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The Oil-Price-Shock Contagion-Transmission Pathway

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As we noted previously, counterparty risk concerns (and thus financial system fragility) are starting to rear their ugly heads. In the mid 2000s, it was massive one-way levered bets on "house prices will never go down again." When the cracks started to appear, the mark-to-market losses in derivatives led to forced liquidations and snowballed systemically. In the mid 2010s, it is massively levered one-way asymmetric bets on "commodity prices [oil] will never go down again." Meet WTI-structured-notes... the transmission mechanism for oil-price-shocks blowing up the financial system.

 

Because nothing says exuberant ignorance like limited upside, unlimited downside OTC (illiquid) derivatives...

Here's BNP Paribas' 1-Yr WTI-linked notes that collapse if oil drops below $70...

 

And Credit Suisse's ironically-names "TWIn-win" notes that collapse once oil prices close below $65

 

And finally Barclays, Leveraged Contingent Buffer Enhanced Notes Linked to the Performance of WTI Crude that start to die if oil prices close below $77.28

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All of these "notes" are simply bundles of risk-free bonds subsidized by written derivative premiums on oil-prices - and sold to greater-fool yield-reaching muppet investors around the world who never saw a short-term tren they did not extrapolate - the question is - who is on the other side of all these notes? Especially now that capital is actually being eroded instead of simply less gains...

The snowball is starting (which explains why bank credit spreads have started to bleed higher)

 

We are still trying to size this market but its complexity and recent issuance suggest it is anything but "contained."

 

Read more here  via @CalConfidence

 

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Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:09 | 5551218 Cognitive Dissonance
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The new Ebola. Got milk....er....dead dinosaurs?

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:09 | 5551223 ABG LINE
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We shall transmit this to some folks.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:13 | 5551242 JamesBond
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Let us all sing, We wish you a merry yen, We wish you a merry yen, we wish you a merry yen, and a happy cosplay.

 

 

jb

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:19 | 5551262 nope-1004
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As long as the FED exists, serial bubble/burst sydrnome will prevail.  END THE FED ALREADY.  Until then, there are no free markets.

 

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:25 | 5551270 kaiserhoff
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Hmmm.. Brent and WTI both trade on exchanges with high liquidity and sensible margin requirements.

Most oil patch volk have deep pockets and a time frame of decades.  In any case, low oil prices benefit a few dozen companies for every one that loses.

ZH needs a better "sky is falling" meme.  This one has whiskers.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:26 | 5551279 Bay of Pigs
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So you're saying massive debt and leverage in derivatives isnt a problem with the oil sector?

Really?

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:33 | 5551291 kaiserhoff
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One of many problems, but nothing to get excited about.  Lots of farmers lost their asses last year.  New land leases have to be signed by March 1.  There will probably be a bigger impact from that than anything related to oil, but it gets no ink.  Nada.

Even Venezuela is small potatoes.  Half dead before this mess.

Watch the big stuff, Japan, real estate, the break up of the Euro.   Something will take this thing tits up, but it won't be oil

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:44 | 5551329 Manthong
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Ouch..

Pretty darn good deal for the broker/bank, though.

I presume they create these things out of thin air as the sheep request them.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:50 | 5551347 kaiserhoff
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Farm land leasing is rarely brokered.  It's usually an annual tenant/landlord lease, either for a specific amount of cash per acre, or a 50/50 split of costs and revenues. 

Here's the rub.

A typical tenant farmer now, may own 200 acres, which is his base, but lease 3,000 acres.  It is a massive annual gamble, well into the millions.  Sooner or later, many of them lose the bet.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:56 | 5551358 HardlyZero
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Kaiserhoff, yes, but what about say $100 TRILLION dervatives or synthetic derivatives tied up in WTI ?

What is the right number ?  Isn't that a very large risk to the efficient markets ?

Didn't the highly leveraged CDO's destroy the market liquidity in 2007 ?  

Its the leverage that ruins markets, the ZIRP based leverage for 6 years.

The leverage and massive size of the derivatives and synthetics completely wipes out the physical markets.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:04 | 5551373 The Limerick King
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A verse on financialized oil
Derivatives starting to spoil
Levered & leaking
From bonds that are reeking
A cauldron of death brought to boil

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:55 | 5551514 drdolittle
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I enjoy your talent. You'd been missing awhile but now are back. Keep with it.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 02:21 | 5552569 Squid-puppets a...
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what i dont get is why would any chump BUY these stupid things? Just buy physical oil. if it goes down to $60 a barrel, you still get $60. These derivatives make you lose it all - for what upside? 12.5% ?  

makes you half suspect they wrote billions of these things then triggered the price drop SPECIFICALLY to snare these chumps

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 08:48 | 5552938 Refuse-Resist
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Why? Because:  Money for nothin' and your chicks for free.

 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 17:45 | 5565221 bagehot99
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And they also pay 2% to their BNP/Credit Suisse/Merrill Lynch 'Advisor' to get them into these instruments.

But don't worry, the FAs will definitely have the right product next time.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 01:15 | 5552477 Treason Season
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A B A B A  Interesting.

IMHO very nice and one of your best.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:06 | 5551375 kaiserhoff
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I have no idea if that's the right number.  Given the nature of the beast (private contracts) I'm pretty sure no one knows, but that at least is interesting.

As has been said many times here, that which can't be paid won't be paid.  That sort of derivative exists so the banks can pretend to have insurance, which they don't have.  My hope is that when some of this crap blows up, it will destroy the whole globalization/new world order nonsense, but no one will make a serious attempt to pay off on that stuff.  It will simply be shown up for the casino it always was.

 

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 21:44 | 5551888 Richard Chesler
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Wishful thinking.

The tribe criminals and their gov muppets will simply find another way to dump their losses on unsuspecting taxpayers. Scumbags.

 

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:13 | 5551388 MalteseFalcon
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"the question is - who is on the other side of all these notes? Especially now that capital is actually being eroded instead of simply less gains..."

I don't know who they are, but they are getting bailed out.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:37 | 5551455 Son of Loki
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"The crash is contained," ....

 

My cousin from Houston sent me these articles from his Houston Business Journal. For some reason he's not as Bullish as Barry on this Robust Rekovery:

 

Houston companies stagger in wake of low oil prices

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/print-edition/2014/12/12/houston-companies-stagger-in-wake-of-low-oil.html?iana=ind_energy

 

Halliburton to cut 1,000 jobs

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/morning_call/2014/12/halliburton-to-cut-1-000-jobs.html?iana=ind_energy

 

Oil prices worry Houston housing market

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/print-edition/2014/12/12/oil-prices-worry-houston-housing-market.html?iana=ind_energy

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 21:43 | 5551886 Real Estate Geek
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It's nice to know that Halliburton's hurting. Well, would have been hurting if it didn't just gut punch 1,000 families, but you get my drift.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:43 | 5551479 McCormick No. 9
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Q: How do you make a little money farming?

A: Start with a lot of money.

Q: How long you plan to farm?

A: Until the money runs out.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:46 | 5551486 db51
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Not true.   Most of the "tennant" farmers here are mega-operations owning well over half of the ground they farm.   Leases are usually 3 year cash rental agreements.   If you own 200 acres and are renting 2,800 with current crops at less than COP...you're ass will be in bankruptcy by next fall.   Cash rental wars here are waged by guys farming 10-30K acres.  The little guys are long gone.  

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:51 | 5551500 kaiserhoff
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That was kind of my point.  What state are you in?

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 20:11 | 5551560 db51
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SE Illinois.     Corn average county yields here is 135-40 bu/acre.   Ground is selling for $ 8,500.00/acre.  Total fucking insanity.   2015 is going to remind guys what 1980's looked like....and it ain't gonna be pretty.   

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 20:32 | 5551651 kaiserhoff
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Yup I remember the farm aid days.  You could buy 250 acres in Iowa with a nice victorian house on it,

  for $250,000 because no one in the county had money.

Do you see financing problems coming up for the Spring?

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 23:58 | 5552334 db51
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Bankers are drooling at the chance to confiscate some farmground.   Funny, but ag suppliers will be the ones to go unpaid and the Banks will own the property.   2016 is the year to watch....by then most high levereged with equipment financed etc. will begin to drop....one could only hope.   

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 21:35 | 5551867 Great Caesar
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Here in Central Illinois, we would be thrilled with 8500 an acre.  Try 13,14,15k right now. 

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 00:44 | 5552428 db51
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Central IL Corn APH Yields   220 bu/acre
SE Illinois Corn APH Yields   140 bu/acre.

 

Do the math...Your ground is underpriced.  lol 

Tue, 12/16/2014 - 10:24 | 5557998 northern vigor
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"...the little guys are gone"...mostly true, I'm afraid.

In the early 80's when I started, no one would rent me land or give me credit. I eventually bought and owned 900 acres because that was the only way I could guarantee the big guys wouldn't jump my leases from landlords.

But  I'm considered a little guy still, and it's hard to get motivated to expand at age 54 at these land prices. Unless my kids come home soon...my days farming are numbered.

But!! if a crash happened and land dropped like 1981...I've got some gold and silver I could cash out and buy land. I'd do it, just to do it.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 20:40 | 5551679 greyghost
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me thinks we are going to need that $303 trillion dollar bailout from the taxpayers real soon.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 23:40 | 5552268 yrbmegr
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Well, well.  That's worth a million dollar bone-us for somebody.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:53 | 5551501 agNau
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Reminder to self:
Revisit this comment in two weeks.

*

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:35 | 5551304 Fix-ItSilly
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So did mortgages.  But as we saw, in the real world CDO returns were synthetic and markets thin.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:42 | 5551332 kaiserhoff
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Good point, but look at the scale.   Millions of people were and are invested in over priced real estate.  Few people know what a master limited partnership, typically used in oil leases, is about.  Those who do are usually wealthy and well diversified. 

Lots more money will be lost in the next tech bust, or even Netflix, Herbalife, and Chipotle coming back to earth.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:07 | 5551377 Escrava Isaura
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kaiserhoff

Four good posts.

Food will become a problem, especially for the third world, but the problem will spread to everyone, eventually.

 

Not worry about margins on the oil business, yet, because it’s a well-regulated existence where the critical players know their roles.

 

Right about Euro going before the dollar.

 

Putin has to go. Then, watch out for Coup D’états.

 

The unintended consequences are what will get us, because this over financialized global economy is on its last leg.

 

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 23:04 | 5552157 Dame Ednas Possum
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Please give yourself an upper-cut.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 02:03 | 5552549 Augustus
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Cheap energy does not lead to food shortage.

It makes the cost of prodution lower.

In th US there will be another farm operator who will plant the crop  if the first one goes broke.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:13 | 5551384 TheRideNeverEnds
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yup, a week ago there were articles about how 65$ oil would start rolling defaults and bing down the wole system.  

 

Today oil it strading 55$ and the e-minis are still basically at lifetime highs.  

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:32 | 5551439 kaiserhoff
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And oil will keep going down,

  and the sun also rises;)

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 23:42 | 5552280 sun tzu
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Do you realize defaults take time? A company might have $200 million cash and $8 billion debt. The cash on hand will enable them to keep making interest payments for 6-12 months. Then comes the default. If you don't believe it, then look at the stock prices of the small and mid-sized E&P's. Do you think they've dropped 50-80% since October because earnings are down or because of the risk of default? Once they default, there is no recovery for the bondholders.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 02:36 | 5552584 TheRideNeverEnds
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oh im fully aware of all that.   Im just saying it wont be the price of oil that ends this bull market, this is just another dip to buy.  facebook netflix apple yahoo baba etc dont give a shit about the price of oil.

 

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 23:37 | 5552263 sun tzu
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MLP's are only good for a few years then get out because of the shale depletion rate. I've audited a few of them and those are some wealthy people. They get the good cash flows the first few years then dump them on unsuspecting suckers. 

You underestimate the importance of oil and how much money it has pumped into the US economy the past 4 years. Residential RE is a different animal. People still live in their houses whether it's worth $400K or $300K. It won't change their lifestyle or spending habits unless they have to sell. Those aren't liquid investments that determine cash flow. 

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:53 | 5551351 kchrisc
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"Hmmm.. Brent and WTI both trade on exchanges with high liquidity and sensible margin requirements.

Most oil patch volk have deep pockets and a time frame of decades.  In any case, low oil prices benefit a few dozen companies for every one that loses."

I agree, but only because I believe that the oil price decline is an engineered part of the Zionist western banksters', and Israel's, war against Russia for Syria.

If they can get social and civil instability in the American heartland, Venezuela and Mexico, so much the better for them and the planned neo-cons'/Zionists' return to power in 2016.

Keep an eye on Mexico, as they just privatized their oil industry, and it seems they did it at the behest of China, not the west.

An American, not US subject.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:53 | 5551352 jcaz
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As Tyler has pointed out on numerous occassions, kaiserhoff,  it's not oil itself-  it's the DEBT construct of oil that will be the issue here.

Doesn't matter how liquid your oil is when you've pledged it as collateral at $60 to service your debt-  once you're in default, all your shit is gonna get sold at market-  liquid at $60?  Check.   $50?  Check?  $40?  Check.  All cleaned out yet?  Check.

It's pretty simple, really- what's the most overbloated pig in the room?  High yield debt.  

Just like shooting stops-  hammer them until they're out of money.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 21:12 | 5551790 Tek Kinkreet
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Son, this country is going straight to hell! Agree or get downvoted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRq89XXIPGU

 

*downvotes you btw*

 

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:28 | 5551288 El Oregonian
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O-oh

I-I

L-Lose...

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:10 | 5551224 DaddyO
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But this contagion cannot be hemmed in with a face shield and N95 particle mask...

We are all about to get really sick, eh?

DaddyO

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:14 | 5551246 Cognitive Dissonance
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Damn. And I was hoping to repurpose those cute little stretch booties I bought for carrying out the dead.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:32 | 5551297 Nobody
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You might want to use those booties in that greenhouse

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:12 | 5551237 NoPension
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Ebola didn't pan out.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:16 | 5551251 IndyPat
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Was only killing darkies. They put it back in the oven to cook a little longer.

It'll come back...with friends.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:26 | 5551280 kaiserhoff
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Flounder is leaving early in the new year.

That might restore some honest reporting.  Time will tell.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:18 | 5551259 ZH Snob
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now that the american public is on the hook for all these derivatives I guess we will win at the gas pumps while losing all the $ in our bank accounts due to the corresponding derivatives.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:59 | 5551526 drdolittle
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That has to be relevant. They're gonna fuck us hard, right in our faces and dare us to do shit. It almost seems they want violence, Ferguson and all so they can clamp down. You know, for civilization's sake.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 20:21 | 5551601 roadhazard
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I learned on ZH to only have enough money in the bank to cover the monthly bills.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:21 | 5551411 noben
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Oilbola = ill-liquid

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:44 | 5551482 Jumbotron
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European markets tanking as we speak as WTI breaks into 56.xx and Brent is looking hungrily at 59.  But wait until Brent goes to 57.xx......minds are going to focus REALLY fast and hard when that happens.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 20:31 | 5551648 Hazlitt
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Don't worry, the contagion is contained.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 01:15 | 5552476 TheReplacement
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With our DNA wizardry and 3D printing we can now just print replicas of dead dinosaurs.

Problem solved.

Next.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 05:36 | 5552722 williambanzai7
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Please do not worry...

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:11 | 5551219 Bay of Pigs
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BOOM indeed...

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:41 | 5551327 Cacete de Ouro
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Credit Suisse 'TWIn' Notes?  Collapsed in on their own footprint?

 

Pull it!

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:08 | 5551222 HungryPorkChop
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The time has arrived:

Release The Kraken

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:11 | 5551228 rccalhoun
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the chase for yield always is risky

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:10 | 5551230 Diablo
Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:15 | 5551396 kowalli
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it's just another dumb story - you need to go and buy stock and stop pay for credits

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 22:31 | 5552032 Dave Thomas
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Wasn't the guy who started National Inflation Association a penny stock wunderkind? I wonder how ol George For Title is doing these days.

 

 

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 08:50 | 5552943 Refuse-Resist
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Is he a shoeshine boy? Of the son of a money-changer?

 

 

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:12 | 5551236 BaghdadBob
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"We will never see oil prices below $90 per barrel again in my lifetime" - Dead Banker.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:18 | 5551406 Bernoulli
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Oh was that the guy that landed on the metal fence, or the one with the nail gun?

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 20:09 | 5551559 ParkAveFlasher
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It was the one that fell from a second floor balcony, and split in two.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 08:52 | 5552945 Refuse-Resist
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Him and Matt Simmons partying in the great hot tub in the sky.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:13 | 5551239 IndyPat
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This whole counterparty risk thing....

That's like alcohol poisoning at a hipster kegger, right?

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:54 | 5551353 flacon
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Or like at an Ivy League fraternity party.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:31 | 5551440 IndyPat
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Ivy League don't do Frats, my brother.

They have Societies.

While we were boogying down in front of the altar of beer and poontang, Societies bow to the alter of power and war.

Be a better world if they could appreciate a few cold ones and some pink. Guess that's just muppet fun.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 20:26 | 5551617 StychoKiller
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Comacho, I'd vote for ya if yer platform is cold ones and a little pink! :>D

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 20:36 | 5551663 IndyPat
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You know it, bro...those are core values.

Wait until folks see another part of my election platform.

Handjobs at Starbucks. Order extra frothy...

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 01:17 | 5552486 TheReplacement
Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:13 | 5551243 Ban KKiller
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Chasing yield? Good luck...I mean the books are honest, right? Accountants wouldn't lie, would they? Selling brokers did speak to the down side risk, correct?  Guess they can turn all those oil pools in ND into reflecting ponds. 

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 05:31 | 5552715 disabledvet
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I'VE SEEN THE FUTURE AND IT IS WONDERFUL!

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:15 | 5551245 Caveman93
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Right. Things can only go up..never down. Got it!

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:58 | 5551331 HardlyZero
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As high yield rates rise to 15% or 20% then many interest rates will rise.

Then all the ZIRP debt will get wiped out and companies will no longer be able to finance their own stock buybacks.

Then the DOW will collapse as nothing will support it any more.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 01:19 | 5552488 TheReplacement
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Honestly, I think you are overly optimistic.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:14 | 5551247 seek
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12% upside and 100% downside? Sign me up!*

 

 

* by "me" I mean the pension fund I manage, of course.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:47 | 5551342 Pool Shark
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No, it's 12.5% upside. Don''t forget that 1/2% extra!

 

[er,... I guess it doesn't matter given that those notes are currently at between 30% and 50% loss...] 

 

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:59 | 5551361 Thom_333
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OPM= Other People´s Money. No harm done. It´s not like its my money....again. It´s the money of poor widows and orphans.

On the positive side it looks that it´s a massive profit opportunity next week in shorting and buying reverse ETF´s or just go away and sit it out and go back in again in a couple of months.

Just have to grapple with my ambigous feelings towards moral hazard. I floated an idea in another discussion where I proposed treateing these people like the witches they are. Salem style. Burn them at a stake. Bare minimum would be to burn in a pentagram in the forehead with a red-hot iron on everyone that is working at a trading desk or in a bank. The wild screams and smell of sizzling flesh would go some way towards correcting that moral hazard thing.

Can I do both?

May have to seek some spiritual guidance on this one.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 20:28 | 5551624 StychoKiller
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Doing God's work(s) covers a lot of gray area(s)!

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 20:43 | 5551691 ljag
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You're in luck, Thom, I just happen to be a god in my spare time and I give you my blessing to do both.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 05:35 | 5552721 Thom_333
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Thank you!

Pure evil will have to be dealt with on it´s own terms.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:15 | 5551252 wizardofOZ
Mon, 12/15/2014 - 06:59 | 5552786 Thom_333
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Aw, aw baby, yeah
Ooh yea, huh, listen to this

Spy on me, baby, use satellite
Infrared to see me move through the night
Aim gonna fire shoot me right
Aim gonna like the way you fight
And I love the way you fight

Now you found the secret code
I use to wash away my lonely blues well
So I can't deny or lie 'cause you're the only one
Who can make me fly

Time bomb, time bomb, you're a timebomb uh, huh
You can give it to me when I need to come along, give it to me
Time bomb, timebomb, you're my time bomb
And baby, you can turn me on, baby, you can turn me on
You know what you're doing to me, don't you?
Ha ha, I know you do

....songwriter Narada Michael Walden et al and original performer Tom Jones

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:19 | 5551260 ffidelite
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Option strategy - to sell put options. Very risky.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:47 | 5551345 Just Take It All
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Exactly.  This scam is just an expensive way to write a put on WTI.  The only reason it exists is to lure in retail and collect enormous commissions.  Lovely.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:22 | 5551269 kowalli
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lets wait 1.39 hours and i hope for nikkei for 20k /sacr

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:25 | 5551273 The Duke of New...
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Do like Abe does - print Phucking MOAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:27 | 5551281 buzzsaw99
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BNP Paribas, muppet slayer extraordinaire. gains capped at 12.5% no matter how high oil goes but losses you can eat it big time. Good lord, what an ingenious scheme! step right up, test your luck!! lolololololololol!!!!

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 20:54 | 5551736 Number 156
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12% upside, 100% downside????? WTF indeed!!!!

This has muppet city written al over it.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:27 | 5551283 Q-Q-Q
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Shhhhhhhhhh, listen. The shitstorm is coming!

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 02:05 | 5552551 lakecity55
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"Don't tell me that, Julian! You and Ricky bought those contracts for a lot of weed! Well, the Shitstorm is coming, my friend! Those banksters have all of your dope and those notes are gonna be worthless! Randy and I are going to go get drunk and laugh our asses off! Shitstorm, Julian, hahhahaha!"

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:30 | 5551289 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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When the other guy loses it is good thing. When I lose it is a terrible thing. When everybody loses the winners are hiding.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:41 | 5551325 kowalli
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no winner in mass suicide

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 00:45 | 5552433 Tall Tom
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The winners are those in hiding and opted out to begin with.

 

As for for the rest they can knock themselves out. Forward lemmings...OVER THE CLIFF.

 

You still have time to OPT OUT.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 08:54 | 5552951 Refuse-Resist
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Yep. That's called a crash course in being poor.

 

The materialistic females in your tribe may not embrace your ascetism easily.

 

BTDT.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:19 | 5551408 TheGreatRecovery
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The only way they can get something for nothing, is if someone else is getting nothing for something.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:31 | 5551296 SkySavage
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"the question is - who is on the other side of all these notes? Especially now that capital is actually being eroded instead of simply less gains..."

 

Tylers, we look forward to the followup on this one.  Be nice to bag the next Bear Sterns or Lehman! 

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:04 | 5551357 IndyPat
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If the Russians were on the other side of it, it would be pure karma.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:13 | 5551385 buzzsaw99
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we know that bnp is just the middle man. they make money no matter what. on one side is certainly some oil producers on the other side it has to be muppets. those contracts were written to guarantee a minimum price to the producer while letting them keep the lion's share of the upside. only a muppet with opm could buy that stuff.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:41 | 5551473 IndyPat
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I wasn't suggesting Vlad actually bellied up at the counter and bought em. Pretty sure he has some proxies and cutouts that could swing this and he has the Intel assets that could put this play to him.
I'm just looking at this through the lense of economic warfare, which I think may be the proper context. Sanctions, weapons and a lot of back and forth.

Pair that with some strange caps in PM markets and an obscene amount of cheese in the Cromnibus nonsense...I dunno, it just makes me think that this isn't the work of the usual suspects. The "good guys" have layed in some serious CYA funds and controls.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:55 | 5551518 buzzsaw99
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i'm thinking middle east on the producer side and hedge funds on the muppet side. we may never know.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 20:22 | 5551599 IndyPat
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Guess we will see soon enough.

If you are on it, I'd expect to see some hedge fund managers with their nuts nail gunned to the desk in the very near future...which is the kinda stuff we live for here anyway.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 21:17 | 5551807 cro_maat
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My bet is on the HNW and SHNW muppets here in the USSA.

I sell analytic software to RIAs, HFs, B/Ds, etc. and cover Texas as part of my territory. A few RIA Texas based prospects have been selling these structured notes to their HNW clients for years now. Many are recent millionaires from leasing their ranches to the frackers.

I modeled a few of these instruments in my software and was not impressed with the payouts. If you time the 2 year notes during bull markets you can do very well ( though not much better than being long the market conventionally). If you hit a protracted bear market you get slaughtered.

I suspect these advisors will be looking for a new vehicle to sell. I also think many of their client's will be showing up at their offices with pitchforks soon.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 22:52 | 5552104 The Most Intere...
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Well hopefully their offices are wired for video and we can get a look at what happens when a muppet loses a shit load of money a breakd in to the office uninvited.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 02:21 | 5552565 Augustus
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If the fracker debt is financed with notes structured like this example the producers are in pretty good shape.  It would be one heck of a producer hedge, better than commodity market trades.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 21:59 | 5551945 Whoa Dammit
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CalPERS just has to be one of the main muppets. They seem to be the pack leader in stupid investments.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:34 | 5551300 HowdyDoody
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It is almost as if these notes were designed to fail.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:35 | 5551305 IndyPat
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Tyler said the following above...

"All of these "notes" are simply bundles of risk-free bonds..."

So, we are good, right? Risk free. We won't need that throttle on metals after all, right?

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:44 | 5551337 Winston Churchill
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All AAA rated.

Oh wait....

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:49 | 5551348 arby63
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Well I am sure these are FDIC insured after the Criminalbus passed through the Senate. It was probably buried on Page 1577. Small print inserted by Barclays directly.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 21:22 | 5551817 cro_maat
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These will not be insured. The trading desks will collect big time on these and the muppets who own them will get slaughtered. Congress and the regulatory agencies do not care about muppets only TBTF Ponzi houses.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 21:24 | 5551819 cro_maat
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Glitch in the Matrix :)

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:20 | 5551407 TheGreatRecovery
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What you mean, "we", Kemo Sabe?  :-)

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:35 | 5551309 gmak
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Exactly how many of these have been sold?  100 mm, maybe 200 mm tops. Hardly something that will topple a domino - although we may see a few nail gun incidents among the trust-fund set.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:57 | 5551340 HardlyZero
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Key will be...how many of the $600 TRILLION in derivatives and synthetic derivatives there are tied up in WTI.

That will be all she wrote.

 

I'd predict at least $100T is in WTI one way or another...100T is a very big number.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:47 | 5551489 MsCreant
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And what kind of multiplier is rehypothecation in the equation? 

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 08:53 | 5552953 Refuse-Resist
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The roof is on fire. Let the motherfucker burn.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:50 | 5551349 Winston Churchill
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Well , lets go down memory lane.

Bear Sterns held the record of one Note sold 42 times. The average was 10 times across TBTF.

After all the jail time handed out to the bankers after that, have a guess.100,200,300 times

would not be out of the question.Why not, risk free to them.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:38 | 5551312 exartizo
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we sold some Yield Starved Muppet folks some
Phony (toilet) Paper.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 18:56 | 5551355 TahoeBilly2012
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7 years is just about here...

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:09 | 5551370 One And Only
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How about people who follow "god like" oil geniuses like Andrew Hall.

Andrew Hall was called "god" for his trading accumen when it came to traiding oil futures. In November his fund was up 1% despite a 15% plunge in the product he had been trading his entire life....oil. This was because of furious dollar buying in efforts to hedge.

If I got it right...the oil leg of his trade was -13%!!!!. A hedge saved his ass from pulling a LTCM and a LUCKY one at that. His ass could have easily tanked his Hedge Fund, Occidental Petroleum, and whoever was counter-party to them. He must have been shitting his fucking briches watching the oil universe implode like it has.

...clearly "god" like and clearly evidence that this fucking tax payer funded and FED induced drunken party fest has once again gone too fucking far and the history lessons of Enron, LTCM, and Amaranth are lost in the annals of history.

 This thing is all fucked up. And anyone who would buy some piece of Tom Fuckery called "Trigger Twin Win" is a fucking cunt and you deserve to get your fucking ass ripped out.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:05 | 5551376 franzpick
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Crude future down $1.24 to $56.49: watch the unfolding collapse live here:

http://www.investing.com/commodities/crude-oil-advanced-chart

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:25 | 5551420 HardlyZero
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I'm selling some Gold and Silver tomorrow (CEF, Central Fund of Canada), to buy some SRTY.  Then get more CEF later.

But...if the market collapses super bad...then all payouts may be frozen ?  or some SEC might make shorting illegal ? or ... ?

Interesting times.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 20:14 | 5551573 franzpick
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RUT and the other broad indices are still nicely vulnerable up here at 6 year nose-bleed highs: where does SRTY go from 36 when RUT drops from 1150 to supports at 800 and 600?

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=RUT&insttype=&freq=2&show=&time=13

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=srty&insttype=&freq=2&show=&time=20 

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 22:44 | 5552084 The Most Intere...
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Not the collapse i was hoping for, but it'll do...for now.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:08 | 5551378 Ginsengbull
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Ima hafta get my 78 coupe deville back on the road.

 

It gots a 425 cubic inch engine, and goes WAAAHHHHH!

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:25 | 5551415 TheGreatRecovery
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Bullish! (for muscle cars)  Bullish! (for antique cars)  :-)

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:39 | 5551461 NaiLib
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:) I might buy an "antique" car when owners of them are forced out. A car is just a car, a liability, nothing else.


Mon, 12/15/2014 - 19:49 | 5555938 TheGreatRecovery
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I agree.  A car is just a tool.  An expensive tool.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:13 | 5551392 Bernoulli
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We knocked out some folks

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:17 | 5551398 TheGreatRecovery
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THIS is deflation!

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:54 | 5551507 MsCreant
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I wish I knew you were right. The fundamentals have not been relevant in this manipulated casino they are calling a market. Why is this the natural real deal, vs. engineered? Engineered in such a way that they can turn it on a dime and jack the shit again when their goals are met? 

I wish this was the market getting all natural and stuff. 

Tue, 12/16/2014 - 12:30 | 5555991 TheGreatRecovery
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Since most (though not all) of the economists getting published by the MSM today appear to be neoKeynesian economists, and since I consider neoKeynesian jargon to be cover for insider manipulation of the casino, I don't accept their definitions of words.  I accept only what I can actually see.  When I actually see higher prices, I think I see "inflation".  When I actually see lower prices, I think I see "deflation".  Right now, I see lower gas prices at the gas station.  That's what I meant.

And maybe this decline in oil prices is engineered.  Regardless, for me, it is deflation.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:21 | 5551405 Amerikan Patriot
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Could Russian Economic Turmoil Lead to Putin's Downfall? By Jill Dougherty, for CNN In Moscow, prices for consumer goods are rising, and some middle-aged Muscovites are stockpiling reserve goods.

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
  • Consumer prices in Moscow soar, ruble falls, some Russians stockpile essentials
  • Poll shows Russians' confidence in future is fading
  • Russian President Putin blames economic woes on the West; his approval rating still sky-high
  • Russian opposition hopes economic "perfect storm" could bring down Putin regime

Editor's note: Jill Dougherty is a public policy scholar with the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington. She was CNN's Moscow bureau chief for nine years.

Moscow (CNN) -- Russia looks richer in the snow. Muscovites, as they always have, stroll the main boulevard, Tverskaya Street, in their fur coats and hats on snowy evenings, basking in the holiday lights and decorations, their capital transformed into an icy wonderland.

Moscow's coffee shops are full of young Russians still willing to pay 300 to 400 rubles for a latte. But the foreign currency exchange shops I pass are an ominous sign. Just a few weeks ago, 300 rubles was worth about $10. Now, it's about half that.

Thursday, I exchange dollars for rubles and get a rate of 54.20. By Saturday it's 57 rubles to the dollar.

Consumer prices are up about 8% from a year ago. Inflation is growing at its fastest pace in three years. In the food store where I used to shop, I search in vain for my favorite imported cheese. It's fallen victim to Russia's ban on dairy, meat, fruit, poultry, fish and other products imported from the West -- Moscow's retaliation for U.S. and European economic sanctions over its actions in Ukraine.

Even the price of bread, which holds a near-sacred place in Russian popular culture, is rising. The business daily Kommersant reported that bread prices will increase 5% to 10% in the near future due to the rising price of "flour, grain, sugar, foreign raw materials, packing supplies and transportation costs."

Food wholesalers want to adjust consumer prices more frequently, once a week instead of every 45 days, according to the paper.

In Moscow's working-class neighborhoods, the falling ruble is reawakening old fears and old methods of coping with economic uncertainty. Some middle-aged Russians, who lived through the economic chaos of the early 1990s, are beginning to put away reserves of salt, matches, macaroni, flour and other staples.

Middle-class Russians are buying TVs, cars and household appliances, convinced that prices after New Year's will be higher. "Russians live one day at a time," a 40-year-old woman who works for a livery service tells me. "We never know what the future will bring."

A new Russian poll shows that Russians are losing confidence in the future and are making plans for only a few months in advance. In that poll, by VTsIOM, 51% of those questioned said they are confident in the future, down from 61% in the spring of this year. Nearly half said "life is difficult, but bearable."

The U.S. and Europe imposed economic sanctions in response to President Vladimir Putin's actions in Ukraine and Crimea, but Putin blames the West for trying to weaken Russia. His fellow citizens, by and large, agree; Putin's latest public approval rating is an overwhelming 82%.

But some, especially among Russia's beleaguered political opposition, see a silver lining in the economy's woes: the end, sooner or later, of the Putin regime.

"My prognosis? In three years the situation will change," Dmitry Stepanov of the liberal RPR-PARNAS Party told me at an opposition conference in Moscow. "The country is in economic crisis and no one in the government knows how to solve that."

The economy will tank, Stepanov predicted, "and this will elicit mass dissatisfaction among the public. That will activate political battles, and that will lead to a peaceful change of power."

Several people I spoke with at the conference said there's a perfect storm brewing that could sweep Putin from office: low oil prices resulting in plunging profits for Russia, Western sanctions, and a faltering economy. But no one I spoke with wanted that "perfect storm" to end in revolution.

The conference, "Crisis in Russia-E.U. Relations: Causes and Ways Out," was held on December 12, Russia's Constitution Day, and brought together approximately 200 members of the opposition along with some liberal European politicians.

It was co-sponsored by Russia's liberal opposition party, RPR-PARNAS -- short for the Republican Party of Russia/Party of People's Freedom -- and the transnational European party, the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe.

One of the hosts: Mikhail Kasyanov, co-leader of RPR-PARNAS, who served as minister of finance from 1999 to 2000 and as Russia's prime minister from 2000 to 2004. Putin fired him, along with his Cabinet, shortly before running for and winning a second presidential term.

The current Kremlin policy, Kasyanov told me, is "leading nowhere," and he predicted growing economic and political problems.

"We want to force the present leadership of the country, using pressure from society, to change its aggressive course in its international as well as domestic policy and abide by the Russian Constitution," he said.

Just where that pressure will come from, however, is not clear. Historically, the opposition has been divided internally, and so far, Putin has most Russians on his side.

One participant in the conference, who works in a nongovernmental organization and did not want her name used, told me that Putin won't willingly leave power. ""He will never leave of his own accord," she said, "so somebody will have to help him. And they will do that once they are frustrated enough." His inner circle, she said, could turn on him.

"They are Russians like everybody else, so their patience is very, very long," she told me. "One day, however, it will crack. That's what I think. What it will take to crack, I don't know."

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:37 | 5551457 SickDollar
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I speak for all of us here at ZH , please do us a favor and never post anything from CNN or any  MSM crap, it is  worthless info

Hence that is why I am here in the first place

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 19:47 | 5551487 Amerikan Patriot
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Sorry Bob, you're going to have to suck it up and deal with it.  Ad hominem attacks are a logical fallacy, and you've just engaged in one.

Try this instead.  Whenever I post some facts or analysis you don't like, close your eyes and say "lalalalalalalalalalala..." until you've successfully blocked it.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 20:02 | 5551527 IndyPat
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Right. You paste in a piece from CNN.
So we got the propaganda part of the dump. No shortage of that, at all.

When were you going to get to the "facts and analysis" part?

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 20:14 | 5551567 Winston Churchill
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He wouldn't recognise facts or analysis if it bit him in the ass.

Talking of ass, I think he's sexually attracted to Putin, and his antipathy is just

cover for his latent queerdom.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 20:40 | 5551672 Bay of Pigs
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Why doesn't Tyler ban assholes like this troll?

Good grief...what a waste of space this clown is.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 04:50 | 5552686 Augustus
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Asses are revealed when their comments are not related to the information provided.

You are the real Jenny displaying your features.

Sun, 12/14/2014 - 21:39 | 5551843 Real Estate Geek
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Sir, have you no respect for THE "Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars?"  If this institution is named after a fine, upstanding man such as WW, I'm sure that its . . . scholars are veritable beacons of truth and want nothing but the best for their benighted charge.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!