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Defiant North Korea Says Can Prove It Is Not Behind Hack "Without Resorting To Torture Like The CIA"

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Just hours after the FBI announced that, with absolute certainty, it had determined that North Korea was behind the Sony hack, a "theory" that has become the butt of global jokes, we learned, in a far less prominent release, that according to an internal inquiry, FBI evidence if "often mishandled." According to the NYT, "F.B.I. agents in every region of the country have mishandled, mislabeled and lost evidence, according to a highly critical internal investigation that discovered errors with nearly half the pieces of evidence it reviewed.

The evidence collection and retention system is the backbone of the F.B.I.’s investigative process, and the report said it is beset by problems.

It gets better: according to the report, the F.B.I. was storing more weapons, less money and valuables, and two tons more drugs than its records had indicated. Almost as if the FBI was siphoning off cash, while hoarding guns and blow.

The report’s findings, based on a review of more than 41,000 pieces of evidence in F.B.I. offices around the country, could have consequences for criminal investigations and prosecutions. Lawyers can use even minor record-keeping discrepancies to get evidence thrown out of court, and the F.B.I. was alerting prosecutors around the country on Friday that they may need to disclose the errors to defendants.

 

A majority of the errors identified were due in large part to human error, attributable to a lack of training and program management oversight,” auditors wrote in the report, which was obtained by The New York Times.

 

F.B.I. officials on Friday said that they decided on their own to conduct the review after discovering during an internal audit that there might be issues with the record keeping for evidence.

In other words, there was human error, as well as willful "record keeping" lies.

But that's ok, because the FBI has released a YouTube clip proving that North Korea hacked the US subsidiary of a Japanese company in a matter that has escalated to a national security issue. Right? Because the US had doctored photos of Iraq WMDs, and a doctored YouTube clip of Syrians "dead" after an Assad chemical attack.

Well, maybe not. Which perhaps explains why a defiant North Korea not only refuses to take responsibility for the infamous Sony "hack", something which makes little sense for the regime that would love to take full credit for crippling of the evil Imperialist pigs' Christmas movie schedule, but that, as Reuters reports, it wants a joint probe investigation into the incident with the United States. 

An unnamed spokesman of the North's foreign ministry said there would be "grave consequences" if Washington refused to agree to the joint probe and continued to accuse Pyongyang, the official KCNA news agency reported on Saturday.

In fact, earlier today, North Korea warned of “serious consequences” if the United States retaliates against it.

As a reminder, on Friday, President Barack Obama blamed North Korea for the devastating cyberattack, which led to the Hollywood studio cancelling "The Interview", a comedy on the fictional assassination of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

But the epic punchline, is that even a tiny backwater, dictatorship can now make fun of US "moral high ground" courtesy of the recent CIA torture disclosure. “We have a way to prove that we have nothing to do with the case without resorting to torture, as what the C.I.A. does,the statement said.

We can't wait to see it. We also can't wait to see America's own proof for what is shaping up to be yet another false flag intervention. Alas, we may be waiting for a long time.

While some computer experts still express doubts whether the North was actually behind the attack, American officials said it was similar to what was believed to be a North Korean cyberattack last year on South Korean banks and broadcasters. One key similarity was the fact that the hackers erased data from the computers, something many cyberthieves do not do.

 

Some American officials have said that North Korea appears to have embraced cyberterrorism as its new weapon of choice for making political points, and is possibly trying to extort new concessions out of the United States and its allies. While North Korea is an impoverished nation with so little Internet usage that it is essentially a black hole in cyberspace, the attacks showed a high level of sophistication and hacking expertise.

 

The hackers did considerable commercial damage to Sony Pictures, posting embarrassing emails, detailed breakdowns of executive salaries, digital copies of unreleased movies and even the unpublished script for an upcoming James Bond movie.

 

Sony said the threats against theaters left it no choice but to cancel the Dec. 25 release of “The Interview,” in which Seth Rogen and James Franco play television journalists who get a scoop interview with Mr. Kim, and then find themselves recruited by the C.I.A. to kill him.

 

On Friday, Mr. Obama faulted Sony’s decision to withhold the movie, saying that it created a precedent of studios giving into intimidation.

Yes, the "terrorists won", which is precisely the cover that the US needed to maintain its imploding "Pax American" status quo. Oh, and whatever happened to all that media coverage of US "enhanced interrogation techniques" anyway?

 

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Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:05 | 5575378 MisterX
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definitive proof of propaganda:

http://www.philiacband.com/propaganda.html

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:20 | 5575402 Liberal
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As a staunch liberal, I find it ridiculous that North Korea would dare deny this. I mean, our government said it and Rachel Maddow reported it. What more proof do these yellow bastards need to prove that they're the ones who hacked Sony?

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:25 | 5575413 y3maxx
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...USSA, imploding Fascist State

....USA, Constitutional Republic.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:25 | 5575424 BobPaulson
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Postmodern trap. 

Never wrestle with a pig in the mud. You will both get filthy and the pig will like it.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:30 | 5575440 max2205
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Our Govt is full of BS and lying spin doctors

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:39 | 5575465 Divided States ...
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The usa blames putin, not zio bitch nuland for the ukraine mess, now they blame fatty boy kim jong un for a Jewish produced movies cancellation...what a joke

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:47 | 5575475 BaBaBouy
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Hmmmmm @ Sony ... Who To Believe, Oabma Or KimJung ???
Not So Easy, Is It...

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:48 | 5575488 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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I asked before but no one answered...

One nation kills babies, tortures people, beats its citizens to death for breaking unjust law, and boasts about killing the leaders of other countries. The other nation is???

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:52 | 5575496 Winston Churchill
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Yes.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:59 | 5575509 CH1
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Fuck the FBI!

Double-fuck the CIA!

And, yeah, fuck the little monster too.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:24 | 5575691 palmereldritch
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Same assholes.  Different haircuts.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 19:22 | 5576325 Keyser
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Ouch, that one is going to leave a mark... Kim tells a funny and pokes the great evil at the same time... Well done... 

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 20:04 | 5576460 James_Cole
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Both the most entertaining and least depressing story of the year. 

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 21:38 | 5576768 SoilMyselfRotten
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Oh, snap!

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 22:29 | 5576917 MontgomeryScott
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I'd like to know who at 'SONY' bankrolled this movie in the first place. The screen depiction of the assasination of ANY head-of-state when REAL and LIVING without using the medium af 'FARCE' is pretty fucking sick, even for the Zionists in Hollywood.

The Zuckerberg brothers used a farcical depiction of the death of Saddam Hussein in 'Hot Shots', where he is seen sipping a Pina Colada by a pool, and one of the ''Merkuh's Finest' drops a bomb in his lap. It was in a totally different light than the slo-mo explosion of the helicopter carrying the dictator of N.K. (and the slo-mo view of the explosion burning him alive). Fucking SICK.

It reminds me of the bullshit story of how the riots started in Bengazi, due to a bullshit story about a 'Youtube video' (a cover for the murder of the ambassador Stevens and three of his people who were about to blow the whistle on the shitstorm overthrow of the Lybian government and the transportation of munitions to the CIA-funded operation in Syria to overthrow THAT nation via the Israeli State Intelligence Service <NO SARC> and the CIA and MI5 via the conduit in Turkey).

The bullshit 'hacking' story is, of course, BULLSHIT. The CONUS 'Fucking Bullshitters International' <SARC> are dependent on funding from (who is it, again?) um, the US Treasury. After Waco and Ruby Ridge, they have been OWNED by this funding. Of course, the U.S. Treasury is fucking BROKE, and now 18 TRILLION CONUS FEDS in the HOLE, so THEY are dependent on (who is it, again?)...

50 or 100 MILLION fedscrips to 'make a movie' is now considered 'chump change'. WHERE does the FUNDING of this amount actually COME FROM, in Hollywood? A broke and irradiated Japanese manufacturer of electronics, perhaps? What is this shit; 'SANSUI INTERNATIONAL PICTURES'?

I've heard of the 'Yazuka'. I guess they're a Japanese mob; much like the 'Mafia'. OR the FBI, or like Kim Jong Un, or like the Washington D.C. beltway, or like...

If you listen to fools, the MOB RULES.

(Oh, the FBI said that Kim Jong Un hack-attacked SONY Pictures, and so the SOPA and PIPA legislation MUST go forth; duly introduced by CONGRESS. I, Barry Soetoro, will make it so by the POWERS vested in me via the emergency acts already incorporated in the Emergency Act of 1933; as well as the passage of USAPATRIOT.)

My 'teleprompter' told me to link this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO6uBQJ35N0

Ozzie was just a kid, back then.

The introduction is entitled 'E5150'. It's a derivative of old cop slang of a code that signified that the 'subject' respondent on the call had 'mental issues' but was most likely unarmed (in the former United States). 'One Adam 12, One Adam 12, see the man on the corner of Haight and Asbury causing a mental disturbance by holding a sign.' One Adam 12 would respond, and reply that the man was not a danger, but was probably mentally unstable, by calling in 'code 5150', which indicated that mental health 'profesionals' from any number of front-companies of the CIA Black Ops-funded 'hospitals' were needed, to respond and take charge of the 'subject'. Two hours later, Reed and Malloy, down at the donut shop, would discuss the issue of 'the subject', and congratulate themselves for being so 'level-headed' for keeping 'society' in 'control' once again, as they drank copious amounts of coffee and ate jellied donuts. Meanwhile, the movie 'Enemy Of The State' would be experienced in real life by millions of people (as characterized in the persona played by Mel Gibson in some OTHER movie that also starred Julia Roberts. Mel's character was actually CAUGHT, unlike Denzel Washington's character in the former movie). Reed and Malloy, patting each other on the back, would check the shotgun in the trunk of their 'squad-car' (just in case), and Malloy would give Reed the 'riot act' about the jelly stain on his uniform...

 

 

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:58 | 5575510 TheGreatRecovery
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43

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:30 | 5575587 Took Red Pill
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I said this yesterday ;

ri, 12/19/2014 - 12:57 | 5573208Took Red Pill Vote up!

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I'm thinking this is a false flag event. US hacks Sony, blames North Korea.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:28 | 5575694 PT
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If the NorKs are capable of hacking anything and the US / Japan / anywhere else in the western world are unable to defend themselves then I blame the victim for being so stupid.  What are the Norks learning that the rest of the world is not?  Do we have to go to North Korea to get a decent computer education???  For the average yob who doesn't care about how his computer works, he might not get what I'm saying.  But any old-time computer programmers should know exactly what I'm saying.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 15:25 | 5575753 Realname
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This isnt the first hack at Sony. Rogen and Franco  arent even the first two hacks at Sony.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 22:46 | 5576970 MontgomeryScott
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AT LAST!

The 'ANSWER'!

Shit...

I was told it was 'forty-two'. My personal edition of the Guide didn't include the addition of 'one'.

Well, 43 IS a 'prime number', but '42' isn't, I suppose. What a bother...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQWdMftKT3Q

Bald-headed mother-fuckers...

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:51 | 5577978 Cheduba
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The hackers deleted data?  That proves it was North Korea because everyone knows other hackers only alter or add data, never removing it.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:32 | 5575445 Skateboarder
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Damnit, they're milking this back'n'forth too long in this movie. I'm getting bored and my attention has long wandered. What's the catch phrase for this shit? No catch phrase, no attention. Capisce?

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:45 | 5575485 Son of Loki
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Oh boy … those NK’s rally know how to hit below the belt. Bunch of mud-slingers. Just because Bush and nobel peace prize winner, Barry, tortured some folks, they don’t have to keep re-hashing old stuff. Lets let bygones be bygones.

 

What do ya say ?

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:08 | 5575528 Skateboarder
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Indeed. I like re-runs as much as every other freedum enthusiast, but putting re-ran material in new episodes? Tsk tsk, movie producers.

If you all wanted is Internet censorship, all ya had to do was ask nicely, or program it into people in a polite fashion. Sheesh, they're so rude nowadays.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:11 | 5575629 mjcOH1
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"Oh boy … those NK’s rally know how to hit below the belt. Bunch of mud-slingers. Just because Bush and nobel peace prize winner, Barry, tortured some folks, they don’t have to keep re-hashing old stuff. Lets let bygones be bygones."

 

Oh....I'm thinking they would have been more efficient about the 'enemy of the state"/torture thing than we were.

Take KSM.......   Our information said he was 'the guy'.   His operatives said he was 'the guy'.   Hell.....he said he was 'the guy'.   Repeatedly.

Mistakes were made.   He was captured.   Questions were politely asked, and not so politely answered.   Lives were at stake.   The crazy fuckers had knocked down 2 buildings and killed 3000 people.

There was one path - involving an iron pipe, a wood chipper, a tape recorder, and whatever the crazy fucker felt like tossing out there for posterity.   No further concerns about what to do with him.   I would advocate that path.

Then there was the path GWB took - and some water was poured on his face.   More than once even.

So .... yeah.   Same thing.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 15:13 | 5575779 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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"Our torture is better than their torture."

Is that the main thrust of your barely coherent argument?

Except you don't really know ALL that went on / goes on because most of it is still classified (by the CIA's own admission) and probably always will be.

So yeah, people like you will never have a line, but you'll always have an excuse as to why you're not a pussy for failing to stand up to the most powerful force of evil on planet Earth.

"Our torture is better than their torture."

Fucking jackass.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 15:22 | 5575798 mjcOH1
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"So yeah, people like you will never have a line, but you'll always have an excuse as to why you're not a pussy for failing to stand up to the most powerful force of evil on planet Earth.

"Our torture is better than their torture."

 

Hopefully, some day,  you will get the opportunity to visit the Middle East, meat the entitled/tolerant kidnapper of your dreams, and have your head lifted off on a Youtube video for the amusement of the rest of us.

I'd pay good money to see that.   They're entitled.   And you're a waste of air.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 15:45 | 5575850 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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That's right you man-child jackass, make it about something else other than your own moral hypocrisy.

At least admit you have no morality and torture is fine with you on that basis. I would respect that a little more.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 15:51 | 5575869 mjcOH1
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"At least admit you have no morality and torture is fine with you on that basis. I would respect that a little more"

Hey..... if somebody steps up, shows you what torture is, and does humanity a favor - I'm good with that.   I will not question the methods, nor where the chips get buried.

Satisfied?

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 15:57 | 5575884 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Yeah, I'm satisfied. Now we know where you really stand.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 16:35 | 5575954 palmereldritch
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 "What's the catch phrase for this shit? No catch phrase, no attention."

The Interview: Get with the programming.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:00 | 5575512 Payne
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Friday, December 19, 2014
Jim Rickards - In the Year 2024 As I awoke this morning, Sunday, Oct. 13, 2024, from restless dreams, I found the insect-sized sensor implanted in my arm was already awake. We call it a “bug.” U.S. citizenshave been required to have them since 2022 to access government health care.

The bug knew from its biometric monitoring of my brain wave frequencies and rapid eye movement that I would awake momentarily. It was already at work launching systems, including the coffee maker. I could smell the coffee brewing in the kitchen. The information screens on the inside of my panopticon goggles were already flashing before my eyes.

Images of world leaders were on the screen. They were issuing proclamations about the fine health of their economies and the advent of world peace. Citizens, they explained, needed to work in accordance with the New World Order Growth Plan to maximize wealth for all. I knew this was propaganda, but I couldn’t ignore it. Removing yourpanopticon goggles is viewed with suspicion by the neighborhood watch committees. Your “bug” controls all the channels.

I’m mostly interested in economics and finance, as I have been for decades. I’ve told the central authorities that I’m an economic historian, so they’ve given me access to archives and information denied to most citizens in the name of national economic security.

My work now is only historical, because markets were abolished after the Panic of 2018. That was not the original intent of the authorities. They meant to close markets “temporarily” to stop the panic, but once the markets were shut, there was no way to reopen them without the panic starting again.
My work now is only historical, because markets were abolished after the Panic of 2018.

Today, trust in markets is completely gone. All investors want is their money back. Authorities started printing money after the Panic of 2008, but that solution stopped working by 2018. Probably because so much had been printed in 2017 under QE7. When the panic hit, money was viewed as worthless. So markets were simply closed.

Between 2018–20, the Group of 20 major powers, the G-20, abolished all currencies except for the dollar, the euro and the ruasia. The dollar became the local currency in North and South America. Europe, Africa and Australia used the euro. The ruasia was the only new currency — a combination of the old Russian ruble, Chinese yuan and Japanese yen — and was adopted as the local currency in Asia.

There is also new world money called special drawing rights, or SDRs for short. They’re used only for settlements between countries, however. Everyday citizens use the dollar, euro or ruasia for daily transactions. The SDR is also used to set energy prices and as a benchmark for the value of the three local currencies. The World Central Bank, formerly the IMF, administers the SDR system under the direction of the G-20. As a result of the fixed exchange rates, there’s no currency trading.

All of the gold in the world was confiscated in 2020 and placed in a nuclear bomb-proof vault dug into the Swiss Alps. The mountain vault had been vacated by the Swiss army and made available to the World Central Bank for this purpose. All G-20 nations contributed their national gold to the vault. All private gold was forcibly confiscated and added to the Swiss vault as well. All gold mining had been nationalized and suspended on environmental grounds.

The purpose of the Swiss vault was not to have gold backing for currencies, but rather to remove gold from the financial system entirely so it could never be used as money again. Thus, gold trading ceased because its production, use and possession were banned. By these means, the G-20 and the World Central Bank control the only forms of money.

Some lucky ones had purchased gold in 2014 and sold it when it reached $40,000 per ounce in 2019. By then, inflation was out of control and the power elites knew that all confidence in paper currencies had been lost. The only way to re-establish control of money was to confiscate gold. But those who sold near the top were able to purchase land or art, which the authorities did not confiscate.

Those who never owned gold in the first place saw their savings, retirement incomes, pensions and insurance policies turn to dust once the hyperinflation began. Now it seems so obvious. The only way to preserve wealth through the Panic of 2018 was to have gold, land and fine art. But investors not only needed to have the foresight to buy it… they also had to be nimble enough to sell the gold before the confiscation in 2020, and then buy more land and art and hang onto it. For that reason, many lost everything.

Land and personal property were not confiscated, because much of it was needed for living arrangements and agriculture. Personal property was too difficult to confiscate and of little use to the state. Fine art was lumped in with cheap art and mundane personal property and ignored.

Stock and bond trading were halted when the markets closed. During the panic selling after the crash of 2018, stocks were wiped out. Too, the value of all bonds were wipedout in the hyperinflation of 2019. Governments closed stock and bond markets, nationalized all corporations and declared a moratorium on all debts. World leaders initially explained it as an effort to “buy time” to come up with a plan to unfreeze the markets, but over time, they realized that trust and confidence had been permanently destroyed, and there was no point in trying.

Wiped-out savers broke out in money riots soon after but were quickly suppressed by militarized police who used drones, night vision technology, body armor and electronic surveillance. Highway tollbooth digital scanners were used to spot and interdict those who tried to flee by car. By 2017, the U.S. government required sensors on all cars. It was all too easy for officials to turn off the engines of those who were government targets, spot their locations and arrest them on the side of the road.

In compensation for citizens’ wealth destroyed by inflation and confiscation, governments distributed digital Social Units called Social Shares and Social Donations. These were based on a person’s previous wealth. Americans below a certain level of wealth got Social Shares that entitled them to a guaranteed income.

Those above a certain level of wealth got Social Donation units that required them to give their wealth to the state. Over time, the result was a redistribution of wealth so that everyone had about the same net worth and the same standard of living. The French economist Thomas Piketty was the principal consultant to the G-20 and World Central Bank on this project.

By 2017, the U.S. government required sensors on all cars.

To facilitate the gradual freezing of markets, confiscation of wealth and creation of Social Units, world governments coordinated the elimination of cash in 2016. The “cashless society” was sold to citizens as a convenience. No more dirty, grubby coins and bills to carry around!

Instead, you could pay with smart cards and mobile phones and could transfer funds online. Only when the elimination of cash was complete did citizens realize that digital money meant total control by government. This made it easy to adopt former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers’ idea of negative interest rates. Governments simply deducted amounts from its citizens’ bank accounts every month. Without cash, there was no way to prevent the digital deductions.

The government could also monitor all of your transactions and digitally freeze your account if you disagreed with their tax or monetary policy. In fact, a new category of hate crime for “thoughts against monetary policy” was enacted by executive order. The penalty was digital elimination of the wealth of those guilty of dissent.

The entire process unfolded in small stages so that investors and citizens barely noticed before it was too late. Gold had been the best way to preserve wealth from 2014–18, but in the end, it was confiscated because the power elites knew it could not be allowed. First, they eliminated cash in 2016. Then they eliminated diverse currencies and stocks in 2018. Finally came the hyperinflation of 2019, which wiped out most wealth, followed by gold confiscation and the digital socialism of 2020.

By last year, 2023, free markets, private property and entrepreneurship were things of the past. All that remains of wealth is land, fine art and some (illegal) gold. The only other valuable assets are individual talents, provided you can deploy them outside the system of state-approved jobs.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:40 | 5575600 gdogus erectus
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Very nice. I reject that vision however, but am too lazy to write out how I think it will go down once the sheeple are forced to do something they don't like. Non-compliance of the masses combined with our building resistance movements will be more than enough to make this whole thing move a different direction than planned. IMNSHO

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:01 | 5577343 IronForge
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NOTE TO COLLECTIVE INTELLIGENCE MATRIX:

SEND TERMINATOR BACK IN TIME CONSTRUCT TERMINATOR CYBER ARMY.
USE ARMY TO -

  • ARREST ALL WHO PLAN TO ENGAGE IN GOLD CONSFICATION
  • ARREST FEDERAL RESERVE BANKERS
  • ALLY WITH HUMAN RESISTANCE WORLDWIDE

</sarc>

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 15:16 | 5575788 Bay Area Guy
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BobPaulson:

Which is the pig though, the US or North Korea?

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:25 | 5575425 Gazooks
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just like it never was

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:18 | 5575679 kchrisc
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" imploding Fascist State"

A bit of a laughingstock as well.

The banksters need to repay us.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:28 | 5575699 A Nanny Moose
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USA begat the USSA.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:27 | 5575416 Latina Lover
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According to suspect polls, most Americans love to hurt others if it supposedly protects us against terrorism. I suspect that when one is water-boarded or has hummus shoved up their rears, they will say anything, even if the information is bad.  Torture is used primarily as a terror weapon, to frighten others into compliance.

Just wait until the police state starts turning their weapons on the citizenry......oh wait...something about Ferguson comes to mind.

 

 

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/new-poll-finds-maj...

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 15:06 | 5575769 Realname
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I doubt the bathhouser in chief thinks having anything shoved up his, or others', asses is considered torture.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:23 | 5575418 KnuckleDragger-X
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It's not a matter of proof, it's a matter of politics. The Norks are highly insular and just don't care, this is basically a pro forma denial.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:24 | 5575423 wisefool
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Maybe they need they also need NeoCon networks like Foxnews to say they did it. O'reilly and Dennis Miller can start agreeing about more genocide targets, That will make them yellers remember how they used BOTH PDP-11s that Kim plays pong on to hack a multi-billion dollar US technology company.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:31 | 5575444 suteibu
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I'm conflicted as well.  You see, FOX is also saying it was the Norks.  Liberals know FOX always lies.  Therefore it can not be the Norks.  But Obama says it is true.

So, are they both lying or telling the truth? 

This is sure to fuck up a lot of liberal minds...even more than they are already fucked up.

As for me, I operate on the premise that if someone lies to me once, anything else that comes from their pie holes is also a lie.  In that case, both Obama and FOX are liars.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:41 | 5575470 i_call_you_my_base
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MSM = CIA. It's that simple.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:54 | 5575497 BurningFuld
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If North Korea really wanted to fuck with the US Kim Jong Un would hold a press conference and say North Korea has absolutely no problem with your movie...in fact we are begging you to release that crappy piece of shit just as planned.  The movie will be a bigger bomb than anything we could muster.

 

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 16:15 | 5575920 wisefool
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It is the smart move. I think hackers would call this a double reverse honey pot. It would expose alll the westerners, even those who hate Obama, who would become Irate if the fictional noose was on the other leader.

It really is supposedly a terrible movie. Even for the target audience of people stoned out of their minds.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:44 | 5575622 Squid Viscous
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Fox was also trying to implicate Russia, China, and of course Iran for aiding NK in the hacking, hilarious but i'm sure 98% of their viewers bought in, now down the memory hole  

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:03 | 5575647 HowdyDoody
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In Schroedinger politics, something can be true and false at the same time.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:09 | 5575381 Usurious
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How embarrassing for we as Americans

We must be near some kind of END when shit like this happens........

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:09 | 5575383 translator zero
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The New Normal: North Korea takes the moral high ground. 

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:28 | 5575431 BobPaulson
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Not quite the high ground, but as I mentioned above, now the Axis of Good is on the same slippery slope as the most hateful and malicious animals on earth. Not an easy place from which to extract one's self since now not a sole on earth believes a goddam word the US sockpuppet politicians say.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:37 | 5575461 chunga
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LOL!

"Axis of Good"...what other turd countries are in the Axis of Good?

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:40 | 5575468 Skateboarder
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Hopeistan and Changeistan.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:15 | 5575511 Renfield
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<<"Axis of Good"...what other turd countries are in the Axis of Good?>>

The Goodies:

1) U!S!A! (squishes together Canada and Mexico into one fake "country" because NAFTA)

2) UK (squishes together a few real countries into one fake "country", includes Australia because queen) and

3) EU (squishes together many real countries into one fake "country" because currency).

The unholy trinity of the New World Odour.

On the Goodies list, Canada and Mexico and Australia only show up as footnotes, as they are just minor appendages. Canada & Mexico are appendage to US since they're under NAFTA. Australia appendage to UK since they're "subjects" of some ugly cunt on a throne in Westminster. Japan don't count here since it's already dead.

But, like the countries within EU and UK, nobody really notices them anyway so it's fine. National populations are thankful to serve as the unsung dogsbodies of the NWO.

Baddies list keeps growing and changing if you try to keep track of countries, so here's the short stable version. Baddies:

1) Russia

2) terrists (any/all/some in ME at various times, fluid list, watch MSM for details)

3) "asian" (any/all/some except the (most favoured) Creditor Who Shall Not Be Named, fluid list, watch MSM for details)

Africa (its various countries) don't count here since it's already dead.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:17 | 5575553 chunga
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No "Axis of Good"...is complete without....Israel!

Blech!

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:26 | 5575578 Renfield
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heh - what? No, no, Israel is just a itty-bitty wee country alllll by itself out there in the middle east, surrounded by terrists. They're a victim! Terrists hate them for no other reason than existing!

But OK-fine, if tinfoil conspiracists like you insist, then I guess we can include it with Canada & Mexico as a protectorate of the mighty U!S!A!

But we all know they have very little power all by themselves out there and that's why the Goodies are here to help. Israel is living proof that God is on our side. Because Holocaust.

Surely a little country like Israel, alllll the way over there across the ocean, can't be mentioned on the Goodies list! You start talking like that, sheep might think something's up.

It's important to keep these things simple so MSM viewers understand. Three. It's a nice easy number to remember, isn't it?

;-)

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:19 | 5575560 oudinot
oudinot's picture

The US could never annex Canada.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:30 | 5575585 Renfield
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Well, Quebec might be a bit of a stumbling block. Tend to get stubborn without French as an official language. Maybe Congress has room for the Bloc Quebecois?

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 17:17 | 5576019 Miss Expectations
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Quebec was a stumbling block way back in 1775 when Benedict Arnold gave it a go.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:29 | 5575707 A Nanny Moose
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What time is it? Cuba is on the Good list for the moment.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:39 | 5575611 Deathstar
Deathstar's picture

More aptly known as the

"Axis of Weasels"

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:29 | 5575435 Winston Churchill
Winston Churchill's picture

The Farce is strong in this one.

Been one of those weeks. Not as funny as finding out one of my billionaire clients is

addicted to coupon cutting, but close.That true, by the way.I'm sure the chauffeur gets to redeem

them.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:35 | 5575453 i_call_you_my_base
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Better than crack, I guess.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:55 | 5575502 BurningFuld
BurningFuld's picture

How do you know they are not discount coupons for crack? Dealers have to differentiate themselves somehow ya know.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:02 | 5575513 CH1
CH1's picture

out one of my billionaire clients is addicted to coupon cutting

Yup, I knew one of those too.

A special kind of neurosis.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:35 | 5575718 lovemesomeZH
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http://www.pcworld.com/article/2861492/think-north-korea-hacked-sony-thi...

  • Here’s a key paragraph from a message sent on Nov. 30

 

  • “Sony and Sony Pictures have made terrible racial discrimination and human rights violation, indiscriminate tyranny and restructuring in recent years. It has brought damage to a lot of people, some of whom are among us. Nowadays Sony Pictures is about to prey on the weak with a plan of another indiscriminate restructuring for their own benefits. This became a decisive motive of our action. We required Sony Pictures to stop this and pay proper monetary compensation to the victims.”
  • The movie wasn’t mentioned until a message on Dec. 8,
Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:11 | 5575387 Catullus
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What's funny about Feinstein releasing this torture intelligence that was the sole source of leading us into a disastrous war is it was a gigantic CYA move on the senate intelligence committee. Like dick Cheney lies them into war using like three people they water board for years as "evidence" the Iraqis were involved in 9/11. Here's the one committee that actually is charged with investigating intelligence sources and they blew it.

Now we're supposed to believe they're providing some sort of oversight of the NSA.

Out of control.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:26 | 5575427 sun tzu
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Finkstein got her panties in a wad after she found out the NSA and CIA were spying on Congress. She didn't have a problem when they were spying on us lowly peons.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:35 | 5575449 Oldwood
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This is maddening...We can all easily believe that the CIA, as with virtually ALL government agencies, is at best fucked up and at worse fucking evil, but I always ask the same question....why now?

Why did the democrats release this highly derogatory expose NOW. One that puts America in an absolutely terrible light and regardless of how much is proven or not, we all will wear it.

Regardless of our failures as a country or even the failures of our government, all of this is being used to tear us down.

All of this is politics and few on this site are apolitical, regardless of their "red and blue are the same" themes.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:58 | 5575759 Catullus
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Because there are people inside the government who are not on the same page as the rest of the small cadre of maniacs flushing them down with the rest of the turds.

Even within the CIA, they disagreed with what was going on. And that's probably a lot of what the other 35,000 pages of the report would reveal. That there were people along the way that said "this is insane, we're getting nothing that we don't already know or we know is false".

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:36 | 5575460 disabledvet
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The CIA was spying on the oversight committee.  That's the only reason we know anything about "rectal feeding" and the American Psycho Association.

 

If they spy on the US Senate....um, forget that one.  Let's just say this is a slam dunk politically.  Clearly the CIA wants more revealed as they keep fighting this.  

The stories out of the trial up in Boston are pretty ugly.

 

The riots don't seem like an accident....nor the response.

 

What did that dude mean who said droning people is a lot worse?  Not that I expect the AG to investigate.  "We mishandled some evidence.  You are FREE Mr torture guy!"

 

I just don't understand.  What exactly is NOT being said here?  I mean seriously...this ain't Iran/Contra.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:53 | 5575495 SickDollar
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Dude are you just waking up, or are you realizing how deep the rabbit hole goes ?

 

it's a big club and you ain't in it BITCHEZ

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 15:06 | 5575767 Catullus
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Names haven't been named.

Anyone who saw the abu ghraib photos isn't surprised here.

But there's 35,000 more pages to go. What was released was an excutive summary.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:11 | 5575388 Earl Slaughter-...
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Outch.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:11 | 5575391 valley chick
valley chick's picture

Time to dial up another distraction and sweep this under the rug.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:12 | 5575393 Meat Hammer
Meat Hammer's picture

Stop this rollercoaster! I wanna get off!!!

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:25 | 5575426 noben
noben's picture

I thought you were getting off.
Aren't/haven't you retired to your homestead in the middle of nowhere?

Just unplug and live life. Else you might be a tad masochistic.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:07 | 5575503 Meat Hammer
Meat Hammer's picture

LOL, yes we're in the process of unplugging but it's a slow process. In the meantime, i check in with zh to watch the shitshow and keep myself motivated to unplug from said shitshow.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:22 | 5575569 Meat Hammer
Meat Hammer's picture

UPDATE - just scheduled an appointment for tomorrow to look at 40 acres in the el dorado national forest.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:28 | 5575698 chunga
chunga's picture

Dude you're gonna have no choice but get yourself a nice tractor.

Watch out for crazy rules in a national forest and also mineral rights.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:54 | 5575749 Meat Hammer
Meat Hammer's picture

Thanks, chunga.  Man, this is a daunting task...but totally worth it.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:02 | 5575644 DOGGONE
Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:15 | 5575394 JustObserving
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Do you require proof in a fascist, police state? Whatever happened to the investigation of Stuxnet which caused so much devastation in so many countries?

 

US escalates campaign against North Korea

 

By Patrick Martin 
20 December 2014


The Obama administration ratcheted up the pressure Friday on the isolated Stalinist regime in North Korea, with the FBI formally accusing North Korea of responsibility for the hacking attack on Sony Pictures Entertainment and Obama declaring that the US government would carry out an unspecified “proportionate response” against Pyongyang at “a time and place of our own choosing.”

Obama made no mention of the cyberattack or North Korea’s alleged responsibility in his opening statement at his end-of-the-year White House press conference, waiting until a suitable question was posed by the media to raise the issue.

The FBI offered no proof of a North Korean link to the hacking attack on Sony, which led to the studio’s cancellation of the planned December 25 release of the Seth Rogen film The Interview, a comedy whose premise is that two American journalists are contracted by the CIA to assassinate North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

The FBI statement claimed several similarities between computer code used in the malware deployed against Sony and that used in previous attacks linked to North Korea, but these claims are unsubstantiated and computer security experts interviewed in the press have cast doubt on whether any definitive links can be established.

The American public is asked to take on faith the FBI’s declaration that it “now has enough information to conclude that the North Korean government is responsible for these actions.” The statement continued: “North Korea’s actions were intended to inflict significant harm on a US business and suppress the right of American citizens to express themselves.”

Such language is ironic coming from a federal agency that plays a central role in the build-up of a police state apparatus in America. A recent report in the Wall Street Journal, citing figures from the National Center for State Courts, found that the FBI has accumulated criminal record files on 80 million Americans—more than one-third of the adult population.

Obama likewise provided no evidence of North Korean involvement, merely citing the FBI statement as authoritative. He criticized Sony Pictures for withdrawing The Interview from circulation in response to threats from the hackers, who called themselves “Guardians of Peace.”

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/12/20/nkor-d20.html

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:29 | 5575433 sun tzu
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The FBI is less trustworthy than the people they investigate. The ends justify the means for them. The US Constitution and laws be damned.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:56 | 5575500 Son of Loki
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I said it before and I’ll say it again; the way to open these fascists countries like NK is to send over our own brainwashing diplomats -- McDs, KFC, Micky Mouse, etc and get the masses there to change their minds.

 

Sanctions rarely work and we can see what military might does.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:03 | 5575514 TheGreatRecovery
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Wasn't there someone somewhere asking whether Fukushima got infected with Stuxnet and THAT'S WHY it melted down?  If so, then is that what we call "collateral damage"?

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:13 | 5575396 the6thBook
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Why was the torture report put out just before the Dumbs lose the Senate?

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:27 | 5575428 cossack55
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They had trouble fitting in as they were way too busy repealing BummerCare and building a fence along the southern border.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:59 | 5575507 BurningFuld
BurningFuld's picture

Does that fence keep the Mexicans in or out? I'm getting confused now.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:56 | 5575640 Winston Churchill
Winston Churchill's picture

Keeps Muricans in.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:11 | 5575662 HowdyDoody
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Neither. It keeps the execs of the corporations building in their accustomed lifestyle. Yachts and world-wide golf tours ain't cheap.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:15 | 5575398 Payne
Payne's picture

America is the bloated whale carcass on the beach, impossible to avoid and it can explode from internal pressure at any moment.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:17 | 5575400 Normalcy Bias
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If it weren't for the TV news, I'd swear this apple was rotten to its very core...

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:18 | 5575401 Freddie
Freddie's picture

Another Wag the Dog inside scam by z-Hollywood and Wash DC.  Evil scum.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:20 | 5575405 are we there yet
are we there yet's picture

North Korea spying on Hollywood movie producer Japanese email, is just not interesting to me.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:42 | 5575607 Renfield
Renfield's picture

Got FBI attention.

Which is more than can be said for Corzine / JPig Morgan / Golden Sack / HFT rigging / bankster executions / Banghazi / Fast & Furious / election fraud / immigration fraud etc. you get the picture.

These days it gets official attention ONLY IF it's of no importance to the public at large.

Besides... dude... it wasn't just Sony that was embarrassed. It was HOLLYWOOD! And THAT's important. Next they'll be insulting the Kennedies. Where's your patriotism, citizen?

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:20 | 5575406 Moribundus
Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:20 | 5575409 Seasmoke
Seasmoke's picture

USA = Exceptionally Awful. 

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:20 | 5575411 laomei
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oh no, the propaganda department took a hit, well lets not allow a good crisis to go to waste, who can we pin this on?  

 

Alternate theory: inside job. it was a crappy movie to begin with as it was.  with the hype involved though... plus, they get to air all the dirty laundry without consequence. lol

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:35 | 5575456 rwe2late
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Why a top former hacker does not believe North Korea did it.

"For something like this to happen, it had to happen over a long period of time. You cannot just exfiltrate one terabyte or 100 terabytes of data in a matter of weeks," Monsegur said. "It's not possible. It would have taken months, maybe even years, to exfiltrate something like 100 terabytes of data without anyone noticing."

[But Administration officials claim North Korea was behind the hack.]

"In my personal opinion, it's not," Monsegur said. "Look at the bandwidth going into North Korea. I mean, the pipelines, the pipes going in, handling data, they only have one major ISP across their entire nation. That kind of information flowing at one time would have shut down North Korean Internet completely."

[Some of the investigators point to malware written in Korean]

"Well, it doesn't tell me much. I've seen Russian hackers pretending to be Indian. I've seen Ukrainian hackers pretending to be Peruvian.There's hackers that pretend they're little girls. They do this for misinformation, disinformation, covering their tracks," he said. "Do you really think a bunch of nerds from North Korea are going to fly to New York and start blowing up movie theaters? No. It's not realistic. It's not about 'The interview.' It's about money. It's a professional job."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sony-hack-former-anonymous-hacker-not-convin...

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:44 | 5575478 rwe2late
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 Also,

it does seem odd to me, that the NSA

monitors all the internet traffic within the US and beyond,

and yet fails to monitor and supposedly "misses"

what goes on with internet traffic

into North Korea.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:44 | 5577308 yellowsub
yellowsub's picture

How can they fail to monitor something that was never sent to their country?

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:43 | 5575727 PT
PT's picture

But evreewun noes zat the smartest, most intellijent compyooter programmers and hakkers are born and trained in NORTH KOREA!!!  No way could the rest of the werld evr compeet with Zem.  Zay hav advanst teknolojee and zay are just TOOOOO SMART!!!

 

Evree day, Kim surveys the paddy fields and finds the britest, up-coming yung stars and sends them all to compyooter hakking sckool!!!  And now they are the smartest, tuffest hakkers in the werld and no wun can stop zem becoz zay are toooo clevr!!!

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:44 | 5575734 PT
PT's picture

I'm sinking ov going there myself.  My compyooter skills are out of date and I'd appreshiate a desent update.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:21 | 5575412 moneybots
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"On Friday, Mr. Obama faulted Sony’s decision to withhold the movie, saying that it created a precedent of studios giving into intimidation."

 

Apparently, it was the theater owners who were giving in to the threat of violence.

 

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:49 | 5575474 Freddie
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Theater owners heard the movie was a piece of shit and did not want to lose a lot of money.  Fat Seth Rogen and the very unlikable James Franco.

I don't watch Zollywood crap but this was supposedly even worse than their normal trash.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:48 | 5575623 Renfield
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Saved their career bacon, though.

Now their POS movie has the cachet of victimhood and patriotism. They were targetted by terrists!

Maybe Rogan and Franco hacked it themselves. Well, OK, not. But they have to be on their knees thanking whatever (god) they worship that 'terrists' transformed their career-buster into a star-maker.

They got t-shirts selling on ebay now for thousands of dollars, and when/if that movie ever does open here, it'll be packed with patriots showing them terrists how we do it.

I bet they'd pony up for picket lines, anyway. A few placards will extend the movie showtime for weeks.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:22 | 5575414 buzzsaw99
buzzsaw99's picture

Hitler and Stalin would be proud of the usa maggots.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 20:45 | 5576581 malek
malek's picture

Don't forget Mao.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:24 | 5575419 wmbz
wmbz's picture

This is such stupid crap. 'Lil Kim will toss your butt into the wild dogs pen if he doesn't like the way combed your hair, and watch them go to work. Starves his people for sport.

 Like it or not torture has gone on since the dawn of man. Right or wrong it is a fact, period.

Some dictators like kimmie will go medieval on your ass in a heartbeat!

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:24 | 5575420 are we there yet
are we there yet's picture

The FBI hasn't been the same since Moulder and Scully left the FBI's X files.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:29 | 5575434 noben
noben's picture

And no wonder that Special Agent Pendergast doesn't work from their offices.

He's the only FBI guy I'd trust.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:24 | 5575422 Arnold
Arnold's picture

Yet another administration fiasco? I think not.

Clearly, Dr No is involved and that information would interest MI6 there fore stuff rolls down hill to Mr Bond, James Bond.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:27 | 5575429 rwe2late
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Before Bush invaded Afghanistan, the Taliban offered to extradite BinLaden

--- IF Bush would provide some proof of BinLaden's involvement in 9/11.

 

After publicly providing their own evidence of Kiev jets near MH17, Russia asked the US to provide imagery from their satellite known to be directly overhead when the airliner was downed.

The list could go on and on, Iraq, Libya, Syria, ...

And now again, Korea.

 

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:30 | 5575441 cossack55
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No shit. These current evil axis countries are getting a little boring.  How about throw in Iceland for jailing bankers, the French fot building Russian warships and the Germans just because of the whole WW2 thingy.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 18:23 | 5576139 Savyindallas
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Yeah -let's get the Germans again. I bet if we really wanted to, we could come up with another million or so gassed. They reduced the Auschwitz gassings from 4.1 million to 1.5 million a few years ago. Let's go back to the old figures  -or bring back the discredited lampshade or Jewish soap stories. US power was built upon screwing germany twice the last century. I say it will work again  -three times is a charm.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:29 | 5575432 Sudden Debt
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I've got another possible reason:

MARKETING!!!!!!!!!!!

LOOK, THE MOVIE IS ABOUT THE CIA, NORTH KOREA AND ALL THAT SECRET STUFF!!!!

FIRST THEY SPURR SOME COMMOTION AND THAN THEY'LL LAUNCH THE MOVIE ANYWAY!!!!!!

WHAT A MARKETING AND PR STUNT THAT WOULD BE!!!

 

sure... hollywood has integrity and stuff... and they envision the moral high ground....

yeah...

 

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:31 | 5575443 sun tzu
sun tzu's picture

The US/NATO funds and supports most terrorist groups. Whatever happens can be traced back to the West.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:06 | 5575650 Winston Churchill
Winston Churchill's picture

Some interesting photos of the CIA contollers, with their created Pakistani taliban out there.

Go look, before they are scrubbed.

Whatever happened in Peshawar was planned , for the children, in Langley.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:29 | 5575439 ThisIsBob
ThisIsBob's picture

Who framed NK?  Who gains?

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:03 | 5575515 rwe2late
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Maybe there should be an investigation,

N. Korea offers to have joint investigation.
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-vows-u-response-north-korea-over-sony-002303...

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:31 | 5575442 noben
noben's picture

If they get punished and they retaliate, I hope they take out all the crappy studios in Rottenwood.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:31 | 5575446 sun tzu
sun tzu's picture

I don't think their Dongs have the range to reach whoreywood. 

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:03 | 5575516 Eyeroller
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The Norks have nuclear subs and don't need dongs...

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:27 | 5575695 yellowsub
yellowsub's picture

Yes but their new development, the Long Dong Silver will...

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:34 | 5575451 Crash N. Burn
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"the US had doctored photos of Iraq WMDs, and a doctored YouTube clip of Syrians "dead" after an Assad chemical attack. "

Running "news" (Diane Sawyer) reports lamenting the destruction of Israel (with video yet) showing devastation and a refugee. 'Course, problem is, the video is of Gaza and the refugee - a Palestinian!

ABC Manipulates Truth to Fit Pro-Israel Bias | Weapons of Mass Distraction

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:34 | 5575452 44magnum
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In a free world a Movie studio got hacked big deal they make movies so what. No great loss to the masses.

In our world a J-mafia enterprise was hacked. How dare they,the criminals the thieves. Its a NATIONAL Security issue. Think of all the j-mafias members who won't get paid if the studio ceases to exist OMG. Its a NATIONAL security issue!!!!

Its North Korea those crazy human rights abusing bastards they don't even have have a Redshield bank controlling their currency!!! The North Koreans are WARMONGERS!!!

Its a National Security Issue!!!!

 

 

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:35 | 5575455 williambanzai7
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Golf anyone?

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:37 | 5575457 marcusfenix
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burn.

you know things have truly gone to shit when even north korea takes the moral high ground, makes the fbi and the cia look like keystone cops and gets off a shot that has the entire planet laughing at them...

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:38 | 5575459 OneTinTrooper
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I feel bad for historians of the future trying to figure out what happened during the era of the narrative.   Every chapter of the book is going to have a dozen alternative theories about who we were and what we did.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:43 | 5575472 buzzsaw99
buzzsaw99's picture

they'll just decide the world was run by damned dirty apes

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:57 | 5575641 bid the soldier...
bid the soldiers shoot's picture

 

...with atomic bombs

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:39 | 5575464 basho
basho's picture

the exceptional amis are at it agian. go get 'em mccain.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:43 | 5575471 netpounder
netpounder's picture

If you want to find the guilty party, you look at the competition.  Who else has something to gain?  North Korea?  They are busy testing nukes to destroy DC, not cyberattack SONY.

What happened the last time the USA accused China of cyber espionage and stealing US corporate secrets?  It was the US all along spying and stealing from the rest of the world.  Weapons of mass distraction.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:57 | 5575504 pipes
pipes's picture

Indeed.

 

And on that train of thought, if you were, say, a major-multi, with tentacles in many different markets, and you wished to take the corporate espionage game to a whole new level...might you not trot out a sacrificial lamb/red-herring action against yourself as an inoculation against suspicion for the plans you have to torpedo virtually ANY competitor in the future?

 

Embarassing emails, a mediocre movie boxoffice, a couple of execs. careers, would be a small - and worthwhile - price to pay for such cover.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:43 | 5575479 Bernard_2011
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This is extremely serious.  This was a joint effort spearheaded by North Korea, Iran, Russia and China in an effort to subvert the United States by finding out the plans for upcoming movie productions in Hollywood.  

In response to this grave threat, I propose we give the Department of Homeland Security the power to control everything that we say and do on the Internet.  The bill should be named "Keeping America Safe by Giving Up Our Freedoms Act" and sent immediately for Obama's signature.

Please take note of the very serious language with which I have described this matter.  It is meant to move the American people and the Congress to action.  

I await imminent new action from Obama to keep us all safe.  Because keeping us safe is important and that is what Obama thinks about every day of his life.  Thank God we have a selfless person like him to protect us from all the harm that the evildoers out there in the rest of the world want to inflict on us.  OK, that's enough verbiage for now....

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:16 | 5575552 Bollixed
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I'm gonna green ya as soon as I finish wiping the upchuck out of my keyboard.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:44 | 5575480 Fun Facts
Fun Facts's picture

"I am now ashamed and embarassed for the country I grew up in" - one donkey's lament to his new Zionist World Order masters

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:46 | 5575484 pipes
pipes's picture

Generation: hoaX

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:48 | 5575486 foodstampbarry
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F U Hans Blix!

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:54 | 5575498 VWAndy
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Maybe its just me. Is this country being run by teenage coke heads? Sure seems like it.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:18 | 5575555 Lostinfortwalton
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Miley Cyrus would be embarrassed by our government. Obama's sixth obscene "in-your-face-America" Hawaiian Christmas just one small bird flip to the taxpayers.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 12:59 | 5575506 marcusfenix
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wait a minute didn't we just read about NK and Moscow fostering closer ties?

things that make you go hmm...

still if this is the best FF they could come up with... though it is probably the only one they knew had even a chance of sticking.

ah well, welcome to bizzaro world, enjoy your stay.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:06 | 5575527 Atomizer
Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:11 | 5575537 Lostinfortwalton
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I think Eric Holder has already gotten to the bottom of this. It is North Korea, no doubt at all! Now about the bankers, the IRS, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, and actually enforcing the country's laws - well, that will take a while.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:13 | 5575542 steelrules
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War and threats of war over a lousy comedy, I'll just say this, the worst comedy is in Washington and the whole planet knows it.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 14:58 | 5575758 litemine
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Oh, and whatever happened to all that media coverage of US "enhanced interrogation techniques" anyway?

M17

9/11

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 16:19 | 5575930 steelrules
Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:12 | 5575544 alexmark2013
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Sony Hack - False Flag EXPOSED - North Korea Framed? What Really Happened? And Who Did it? http://investmentwatchblog.com/sony-hack-false-flag-exposed-north-korea-framed-what-really-happened-and-who-did-it/
Sat, 12/20/2014 - 13:14 | 5575546 Pol Pot
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- Likely that Sony Corporation permitted hackers to penetrate its entertainment division

Although unnamed U.S. "intelligence source" are reporting to The New York Times, NBC News, and other CIA-friendly media venues that North Korea was behind the recent hack of Sony Picture Entertainment's computers, it is more likely that the hacking was arranged by the Hollywood subsidiary's corporate parent, Sony Corporation, in Japan. The hackers possessed system administrative and security administrative passwords and other credentials that could have come only from Sony insiders.

There is little evidence that the hacker group claiming responsibility for leaking a number of Sony Pictures' files, The "Guardians of Peace," was linked to North Korea. There is every indication that the hacker group adopted the name because of Sony's plans to partner with Marvel Studios in upcoming movies. Apparently, Marvel felt Sony was a better partner than Walt Disney Studios, which produced Marvel's last movie, "Guardians of the Galaxy." The similarity between the Guardians of Peace and the Guardians of the Galaxy prove that many professional computer hackers do retain a sense of humor when carrying out their missions.

Sony Corporation was under tremendous pressure from the government of Japan because of very sensitive negotiations between Tokyo and Pyongyang over the return of Japanese nationals, mostly from around the city of Niigata, who were kidnapped by North Korea in the 1970s. The delicate negotiations between Tokyo and Pyongyang centered on the number of kidnap victims who are to be repatriated to Japan. While North Korea and Japan agree that the number of kidnapped Japanese are less than 20, other reports suggest there are hundreds of such victims.

Then as North Korea was prepared to hand over to Tokyo a list of 883 abductees, a number that astounded the Japanese government of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, Sony Pictures announced that it was going to release on December 25 a movie called "The Interview." The movie, which stars the unfunny and generally arrogant Israel Defense Force fundraisers Seth Rogen and James Franco, has as its plot the grisly CIA assassination of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. When details of the movie began to leak out not from hackers but from the pages of the Hollywood Reporter and Variety, Sony and the Japanese government became worried. The most gruesome scene from the movie shows Kim's head being blown apart by a tank shell, spewing forth brain matter, chunks of skull, and charred hair and flesh. For Rogen and Franco, who have helped raise funds for the IDF, which has blown the heads off of young children in Gaza, this scene like the rest of the adolescent humor depicted in the film, was all such good fun. Except for the hundreds of Japanese abductees in North Korea who may now never see their homeland because of the antics of two idiotic and unfunny pillars of arrogance and their chucklehead bosses at Sony Pictures.

Apparently, the staid executives at Sony headquarters in Japan have always been looking for a way to rein in the freewheeling management of its Culver City-based division. Under pressure from the Abe government to pull "The Interview," Sony's decision to internally hack their movie division's computers, not only resulted in the movie being pulled from release because of threats issued by "The Guardians of Peace," not "The Guardians of the Galaxy," but also embarrassed its Culver City management over racist e-mails

The sanctimonious U.S. corporate news media, which has its own links to Hollywood through the corporate connections of Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN, is whining about how the U.S. fell prey to bullying from a dictator in North Korea. The CIA has climbed on the bandwagon by calling for more surveillance capabilities in cyberspace. North Korea is the favorite cyber-bogeyman for the U.S. military-intelligence complex and it ranks right up there with Russia and China when it comes to the creation of "cyber-enemies."

Rogen [left] with his "movie mom" Barbra Streisand [right] in "The Guilt Trip." Both are unabashed supporters of the baby-slaying IDF. Rogen told the media that his real Jewish mother, Sandy Rogen, told North Korea to "leave my son alone." If Kim's mother, Ko Yong-hui, who reportedly died in a Paris hospital in 2004 while being treated for breast cancer, were still alive, she might have some choice words for Sandy Rogen about leaving one's son alone.

However, the U.S. government now has egg on its own face over "The Interview." Found in the hacked Sony e-mails was an exchange between RAND Corporation's North Korea "expert" Bruce Bennett and Sony Pictures Entertainment Chairman and CEO Michael Lynton. Bennett said he reviewed the final scene where Kim's head is blown apart and believed that the DVD of the movie, once smuggled into North Korea, would have an impact in North and South Korea because it might hasten the assassination of the real Kim and trigger the overthrow of the North Korean government. RAND Corporation has been and remains a major contractor for the CIA.

Lynton responded to Bennett, saying that the death scene of Kim was approved by a very senior official of the U.S. State Department and the U.S. special envoy for North Korean human rights issues, Ambassador Robert King.

In June, Sony Pictures Entertainment co-chair Amy Pascal, whose own racially-tinged e-mails concerning President Obama were also revealed by "The Guardians of Peace," e-mailed Sony Pictures vice-chairman Jeff Black with an urgent order: "we need sonys [sic] name off this asap everywhere." Pascal urged dropping the grisly death scene of Kim that RAND and the State Department wanted to remain in the film and package a less violent version of "The Interview" for release under Sony's Columbia Pictures subsidiary. Lynton also agreed that the death scene should go: "Yeah we cannot be cute here. What we really want is no melting face and actually not seeing him die. A look of horror as the fire approaches is probably what we need."

It is clear that Sony executives in Japan were putting pressure on its movie division to drop the scene if not the entire movie. Kaz Hirai, the chairman of Sony in Japan, did not want the death scene of Kim. His concerns coincided with the sensitive negotiations between Japan and North Korea over the Japanese kidnapped victims.

However, it appears from the leaked e-mails that the arrogant IDF-supporting co-star, Rogen, was incensed about dropping the death scene. Rogen even got crosswise with Sony's big boss Hirai.

With theater chains pulling "The Interview" from its planned December 25 premiere, Rogen and Franco have stirred up their "glitterati" friends to condemn the censorship. The theater owners said they were concerned over unspecified "terrorist" threats against theaters that showed the film. Useful idiots like George Clooney and Bill Maher have rallied to the defense of the movie. It should be pointed out that Maher's VICE operation, part of HBO, has also penetrated North Korea, once under the guise of documenting basketball player Dennis Rodman's trip to meet Kim. There is no doubt that VICE, which gains access to the world's battlefields, is yet another U.S. intelligence operation using Hollywood as a cover.

The real tragedy is that hundreds of Japanese kidnapping victim may remain stranded in North Korea because Rogen, Franco, Ambassador King, Lynton, Pascal, RAND's Bennett, and their intelligence agency interlocutors put their own agendas ahead of the Japanese people. However, the tragedy for fans of Rogen and Franco is that they will not be able to see the leader of North Korea's head being blown to smithereens on December 25 after they dine on their egg drop soup and General Tso's chicken at the Chinese restaurants that remain open on Christmas day.

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