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Russian Food Suppliers Have Begun Halting Shipments

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Until now, when it comes to the fallout in the Russian economy from the crude price plunge leading to a collapse in the Russian currency, most of the interest has been on how the Russian financial system recovers and/or survives and just as importantly, what Putin's response would be. Just yesterday, we wrote that as a result of capital controls fears, many western banks led by Goldman Sachs had halted liquidity to Russian clients and other local entities.

However while the adverse impact on the Russian banking system has been mostly confined to the upper class - since there is virtually no middle class in the country to speak of - the second cold war of words, which rapidly morphed into a very hot financial war, is about to hit the very ordinary Russian on the street, because as Russia's Vedomosti reports, citing vegetable producer Belaya Dacha, juice maker Sady Pridoniya and others, Russian suppliers are suspending food shipments to stores because of unpredictable FX movements. And it is about to get worse: very soon Russians may have to live without imported alcohol because at least on supplier of offshore booze, Simple, halted shipments in "a two-day pause” to see what happens with the ruble, Vedomosti reports.

The full story from Vedomosti:

Food retailers are faced with a halt in the supply of deliveries, according to both suppliers and retailers. The main reason - the jumps in the currency jumps and the devaluation of the ruble, which makes it impossible to plan activities in the current environment.

 

The largest domestic producer of juices "Gardens of the Don" has suspended shipment of products at the old prices to a number of trading companies due to the sharp depreciation of the ruble, the company said. The reason is that the cost of its products is more than 70% denominated in foreign currencies.

Gardens of the Don will ship products "first of all to all network companies who understand the situation and accept the new prices." From 16 to 21 December 2014 the company has suspended shipping to merchants who did not give a definitive answer on the adoption of higher prices, explained the producer of such juices as "Gardens of the Don" "Golden Russia" "My" "Juicy world" and others.

 

Shipments were also stopped by a major distributor and importer of alcohol, Simple, told "Vedomosti" an employee of a major retailer. He was informed yesterday that the Simple warehouse would be closed. A company representative confirmed the suspension: the company took "a two-day pause."

 

"We, as a company that depends on the value of currencies, can do nothing in this situation. We are putting prices in rubles, prices in Uslovniye Yedintsy (UY) or 'conditional units' are not acceptable under the current laws - reported a representative Simple CEO Maxim Kashirin. "Buying the currency now or taking out a bank loan, is impossible: banks will not finance receivables ".

 

According to him, restaurants and retailers will pay with a long delay, the federal network - up to several months.

 

Kashirin says that Simple hopes to resume the next day delivery, but "The decision will largely depend on what will happen on the foreign exchange market." "If everything will fluctuate with the speed with which fluctuates now, we will not be able to give a long delay, great discounts. Most likely, we will be forced to sell, let's say, on a prepaid basis" he fears.

 

Large fish suppliers that operate on imported raw materials, have also begun to suspend deliveries. December 16 during the "Orgy" period in the foreign exchange market, the company suspended shipments to counterparties for one day, told "Vedomosti" employee of a large fishing company. According to him, the company now operates in normal mode, the issue of increasing prices is discussed. However, due to the sharp depreciation of the ruble with all counterparties company now works exclusively on a prepaid basis: "There are no delays."

And so on.

Which is why tomorrow's annual address by Putin to the nation will be, as has been dubbed, his "moment of truth" because while patriotic fervor is still high and the population is willing to suffer runaway inflation for a short period of time, even the greatly suffered Russian population will meet its breaking point. The question is when, and whether that will take place before or after the US shale industry reaches its own breaking point, at which point Saudi Arabia will finally release the price of oil which it has, according to all the "supply-siders", been holding back. Alas, as we and others have demonstrated, that breaking point will most certainly not come for many more months to come. Which means that Putin better find an alternative soon, because if and when the food (and vodka) of Russians' is impaired, then things have a tendency to get very bad.

 

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Wed, 12/17/2014 - 18:54 | 5565567 RaceToTheBottom
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Bitcoin biatches!!!!

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 18:57 | 5565575 johngaltfla
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You just know Putin is gonig to retaliate while Obama attends an NBA game over the Christmas holidays to piss that son of a bitch off on live television by making him leave the game early.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:03 | 5565601 negative rates
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Stock up bitches.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:08 | 5565628 Xibalba
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WWIII in the making here, and just in time for the holidaze diztractions

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:20 | 5565676 johngaltfla
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WWIII began about 4 hours ago according to the State Department:

 

Obama already signed new ‘Russia sanctions bill’ – State Department

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:26 | 5565699 suteibu
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The country/company that takes a risk to sell Russia liquor or anything else in the face of US actions against Russia will be rewarded down the road by the loyalty of the Russian people.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:00 | 5565864 TheAnalOG
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Wed, 12/17/2014 - 22:34 | 5566460 DoChenRollingBearing
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Welcome back.  Sending BTC to Russia might be very lucrative if you can find a good way to do it.  Like w/ Argentina.

Bitcoin glitchez have me disheartened lately though.  Maybe I'll just cash them in for gold.

Note to IRS: At a loss!

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 23:51 | 5566701 TheAnalOG
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Hi dochen bearing.  We roll and roll.  Help we roll away the stone.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 00:28 | 5566875 MEAN BUSINESS
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DCRB, would you be willing to elaborate on "Bitcoin glitchez"? TIA

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 21:28 | 5566213 tarabel
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the United States isn't sanctioning the importation of food, liquor, or other such goodies.

It is Russia which forbids their importation.

Ergo, anyone who breaks the blockade is going to have to answer to Grandmother Putin.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 23:09 | 5566595 suteibu
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The unstable ruble is causing companies to stop exporting to Russia.  That's the way I read it.  Of course, it stretches credibility to believe the US/West is not causing the weak ruble.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 04:59 | 5567330 Oracle 911
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We will read in the future "Russian food importing and suppling oligarchs sentenced to x years in prison in Chukotka".

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 21:51 | 5566312 nufio
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so what is this food group that russia seems to be importing a lot so as to affect the common people. if champagne became more expensive in russia, who gives a shit 

http://atlas.media.mit.edu/profile/country/rus/

from that chart the total food import is less than 2% of russias imports.

So the fall in ruble is probably going to affect germany (selling cars) more than russia. 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:04 | 5565874 Fun Facts
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DC/Metro area weather forecast:

Cloudy/Overcast

Wind E 750mph

Temperature 10,000 degrees F

Gamma ray index - stay indoors

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:04 | 5565878 TheAnalOG
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We manhole is shut!

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 21:01 | 5566103 JR
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"...western banks led by Goldman Sachs had halted liquidity to Russian clients and other local entities."-- Tyler Durden

We have no business allowing Goldman Sachs to use our currency for their criminal activities: assaulting sovereign nations, and squeezing the estates of everyday Americans.

"It is easy to conceive that great evils to our country and its institutions might flow from such a concentration of power in the hands of a few irresponsible to the people.  Controlling our currency, receiving our public moneys, and holding thousands of our citizens in dependence... would be more formidable and dangerous than a military power of the enemy..." Andrew Jackson, 1832

"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce... and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate."  President James Garfield

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:08 | 5565631 Leopold B. Scotch
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Russia far better equiped to tolerate this B.S. than any coddled to death American.  We are panzies vs. most of the world, compared to whom our poorest are pretty darned well off.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:20 | 5565937 caconhma
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Putin will capitulate in a matter of the next 3-4 weeks.  He has lost any control of the situation inside Russia.

He will try to negotiate his departure but will end like Libyan strongman Qaddafi.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:27 | 5565969 Freddie
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Ha ha!  Outin is still well liked by Russians and the military.  The USA and US Military has been sold out.  Americans are now lower than illegal aliens according to the Democrats and Republicans in Congress.

American boys fighting and dying for Obama when they are lower than illegals by American law.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 21:11 | 5566136 JR
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Exactly. Putin is enjoying a surge in popularity whereby a fresh poll, according to RT, shows “an overwhelming majority of Russians named President Vladimir Putin ‘Man of the Year’ when pollsters asked them to choose from among serving Russian politicians. Obama’s popularity is 40%, mostly an approval rating heavily buoyed by welfare recipients.

http://rt.com/politics/214743-putin-year-man-russia/

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:29 | 5565974 in4mayshun
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And did your perceptive abilities come by way of MSNBC or CNN?

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 21:48 | 5566295 Augustus
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Vlad, the Chessmaster screwed it this time.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-17/putin-s-secret-gamble-bet-on-ukraine-backfires-in-ruble-crisis.html

Those reserves are going fast.  His fellow kleptocrats have onl $50 billion comming due in 2015.  Help them Vlad.  Help them Vlad.  Pillage those pension funds to support the cronies.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 04:02 | 5567304 Titus
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Those reserves can't go fast enough. Dump the fucking dollars already. ALL AT ONCE!

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:17 | 5565634 kaiserhoff
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But Russians are used to hardship.

They do just fine eating tree bark and snowballs and shit.

I read it on ZH;)

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:24 | 5565686 Jlasoon
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The average American couldn't go 4hrs without "Soylent Green". I'm sure the Russians will be fine. 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 21:59 | 5566345 PT
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It'll be just like before they had "Free Trade" and "Capitalism".  What was that called again?

I hear they're very good at standing in lines.  Lots of practise.

That doesn't mean they'll be happy.

"First the Communists fooled us.  Then the Capitalists fooled us.  They can both get phukked."

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:06 | 5565618 TahoeBilly2012
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What's wrong with vodka and borscht? BTW, 50% or more Russian'ss have garden plots and grow food. The hahaha will be when us dumb fucking Yanks get in the same situation those with no skills will starve. Russia is just getting a head start in prepping, that's all.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:13 | 5565647 kaiserhoff
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I have always been in favor of "Simple booze."

Single malts, Maker's Mark, varietals.

I feel obligated to consume more to keep the world economy spinning, but that might not be the only thing spinning.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:38 | 5565754 richsob
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How are those Russian gardens doing in December?  I've seen the huge gardens outside St. Petersburg but there damn sure isn't anything growing there now.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:00 | 5565868 XitSam
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Root vegetables and a root cellar. They've been doing it for hundreds of years.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 00:28 | 5566878 COSMOS
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http://www.organicgardening.com/cook/what-store-root-cellar

Not much growing in the USA in winter time either, I dont see the point.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:12 | 5565645 Ranting Troglodyte
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Do they have NBA games in Hawaii?

 

https://whitehouse.gov1.info/blog/blog_post/agenda-hawaii.html

 

Because he deserves it.  He's black or something.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:21 | 5565681 Max Steel
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For past few days Tyler is getting worse article source . Vedomosti is like Moscow Times blatant propaganda and spinoffs to show citizens are in panc . Don't fall for it .

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:08 | 5565623 TheAnalOG
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Bitcoin biatches!!!!

 

Fuck ya!  BUY BITCOIN YOU IGNORANT CHUMPS!!!

 

 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:30 | 5565718 Miffed Microbio...
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Anal is well suited for your new avatar.

Miffed

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:37 | 5565762 TheAnalOG
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Fuck your khunt hole!

BUY BITCOIN!!!

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:42 | 5565788 Miffed Microbio...
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Please, I'd rather not. I've had my alarm cock this morning and do work on your spelling.

Miffed

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:45 | 5565798 TheAnalOG
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We never work on we spelling!!

 

BUY BITCOIN!!!

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:55 | 5565847 Citxmech
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@$318.00  ea.  It's all you.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:58 | 5565852 TheAnalOG
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Yeah, yeah who cares?  Maybe we know down to $285 again?  Big fuckie fuck deal.  You love we Anal when it's $10,000 though.

Fri, 12/19/2014 - 01:17 | 5571499 Colonel Klink
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You're just a real fucking cocksucker!  One gigantic prolapsed asshole.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:51 | 5565823 logicalman
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How to make friends and influence people!

No better strategy for convincing someone that you have something worth listening to than calling them ignorant chumps!

 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:53 | 5565837 TheAnalOG
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TheAnalOG has been one of the most successful sellers of Bitcoin and Bitcoin paraphernalia since 2012.

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Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:57 | 5565849 Citxmech
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You sure wouldn't be making any money buying BC these days.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:03 | 5565872 TheAnalOG
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If we not willing to move against the turd we are not worthy of Satoshi genius.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:32 | 5565988 logicalman
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WTF??

Worthy of Satoshi genius???

Evangelists are usually the biggest bullshitters.

Bitcoin in a world without the internet wouldl be worth how much???

 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:36 | 5566005 TheAnalOG
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We live in internet technology era phoolio.  Logic fail.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 21:53 | 5566320 medium giraffe
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oh, hey Foney. hows tricks?

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 22:25 | 5566442 TheAnalOG
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We is good we is good. Still pumpin' our shtick.  It's what we do!

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 18:56 | 5565569 BandGap
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqwvBHiLeF4

 

I guess it's a bad time to talk about the Spirit of Christmas.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 18:57 | 5565572 A Nanny Moose
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Bolshevik!

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:00 | 5565579 medium giraffe
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Merry. Fucking. Christmas.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:06 | 5565616 Tall Tom
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This was FORSEEABLE.

 

I am so pissed off at Obama and the US Government subjecting over ONE HUNDRED FIFTY MILLION PEOPLE to starvation.

 

If there is any justice then perhaps the 320 Million in the USA will be subjected to the same.

 

You retort that many here are innocent? You are right. How many over there are also innocent?

 

May the Good Lord stop the rains and allow our crops to wither in the fields of drought.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:27 | 5565691 medium giraffe
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even more people suffering = justice?

nope

even more people suffering = more shitter

 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:37 | 5565752 Tall Tom
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FROM EXPERIENCE...

 

They do not LEARN unless it happens to them. They must experience the pain and suffering that they impart upon others IN ORDER TO LEARN NOT TO DO IT TO OTHERS.

 

EXPERIENCE is the best TEACHER.

 

You can read all that you want about it. Until you have the EXPERIENCE (which I have had) then you will not truly KNOW IT.

 

Yes...Justice served.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:48 | 5565802 medium giraffe
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Very good. That way the whole world will be blind and toothless

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:27 | 5565694 Jlasoon
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Ohhh have no fear, the average American has no fucking clue what being regulated to the back of the line really means. Our time will come, we have hell to pay.

Karma will eventually rear it's ugly head for our past transgressions. 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:40 | 5565779 Miffed Microbio...
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Um, Tom. I take no responsibility for this action. I voted for none of these psychopaths. I don't see why many innocents should suffer for the evil of a few, though this certainly is most often the case. I've never been one to appreciate group punishment.

Miffed

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:47 | 5565807 kaiserhoff
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Don't know if you saw it, Miffed.  Sierra Leon is going all apey.  Fourteen day lock down, House to house search of EVERY house, cancelled all holiday gatherings.

Looks like Flounder didn't cure Ebola after all.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 18:57 | 5565581 Tall Tom
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How many times have I brought up FOOD in the past Six Months?

 

All of your downarrows did not stop it, did it?

 

Sorry for reporting inconvenient facts.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:04 | 5565598 edotabin
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I've got about a month or two stored around my waist.  May not be healthy now but should come in handy when/if tshtf.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:06 | 5565611 negative rates
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That's dubious, you just be hungry, and not healthy.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:51 | 5565832 10mm
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Or you will be look at as one spinning on a spit, apple optional.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:54 | 5565835 logicalman
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If you store it in a cupboard, you don't have to carry it around with you.

Saves a lot of wear and tear on the old 'bod'

 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:30 | 5565977 edotabin
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Upvote! Lol....  I was just funnin' around but it is ironic that unless there is a reliable food source available at all times, the extremely fit and healthy may not make it. The fat guy should be able to last longer under extreme hunger conditions.

As for the wear and tear, man are you right.  I was changing the 5 gallon water bottle at the cooler and realized that if you are 45 pounds overweight, you are carrying one of those every second of the day.

 

 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:35 | 5566003 logicalman
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Something to consider....

A fit guy can run away from a fat guy.....

 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:57 | 5566081 edotabin
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and a fat guy can shoot a skinny guy.....a skinny guy can trip and break his leg running....

 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 21:13 | 5566147 logicalman
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The same applies to a fat guy in this case, not in the former.

skinny fit guy still has the edge (assuming the aforementioned cupboard)

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 23:16 | 5566564 edotabin
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Not if the fat guy is sitting in his house and skinny guy tries to come in and take his food. Naturally, this is based on the assumption that the fat guy must be lazy and have a cupboard full of twinkies or else he wouldn't be so fat.

I make a saracastic comment about the irony of a fat guy possibly being able to go longer than the skinny guy without a steady food source (cupboard) and I get chided for it. Evidently you go to extremes as far as nutrition and exercise are concerned and are a bit miffed that the plan isn't foolproof.  Nothing in life is.  I was perfectionist in many regards and realized that it tired me more and created more harm than good.  

7 grams of organic carrots for dinner at precisely 6:43pm everyone!

 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 00:18 | 5566826 Kprime
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don't forget, twinkies have a 100 yr shelf life.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 18:58 | 5565583 dexter_morgan
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Well, they have dealt with this on MUCH larger scale before. More wishful thinking.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:00 | 5565584 kchrisc
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Stopped, searched and seized BRIC nation, or other, cargo ship with "weapons" for Russia on board when really a food shipment in 3..2..

An American, not US subject.

 

Time to hide our Goy children of gun-toting age.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:04 | 5565600 dexter_morgan
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Russia ain't the US - if grocery store shelves were empty for >10 here minutes all hell would break loose. They are kind of used to rationing and such over there. LOL

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:06 | 5565610 edotabin
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Sure, but don't tell me you weren't surprised when they wanted to buy furniture!

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:02 | 5565592 Bell's 2 hearted
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anyone have an update on what a "date" with Eugenia runs??

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:03 | 5565595 Yen Cross
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    The "Siberian Shakedown" is coming.  Germanian Popsicles/

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:04 | 5565599 Bell's 2 hearted
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is the phrase "black market" racist?

 

doing my best to stay politically correct ...

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:19 | 5565668 kaiserhoff
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No, but negro market would be.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 23:00 | 5566560 Buster Cherry
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Wouldn't be applicable anymore.

 

Haven't been any Negro markets since the 1860's. Shut down by some Republican tyrant.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:03 | 5565602 PTR
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"Viewing Russia From the Inside"

http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/viewing-russia-inside#axzz3MCPDFCNT

 

Read it yesterday.  Don't things are so cut-and-dry.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:47 | 5565812 dexter_morgan
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Yeah - they are batle tested unlike US.

All the panic seems to be here, not there.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 22:40 | 5566492 dreadnaught
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they have not become pussies like the average US Citizen take away their Surface computers, their Androids and MUD LOVIN REDNECKS on teevee, and you will have panic inside of 3 days-the Russians still are not hooked on these things and could hold up for months

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:04 | 5565605 green888
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Whenever old Ukranians die, hidden in their house somewhere you will find sugar, flour and salt; they have been through hardships many times- first Stalin, then the Nazis, then the Russians. Will be the same in Russia at a guess

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:05 | 5565607 becky quick and...
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if you don't have  least 1 year of food put away for you & your family by now, you deserve to be culled- darwin style. it's flashing OBVIOUS at this point.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:12 | 5565636 Yen Cross
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 If you don't know  how to grow that food you're toast.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:12 | 5565653 Sub MOA
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If you also don't know how to trap you're toast

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:40 | 5565776 logicalman
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Knowing where there's meat running around and being decent with a bow is not a bad thing, either

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:06 | 5565895 XitSam
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Pellet gun. Sheridan Blue Streak. Good reviews for decades old guns. Weird .20 cal so I stocked up on pellets, over 2,000. (I have bows too.)

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:41 | 5566023 Ocean22
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I got an 800 fps .22 cal pellet gun. Silent. Kills all small game, cats, coons, birds etc. pellets are cheap and plentiful. In and out before any heard a thing.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:56 | 5566073 logicalman
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A decent slingshot with 3/8in steel ball is worth considering.

Lots of practive required.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:48 | 5565814 Miffed Microbio...
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Actually, there is a limited amount of trappable meat vs a starving population. Perhaps it would be better to keep that skill to yourself. I, myself, find it difficult to hunt our local game and can't imagine what a 400 lb person in a scooter would do if faced with having to live off the land.

Miffed

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:57 | 5565851 kaiserhoff
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He could chase the buzzards off the road kill.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:04 | 5565876 logicalman
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I'm no spring chicken - 60 next month - still good for 50 miles on a mountain bike pretty much any day of the year - hike a lot - shoot a bow as often as possible - make my own bows, arrows, strings.

I do like the fact that when I turn on the tap, clean water comes out and I can go to the store for the food I need. If TSHTF I won't exactly be thrilled about the consequences for me and mine, but we'll do better than most, I think, but the world HAS to change.

As to the four-hundred-pounder - feed a lot of local wildlife. I don't think you'd call that 'living' off the land.

 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:21 | 5565679 MsCreant
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Save seeds too.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:38 | 5565756 kaiserhoff
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Save Russian Jews....

  Win valuable prizes;)

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:10 | 5565909 XitSam
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The book Seed to Seed is good to learn that. If you haven't done it, and most vegetable gardeners haven't, learn it soon.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 21:26 | 5566206 MsCreant
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On my bookshelf, have not read it cover to cover, there is a lot to it, but I certainly save some seeds every year. I ate an excellent orange organic watermellon this summer. Seeds saved. Those are good for at least 4-5 years and some say they can be good at the 10 year mark. I even bury parts of veggies I like in the yard. Great volunteers can happen that way! I get kinda jiggy wid it. 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 00:39 | 5566923 COSMOS
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http://arvindguptatoys.com/arvindgupta/seedtoseed.pdf

Not the same book but a good starter for kids and newbies

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 20:25 | 5570771 XitSam
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Thanks.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 23:01 | 5566556 Kprime
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haven't u guys ever heard of a grocery store??  lol

nobody grows food anymore, it's sooo 1940's.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:27 | 5565698 logicalman
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Was just thinking pretty much along the same lines.

Looks like the wheels are coming off!

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:08 | 5565620 Sub MOA
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Are all russians drunks?  or is this stereo-type thing getting laid on a bit thick??   I call for a chart damnit I want proof...  not questioning the food aspect everyones gotta eat but this booze thing well I'm sceptical

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:31 | 5565722 logicalman
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Can't beat a good stereotype!

Any Russians in here, please share the Russian stereotype of Americans.

 

 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:00 | 5565857 HowdyDoody
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Not all Russians are not all drunk not all of the time. Hic!

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:11 | 5565632 Shirley Swanepoel
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A few extra shots should numb the pain...

 

 

 

Russian Standard Vodka
Origin: Russia; $22

 

Kauffman Luxury Vintage Vodka
Origin: Russia; $225

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:12 | 5565642 disabledvet
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"Kill the invaders."

 

This is a slam dunk for Putin. "Start launching in 3...2....1.....

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:11 | 5565643 Bankster Kibble
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Got potatoes, got vodka.  Russian equivalent of bathtub gin?

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:22 | 5565682 joego1
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Russians are a tough lot and can live on Vodka, and potatoes. The rich guys will be bitching alot to Putin.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:24 | 5565688 dlfield
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Das vadanya.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:27 | 5565695 bid the soldier...
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Ahhh. Vedomosti

"is a Russian language business daily. It is a joint venture between Dow Jones, the Financial Times and Sanoma, the publishers of The Moscow Times."

They wouldn't be interested in creating any negative spin about life in Russia today.  Not the WSJ or FT.

BTW not Tass, RIANovisti, or RT have anything about this story on their web sites at the moment.  

And none of them have been shy about printing bad news for Russia in the past.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:22 | 5565951 TheShadowKnows
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You beat me to the draw. As of the end of September "Vedomosti" was 100% foreign owned. Do you know if that has changed since the new law was passed allowing foreigners to only own 20%?

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 21:51 | 5566318 bid the soldier...
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And two of the owners are subsidiaries of the Ministry of Propaganda. 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:30 | 5565716 jez
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"And it is about to get worse: very soon Russians may have to live without imported alcohol"

This means war.

Or possibly blindness, from drinking bathtub hooch.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:35 | 5565741 dexter_morgan
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no booze - thems fightin words comrade!

That's the ticket - as another article suggested they are going to sell off all their newly aquired gold for........BOOZE

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:37 | 5565742 BudFox2012
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I remember reading in a military mag years ago about how many Russian conscripts in the 80's had died distilling booze from antifreeze. Yummy

In the same article it described an incident in either Czechoslovakia or Yugoslavia (that tells you how old this was)where a Russian tank crew sold their T-72 to locals for a case of booze and a jar of pickles. By the time the army tracked them down the tank had been stripped to an empty shell. I wonder how Siberia was for that tank crew

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 23:02 | 5566562 cornflakesdisease
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I remember reading that.  They were tipped off by a sudden uptick in high quality steel at the scrapyard LOL.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2507&dat=19850805&id=oKNAAAAAIBAJ&...

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:33 | 5565726 BudFox2012
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What could possibly go wrong with trying to collapse the economy and starve out the population of a country with a large nuclear arsenal + multiple delivery systems?

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:47 | 5565810 Fun Facts
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Inside Russian nuclear sub as it fires missile that can level a city (VIDEO)

Bulava is the newest generation of Russian submarine-launched strategic nuclear missiles paired with new Borey-class submarines as their designated carriers. The K-535 Yury Dolgoruky can carry up to 16 of them in its launchers.

http://rt.com/news/200835-russia-borei-bulava-launch/

RSM-56 Bulava
Designed by Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSM-56_Bulava

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:32 | 5565990 Ocean22
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There are only a few options open here. Either:

Someone intentionally wants the USA to get nuked

Someone knows the game is rigged.

Or get ready for nuclear war.

This is insane to playing a game of chicken with Russia. I mean REALLY???
What did Japan do after the USA was going to block oil. ??

Russia is being goaded into attacking then the sheeple will think he's the new hitler and we then go full scale war.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 22:57 | 5566549 cornflakesdisease
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They did it before in the 80's.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:33 | 5565731 GIABO
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WMR has learned that Brennan's agents inside Saudi Aramco convinced the firm's management and the Saudi Oil Ministry to begin fracking operations to stimulate production in Saudi Arabia's oldest oil fields. By pumping salt water into older wells, some at a depth of 3 to 6 thousand feet, an inordinate amount of pressure was built up. The CIA's oil industry implants knew what would occur when the fracking operations began. Due to the dangerously high water pressure, the Saudis were forced continuously pump oil until the pressure became equalized. That process is continuing. If the Saudis ceased pumping oil, they would permanently lose the wells to salt water contamination. In the current "pump it or lose it" situation, the Saudis are forced to pump at a rate that may take up to 5 years before they can slow down production rates.

The net result of the CIA-inspired fracking operations, which the Saudis were warned not to pursue by petroleum engineers working for some foreign-based firms like Schlumberger, is that there will be an oil supply glut for the next 5 years. The glut will be followed by a reduction in Saudi oil production unless new oil fields are brought on line. There is now a major push by U.S. and Canadian oil companies to bring the Keystone XL pipeline from Canada to the United States to offset the expected sharp rise in oil prices in five years.

The CIA operation to frack Middle Eastern oil fields was not only limited to Saudi Arabia. WMR has learned from oil industry sources that similar fracking caused over production problems in Kuwait and Iraq.


CIA engineered Saudi overproduction by fracking old wells.

The result of the sudden decline in oil prices has resulted in heavy damage to the economies of the CIA-targeted countries of Russia, Iran, and Venezuela. Brennan and his economic warfare operatives banked on the Saudi over-production to harm the economies of all three countries and the CIA has not been disappointed. The CIA figures that the governments of Vladimir Putin in Russia, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in Iran, and Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela will have long since collapsed and been replaced by pro-Western regimes within 5 years. Already, from his base in Switzerland, exiled Russian tax evader billionaire Mikhail Khodorkovsky has called for Putin's overthrow and even his assassination. Meanwhile, the U.S. Congress and the Obama administration have taken cues from the CIA to impose devastating economic sanctions on both Russia and Venezuela. Similar congressional legislation to increase sanctions on Iran is pending.

Russia has been harmed the most by the CIA's Saudi oil production scheme. The Russian ruble fell 56 percent in value against the U.S. dollar while Russian interest rates climbed to 17 percent. The price of shares of Russia's largest lending bank, Sberbank, fell 18 percent. Although the Russian economic collapse has resulted in financial ripples around the world, with Austrian and French banks losing their stock values and the value of the Polish zloty and Hungarian forint falling against the dollar, the Obama administration says that there will be no easing on economic sanctions imposed on Russia over Ukraine. Obama has put the investments of American holders of Russian bonds in dire jeopardy.

The Pacific Investment Management Company's (PEBIX) Emerging Markets Bond Fund, which holds over $800 million in Russian bonds, has lost almost 8 percent in value in the past few weeks.

Russian Central Bank vice chairman Sergei Shvetsov said, "What is happening is a nightmare that we could not even have imagined a year ago."

Meanwhile, basic staples in Venezuela, including cooking oil, rice, and corn flour, are becoming hard to obtain. The U.S. dollar has jumped 1700 percent in value against the Venezuelan bolivar on the black market. The CIA is using the financial collapse to push for an undemocratic overthrow of the Venezuelan government.

Iran, which has been under punitive Western economic sanctions for a number of years over its nuclear power program, is probably best able to weather the storm. Iran has built up a rather impressive domestic food production, telecommunications, and oil industry infrastructure to survive the sanctions. However, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani appears very aware of the Saudi role in the conspiracy to drive down oil prices. Rouhani recently said, "The main reason for [the oil price plunge] is [a] political conspiracy by certain countries against the interest of the region and the Islamic world and it is only in the interest of some other countries . . . Iran and people of the region will not forget such conspiracies, or in other words, treachery against the interests of the Muslim world.”

Brennan's and the CIA's industrial sabotage of the Saudi and other Middle East oil industries will continue to have far-reaching effects on the world economy. Oil industry insiders fear that the CIA has unleashed something that may deal a devastating blow to the global economy.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:37 | 5565758 Sub MOA
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Theres that fucking fracking shit at play again...for fucks sake every where I look this ponzi fracking nightmare turns up is there anything this shit isn't wound into???

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:46 | 5565800 dexter_morgan
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Hey, was satanface Cuomo consulted about that fracking shit?

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:06 | 5565890 divingengineer
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I'm not disagreeing with you, but do you have a legitimate source? On any of that?

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:35 | 5565740 Berspankme
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I don't know what Putin will do. He is in a rough spot. Can never accept a western dominated Ukraine because it's over for Russia when that happens. And China cannot accept a western dominated Russia on their border or they will be next. Time to put the dicks on the table and get out the tape measure. Obama will first have to remove from Reggie's ass

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:56 | 5565842 Ocean22
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I agree this is a tough spot. War seems his only out. The west is not backing off. They push and push and push. Either the USA has a death wish or they are really really stupid ( or they know something we don't. )

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 22:54 | 5566536 cornflakesdisease
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Don't recall that Dollar, Inc got to this point by being really really stupid.  The seem like the smartest guys in the room when it comes to gaining power and market share and being ruthless (as evil as they are - just saying).

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:01 | 5565871 divingengineer
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It may be over for Russia anyway.  Demographics, reliance on energy and raw materials exports, corruption, beligerance, they need to learn to play nice.  

The old dog still has some teeth, I know it was very fashionable here for most of the year to talk about what a stud Putin was and how he was going to give us a good whompin' but the US is still a very dangerous beast.  

We're making him squirm now, punishing him for being uppity.  He has no option but to respond with bravado, lots of big talk, that's what russians do I guess.  

I find it worrisome, out of panic or desperation something crazy could happen. 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:31 | 5565983 bid the soldier...
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consider this view.

At the end of 2013 when Nuland's plan for Maidan, Kiev and Ukraine were known to Putin, he decided to let the coup succeed and to take Crimea into Russia.

The fighting in Donbas, until this second truce, is positioning for the West's invasion of Crimea, which seems more unlikely every month.

If this truce holds there will be a weapon-free buffer zone between Donbas and Ukraine, upheld by both Ukraine and Russia, I'd think.

If Yushchenko had cleared the Maidan in January, Russia would not have the ability to use Crimea as he has against the unrelenting onslaught of NATO and the US. Yes, there would be no NATO troops on Ukrainian soil, but there would be nazis in the Rada, the country would be swarming with CIA, and Yushchenko waould be anging on by a thread.

As for the plunging price of oil, the short selling of the ruble and Russia's sanction-weakened economy, remember this;

the same MSM that is reporting how grim it is in Russia is also reporting how great it is here.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:37 | 5565748 YHC-FTSE
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First, Russians will never run out of vodka as long as someone has a still in his shed. I've even heard of people making vodka out of poo during the fall of the Soviet Union. Second, we're still talking about large scale distributors (import oriented) and by all accounts in the large cities (Moscow and St.Petersberg) there is no impact on retail groceries, other than the recent price climb in imported foods. 30-40% rise within such a short space of time is steep, but then again I've seen the same thing here in the UK on certain products in the supermarkets spread over 3yrs.

The biggest mistake you can ever make with the Russians (or anyone else for that matter), is attempting to starve him and his children with sanctions and by cutting them off from FX markets. It will not be as bad as the sanctions imposed on Iraq during the 90's, but this inconvenience will not go unanswered. Will it be a shocker tomorrow, or will it be another quiet, measured response? I have no idea, but I do know my support for the Russian people is justified by seeing that it was Goldman Sachs leading the banks to halt liquidity to Russian clients and other local entities. If GS is against Putin, then I'm all for him.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:33 | 5565942 a common man
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I am paying double for eggs that paid a month ago, and yet the dollar has been rising. Salmon is 30% higher than a year ago. Beef cuts are out of my price range.Glad I am not Jewish and can still afford pork.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:47 | 5566044 TalkToLind
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+2 for 2% inflation...yeah, right.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 21:19 | 5566174 Augustus
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Eggs are $1.99 / doz.

Chicken remains cheap.

Pork loin is $3.49 / lb.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:38 | 5565753 logicalman
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This is coming to the world in general.

The kleptocrats want it ALL. Nothing to do with the fictions known as countries, which are just a way of dividing the herd into manageable groups that can be played off against each other by the psychopathic, greedy fucks who run the world.

Global Serfdom, here we come.

The real war is between the psychopaths and the rest.

I just hope enough of the 'rest' wake up before it's too late.

 

 

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:05 | 5565882 TeethVillage88s
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+ 1 for fictions known as countries.

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- Corporatism, Free Trade, & Globalism eliminated borders
- Open Borders & mass immigration eliminated Countries
- Off Shoring, Outsourcing, & Slave Labor ended Countries
- USA doesn't recognize any Sovereign Countries, but it has alliances with defacto leaders of the regions
- Money in Politics, Gift Giving in Government ended the "American Idea"

- There are no Patriots in Corporations or in Privateering
- Damn Sure there isn't any Patriots in Banking
- Debt Slaves will never be Whistleblowers, but make great Fascists

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 21:03 | 5566105 Leraconteur
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Countries existed long before corporations. Sure you could travel without a passport pre-1850, but having a nation (NOT .gov) that is allayed around a common language, culture, geography, location, literature, art and food is the most natural thing in the world.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 22:50 | 5566523 cornflakesdisease
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Sorry.  Too late.  When Russia and Iran capitulate, we will for the first time live in a world where there are no independant central banks.  Argentinia and Chavezland are toast all ready.  China is part and parcel with the FED.  Brave new world.

Does all hope rest on North Korea?

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 19:45 | 5565801 talisman
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What? Russians worry???
---NOT !!--
so long as potatoes grow in Russia.
and make great vodka.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:24 | 5565958 TweedleDeeDooDah
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Russians do nt make vodka from potatoes... a certain religious people that are spread around Russia and europe do use potatoes, but Russians actually despise this method and call it bad names.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:06 | 5565887 Tachyon5321
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How long until Obama starts killing russian children because they cannot buy food.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:14 | 5565915 God is The Son
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Putin might be forced to DECLARE WAR on the US for destroying it's currency. Who knows what might his reaction? NUCLEAR strike on Wall Street and the US dollar is finished. Nostradamus predicted NUCLEAR ATTACK on New York in Festive Season, which is like with in the next 2 weeks. United States has got overtly arrgoant, when bullie keeps pushing another who holds a GUN, the other will evenually shot the bullie. Russia biggest weapon are nukes, it's only weapon RUSSIA has to destroy the US dollar. The US might be thinking he won't dare use nukes in retalation to sanctions. US is pushing blindly.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:23 | 5565950 TweedleDeeDooDah
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Yah... that will certainly get people shipping food and drink to Russia, and real fast!

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 00:48 | 5566968 COSMOS
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Well it certainly will get them to stop shipping food to the USA LOL

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:40 | 5566026 GIABO
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wayne madsen is my source former nsa and investigative journalist

waynemadsenreport.com

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:57 | 5566077 JR
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Then you might be interested in this front page article on Voltaire Network:

Israel’s Secret Plan for a "Second Israel" in Ukraine

by Wayne Madsen

The role of Jewish figures and of the State of Israel in the Ukrainian crisis has not gone unnoticed considering that this community represents less than 1 percent of the population. However, a secret report in the hands of the Netanyahu administration confirms that Ashkenazi Jews do not originate from the Levant, but are the descendants of the Khazars. This little-known population founded a Jewish empire in the tenth century on the banks of the Black Sea. Therefore, some Zionists see in Ukraine a possible second Israel.

Voltaire Network | Washington D. C. (États-Unis) | 8 December 2014

http://www.voltairenet.org/article186164.html

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 21:32 | 5566227 YHC-FTSE
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It's really odd you mentioned this "second Israel in Ukraine". I heard about this from people who do business in the neighboring country of Slovakia who were commenting on the number of Israelis popping in and out of Ukraine as far back as ten years ago.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 22:24 | 5566435 Ginsengbull
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Some parts of a proto-slavic tribe, the Alans, converted to Judaism 1200 years ago.

 

Maybe this was due to the expansionism of Islam at the time.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 20:50 | 5566055 JR
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…there is virtually no middle class in the country to speak of…  Tyler Durden

The World Bank reports that Russia's middle class represented 60 percent of the total population in 2010.

“The Bank’s research indicates that poverty-reduction and middle-class growth in Russia were explained by high growth in average incomes and consumption during the period of 2000-2010. The poverty rate fell down from 35 percent in 2001 to 10 percent in 2010. At the same time, the size of the middle class grew from 30 percent to 60 percent of the total population.”

With the ruble currency problem and the aggressive joy that western bankers (using NATO, IMF, ECB, BIS, Kiev and the FED power over the world’s reserve currency), we should all be careful to believe the highly controlled western financial media and its accompanying mainstream media lapdogs regarding the extent of Russian suffering.

http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2014/03/26/russian-economic-report-31

Sharon Tennison in “Who is Vladimir Putin? Why Does the US Government Hate Him?” wrote in May of 2014:

From 2001 up to today, I’ve watched the negative U.S. media mounting against Putin …. even accusations of assassinations, poisonings, and comparing him to Hitler.

No one yet has come up with any concrete evidence for these allegations. During this time, I’ve traveled throughout Russia several times every year, and have watched the country slowly change under Putin’s watch. Taxes were lowered, inflation lessened, and laws slowly put in place. Schools and hospitals began improving. Small businesses were growing, agriculture was showing improvement, and stores were becoming stocked with food.

Alcohol challenges were less obvious, smoking was banned from buildings, and life expectancy began increasing. Highways were being laid across the country, new rails and modern trains appeared even in far out places, and the banking industry was becoming dependable. Russia was beginning to look like a decent country –– certainly not where Russians hoped it to be long term, but improving incrementally for the first time in their memories.

My 2013/14 Trips to Russia: In addition to St.Petersburg and Moscow, in September I traveled out to the Ural Mountains, spent time in Ekaterinburg, Chelyabinsk and Perm. We traveled between cities via autos and rail––the fields and forests look healthy, small towns sport new paint and construction. Today’s Russians look like Americans (we get the same clothing from China). Old concrete Khrushchev block houses are giving way to new multi-story private residential complexes which are lovely. High-rise business centers, fine hotels and great restaurants are now common place––and ordinary Russians frequent these places. Two and three story private homes rim these Russian cities far from Moscow.

We visited new museums, municipal buildings and huge super markets. Streets are in good repair, highways are new and well marked now, service stations looks like those dotting American highways. In January I went to Novosibirsk out in Siberia where similar new architecture was noted. Streets were kept navigable with constant snowplowing, modern lighting kept the city bright all night, lots of new traffic lights (with seconds counting down to light change) have appeared. It is astounding to me how much progress Russia has made in the past 14 years since an unknown man with no experience walked into Russia’s presidency and took over a country that was flat on its belly.

So why do our leaders and media demean and demonize Putin and Russia???

http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-is-vladimir-putin-why-does-the-us-government-hate-him/5381205

Sharon Tennison is President and Founder of the Center for Citizen Initiatives, sharon@ccisf.org,  Author of  The Power of Impossible Ideas www.ccisf.org (under revision)

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