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World Awaits Russian Response As Obama Makes "Lethal Aid" To Ukraine Legal
As we explained previously, quietly hidden within the humanitarian-sounding "The Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014", under the premise of enabling further sanctions on Russia, is the provision of "lethal aid" to Ukraine. Today, President Obama signed it into law...
- *OBAMA SIGNED RUSSIAN SANCTIONS BILL TODAY, but
- *OBAMA SAYS HE DOESN'T PLAN TO IMPOSE SANCTIONS UNDER NEW LAW
Because he knows full well that is not the important part. The "lethal-aid" aspect is a direct provocation to Russia.. and he knows exactly how Putin will respond.
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As we reported over the weekend, in the tumult surrounding Citigroup's annexation of Congress with the passage of the theatrically dramatic $303 trillion derivative quid-pro-$1.1 trillion spending quo, what most missed is that Congress also unanimously passed the The Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014, which not only expands Russian sanctions (read the details here) but far more impotantly, provides "lethal assistance to Ukraine’s military." And as we explained, passage of this law is just the pretext some Russian legislators needed to push for a full-blown, preemptive military incursion in east-Ukraine.
“The decision of the US Senate is extremely dangerous. If it is supported by the House of Representatives and signed by their president, Russia must reply with adequate measures,” Mikhail Yemelyanov of the Fair Russia party told reporters on Friday.
"It is quite possible that we should return to the decision by our Upper House and give the Russian president an opportunity to use military force on Ukrainian territory preemptively. We should not wait until Ukraine is armed and becomes really dangerous,” the lawmaker stated.
Yemelyanov also noted that in his opinion the US Senate’s decision to arm Ukraine had revealed that Washington wasn’t interested in the de-escalation of the Ukrainian conflict. He then said that US actions gave him the impression they was seeking to turn Ukraine into some sort of an “international militant targeting the Russian Federation.”
“In a few years Ukraine will turn into a poor and hungry country with an anti-Russian government that will teach its population to hate Russia. They will be armed to the teeth and Ukraine and US reluctance to recognize the Russian Federation within its current borders would always provoke conflicts,” the MP said.
Furthermore, we asked if "this means that what was a lingering proxy cold civil war in east Ukraine between NATO-armed Ukraine troops and Russia-armed Separatists and local militias is about to escalate into a shooting precursor to something greater? There is still hope an all out escalation can be avoided" and we cited White House press secretary Joshn Earnest who last week said that "the administration hadn’t finished reviewing the language and isn’t ready to take a position on the legislation. He said the administration wants to ensure that the U.S. and its European allies are working together, that any sanctions are effective and that they minimize harm to U.S. and European companies. “This is delicate work,” Earnest said."
Apparently, not delicate enough, and moments ago we got confirmation that the epic collapse in the USDRUB is just a jovial preview of the main event. To wit:
- OBAMA DOES INTEND TO SIGN RUSSIAN SANCTIONS LEGISLATION:EARNEST
- OBAMA LIKELY TO SIGN SANCTIONS BILL BEFORE END OF WEEK: EARNEST
And with that, US "lethal aid" will shortly begin arriving in Kiev, which in turn will be just the pretext needed by Sergey Lavrov and the Kremlin to escalate the recent events in Russia as a direct attack by the West, and to demand retaliation against a US president who "does not reason" as the Russian media will appeal to the population in an attempt to "rally round the flag", and as a result Russian tanks may have no choice but to enter the separatist territories in East Ukraine.
What the western, and certainly NATO, response at that point will be, is far beyond our meager prediction skills.
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Good luck!
"Lethal Aid", what a bunch of wormy, mealy mouthed, evil motherfuckers. Have the balls to say, "we are arming these fuckers to the teeth, what are you going to do about it?"
That would at least earn some respect, even though they would still remain evil.
Zionist puppet masters going all in.
With a fckin Kenyan flag flying in the Flame House. Extreme stupidity. Bankers rule the world and need an idiot as the front man. Enter Barry Soetoro.
We typically send "lethal aid" whenever there's something like ethnic atrocities or terrorism in a country. By this action, the government is attempting to get the public to think of Russia the same way they think of the South Sudan civil war or ISIS.
This is not only an open slap in the face to Russia; it also serves propaganda purposes here at home.
We armed some folks
Mazel Tov !
And yet again the ZH comments eclipse the aticle in both humor and insight... :-)
Happy Holidays Hedgies.
Government must continue to create situations so that the dupes will believe that they need it.
You don't mind if WE fight a war over there, over your ignorance over here, do you?
Russia's going to default on 600 billion of fed paper.
Ahh now I get it, today was the insider pre-ramp to the announcement of a new war.
casus belli (kay-s<ls bel-I). [Latin] An act or circumstance that provokes or justifies war.
Black's Law Dictionary
https://www.congress.gov/113/bills/hr5859/BILLS-113hr5859enr.pdf
As a result today's enactment of the Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014 and under international law, the Russian Federation is now entitled to retaliate against the United States of America using all conceivable means at their disposition, whenever they deem appropriate (UN Charter, Chapter VII, Article 51).
War is officially on.
More power to them, fuck the Federals.
Exactly. The Russian oligarchs have lawyers too. They know all the UN and IMF bullshit laws and will exploit them against these Fed aggressors. Have all the political puppets completely forgotten about the Nuremburg Trials...
"Following orders" and "passing laws" won't save you.
Well there *are* ethnic atrocities going on... what do you think "punisher" battalions do?
Oh, that's in the Kiev-controlled part... never mind.
Russia should declare Kiev a state sponsor of terrorism. The US likes to do that kind of thing, and turnabout is fair play.
Burning people alive is an act of terror, and the US is arming terrorists as far as I'm concerned.
What?
AK-47’s and RPG’s aren’t good enough for the Nazi’s?
Oh.. so they want to be at least as well armed and armored as U.S. domestic police forces.
"...Oh.. so they want to be at least as well armed and armored as U.S. domestic police forces..."
Svaboda and Right Sector (Nazi) leaders run the Ukraine interior ministry and their members make up most of it's staff. They were put there to protect the Jewish-Ukrainian oligarchs and U.S. assets from the Ukrainian people. Their biggest threat is from regular Ukrainian Army conscripts (who mostly hate them) and rival Jewish-Ukrainian Oligarchs' private thug armies (who do whatever they're paid to do).
The U.S. has totally fucked up AGAIN, similar to what they did in Syria. Arms are sent to 'moderate' FSA, but the soldiers and the U.S. equipment eventually makes it to al Nusra and ISIS head-choppers. All of it. All the time. No exceptions. Sorry, Wolf Blitzer - you're fucking WRONG all the time.
Now the U.S. will be sending stuff supposedly to the regular Ukraine army. Except those soldiers and equipment will eventually make it to the Svaboda/Right Sector Stazi or one of the Jewish oligarch's private thug armies. All of it. All the time. No exceptions. Sorry Wolf Blitzer - you're going to be fucking WRONG this time, too.
There is no Ukrainian army any more to arm. The conscripts don't want to fight for *any* Jewish oligarch - they want to kill them. Since a lot of the Jewish oligarchs don't even live in Ukraine, the soldiers don't even have that chance. They're deserting and leaving Ukraine because there simply is no future for them and their families anymore. Ukrainians are not stupid - they've just been through this before. It never turns out well.
In the mean time, the Ukrainian Stazi and private thug armies will keep arming themselves to the teeth. It's permanent gang warfare there now. There is no political objective - it's just a steady job for the foot soldiers. If Svaboda/Right Sector or a Jewish oligarch can't cough up weapons and a paycheck (in USD or Euros only, please) then those foot-soldiers are gone, too.
Another U.S. sponsored death-camp for democracy. Yay!
It's amazing how you always focus on the trivial aspects of whatever subject is at hand. It's almost as if you're trying to derail every thread you post in, like any good provaceteur would.
Whether you are a paid troll, or merely the next useful idiot, the ruling banksters appreciate your support.
Who are you referring to?
Nope...
What does it matter? Almost every general comment to the main article in a ZH comment section is posted as a repy to whatever the last random comment someone read was. And half of the replies that actually are intended as replies to other commenters are replies to the wrong comment. But you only realize that after you've scrolled up the entire page to find the last comment that's further to the left of that reply and find that it has nothing to do with the reply.
And don't even get me started on the reply-to-reply-to-reply runs that end up with single-word coulmns of text. And still, commenters insist on replying to that last single-word column comment they read, even though their reply is actually in reference to a comment 15 posts earlier.
Worst comment section on the internets.
You'll be fine.
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Zion has a big stake in Ukraine. Israeli has been deeply involved in supporting the rise of Nazi Lvov and surrounding Galicia Eastern Europe. Since the founding of Israel, Mossad has spent heavily in cash and manpower resources to support the Nazi elements in this province that is split between Poland and Ukraine by the World War Two peace settlements.
Mossad steeped up funding and advisory support of fascism in schools and civic life. The building of monuments to Nazi's and West Ukrainian Nationaislts. Like Bandera. As the crisis brewed in Madian, Mossad was all over Kiev along with the CIA. Most likely Mossad or the CIA arranged the sniper massacre in Madian cementing the fascist coup. Later we learn that the pilot who shot down MH-17 with his SU-25's 30MM air to air cannon, is hiding out in the UAE since days after his attack, along with the woman in a supervisor role in Ukraine ATC, she was the one who sent MH-17 into the death trap. The west refuses to investigate MH-17, but are hiding evidence and waiting for time to pass and it to be forgotten. The Unit number, aircarft number and pilots and ATC names are: " Malaysian Boeing 777, MH17, according to our data, was shot by Su-25, hull number 08, which was piloted by Lt. Col. Ukrainian Air Force Dmytro Yakatsuts, who from July 18 to this day is in the U[nited] A[rab] E[mirates]. The Kiev center manager, Anna Petrenko, unexpectedly went on vacation on the morning of July 18th, from which she did not come back."
UAE and Mossad share intelligence services and are allied in every sense. Thus Israel is as much involved in this mans silence and protection as any UAE intelligence services. Why would a Ukrainian pitlot and a female ATC flee to the Middle East?
One might wonder what stake Israeli has in Ukraine.
Evil never deserves respect. Thats where the NWO fits in. PURE EVIL.
I just saw the Fed blindly following a jersey devil. Go figure.
MOAR WAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
More pain and suffering for the good people of this earth that just want to live life.
H won't be happy until we are all dead and glowing, while he sits in his bunker with congress.
No more trillion dollars in debt!
FU obummer and CONgress........
"We lethalized some folks"
They have words to make any evil deed sound ok to the donkeys.
"Patriot Act", for example. Written by George Orwell I suppose. "The affordable care act"...I could fill a book.
I still remember during the invasion of Iraq when ZNN said they had "peppered" some people with hellfire missiles.
The propaganda in the US is very sophisticated. Probably the best propaganda in the world. That's probably why we're in such sad shape.
And what are the Amercan people goingto do about it, thats right NOTHING.
They might see a tiny flash of light and that's all they ever see again. It is sad because mose PEOPLE on both sides are good people. People in general don't think things would ever change for the worse because it has always been ok so it will always be ok. The chances of it being VERY NOT ok are increasing daily though and the sheep be asleep. Iphones, teevee and food have the sheeps heads permanently down.
Look at the bright side.......
war will turn around our economy (business will be building booming things),
and lead to full employment (for those left alive and not glowing in the dark).
The US should stay OUT of Ukrainian affairs. It is Russia's turf. Ukraine may not like it, but it is what it is.
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I know it is still a rumor, but LOL that Bearing Guy suggested yesterday that Russia will find it harder to buy gold, and may even have to sell it.
Deliberately False Story on Russia Gold Sales, or Just Sloppy Reporting?
http://winteractionables.com/?p=17161
It "should" stay out, but it won't.
As Putin correctly stated, the encircling and squeezing of Russia has been going on for many decades. They are not about to stop now, when they are so close to the end.
Time for Russia to say to the West, on the sanctions front
"You're squeezing our finances, we need more dollars, you have forced us to foreclose on our $3B Ukrainian loan, oh, and if that $1.6B owed to Gazprom isn't paid back as agreed on the 31st December all gas through Ukraine goes on prepayment to stop theft."
And militarily
"Russia is determined to maintain the ceasefire in Ukraine, if Kiev breaks it, with or without the new US weapons, the full force of Russia will be applied to restore peace."
ZH's conclusion is all wrong, as usual. Russia will not do anything. Their strategy is to sit and wait until the bilateral trades bypassing the dollar it has signed kick in.
To boost, ZH links this conclusion to Lavrov: the softess, most diplomatic guy I've ever seen.
Who are the Tylers anyway? a bunch of teenagers living in their parents' basement money on this clickbait scam?
Internal politics (i.e. popular support) may not allow that. I agree, that's what Russia's leadership is hoping for, but it may be untenable if the west tries for a Russian spring.
"Russia will not do anything. Their strategy is to sit and wait until the bilateral trades bypassing the dollar it has signed kick in."
This may be the most assinine post ever. I hope you right but I fear you are wrong. The move to rearm Nazi thugs in Kiev gives me some really bad feelings. Russia will not sit and wait out anything. Putin has been a model of restraint so far to the West's provocations. I think Putin may now be forced to react militarily - this is not good.
Come on Vlad, it's to slap this bitch.
Expect some territorial expansion of Novo Rossia... starting next spring.
No need to wait until Spring. Russian military equipment works jus fine in wintertime.
Historical fact: Military action against Russia, always lead to the expansion of Russian territories.
Admiral Togo still says you're wrong. The man was a chronic stutterer.
Admiral Togo says you're wrong.
Admirals are not fighting on land. This is the first one.
Russian always come for their money - says Otto von Bismarck. This is the second.
Right now, the Russian held four islands, which they won in Japan. This is the third.
"Come on Vlad, it's to slap this bitch."
Hey, don't shoot the messenger, but YOU tell me if Putin will be doing the slapping or getting slapped? Here it is from his lips: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww5X4jgxqYw
Pay attention to the last two minutes.
I sense nothing but more diplomacy "talk, talk, talk". As much as I think he needs to take strong action -- the way true "tyrants" would or his Soviet predecessors would have, it is clear that he will NOT take direct military action.
He can talk about the Russian Bear being defanged and declawed, but he already IS acting that way when it comes to Ukraine. As a minimum, he's getting some VERY BAD advice, or the Chinese are holding him back.
At this point I have to give the US/NATO a clear and decisive lead on points: The wealth and comfort of the average Russian is being affected far more by this than that of most NATO members, or that of North Americans or Aussies -- if we ignore other small, poor, former Soviet satellites bordering the region.
As time passes and he takes more beatings, he will lose more support and here on ZH, since he will be perceived as weak under all that rhetoric and posturing.
Strong is as strong does. Guys like Brezhnev would not take the kind of shit he is taking. And the US/NATO will just keep on marching East, will keep on piling on. Because he's a Spy, not a Soldier.
You say exactly how faux news. They are also trying to give their dreams "about the suffering of Russian" as a reality.
Noben get a pair of binoculars so you can see across the street,
let's not forget that open mic moment last year with the former pres of russia, medvedev. somethign sneaky is going on with these 2. i seriously doubt they all the sudden lost the love.
Yeah I think the whole thing is smoke, mirrors and horseshit
There is something distinctly odd about the architects of our evolving neoliberal US dystopia finding it so necessary to knock heads with the shining neoliberal utopia of "economic freedom" of post-Soviet Russia.
Like Jews wanting war with Israel. Not to invite the comments of the forum Nazi delegation, mind you.
Different sides of the same oligarch coin.
Smells like bullshit to me, too, everytime I think about it. But it's hard not to get pulled into the drama as if it makes some sort of fundamental sense. But I suppose that would probably be the whole point. Nothing keeps the public spellbound while their pockets are picked quite like apparent conflict.
WWF, "Reality" TV, Repugs/Dims, etc. Hell, look at how much money gets spent on actual/legitimate sports as if that's worthy of the vast resources devoted.
What a fucked up world. Thinking about it critically, though, this is probably all about setting the stage for assigning blame for the economic meltdown that will give rise to the oligarchs' NWO world.
Gotta keep the necks of US politicians, billionaires and banksters out of the guillotines when the shit hits the fan, I'm guessing.
"Like Jews wanting war with Israel" Not following you on that one?!?!
Its the provocation that smells....like bullshit really..
2 weeks ago Israel bombed 2 sites in Syria, and nobody said shit, 2 days of page 6 news and that was it.. You understand that Israel was threatend by this cargo, and responded Natanyahoo fuck you style.
All I can say is at least there are some with cooler heads involved here
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In Russia rumor among the investment banking circle is Medvedev is a western banking plant.
In Russia, if there was even a suspicion of this, he would be dead...
According to whom? You?
The majority of Russian oligarchs are Jews. There's a lot of cross interests. Israel regularly advertises tourism, and if you hadn't noticed Israel isn't participating in the sanctions.
Israel never gets involved in sanctons, they just piss and moan that somebody needs to get bombed.
If Medvedev was/is playing both sides with the likes of Putin, well, hes lucky to be breathing or exiled somewhere.
Putin's history with alot of the Russian Jew oligarchs hasn't turned out so well for the oligarchs
Regardless of how big Putin is, jewish interests are represented everywhere.
Just because Putin knocked down a few jew oligarchs doesn't mean he's gone after them all. The jew oligarchs have their own clans and powerplays amongst themselves. Putin has gone after a few, but the majority are still doing business as usual in Russia.
Forbes.ru list of Russia's 200 wealthiest businessmen starts off with at least half the list being Jews.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie...
http://www.forbes.ru/rating/200-bogateishikh-biznesmenov-rossii-2014/2014
Going by the evidence at hand, and not the sentiment from the 'Putin Fan Club' on ZH, it is clear that Nuttyahoo will not hesitate to bomb Russian weapons in Syria. Putin has not and will not do the same to US arms in E. Ukraine.
He took the Crimea because his military wanted it, but not E. Ukraine, where millions of Russians are freezing, suffering, bleeding and dying. Shame on him.
If he doesn't have the balls to do it, he should call Bibi and tell him that a bunch of Hezbollah guys are setting up rockets. I do not like Bibi, his agenda or his methods, but I respect his courage and willingness to act militarily.
Washington has never won against Putin. This time, Washington will lose again. But no one knows how and when.
Fuck you, Obama, and fuck every piece of shit in DC who signed on to this abortion of legislation.
You'll get us all killed, you stupid motherfuckers.
Agenda 21
"You'll get us all killed, you stupid motherfuckers."
Unfortunately this is becoming a very real possibility.
The problem the way I see it is that the dumb USA mule is having their military apparatus used as a ZWO syndicate policy enforcement tool, and the fact is that Russia is not Iraq, or Syria or Libya. So in a sense we're sleepwalking into WWIII.
At some point, Russia is going to have to either defend itself, or standby and wait for the Khadafi head on a pole routine...and I doubt they are going to focus their attention on Ukraine, but rather the head of the snake.
They have a potent aresenal with which to defend themselves or even [gasp] the insanity of the Bush doctrine of pre emptive war to preserve the peace.
Inside Russian nuclear sub as it fires missile that can level a city (VIDEO)
Bulava is the newest generation of Russian submarine-launched strategic nuclear missiles paired with new Borey-class submarines as their designated carriers. The K-535 Yury Dolgoruky can carry up to 16 of them in its launchers.
https://rt.com/news/200835-russia-borei-bulava-launch/
RSM-56 Bulava
Designed by Moscow Institute of Thermal Technology,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSM-56_Bulava
As I've pointed out before, the anti-Russia folks tie themselves in knots when it comes to this stuff. For them, Russia is somehow both a laughably weak military force and also fully capable of marching across Europe and seizing it for Putin himself.
They can't have it both ways, but I guess that's why doublethink was invented.
Q. Who do you think votes for those "stupid motherfuckers"?
A. Other stupid motherfuckers
“It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes. - Stalin
9% congressional approval rating, 96% re election rate.
Interesting that we vote on electronic machines with no audit trail. The vote count is whatever they say it is.
I always found it interesting that Joe Lieberman won 2 elections, both with the exact same number of votes. The probability of that happening is almost non existant.
Look out, cause she's a democrat.
Obama is a sack of shit.
Comparing a sack of shit to Obola is demeaning to the sack of shit.
At least the sack of shit came from a good place and good ancestors. Obammo the guileless fool - is just a mouth with a high degree from a school that produces mostly banksters and theives.
Chess game takes a while,
This could quickly move from a game of chess to two kids shoving each other in the schoolyard.
The Russians know chess and are probably quite familiar with the well known - though rarely used - final play of breaking the board over your opponent's head.
Nah, if you wait long enough, the hot heads will break the board over thier own heads.
Agreed but to be very honest I am still not sure if Vlad is playing along with the elites or he is really against them (elite are well known to create equal but opposite force)
We shall see with his next move if he is for real or just playing the game as scripted
it is a big club and you ain't in it
I think it's more about
1)shoring up world opinion as to who the real aggressor is
2)diversifying and strengthening alternative economic ties away from western dependence
3)buying additional time for new weapon systems to come into production (s-500. PAK-FA etc)
it truly seems that way hence game of chess but than what because the west is pushing hard
NoDecaf's on it. Putin kept saying in his speech that we're willing to work with western partners to make sure (IF) THE RULE OF LAW IS FOLLOWED IN UKRAINE.
It's not being followed. Tension on the trap spring is increasing...Ukraine's important but it's not the prize.
There is a law for uin's, and a law for wein's, and they aint the same law. Our law is designed to kill, yours just controls.
Russia is going to need a lot of new weapons systems to defend themselves against their real future enemy:
China
But, it will likely not matter. China will win whatever they want of Siberia and the Russian Far East.
And I do not really care who wins. As long as we stay out.
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I just hope that our own awful .gov does not wind up destroying the good run that America has had through most of our history.
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Respectfully disagree (and no down arrow).
That would be nice. For some reason, though, it seems that the US cannot exist without an enemy to vilify and attack.
Another nice thought, but it's a little late for that. The MIC parasites are sucking the last drops of economic blood from the carcass of the US before they flee to their next host. Perhaps someday a bit of something can be salvaged from the lifeless husk that was once the US of A.
By the way, DCRB, did you get a chance to read this yet?
http://www.russiaotherpointsofview.com/2014/04/russia-report-putin-.html
Fourth, I have always found you to be smart, courteous (I like that courteous part) and well informed when it comes to Putin and Russia. And of course having a nice sense of humor (another sign of intelligence).
No, I had not run into that article. I JUST read it as I respect your links and suggestions. It is interesting, but I am not in a position to intelligently comment. Thank you for sending it, I can recommend that other distrustful-of-Putin guys read it for perspective.
Really DoChen?
Please do tell...
I've read some authoritative strategic plans for the USA to dominate the Eurasian landmass, including both Russia and China. Could you provide some authoritative sources from China that back your assertion? Would really like to read them. Might provide some counterbalance to the recent bilateral currency swaps, oil and gas deals, trade agreements, etc. between Russia and China...
Today he just officially stated what they are doing/providing from the get-go.
Yeah, this is pretty much saying, "Hey, we've gotta protect our $5 billion investment, right?"
US send weapons in Ukraine for maybe past 6 months. Some private companies, i think that one bulgarian company is involved, work in sending different kind of weapons.
On the bright side, the Ukie oligarchs are stealing whatever is sent and selling it.
What ever happened to the 400+ Black Wasser troops Barry sent over there?
Russian soldiers dismantled them into small puzzles.
These are the same sociopaths that think it's perfectly fine to send these American weapons to every 3rd world corner on the globe and then have the audacity to try and disarm the American public.
If this happens can u imagine how 'wet' this will make the Asst Sec of State Victoria Jane (Nudleman) Nuland Kagan?
She may find out how the KGB uses the word 'wet'.
We can only hope so.
Waterboarding her stupid-ass would get her plenty wet.
Putin tried and failed. Lethal aid is already there, and this law cements that all the support needed to kick the Russian army invasion out will be coming. The soon to be liberated populace of the "People's Republic of Donetsk" will be sharing their stories of nightmarish Putinastan oppression soon enough.
Putin shouldn't feel too bad; pretty sure he can hold on to Crimea and that's a win.
It's all over. Time to stop whining, losers.
It's all over? It's just now close to beginning.
"This War is just beginning" Kutuzov
Useless talkings.
Stay in your own country and worry about the whole things being in flames.
Just as we Americans should stay in our own country and worry about the same.
Another funny and unsurprisingly cheap propaganda production. What else in this US driven world?
Do you really think that the US Army could defeat an army of Russia, in the land where lives Russian population that hates you?
Or is it you have such a rich sense of humor?
This is the whole problem, sheep of Putin. You assume that Ukraine is a part of Russia to do with as you wish. It is not. Having pro-Putin thugs beat the shit out of anyone who dissents creates no allegiance.
Once the body-bags start pouring back into Russia, they'll string your master up by the man-boobs.
The problem of the western sheep is that they ignore the will of the population of South-east of Ukraine and Crimea.
You are a sheep that you can not even answer the basic question: What is the nationality of people who live in the southeast of South-east of Ukraine and Crimea?
They are Russian or Ukrainian? Western sheep have only one answer: Nationality these people called "separatists". ))
You could do a referendums under UN auspices in the south-east of Ukraine and Crimea. Maybe then you will realize that the population of these regions - a Russians and Ukrainians who hate you and despise. And they will always shoot in the back, any soldier of NATO as soon as possible.
Come on ZH, you know what the bill actually says - the President MAY provide lethal aid, but is not required to. He's said he won't provide it, which means it isn't happening. I know you guys like to be provacative but this entire story is wrong.
Just like the NDAA, they dont practice the revocation of your rights but legally reserve the option to do so.
Let me guess kidchicago, born and raised?
And let's not forget how the "Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002" wasn't an actual declaration of war against Iraq. It merely said the President could use military force if he deemed it necessary.
And even if Obama doesn't send "lethal aid" (it's probably already happened anyway), he's only president for two more years. Who knows what the next asshole-in-chief could do...
Or not do, timer bitches!*8
So, why pass and sign the bill at all?
Eternally, anyone may do anything.
I'd say you're the one who likes to be provocative. I didn't know it was possible to fit this much ignorance into two sentences.
BTW, have you ever posted before in your 3+ years of being signed up, or is this your first attempt at sock-puppetry?
'Merica: we give 'em the democracy cause we got so much here
The War on Consciousness
@Uranus Hertz: Mine feels much better after listening to this! ;)
Thanks for sharing.
Temps dropping in Ukraine. Below freezing 24-7 soon.
But, Yes, Attack Russia in the winter. Good Idea:
German Army Winter Warfare RussiaCan Alexcojones or any other zh history buff recommend a good History of Russia book … preferably less then 5 volumes and 10,000 pages long?
This is a novel about an important battle in WW1, but does give a insight into the mind set of the Russians, August 1914 by Alexsandr Sotzhenitsyn. Sure not much has changed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_1914
Here is many:
can't say for most of them, as I know only some...but is a list for you
http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/2453.Best_Russian_History_Books
however, I recommend these two for off main track some and you might not
find yourself:
The Icon and the Axe Billington
Ukraine A History Orest Subtelney
and absolutely read Solzhenitsyn
Uninvited Amerikan exceptionalism hard at work again rescuing disparate countries that didn't ask for their 'help' & making them so much better!
Hunter Biden pulls more weight than I thought.... Maybe he shared his blow with the prez....
There's only one thing hidin' Biden pulls!
Obama Is a War-Mongering Punk.
His handlers - the War-Mongering Punk NeoCon/Bolsheviks - would like nothing more than a White-Goy European Civil War for Hanukkah... if it's not too much to ask.
Zio-Punk crackdown and thinning of "the herd" in USSA to follow - or so they think...
"Obama Is a War-Mongering Punk."
Fine, I agree. But, in the Red Corner, we have... WHAT? Mike Tyson? Hardly.
I see now a guy who can't/won't defend his own Front Door from some Punk across town.
Gimme a break, and let's put aside our (yes "Our", mine too) pro-Putin sentiment and start holding him accountable. I've had enough of covering for his schizoid actions (all talk, no walk). The man needs to act, not talk Obama into the ground.
Obama-the-golfer sends air shipments to E. Ukraine for day after day, has his Money-Men smack the CBR, and what does Puting do? Fucking TALK. For 3 fucking hours.
What do Texans say again about hats and cattle? I'll be impressed when he acts and kicks the Junta out of power in Kiev, and rounds up all the American toys in E. Ukraine (Novo Russia). Until then, "I'm from Missouri".
Putin must be stopped. At any cost. Only 'Merica can do it.
We need an American version of fascism. To Unite Us All.
Our great cause is to beat Putin.
If you care about freedom, like this page!
https://www.facebook.com/pages/American-Fascists-Against-Putin-AFAP/4106...
Well, isn't that special?
You related to kidchicago, by chance?
Well, they DID join at the same time and both just started posting now...
This is satire people.
Satire as well as irony is not recognized or appreciated by everyone on ZH. But some of us enjoy it.
Are you being really over-the-top sarcastic, or are you serious? If you are serious, I suggest you committ yourself to the nearest phychiatric facility to get help.
Won't work, his daddy is a shrink.
Satire!
Mocking the US Government. They think they are justified in stealing from us, to kill Russians in Ukraine.
And they expect no pushback.
Fucking fascists.
Keep your shorts on and don't forget to breathe, you "brown-shirted Kool Aid Kid".
Putin (and his military) got what he/THEY wanted: Crimea. This is all for show. He'll make lots of noise, but the US and NATO are in Ukraine to stay.
The Turning Point had two shoes dropped: One shoe dropped last week, when the US Airlift of US Arms to E. Ukraine started and Russia did bugger all (but complain feebly). The second shoe just fell when Putin and the CBR did not back their currency with oil (not PetroRouble) -- the way the US does.
I was HOPEFUL, but now I'm disappointed. And not just because I'm "hard to please". IMO, this Game's Over. That cat's been spayed & neutered. I sincerely hope I'm 100% wrong about him, but I don't think I am. I just call it as I see it -- no matter what my own bias or sentiment might be.
What's on TV? And why isn't Russian vodka coming down in price?
duplicate
paulcraigroberts.org
vlad's got in under control (which doesn't include a knuckle under).
violence is not the answer
In all of recorded history it turns out that violence has always been the answer.
The Washington fascist regime (merger of monopoly corporations with government) has successfully launched their dual war offensive against the American People and Russia via the congressional “Christmas” session.
The New Year offensive by the fascist against the American People and Russia is far from over, the contagion bloodbath in the world economies is slashing deeper every day and Obama is at war.
The fascist banksters transferred trillions in debt to the American People via their totally corrupted and criminal puppet Congress without much debate and no fight. American pensions, Social Security and social services, which all fascist hate, are doomed and Congress has legally signed American People to be debt slaves to the fascist banksters FOREVER.
Amazing isn’t it how EMPIRE fascist work behind the curtain to corrupt democracy, but it is no mystery, their evil criminal methods are always the same, secrecy, militarization, torture, mass murder, extortion, bribery and terrorism. Our Founding Fathers had to deal with this same corporate monopoly bankster fascist group and recognized that fascist are the enemy to democracy and Free Enterprise System of capitalism economy that must be free from corporate monopoly.
The fascist bankster puppet Congress also passed a war with Russia recommendation based on contrived evidence of Russian aggression on the Ukrainian border, then the puppet Congress, passed another war resolution to escalate that war against Russia in the Ukraine: The Ukrainian Freedom Support Act of 2014
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/2828
By the actions of their puppet Congress, I would say that the fascist banksters want world war so that they will never be brought to Justice; with war, a total totalitarian state can be declared and dissenters can be rounded up and disappeared.
All exceptional and indispensable psychopath fascist dream of EMPIRE and ruling the world by grand tyranny.
Members of Congress are TRAITORS to all Americans and should be arrested and tried for Treason to the American People and our Constitution.
In the case of revolution, Congress critters are going to be on a deck of cards with a bounty on them; think about that Congressman!
More like ethno-Bolshevik controlled.
In reply to Ragredux: You do not even know what ethno-Bolshevik means, your sentence fragment gibberish is meaningless, improper English.
then pleaze tell what ethno-bolshevik means to you....
I believe price collars on PM's go into effect Monday 12/22 at Comex..........coincidence?
Obama is the lap dog of the BANKS and will do what they tell him to do !!!
and Putin will also do as the BANKS tell him to do !
This is all FAKE for another FAKE Banker WAR !
Reasons may be fake.
War will be real.
Because there is no such thing as friendly fire.
How would the USA feel if Vlad planted some missiles in Cuba? Or doesn't anyone remember what happened 50 years ago?
That is the only reason I can think of for Obummer's sudden love for Castro.
Sudden? The ('you-didn't build that') Kenyan has been reading out of the Communist (Manifesto) playbook since back in his 'choomin'' daze! Normalizing relations with Cuba means admitting the Amerikan system has failed to the Jr. Senator from Crimetown! Cuba is his model & vision! His kind, elegant, inspiring, transcendant, beautiful 1st Lady hates being an Amerikan! (Except when the dopey tax-payers pay for her numerous 7-star vacations)
Sorry, Itchy & Scratchy, but I don't buy that!
Obama, hasn't made this decision alone because of his communistic ideologies. He has proven to have NO ideologies other than those dictated to him.
I also believe that this new openness to Cuba is a direct chess move against increasing Russian investment and intelligence gathering operations happening on that little Island.
The War Game Rules have been read. The participants have their pieces in place, the Dice have been weighed, cushions, chairs, bean bags for the old hippies have been supplied and, the warring party's have been identified.
Let the war games begin!
The ethno-Bolsheviks running the USSA are eager to cause another Holodomor in Ukraine. Russia, Ukraine, Eastern Europe, SA, China, now the US and Western Europe, doesn't matter, same global mafia programs and tactics.
Mao's instructors:
Frank Coe, Israel Epstein, Elsie Fairfax-Chomeley, Soloman Adler, and Sidney Rittenberg.http://blogs.forward.com/the-arty-semite/159051/a-jew-in-maos-china/?#ix...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eRvKKDy6nM#t=36
blogs.forward.com: "In fact, 85 to 90% of the foreigners helping the Chinese at the time of the Communist takeover were Jewish."
On the one hand this is staggering. But on the other, the 13th tribe has a very long history of being commies, Marxists, fascists and other assorted totalitarian abnormalities. And that continues right to this day.