the brains of chiildren all over the living room floor. After all, western alliances are righteous after all.
Hmmm rhetoric. I think global warming is bullshit, therefore I must agree with you that defensive measures can never include offenseive measures or technique. WE ARE SMARRRRT TOGETHURRR
I think global warming is bullshit
It is.
Don Pardo....tell him what he's won...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkyqoiciL-k
Let me tell you something, if that was my kids and the Aussie was pointing a gun at them the very next photo would be of him dead laying on the ground after I shot him in the face.
I would not be sticking a gun in the face of some twenty year old in a cafe thousands of miles away who had jack shit to do with it.
THATS THE GODAMNED DIFFERENCE!
HH posted propaganda and everyone knows it.
The truth can be painful.
I wonder if either you, Oldwood, or CalmYourself wouldn't happen to have a son that served, or maybe died, in Afghanistan or Iraq.
If so, I am sorry for your loss.
You're so full of shit its painful.
You can't prove he's pointing his gun at the boy and you posted it in error, why don't you just admit it?
I admit I cannot prove the Australian soldier is pointing his M4 with M203 grenade launcher at the head of any of these three small children in Afghanistan.
So the point was what?
If photographed from the opposite angle one would see a field hospital behind the Aussie where their mother was being treated perhaps, housing maybe...what?
Context is everything, fucking Bozo.
BringOnThe Asteroid said it best already.
HH.....useless to argue with these PNAC, neo-con wannabees
their love of israel is sickening
So siding with my own survival makes me a Jew or an Israelite? Fucking simplistic idiots abound.
I hate my government, because it lies and steals and kills to maintain its own survival. We should learn from this if WE want to survive. I'm not so sure that many here do want to survive. They seem to want America to die, its economy (such as it is) to die and are not terribly concerned about anyone dying except Muslims....Sweet innocent Muslims.
Really?
"Every US, Australian and Brirish soldier killed in Iraq, Afganistan, Syria etc is a good thing for the world as it is one less imperialist to wreak havoc on innocebt people."
But some rube sitting in a cafe is just going to have be the price you pay for a cup of coffee.
Got it.
I was thinking the same thing (about the angle).
WTF HH, you really defending islamo-thugs holding innocent hostages in a cafe?
I am not defending anyone. I am attacking our policy of endless war.
But ISIS's policy of war is fine, against Yazidis, Christian and Shia?
None of our fucking business. Can you get this thyrough your head. It's up to the Yazidis, Christian and Shia to defend themselves and fight for their freedom. If they don't think their own freedom is worth fighting for then why should we. It's time people all over the world stood up for their rights and freedom regardless of how terrifying the prospect is.
Amen. Relying on other men for freedom only leads to slavery, tyranny, death, or worse. Always has...always will.
Right. And when the small groups get slaughtered/enslaved, they would never move on to bigger groups. Pretty sure I've been told by a fully sane, non-radical ,Muslim that the goal of Islam is to take over the world by force if necessary.
Well, if you believe what the radical Muslims say, you are simply buying into the mainstream propaganda...don't ya know? I'm sure they are just talking trash...they don't really mean it. Islam is the religion of peace...didn't you get the news?
That is some weak fear mongering.
Besides, once the DeathStar is operational, no pathetic religion will dare oppose the Imperial Petrol Dollar.
Is it also ignorance to ignore everything written and said by the Muslim leaders of our age?
Even if you are willing to ignore or deem irrelevant the way Muslims treat each other, is it wise to not project those values in antication of how they will treat us? An insult is a death sentence and I think they can be considered well insulted.
God himself may reach down to smite me, but I will still resist and NOT lend him a hand.
Mate, you have more to fear from your own government than some crackpot dessert dwellers who believe in their own grey beared invisible skyman.
Then why are people protesting in Ferguson when the chances of being killed by a cop are infintesimally small compared to being killed by their neighbor? We should be aware of EVERY risk of those dedicated to our harm. To blather about the small risks says nothing to these people trapped in a restaurant. Explain the stupidity of fear to those living in European countries with No Go zones, where they have lost autonomy over their own country...but hell we are damned close to that in our own, but fortunately our "invaders" or not imbibed with a religion of hate (yet).
Our business, meaning what...the Aussies stuck in that cafe with a gun to their head?
And by saying "our" its now incumbent on you to self identify as you are trying to identify with me.
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Well?
"And by saying "our" its now incumbent on you to self identify as you are trying to identify with me."
Christ, can you give me a few minutes, my brain hurts.
Tell me. why aren't ISIS terrorist thugs rampaging through Fiji or Tonga or Vanuatu or Papua New Guinea or Indonesia or Tahiti or New New Zealand or Botswana or Iceland. Mmmmm, let me think for a minute. Maybe because these countries among many others stay the fuck out of countries with oil whose woman we need to protect from slavery and whose christians we need to protect from discrimination.
I can't believe I have tom argue that it is a bad thing to invade other countries.
What the fuck, have I woken up in a parallel Zero Hedge.
So you're gonna dodge & weave on a direct question till I pin you down like HH huh?
You said OUR...what did you mean by that?
Just forget it, I called him out on blatant propaganda and he cannot man up. That simple.. I love Israel now, fucking leftists cannot think past their predetermined narrative.. We are doomed see ya later nmewn, this is not worth it
Its amazing, same old tired, worn out leftwing playbook, first, you're a zionist!...then, oil pipelines through Afghanistan! (lol...fucking really, yes very stable, a sure thing no doubt)...Free Tibet! (oh wait, the communists are the oppressors).
Damn it gets old...later.
What is amazing to me is that neither you, CalmYourself, or Oldwood are
seemingly capable of understanding the same old tired, worn out fascist
playbook concept of endless war, so elegantly depicted by Orwell in his
novel, 1984.
I haven't been sucked into some information vaccum where no truth can escape. If you want to look at Orwellian dystopia, just observe the caliphate they set up in the Sunni Triangle. And yes, I really don't care what they do "over there" but you bring that shit to my shore in the form of taking hostages, murdering people via some warped belief in Sharia Law (thus corrupting western concepts of law) then, yes, I want them dead or expelled, their choice.
Freedom of religion, speech and association doesn't mean I signed a suicide pact.
double tap
Of course I do you idiot, I can also think past your lame lefty playbook.
is hating zionism left wing?
i know loving it is bipartisan.
Of course I do you idiot, I can also think past your lame lefty playbook.
OMG...
Let's play a game. Who is farthest right of left? Whom is the farthest left of right?
Now THAT is what is fucking old.
nmewn...No. The people in the cafe had nothing DIRECTLY to do with that Aussie Soldier in the Afghani Street except...THEY FINANCIALLY SUPPORT THAT WAR. THEY PAY TAXES.
BringOnThe Asteroid...Your suggestion that all of these Soldiers must be harmed or killed was just hyperbolic incitement.
Oldwood...Your suggestion that radical Muslims are going to start bombing America at the drop of a hat is rather RIDICULOUS.
In the past few weeks I have...
Purchased Nitric Acid...without any paperwork.
Purchased Hydrochloric Acid...without paperwork
Purchased Ammomium Nitrate...without paperwork.
Of course I can use all of these for extremely nefarious tasks. But along with the Stannous Chloride, the Sodium Metabisulfite, and the Hydrogen Peroxide which I also purchased without paperwork I am REFINING COMPUTER CIRCUIT BOARDS for the GOLD and the PALLADIUM.
REGRESSION FOR USEFUL INFORMATION...
HOW TO REFINE GOLD FROM CIRCUIT BOARDS...
First one uses a One Part Hydrochloric Acid, One Part Hydrogen Peroxide solution, by volume, to separate the Gold Plating from the Circuit Boards. Soak the cleaned boards in that solution under low heat. One filters the loose gold from that through filtration.
Then that metal is introduced to Aqua Regia after it is recovered from that first solution.
One must basify the Aqua Regia (One part Nitric Acid, Three Parts Hydrochloric Acid...by volume) with Urea (Ammomium Nitrate) before adding the Sodium Metabisulfite to precipitate the Gold out of Solution. One uses the Stannous Chloride to ascertain if the all of the Gold has precipitated out of soilution.
(Man have I torn apart a lot of old computers recently...)
And I regressed...BUT THIS WAS USEFUL INFORMATION...not some bullshit dogfight.
/end regression
Of course ANYONE can purchase GASOLINE on any Street Corner and it is extremely destructive if the intent is nefarious.
No there is not an Islamic Terrorist hiding behind every nook and cranny waiting for an opportunity to destroy us. There are boundless opportunities if some asshole terrorist wants to ever act. NO LAW CAN STOP THEM.
Oldwood...STOP your Xenophobic PARANOIA.
Now all of you know that this God Damned Forever War is fucking IMMORAL.
BringOnThe Asteroid is correct that we should NEVER HAVE BEEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE as AFGHANISTAN DID NOT ATTACK US. NEITHER DID IRAQ.
9-11 was a Saudi FUNDED OPERATION backed by the BIN LADEN Family....probably with Bandar's help.
God bless you all. (I know...I know BringOnTheAsteroid...May His Noodleness bestow upon you the Pastafarian cuisine.)
fuck all this terrrrrrist bigitory shit, does this yeild much of the yellow stuff??
nmewn...No. The people in the cafe had nothing DIRECTLY to do with that Aussie Soldier in the Afghani Street except...THEY FINANCIALLY SUPPORT THAT WAR. THEY PAY TAXES.
Because .gov's across the globe threaten, coerce, intimidate, harass, point guns at and jail people into paying their taxes, which it then uses for whatever the fuck, its the peoples own fault and now they have a different gun pointed at their head for doing so in an Australian cafe by some fucking islamic nutcase?
So regular people just can't win is the message here.
I suppose the next bit of self-hating nonsense would be .gov charging me with the crime of violating "the rights" of the islamo-prick by blowing his brains out all over the wall and the cafe owner suing me for loss of business income and a cleaning bill.
Our = Country we are citizens of.
So if you are Aussie none of "our" business means none of any Australians business. If you are Yank then none of our business mean no American citizens business.
To sum up, if you are not a citizen of the country then you have no business medling in their affairs.
Actually, they are in all those places like remote islands in the Phillipines, and in Chechnya and in SW China and most everywhere. Most of those places have little or no Muslim population or they are the majority. Indonesia (I have friends there) has a different less violent version but make no mistake, there are Muslim insurgents there, as well.
When you are making a point you go for the big guys which are mainly European nations and America. It is also easier to justify your actions. You might note they kill a lot of their own, as well.
To answer your question why isnt isis terrorising iceland fiji tonga or other country you mentioned is because their are no muslims in those countries.muslims like to immigrate to countries where their are good social welfare such as australia england sweden germany.
ISIS is the offshoot of Al-CIA-da = creation of CIA
Then do not use deliberately misleading photographs to prove your point and poorly I might add. We are all adults here and follow reasoning fairly well. Funny you were the one to abandon reason in the pursuit of your belief..
Had enough "diversity", yet?
Why do they insist on retaliation for America’s and Australia's presence and slaughter in their countries? Why can’t they just be satisfied?
They do whatever their CIA handlers tell them to do.
There you go again!
Perhaps old Rupert didn't pay his monthly NSA top secret data rental fees.
I smell yet another False Flag......is anything real anymore, or has everything been reduced to Kabuki Theater?
+100 MF.
I know there has been a propaganda war going on for the sheeple's mind in the U.S. (and they mostly won).
I also know there's a lot of critical-thinking, independent-minded, common sense people in Australia that are not the sheeple-type and have no intention of being the USA's bitch.
What I didn't expect is the increasing incongruency between those Australians and what the Aussie government their media have been doing/saying the last few years. Maybe it's been going on a long time and I just haven't noticed. This goes all the way back to the Assange story and the torrent sites vs. the RIAA/MPIA. I was surprised how quickly the Aussies rolled. You can follow that all the way up until today and their media/gov. stance on Ukraine/Russia, anything pro-Israel and police militarization.
The Australian government looks like it's gone rouge and is getting ready to go all Nazi on the Aussie people's asses. This hostage bit seems terribly contrived to prove to the Aussies that they NEED their government to save them from imaginary evil. Nothing about it makes sense except for the desire to deliver that message.
yeah they magically have a computer that gives them the location, time, and advanced details of any attack on the planet.
I would bet you anything that these guys are dying.
I'll give em that, they don't fuck around.
And of course, the Politburo doesn't engage in fake moral outrage after the fact either ;-)
The best way to deal with the ISIS financiers and trainers -- Israel and the CIA -- is to kill them also, according to the same logic.
Aussies logic swirl backwards just like their toilets. Hopefully this may wake enough of them back up to their God given right to defend themselves.
that is why it happens every other day where you are not here.
Yeah because 1 person with a concealed weapon would have made all of the difference against likely multiple armed assailants. Your the same nut on here who argued with me that the 2nd amendment was the most vital one and should even triumph private property rights.
Agree--they know better than to go after the Russians. A while back there was a string of Somali pirates taking over ships, abusing those aboard, and demanding ransom. Then they did it to a Russian ship, whereupon the Russians immediately responded in their usual way. That fixed the problem, at least where the Russians were concerned.
I still love the story from Lebanon when a Russian "associate" from the Lebanese embassy was kidnapped in the early 1980's. The Palis released that man quickly after opening up a box containing the fingers from various family members...
True story.
From Wiki:
Wiki goes on to say the veracity of the story is in question. The result, however, is clear enough.
The result was clear enough, which speaks volumes of Wiki's veracity ;-)
There still are annual Islamic bombing/attacks in Russian Federation territory especially in the Caucacus. Information is almost impossible to get out because the territory is occupied by Russian military who permit no outisde journalists or suppressed. As of the end of last year, there is no independent Russian-owned TV news agency and one semi-credible print/news agent that isn't directly controlled by the Kremlin.
Not to say that US-backed media is a bastion of credibility but what comes out of Russia and much more importantly goes on radio TV and print (and to a lesser degree the Internet because they don't have the resources/effort China makes) is heavily scripted and scrubbed.
The terrorist attacks in the Caucacus are now carried out by CIA operatives.
Islamists and modern statists share much in common when it comes to controlling people. They've become strange partners and both whores are in bed together.
Why is it that "Jihadists" typically choose very low yield targets that are occupied by average citizens? I mean if it is a suicide mission, why not "aim" a little higher?
All they can achieve here is publicity and the media willingly cooperates by widely reporting these events. Why?
BTW the cameras in the shop and the CTV cameras near the shop were broken. There is, regrettably, no video of this event.
Right, seriously, we are being told the IS group in Iraq has conquered lands, selling oil, planning release of gold coins as currency, and captured armaments. Why would they even try to holdup a coffee shop in Aussie? Sounds like things are going well for them in the ME.
We're not going to treated to another sad tale of "THIS IS A FALSE FLAG OPERATION!" are we?
These fuckers are fanatics, borders & nationalities mean nothing to them.
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Apparently we are...lol.
Well, bring it then bitchez!
You know whats gonna happen with all that, false flag will become as stupid as calling someone razzzist without any FACTS to support it.
Or is that the psy-op being employed here by your handlers?
Maybe you can "read up" on the Underwear Bomber and get back to us
Read what...that his daddy couldn't break through the layers of absolute bureaucratic bullshit in order to get to someone who gives a damn?
Its a lot like Gorelicks Wall, maybe you should read more or at least understand WTF you're reading.
actually this has the false flag OP smell all over it. Why would ISIS do somethng so dumb? Cu bono?
You mean, like blow themselves up to kill a few policemen? Happens in Iraq all the time.
not a false flag, just a lone wolf.a lot of young filthy arabs in sydney have sympathy for isis or al nusra here.but just one idiot takes it too far,he is brainwashed from shit he is reading on the internet.
But this is not IS. It is some yet to be named jihadist group.
Now I've seen a picture of their flag and I can read Arabic. The writing on their flag says: "We are the knights who say 'nich'".
Yes, but make sure ambulances are present at the scene when they do release the gas. Moscow screwed up by releaseing the gas into the theater, and ambulances were not present for some time, and the dosages used where higher than usual so even innocent people died due to it. If ambulances were present, then no innocense would have died... Was a disaster in planning, which is common in Russia (at least back then).
That went down....exactly....as planned.
Message was received, Lima fucking Charlie.
If you take hostages in Russia, they will fucking kill everyone...if that's what it takes. No bargaining. No quarter.
It's called "flexing huge nuts" and it works like nothing else.
Is this for real?? Or is it Martin Short in the movie 3 Amigos when he is holding up the bank. He's threatening with the hand grenade, pulls the pin with his mouth, and the nylon over his head breaks open so everyone can see who he is. It's probably Obama.
And are amongst the last people I'd want to intentionally annoy. They can be a tough bunch when they care to be.
Thanks but no we won't. A government willingly discard a control mechanism? Please . . .
Thank god Australia is a gun free zone, otherwise one of the op--, er jihad--, er a child, that's it -- a child might get killed.
They attack the soft underbelly of the utopian skittle shitting unicorn known as Australia. Didn't the jihadists see the 'NO GUNS ALLOWED' sign when arriving at Convict Island?
"They'll reverse the gun ban..."
No, they'll tighten it further...just like they did after the 'Port Arthur Massacre'
"*ABBOTT: URGES AUSTRALIANS TO GO ABOUT BUSINESS AS USUAL"
As in, take up record amounts of debt to keep pumping property prices which only enrich bankers and property developers while we keep the immigration ponzi that forces down wages and destroy social fabric, business as usual?
Bingo.
Nah. They've gone limp. Any society that gives up its firearms have effectively lost all of their alpha males. Just curl up in a fetal position and plead for your life. SWAT will save you.
ahem.
The leftist beta male move is to "appeal to an authority figure". This means you cannot fight for yourself but must have some government nanny do all things for you and do conflict resolution.
If I was the hostage, yeah I would prefer that or professional negiotator vs one guy with a concealed weapon who no way kills multiple armed assailants and instead the assailants then demonstrate a point & their anger by executing a few hostages.
then you just watch and go down with Flight 93 or say "Hi!" to your mom as they are about to behead you on video just in time for Christmas cards.
The Real Australia: extract from an Open Letter revealing the true Australia is in the second part of the linked article.
http://fairdinkumradio.com/?q=node/456
..."The second photograph on this page is of Charlie Phillott, now 87, an elderly farmer from the ruggedly beautiful Carisbrooke Station at Winton. He has owned his station since 1960, nurtured it and loved it like a part of his own flesh. He is a grand old gentleman, one of the much loved and honoured fathers of his community.
Not so long ago, the ANZ bank came and drove him off his beloved station because the drought had devalued his land and they told him he was considered an unviable risk- Yet – “Charlie Phillott has never once missed a single mortgage payment”.
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Yet not one single newspaper or politician in this land has exposed the fact that the worst form of terrorism that is happening right now is going on inside the very heartland of our own nation as banks and foreign mining companies are deliberately and cruelly forcing our own Australian farmers off the land....
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And so the banks have been free to play their games and completely terrorise these people at their leisure. The drought has devalued the land and the banks have seen their opportunity to strike. It was exactly the excuse that they needed to clean up and make a fortune, because once the rains come – as they always do – this land will be worth four to ten times the price....The banks have been bringing in the police to evict Australian famers and their families from their farms, many of them multigenerational. One farmer matter of factly told us it took “oh, about 7 police” to evict him from his first farm and “maybe about twelve” to evict him from his second farm which had been in his family for many generations....
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the fear of speaking out against the banks: when we asked people to tell us who had done this to them, they would immediately start to shake and cry and look away: They have been silenced to protect the good corporate image of their tormentors called the banks. What in God’s name have the bastard banks been allowed to do to our people?"
Its the farmers in Australia who have guns... but as you can see they offer zero protection when police work for the banks and a dozen officers surround a man's kids.
Of course it would. In fact it would've happened sooner, and likely with battle rifles as opposed to a couple of shotties. Logically, if guns were more prevelant, there'd be more islamists with guns, which means more opportunities for this kind of faggotry. But that's beside the point. It's not gun ownership that causes problems, it's the willingness of people to point them at other people. Guns don't kill people . . . but damn if they don't make it a hell of a lot easier.
faggotry=you. apparently.
You'd know. Dickhead. More Guns = more shootings. US per capita Gun ownership rank number 1 (Source) couldn't possibly lead to this, or this, or my personal favourite, this from Milwaukee's Police Chief . . . An honest man doing a shit job who I'm fairly sure is better qualified than you, me, or most anyone here to comment on the single biggest problem when it comes to shooting violence: tooled up dickheads who don't care who they shoot. More guns means more dickheads with guns. Now go home and get your fuckin' shinebox.
LMAO, please continue to suck the obamacock
I teach the homeless how to make bombs and poison gas generators because of people like you, CapnJackDaniel.
Even the homeless can afford the materials and it takes NO PAPERWORK. As long as they have it for legitimate purposes it is legal.
The homeless are the greatest recyclers of all. I even teach them how to refine Gold so that I may buy it. (Saves me the work.) Now that is a legitimate reason, isn't it? They are using it FOR RECYCLING.
I want a level playing field. IEDs take out APCs
You are right...Whom needs a gun? I do not own a gun to my name.
A gun is useless against an APC.
Just because most homeless are mentally ill does not mean that they are stupid.
How do you like the way that I say, "FUCK YOU"?
So please continue and try and get rid of the Second Amendment. It will be a blast. It will be a gas. It may even knock your socks off, man.
More guns = more bad guys with guns?
Well fuck, you guys know you can just legislate that problem away.
But I'm thick, so humor me here: don't lawbreakers ignore laws by definition? And if only lawbreakers are armed, wouldn't that mean more victims for the lawbreakers?
Mate I see what you're saying. Happy to discuss. Way I see it, the problem isn't guns. It's people being willing to use them on humans. And because you can't legislate against stupidity or psychosis or being a dickhead, they've gone with make it harder for everyone to get one. Even if everyone had a gun, most people wouldn't use or carry . . . and most people lack the training, temperment, judgement & situational awareness to respond appropriately to a threat. Are we safer with fewer guns? I think we are; from the casual dickhead anyway. Does that carry a risk? Of course it does.
The trouble with OZ, and I have been there, is that we vision it as the outback and the small rural farms. That is not OZ, OZ is almost all big city metro areas, liberals abound, and most big tough Ozzy folks are total suburban pussies.
I noted a world of difference between Melbourne, and out in the rural areas. That is where the gun owners live. I wouldn't live or even hike in the bush with out a gun. For crawling things in the night and for two legged evil doers by day.
Yep we got all the best poisonous critters. Funnel webs and the occasional eastern browns in most backyards.
If people die, there may be a much uglier repeat of the Cronulla riots. In a way, I hope you're right and my fears are wrong.
Couldn't happen in Texas.
Except on a military base, like Ft. Hood, which is a gun-free-zone.
11/5/2009
Twelve people have been killed and 31 wounded in a shooting spree at a
Texas military base by what officials believe was possibly carried out
by an Army officer.
The suspected gunman was identified by ABC News as Major Malik Nadal Hasan.
The shooter was killed and two other suspects, who are also soldiers, have been apprehended, Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone said.
The gunman used two handguns, Cone said. He wasn't sure if the shooter reloaded the weapons during the attack.