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ObamaCar: Automobile Insurance Subsidized Hope Act

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The time has come to stop the epidemic of unsafe cars on the road, duct-taped and strapped together, because the drivers cannot afford collision coverage.

It is time, America, for the next logical change.

ObamaCar: Automobile Insurance Subsidized Hope Act

 

I want to thank the American people for their patience and resolve during this trying time for our nation.  But we did not come here just to clean up crises.  We came here to build a future.  (Applause.)  So tonight, I return to speak to all of you about an issue that is central to that future -- and that is the issue of affordable automobile collision insurance.

Our collective failure to meet this challenge -- year after year, decade after decade -- has led us to the breaking point.  Everyone understands the extraordinary hardships that are placed on the uninsured, who live every day just one accident away from bankruptcy.  These are not primarily people on welfare.  These are middle-class Americans.  Some can't get insurance on a car they need to get to their job.  Others are self-employed, and can't afford it for their work vehicle.  Many other Americans who are willing and able to pay are still denied affordable insurance due to previous accidents or prior convictions that insurance companies decide are too risky or too expensive to cover.

We are the only democracy -- the only advanced democracy on Earth -- the only wealthy nation -- that allows such hardship for millions of its people.  There are now millions of American citizens who cannot get coverage.  In just a two-year period, one in every three Americans goes without car insurance coverage at some point.  And every day, 14,000 Americans lose their coverage.  In other words, it can happen to anyone.

But the problem that plagues the automobile collision repair and insurance system is not just a problem for the uninsured.  Those who do have insurance have never had less security and stability than they do today.   More and more Americans worry that if you drive, rear-end  another driver, or run a red light, you could lose your affordable insurance too.  More and more Americans pay their premiums, only to discover that their insurance company has dropped their coverage when they get a DUI, or were late on a payment.  It happens every day.

One man from Illinois lost his coverage in the middle of a family car trip to Florida because his insurer found that he hadn't reported a couple little accidents that he had forgotten about.  They delayed his vacation, and he died because of it.  Another woman from Texas was about to get a job delivering pizzas when her insurance company canceled her policy because she forgot to declare just one case where she was found guilty of driving under the influence.  By the time she had her insurance reinstated, her premium had more than doubled in size.  That is heart-breaking, it is wrong, and no one should be treated that way in the United States of America.  (Applause.)

Then there's the problem of rising cost.  We spend one and a half times more per person on automobile collision repair than any other country, but we aren't any better drivers.  This is one of the reasons that insurance premiums have gone up three times faster than wages.  It's why so many insurers are forcing their customers to pay more for insurance, or are dropping their coverage entirely.  It's why so many aspiring entrepreneurs cannot afford to open a business in the first place, and why American businesses that compete internationally -- like our automakers -- are at a huge disadvantage.  And it's why those of us with automobile collision insurance are also paying a hidden and growing tax for those without it -- about $1,000 per year that pays for somebody else's fender benders and run ins with power poles.

Finally, our automobile collision repair system is placing an unsustainable burden on taxpayers.  When body shop costs grow at the rate they have, it puts greater pressure on insurance company profitability.  If we do nothing to slow these skyrocketing costs, we will eventually be spending more on bailouts of insurance companies like AIG than every other government bailout combined.  Put simply, our automobile collision insurance problem is our deficit problem.  Nothing else even comes close.  Nothing else.  (Applause.)

Now, these are the facts.  Nobody disputes them.  We know we must reform this system.  The question is how.

There are those on the left who believe that the only way to fix the system is through a single-payer system like Canada's -- (applause) -- where we would severely restrict the private insurance market and have the government provide coverage for everybody.  On the right, there are those who argue that we should leave individuals to buy auto insurance on their own.

I've said -- I have to say that there are arguments to be made for both these approaches.  But either one would represent a radical shift that would disrupt the auto insurance most people currently have.  Since driving represents one-sixth of our economy, I believe it makes more sense to build on what works and fix what doesn't, rather than try to build an entirely new system from scratch.  (Applause.)  And that is precisely what those of you in Congress have tried to do over the past several months.

During that time, we've seen Washington at its best and at its worst.

We've seen many in this chamber work tirelessly for the better part of this year to offer thoughtful ideas about how to achieve reform.  Of the five committees asked to develop bills, four have completed their work, and the Senate Finance Committee announced today that it will move forward next week.  That has never happened before.  Our overall efforts have been supported by an unprecedented coalition of body shops, wrecker drivers, and car rental agencies; law enforcement, seniors' groups, and even automobile manufacturers -- many of whom opposed reform in the past.  And there is agreement in this chamber on about 80 percent of what needs to be done, putting us closer to the goal of reform than we have ever been.

But what we've also seen in these last months is the same partisan spectacle that only hardens the disdain many Americans have towards their own government.  Instead of honest debate, we've seen scare tactics.  Some have dug into unyielding ideological camps that offer no hope of compromise.  Too many have used this as an opportunity to score short-term political points, even if it robs the country of our opportunity to solve a long-term challenge.  And out of this blizzard of charges and counter-charges, confusion has reigned.

Well, the time for bickering is over.  The time for games has passed.  (Applause.)

Now is the season for action.  Now is when we must bring the best ideas of both parties together, and show the American people that we can still do what we were sent here to do.  Now is the time to deliver on automobile collision insurance.  Now is the time to deliver on driving.  

The plan I'm announcing tonight would meet three basic goals.  It will provide more security and stability to those who have auto insurance.  It will provide insurance for those who don't.  And it will slow the growth of collision repair costs for our families, our businesses, and our government.  (Applause.)

It's a plan that asks everyone to take responsibility for meeting this challenge -- not just government, not just insurance companies, but everybody including employers and individuals.  And it's a plan that incorporates ideas from senators and congressmen, from Democrats and Republicans -- and yes, from some of my opponents in both the primary and general election.  

Here are the details that every American needs to know about this plan.  First, if you are among the hundreds of millions of Americans who already have collision insurance, nothing in this plan will require you to change the coverage or the mechanic you have.  (Applause.)

Let me repeat this:  Nothing in our plan requires you to change what you have.

What this plan will do is make the insurance you have work better for you.  Under this plan, it will be against the law for insurance companies to deny you coverage because of a preexisting convictions.  (Applause.)

As soon as I sign this bill, it will be against the law for insurance companies to drop your coverage when you get a DUI or water it down when you need it the most.  (Applause.)  They will no longer be able to place some arbitrary cap on the amount of coverage you can receive in a given year or in a lifetime.  (Applause.)  We will place a limit on how much you can be charged for out-of-pocket expenses, because in the United States of America, no one should go broke because they rear-end someone.  (Applause.)

And insurance companies will be required to cover, with no extra charge, routine maintenance and preventive care, like oil changes and tune-ups -- (applause) -- because there's no reason we shouldn't be catching problems like a bad timing belt and leaky gaskets before they get worse.  That makes sense, it saves money, and it saves lives.  (Applause.)

Now, that's what Americans who have automobile collision insurance can expect from this plan -- more security and more stability.

Now, if you're one of the tens of millions of Americans who don't currently have collision insurance, the second part of this plan will finally offer you quality, affordable choices.  (Applause.)

If you lose your job or you change your job, you'll be able to get coverage.  If you strike out on your own and start a small business, you'll be able to get coverage.  We'll do this by creating a new insurance exchange -- a marketplace where individuals and small businesses will be able to shop for automobile collision insurance at competitive prices.  Insurance companies will have an incentive to participate in this exchange because it lets them compete for millions of new customers.  As one big group, these customers will have greater leverage to bargain with the insurance companies for better prices and quality coverage.  This is how large companies and government employees get affordable insurance.  It's how everyone in this Congress gets affordable insurance.  And it's time to give every American the same opportunity that we give ourselves.  (Applause.)

Now, for those individuals and small businesses who still can't afford the lower-priced insurance available in the exchange, we'll provide tax credits, the size of which will be based on your need.  And all insurance companies that want access to this new marketplace will have to abide by the consumer protections I already mentioned.  This exchange will take effect in four years, which will give us time to do it right.  In the meantime, for those Americans who can't get insurance today because they have preexisting convictions for driving violations, we will immediately offer low-cost coverage that will protect you against financial ruin if you become involved in an auto accident.  (Applause.)

This was a good idea when Republicans proposed it in the campaign, it's a good idea now, and we should all embrace it.  (Applause.)

Now, even if we provide these affordable options, there may be those -- especially those with old nearly worthless vehicles and good drivers traveling low mileage -- who still want to take the risk and go without collision coverage.  There may still be companies that refuse to do right by their workers by giving them coverage.  The problem is, such irresponsible behavior costs all the rest of us money.  If there are affordable options and people still don't sign up for automobile collision insurance, it means we all run the risk by driving on the same roads with unrepaired, and unsafe vehicles.  If some delivery businesses don't provide drivers automobile collision insurance, it forces the rest of us to pick up the tab when their drivers get in an accident, and gives those businesses an unfair advantage over their competitors.  And unless everybody does their part, many of the insurance reforms we seek -- especially requiring insurance companies to cover preexisting convictions -- just can't be achieved.

And that's why under my plan, individuals will be required to carry basic automobile collision repair insurance -- just as Obamacare requires you to carry health insurance.  (Applause.)

And while there remain some significant details to be ironed out, I believe -- (laughter) -- I believe a broad consensus exists for the aspects of the plan I just outlined:  consumer protections for those with insurance, an exchange that allows individuals and small businesses to purchase affordable coverage, and a requirement that people who can afford insurance get insurance.

And I have no doubt that these reforms would greatly benefit Americans from all walks of life, as well as the economy as a whole.  Still, given all the misinformation that's been spread over the past few months, I realize -- (applause) -- I realize that many Americans have grown nervous about reform.  So tonight I want to address some of the key controversies that are still out there.

Some of people's concerns have grown out of bogus claims spread by those whose only agenda is to kill reform at any cost.  The best example is the claim made not just by radio and cable talk show hosts, but by prominent politicians, that we plan to set up panels of bureaucrats with the power to stop senior citizens from driving.  Now, such a charge would be laughable if it weren't so cynical and irresponsible.  It is a lie, plain and simple.  (Applause.)

There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants.  This, too, is false.  The reforms -- the reforms I'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally.

AUDIENCE MEMBER:  You lie!  (Boos.)

It's not true.  And one more misunderstanding I want to clear up -- under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund 22" rims, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.  (Applause.) 

Now, my car care proposal has also been attacked by some who oppose reform as a "government takeover" of the entire automobile collision repair system.  As proof, critics point to a provision in our plan that allows the uninsured and small businesses to choose a publicly sponsored insurance option, administered by the government just like Medicaid or Medicare.  (Applause.)

So let me set the record straight here.  My guiding principle is, and always has been, that consumers do better when there is choice and competition.  That's how the market works.  (Applause.)  Unfortunately, in 34 states, 75 percent of the insurance market is controlled by five or fewer companies.  In Alabama, almost 90 percent is controlled by just one company.  And without competition, the price of insurance goes up and quality goes down.  And it makes it easier for insurance companies to treat their customers badly -- by cherry-picking the safest drivers and trying to drop the drunks and the dopers, by overcharging individuals who have no leverage, and by jacking up rates.

Insurance executives don't do this because they're bad people; they do it because it's profitable.  As one former insurance executive testified before Congress, insurance companies are not only encouraged to find reasons to drop drunk and stoned drivers, or drivers that text while driving then rear-end people...repeatedly, they are rewarded for it.  All of this is in service of meeting what this former executive called "Wall Street's relentless profit expectations."

Now, I have no interest in putting insurance companies out of business.  They provide a legitimate service, and employ a lot of our friends and neighbors.  I just want to hold them accountable.  (Applause.)  And the insurance reforms that I've already mentioned would do just that.  But an additional step we can take to keep insurance companies honest is by making a not-for-profit public option available in the insurance exchange.  (Applause.)

Now, let me be clear.  Let me be clear.  It would only be an option for those who don't have insurance.  No one would be forced to choose it, and it would not impact those of you who already have insurance.  In fact, based on Congressional Budget Office estimates, we believe that less than 5 percent of Americans would sign up.

Despite all this, the insurance companies and their allies don't like this idea.  They argue that these private companies can't fairly compete with the government.  And they'd be right if taxpayers were subsidizing this public insurance option.  But they won't be.  I've insisted that like any private insurance company, the public insurance option would have to be self-sufficient and rely on the revenue it collects, just like the United States Post Office.  But by avoiding some of the overhead that gets eaten up at private companies by profits and excessive administrative costs and executive salaries, it could provide a good deal for consumers, and would also keep pressure on private insurers to keep their policies affordable and treat their customers better, the same way public colleges and universities provide additional choice and competition to students without in any way inhibiting a vibrant system of private colleges and universities.  (Applause.)

Now, it is -- it's worth noting that a strong majority of Americans still favor a public insurance option of the sort I've proposed tonight.  But its impact shouldn't be exaggerated -- by the left or the right or the media.  It is only one part of my plan, and shouldn't be used as a handy excuse for the usual Washington ideological battles.  To my progressive friends, I would remind you that for decades, the driving idea behind reform has been to end insurance company abuses and make coverage available for those without it.  (Applause.)  The public option -- the public option is only a means to that end -- and we should remain open to other ideas that accomplish our ultimate goal.  And to my Republican friends, I say that rather than making wild claims about a government takeover of car care, we should work together to address any legitimate concerns you may have.  (Applause.)

Finally, let me discuss an issue that is a great concern to me, to members of this chamber, and to the public -- and that's how we pay for this plan.

And here's what you need to know.  First, I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits -- either now or in the future.  (Applause.)

I will not sign it if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future, period.  And to prove that I'm serious, there will be a provision in this plan that requires us to come forward with more spending cuts if the savings we promised don't materialize.  (Applause.)

Now, part of the reason I faced a trillion-dollar deficit when I walked in the door of the White House is because too many initiatives over the last decade were not paid for -- from the Iraq war to tax breaks for the wealthy.  (Applause.)  I will not make that same mistake with car care. 

Second, we've estimated that most of this plan can be paid for by finding savings within the existing automobile collision repair system, a system that is currently full of waste and abuse.  Right now, too much of the hard-earned savings and tax dollars we spend on car care don't make us any better drivers.  That's not my judgment -- it's the judgment of transportation professionals across this country.  And this is also true when it comes to law enforcement.

Now, finally, many in this chamber -- particularly on the Republican side of the aisle -- have long insisted that reforming our civil litigation and chiropractor laws can help bring down the cost of automobile collisions.  (Applause.)  Now -- there you go.  There you go.  Now, I don't believe civil litigation and chiropractor laws reform is a silver bullet, but I've talked to enough doctors to know that chiropractic medicine may be contributing to unnecessary costs.  (Applause.)

I know that the Bush administration considered authorizing demonstration projects in individual states to test these ideas.  I think it's a good idea, and I'm directing my Secretary of Transportation to move forward on this initiative today.  (Applause.)

Now, add it all up, and the plan I'm proposing will cost around $900 billion over 10 years -- less than we have spent on the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, and less than the tax cuts for the wealthiest few Americans that Congress passed at the beginning of the previous administration.  (Applause.)  Now, most of these costs will be paid for with money already being spent -- but spent badly -- in the existing car care system.  The plan will not add to our deficit.  The middle class will realize greater security, not higher taxes.  And if we are able to slow the growth of car care costs by just one-tenth of 1 percent each year -- one-tenth of 1 percent -- it will actually reduce the deficit by $4 trillion over the long term.

Now, this is the plan I'm proposing.  It's a plan that incorporates ideas from many of the people in this room tonight -- Democrats and Republicans.  And I will continue to seek common ground in the weeks ahead.  If you come to me with a serious set of proposals, I will be there to listen.  My door is always open.

But know this:  I will not waste time with those who have made the calculation that it's better politics to kill this plan than to improve it.  (Applause.)  I won't stand by while the special interests use the same old tactics to keep things exactly the way they are.  If you misrepresent what's in this plan, we will call you out.  (Applause.)  And I will not -- and I will not accept the status quo as a solution.  Not this time.  Not now.

Everyone in this room knows what will happen if we do nothing.  Our deficit will grow.  More families will go bankrupt.  More businesses will close.  More Americans will lose their coverage when they are using drugs or alcohol and need it the most.  And more will die as a result.  We know these things to be true.

That is why we cannot fail.  Because there are too many Americans counting on us to succeed -- the ones who suffer silently, and the ones who shared their stories with us at town halls, in e-mails, and in letters.

I received one of those letters a few days ago.  It was from our beloved friend and colleague, Ted Kennedy.  He had written it back in May, shortly after he was told that his illness was terminal.  He asked that it be delivered upon his death.

In it, he spoke about what a happy time his last months were, thanks to the love and support of family and friends, his wife, Vicki, his amazing children, who are all here tonight, and those who are not here because they died in automobile accidents he caused while driving under the influence.  And he expressed confidence that this would be the year that car care reform -- "that great unfinished business of our society," he called it -- would finally pass.  He repeated the truth that car care is decisive for our future prosperity, but he also reminded me that "it concerns more than material things."  "What we face," he wrote, "is above all a moral issue; at stake are not just the details of policy, but fundamental principles of social justice and the character of our country."

I've thought about that phrase quite a bit in recent days -- the character of our country.  One of the unique and wonderful things about America has always been our self-reliance, our rugged individualism, our fierce defense of freedom and our healthy skepticism of government.  And figuring out the appropriate size and role of government has always been a source of rigorous and, yes, sometimes angry debate.  That's our history.  

For some of Ted Kennedy's critics, his liberalism with booze, women, and cars represented an affront to American liberty.  In their minds, his passion for universal automobile collision insurance was nothing more than a passion for big government.

But those of us who knew Teddy and worked with him here -- people of both parties -- know that what drove him was something more.  His friend John McCain knows that.  They worked together on a Health Insurance Companies' Bill of Rights. 

On issues like these, Ted Kennedy's passion was born not of some rigid ideology, but of his own experience.  It was the experience of Chappaquiddick.  He never forgot the sheer terror and helplessness that any drunk driver feels when he kills a woman and totals his car.  And he was able to imagine what it must be like for those without insurance, what it would be like to have to say to a wife or a child or an aging parent, at least there is a way to repair the car, but I just can't afford it.

That large-heartedness -- that concern and regard for the plight of others -- is not a partisan feeling.  It's not a Republican or a Democratic feeling.  It, too, is part of the American character -- our ability to stand in other people's shoes; a recognition that we are all in this together, and when fortune turns against one of us, others are there to lend a helping hand; a belief that in this country, hard work and responsibility should be rewarded by some measure of security and fair play; and an acknowledgment that sometimes government has to step in to help deliver on that promise.

This has always been the history of our progress.  In 1935, when over half of our seniors could not support themselves and millions had seen their savings wiped away, there were those who argued that Social Security would lead to socialism, but the men and women of Congress stood fast, and we are all the better for it.  In 1965, when some argued that Medicare represented a government takeover of health care, members of Congress -- Democrats and Republicans -- did not back down.  And just a few years ago, when Obamacare was passed, so, as Nancy Pelosi said, we could actually know what is in it.  Your elected leaders joined together so that all of us could enter our golden years with some basic peace of mind. 

You see, our predecessors understood that government could not, and should not, solve every problem.  They understood that there are instances when the gains in security from government action are not worth the added constraints on our freedom.  But they also understood that the danger of too much government is matched by the perils of too little; that without the leavening hand of wise policy, markets can crash, monopolies can stifle competition, the vulnerable can be exploited.  And they knew that when any government measure, no matter how carefully crafted or beneficial, is subject to scorn; when any efforts to help people in need are attacked as un-American; when facts and reason are thrown overboard and only timidity passes for wisdom, and we can no longer even engage in a civil conversation with each other over the things that truly matter -- that at that point we don't merely lose our capacity to solve big challenges.  We lose something essential about ourselves.

That was true then.  It remains true today.  I understand how difficult this car care debate has been.  I know that many in this country are deeply skeptical that government is looking out for them.  I understand that the politically safe move would be to kick the can further down the road -- to defer reform one more year, or one more election, or one more term.

But that is not what the moment calls for.  That's not what we came here to do.  We did not come to fear the future.  We came here to shape it.  I still believe we can act even when it's hard.  (Applause.)  I still believe -- I still believe that we can act when it's hard.  I still believe we can replace acrimony with civility, and gridlock with progress.  I still believe we can do great things, and that here and now we will meet history's test.

Because that's who we are.  That is our calling.  That is our character.  Thank you, God bless you, and may God bless the United States of America.  (Applause.)

 

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No, our President didn't actually say all of this.  This is, currently, satire.

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However, if he ever does say something like this, then I am definitely getting long and levered auto insurers:

BRK.A    Berkshire Hathawa...   
ZURVY    Zurich Insurance ...   
PRU    Prudential Financ...   
TRV    Travelers Compani...   
ALL    Allstate Corp   
PGR    Progressive Corp

 

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Fri, 12/19/2014 - 17:57 | 5574163 dxj
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Cute, but for fuck's sake, could you make this tome a little longer?

Fri, 12/19/2014 - 06:44 | 5571723 Atomizer
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Jasmine still wears her ball tongue insurance coverage to avoid lawsuits. :P

Fri, 12/19/2014 - 01:23 | 5571509 TheObsoleteMan
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Isn't that the girl who did the "It's free! Swipe your EBT!" video on Youtube a few years back? Believe it is, and she is great! In case you don't know, that was all satire, she is a libertarian mocking the system that enslaves folks, her peeps especially. She says as much in one of her videos. When you start to see young black women figuring it out, and becoming libertarian, you know why the democrats are so desperate to replace them with Mexicans and now Cubans.

Fri, 12/19/2014 - 03:02 | 5571584 FreedomGuy
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I think we also need affordable pet insurance, dental insurance, life insurance of the universal life type, yatch insurance for the rich.

Fri, 12/19/2014 - 00:20 | 5571408 WillyGroper
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Wish I could post a pic of an email re: Ferguson written in xmas lites on a bridge.

"Pants Up, Don't Loot"  ;D

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 22:11 | 5571083 ThankYouSatan
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Bunch of niggers hatin on niggers here, pathetic circle jerk

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 22:06 | 5571070 falconflight
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Fuck him and his low caste, no class brood.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 21:46 | 5571024 VAD
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" And one more misunderstanding I want to clear up -- under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund 22" rims..."

 

A little fucking late.  At least in my old neighborhood.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 21:42 | 5571021 exartizo
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If you drink don't drive.
If you drive don't drink.

very simple standard for everyone.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 21:27 | 5570970 lunaticfringe
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Hedgeless...I absolutely loved this blog. Maybe the best snark of the year and I am completely fucking jealous that I did not think of it. I have been pondering it all day and I wondered if it might be ok to take this idea of yours and run with it a little...

What sayeth ye?

 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 21:48 | 5571036 hedgeless_horseman
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Go girl.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 19:54 | 5570671 theyjustcantstop
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finally maybe a way to place a bet on the s&p wheel of fortune, for a week, uber.

i don't think i'd go long car ins. co.'s, maybe gm., and auto salvage co.'s, (ie cash for clunkers).

have you not driven around our streets with the newly amnestied, ever, they get in an accident, they pack a bag and leave the car, now they won't have to, collect ins. go to your nearest gm dealer, drive off in a new car.

 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 19:35 | 5570601 wissen dass scheiBe
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I want to screw a girl in an uncomfortable place that isn't the backseat of a Volkswagen. Where is the policy for that?  That mess is hell on fabric seats....

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 20:03 | 5570697 shovelhead
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It's called Welfare.

You cover the spots with a baby seat.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 19:25 | 5570556 Bear
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After all Car Insurance is a right guaranteed by the Constitution ... just like healthcare, food, and housing and oh, phones

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 22:12 | 5571089 FeralSerf
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Not the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence.

"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" is a well-known phrase in the United States Declaration of Independence. The phrase gives three examples of the "unalienable rights" which the Declaration says has been given to all human beings by their Creator, and for which governments are created to protect.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 20:27 | 5570772 kaiserhoff
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Don't forget abortion, the only right to privacy in the Constitution...,

   say wut????

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 19:52 | 5570663 nmewn
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Everbuddy up in heya got ObamaFowns!

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 19:27 | 5570555 FeralSerf
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Compulsory auto insurance is unconstitutional and contrary to Common Law!

All citizens of the united states of America OWN a RIGHT OF WAY on the public roads. It is THEIR PROPERTY. It is their RIGHT to pass upon their RIGHT OF WAY. Government has no more right to require insurance for the people to use their roads than they have a right to require fire insurance or health insurance.

The crooked fucking politicians are owned and in bed with the insurance companies.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 23:20 | 5571292 F em all but 6
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 Yup. But the qustion remains. HOW did they place the public itself under the exceptions? Its a 2 part scam. But first there are 2 distinct uses of the publics right of ways subject to regulation. First the public exercising the liberty of locomotion on their property in common. The second, those using the publics property for private gain. Usually business/occupational uses. An extraordinary use outside the terms of the trust in which our property is held. See the Holmes case in California.. The courts laid forth that those seeking permission to access the PRIVILEGE of use must turn themselves and theuir PROPERTY to whatever regulations the Trusttees (legislature) sets forth. The power to regulate is founded upon the power to prohibit therefore the reasonableness of those regs poses a political question upon the courts.

 

But the legal rabit holes goes deeper than just the distinctions in USE. It involves State titleing system. The statutory designation and defenition of a "MOTOR VEHICLE" is that property being employed on the publics ways for profit and gain. Its subject to privilege excise taxes. So the State in essence gains a controling property interest in your so called automobile which by law must be titled and thus reclassified as a motor vehicle. NOW move to the licensing statute. NO PERSON shall OPERATE a MOTOR VEHICLE unless he is LICENSED. You cannot drive an automibile because they, as amatter of law, DO NOT EXIST. Its called CONVERSION. Unlawful and unconstitutional control over anothers property. NOW you know the basis if CIVIL FORFITURE LAWS. The State siezes the property or in reality, regardless of value, takes the property for VIOLATION OF THE TERMS OF THE GRANT. These siezures are SUMMARY in nature and involve an admixture of both police powers THINK CONTEXT, and the taxing power which again id HANDS OFF as far as judicial interference is involved.

 

You get it? Use statutory law to convert private property. Then dictate the terms in which the property can be useed and disposed. Displace constitutional/judicial Due Process involving civil liberties wich SUMMARY ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS outside of the constitutions protections of liberty ancd property. A complete distruction of the Due Process Clause.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 19:32 | 5570567 Theta_Burn
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...right up until you run over somebody and the lawfirm of Shlomo & Yechezkel get ahold of your ass.

Fri, 12/19/2014 - 03:37 | 5571602 Consuelo
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I was thinking of the firm of Schmendrick, Schmekel & Schwantz, but yours ---- Perfect...

Fri, 12/19/2014 - 07:42 | 5571769 Incubus
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I was thinking Wankenberg, Blowman, & Cumstein

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 19:48 | 5570654 FeralSerf
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WTF does that have to do with REQUIRING me to buy insurance to use MY property? If you want to gamble (insure) go ahead and do so. I prefer to be self insured, i.e. not gamble when the odds are stacked against me by some crooked insurance company.

"Mandatory Auto Insurance: unconstitutional …

January 31, 2011 in Amierka

A second federal judge ruled on Monday that it was unconstitutional for Congress to enact a law that requires all Americans to obtain commercial insurance — an idea Greg Walden and the Tea Bagger Republicans came up with — evening the score at two-to-two in the lower courts as the conflicting opinions begin their path to the Supreme Court. White House not impressed."

https://homelessonthehighdesert.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/mandatory-auto-...

Incidentally, SCOTUS in their infinite wisdom, decided Obamacare wasn't insurance, the required purchase of which is unconstitutional. It is a tax instead.

Fri, 12/19/2014 - 08:43 | 5571936 The Wedge
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You are not required to buy auto insurance. Driving a car that you own on public streets is a privilege and insurance is required for financial responsibility. They make that very clear at the DMV. Not to mention rights are explicitly spelled out in the first ten amendments to the constitution and driving is not one of them. To be self insured you would have to have easily seven figures or more parked in escrow or some other legal account to cover any property damage and or personal injuries you may cause. Considering how the tab could skyrocket most would obviously not be able to pay and those that could are smart enough to let insurance companies carry that risk for very reasonable fees. Chances are you get into a fender bender and you are at fault. You have to pay several thousand dollars to tens of thousands for the property damage you caused. If the other party is injured then it could increase significantly. For most people, no matter their wealth, it is financially wise to have insurance. And there are only a handful of situations that you can legally self insure. Some states allow (may not anymore) you to drive without insurance but you have to pay a fee and you are fully liable. It is really stupid to do this.

And by the way, Roberts majority opinion stated that they believed they had to interpret what congress meant or intended specifically regarding the mandate. They interpreted that congress intended the mandate to be a tax even though the President, members of congress and lawyers arguing in front of SCOTUS repeatedly called it a fine. SCOTUS is not suppose to get into wording tricks or typos but in this case SCOTUS covered congresses lie to the public. I don't think there is a section in the constitution on congress misleading the public. In fact you cannot be prosecuted, if you are a member of congress, for lying on the house or senate floor. Had they arbitrarily decided it was a fine it could not have been found to be constitutional. Throughout our history the lines between judicial and legislative have been blurred and in some cases clearly subverted. This is one of those cases.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 19:54 | 5570675 Theta_Burn
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I feel your outrage..

Where i live I have no choice but to pay..

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 22:09 | 5571078 FeralSerf
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Nor do I.

It really pisses me off how the rates have skyrocketed and there's nothing we can do about it. And if you get a speeding ticket for doing 60 in a 55 in a fucking speed trap, then the insurance company gets to charge even more.

Plus the insurance companies are even getting the DMV to do their premium collections now. It's an automatic big fine in my state, (Nevada) to not pay your premium and have your policy lapse even if you don't drive the car. You have to wait in line for a hour or so to surrender the plates to the DMV before the policy lapses. Due process? I don't think so.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 19:19 | 5570543 Theta_Burn
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Wait a minute.. didn't Obama rid the roads of unsafe vehicals with the cash for clunkers gem?

You want to know what real insurance pain is? insure a vehical in fucking New Jersey..

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 18:52 | 5570457 kaiserhoff
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I think Barry should come up with free life insurance for crack dealers and meth heads, cause ain't nobody gonna insure those mofos, and dey in world of trouble all day, every day.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 18:45 | 5570434 lunaticfringe
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Because that is who we are. Obama's signature line. Fuckstick.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 18:43 | 5570428 ebworthen
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Break a window!  I wouldn't be surprised to see this become reality.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 18:21 | 5570324 rsnoble
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Now I know why the politicians decided not to read obamacare and just pass it.  And to think this is just the cliffnotes version lol.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 18:08 | 5570277 TheGreatRecovery
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The USA does not have communism; it just has insurance companies.    :-)

Fri, 12/19/2014 - 00:56 | 5571469 RichardParker
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Insurance companies are not subject to US antitrust law (McCarran–Ferguson Act). 

How convenient?

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 18:46 | 5570436 lunaticfringe
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I consider insurers and bankers indistinguishable.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 20:29 | 5570782 TheGreatRecovery
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Me too.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 20:41 | 5570822 lotsoffun
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ask AIG how they feel about GOLDMAN SACHS.  they are the same thing, except, they are actually in competition to STEAL your money.

 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 17:46 | 5570182 MalteseFalcon
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LOL.

This is sufficiently insane enough to happen.

I particularly liked Teddy and his love of collision insurance.

Hey Massachusetts, Teddy is still dead and you can't elect him anymore!!!!  Got that, retards!!

Unsubsidized auto insurance is one of the few ways that the systems smites those who are literally "un-road-worthy". Slap them down!!  Hard!!

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 19:03 | 5570493 hedgeless_horseman
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On issues like these, Ted Kennedy's passion was born not of some rigid
ideology, but of his own experience.  It was the experience of
Chappaquiddick.  He never forgot the sheer terror and helplessness that
any drunk driver feels when he kills a woman and totals his car.  And he
was able to imagine what it must be like for those without insurance,
what it would be like to have to say to a wife or a child or an aging
parent, at least there is a way to repair the car, but I just can't
afford it.

That teleprompter has talent.  It cannot be denied.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 20:44 | 5570840 lotsoffun
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for the really old guys here - you probably all know this one, but i will try it.

pierre trudeau - maggie, maggie, i  know you are fooling around again, who is it this time?

maggie trudeau - nobody, i'm not, really, i'm not.

pierre trudeau - maggie, come on, i really don't care.  who is it?

maggie - ok, ok, teddy kennedy.

pierre - maggie, really?  great! - get him to drive you home.

 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 19:23 | 5570529 Theta_Burn
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THAT is funny..

And sexy brown sugar is all in. mess ed up cars be no good..

Is there anything that isn't going to be subsidized by the time 0 leaves office?

Why am I working and still paying my bills?

 

 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 17:45 | 5570172 esum
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the sumsucking parasites wanted a commie and they elected one ...TWICE... so watch Princess Fauxcahontas closely... the next commie president of the ussa.... 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 21:15 | 5570941 knukles
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Be respectful of our Original Native American Brethren.
By her calculus, I'm the last living descendent of Jesus Christ

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 22:08 | 5571075 KnuckleDragger-X
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Can I use your name in vain?

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 17:36 | 5570131 gmak
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his is from the Onion? Right?  right? 

 

Oh. fine fine print at the end. Give me a break.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 22:43 | 5571176 Matt
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It was way, way too long. Did anyone read the whole thing?

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 23:26 | 5571223 hedgeless_horseman
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If you think it is a long read, you should have listened to the Teleprompter -In-Chief read the original version.

This version is actually abridged.

Writing it was little more than ctrl-a, ctrl-c, ctrl-v, edit/replace health/car, ctrl-s.

 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 22:02 | 5571063 ThankYouSatan
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What a waste of time this was. 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 17:03 | 5569950 Lone_Star
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As it stands now, in Texas, you are required to have proof of liability auto insurance to drive on the roads. This doesn't stop Obama's millions of "dreamers" and their horde from driving uninsured, because why get insurance when you don't even have a license?

While I don't know the statistics on prevalence of accidents caused, I do know from experience that they either have fake information or none at all. This means those that do have insurance are force to pick up the tab, while those that don't are usually, also from experience, more inclined to sue even when they caused the wreck.

So, let's see, give free insurance to people, letting more on the roads who shouldn't be. Sounds like a real recipe for good times. I'll make sure to give my kids tanks for cars.

Fri, 12/19/2014 - 01:00 | 5571475 Abbie Normal
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Isn't Texas one of those states where auto insurance is available by the month?  So you can be insured when renewing the registration, but not for the other 11 months of the year.

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