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Judge Rules Obama's Abuse Of Executive Orders Is "Unconstitutional"
Submitted by Martin Armstrong via Armstrong Economics,
A federal judge, Judge Arthur J. Schwab of the Western District of Pennsylvania, used a deportation decision to probe the constitutionality of President Obama’s executive order on amnesty, declaring it “unconstitutional.”
It is about time that Executive Orders are challenged in court for they are absolutely unconstitutional since they smack of a dictatorial abuse of power that denies the people the right to decide the fate of their nation.
Indeed, Texas and other states have already initiated lawsuits challenging the order. Nonetheless, the key here is that ANY such Executive Order is unconstitutional violating the entire concept of a Republic where it is at least a pretense that it is a government by the people rather than a king acting on a personal whim. This is what the law should be – not because of the subject-matter, but any issue.
Obama could just as easily order that the IRS increase taxes to 85% without Congress. Anything would be possible. This is the immigration issue, but the act of an Executive Order is everything. Obama just issued such an unconstitutional order to the FCC directing them to regulate and license the Internet. There is nothing any President could do without a vote from the people
Consequently, Judge Schwab wrote:
“President Obama’s unilateral legislative action violates the separation of powers provided for in the United States Constitution as well as the Take Care Clause, and therefore, is unconstitutional.”
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Impeach
We'd be better off with Biden...and that's sayin something...
coincidentally Judge Schwab seen shopping for nailguns at his local Home Depot on Friday evening . . . . .
. . . . . but died of a massive heart attack in aisle 43. It was determined the Judge's life-style of daily jogging and eating organic, non-gmo food contributed to his heart failure.
EPA was created by Executive Order. No law ever written or passed to bring it into existence
IN all of these Red Meat articles about Obama (armstrong key specialist by now), I scan to see comments by the regulars, and it is all newbies. Mostly are comments by people who do not often comment on economic and financial issues.
Frustrated in Texas
Secret Justice Dept.. Memo on behalf of Obama?
What no dirt on Judge Arthur J. Schwab? Why are funding the NSA if they can even do the basics? How did we ever allow an non paedophilic , in-corrupt judge to slip through?
Just another proof of the North Korean involvement in the Sony Affair..
The un-naturally born citizen with undisclosed prior foreign citizenry was Unconstitional from the day Pelosi defrauded the election commission and put him in nomination.
Every member of Congress and every federal court official who swore to uphold the Constitution is guilty of violation of oath of office at worst and negligence at best.
Obama rules that judge is to be "audited" by the IRS, "blackmailed" by the NSA, and "fired" from his job.
He might even be "suicided" by a nail gun.
Judiciary ruling from 'SCHWAB' against Obama???
Well I guess that means that he missed an INSTRUCTIONAL meeting...
JFK missed one too many INSTRUCTIONAL meetings. With Obama, it's easier because all the dirt needed to put him in a pine box was already in place long before the phrase 'HOPE & CHANGE' was ever conjured up.
This is going to make it hard for Barry since Pennsylvania judges are well-known for their solid legal reasoning [as opposed to an opinion from Alabama, for example]. Yes, I know they are all ‘federal judges’ but Pa judges are definitely held in high regard.
FUCK OFF ARIUS YOU ASSSHOOOOLE!
How's this for a comment by a non-newbiw
Hope you're happy now dip shit.
A judge can rule Obama's actions "unconstitutional" all he wants, but what the F is he going to do about it?
Absolutely nothing, that's what.
Until he's thrown out of office, this is all rhetoric that means nothing.
finding child pornography on the judge's computer in 3...2...1...
Too easy, Barry Hussein will just have him audited by the IRS for a decade's worth of returns or so, bankrupt him with legal and accounting fees and offer a "deal" to call off the dogs so long as he resigns or tows the line.
Just bend over and get ready for Jeb or Hillary in 2016, BHO is just the tip.
Yep, Obola's response... "Meh..."
What prompted the constitutional talker to become the least constitutional person in the land with the most-copied consitutional model on this planet?
Just the tip? I've played that game before.
It takes longer than that to plant the evidence. The NSA is a .GOV agency after all
reassuring....
Man, that must be a bad movie! I've never seen as much advertising for any other movie in my entire life like that one.
No, most likely culprit is US trying to whip up a war with the NORK's.
http://www.symantec.com/connect/blogs/regin-top-tier-espionage-tool-enab...
Ain't that the truth. The only screening needed is to select those who are controllable through their degeneracy and perversion or just plain old venality. If they can't be bought, they can be blackmailed. Anyone else nailguns themselves.
GWB appointee.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_J._Schwab
We can expect the an appeals court, stacked by Clinton appointees, to overturn it.
epa seems like a way to carry out environmental legislation and hence a valid use of executive power. where i feel iffy about the prez is the endless undeclared war, the refusal to prosecute bank fraud and execution of u.s. citizens by executive order. that's an unconstitutional use of executive orders in my opinion.
schwab may be right on this one but he certainly was mean to tommy chong (wiki):
On January 23, 2002, Schwab was nominated by President George W. Bush to a seat on the United States District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania vacated by Maurice B. Cohill, Jr.. Schwab was confirmed by the United States Senate on September 13, 2002, and received his commission on September 17, 2002.
In 2008, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette reported Schwab had the "lowest ranking among federal judges" by 797 lawyers in the Allegheny County Bar Association.[2]
In 2011, he was accused of bias and recused himself from seventeen ongoing cases.[3]
Tommy Chong case[edit]
In 2003, Schwab presided over the case involving Tommy Chong's trial for conspiracy to distribute drug paraphernalia (bongs), and sentenced him to nine months in federal prison, as well as a hefty financial penalty.[4]
Cyril Wecht case[edit]
In 2008, Schwab presided over and was eventually removed from the Cyril Wecht federal trial, a case that caused considerable controversy. The defendant, a prominent Democrat in Pennsylvania, alleged that Judge Schwab was biased and the prosecution was political in nature and sought to have Judge Schwab removed, but was turned down. Among the controversial decisions that Schwab made was seeking to keep the names of jurors anonymous, a tactic usually reserved for criminal cases where the jurors may be in danger. This was overturned by the Third Circuit Court of Appeals. [5]
After Schwab declared the original trial a mistrial, he was criticized for not following proper procedures before declaring a mistrial, such as polling the jury which would have determined if the defendant should be retried on all counts or just one.[6]
One month later he was removed from presiding over the retrial. The Appellate court cited a "combative tenor" in the proceedings and hoped for "reduced level of rancor."[7] On May 14, 2009, the new judge in the case tossed out most of the evidence against Wecht stating it was seized under unconstitutional warrants[8] On June 2, all charges were dropped against Cyril Wecht.[9]
West Penn Allegheny Health System v UPMC case[edit]
In 2012, Schwab presided over the West Penn Allegheny Health System v University of Pittsburgh Medical Center (UPMC) case, and in a rare move, the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals removed him from case. According to Pittsburgh Post Gazette, "It's rare for a federal judge to get yanked from a case, and twice in four years gets everyone's attention."[10]
You're either for or against executive power. Can't have it both ways. The EPA exists to limit production, btw. Think of it as a beta version of Agenda 21.
"epa seems like a way to carry out environmental legislation and hence a valid use of executive power" is as far as I read, as it told me, no offense, that you have no idea what you are talking about.
He's not been screened by Schumer as in the Second Circuit (NY, VT,CT). This decision must next pass the Third Circuit (DE, NJ, PA). Obama is safe in the Supreme with Roberts.
Arius - just a guess, but a few could be those old-timers in a new incarnation...
Wait. Did we win? Is it over?
Yep. The Republic has been restored, and justice shall prevail throughout the land.
God, I just hope we can made until Jeb is president....
US needs a 3rd Bush as much as it needs a 3rd term with the corrupt incompetent divisive arrogant narcissistic illegal indonesian kenyan alien muslim sociopathic pathological liar in chief fudgepacker...
Arius, here' a link to a financial tidbit, brought to us all, by the Unconstitutional behavior of the Cocksucker-In-Chief, (and his minions, both R and D).
http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-do...
Then get the fuck out of Texas, tomorrow you POS.
'Red meat'?
I suspect that had a Republican tried to do by executive fiat what Obama has, you'd see the issue plainly - the former professor of Constitutional law keeps doing things that are against the plain language of the Constitution.
Regardless of political leanings, the Executive simply wasn't given this power to ignore, nullify and create law.
Try to focus on the issue, instead of dispensing hackneyed partisan bloviating every time your guy is rightly criticized for his efforts at an Imperial Presidency.
p.s. I was a vociferous critic of Bush for his [or Cheney's] absurd view of Executive power as well.
Obama is the CEO of a corporation he can do whatever he wants , we have not had a Gov't since 1871 so if you want to obay a corp it's up to you , next time you see any "Gov't" worker ask them to prove to you that they are the same Gov't as set up at the inception of this country , they cannot do it . The world is run and owend by Corperation's .
Yet it was that very same "small" government that created legal chicanery under which The Corporations operate.
IOW, the Occupying Force (Gummint) with which we began, got us to where we are.
....just as it was with all other "civiilizations" before us. I detect a pattern.
Either the Constitution authorizes the government we have or was unable to stop it.
Why waste time trying to prove government has a somewhat different legal definition now than it did before.
Either the Constitution authorizes the government we have or was unable to stop it.
Either the people like what it is doing, or they do not.
Either the people will pay the debts it says they owe, or they will not.
Eitehr the people will allow themselves to be disarmed, or they will not.
To be fair, it DID take us over 200 years to get to this point.
We did have a Civil War over his stuff.
I thinks folks need to be honest with the folks here...that's all. If there's a segment of the population that is hated and "you want dead" (and I don't me you and me but folks "leading the charge") why not just come out and say it?
The "law" strikes me as the worst possible cudgel to use in this regard. We obey because the law exists to protect us...even from ourselves. To use the law as some type of "weapon" strikes me as terror indeed.
And indeed Thomas Jefferson...no less than he author of the Declaration of Independence...has spoken on this issue. "These truths are self evident" he said.
I guess I would side with the founders in thinking that there are certain things no government, and no majority, no matter how big should be able to take from people. I think most people agree that govenment should not be able to kill 6 million jews no matter how many people think it is in the publics best interests to do so. Using the constitution is just using the logic and rational of the founders, who made their case extreemly elloquently, to make that case to others. I think it can be very effective given that the principals on whicih the government was founded are concepts that so many wish to keep hidden for fear that the simple logic of it undermines their anility to bend others to their will.
Maybe they were just having fun?
Its not like Goring denied it. Haul Brennan in before the Supreme Court and ask the phuck some questions.
Next up the Director of the FBI.
At least the Attorney General would finally get to see the inside of a courthouse for the first time. "Yo, bitch. That's Senators you be buggin', comprenede?"
Of course you might want to increase the security detail if this is the approach. On the other hand the most unique aspect of the American Supreme Court is they get to ask the questions and all you do is phucking explain yourself. They could care less about your answers. And as we all know from Bush versus Gore "good luck appealing that decision."
Have the Speaker of the House argue the case. Didn't stop John Quincy Adams. Put them in detention right in the Capitol Building "with a CSPAN camera on them at all times.". And if the give We the People any trouble that's what the Sergeant at Arms is for...
..boozer redfaced bonehead boner couldn't argue his way out of a wet paper bag...
Didn't happen. Slave labor, yes. Even Ford Motor profited from that.
http://www.bestgore.com/holohoax/auschwitz-plaques-six-million-myth-revi...
Either way, the Contitution is a farce, legal definition of government is irrelevant. As government requires the initiation of force, the premise under which it exists is morally inconsistent because if flatly violates the non-aggression principle. It is also logically inconsistent (i.e allowing a small group to steal from me in order to protect my property from theft)
the only question left is, why do we need government?
Force exists. There's no way to stop it and we really wouldn't want to even if we could. There will always be many different kinds of people and someone will always claim they are being forced. We always have a choice, even if we don't like the choices available to us.
Force is the overwhelming feature of bad government, not government in general.
Government is how people agree to live together. That's all it is. Anytime you get more than a few people together some form of leadership will emerge. The desirability and durability is entirely dependent upon the people involved.
I"m coming to understand Jeffersons remedy of Nullification more and more every day. When a government no longer answers to the people, when the laws are designed to create crime, and when government are obvious thugs, then it is We The People's responsibility to do good in the world regardless of the thugs in power.
A protection-only government does not require intitatory force. The Prime Law of no initiatory force will reduce government to its proper purpose of defense, rather than offense, and raise standards of living for everyone.
The problem is the rule of man and its ruling class of politicians who assume the right to control our lives and businesses for no reason other than we allow them to do so. End the rule of man in order to launch the wealth of mankind. Stop voting for Democrips and Rebloodlicans.
http://www.tvpnc.org
I keep seeing this corporation argument - I've never seen any good evidence that it is even remotely true. In any event, you can rest assured that Congress, without the States, never had any power to do any such thing.
I don't think it's true: http://teamlaw.net/Mythology-CorpUS.htm#dcoa1871
And having asked a couple smarter friends - I'm sure it's not true, and sure no one can provide any authority indicating otherwise, but junk away.
p.s. Some guy who never went to law school and blogs from his garage is not an 'authority'. It is important to shave off the conspiracy theories which are nonsense. Why would you cling to something - because of the high you get from feeling like you possess secret knowledge? Sometimes it's just bullshit, guys - or an interpretation by someone who doesn't quite understand the subject matter.
And if you couldn't bother to read the link - what, honestly, does that say about you?
Yea and that has been a total clusterfuck big industry protection racket hell bent on destroying small business
Well that's Nixon for you as I believe it was he who created the EPA to enforce the newly created Federal Lands that were secretly pledged as backing for the US Dollar since it was no longer backed by gold. This country was sold a long time ago all that's left are the "Baltic Place's" of the country's monopoly board.
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The dollar is not backed by land. A fiat currency is backed by the work and honesty of those who use it. The trouble is that a fiat currency, particularly one also backed by government monopoly, is tailor made for dishonesty.
These two stories illustrate the fine line that is always being walked one way or another in all manner of things due to the uniqueness of each human being. We all understand things a little (or a lot) differently.
Rafflling a Dead Donkey - http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2009/06/11/the_banking_problem_explained/
An investment banker dies and goes to Heaven - http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2004/04/22/an_investment_banker/
Truth => Individual => Responsibiility => Choice => Freedom
We the People create the world we live in with every choice we make.
Merry Christmas
So what you're saying is the EPA is also unconstitutional... big surprise. Then again, a vast array of laws passed by congress that force people into programs against their will are also obviously unconstitutional. The problem is the courts have sided with the politicians in contorting a few clauses in the constitution to make nearly any action of the government legal, and where they can't do that they have made the IRS a loophole though which virtually any action can potentially be consider a legitimate action of government including unlawful search and seizure, denying your right to hear your case heard in court, or even buying things the government deem you should buy.
The Constitution is heavily flawed, as it allows five out of nine Supreme Court judges to rule on what is Constitutional or not.
They ruled ACA as constitutional because it is a "tax" and taxing is a power that Congress was given under the Constitution.
Before you guys accuse of me of being a "traitor" for despising our Constitution, you got to remember, many of the founders hated the end result too. I recommend reading the debates in the Anti-federalist papers.
The Bill of Rights was added on at the last minute, and that's the only thing worth saving, although the 9th amendment was too vague and the list of unalienable rights wasn't comprehensive enough.
It was a step in the right direction, considering the founders barely just got out of Monarchism, but why we have our hands tied to an 18th Century document is comical at best.
I have so many criticisms, there's not enough time for me to list them all here on a comments section to an article, but I highly recommend reading The Constitution Con by Michael Tsarion. Some of the founders left the door wide open for British agents to come in later and rule subtly.
"It was a step in the right direction, considering the founders barely just got out of Monarchism"
Have you forgotten that it was the The Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union that followed Monarchy, and preceded the Constitution? We won the American Revolution under the rule of the Article of Confederation. The Constitution was thus a step back towards Monarchism.
"The Constitution was thus a step back towards Monarchism."
Correct.
The original Constitutional Convention (ConCon) was convened to correct certain perceived deficiencies in the Articles. What happened was that the Articles were thrown out and a brand-new Constitution was substituted.
Now we are faced with those who want another ConCon. This time we will get the "Newstates Constitution" underwhich we will report to "Overseers".
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/master_file/newstatescon...
Ain't it wunnerful?
Not true, and not valid as written anyway. The Constitution had and has nothing to do with monarchism - the federal government was given very limited powers, but over time the judiciary enabled expansion well beyond the powers provided.
It isn't perfect, but blaming the Constitution is giving a pass to the citizenry which, uninformed and apathetic, let it happen.
Perhaps the only, and I do mean only redeeming point about the ruling the Supreme Court made with regards to Obamacare (don't ever ask me to call it by it's "official" name) was that they did strike down it's legality per the Commerce Clause (effectively putting a stake in it's heart, but not necessarily killing it). And the Commerce Clause has been abused for years. http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2011/01/commerce-commerce-every...
Standard Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, but I used to date one that looked a lot like a young Jackie O. Men do crazy things at times, like reading Black's law dictionary, just to not look like a complete idiot when in the presence of some of her friends in the legal industry.
EPA was created in 1970 by an Executive Order by President Richard M. Nixon. This Executive Order was then ratified by committee hearings in the USA Senate and Houser of Representatives. The creation of the EPA in 1970 was pursuant to 1970 amendments to the Clean Air Act of 1955, which was also amended in 1963 and 1967. The Clean Water Act was signed into law in 1972.
His body was found simultaneously in Maine and Texas just after he said something snarky about Goldman, Corexit and the Nork 2 man mini sub blowing up the Mercado platform in the Gulf of Mexico.
BTW How many MSM propaganda providers will be carrying this story and those who do, in what light will it be presented. As a matter of Constitutional Law or as matter of a Constitutional Scholar and predident being challenged by a racist judge or where else in between those two extremes?
And in any case, how much louder will be the continuing miasma of the Norks terrorist threat to American's Christmas Holiday Right to see a dumb ass idiotic useless movie being abridged by Censorship from NK itself which constitutes a National Scrutiny Threat and justly demands Nuclear Response?
Huh?
Betcha betcha betcha>
See, its exactly this type of legal motion/decision that the plebes must be distracted from and the NK movie shit is just the ticket.
Setup, folks?
You betchur life it is
You been folksed. And don't even know it.
We folksed some people
.
...right in the USA-hole.
By 'Constitutional Professor' they meant he professed to know about the constimitution.
Dude is becoming the hologram's ultimate crisis actor.
Where was this big ruling, say about 1942?
- Signed,
Japanese Americans
Ja? Wo es war?
- German American same year....
We sporked some folks with a kanife.
F*CK OBAMA and f*ck the idiot retarded Americans who are so f. useless they can't even get rid of this imbecile puppet.
Yeah, who is this judge, and what does he think he's doing?
he's making obama an accessory to every single crime committed by these illegals.
And where in the constitution did Judge Schwab get the power to rule that something the Pres did is unconstitutional? That power does not exist in the constitution. So, the judge is behaving like a dictator and needs to be impeached!
The judge gets that power from his pair of balls.
Yup. It is a power not granted in the constitution which govenment has siezed for itself, the power of those appointed by the executive and legislative branches to decide if what the executive and legislative branches have done is legal. How could that go wrong?
As for this judge what he has done is meaningless, it will just get upheld or reversed by a higher level judge, and so is only a footnote in what ultimately gets decided.
Yup. It is a power not granted in the constitution which govenment has siezed for itself, the power of those appointed by the executive and legislative branches to decide if what the executive and legislative branches have done is legal. How could that go wrong?
As for this judge what he has done is meaningless, it will just get upheld or reversed by a higher level judge, and so is only a footnote in what ultimately gets decided.
32 junks and I'm your first upvote - only because you raise an entirely valid point. The court crowned itself and the Founders had all sorts of somewhat interesting debates on Constitutional review.
Biggest mistake, imho, in all the Constitution, was not having term limits for judges.
Every week we have 1 maybe 2 articles of Obama where a judge rules his actions are unconstitutional. The judges are correct but not one judge is signing a warrant for his arrest. My point is who fucking cares because nobody seems to give a shit. Just a show now eat your popcorn.
Thats the absolute flaw the Founders made in writing it, and why its has ,and still is
ignored by those swearing to uphold it.
Should have been made a capital offense, its not even a criminal one.
This judge did not injunct,why not ?
Yep and why its all for show. Makes you feel like tax payers money is trying to do some good. Its just one big circle jerk and the tax payers are the pivot man.
The Fed judiciary has evolved into a finely-tuned system of political favors & pay-backs. This decision will be "appealled", which is to say it will be put up for auction and a suitable, higher court/judge will be identified to overturn this ruling... and the game continues.
The SCOTUS is the bottom line - the dike that can stop a sea of judicial corruption - but we've seen the SCOTUS drown itself in the corrupt waters of politics, as well. The 2000 election (FL recount), Citizens United & ACA decisions should extinguish any naive hope that our Federal courts will uphold the Law of the Land. Like congress, the judiciary has become mere theater for the few citizens that still pay attention... offering the illusion justice much like a religious ritual offers the illusion of salvation.
More like the Secrect Service and the CIA shopping for nail guns.
we'd be better off with my german shepard Duke
Better off wth Ron Paul.
Better off with Dennis Kucinich.
FOR FUCK'S SAKE WE'D BE BETTER OF WITH ELIZABETH WARREN, AND I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M ACTUALLY SAYING THAT.
better off with Hoody Doody!
Better off with a steaming pile of crap in charge
"Hail Hail to the commander in chief, the great feces!"
At least Elizabeth Warren was born in America. Possibly on an Indian Reservation in Okalahoma City.
Frank Marshall Davis got busy with "Obama"'s mom, most likely, and the Kenyan "father" isn't the genetic one. That was cover for the embarrassing problematic truth. As it stood back then. Anyway. Just take a look at Obama's mug next to FMD's, and the Kenyan official father. Barry looks like the American born card carrying communist, not the Kenyan anti-imperialist socialist.
I agree with her and Bernie Sanders on a fair bit [and where I deviate from orthodox libertarianism, I'm not interested in trying to litigate the matter here, I just happen to generally fall along the border of "progressive" and "libertarian" and fwiw wrestle a lot of times, not having a firmly made up mind] but it is interesting to note how liberal, even "socialist" they are...
on every fucking issue but Israel/Palestine - where they fold like a cheap suit and sympathize with their fellow tribalists, respectively.
Telling, Warren's incongruous adherence to the AIPAC-line is it not?
Any of those three would certainly die in office.
Was Duke born in the US? Pedigree papers obviously falsified?
Do you think he likes it here, or will he try to make us like Germany?
Does he lie constantly? Shit in the house? Bullied by poodles?
I bet Duke would be loyal to the people and defend the Constitution, you know, like a commander and chief would. He would guard our border and only attack when the people were attacked. He likes steak, but his appetites otherwise would not be that unreasonable. Duke may spend a little too much time playing fetch, but it can't be as bad as all the golfing Obama does.
I vote for Duke even if he is a "German" sheppard.
...and we probably wouldn't need several lawyers and milllions of dollars in order to hide Duke's personal background from the public, either.
I'm guessing Duke doesn't give blow jobs to Springer Spaniels either or take it in the nickel slot by Golden Retrievers.
I bet Duke has no idea what a Choomwagon is.
Duke's got my vote
"We'd be better off with Biden...and that's sayin something..."
The only difference is all the headlines would say "Biden guilty of..."
instead of "Obama guilty of...".
Wake the fuck up you idiots. You could not find two fundamentally different politicions than Bush and Obama yet they both have done the EXACT same shit.
Hey, thanks for the tip.
You are unnecessarily boorish, but you are correct. These folks are not idiots but, like you and me, have been socialized from birth to believe voting matters. The whole idea that it has all been a lie since most of us have been alive is a big damn pill to swallow. What it all means takes time to articulate out into the nooks and crannies of our everyday lives. Some habits are hard to break. Believing in your government is one of them. I loved my civics class so much. I thought our system was so cool. Losing this is like losing your religion, like finding rock solid proof that everything you have been taught about God or Christ is a lie.
Compassion, not contempt, is in order. And yeah, I get pissed to. But I also catch myself slipping into the old mental habits as well.
That God/Christ thing is a lie as well.
We live in a simulation.
Well, half the country doesn't even turn up to the polls at all, so that's not even true.
It's apathy and not caring.
If the 45% who don't show up at all, actually did show up and voted third party, albeit a Diebold intervention, then there would be real change, but apathy is easier.
Most people think their vote doesn't count.
I took it that the poster was calling ZHers idiots for talking about Obama vs. Biden. I take it that ZH posters are more engaged, or they would not be reading here or posting. ZHers are NOT apathetic. I was suggesting treating our own with compassion. Looking to the government for anything is a bad habit and hard to break.
Sorry MsC
I was talking to those who keep blaming everything on the POTUS dejour not you all.
Cheers!
Their vote does not count. Regardless of the outcome of the 2000 Elections it was revealed that Statistical Sampling was more of a factor than the actual count of the votes.
It would not have been any different if Gore won the Whore House anyway. The Government of the uSA is a continuation of sorts. Presidential Adminstrations are born. Within Four to Eight Years that Administration is replaced. But the Government Agencies and their Administrative Law persists throughout, unchallenged, unchanged. Just part of a continuum. You like Dr. Who...Look at the continuum and understand it from that perspective.
And as for the votes? They are manipulated. Furthermore there is no choice. When people come to that realization then they drop out as they are not stupid and know they have no affect. Generally people do not participate in EXERCISES OF FUTILITY.
There are many better things for many to do....and more enjoyable to many...like being programmed by their TeeVee.
Not my cup of tea...and I do hate Tea. But, you know, maybe typing on this forum and laughing at stupidity like voting, like which politician is the biggest buttfucker, like...well....et cetera...is more enjoyable to me. Mmmmm...Yeah...It is entertaining.
As Stalin said it is not the votes that matter. What matters is who counts the votes.
The Election of 2000 was the stimulus to this "apathy" regardless of whom you may have voted against.
A Third Party candidate will not be allowed to steal the show again...like Ross Perot did. Both the Republicans and Democrat unaminously have passed Election Rule Law and Debate Rules to make certain that it will never impact a Presidential Election again.
THERE IS NO HOPE. THERE ARE NO POLITICAL SOLUTIONS.
If I did not care, as you seem to suggest, then I would not SPEND HOURS TYPING ON THIS AND OTHER FORUMS.
SO THAT IS BULLSHIT.
But I have learned the Serenity Prayer and do my best to apply it. I have learned to accept the thing which I cannot change....including your statist faith.
So knock yourself out. Keep believing in that system, buddy. Let me know how it works out fer ya.
'THERE IS NO HOPE. THERE ARE NO POLITICAL SOLUTIONS.'
There is one solution (at least!) that has not been tried.
Legal challenges have to be raised that any elected representative at all levels of Gov't. cannot have dual-citizenship.
Being so amounts to a conflict of allegience, hence treason.
According to pre-last elction ZH article on the subject, 'there are (were) around 27 Congressmen and 13 Senators who currently hold dual citizenship with Israel.'
"We live in a simulation."
Horrordeck?
"That God/Christ thing is a lie as well."
I have read up on it, it is no more or less mythology than anything else we got going and call religion. It is interesting to watch how the Christian religion evolved through history. Underpinning all religions is something very real. Psychologists who do alpha theta brain wave training can "induce" religious experiences in the brain. I have been there and done that personally. The animals that we are, happen to be wired to do a thing that we reify a little differently from one another, all over the world. This is why I refuse to be disrepectful of any one religion. In other words, I agree with you, and don't.
The metaphor of having your world pulled out from under you was what I was after.
That God/Christ thing is a lie as well.
We live in a simulation.
Now I am not in agreement, nor, am I in disagreement that we are in a Holographic Simulation. The Universe is evidentially digital which tends to support that theory. The Universe IS Holographic.
But why can't the Master Programmer manifest Himself into the simulation as Christ?
If He initially wrote the code then He can write any subroutine which He pleases as long as it is functional within the framework.
Watch the Matrix again.
Neo, the New Man, is analogous to the Christ.
Notice that there had been 6 runs of the program before. Number 7 is the day of rest.
It is a very Spiritual Trilogy (note Three).
You are ready. Walk through that door. Leave the Matrix. (the World corrupt.)
And here I thought I was damn near the only one who considered that possibily. I figure if God can pull off the big bang, code the physics and make it operational on some level (holigram, whatever) just how hard would it be for Him to insert Himself into his creation in order to bridge the gap between Himself and the creation. Why not create a bridge for us to take where the choice to take it is the only requirement? It even makes sense albeit in a crazy way. It's certainly no crazier than the singularity, E=mc^2, quantum dynamics and DNA arising from nothing? Needless to say, I don't do Bible study groups for fear of being burned to death in the parking lot.
More waking up to do.
Tesla thought that Einstein was an idiot stooge and relativity was a stupid mental mind-fuck with no real utility. I happen to agree. You might look into it.
Materialism is the most essential lie. Wake up!
If "God" ( implicitly monotheistic -- another error ) is in the Matrix -- look around -- can you find the divinity you seek?
Who is it that frames the question?
Here here! If they're called "idiots," their defense mechanisms are likely to immediately shut down any consideration of such "outside the box" concepts.
Treat them with a little compassion and understanding, and they just might consider new concepts long enough to see the light...
"Compassion, not contempt, is in order."
We wake up as ego, and go to sleep as spirit.
When one sees right up numbers and truth spelled out so well here, all can KNOW these are the modern saviors in a real/unreal world. These greats are writing the history as leaders and Way showers, not being the slaves of those who would write your history for you. Be thou faithful until death, and you shall have a Crown of Eternal Life. Words never so true and if anyone has had after-death experiences, you KNOW this already.
Ask, what is a Secret of Life? Preparing for the next one. How do YOU Save YOUR eternal soul? By expressing your vital life force energies in good and righteous words, deeds, and right-up actions. Every action, has an opposite and equal re-action. Cause, and Effect. This is the Law engraved in the Stone of Eternal Time and nothing, absolutely nothing in mans or Thing's world of the money-god will ever, ever change that.
Sure would like to call them family names, instead of the other angrily expressed words, Mr. Rothschild, and Mr. Rockefeller sirs.
Bless'ed are the Way Showers, Great Teachers, and real Writers of the matrix's history in OUR time. See you on the other side!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwT_CdRWpb4
Compassion.: Forgive them Father, for they know nothing any better than evil. Yes, limited edumacation leads to limited reality in the unreality. There is sooooooo much beauty in the 3-D, and sooooo much abundance of soooooo much to share. Why argue when each and every one soul can have all they need to live happy, and self-sustainable lives. Compassion allows one to pat their little pointed heads and say, they just have just not been taught any better. Every child is born from a place of beauty, truth, and absolute Golden Light. It is where we all come from. Speaking specifically to the soul you are. What we become is a product of what is taught and conditioned into us as we grow up. We learn to become the world around us. The body is four basice elements of this 3-D world. You, are the fifth element that animates it all. The miricle of creation is, putting you the flame of spirit you are in a glass of water, and calling you what ever your name is.
Now, can you imagine nefariously and wickedly planning this and controlling the way every single soul on board grows up? Swack! That spank on your arse, and the first gasping breath, and the bright lights, and, it's sooo cold!!!, and, who are all these new looking things grabbing on to me and then, ahhhhhh!!!!, the sudden snip of the only connection to mom and the reality you just came from in the umbilical cord!!!...that final freak-out Yowwwww experience that becomes the very first harsh conditioned response of the new born babe. For most, not counting water births, this fear conditioning to manipulate the spiritual being you are is what most human babies experience, and is thereafter heavily monitored as it's slow-drip administered.
Ever see a Gellfling sucked dry of it's vital life force? See where this is going? Yes, FEAR!...and how it is nurtured and propagated for the rest of the living beings life time. Ask, who controls and uses fear to control you? How many vectors does FEAR!!! come from, and who is responsible for that propagation and flag waving fear? Is it the beauty, truth, or Golden Light Love of the World you came from, or might it be something else the Things have invented to control mankind? Hummmm...tings to ponder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwT_CdRWpb4
REFUSE!!!!....to be a slave.
NOWLEDGE MANDATE: There is still time for true forgiveness and redeeming of soul accounts for those who have gone over to the darker sides of deviation from rationality, sanity, morality, and true human values. Your very acts of attrition and amends will be your own saving grace. Sink your ships of fools, and hop aboard the Ship of All Good Hearts. Let all true men and women SEE with the heart, and not the wicked easily fooled mind. Those that come over to the side of Truth-Light and God/Love will be welcomed and given moar truth and real knowledge to quench the ever seeking heart, and curious mind. You can still join the growing WORLD-WIDE CREW and sail with us all as the One we all are into a different kind of future. One where fair trade and rewards are given to all who work for them, world-wide. Prosperity can be yours, and not some money-junkie's in England, France, No. America, China, So. America, Africa, Antarctica, No. Pole, Israel, ME, Asia, underground skanky rat holes, or where ever else the money-god freaks hide out at. It is only a matter of short time before the world discovers what lies in those hidden vaults they have kept secret for ages, and in the recorded by themselves family histories of how these evil things rose up to world power like they have using the false fake not worth spit, money-god evil like they have.
Call them who or what ever, their numbers and names are known thanks to the world-wide intercepted NSA-documentation that has been accumulating for the last twenty years, or moar. Just about every horrible nasty wicked thing you can imagine could be done throughout history is written and told about in the rothschild family archives, and how they devilishly conceived it all, and then eventually created it in this, the latest epoch of man's history on the Planet Earth. They think just because they keep things hidden and away from the profane, it cannot be seen by Spirit. LATWTTB! All these Things, and the things they have done, are known about. You wanna know a secret? There are no secrets.
Those who speak about the Christ principle, or of a Higher Power that carries this hearts definition of Love, should first know the definitions of the words they use in haste, and treason. No perfection coming from these keys by far, and not even trying to flapi-doodle the ego all over the place. If you seek the Spirit of the Christos within, you will see it all over without. The Christ-degree is simply, awareness. There is NO one man greater than another on a planet where they are all born equal. The collective consciousness of the Etheric Whole contains All Knowledge. Getting back to the Golden Light is easy. Just connect with it in your heart place like you do with the Internet any time. Ask, and you shall receive. Eventually, and most of the time. If not, you better worry about being in karmic debt, instead of Karmic Credit.
Tidings of comfort and joy...spirit walkers unite on Sunday Night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlfHyb397VY
We wake up as ego, and go to sleep as spirit.
Nice summary.
Exotericism is a necessitiy born of the uneven distrubution of the capacity for understanding; forgiving others for their cargo-cult conformity is a step towards forgiving one's own errors in Time. Withdrawing support is enough of an act of defiance; the door is open, and is their responsability to walk through it.
As Above, So Below.
Let he who has ears hear.
As She passes through the longest night of Her year, we reach the point of deepest yin; saturation in darkness. The Sun stands still in its path across the horizon; in three days all will know that the long wait has ended.
Isis, mourning her fallen lover, descends into the afterworld in search of him. Her Path follows ther Rule of Seven: seven realms; seven cast-off "garments"; seven "pieces" of her Lover; until She reaches the Heart of Darkness.
Grief is transformed into Joy as the Tomb becomes the Womb. Nuit will nurture the infant Sun through the long winter to come as the Wheel turns once again toward the Light.
Peace be to you.
Happy Solstice Day to you, dear heart.
Tis the birth of another new year.
Blessings and grace to ALL!
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Double post.
exactly.
ad hominems dull your blade though - unsolicited tip.
We'd be better off with a polished turd. Oh wait...
Great unchoice! Biden: I'm a Zionist:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20615.htm
Did GwB say or not say ""Stop throwing the Constitution in my face! It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!"?
http://www.counterpunch.org/2005/12/14/quot-just-a-goddamned-piece-of-pa...
John Brennan Sworn in as CIA Director Using Constitution Lacking Bill of Rightshttps://www.emptywheel.net/2013/03/08/john-brennan-sworn-in-as-cia-direc...
At least Biden is a US born American.
We defecated on the constitution of some folks.
It became a Scatology document, often used by a dark canine.
Which is a polite way of saying that a "Dark jackal shat on it".
Next bring the Federal Reserve up as a Constitutional challenge. The FR has been given powers that were not granted in the Constitution.
I am absolutely shocked that this of thing is going on
"We fucked some folks"
Obama is a CFR puppet. Nothing comes from him, ultimately. I do wonder if he ever complains that the day or week or year before he said the exact opposite telepromter speech. Either he has great emotional flexibility or he is an outright sociopath.
Obama on executive orders 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsRfrcit05M
Narcissist and chief.
The CFR itself is just a tool of someone else. Keep digging.
Anyone ever see this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHc1L1Rcpag
Go to 26:52 where they have a brainwashed Bill Clinton like he is a robot. The part where he is talking is either fake or incredibly creepy.
Narcissistic Sociopath?
Well, the white house as already come back with the message that says that judges have no authority to challenge Presidential orders. How's that for a democratic republic? Anyone thinking this is anything other than a tyrannical dictatorship?
What do you think our elected Representatives will do? Not a fucking thing. Oh, they'll hold meetings and issue statements but not one fucking thing will be done in the end. The constitution is null and void because we can't, won't or don't know, to fight back. SCOTUS is bought and paid for so don't look to them!
" ANY LAW REPUGNANT TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION IS V O I D, THIS COURT AND ALL OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE BOUND BY THAT INSTRUMENT." MARBURY V MADISON Cranch 2 1803. The Supremecy Clause. Never been overturned. Milestones
P.S. This would apply to both the fEDERAL RESERVE ACT (sEE ARTICLE I (8) (5) AND "CORPORATIONS ARE PEOPLE" which I brought up evereal years ago. Maybe I should repost it--it rather lengthy.
"What do you think our elected Representatives will do? Not a fucking thing."
Totally disagree. I expect them to fully fund his orders and decrees. Oh wait...
... And Inprison.....
Yeah right, you gonna pay for a lifetime of that?
9mm bullets cost about $.30 each. I'll pitch in for some of those but not prison time.
We boot stomped some parchment
Doesn't matter what this judge says. He's a nobody. Dictator Faggot is going to do as he pleases for the rest of his term. He knows he has a complient lapdog in Boner and Turtle Man in the House and Senate. He knows the Republicans are paid shills for the Chamber of Commerce and thus will support Obama's reshaping of America through the influx of illegals.
The only way to stop Obama and the Rhinos is through an armed coup. And nobody...including everyone on this site is going to do that.
Therefore .....if you dislike your President....you still have to keep him.
"You have no choice....they gotcha' by the balls."
George Carlin
This stupid judge does not know that in the US, is ruled regime of military-police dictatorship.
He just forgot that only one ruling party has monopoly of power in the United States.
One ruling party, which is called "The party of big business."
Obama's presidency is Unconstitutional. This Kenyan should never have gotten this far. Dumb Ass Liberals...
Write a new constitution more like. The "most powerful man in the world" or any president of any other country can grant amnesties.
Impeach? NO! IMPALE!
... the hell? Use of executive orders:
Woodrow Wilson issued 1,803
Calvin Coolidge issued 1,203
Theodore Roosevelt issued 1,081
Eisenhower issued 484
Reagan issued 381
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Obama issued 191
What does it matter anyway?
Nothing will come from it other than more hand wringing and debate, meanwhile it will end up before the supreme court, who know that their power is not seated in the constitution, but from the president's control of the bloody pulpit. Recall his public tongue lashing of them in his State of the Union speech. This court, like that of FDR, learned quickly who was in charge and changed their wicked ways. After watching the Obamacare decision, we know what to expect.
Hillary, you sly dog, I thought Oldwood was a dude all this time.
That's just mean!
I'm laughing over here, you're fun. Hillary's line about the Benghazi killings, "What difference, at this point, does it make?" just begged for me to tease you thusly!
I kind of agree with you. I also kind of hate the idea of just "giving up."
I apologize. It is too mean!
It was not too mean...LMAO.
Besides...At this point what difference does it make?
We are so fucked and there is not a damned thing we can do about it.
The people will have to hunger and feel the pangs of pain from their empty stomachs before any overthrow happens.
So we suffer now and will suffer even more later.
Yes I agree with one of Knuckles earlier posts this evening.
The beatings will continue until MORALS have improved.
Too Bad for this guy - career ender decision - hve agreat Xmas!
This judge better avoid nailguns, roof tops and shitgums.
or Cleaning ladies...
or open windows...
or open elevator doors...
or planes in general...
or public place in general...
and watch out for virusses, meteors, anything sharp and he'd better have made no mistakes on his tax form.
and if he takes care of all of that, there's a 50/50 chance he'll survive christmass... after that all bets are off...
Like the kenyan gives a flying fuck what some judge thinks, pfffft!
While we joke that he is a foreigner the POTUS does anything he wants, murdering millions of brown people, bankrupting the United States, and being the world's greatest asshole.
Brown killing brown, sweems like a worldwide phenom.
So when Bush did it was it also a phenom?
The phenom was when Bush gave $15 billion to fights AIDS in Africa dickless.
THe Mulatto hates both whites and blacks...rather ironical.