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China Tests Nuclear ICBMs, US Analyst Warns "Arms Control Is Failing To Increase American Security"

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China carried out a long-range missile flight test on Saturday using multiple, independently targetable reentry vehicles, or MIRVs, according to U.S. defense officials. As The Washington Free Beacon reports, the test of a new DF-41 missile, China’s longest-range intercontinental ballistic missile, marks the first test of multiple warhead capabilities for China (the DF-41 is capable of carrying up to 10 warheads and has a maximum range of 7,456 miles, allowing it to target the entire continental United States). Rick Fisher, a specialist on the Chinese military with the International Assessment and Strategy Center, warned "the beginning of China’s move toward multiple warhead-armed nuclear missiles is proof that today, arms control is failing to increase the security of Americans."

 

 

As The Washington Free Beacon reports,

China carried out a long-range missile flight test on Saturday using multiple, independently targetable reentry vehicles, or MIRVs, according to U.S. defense officials.

 

The flight test Saturday of a new DF-41 missile, China’s longest-range intercontinental ballistic missile, marks the first test of multiple warhead capabilities for China, officials told the Washington Free Beacon.

 

China has been known to be developing multiple-warhead technology, which it obtained from the United States illegally in the 1990s.

 

However, the Dec. 13 DF-41 flight test, using an unknown number of inert maneuvering warheads, is being viewed by U.S. intelligence agencies as a significant advance for China’s strategic nuclear forces and part of a build-up that is likely to affect the strategic balance of forces.

 

China’s nuclear arsenal is estimated to include around 240 very large warheads. That number is expected to increase sharply as the Chinese deploy new multiple-warhead missiles.

 

The current deployed U.S. strategic warhead arsenal includes 1,642 warheads. All 450 Minuteman III missiles have been modified to no longer carry MIRVs. However, Trident II submarine-launched missiles can carry up to 14 MIRVs per missile.

 

Additionally, the development of China’s multiple warhead technology was assisted by illegal transfers of technology from U.S. companies during the Clinton administration, according to documents and officials familiar with the issue.

 

“The DF-41, which could be deployed as early as 2015, may carry up to 10 MIRVs, and have a maximum range as far as 7,456 miles, allowing it to target the entire continental United States,” the report said. “In addition, some sources claim China has modified the DF–5 and the DF–31A to be able to carry MIRVs.”

Analysts are sounding a warning...

Larry Wortzel, a former military intelligence official who specialized on China, said the Chinese military has been working on a MIRV-modified DF-41 for a number of years.

 

Wortzel said Chinese military research literature has documented work on the DF-41 but the Pentagon “has been reluctant to discuss or confirm these developments.”

 

“The United States is now threatened with a more deadly and survivable nuclear force that makes our weak ballistic missile defenses less effective,” Wortzel said. “We need to improve our own defenses and modernize our own deterrent force as the Chinese are doing.”

 

Rick Fisher, a specialist on the Chinese military, said the advent of China’s MIRV capability should mark the end of U.S. efforts to reduce the number of nuclear warheads.

 

“The Chinese have not and likely will not disclose their nuclear warhead buildup plans, Russia is modernizing its nuclear forces across the board and violating the INF treaty with new classes of missiles, so it would be suicidal for the Washington to pursue a new round of nuclear reductions as is this administration’s preference.”

 

Fisher, with the International Assessment and Strategy Center, said China may deploy a combination of single-warhead and multiple warhead DF-41s, with the single warhead version carrying a huge “city buster” multi-megaton bombs.

 

“The beginning of China’s move toward multiple warhead-armed nuclear missiles is proof that today, arms control is failing to increase the security of Americans,” Fisher said. “Instead, it is time to be rebuilding U.S. nuclear warfighting capabilities, to include new mobile ICBMs, new medium range missiles and new tactical nuclear missile systems.”

 

Georgetown University Professor Phillip Karber has studied China’s nuclear forces and believes its arsenal is far larger than the U.S. intelligence estimate of 240.

 

“The Chinese development of the DF-41 has been a long term, methodical process,” Karber said. “However, if as we suspect they are going to put a MIRVed version of the missile on both rail and road-mobile launchers, the number of reentry vehicles could grow quite rapidly depending on the number of warheads they end up putting on the missiles.”

 

The DF-41 was revealed inadvertently by the Chinese government last summer when details, including the fact that it will be a multi-warhead missile, appeared on a provincial government website before being quickly censored and removed.

And even the US government is making public statements:

After several years of silence on the DF-41, the Pentagon disclosed the existence of the new missile in its latest annual report on the Chinese military, made public in June.

 

“China also is developing a new road-mobile ICBM known as the Dong Feng-41 (DF-41), possibly capable of carrying multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles (MIRV),” the report says.

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Between Russia and China, it seems 'isolation' is building.

 

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Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:06 | 5577028 waterwitch
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Nothing to see here....move along.

 

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:14 | 5577055 TeamDepends
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Wang Computer is obviously in charge of hardware.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:28 | 5577094 HedgeAccordingly
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National Bureau of Statistics: China’s Economy Is Bigger Than We Thought, $308.8 billion larger : http://hedgeaccordingly.com/2014/12/national-bureau-of-statistics-chinas...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:03 | 5577204 0b1knob
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Well its not like the US has forgotten how to make nuclear weapons.   Oh wait....

http://tech-beta.slashdot.org/story/09/03/09/1428240/us-forgets-how-to-m...

We are so phucked.

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:39 | 5577296 Anusocracy
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My, that's one big steely dan.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 02:34 | 5577455 COSMOS
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My Gosh, I didnt know Asians could be so 'well endowned'

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 03:44 | 5577495 Fish Gone Bad
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Nuclear weapons aren't harmful.  Heck fukushima blew up 3 nukes and they are going to have the Olympics. Take a look at all the tests done in Nevada https://maps.google.com/maps?hq=http://tools.wmflabs.org/kmlexport/%3Fpr...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 08:18 | 5577685 negative rates
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Isn't that thing suspossed to self destruct before it gets to a town near you? Sort of like their environment??

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:28 | 5577740 SoilMyselfRotten
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Hope no Chinese leaders conjure up a 1% doctrine

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:35 | 5577949 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Will the Chinese accept more printed USD for their new technology?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:27 | 5577821 rubiconsolutions
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"My, that's one big steely dan"

+100 for that very obscure cultural reference

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:30 | 5577940 shovelhead
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Girls just somehow know these things.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:58 | 5577337 noben
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"By way of deception..."

Don't fall for it.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:07 | 5577710 BorisTheBlade
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I'm quite certain Chinese kept a better record of American secrets. Maybe ask them?

upd: too late - Los Alamos are no jokes either: http://www.lanl.gov/science/NSS/pdf/nwj2_09.pdf (p.20)

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:31 | 5577747 SoilMyselfRotten
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Were they packed with scorpions?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 12:10 | 5578019 Winston Churchill
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That article is wrong about at least one major  part.

The Brits make their own warheads(MIRVS) at Aldermaston, and have since Maggie Thatcher.

They didn't want any US backdoors in them.

Debunks the whole article.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 18:03 | 5579071 ebader
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England is using us-made tridents nuclear missile but build their own warhead like you said.

The US will give authorization to use the weapon at last resort! Like a good puppet!

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 08:21 | 5577689 HowdyDoody
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If anything deserved the name Long Dong, this is it.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 14:43 | 5578464 Richard Chesler
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That'll certainly catch Obongo's attention.

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:21 | 5577922 Freddie
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Bill Clinton and Bernie Schwartz gave China MIRV technology paid for by US taxpayers.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 13:07 | 5578167 Oh regional Indian
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Well, since US taxpayers have been making hay at the expense of the rest of the world due to petrodollar shennanigans and various other Pentagram type un-earned dollar strength, I think any outrage is totally misplaced and misdirected.

The US taxpayers had it too good for too long for no better reason than being a part of a covert and overt global dictatorship via their .gov.

Get over thoughts of manifest destiy, it was always a red white and blue lie...

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 18:15 | 5579076 ebader
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Ahah love it!

Your response made my day...

Every citizen of the world should have an acre of and for free in the US and an American bit..., oops woman.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 02:03 | 5577056 hobopants
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I think we need to take the warheads out of them and stick the politicians (American, Russian and Chinese who think that these horrible fucking things are a good idea) in them instead, and then fire them off all at once.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:16 | 5577059 SafelyGraze
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that big yellow object is very happy to see you

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:33 | 5577282 lakecity55
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"Reggie, do you think it would fit?"
"Bend over again, Munchkins."

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 14:18 | 5578374 DutchR
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So if everybody can kill everybody, eh...

 

There is something to win, no?

 

Humans, the smartest dumb animals on the planet.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:07 | 5577030 phoolish
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Amerika hasn't participated in 'arms control' for more than 20 years.  We've recklessly attacked and provoked numerous others, large and small.  Perhasp if we'd actually tried 'arms control' the situation would be different.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:17 | 5577065 Reptil
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And developed "mini-nukes".
No one gave a toss at the time apart from some concerned scientists and a few activists.
It's a stupid weapon. What's the point in destroying everything when you want to win. No one wins when these fuckers go off.
Do they really want to win? The one that seems most psychotic poses the greatest danger and thus is most powerful.
Too powerful to win.
Strangeness...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 05:57 | 5577580 Arnold
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You are against American exceptionalism, I infer?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:55 | 5577777 Took Red Pill
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This is old but still a good analogy of what the US has for nukes;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bJsGJhpZd8

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 20:24 | 5578629 bitterwolf
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edged weapons beat by firearms...nuclear weapons beat by directed energy weapons....what do think all that black budget money was for......they dont do prosaic at area 51 ....lol....Sun Tzu says you lose if you have to fight...than instructs how to fight once the big "win" could not take place...NOBODY wants mushoom clouds ....at least not MULTIPLE lol... NWO- inescapable outcome regardless of nationalism or racial identity...age old dream breaking out of engineered chaos.....

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 03:12 | 5577486 Rick64
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  But America's weapons are for democracy and freedom. Also free elections. Now the Iraqis and Afgans can elect the leaders they want. Thanks Team America

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:31 | 5577826 IReallyDontCare
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But America's weapons are for democracy and freedom. Also free elections. Now the Iraqis and Afgans can elect the leaders they the US wants. Thanks Team America

 

Corrected for you.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:11 | 5577044 USA USA
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The current deployed U.S. strategic warhead arsenal includes 1,642 warheads.

Well HELL YES, we nead MOAR!!!!

FU WAHINGTON!!!!

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:03 | 5577888 flapdoodle
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Those 1600+ warheads are ample to defend what they are supposed to defend.

Israel and the Zionists.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:11 | 5577046 topspinslicer
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Hey look over there! It's Iran!!

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 05:08 | 5577544 winchester
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biggest weapon of usa is, was and will always be MSM....

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 06:00 | 5577581 Arnold
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Weapon of mass deception.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:12 | 5577047 Ignatius
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Fortunately, the US is not doing anything provocative around the world, otherwise we might worry.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:40 | 5577132 Real Estate Geek
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Exactly!  We just keep turning the other cheek to multiple--MIRV'ed if you like--casus belli, like when the Russians unilaterally withdrew from the ABM treaty.

Oh, that was us.  Nevermind.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:16 | 5577060 silentsock
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That's a "game changer"(God I hate that term - but it certainly applies here).

If they have MIRVs that are mobile, they are capable of unleashing LOTS of hell, and we probably can't entirely stop them. They don't need a very high success rate to kill millions of people, and annihilate miles of valuable real-estate, rendering it uninhabitable by humans for many decades.  Just a few MIRVs over NYC and DC would be absolutely devastating to our nation.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:23 | 5577082 Consuelo
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"Just a few MIRVs over NYC and DC would be absolutely devastating to our nation."

Oh the horror...

Toss me a cold one please -

 

 

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:46 | 5577149 Real Estate Geek
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Kentucky Fried cities . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoYazAAScOE

(less than 10 seconds)

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 03:02 | 5577477 August
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"Just a few MIRVs over NYC and DC would be absolutely devastating to our nation."

If it's only DC and NYC, I really don't see a problem.  Net-net, the population of the planet comes out ahead, paticularly those living in Flyover Country USA.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:32 | 5577280 lakecity55
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....and??

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:10 | 5577361 Ginsengbull
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Losing NYC and DC might actually be good for our nation.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:24 | 5577930 Freddie
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What about LA/Hollywood?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:15 | 5577367 Nexus789
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Try stop very few and kill hundreds of millions. That is the idiociy of nuclear war for capitalists as it destroys capital.

Here is some fun Xmas break reading.....

http://www.nucleardarkness.org/index2.php

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 06:03 | 5577583 Arnold
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I do not think that they can disable the GPS function on the Japanese chips for guidence that they are using. Dooh!

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:03 | 5577894 chubbar
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You can thank Clinton for giving them the technology, what did anyone expect they'd do with it?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:16 | 5578762 Arnold
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Melly Kistmas Lound eye!!!!!!!!!!

You buy turkey deep fly now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:22 | 5577074 Consuelo
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Loss of $USD as global trade currency is a far greater threat to the U.S.   Funny though, it still ends at the same destination as the missile: War & destruction.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:28 | 5577091 Stumpy4516
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 I find it surprising that China is just now testing multiple warhead nukes.  I had assumed China was modern enough that these were already in place.  And since Russia is susposed to be the military fighting buddy of China why did Russia not supply the technology many years ago?

Perhaps China is still a little behind (but catching up) in all the high tech areas.  And perhaps the alliance between Russia and China is a measured one, which would mean expecting China to risk itself for Russia has to taken on an event by event basis, if at all.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:50 | 5577162 Real Estate Geek
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Perhaps the impetus for MIRV's was the US's unilateral withdrawl from the ABM Treaty.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:53 | 5577176 roddy6667
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China has had the ability to drop nukes from a submarine on ANY American city from the Sea of Bohai for a while now. BTW, these subs are not detectable by American technology.

Americans, except the Southerners, have never had a war on their own soil. Now they know that that next one will be right in their living room.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:17 | 5577252 Prober
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"these subs are not detectable by American technology"

Incorrect. I know, I helped supply the American technology :-))

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:08 | 5577356 Ginsengbull
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That's one of those "need to know" things...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:27 | 5577379 roddy6667
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Last year a convoy of floating American might and technology was cruising throught the Taiwan Straits just to aggravate China. They were shadowed by aircraft and submarines. Smug does not even begin to describe them, thinking they were invincible. Just then a Chinese sub surfaced in the middle of the flotilla just long enough to fkip the bird and disappear. The shit hit the fan because nobody knew they were around until they surfaced.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 05:32 | 5577564 Lore
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And lest we forget:  Mystery Missile Launch off California Coast: Submarine? (2010)

"...It is time to be rebuilding U.S. nuclear warfighting capabilities..." < Considering recent history, that kind of statement takes serious balls. 

Seriously though, doesn't today's MIRV test strike you mainly as posturing, to remind warhawks that their old toys are obsolete?  The new war is primarily data and system oriented, yes?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:20 | 5577923 Prober
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I see the pattern: you anti-Americans blame the MSM for bias, fiction, lies, etc in any reporting that is positive for USA and negative for others

BUT

you immediately accept as fact any report in the MSM that is negative for the USA.

If you were on a sub that you thought could evade USA detection and tracking technology, and I was in the CIC on a ship with the technology I know USA has, then you would not be able to qualify for life insurance

and I would be very happy to press the FIRE button :-))

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:24 | 5578780 Arnold
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The MSM has bias?

Hells Bells RT is too right wing for those few that still get their news from the telly.

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:08 | 5577358 Ginsengbull
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It's the tech that they DON'T talk about, that really makes a difference.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 06:06 | 5577584 Arnold
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War of English agression - 1812.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:11 | 5578743 FeralSerf
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That was just the Rothschilds' repo men.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:28 | 5577092 joego1
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I already see a problem it has two drivers.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 02:20 | 5577443 COSMOS
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LOL you need a second driver to stop the thing if the first guy has a heart attack.  Would you want that thing out of control

Also having seen some asian drivers one cant help but hope a second set of eyes might be a good thing.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:33 | 5577095 Maxter
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"arms control is failing to increase the security of Americans." Geee I wonder why? Could it be that other nation realised that the US won't hesitate to destroy your nation if you have no way to strike back? The best way to increase the security of americans is to stop messing around with other people country.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:43 | 5577099 Taint Boil
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That sure is a large phallic symbol - fully erect and “ready to blast off”.

No penis envy implied of course …………  no need to upset our new masters / overlords.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:40 | 5577297 Ginsengbull
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It's a completely new taepodong.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:32 | 5577105 NoWayJose
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The Chinese goal here is just part of their overall strategy to counter or eliminate any US military advantage.  If China can now launch nukes at the US - from China no less - then the ability of the US to launch on China is no longer a deterent to China.  Not that I see nukes flying over the Pacific, but the US will never again be able to use the nuke threat against China -- no matter what China does.  Similar Chinese development of aircraft carrieers, stealth planes, and submarines is along the same lines of reducing or eliminating the US military as a threat to whatever China decides it wants or needs.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 12:41 | 5578104 Boubou
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Pretty soon we will be back in the full-tilt  MAD  - mutually assured destruction.

The total pinnacle of al lhuman insanity  - they would rather annihalate what's left of life on earth than lose their  total power over their sphere of domination  - allof us.

After "Dr Strangelove" laid it all out so perefectly, there could never be a trace of hope for our race.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:34 | 5577113 honestann
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The neocon-jobs are vastly more dangerous than China and Russia combined.  So are central banks.  So are fiat, fake, fraud, fiction, fantasy, fractional-reserve debt-notes.  And so forth.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:57 | 5577186 joego1
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The Chinese play the same game.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:02 | 5577188 roddy6667
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Most of the NeoCons are Jewish.

Most of the bankers are Jewish.

I wonder what we could to solve our war and banking problems.

Just saying'.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:06 | 5577217 noben
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< Have them convert to Zen Buddism

< Have them convert to Christianity or Islam

Sorry, you/they won't like Option 3. (sarc)

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:29 | 5577384 roddy6667
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Try me. I might like it.
no /sarc

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:04 | 5577790 css1971
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You're a banker plant. Divert attention away from the problem to a racial group and stir up the biggots. Make sure the bankers and banking remain in place.

You're a traitor to the 99% of the non psychopathic human race and should be strapped to a chair and strangled.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 13:52 | 5578291 Counterpunch
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You're a traitor to the 99% of the non psychopathic human race and should be strapped to a chair and strangled.

 

So you're a 1%er, eh?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 13:54 | 5578297 Counterpunch
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we could stop the wars and end the Fed and break up the large banks and refuse to let American tax dollars back stop Wall Street gambling.

You know, address the real, systemic problems.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:37 | 5577117 FieldingMellish
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Imminent nuclear annihilation is dollar bullish. Good for stawks too! Sell gold.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:37 | 5577127 joego1
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Ho hum just driving down the chinese hiway with my nuclear bombs, what could go wrong?

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:41 | 5577141 no more banksters
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Cold War 2.0 : China tests 10,000-km range nuclear missile

http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/10/cold-war-20-china-tests-10000...

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:45 | 5577156 Fuku Ben
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We really do need to consolidate all governments around the world and create a New World Order, One World Government and a One World Spirituality

It just has to be free of all these lunatics, psychopaths, murderers, connivers, secret societies and every other individual, group or entities that currently subverts freedom and promotes death, destruction and domination at every opportunity

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:18 | 5577243 noben
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< New World-Order
< New-World Order

Not the same. Huge difference.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:23 | 5577812 headhunt
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Yeah!.... Let's be ants

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 12:41 | 5578085 Boubou
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Trouble is, anyone who really wants to be in the leading elite is always a amoral,corrupt,  self-seeking power mad murdering s.o.b.. Your government would only work if the members were selcted by a saint and forced to serve 2 years against their own inclinations, like a jurur.

Plato worked that out a long time ago/

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:47 | 5577164 yogibear
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"the development of China’s multiple warhead technology was assisted by illegal transfers of technology from U.S. companies during the Clinton administration"

While Slick Willie was chasing woman the Chinese were chasing MIRV technology. 


Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:37 | 5577289 red1chief
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I do recall a scandal in the 1990's, in which campaign contributions were reportedly being funneled to Cinton's 1996 re-election effort by the Chinese military.  Seems they got a good return on their investment.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 04:36 | 5577531 Spanky
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Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:49 | 5577165 nuke ISIS now
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Fucking Clinton should be hanged...due to that mother fucking douch bag cocksucker we now hve the Chinese with multiple war head technology....FUcking bilderberg / fabian society cancer group (which includes Obola) tearing the US down...fuck them

Intersting times my friends..these may indeed be the end times prophesised in the bible 

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:53 | 5577175 yogibear
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Clinton was out banging women. 

This guy can't get enough.

http://canonclast.com/article/hillary-2016-bill-the-buck-clinton-gets-cl...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:21 | 5577811 headhunt
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An asshole with a dick

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:29 | 5577273 lakecity55
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True that. He jumped them 10-15 years ahead in technology.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:15 | 5577369 Ginsengbull
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The W88. He sold it for campaign contributions.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:38 | 5577399 The_Dude
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It's almost comical reading about it now....

You know what deficit we need to start focusing on in this country....leadership deficits

The incompetence is beyond belief. 

http://www.eagleforum.org/psr/1998/june98/psrjune98.html

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:49 | 5577169 Taint Boil
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One pic shows 7 rows of tires and the other shows 8 rows……..

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 02:29 | 5577447 COSMOS
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Guess they were changing a tire LOL

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:58 | 5577195 stant
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Guess we could sure. Use that missing 2 trillion $ from the pentagon budget right now. Guess that went to hookers. And blow

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:16 | 5577368 Aussiekiwi
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there's always more hookers and blow...providing you have the budget.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:24 | 5577931 flapdoodle
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Nah, it went for an extra Litoral Combat ship and another F-35

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:15 | 5577244 Prober
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I am not worried about the 1.5 BILLION Chinese, growing at rate of 100 MILLION per year, because the Pacific Ocean separates us,

BUT

if I were Russian, with the largest land mass country, full of natural resources that the exploding Chinese population needs, and with a tiny population of only 146 million, and a loooong land border that the Chinese can just drive across,

THEN I would be very worried. Vlad is very good at tactics but does not understand long-term strategy - in the long run, Russia needs western allies, not enemies.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:36 | 5577395 vincenze
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The Chinese don't like cold climates. They even prefer not to live in the northern part of China.

They've been buying properties all over California.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 02:31 | 5577451 COSMOS
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Drive across LOL.  I take it you have made the trip many times.  For your information there are many choke points on the few available roads and the surrounding countryside is quite an obstacle, especially in minus fifty below.

Be more concerned about Australia and NZ becoming overun by Chinese coming in on planes and boats, a much more comfortable way to travel.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:24 | 5577907 Prober
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Ahh, another grossly misinformed blatherer.

1. The temp is not always -50, ever hear of seasons ?

2. Snow makes the rough terrain MORE passable, not less.

3. I have been there, and although there are relatively few roads, the terrain is far more passable by military vehicles than an armchair pontificator, ie you, would know.

Reminder: Hanibal took war elephants across the Alps, in winter. But don't let facts confuse your blind ideology.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:43 | 5577404 edotabin
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Putin is a judo master. For many around here, that is enough for him to single-handedly defeat the invading Chinese. He will do so while shirtless and playing chess with his left hand.  Too bad people are still talking about Chuck Norris. Someone should start jokes in a similar vein for Putin.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:33 | 5577947 Counterpunch
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unsubtle, your trolling is.

 

4 years + huh?

 

 - you got greedy, son.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:45 | 5579350 edotabin
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I was just making fun with my overly exaggerated comment.

It is a well-known fact that TPTB have, many times, controlled both sides of a fabricated situation. As such, I am not willing to give anyone the benefit of the doubt without concrete and conclusive facts.  How many times can politicians promise "change" and other crap (including limited actions in the proper direction) only to do a 180 and let everyone down?

The precipitous drop in oil prices and opening up to Cuba so as to neutralize the relationship with Russia do indicate that there may be a true rift but one step at a time.  It will take much more than that for me to crown Putin the savior of humanity. This by the way, does not mean that he is or is not.

Meanwhile, "he is a judo master" and "looks good with his shirt off" are not trolling?

Lastly, over the past 100 years, would you have rather lived in the US or in Russia/Soviet Union?

 

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:21 | 5577810 Isotope
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Like some other things that have come to pass, Tom Clancy already wrote the novel - "The Bear And The Dragon." His last novel was about the situation in Ukraine - "Command Authority." Well, at least his name was on it.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:32 | 5577943 flapdoodle
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Poor Tom Clancy. Terminated because he could probably see what was really happening in Ukraine.

Anyone who believes his death was by natural causes hasn't been paying attention...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:48 | 5577852 Max Steel
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Why do americans believe in myths .Here is your myth buster . : http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2014/05/27/the-chinese-invasion...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:19 | 5577255 anachronism
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Repeat: ...the  development of China's multiple warhead technology was assisted by illegal transfers of technology from U.S. companies during the Clinton Administration...

China was made by the Manchurian President, Bill Clinton.

Nonetheless, 240 warheads -even twice that number- is not sufficient to "destroy" the United States. But any rational person would consider the potential damage of an all-out exchange of nuclear weapons to have disastrous consequences, even for the "winner". That is the whole point of M.A.D.

Now, since we have to drop the charade that there are only 2 nations with enough destructive power to make the Northern Hemisphere an undesirable place to live, perhaps we should regard the diffusion of nuclear weapons as a way to reduce the risk of nuclear war.

At present using current "bullet on bullet" techniques for destroying in-coming ballistic missiles, a reasonably effective way of destroying an attack of hundreds of warheads is not possible. When Ronald Reagan first envisioned a "Star Wars" defense system, it called for the use of exploding bombs in space that would destroy everything within a huge blast area. That would still be the only effective formula for stopping a nuclear-armed missile attack. Of course, everything means "everything", including satellites and spacecraft within hundreds, perhaps thousands of miles of the point of detonation. The blast cannot distinguish between "our" satellites and spacecraft from "theirs".

Recognizing that we are talking about Armageddon here, I would rather that we wipe out everything in space than risk missing even one warhead. The Manchurian President, however, disagreed. He mandated that we pursue the "bullet on bullet" technique, which is exponentially more expensive and difficult to develop and to deploy.

Ever since 9-11, our defense correspondents are focused on killing "towel heads" in far away lands. I haven't picked up much on the developments in ABM technology. But at one point -about 15 year ago- we were developing a "tri-pod" of ABM defenses: Airborne lasers aimed at or near the point of launch, land/sea-based missiles intended to shoot missiles during their most vulnerable phase (as they are gaining altitude), and land/sea-based missiles intended to engage incoming missiles in space. I don't know how far we have come with any of these approaches since then.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:26 | 5577269 lakecity55
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No worries.

Within 18 mos. Bath House will disarm all US nuclear weapons.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:53 | 5577773 css1971
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Virtually the whole of the US logistics chain is based on "Just in time" deliveries, there are no huge warehoused stores of goods because it's expensive and inefficient to do that. The only thing which makes this possible is a sophisticate computer network which manages the movement of the goods.

The EMPs from the first set of nuclear blasts which go off will destroy the computer networks which manage the delivery processes.

Without deliveries there will be no goods. No food. The only thing which will stop tens of millions of deaths within a month is that most Americans carry 6 months of food round with them at all times.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:44 | 5577304 peter4805
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If those trucks have Chinese drivers the US has nothing to worry about.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:44 | 5577307 AdvancingTime
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Below is a list of the worlds ten most crucial problems counted down from "least to most crucial", The world must begin to address these many problems with long term solutions. Most of these are issues that center on our sustainability.

Sadly, politicians do a damn poor job of dealing with such things leaving us without direction. As we look at the human condition we can let fate take us where it may choose or we can take control of our future by proper planning and by guiding it as best we can. I must admit it is sometimes hard to be optimistic!

http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-worlds-10-worst-problems.html

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:51 | 5577314 noben
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Although America carries a Big Stick, it's been a while since it Talked Softly.

This is a nice polite reminder from the Chinese, to encourage America (and its Regimes) to do so.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:53 | 5577774 Arnold
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It's been talking softly, even limply for quite a while.

How come we don't have one of those?

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/11/30/us/50-mx-missiles-are-to-be-shifted-to...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:57 | 5577334 Ginsengbull
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We would begin interdiction before they got it in position.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:54 | 5577779 Arnold
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Action upon erection?

There you go with the hookers and blow meme again.......

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:38 | 5577955 Atticus Finch
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Unfortunately, I think you just described what Russia will do before the US arms Ukraine at the direction legislation HR 758.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:04 | 5577350 Joe Tierney
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Yo, China.....

 

Is that a MISSILE in yo pocket or is you juss glad to see us?

 

Good morning.....

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:11 | 5577354 Aussiekiwi
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Sorry, did someone say the Americans are interested in arms reduction? all I have ever seen in my lifetime is a US that is prepared to take over countries that don't do as it says either directly with force, fomenting regime change or by crippling them economically until they surrender, can't see why countries would be concerned by Americas where number one and you better do as we say or we will destroy you attitude.

Russia in particular has just been thrown out of the club because it would not just lie down and let a US fomented regime change throw out the democratically elected government in the Ukraine go by and it is starting to see that there is no limits to what the US will do to punish Russia, you could see why Russia would realize that it needs to pick up its defensive nuclear game  against a hostile United states, expect a massive increase in not only long range missiles in the near future and due to Russia being out matched in Europe a build up of tactical battlefield nukes in Europe, oh, yeah, Europe your world just got a lot more dangerous, you can thank the US for that, arms reductions, what a joke.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 13:12 | 5578189 MassDecep
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and to know when you say "US" you are meaning the "bankers and the evil that runs them". Ordinary US citizens are just brainwashed mush for the most part.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:14 | 5577365 Ginsengbull
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It's covered in paper, just like the dragons they brought out to scare the Japaneese away in WW2.

 

Didn't work then.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:50 | 5577414 yrbmegr
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The U.S. invented them, and the U.S. invented the countermeasure for them.  Fifty years ago.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:37 | 5577752 css1971
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Ah, no.

Germany invented them.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:57 | 5577782 Arnold
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ah........Bob Goddard.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:41 | 5577958 flapdoodle
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The Chiese invented rockets.

Konstantin Tsiolkovsky developed the ideas on which modern rocketry is based...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 02:32 | 5577450 erk
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China need a good supply of nuclear ICBMs so the west stop playing cold war with Russia when they realize there are more players on the field.

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:53 | 5577860 Max Steel
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Russians will love to arm them 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 03:23 | 5577496 robnume
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Jesus h Christ, did this "analyst" figure this out all by himself? What a bunch of idiotic tools reside inside the beltway!

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 04:05 | 5577515 Alternative
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With Americans around, who can feel safe?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 12:22 | 5578059 Boubou
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US government  is like their police force, no one is safe whoever they are and no one's life is important. You have to creep around and hope not to be noticed saying yes sir, no sir and humiliating yourself on demand.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 04:09 | 5577516 Joe A
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How dare they!!1!!?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 04:16 | 5577518 robertocarlos
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As long as all the multiple warheads land on DC, I don't really care.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 08:26 | 5577694 HowdyDoody
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plus the Pentagon, Tel Aviv, London and New York.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:43 | 5577966 flapdoodle
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Please, don't forget Hollywood.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 06:05 | 5577585 Flybyknight
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The three "superpowers" USA, China and Russia  just need to take a chill pill and realistically assess the consequences of a nuclear war. This applies particularly to the USA which of late seems to think it has a god given right to rule the world. My feeling is that Russia and China are thinking defensively with their Nuclear  weapon development. Clinton may be an arsehole but talking between these major players is always preferable to actual conflict. Unfortunately Obama seems to head a regime that behaves like a spoilt brat who will throw all its toys out of the cot if it doesn't get its way.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 12:06 | 5578013 Boubou
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This brinkmanship thing has been going a long time. I was 30 something during the Cuban misslle crisis. I was so convinced they might blow up the planet ,I though 'fuck it'  - Idumped my career , bought a boat and we began a trip round the world starting from  Uk -   take a look while it was still there.  Let them do it without me.

At least the USSR was a little closer to a proper adversary than anyhting around now althugh we now know much of their capability was exaggerated by intelligence.

It will never change  - only you can decide if you personally suffer from it or not. 

In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 06:37 | 5577601 reader2010
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China is showing the world she won't roll over on demand. Fuck your NWO. 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 06:41 | 5577606 vyeung
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Lets get something straight, when others have weapons as a defensive strategy they are always offensive to the Zionist Vassal state the US. When the US has it, its fine. Thats utter BS.

When was the last frigging time China bomb the shit out of a nation? When did they invade nations under false claims?

China, BRICS and associates want business, not war! ICBM is old school and we all know they can take them out with their satellite weapons so, give up the cry wolf BS!

Screw the military industrial complex. America has been nothing but held hostage by them for over 100 years!

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:59 | 5577787 headhunt
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The only time any nation attacks, for whatever reason, is when they believe they can win.

China has not been capable of attacking any nation for centuries, but they are working hard to change that.

Or.... we could put our head in the sand.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 07:12 | 5577621 CHX
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"WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones" - Albert Einstein.

 

Unfortunately, this sounds ever more reasonable to me, as I trust our "leaders" to make it so.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 08:02 | 5577669 ArmyofOne
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Arleigh Burke Class (Aegis) Destroyer

 

 

Lockheed Martin is developing the Aegis ballistic missile defence (BMD) capability for the Aegis combat system to engage ballistic missiles with the SM-3 missile. 15 Arleigh Burke destroyers have been fitted with the Aegis BMD system, which provides the capability for long-range surveillance, tracking and engagement of short and medium-range ballistic missiles.

"The destroyers are powered by four GE LM 2500 gas turbines."

The system received US Navy certification for full deployment in September 2006. Work was completed on the 15 destroyers at the end of 2008 and the vessels, with three Ticonderoga cruisers, form the Aegis BMD fleet. On 30 July 2009 the Aegis BMD system was successfully tested by the US Navy on the USS Hopper (DDG 70).

Aegis BMD is the main sea-based component of the US ballistic missile defence system.

The weapons control systems include a SWG-1A for Harpoon, SWG-3 forTomahawk, mk99 mod 3 missile fire control system, GWS34 mod 0 gun fire control system and mk116 mod 7 fire control system for anti-submarine systems.

 

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/burke/

 

China's a little behind the curve here but let them spend the money on white elephants. 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:27 | 5577819 IridiumRebel
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-01/raytheon-sm-3-missile-fails-to-...

22 outta 27 ain't bad.....still doesn't save Kansas City, Memphis, Denver, Seattle or  Atlanta.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:26 | 5577869 Max Steel
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 AEGIS BUSTED . Let alone russian plane busting aegis enabled uss donald cook 

 http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/11/17/defeating-aegis-the-us-naval-boo...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:22 | 5577924 Atticus Finch
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Read the story about how a single Russian fighter jammed the electronics on the USS Donald armed with an AEGIS system in the Black Sea.

http://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2014/11/russian-fighter-blinds-us-naval-ship...

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 12:03 | 5578005 jerry_theking_lawler
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http://www.usni.org/news-and-features/chinese-kill-weapon

 

Think again....If it can kill a carrier, it can certainly kill any ship in the aresenal.....these assets are nearly useless now...why we continue to build them baffles me.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 13:25 | 5578215 bid the soldier...
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I guess you missed this:

The USS Donald Cook (DDG-75) is a 4th generation guided missile destroyer whose key weapons areTomahawk cruise missiles with a range of up to 2,500 kilometers, and capable of carrying nuclear explosives....

 


As the Russian jet approached the US vessel, the electronic device disabled all radars, control circuits, systems, information transmission, etc. on board the US destroyer. In other words, the all-powerful Aegissystem, now hooked up - or about to be - with the defense systems installed on NATO’s most modern ships was shut down, as turning off the TV set with the remote control.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html                                                   Sill waiting for a denial from the Pentagon, who aren't shy about denying things happened.
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