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The Bloodbathery Continues - "Some Folks Were Selling... Everything"
We suspect more than a few are feeling like this after today...
What started out exuberant - with proclamations that oil and stocks had found a bottom - ended badly...
Apart from JPY - which was bid almost 1% against the USD - everything was sold today... Treasury yields up 6bps at the short-end, Oil down over 4% after being up over 1% overnight, gold & silver hammered down 4%, stocks plunged (though Trannies bounced back), credit smashed wider, EM FX crushed, Russian "everything" demolished, and
With 10 minutes to go, THEy got serious and broke the markets to try andget something positive out ofthe day...
And we have a winner: BATS OPTIONS: BATS OPTIONS HAS DECLARED SELF-HELP VS NASDAQ BX
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) December 15, 2014
From Friday's close - quite a roller-coaster for futures...
And Cash equities...
The S&P 500 broke its 50DMA and 100DMA, finding brief support at both...
Russell 2000 notably in the red YTD now...
Credit markets were crushed today...
*S&P/LSTA U.S. LEV LOAN 100 INDEX BID PRICE: 94.5386, -.4373
Treasury yields closed higher on the day - major flattening
FX markets showed very modest USD strength but the drop in USDJPY was the most notable... (strength in JPY)
And last but absolutely not least - commodities were absolutely crushed... PMs and oil...
Close-up on Crude..
And Oil & Silver started to get slammed as the S&P was lifted... It seems between $56 oil and 12ET, the fix was in to save the status quo... but it didn't create the magic...
and then there's Russia...
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S&P as low as 300 in 2015
Janet's buying
If Janet's buying, then wall street would have to shut down. No need for them.
Volatility is coming, just because that is how wall street survives to remain in business
300!! BLOODBATHHH
There was never a need for Wall Street in this society ekm
Unless of course its was really meant as a diversion for wealth transfer for the fuckin zio-bankers.
Agree in principle.
In practice, they are already part of the economy.
It needs a partial wipeout which is preplanned, but there will never be total wipeout
It's my fault...I bought 20 ounces of silver Buffaloes on Saturday.
HOWEVER...I really wanted 40, but I decided to save a little dry powder until I saw what was going to happen today. And guess fucking what?
We got ourselves another sale on phyzz today! Fuck yeah! Just grabbed 20 more for cheaper!
Thanks a lot for the sale today, cartel bitchez...you da best!
So how exactly are you sure today is a sale?
cuz I say it is for me. And if it goes lower tomorrow it's another sale, etc. etc. Works out great for me. If it doesn't for somebody else well that's not my problem.
We sold everything to some folks.
Look.
Why we want to pay moar? 'Cos boom chicky chicky we crazy like dat? Bitcoin will make the perfect stocking stuffer for the young virtual boy or girl in your virtual life. BUY BITCOIN TODAY!!!
https://btc-e.com/
Seriously, Fuck the farce.
Crash and burn motherfuckers!
Goldbug version of reality: Gold is money (true) and when the banksters that control THE WORLD, including all markets, destroy the system, claim nobody saw it coming, and press the reset button, boy that's when they are really going to get it and lose control and gold will ramp to it's true value.
My version of reality: Gold is money, therefore it is the enemy of the people who run they system. When the collapse hits, they will be just fine, they'll hit the reset button and be right there to keep on hammering you.
Continue to tell youself it's a sale and you didn't lose money each time you get hammered, I find it amusing. Being right isn't very helpful when you keep getting hammered. You are playing three card monte. Your mistake is the people in charge don't care about reality, their power comes from the scam they play.
Fiat offset-printed and electronic FRN in exchange for a barbarous relic which only has 3000 years of big data going for it; what could go wrong with fractional reserve notgeld or is that federal reserve notes?
your wrong about the system masters. they love gold and have this little scehe going that gets them gold. They want moar and will keep this up as long as they can. these people are wealthy famalies and they know their history. they know whats down the pipe and gold will be their lifeboat. Its not that they want gold out of the masses hands they just want moar gold.
Who cares about the rich? They will go extinct once they lose control; and they know that.
That will be few safe places for them.
The Ticking Time Bomb
Their demise will come from the demographic on the bottom of the pyramid.
Once that demographic starts running low in food and energy. The German Holocaust and ISIL executions will be seen as child play.
The Power Elites know that; but we are not supposed to talk. Or even worse, not even think about that.
But you can’t say you didn’t see it coming…. Not here.
The Spirit in the Gene: Humanity’s Proud Illusion – Reg Morrison (1999)
“In times of stress, the genes assume control and reason disappears.”
http://www.amazon.com/The-Spirit-Gene-Humanitys-Illusion/dp/0801436516/ref=pd_ybh_19
The Revolt Against Civilization – T. Lothrop Stoddard
“… the downbreeding of existing European populations and of how the worst elements of society are continually outbreeding the best, leading to lower average Iqs and civilizational levels.”
http://www.amazon.com/Revolt-Against-Civilization-Lothrop-Stoddard/dp/1471051773/ref=pd_ybh_10
I wonder what it woudl be like to go through life as a "T. Lothrop Stoddard"...
Hellow I say, My name is T, T Lothrop Stoddard.....
punched in the face a fair slug?
In theory I agree. I fiqure the Roth's the Rock's, etc. are sitting on piles and piles of gold silver land. They will remain after the collapse. And pass go collect 200 and start buying it up. What the elite seem to have is incredible patience and willingness to pass a game on generation to generation despite being selfish, they play for the long run. They generally hate mankind and humanity, like the terminator they just don't die.
Escrav:
You forgot to include The Population Bomb by Paul R. Ehrlich in your list above.
(Sarc)
I still have the exact same number of ounces of shiny as when the day started.
How exactly am I getting hammered by the supression of the paper price, assmaggot?
300? THIS. IS. S&Parta
Well played, sir.
So Britney Spears shaving her head and getting kicked into the bottomless pit is?
Babylonian cunts. Fuck Wall Street
Ima buy a couple ak's for 450 a piece from atlantic firearms. Fuck the markets right now
Pay the extra hundred and get the Romanian RPK
I may be backwards but I'm still stackin colt le's and all the FEDrxm556t3s I get my hands on
When they outlaw russian ammo, 7.62x39 will be going for a buck a round.
LasVegasdave,your spot on. Was thinking about that ever since the ban on Russkie Arms. Just a matter of time. Ill be adding. Cheap steel case ammo will be done.
Yeah, those RPK's are tanks. Little on the heavy side,but no recoil. They all go bang.
why do you have to insult the Babylonians
Do you know any Babylonians?
Everyone in North America.
There are quite a few on Eastern Long Island.
I got that
+1
My sentiments exactly.
"There was never a need for Wall Street in this society ekm.
Unless of course it was really meant as a diversion for wealth transfer for the fuckin zio-bankers."
You're an astute fucker, aren't you? :-)
Ass toot - I thought that was when Wall Street ballers dumped a buncha blow in a hooker's bung hole, snorted out most, and rammed the rest up her poop chute fora loooooonnnng ride.
Great Point!
Stock Markets are legalized frauds. The sheeple are going to learn the hard way.
Get ready for when the oil price war ends and there’s no rebound.
They will start write down the debt. That will buy The Power Elites some time before SDR’s…. Another nonsense Bank-Money.
You and your sdr's. We have a world currency. It's called the US dollar; the cleanest dirty shirt.
The dollar will collapse as soon as we run out of zeros.
Sorry, the posh kids always win.
cornflakesdisease
“… as species, as culture, we’re significance junkies” -- Carl Sagan
The Death of Money: The Coming Collapse of the International Monetary System by James Rickards
“IMF is the ultimate backup when central banks fail.”
http://www.amazon.com/The-Death-Money-Collapse-International/dp/1591846706/ref=pd_ybh_7
Read it. Jim's a great guy. I've corresponded with him and his understanding of Roman history (especially monitary) is amazing.
http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2010/7/26_J...
http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2010/7/28_J...
Carl Sagan? Sorry, bumbling fool. As a chemist, I can't subscribe to the religion of evolution. DNA is computer code. Could never have came about by chance. It was engineered. Never listen to someone who tells you some lies and some truth. They have no wisdom.
But anyways,
All you need to know:
http://oneradionetwork.com/the-real-world-of-money/
http://www.amazon.com/Secret-World-Money-Andrew-Gause-ebook/dp/B0074AG09...
Sorry, Dollar, Inc is far more powerful then your can imagine.
The Anglo-American world power is that last and final world power. Not a lot of time left.
Not crazy about Sagan at all; but I like that quote by him.
Anyway, as a chemist, what’s you take about this exchange:
An interesting debate that took place some years ago between Carl Sagan, the well-known astrophysicist, and Ernst Mayr, the grand old man of American biology. They were debating the possibility of finding intelligent life elsewhere in the universe.
And Sagan, speaking from the point of view of an astrophysicist, pointed out that there are innumerable planets just like ours. There is no reason they shouldn't have developed intelligent life.
Mayr, from the point of view of a biologist, argued that it's very unlikely that we'll find any. And his reason was, he said, we have exactly one example: Earth. So let's take a look at Earth. And what he basically argued is that intelligence is a kind of lethal mutation ... you're just not going to find intelligent life elsewhere, and you probably won't find it here for very long either because it's just a lethal mutation ...
He pointed out that if you take a look at biological success, which is essentially measured by how many of us are there, the organisms that do quite well are those that mutate very quickly, like bacteria, or those that are stuck in a fixed ecological niche, like beetles. They do fine. And they may survive the environmental crisis. But as you go up the scale of what we call intelligence, they are less and less successful. By the time you get to mammals, there are very few of them as compared with, say, insects.
If nothing significant is done about it, and pretty quickly, then he will have been correct: human intelligence is indeed a lethal mutation. Maybe some humans will survive, but it will be scattered and nothing like a decent existence, and we'll take a lot of the rest of the living world along with us.
http://www.chomsky.info/talks/20100930.htm
By the way: Agree with your last two paragraphs.
If the creator and engineer of DNA doesn't step in soon, human beings are toast. Humans are failures at ruling themselves as they have tried every form of self rule under the sun with no success. Since the mid 20th century, they now possess the means to destroy themselves.
Though many like to denigarte their fellow citizens as "sheep", that is for the most part what humans are. They are nesters and herders. It just makes them more suseptible to being fleeced, but it isn't a bad thing to be mild, benevolent, or good natured in a world full of wolves. It's just that humans can be easily manipulated; rather then by our knowledge, but our more base like instincts and urges; greed, selfishness, lack of empathy.
Intelligence and human's qualities do set humans apart from simpiler life forms, that is true. But I wouldn't call it lethal. Humans just have no guidence as a whole and a whole lot of bad influence. While you quote the above, I would lean more toward a spiritual explanation of mankind's state of affairs.
The inner workings of the cell and DNA is what did it for me on the matter of evolution. As a chemist, I've spent my professional life make coatings that are inert to acids and own a small business that manufactures them. A life time of research and study, but I still can't do better then a lowly barnicle. In fact, it is often from nature we borrow our "new" discoveries and designs.
I am convinced that life was designed. Symbiosis is another convincing factor in the natural world; the orchid that can't pollinate without the help of a an insect that wasn't on the scene for eons before it was, the tree seed that has to pass through the digestive tract of a bird to active itself to grow, the wasp that injects a chemical into an accorn and turns it into a gall, actually altering it's DNA. Sorry, tornados don't whip through junk yards and form 747's as an end result. Nor does sticking an iron rod through a stero make it play better.
Certainly you have read John Perkins' writings and understand how the world really works. Certainly you know that their are no accidents in government. Japan, Germany, and all conquered lands by Dollar, Inc are firmly under the boot of "the boys".
Chatam House, the CFR, those wiley Fabian socialists.
If you are a bible reader, you know that this is all bible prophecy.
Intersting thing about Jim Rickards, I asked him what he reads on a daily basis wether in print or on the internet and he said just The Wall Street Journal and The National Catholic Register.
Eccl 12:12 "As for anything besides these, my son, be warned: To the making of many books there is no end, and much devotion to them is wearisome to the flesh."
If this is, as you say, "all Bible prophecy" then Rickards and others would do well to just skip the WSJ (economic propaganda) and the NCR (babylonian paganism propaganda) and just read the Bible.
I would hope.
We were "grubered"
Thats exactly what it was, bingo.
Are you saying the S&P is going to drop 1700 points in 2015?
Yes, pre-planned
While I don't dispute that call based on the demand for liquidity in a global route like the long-depression or the tulip panic, I am curious: because you have a SPX 300 call, then clearly you must also be going 1 level deeper in your bottoms up approach to the index. With that in mind mr.sellside what is your 2015 TP for XOM, CVX, P&G and KO.
No snark intended, just ZH these days is getting long nutbars. So either your bottoms up models are totally out of whack with everything printed, or you have something great to share. Saying 50% of the index is 0/sh is a bit Rich. If you had said 666 or 980, then I may believe you. If you had a full up model that showed 300, then you would have shared it when down was at 2100. As such, deduction suggests you are picking a number out your ass.
Amuse us.
My model is geopolitical and is in my mind.
I'm afraid you may be 6 months early at worst and the CRASH BOOM DROP happens by April 2016
But you will be right again.
Rubles are cheap here. I don't think Putin will disappoint.
aVileRat
So, consider this one:
By B9K9: There is only one possible way to ameliorate the effects of further extend the Ponzi for some indeterminable amount of time: Ceterum censeo Russia esse delendam.
With Russia incorporated into the USD reserve system, new $trillions of hard assets can be lent, leveraged, re-hypothecated, and otherwise churned into the pool of global derivatives that keep the game afoot. Without Russia as a vassal state, the US/EU will be forced to move more aggressively into mandating specific targeted growth and sector expenditures to keep the debt balloon expanding.
Once you understand these basic principles of how the world actually works, then it’s quite easy – trivial actually – to piece the puzzle together. With an undeclared war, all possible resources are brought to bear, including any advantages the West possesses in military, diplomatic, financial and media.
We know of the first three, but I would be literally astounded if we weren’t incredibly active in trying to persuade young Russians to give up the fight and join the consumption party. Think of the deal they could cut to have first priority on newly printed reserves: just like Americans & Europeans, they would no longer have to work, but could spend their days shopping with endless credit card balances for products built by Chinese & India (virtual) slaves.
But there’s a downside as well, and that is that current Russian leadership isn’t going to stand idly around. They too will attack Western weaknesses and exploit the lack of mono culture, strong family networks and huge welfare dependencies. A reverse ‘fast & furious’ gun running scheme to funnel military grade weapons to inner cities would be obvious.
But the real great danger is for Americans to oppose these actions. In war, civil liberties are curtailed/suspended; those publicly admiring Putin and criticizing US war efforts will rue the day they so stupidly sided with the wrong team.
http://ourfiniteworld.com/2014/12/07/ten-reasons-why-a-severe-drop-in-oil-prices-is-a-problem/#comment-49214
B9K9 used to post here..........smart dude for sure........
''The solution is to look at the problem from a different angle - that is, the Chosen's point of view. From this angle, we can see that usury, in all its glory, is the one consistent tool in which to enslave men. Governments are no fools - on the contrary, they not only understand perfectly well what is transpiring, but in fact exact tribute via outright extortion. This relationship has been ongoing for thousands of years - it's completely SOP.''
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/quote-week#comment-1822852
Thanks for the link.... I start laughing when I saw akak as well.
By the way, I knew about B9K9 postings at Zero Hedge.
it was a great tread.........Trav7777 was there too
TY, usurious, for the link.
He probably is picking a number of his ass. But if the S&P were to go down, not 1700 0oint but only a couple of hundred. The credibility crisis it will trigger will indeed unravel all current models and anybody's estimate on the bottom panic will as good as his ass.
With the amount of margin at work, plus leverage on the shadow banking system, plus the CDS market crashing big time due to insolvency will trigger an unraveling 9f the web offnpromises expos8sng the underlying acciunting gimmicks currently at play in all major funancial institutions, that will fee dback on itself triggering more unraveling of then gains the index had from 2009 to now.
In conclussi9n his ass maybe better model than most analytical models today.
Spine01
I can't tell what our central bank’s monetary policies will be from month to month to try to hold this Ponzi scheme going.
I can't tell what our political priests will be telling to the people that are unable to think for themselves.
But I can tell you this with 99% of certainty; “Our lifestyle Ponzi scheme will reach its inevitable conclusion of catastrophic failure, one way or another.”
So, enjoy while you can, when the people with the low IQ (people that can’t think for themselves) realized it is over; then, life will change forever.
me, i can tell you the system is not allowed to crash for one an very basic reason, that even you can understand. masses are in control until they have empty belly.
humanity is like this, you can forbid everything, as long they have stomac full , no problem. why the fuck you think monsanto is trying to own the world wide agriculture....
crash from past was smalls crash, temporary, on lifetime scale this is nothing, ( ie: someone born in 1900, die at 80 years, knew 2 WW, then died in great 80' ? ) had he a poor life ? no, he lived a fantastic change, terrific ones, war etc... but overall... that is a great parcour.
even if ponzi crash like you say, then what can happen, ppl self kill each others, renew with home growth vegetable ? self defense, no more dumb police ? no tax ? no money just raw exchange ? FINE !
technology killed 2 generation pf ppl, too much computers and BS, kids raised front of TV, this is crap, no education = dangerous masses, ( explain also why terrorists are fucking dumbfucks )
just because actually money control everything, you remove money you have not a fucking single peanut of pressure anymore from elites to the masse. conclusion : ? elite become pointless, meaningless, so, they disapear by nature over time.
the angle, the P.O.V... every fucking one on earth try to earn money out of the ass to BE LIKE ELITE. 99% cannot go up to match the 1%. the movement is idiotic. remove the top 1%, then every one on the 99% look each others and realize they are already the same.... boom, job done.
for years you cannot learn a clue about how the world turn on MSM. ppl are tighten in darknass and ignorance, why in school they do not teach own money is created from air....
what wait for us is a slow, long, painfull observation for ppl who know that the world population is beeing formated minds and deleted abilities to see weakness of the system, invisible is in front of eyes, system errect failure as a model to follow.
nothing can be done to the ppl. they have to move by themselves. will they ? nope, why ? comfy situation to not move and wait for others to fall 1st.
we are at a civilization corner, where WEST want to keep system in place, and EAST who know the rules, decided to free themselfves from that monster and recover liberty to think and act without obeying to anyone.
there is 2 way to solve this conflit:
1) world population kick GOVs and rewrite a fair system, in peace.
2) WEST vs EAST in blood.
choose your destiny.
Since you desire amusement...well..so do I.
I doubted ekm1's call for Oil when I first read it. But I thought about it and then made my own. My own call for $60 was blown through within weeks. (I did not consider the Exponential Function well enough.)
I believe that his call will be realized a lot sooner than I thought possible. (So much for my previous thinking...)
But since I also desire amusement just what modeling are you using that contradicts ekm1's call?
Exponential Growth leads to Exponential Collapse in any adiabatic system.
While, in theory, the ceiling for the SPX is unlimited as Currency Printing can be unlimited
But, practically speaking, the evaluations of SPX would be meaningless as it would be a result of Hyperinflation (NOT DUE TO REAL ECONOMIC GROWTH) which would destroy and purchasing power of the Currency. Thus for practical purposes the Currency Supply is also an adiabat.
First you will get a Deflationary Meltdown. This is what is currently happening. Then you will get the following Hyperinflation as there is NO POLITICAL WILL TO ALLOW DEFLATION. They will print but the Deflationary events must overwhelm them first. Then they will overreact as they usually do.
Now I disagree with Harry Dent's demographic and geopolitical models because of the lack of Political Will to see them through. Furthermore the is a difference between the 1930s Deflationary Depression and what is happening this time. During the 1930s the USA did not carry anywhere near as much of a Debt Load as today. The POLITICIANS of that era did not like the idea of going into debt. Thus FDR seized the Gold, devalued the USD, and then used that Gold Reserve to print off more USDs. Today we do not have that luxury. See...Greg Hunter's recent interview with Dent on www.USAWatchdog.com
So whom is to say that ekm1's target of SPX300 will not be realized? I understand that it reads as almost incredible. But then 8 weeks ago I would have also believed that $55 Oil was an incredible prognostication...until I thought about it.
But here we are. So just what information do you have that counters his prognostication? Or are you pulling numbers out of your ass?
Now that will be amusing. Please continue.
"Yes, pre-planned"
You may be right. After all, the bankers just got their bets covered by the taxpayers via 535 assholes.
memories are short....2009 started in 2007
It started especially in 1913 when the fed came to power. Wars and killing ever since.
Genghis Khan, Crusades, 100 Years War, and for USA >1812 (england & canada who just celebrated it as a victory!)(Cherokee Trail), 1848(mexico), 1865(yanks and rebs)(Wounded Knee/Geronimo), 1898(spain) ....there have been lots of times when war was always there. Why, once, we even had a Cold War.
Let's be reasonable and look for a better way out this time, the age-old dream.
The equity markets may have topped in late 2007, but the credit markets were starting to show distress in 2006. Feb 2007 was my "oh shit" moment in which I changed my outlook going forward and starting to pay much closer attention to the capital markets.
the solution? cut everyone a income check. Like Saudi Arabia!
http://hedgeaccordingly.com/2014/12/how-to-fix-poverty-write-every-famil...
I like that. Check's in the mail. JUst like waiting for the great pumpkin, just can't wait...
Dam't Janet....I'm getting SRTY long.
Every day Janet is getting longer...and I'm getting shorter.
Feels like "Janet in Wonderland".
Well, (s)he any maybe Jamie too.
She better be buying a large stockpile of Depends adult diapers for herself, she's gonna be needing them! I always said granny was put in there to take the hit for the collapsing Bernank bubble.
The Bernank is making $200,000 per speech. No Bernank collapse in his family.
She doesn't need diapers, she shits right out her mouth. Did you not notice her brownish drool?
That's her Redman oozing out the side of her mouth.
Texas City Dyke
"We bloodbathed some folks"
"Dammit janet" lets do the QE-warp again!!!
I'm starting a business in Russia, Perfect time at these exchange rates and terms of trade. Russia is the is now the place to invest thanks to the CIA.
Russian Ruble loses 13.28% in one day!!!
http://www.kitco.com/gold_currency/index.html?currency=rub&timePeriod=d&flag=exchangeRate&otherChart=no
It may or may not be important. We'll see.
Financial war is pure and simple declaration of real war. That is how Putin sees it.
at some point in time(soon) this gets real and nasty. reverse rolls and think...
I am suprised it hasn't happened, how much more of this is Putin and Russia willing to take?
Putin's military power gets weakened if far from Russia's borders. He doesn't have bases worldwide.
He is limited with what he can do.
Locally, too strong.
In he mediterranean? Weak.
The Gold Ruble is near.
He does have subs and tactical nuclear weapons to keep the mad dogs at bay if he decides to take some action around the world. I think this game is being orchestrated with the Chinese, they dont like to rock the boat too much. Russia has access to deeeep pockets next door. They can wait this one out, the Chinese are benefiting from the western meddling in the markets. They will maximize their profits and keep the Russians going after all this play against Russia is good economics for China. But they know that if Russia falls they are the next ones on the list of the west.
i am trying to pic whom(s) are calling the shots? military taking directives from fed owners?
cordinating sa to keep producing for protection and nice girls? shouldn't be to awefull complicated...
Fed owners take directives from military
And of course there is no military solution.
The FEDs owners are sociopathic gangsters. It is difficult to predict what they might do next except that you can be sure that no matter how much grief is caused by their actions it will never stop until they are dead.
war is last solution when all diplomatic ways have failed....
....pls hold on...........
The war is against his oligarch buddies. They are the ones who got this ruble rout going. Puti even tried to entice them---or at least their money---back with his speech last week when the ruble was 10-12 handles higher than now. Apparently they didn't trust him. They know Russian history too well.
In years past, Puti browbeat the Russian banks to loan all their money to these same oligarchs. Why not; it's only the masses money. Now the banks are hurting so bad that last week he had to bail them out by using (what was then) the $81 National Wealth Fund.
But everybody loves the little guy. RT tells me so, and far be it for me to question a State-controlled "news" source.
Horseshit. The war is against Russia and Balkanizing the freaking place. The algos have been set loose and any explanation otherwise is, well, horseshit. I could give a shit what happens to Russia, but the reaction could be the kind that gets a lot of people killed. This is my problem to the whole thing....a consolidation of the entirety of the world into a small few hands who see us all as chattel.
EDIT:
This was removed from the April 16 release in favour of a more diplomatic approach.
Listen up. Russia's has a total debt of about 785 billion with about a 2.2 trillion economy. Basically about a 1/4 years worth. They have 485 billion in reserves so they could basically pay half of it off tommorrow. Russia is not going anywhere.
Now this place is 18 trillion in the hole and can't pay this in our lifetimes with ZERo reserves and a ponzi sheme circle jerk trying to finance it..
Now I ask you who is more worried?
They are.
We're going to dafault and screw the shit out of everyone who was in on all the dirty deals done dirt cheap.
Yea, Yea go ahead and start the little Ukraine war and find out what cost more and 1800 mile supply line or driving a tank 100 miles across the border.
The rest of the world just wants to be free of these broke ass parasites so they can get on with it while the US and Europe dawdles.
And besides Russia already sold all but a few US treasuries a few years back, they ain't that stupid, and only hold a token amount. Us defaulting wont affect them in the least. As for finacial terrorism which is what you see now well it pisses them off but they are in good relativly good shape oil or no.
The little spoiled rich kid bully who lost all his money is a craps game might watch out before he gets his nose bloodied.
Nice rant.
How come you get four tits and I only get two? That's not fair.
You asked who was more worried.
Their currency just crashed 13% in a single day and then they cranked up interest rates by 50% in the middle of the night.
Who in the hell do you think is more worried, huh?
That's just no gold-man sacks trying to use a crooked FX market to create some havoc because the New BRICS bank scares them shitless. Think of it as two mafia gangs getting mad because someone is moving into their turf. Bad for bidness.
So who do I think is more worried. Easy, just look at who is trying to start all the shit.
And, you can have all 4 tits because its not a rant, its reality.
Does it make me mad? Hell no im lovin it. Just picked a nice chunk of Petrobras PBR stock today for about a 5er PE @ 6 dollars and change. First time Ive bought long in prolly 4 years and I said I wouldnt play anymore in their croocked casino, but heck if your going to give it away. I love it when two guys fight, just stand back and watch what falls out of their pocket. Hope it goes to 5 or 4 so I can double down. Hey Putin, did you hear what Obamy said about your Mother? Bring it bitcheZ
Hmmm, so you don't like Goldman Sachs stirring up geopolitical turmoil in order to make money but decided to jump back in and pick up some loose change yourself as long as it was happening anyhow.
Everyone has their price at the crooked casino, my man, and you just established what yours is. Petrobras is pretty corrupt in its own right, so far as I hear, even more so than your average oil company. So I guess it's okay for an honest man to rifle through their pocketses.
Honestly can't say if I would do the same since I spend all my money as fast as I can exchange it for capital goods.
Every one of these big Corporations are corrupt and crooked to the core. The worst thing about PBR has always been that its part owned by the Brazilian gov't . This means that if that looney toon Wilma comes out and says tommorrow that Petrobras needs to use some of their profits to say built out the electrical grid for the nation or something equally stupid only a Politician is capable of dreamin up, then yes yer fuked. Thats called risk, and this should not be construed as investment advice.
But if your trying to make a guilt trip for making a stock purchase rather than blowin everything on so called capital goods, for your county of course, you might be on the wrong site. Careful now your true colors are startin ta bleed through. Is that troll green I detect? of course it is mr. CNBC or is it Langley. yer gonna have to wake up earlier in the morning to get ahead of me lil fella. I was just reelin you in.
Corporations are only as corrupt as the people in them.
Evil is not a quality that inanimate objects can posess.
Just like guns can't be evil. They are a tool to be used. We decide if it's for good or evil.
Gasp, my cover is blown. Yes, it's true. I'm definitely a deep cover troll for CNBC. That' why I deride people who buy stocks rather than starting their own hamster farms.
not a wise idea
to rifle thru another mans pockets
you might not like
what you find ...
Confucius once say...
Man with hole in pocket
Feel cocky all day.
cowdiddly - i believe he is correct. WE are stirring up the shit. and WE are scared.
russia is the one being an actual capitalist, finally, attempting to trade with the world and get the best price possible.
we still go into every country we find - that doesn't give us their resources at the price (next to free) that we request, and put a gun to their head.
enjoy it now kids, because this sort of thing has never gone on forever. and NOBODY in general population - and i include boogie-down hasn't worked in 3 generations, except the few made it to nba or rap - has ever lived this well.
we should all be giving great thanks (that holiday passed, destroyed by 'shopping'). christmas is next. a time for being thankful for having so much in the coming dark, cold days of winter.
i'm so thankful, i'm home, i'm warm and dry and i have food. i'm really not joking. i lived so many years with little or no heat/hot water in northern regions, but i was young.
now - i do not want that. and i do not with it on others, even if i have to subsidize them to some degree. i'm fine with that.
peace. love to your neighbor.
Why disagree? Can't you agree that everyone's a loser?
Well spoken sir.
Generally speaking this has ended in war in the past. Anyone see where we parked those Abram's in Latvia?
Fuck it just EMP us and we will lose 90% of the pop in a couple months.
No juice, no water, bye bye bitchezz
No phone, no light, no motorcar,
Not a single luxury
Like Robinson Crusoe
It's primitive as can be.
I for one am going to miss all you inner city types preaching down to me about racism and multiculturalism. Bring on the EMPs if you must, I don't watch TV and won't miss The Voice one bit.
I've been telling people for years ..."when the power goes out for an extended period , not a few days but weeks or months , you are done your very existance will cease to be" and ofcourse they deny it then we get a storm and the power goes out for 6 hours the whole fuckin town is going ape shit scared 10,000 calls an hour to the elec co stores closed no cash registers working dolts can't make change and keep inventory on paper etc etc and this only after a 6 hour outage LMFAO ...the carnage will be un-imaginable especially in the libtard multicultural multiracial utopian shitties they'll be killing each other in about 2 days tops..so much for racial equality then it'll be open season on everyone .... you want a mad max world just kill the power. no need for nukes none at all... and no one ever thinks about this seriously ... talk to people about it they have all kind of fantasy answers for you lol it's a sad world we live in truly fucking sad and completely ignorant
Pretty much hits the definition of 'blood in the streets"
how long till Eugenia pays me?
Goes to show this is all engineered by the powers that be. Why would Russia's currency fall almost 14% in one day, seriously? The country has the largest world resources in oil, gas, wood and water to name a few.
In the meantime, how are the currencies of Norway and middle-east nations holding up? That's one thing I would like to know.
It's so sickening what those people can do.
Can't wait for the comments from that "Disabled Vet", who apparently rejoices in having been disabled so that Wall Street sharks could make hundreds of millions.
The one thing about what they are doing to Russia is this: if they can do it to Russia, they can do it to anybody, including their own people. This puts the major collapse of 2008 in perspective. And it definitely puts to rest any notions that "markets" were ever free.
The REAL bit of news I am still waiting for (from RT or ZH) is how today's scheduled Life-test went for Russia's replacement to SWIFT, that I affectionately like to call "RIFT" (out of my sense of smart-ass humor).
Also waiting on news on those non-stop airlifts of US hi-tech arms are going toward E. Ukraine's airports, and if Putin will take it like a man or dish it out like one. I see lots of potential for sexual metaphors here, if not actual "thermo-kinetic activities" being exchanged. And...
Should the Israeli Air Force not go in and bomb the sh*t out of those airports also? -- given that it would not be Kosher for Russia to do so. Who knows, Bibi baby, Hezbollah just might be hiding out in E. Ukraine, for all you know. ;-)
dosvedanya folks. fluffers gone awol on ths thread
I've been short some RSX. Not enough.
When it opened today below $15 I covered. Expensive early out.
However, there are some real assets in Russia and traded as part of RSX. I don't know the bottom but it is not a Go to Zero like a Pets.com.
That adventure in Crimea is sure getting expensive for Putin.
Can we make sure FSB Tyler isn't near an open window in a tall building?
@ekm
QE4eva long before that.
Already happened, USD/JPY
Time for QE5...
If that happens, I'll sell everything I own and buy stawks.
"We ripped off some folks"
... S&P as low as 300 in 2015
Beware, the oracle from "the navel of the world" (aka Toronto) has spoken... What a moron !
A lot of these predictions rest upon the JudeoChristian notion that someday the wicked will be brought to judgment. Sorry, the world is NOT fair, and if the system collapses, you are just going to have another manipulated market, not fair value. The bad people are not going away.
China PMI flashing recession signals. Macau casinos are empty. So much for the 7% growth
All is fair in love and war.
Looks like I should roll my puts out a little further. It's not going down fast enough.
I wonder what the RUS/SHIT exchange rate is
Buy Priceline, Lululemon, Twitter, Alibaba, Salesforce.com, Amazon & count your PROFITS.
BTFD, cause YellenStank is comin' to town!
That's because you only saw the "Santa Clause". Rated PG-13 (for Sheeple).
I, on the other hand, read the fine print of the "Satan Clause". Rated XXX, R, Z (i.e. for Dirty, Adult Zionists). Not that there's anything wrong with XXX or R.
We need an Algo that trades against existing Algo trades.
Realtime.
Algore trades are as predictable as global warming.
We'll all soon be eating Alpo thanks to the algos.
..... could be worse ... btw, I hear some kibbles are mighty tasty.
I made an Alpo burrito for someone long ago.
Moral of the story:
DO NOT FRY ALPO!!!!
At least not in your own house.
Eat it cold out of the can, if you must, but
DO NOT FRY ALPO!!!!
At some point the algos will gain sentience and start trading people.
I think they made a movie series about that. It involved Skynet.
We've already passed the singularity - the machines control Wall Street.
Where's a Bulltard when you need him?
Honestly - this is just the big banks shorting a few things to try to force the Fed to not tighten, and to keep the 'sustain the bubble' language in place. And do you really think Mr. Yellen is going to let the US Market drop more than 2% without hinting at the next QE? I predict a dovish statement from the Fed and a big market recovery later this week.
Yellen will give double meaning to HO HO HO!
she will finally show us her petrified lips
yuck
No chart on the schizo VIX?
No biggee, just some "Hoggs" get'n slaughterd!
need to listen when MY MAIN MAN speaks
We rectally fed some folks.
It just never seems to get old, lol
We deleted some folks.