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Someone Is Lying
Yesterday, moments before the North Korea "hacking" tragicomedy escalated into full retard mode with Sony pulling The Interview, or a movie that absent the attention would certainly be a flop, Wired released an article titled: "North Korea Almost Certainly Did Not Hack Sony" (title subsequently changed to the one below as can be seen in the URL alias "http://www.wired.com/2014/12/north-korea-did-not-hack-sony-probs"), which however, and for the better, retains its content as it is quite critical in debunking the latest government "certainty."
Continue reading here for the full story, because moments after the Wired piece hit, we got this "confirmation" from the NYT:
It is quite clear that someone is lying (we leave it up to readers to decide who). The question is "why"?
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New York Times? then it's a flat fact!
They did it.... I swear. :)
Sony ought to stuff it up their asses, remove the copyright and just put the full length on YouTube for free.
Right, bcause the US has never done anything based on flimsy evidence before....
Sony pokes North Korea with a stick.
North Korea punches Sony in the mouth.
Sony PR department.
Is there a movie anyway or just a trailer only?
I think the terorristic threats came from the NSA. Never let a good crisis go to waste.
what are the chances of a false flag here? sony=standard oil of new york
Amy Pascal (tribe) is taking one for the team here......
Hoorah! Get those damned North Koreans! They torture people and kill babies! Barbarians!!!
They torture people and kill babies!
Are there incubators involved in the killing of the babies? That seems to work to frighten Johnny and Jane Lunchbucket.
"We have to DO something! Someone please tell me what we should do, I am in a highly suggestible, emotional state of mind at the moment. Quickly!"
Anderson Cooper or Bill O'Reilly will tell me what to think, buster. I will tell you what those thoughts are in about 8 hours.
The N Koreans did it and the Russians did MH17. Trust me I am from the Gov't. Ignor the lack of evidence.
I am going on a pussy hunt to Liberia. I figure that is where the safest pussy lives.
"Anderson Cooper or Bill O'Reilly will tell me what to think"
Anderson will tell you to suck some dick [literally], O'Reilly will tell you to remove the dick from your @ss
So your LIBERIA idea, so far, is the best thing going until something better comes along.
That, and I love the song Brown Sugar by the Stones.
"I'm no school boy but I know what I like"
Mick Jagger has a Beyonce poster in his bebroom. I am fucking sure of it.
Obviously this is the dastardly handywork of Vlad "Hacky-Pu" Putin.
While obama plays video checkers...Putin is hacking the WORLD!!!
More sanctions for Russia on the way.
& to think it all seemed so much more simple in the Ronnie Raygun years.
This article is complete BS. The last line defines it as BS -- without any doubt. "It Impossible to tell for certain unless you are the NSA." Well who the FXck is the U.S. Government if not the NSA? This is the stupidist peice of crap ever in ZH and almost enought to get me from taking anything that is written here seriously...
No idea but the Cuban deal is part of it.
North Korea, Iran and Cuba are the only contries left in the world without a Rothschilld controlled central bank.
I wonder why these three countries are in the news as of late.
Things that make you go hmmmmmmm.
Agree, but we can't discount the Tech Meca that is North Korea. We all know this, right?
I've seen the trailer. We're not talking 'Citizen Kane' here. Who owns this studio, anyway?
I find the whole thing funny. Funnier than I'd find ther movie.
Additionally Sony could dub it in Korean, burn it as an MP4 on a couple of 40 or 50 thousand cheap thumb drives and get them smuggled into North Korea.
Maybe a USB cluster warhead exploded over Pyongyang?
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With that many thumb drives smuggled in, there's a good chance that the movie would be seen on both privately owned PCs in North Korea.
Those photographs of North Korea space center / missle command, it did not look like the computer even possessed a USB slot. Better put the film on VHS cassettes and air drop them in.
We are being conditioned for WWIII. N. Korea invading S. Korea is going to be used as the tripping point for WWIII. Don't believe me? N. Korea will have 20 nukes by the end of next year, they are far worse than Iran yet you never hear a word about it in our controlled media.
http://worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html
Don't believe me?
I do not. More bullshit to cover the greater crimes that are going on underneath the service. All of these politician cats are like WWF wrestlers. Scripted bullshit.
Yes it is scripted. All part of the Global Depopulation agenda used by our Luciferian Oligarchs to keep the "useless eaters" from using up what they view as their resources. WWIII will accomplish their goals and N. Korea is part of the plan.
They even tell you about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
oh and this quote:
"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." - Albert Pike
Sadly, I just don't think it can be stopped at this point. So I'm trying to save as many people as possible by getting the word out. Unlike the Oligarch controlled NY Times.
I did not down vote you, SMG.
Do not let the fear mongering bastards spoil your sunrises was my point.
I'm not afraid any more, I've just come to accept it. Little sad for everyone for what we're all going to go through.
I was reading an article about Japan after WWII, they were completly destroyed and even got nuked twice, but after it was over they rebuilt. I guess knowing we will rebuild let's me still enjoy the sunrises.
7,000,000,000....is the polulation on this little blue marble we calll home. Pull up the beach chair and enjoy the view because this is out of our hands.
Cheers!
so if everyone 'ante's up' and chips in $500, we could build a DEATH STAR & nuke it from orbit.
Oh wait, no need... Just mint a couple of trillion dollar coins... [I'm wondering if NERO ever had that idea]? It would have saved a lot of hassle in the end.
Dude, you're gonna have to do better than Pike and the Guidestones.. Thats just conspiracy-theory for beginners. Utterly unconvincing.
Read this link, it's not that long. If you have any questions I'll try and answer them. Cause like I said my goal is to save as many as possible.
http://worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html
World events are confirming the above analysis.
I scanned it quickly, did not read it. It is unsubstantiated paranoia and ridiculous. Russia "faked" the fall of communism and behind the scenes commies are still in power? Please dude. Maybe you're still young, but I can tell you the world doesnt work like that. Not every event on Earth is part of a gigantic, centuries-old conspiracy by omnipotent evil-doers. No really. I know it might seem like that to you now, but keep observing with an open mind and you will see the truth of that.
Also- you cannot save anyone in this life unfortunately. To believe so is a Messianic delusion that always ends badly for all involved. Better to just let people be, since they will do so anyway.
If communism is dead why do they keep expanding it, even here in the US? The article is not unsubstantiated. His basic premise that WWIII will involve US vs Russia/China is right on, and that that war will be used to usher in a new global government (Problem, Reaction, Solution) Google the START nuclear reduction treaty, look at how China and Russia are catching up with the US in military tech. Look at how China is not part of START and already has a formidable nuclear arsenal. You can verify the reduction in nukes we have here in the US.
Yes not everything is part of a conspiracy and the Oligarchs are not omnipotent. But make no mistake they are very powerful, they are real, and they hate and want to kill off "useless eaters".
The more people who can be woken up, the more people who can be saved from this. Just something I'm trying to do since I guess I can't stop it. Makes me feel better in dark times such as these.
" They" are not expanding communism in the US. It is called fascism. The idea that WWIII will be between US-Russia/China is a no-brainer. Nukes are not relevant.
You will not wake anybody up, better to focus on yourself instead of "saving" others. Reading Icke is not gonna help you.
Times have always been dark. Today is nothing special.
So you concede that WWIII is a no brainer, thank you. So on that premise you or anybody reading this needs to act on this and get ready for what's coming. Just remember the trigger will most likely be N. Korea invading S. Korea or something like that.
If I can just get one person to act, that saves them. Worth the trouble for me.
(On a side note, with your trolling you are trying to convince people NOT to save themselves? What a nice person you are, hope they pay you well to fill that hole where your soul used to be.)
I concede that any WWIII would be between US-Russia/China, not that it will happen. There is no acting on this, since I cannot stop this from happening (if it does) and there is no safe haven where it could be ridden out. So nothing to do. There is no evidence at all the " trigger" would be NK attacking SK, that is just one of many possibilities.
Acting will not save anybody.
I am not trolling, nor am I trying to convince anybody not to save themselves, since saving or not saving themselves is beyond my and their means, plus I dont really care about saving anybody. Whether I am " nice" or not is really not relevant here. Trying to denegrate me or hurt my feelings is not a possibility for you so save yourself the trouble. That I disagree with you is no reason to attack me, unless you are really insecure about yourself, which is often the reason people go around trying to "save" others, while they themselves are the ones in need of attention.
START is a bilateral agreement with Russia just like SALT and SALT II. No one asked China to join any of the agreements.
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Sounds like the kind of crackpottery peddled by net.kook J.R. Nyquist.
The Pike letter was a fake - really. And the FMs are little more than a social group these days. There's no such thing as Lucifer and few of the 'elite' believe in such rubbish.
NWO and the Masons and Illuminati are all terms, imho, largely designed to keep you chasing ghosts.
This said, it can be argued that the Old Testament/Torah serves as a kind of blueprint, and not a peaceful or kind one.
It can also be argued that the New Testament, even, maybe especially for the non-theist, is very much worth reading closely nowadays.
Georgia Guidestones.
* snickers *
Nihilists? Ain't they some kind of Egyptian or something?
This is a great read. http://worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html thanks.
It's a great read if you find net.kooks entertaining (which I do in small doses).
There are so many global flash points for the Anglo-American Establishment to utilize at this point it's virtually impossible to divine which they'll use. That being said, this "leak" is certainly preconditioning for SOMETHING.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/17/exclusive-sony-emails-a...
Why not "normalize" relations with North Korea the way we are with Cuba?
Because they don't make cigars or have sunny beaches?
They should unveil a North Korean dating site, Maybe they could have Jamie Farr as the pitchman. Klinger's Cuties or something like that.
Could be the fear of a Russian base in N. Korea isn't quite the same ?
Who gives a fuck who released their internal emails? Doesn't the government collect all of ours and then calls that the lawful and rightful thing to do? If we can't have any privacy, why the fuck should Sony or anybody else have any privacy? Does Olbombya and the NYT feel a privacy double-standard is American? I sure as hell don't. I hope the hackers get and release more shit like this and level the playing ground. They're more patriotic than Congress, for fucks sake.
+1000 'stealing it'
"Some folks got hacked."
Someone needs to Sony some governments next.
Time for a re-release of "Team America: World Police".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvnNampjni4
Damn right! Since Corporations are people, they shouldn't have any privacy rights either.
I will bet that Ms. Pascal* will have a new and better position somewhere else by September 2015.
"We have this little thing we need you to do. For Zion. Don't worry we'll take care of you after."
An American, not US subject.
We're led to believe NK is in the dark ages, how do they know about electricity and hacking?
They shoot rockets , don't they? (non gunpowdery types that only occasionally explode)
To me, this whole Sony hacking story is probably one of the greatest advertising campaigns to have ever been launched. The free advertising and front page coverage of this could not be bought for any amount of Benny-Bucks.
Personally, I don't think this cyber scam is a Sony creation. I don't think they are smart enough, for one thing. For another, they pulled the picture, so doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of selling more tickets, if Sony was behind this?
"For another, they pulled the picture, so doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of selling more tickets, if Sony was behind this?"
Not if they over insured a crappy propaganda movie or even get a kickback from the CIA/mossad/Pentagon for making the propaganda and participating in a false flag op.
I'm not saying I'm sure Sony hacked themselves, but I'm pretty sure North Korea was not behind it.
Sony hacking themselves would also give victim status [which the sick twisted bastards of hollyweird thrive on] which they can then use for all sorts of favors such as Benedict Barry Obomber recommending that all americans go to the mooovies.
The movie will be released to pay-per-view and DVD/BluRay and make more money than a theater release thanks to all the publicity. The whole thing is pure PR manipulation by SONY.
I'm guessing it totally sucks and isn't funny at all.
I agree, they are trying to hype sales outside the theaters to recoup some cheese.
Rogan and crew aren't funny anymore. This is the End sorta put a spotlight on that and the title said it all. It was just fucking vile for the sake of it.
If they can write PR campaigns like this, why do all their movies suck?
OM - that's not how I see it at all. I haven't seen anyone mention this but I would argue that by not releasing the film Sony is injuring every party who holds in interest in the film, including the actors. Marquee actors generally obtain residuals for the films they star in. I would guess that Travolta is still cashing checks from Pulp Fiction. I wonder if any of those who were injured by this unilateral decision will seek recompense. Cowardice never increases one's safety and security. Sony should expect more pain.
We Lied about some Folks
Dispatch Rodman. STAT.
People still read the NYT?
What's the NYT ?
It's a rag paper from NY, that is wholly guilty of yellow journalism. They are also in financial straights as the semi-educated public knows that they suck, and doesn't buy their paper anymore. They're readership has plummeted, much like CNN, MSNBC, etc...
They'll die soon enough. Don't worry.
Its the 'paper of record', isn't it?
Its the paper that decideds what the news will be for the rest of the "Free Press" for that day.
The NYT is a sort of Who's Who. People read it and are in it to try to enhance their 'status'.
Read the Sunday wedding announcements for clarification.
All the news that's fit to spit.
All the news that fits, they print.
Worry not for the Gray Lady. The CIA will be sure to keep the lights on. Taxpayer money, and all that. I don't believe future Scooter Libbies would be open to stove piping to Tyler.
Why do they suspect North Korea??
Because it was a film about Kim Jong Un.
As crazy as the North Koreans are they're not crazy enough for this. There must be some reason they're being set up. If the dear crazed leader wanted to mete out something nasty for this film he would take it out on his own prison population, that would be anyone inside his borders.
Oh, those North Koreans did it alright!
We can't stand for it.
Syria must pay for these crimes.
This is a totally retail opinion. The Kim's are some of the most insane mother fuckers on the planet, right up there with the Hussein brothers. Cook up the worst theory out of a Stormfront wet dream, add kimchi.
When the programs have korean comments and follow similar patters of attack on Samsung & Toyoda then yes, DPRK is the best guess. As many on ZH love to comment about, never assume a state media story is telling you the entire truth. Particularly when you know Kim has someone read him the NYT sunday ed.
The big problem is Sony wanted to make a new version of "the dictator" which was a studio defining film and one that cemented Charlie Chaplin as a iconic figure both for having the balls to insult Hitler, and say what was on eveyrones mind going into both global stagnation & world war II. If this had worked, it would have been a huge turn for Rogan which has made a career out of fart movies/frat movies. Political satire for the frat consumer would have been innovative given the record slump in box office revenues and fits with the studio's despiration to find new innovation to drive top line.
I suspect Kaz will pull deep into his playbook on shit that goes wrong (hi Smed!) and will either turn the movie out after DIA/NSA confirms the attack (so he can sue NK for about 5b in damages). Releasing the movie now, before he has the flack shield makes no sense and hurts the Sony masterbrand by negative PR going into the holiday season.
On another note, to Erin B, if the Spectre script does need a 4th draft now, the opening scene should be Daniel shooting kim, with a wry remark this is the second time the cheese loving DPRK sperglord has been killed in the past year.
Regarding the Husseins, I am not sure what I even know about them, other than the fact that they were good enough to support until they weren't. I was fed ideas of them dipping people in acid or doing batting practice with dissident's heads, but using the whole "babies thrown out of incubator" proved lie, it's pretty clear the West knows no depths when it comes to inventing fables.
Looking at the lies they've posited about Dr. Bashar Assad and his father is enough for me to know that guaranteed I know what the truth isn't. The truth isn't what they are telling me to forward their position.
Not to mention what they did to Gaddafi. The Libyan people had one of the highest standards of living in all of Africa.
Look at it now. Much like Iraq. A hundred times worse than before the US destroyed their countries.
Meh,
The new sucky version of Red Dawn (which originally featured a Chinese foe but the studios bowed to Chinese pressure and to some extent reality) and Team America painted North Korean in a much less favorable light.
No hack with those.
Not sure why they'd care. I think the chubby kid would dig any press, neg or pos.
Sounds like Vichy DC needed some juicy blackmail material on someone associated with Sony (be it an executive, a rank and file employee, a subsidiary, a contractor, a director, a movie star, a video game programmer, etc.).
This movie provided the perfect cover for them. The caricatured portrayal of the North Korean regime makes it a scapegoat that everyone is eager to blame without a second thought. The NSA could then, posing as hackers working for the cartoonish regime, release just enough purloined info to motivate their target's obedience.
This would have also given them a perfect patsy for any terrist attacks on movie theaters, just to bump up the fear a little more.
aVileRat,
Everyone knows the Kims are violent criminals. But they are not stupid enough to take on America. Also, has it not occured to you how strange it is that NK is completely isolated yet seems to have the money to fund a huge army? They and their families have to be housed and fed, in all kinds of harsh weather, that's a lot of money. They are always training, kept armed and in uniform, that's more money. They maintain a nuclear program, that's heaps of money. Where are they getting the money? What are they selling and buying and with whom?
It's not like the Kims are smart, they are degenerate paranoid killers. However someone wants them there, regardless of how they abuse their own people. They are serving a useful but evil purpose, the question is why and for whom.
Come on, we all know it was Richard Jewell.
NYT ~ all the lies that are fit to print.
NYT article will be swallowed by the torture supporting plebes just as Kim Lardassian swallows ...
Yahoo questions that prove that there is very little hope for the humans.
http://acidcow.com/pics/66502-yahoo-answers-questions-show-theres-no-hop...
While there's certainly plenty of ignorance on display there, some of those are obvious trolling.
let's see, should I believe Wired when it comes to a story about computer hacking or the Jew York Times?
hmm...
Comparing and contrasting a sophisticated high tech cyber attack to a country where the identical people a few miles south are on average statistically larger because they aren't generationally starved, a country which by virtually every other measure is frozen in time, is absurd. These people worry about what their own people think of dear leader, not anyone else. Given most people there have a better chance of sprouting wings than seeing a hollywood movie, any idea that North Korea is trying to do some damage control here is located in a realm of fantasy as retarded as the fables and legends surrounding the leaders of North Korea itself.
This could be the gayest false flag in history.. it is absolutely retarded. This is dumber than when Susan Rice accused Gaddafi of giving his soldiers viagra so they could more effectively rape people at the UN. This is like telling a grandiose lie for the benefit of nothing.
The only thing I can think of is that someone or someones at sony pissed off someone in the club and are paying the price for it.
What is the deal with this shit? Something feels weird about this whole thing.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkzrj3_vHTA
I listened to that last week falling asleep. Talk about some fucked up dreams. I'm a big Quizzayle fan - he's worth a listen no matter what. I got no idea about this Nibiru stuff ( Listening to Steve Quayle say Gabriel's fist gets me every time - also he talks about a book about suitcase nukes he wrote but never published called "lucifer's luggage" which is hilarious) or the long orbit second sun or the destroyer but anything is possible..
To your point, in my usual uncomfortable 5am lamentations I pondered that we're probably getting to the start of whatever the fuck it is we've been calling for for years. That isn't out of the ordinary, but today I was stricken with the notion that we're probably all fucked no matter what because as you say, the weird factor is a little high for me and I'm a weird guy to start with.
Remember when Atari buried 700,000 E.T. games in the New Mexico desert? I think this "hack-job and theater threats" is Sony's way of dumping bad product. Black Annie, Kim Jong Un-terview, Fury, Still Alice, Mister Turner, and To Write Love on Her Arms? Some of those SHOULD be buried and forgotten.
That's an interesting scenario. My only thought was the fact that apparently some personal information (SSNs) from their employees got out which makes one wonder why they'd let that happen. On the other hand, to a sociopath - that kind of shit doesn't matter ( not only the severity of the deed, but more importantly they would not care about the guaranteed legal ramifications).
Create pressure for Sony exec ouster from above...and below....and outside, as well.
Makes me wonder if a DNC "donation" check bounced.
Seriously, what's the motive for them eating their own in this way?
"Interview" promo items going for big $$$ on Ebay:
http://tinyurl.com/lsnbex5
Hollywood are liars. The idiots falling for this are so stupid.
Geez, I'm glad the united states government never ever engages in hacking, recording, digital thievery or any other kind of cyber warfare against its own or other country's citizens and company's.
/sarc
I have never seen a studio do so much to bury a dog of a movie. /s
My guess is theytested in with a few audiences and it was total garbage like all of Hollywood's garbage. Two tribe members leading men in a real turd.
We lied. Nobody died.....yet.
They cyberattacked some folks. No actually they didn't so we lied about it to some folks.
What's new.
'said to find'. nyt get out clause.
They never had [garbled] 'SENSUAL' [/garbled] relations with that woman.
Cue the 'GARBLED' homonyms!
3rd front opening up?
I didn't believe it was North Korea the first second I heard it. The government lies and the NYT is a government mouthpiece.
Hilsenrath would make a good movie critic for the WSJ. Maybe he could team up with Liesman.
Two thuimbs up! Way up! For the new period piiece that tells the tale of a young Janet Yellen who would one day save the world with her invention of the perpetual printing machine.
The New York Times has distinguished itself as a propagandist for the Pentagon. If you find any truth in the New York Times, it is only by mistake.
The New York times hates America, American Values, and the US constitution. That's pretty obvious.
It is a 24/7 propaganda organ for the ZWO. Nothing more.
No self respecting fish would allow themselves to be wrapped in it.
Hopefully they'll keep laying off propagandists until there's nothing left of them.
All the New York Times does is publish lies and propaganda for war.
Yeah, the very New York Times that published all the lies of Judith Miller that led to the million plus deaths in Iraq. Yes, the very same New York Times that clears its stories with the Pentagon. Yes, the very same New York Times that refused to publish the Guardian story that Obama signed an agreement with Israel in March 2009 handing over all the NSA data collected on Americans without any legal restrictions. The credibility of the New York Times and its propagandists is less than zero to put it gently.
On Monday, the Times public editor Margaret Sullivan was compelled to respond to a barrage of emails from readers demanding to know why the newspaper had failed to write one line about the secret NSA documents released by Snowden showing that the agency was funneling raw data, including the telephone calls, emails and other online communications of American citizens, to Israeli intelligence.
“Friends of mine who never before believed that newspapers suppressed the truth are shocked by the evidence before them,” wrote one reader.
Sullivan reports a discussion on the matter with managing editor Dean Baquet, who told her that the story wasn’t “significant or surprising” and that the paper had more important things to do, such as “cover the turmoil in Syria.”
In other words, the NSA-Israel story was news that didn’t “fit” the Times overarching propaganda line in favor of a war in Syria that is intimately bound up with Israeli interests.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/18/nyts-s18.html
You have to consider- Sheldon Adelson floated the idea of buying the Times because he thinks it's not pro-Israel enough.
This is the same guy who as an individual tried to buy the US presidency, in the person of Mitt Romney, who would have essentially outsourced American foreign policy to Israel's batshit crazy Likud party.
As you probably know, Israeli companies built much of the NSAs network to begin with, covered by Wired, and virtually no one else.
http://www.wired.com/2012/04/shady-companies-nsa/
Given Israel's history of aggressive spying against the US, the precedents of the attempted false flags of the Lavon Affair and USS Liberty attack, and doing things such as posing as CIA agents while attempting to make contact with terrorists [See Mark Perry's article "False Flag?" in FP from some time back] it is absurd to let them build your network, provide security at airports and apparently nuclear plants, and then give them the unscrubbed raw data on all Americans thereafter.
Of course recent bills have essentially completely tied Israel's "defense" - a country of 8 million people, to that of the United States 330 million souls. On the other hand, by and large the American people seem to either not notice, or not care that Israel's supporters, very much including 50 or 60 million Evangelical "Christians" (whose grasp of the New Testament seems tenuous to me, anyway) have largely hijacked American foreign policy - and the media is complicit - to the extent that references to Israel/Palestine by bin Laden were basically completely scrubbed from all media, as was the story of the Israeli spies arrested on 9/11 who were likely watching the hijackers.
Shining Light On Roots Of Terrorism By Ray McGovern
Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-Israel per se, but they have almost assuredly compromised the NSA, as surely as they were deeply embedded in the Office of Special Plans under Bush. Donor money, media influence, and thousands of sayanim combined with tens of millions of Apocalyptic Quasi-Christians mean it's going to get worse before it gets better.
If it gets better.
to new Counterpunch
Good review. Tks.
To accept dual-citizens amongst your National lawmakers' body is akin to have traitors in your midst. Where does your allegiences really rests?
According to the latest ZH I read on the subject (before the latest election,) there were around 27 Congressmen and 13 Senators who held dual citizenships with Israel.
Latest update would be nice.
Thanks, Michelp. This may be of interest to you:
The Israel Lobby CowbirdWhen I was a boy, I asked my grandfather what newspaper he read when he first came to NYC from Finland. His response, "The Sunday New York Times".
"Wow!", I said, "That's a pretty sophisticated paper for someone who was just learning English".
He replied, "Well it was the same price as all the other papers, but I could use it to start my fires all week long!"
True story!
Even pulp fiction has value.
Anyone remember the movie 3 Days of the Condor or whatever with lefty Redford? Max von Sydow was good as the hitman.
Anyway at the end, Redford tells CIA man Cliff Robertson that he gave the whole story to the NY Times.
I laughed back then because it was a total movie scam like Hollywood always does. North Korea. What a joke.
It's a two-way street. We hack some, they hack some. Whatevs!
You know you can trust the New York Times! /dev/null
If it wasn't the North Koreans, it was a stroke of genius picking that movie to blow Sony up. Perfect frame for North Korea.
South Korea ?
am i supposed to care?
No. You are supposed to be scared of Ebola and that missing jet.
Oh yeah, unemployed negroes and Mexicans. Hide!
NPR interviewed one of the world’s top computer security experts from Cali today who said “there is zero evidence the attack was from NK.” He said, “They simply do not know who or what country it came from.”
I'm surprised they didn't pull him off the mick when he said that.
he needs to stay away from tall buildings with open windows
probably the last time they'll have him on National Propaganda Radio.
Edward Snowden recommends seven proxies to maintain anonymity in the Brave New Matrix World.
While that may be overkill, if hackers attack from behind seven anonymous proxies [bouncing from server to server around the world], there is no way to find out where it came from unless they do something stupid such as to leave a clue in their code or tracks.
Well......It will start with "Due To National Security" then the Bull Shit SPEWS from his Mouth.
There are three guys in NK with barely more than a dial-up connection right now......
Previously, "American Officials" also concluded that a movie was responsible for precipitating the Benghazi attacks. Sorry, not buying today's Nork narrative.
Must have been those commies using smoke signals or flag semaphores. Poor Sony had no chance.
Believe the magazine that lives and breathes tech and hacking/programming stories, or believe the administration mouthpiece newspaper that is the US equivalent to PRAVDA. Tough choice
Stupid Sony, don't resort to such guerilla marketing tactics when The Pirate Bay is DOWN, they're hilariously less effective when people can't pirate your shitty movies before buying.
King Dollar going godzilla on tokyo
DXY well over 89
strong dollar hurting corporations
take any S&P earnings report and you'll likely find similar
Coca Cola:
"The impact of currency in the fourth quarter is expected to be a 6 to 7 point headwind on operating income and a 9 point headwind on EPS."
http://www.coca-colacompany.com/press-center/press-releases/the-coca-col...
WIRED is just another media outlet pushing the Gov. line.
No respect for this shithole of a publication.
Could be. However, they were the only outlet that revealed the extent of the NSA Utah data archive center.
I always thought that the NYT's was an arm of CIA.
It was already common knowledge and only a matter of time before it got picked up by the mainstream media. They spun it to make as little damage as possible to the GOV. It goes for a lot of their articles. If you read enough alternative information sources and look into the backgrund of Wired contributors you soon realise WIRED is just another GOV. stooge.
Washington Post even more so.
I don't know if they're controlled, but their articles usually lack substance. They're mostly dedicated to techie hipster types who don't know anything about hardware or software, but want to feel smart by having the latest gadget and reading “complicated” tech stuff.
Geez, I thought you were talking about what happened to 'Scientific American' there for a minute...
Scientific American should change it's name for a proper reflection of what it has become.
"Scientific Whore American".
Even American science has been co opted by the money.
What is it to the US who did what to Sony ?
Keep your nose the fuck out of other peoples business.
You, you, you....Americans.
It's "cyber terrorism". Whatever that means.
Why are they lying? For .gov it provides a boogie man that we must give up moar rights if we are to be protected. For Sony it means moar fiat for what would have been a flop at the box office. See, it's a win win for everbody except for the American people.
Supreme Commander Jong-un already has his pirated Director's Cut with custom subtitles.
Reports are that he laughed at the inanity of the movie, but in the end he got bored and was hoping for something better.
Wired Magazine seems a bit more libertarian in their articles. I will side with their assertions, lucid and rational as they appear.