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Two NYPD Cops Murdered In "Execution Style" Ambush, Shooter Commits Suicide - Live Coverage
The simmering cold war involving the NYPD and various elements of New York's population just went nuclear when a little before 3:00 PM, reports hit that two NYPD officers were shot in their patrol car, and subsequently died, in what has been dubbed an "execution style" ambush in Brooklyn's Bed-Stuy area. The alleged shooter was chased by police and subsequently died of a self-inflicted gun wound.
Two Police Officers have been shot in the 79 pct. please pray for them
— NYPD 121st Precinct (@NYPD121Pct) December 20, 2014
According to Fox both officers died from gunshot wounds, citing city councilman Robert Cornegy. As RT reports, the shooting took place in Brooklyn outside of the Tompkins Houses at around 3pm. The shooter reportedly came out of the building before shooting the officers patrolling the area.
The suspect reportedly fled into a subway station where officers found him suffering from a gunshot wound that appeared to be self-inflicted. He was pronounced dead at the hospital, according to the Times.
The manager of a nearby liquor store told the Times that he saw the officers hunched over in their cruiser and said at least one of them looked like they were shot in the head.
A possible suspect on a stretcher at the scene via the NYP.
NYC: Man who murdered 2 NYPD cops killed his girlfriend in Baltimore this morning Picture from his Instagram Page pic.twitter.com/PFbogbCicQ
— NY Scanner (@NYScanner) December 20, 2014
Screengrabs from the alleged shooter's instagram page
The wounded officers were rushed to Woodhull Hospital in “grave” condition as at least one of them was hit in the head. The New York Post further reports that that both officers were shot in the head at point-blank range.
“It’s an execution,” a law enforcement source told The Post about the ambush.
Based to preliminary reports, the uniformed officers were working overtime as part of an anti-terrorism drill as they sat in their marked police car on a Bedford–Stuyvesant, Brooklyn, street corner.
As the NYT's David Goodman reports, the name of the shooter appears to have leaked and it is Ismail Brinsley (this is unconfirmed by the NYPD).
Both officers now dead; suspect identified by a senior police official as 28-yr-old named Brinsley. First name Ismail or Ishmael
— jdavidgoodman (@jdavidgoodman) December 20, 2014
NYPD officers murdered identified as Wenjian Lieu and Rafael Ramos.
— Rochelle Ritchie (@RochelleWJZ) December 21, 2014
Some more details about the shooter and his motives from the NY Post:
“I’m Putting Wings on Pigs Today,” a person believed to be the gunman wrote on Instagram in a message posted just three hours before the officers were shot through their front passenger window.
The post included an image of silver automatic handgun with a wooden handle. Another post showed camouflage pants and blue sneakers which matched the clothing the dead gunman was wearing as his body was carried from the scene on a stretcher.
“They Take 1 Of Ours … Let’s Take 2 of Theirs,” the post continued, signing off with, “This May Be My Final Post.”
The gunman was a fugitive who had just murdered his girlfriend in Baltimore Saturday morning, sources told The Post.
Chief Royster said the suspect opened fire on the police officers, ran up Myrtle and went into a subway station. The man died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head, Chief Royster said.
Fire Department officials said that a 911 call came in around 2:50 p.m. reporting that two people had been shot.
Charlie Hu, the manager of a liquor store at the same corner, said he saw two police officers slouched over in the front seat of their patrol car. At least one of the officers, Mr. Hu said, appeared to have been shot in the head.
The last officer killed by gunfire in the line of duty was Peter Figoski in 2011.
More details on the shooting:
Minutes after shooting the two officers, he, too, was dead. He fled to a nearby subway station, the G-train station at Myrtle and Willoughby avenues, where, as pursuing cops closed in, he shot himself on a crowded platform, sources told The Post.
“They engaged the guy and he did himself,” one investigator said of the gunman’s demise.
Both shooting scenes — above and below ground — were scenes of blood and terror.
“I heard shooting, — four or five shots,” ear-witness Derrick McKie, 49, told The Post of the cops’ tragic murder. “It sounded like from a single gun,” he said. Ambulances and police cars rushed to the scene, he said. “I seen them putting the cop in the ambulance. He looked messed up,” McKie, a barber, added. “He took a high caliber weapon to the face. He was lifeless…I couldn’t see where the holes was that, all I could see was blood. His body was lifeless.”
Modal Trigg Carmen Jimenez, 32, a social worker from Bedford-Stuyvesant, was on the subway platform when the gunman ran inside, pursued by officers.
“Everything happened so quick,” said Jimenez, who is eight months pregnant. “We were standing waiting for the G train. We heard arguing from the other end of the platform.
It looked like two cops came in there was lots of yelling and they said, ‘Everybody get down.’
Scenes from the daylight execution:
Photos from the scene:
#NYPD @NYPDnews pic.twitter.com/3nzh3IFabp
— Silver Surfer (@RobPulseNews) December 20, 2014
DETAILS: 2 #NYPD cops shot ‘execution style’ in #Brooklyn, shooter reportedly dead http://t.co/36I02NkB8H pic.twitter.com/0KfLULomQM
— RT (@RT_com) December 20, 2014
Witnesses say cops were shot in their car @ABC7NY pic.twitter.com/FzkePufUkL
— Renee Stoll (@ReneeStollABC7) December 20, 2014
at the corner of Tompkins and Vernon pic.twitter.com/kRiaZLo7q7
— ?_? (@MikeIsaac) December 20, 2014
A live webcast from the scene of the crime is available below:
NY Mayor de Blasio holds a live press conference:
Mayor @BilldeBlasio on deadly attack on NYC police officers: "It is an attack on all of us." http://t.co/zjdt2FiVvM pic.twitter.com/jY167wTz0x
— CBSN (@CBSNLive) December 21, 2014
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Al Sharpton will *not* be there shortly.
There will be costs.
Well they sit there with their windows open hoping to hear the latest gunshot in the distance, but this time they were the shot.
It appears, somewhat uniquely, that everyone involved in this particular encounter was actually armed.
The beatings will continue until morals have improved
If Obama had a son...
They probably were able to catch the guy by just following the trail of skittles that dropped out of the bag as he ran.
Tragic? No. Murder? Neither.
This is just one more battle in a long war of attrition between Us and Them.
I am Chumbawamba.
And the USSA slowing sinks into anarchy... Is anyone surprised?
DoJ's new policy will require all cops when on job be unarmed wearing "please don't shoot me, sir minority" shirts with their hands up in the air to ensure domestic equality.
It is time to send Obama and De Blasio out on ride alongs in the hood to get to know those who could hav e been their sons. Unarmed of course. "Guns" kill poeple.
Chaining folks to the wall until they freeze to death is another way to kill people. Gotta get a good degree in psychology at white people to school to learn that shit though. To each their own in US&A.
Sadly,
1) The black community will rejoice this murder.
2) Almost NONE understand how this JUSTIFIES all stereotyping and profiling.
........ really should differentiate between black people and .................
.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
How'd that cholk hold work out? Blood on hands.
When the financial world becomes unglued and the crazy sheeple figure out the greed and corruption of the bankers. Well.... lets just say I wouldn't want to be a banker, any where in the world. Especially NY.
Remain calm
These people will have no clue who is responsible nor are they capable of understanding macro economics. When the SHTF all they will do is go after whitey....period.
Your arrogance will lead to your demise as you underestimate your opponents.
I do not know what you know. I have absolutely no clue as to the information to which you are privy, whom you know, or what you actually do..
But I do know one thing as an absolute certainty. The converse of that statement is true as you have no clue as to whom I know or what I know or that which I may be cooking in my kitchen. All you know about me is a persona which I present online.
Really you haven't a clue about just who I am or of that which I am capable.
Ruminate on that for awhile, Mr. Arrogance.
I teach the homeless.
T.T. Well put sir! (and have a Merry Christmas)!
Thanks.
This homeless man comes over with some sand with "gold" in it. Now I told him that it was Pyrite and showed him my sample of Gold in Black Sand. However he was persistent. So I told him that I would make an Aqua Regia and immerse his sample in it. Then I need the Stannous Chloride to test that for the Gold presence. (I am sure it will be negative...but...)
So I am cooking up, tonight, some Stannous Chloride Solution to test for Gold in Aqua Regia.
It is soluble in Water at 0.893 grams per Cubic Centimeter at OoC. But it needs to be in solution with HCl as it suffers hydrolysis when exposed to Water. But this problem can be solved by not exposing it to excess heat (over 100oC), Oxygen, and if it is stored on a bed of Tin.
Now as I go about searching for some Tin which I may have lying around here, somewhere...
But whom knows what I will cook up tommorow night...
And may you also have a joyous holiday.
Awesome. With chemistry, damn near anything is possible. Have fun...
Alchemy, no?
But where do these possibilities take us?
To the Emergency Room if we are not careful?
2 Kops killed execution style; Who Benefits? ....Perfect way to introduce draconian gun control by making cops even more anti gun. (except for them, of course)
Time for Obama, Holder and Al Not-So-Sharpton to STFU and go into hiding because the deaths of these two officers are on their hands...
tell me, did the suspect speak manchurian?
11th grade chemisty, big fucking deal numbnuts.
<Racial
<Inequality
Yeah yeah yeah......you teach the homeless to make bombs in your kitchen. I've heard your bullshit before, I'm quaking in my boots.
But if you want a shot at the title, give it your best shot anytime, tough guy.
I figured something stupid like this would happen. Sigh. So much for peaceful protests, moral higher ground, etc.
But I did notice that in this photo, (pulled from one of the tweets in the story & enlarged) it looks like there is a bullet hole in the killer's jacket on his right arm just below the shoulder. Did he really shoot himself? Guess like most things happening these days we will never really know.
Photo:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5VG6FaIMAAT1Zz.png:small
He was pronounced dead at the hospital... - ...you can be DAMN sure he would not arrive alive at the hospital.
I figured something stupid like this would happen. Sigh. So much for peaceful protests, moral higher ground, etc.
"To deal morally with an immoral enemy is, it itself, immoral." - Some Famous dude.
I'm just going to assume they were selling loose cigarettes to the public; and we all know that's a capital crime.
I summon Mpizzie, a cop and a hedger, to make his second post on ZeroHedge and give us his take on this tragedy.
That guy got absolutely owned after posting that, dont think hes coming back anytime soon lol
That is photo is kinda strange as it appears that the bald guy applying pressure had his arm chopped off a few inches above his hand. What is the pink dangeling thing on the woman police officers jacket?
Are you sure that isn't a button?
Gonna wait for the facts to be confirmed.
Too much BS going down these past 13 years.
There was a 'drill' going on. Notice any pattern?
Got drilled alright.
Re: "Gonna wait for the facts to be confirmed." < AMEN. Everybody is too quick to make pronouncements, dragging in their own baggage or pushing an agenda.
More like Roto Rootered...That sounds like a job...for a Plumber?
Now Nixon's Pl;umbers at the Watergate were something else.
But this is also just something else...right down the toilet, flushed as human waste.
Was there a "DRILL" going on, seriously?
" the uniformed officers were working overtime as part of an anti-terrorism drill as they sat in their marked police car"
That's what is written in the above article...
Kelly Thomas, Eric Garner, John Williams, John Boyd, Luis Rodriguez...are rejoicing.
The NYPD just learned today that war cannot long stay asymmetrical.
The banksters need to repay us.
Not NY, but Jose Guerena
http://www.policestateusa.com/2013/jose-guerena-settlement/
Suffice to say that America is a deeply messed up society.
Says the Castrated North man.
I use "man" loosely.
Eunuchs typically don't reproduce; our second is on its way.
Also, if "keeping the race pure" translates itself to having someone like you for a son, then I am happy to have taken the alternative route.
EML
Really? Your looking at the future of your native Norway if you keep importing dead wood from the southern hemisphere at the current rate.
Last I checked, the only person to have committed a shooting atrocity involving summary executions on Norwegian soil was a man by the name of Anders Behring Breivik.
And I am very cognizant of the fact that once it could just as well have been me and my wife being present on Utøya that day.
Over simplified. Keep drilling down to the juicy stuff.
The Norwegians lived on very scant arable soil. They were cut off from their neighbours by mountains and fjords.
They quickly reached overpopulation and with no fresh blood they became inbred. This allowed hidden recessive genes to be expressed. Because of the limited resources these weaklings were ruthlessly culled. By putting a piece of fat in the infants mouth and leaving it out in the cold.
This cleansed the genepool of lethal recessive genes, and combined with their dueling laws allowed the Norwegains to become the Norsemen. The same Norse blood that has conquored the world.
The successful predatory outbreeding was a consequence of the Cleansing of the genes.
You are continuing the process and absorbing recessives again.
You are, quite literally, insane. I can't resist humoring this sort of twisted logic though.
Seeing as how white supremacy advocates like yourself usually represent the least intelligent, the least cultured and the least educated segments of the "white" population, wouldn't that render you nutjobs the contemporary example of these "regressive genes expressed by inbreeding" you made mention of?
So, what was the cure you proposed for solving this sort of "lethal weakness" again?
Where did you get that from?
There are less and less whites in Africa and more and more Aliens in Europe. Who is colonising whom? The whites have become impotent with ostentatious guilt.
If you cull the weaklings of any species it becomes stronger, if you do not it degenerates. These are facts.
It is only in this age of petroleum abundance that we can keep the weak alive. But that too will pass.
Either we control the process of evolution or it will control us cruelly and randomly.
Either we control the process of evolution or it will control us cruelly and randomly.
If you cull the weaklings of any species it becomes stronger, if you do not it degenerates. These are facts.
It is only in this age of petroleum abundance that we can keep the weak alive. But that too will pass.
So you are promoting Eugenics?
What you just wrote came right out of the National Socialist Party's handbook.
Hell. Even Hitler himself wrote about it in "Mein Kanpf"
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
Furthermore the Nazis had the attitude that some were just using more resources than contributing. They were called the Useless Eaters.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_Nazi_Germany#U
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_unworthy_of_life
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics
Yes. Joseph Goebbels would be proud.
I guess a few can be that blind to their own hypocrisy.
Gee. I have no clue as to where white supremacy may have been inferred....right.
I guess a few can be that shallow.
But I really do not believe that it is shallowness or an inability to infer.
YOU ARE BOTH DUPLICIT and DISHONEST.
First I do not believe that you are a white supremacist. However I do believe that you are POSING as a White Supremacist in order to discredit the rational publishers here. That is just another form of DUPLICITY.
You are just too..how shall we say...yeah...TOO TRANSPARENT as nobody can be that stupid.
You come loaded with baggage, assumptions, inaccurate extrapolations and stereotyping.
You have fallen over yourself in haste to regurgitate the propaganda that has been instilled in you since childhood Tall Tom.
The direction of the shape of humanity is the work of women. Hence their hysteria at rape. If the Quality of their offspring were not an issue then stolen sex would be no more repugnant than a stolen kiss.
So eugenetics IS practiced. Not everybody gets to breed. Men do not even have the "right" to breed. They have to be invited to breed, which is eugenics.
Eugenetics is a fact of life.
EML Why limit it to a shooting atrocity? Just this past autumn one of your newly enlightened Somilian imports returned to his home country and killed 25 people in a suicide car bomb attack in Mogadishu. There is even a nice picture of him standing next to your exPM smiling. You must be so proud. I wonder how long it's going to take Oslo to become like Malmö or Södertälje Sweden where there are daily car bombings and burnings brought to swedes courtesy of the enlightened ones. It's become so common place now that the Swedish press dosnt, or will not for political reasons, report on it any longer .
How is Sweden, those muzzies loving them some blondes I hear.. Man up bitch.
Palmyourself
It seems muzzies have a penchant for raping eight year olds. I wouldn't exactly call that "loving", or maybe you would.
"Gotta get a good degree in psychology at white people to school to learn that shit though. To each their own in US&A."
Are you drunk?
Think ol' James blew a gasket. Is not NYC a gun free zone? Bloomberg, que paso? Ten bucks says the shooter is a lefty wingnut like the rest of them. More proof that progressives plus guns equals needless bloodshed.
More proof that progressives plus guns equals needless bloodshed.
Yeah all those progressives killing tens of thousands of civilians in ME for the past decade.
So who the hell are you talking about now, Obama, ISIS, the mullah's, the Saudis?
Its hard to keep up with you schizophrenic progs...first its guns, then its global warming, then its cops sitting in their fucking car that are killing people, not the actual guy who killed three people.
If you had better reading comprehension skills it would not be so hard to keep up. Take a class or something.
first its guns, then its global warming, then its cops sitting in their fucking car that are killing people, not the actual guy who killed three people.
As usual you interject a bunch of things I have not commented on. Im starting to wonder if there is some truth to what zuckerberg said about old people, y'all brains turned to mush or something. Hopefully it's just idle minds that go that way.
My reading comprehension skills are fine.
"As usual you interject a bunch of things I have not commented on."
You interjected a bunch of bullshit about the ME that has absolutely nothing to do with a guy shooting someone in Baltimore and then going to NYC and shooting two cops.
Would you two just buttfuck and get it over with! The sexual tension is palpable. Maybe I'm drunk...
Well, Banging7;
I have thought many times about posting the same thing you just did to some of the fights here in fight club. Perhaps this was not the best time though... Whatever.
"Fighting on the internet is like competing tin the Special Olympics, you might win, but you are still retarded"
~ some guy
You interjected a bunch of bullshit about the ME that has absolutely nothing to do with a guy shooting someone in Baltimore and then going to NYC and shooting two cops.
Actually I was responding (with quote) to a poster above. They made a blanket statement, I responded with one.
In no way do I support anyone shooting police for any supposed reason.
"Actually I was responding (with quote) to a poster above. They made a blanket statement, I responded with one."
His statement is true, here it is in toto:
"Think ol' James blew a gasket. Is not NYC a gun free zone? Bloomberg, que paso? Ten bucks says the shooter is a lefty wingnut like the rest of them. More proof that progressives plus guns equals needless bloodshed."
Is it not part of the "progressive agenda" to ban or regulate or otherwise restrict or inhibit legal gun ownership? Where did this happen, NYC or the moon? Could not a case be made that "progressives" actually want a more authoritarian police state requiring moar cops instead of people legally owning guns and cleaning out the rats themselves as they surface from the sewers?
And where exactly did he say anything about the fucking Middle East in any of that?
Is it not part of the "progressive agenda" to ban or regulate or otherwise restrict or inhibit legal gun ownership?
These are three - thought connected - separate things, to your mind they are the same I'm guessing - to rational people they are not. However, there's something about 'well regulated' in your constitution, I know that's a real can of worms though..
Where did this happen, NYC or the moon?
Yeah 'cause NYC is alone in gun violence.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/12/16/manhunt-con...
Could not a case be made that "progressives" actually want a more authoritarian police state requiring moar cops
Could not a case be made that "progressives" actually want a less authoritarian police state requiring less cops?
instead of people legally owning guns and cleaning out the rats themselves as they surface from the sewers?
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the man who perpetrated these two murders used a gun. And if I'm not mistaken further, I believe the police he shot also were armed with guns.
And where exactly did he say anything about the fucking Middle East in any of that?
I know it's hard to keep up, but I was inferring that if we look at recent history progressives are not the biggest perpetrators of wanton gun violence (dear God don't bring up abortion).
Again, you over step your bounds, this is becoming a habit with you, especially being a "progressive" and a foreigner.
"Is it not part of the "progressive agenda" to ban or regulate or otherwise restrict or inhibit legal gun ownership?
These are three - thought connected - separate things, to your mind they are the same I'm guessing - to rational people they are not. However, there's something about 'well regulated' in your constitution, I know that's a real can of worms though.."
They are not separate.
The latest term of art for well regulated for the "progressive" statist mindset of academia seems to imply the government is the one doing the regulating. Thats not the case at all, they were highly suspicious of a standing army answerable to a "King" ie President. It simply meant arms in the hands of the people as a whole, trained in the use of them and maintained in good working order, to be called upon if needed.
And we are and they are.
I can give you countless quotes from Thomas Jefferson to Patrick Henry to Paine, Lee, Hamilton, Mason etc. How many would you like?
"Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the man who perpetrated these two murders used a gun. And if I'm not mistaken further, I believe the police he shot also were armed with guns."
You are wrong as usual, it was three murders, that we know of so far, the first in Baltimore so I will go out on a limb and say she was not armed or was shot in the back of the head because this guy is a fucking douchebag who has no desire to stand toe to toe with an armed man who see's him coming.
It simply meant arms in the hands of the people as a whole, trained in the use of them and maintained in good working order, to be called upon if needed.
In other words, regulated by some body - specifically in this case the state. Or were hamilton / jefferson etc. referring to a mystical entity? Regulated by God? lol
You can argue this stupid point all you like, the end result is as you say - trained and maintained. If people want guns I don't see an issue, just so long as it's not a bunch of fuckheads running around endangering everyone else (As well established in a plethora of people accidentally shooting themselves, kids etc.).
You are wrong as usual, it was three murders, that we know of so far, the first in Baltimore
Actually it was you who specified NYC, a common refrain among people like you is that NY gun laws (along with loathing of that 'progressive' [NOT TO BE CONFUSED I PUT IN QUOTES EVEN!!] bloomberg) are particularly egregious and will lead to events such as this. Unless of course Baltimore was recently moved to NYC and I was unaware.
Far I as I know Maryland has different gun laws than NY..
"In other words, regulated by some body - specifically in this case the state. Or were hamilton / jefferson etc. referring to a mystical entity?"
So, lets take this "progressive" interpretation prima facie for just a moment, for shits & giggles. The state under consideration is the individual states, composed of who & what? The individual citizens of that state, regulated by its governor. That premise (you chose) specifically excludes the federal government (the central government, if you like) from ANY actionable authority regarding guns within the borders of any state. Thats why we have always had state militias.
It also makes any actions by the central government prohibiting/banning or regulating ANY firearms...very much illegal doesn't it? Meaning, the "assault weapons ban" was in fact, un-constitutional and illegal, they have no legal authority in this regard by law.
By the authority of the sword is another matter entirely of course, which is what the founders were talking about, that is not a matter of law but a matter of force.
"Far I as I know Maryland has different gun laws than NY.."
Yes, it does...again...now, why is that? ;-)
STOP IT..
ALL YOUS!
Fuck off. This is Fight Club.
It also makes any actions by the central government prohibiting/banning or regulating ANY firearms...very much illegal doesn't it? Meaning, the "assault weapons ban" was in fact, un-constitutional and illegal, they have no legal authority in this regard by law.
This issue is not an interest of mine (you are the one who routinely brings it up) + my superficial understanding of the US constitution would lend no insight into it, but as far as I can tell there is no good reason for the federal government to be involved in gun regulation.
The document you are talking about (the Bill of Rights) does not contain anything granting authority to Washington DC from the people or the states, to the federal government. It was specifically written as prohibitions of what that central authority being constituted CANNOT do.
I invite anyone to find one or try to infer one!
There is no passage anywhere in the original amendements to the Constitution (that would be the Bill of Rights, our recognized rights, not bestowed by any central authority, BORN WITH) that allows the central government to do anything to us, the people.
Its all prohibitive to any federal authority it discusses, none of it is empowering to any federal authority and it spells it out 1 thru 10.
It was written like that for a reason.
I think part of the friction in your dialogue has to do usage of the same labels in different context. When I hear the word 'progressive,' I think of 'Neoliberal' or 'Psychopath' in the context of international affairs. In the context of local government, it's often trotted out to mean something like 'innovative' or 'forward thinking.' The Greens (for example) are skilled in the strategic use of semantic ambiguity to achieve ulterior social policy goals, often referring to themselves as 'progressive' when they actually mean 'collectivist' or 'totalitarian.' Double meanings and unclear context are old traps. It can help to smooth discussion if we take extra care with wordcraft and recognise that everyone is at a different stage of awareness.
+1 on recognizing the different stages of awareness and there is no dishonor in admitting I have grown in my awareness of others concerns.
But I said long ago this was the line that will never be crossed, ever. I have bent here & there to be "social" to the breaking point and now I'm snapping back.
I have always put progressive in quotes because they lie about what they are, most of them are statist-socialists and they just don't want to admit it, so they cower behind "progressive". I have never hidden any my views from anyone and I have more respect for the Flakmeisters of the world because they don't hide it, even though respect does not mean I agree with their position.
So now the snap back, they will not admit their policies of caudling & comforting (so they can reap great wealth, power & political rewards) has destroyed generations of black & white & red families, with the same gusto as they accuse me of enabling people of influence of taking it all away from them.
Are they serious people?
They can't be.
As soon as they start with "the state" will protect & provide FOR YOU, everyone knows (or should know) what that entails.
It ain't rocket science ;-)
Re: "Are they serious people?" < They are, but only to the extent that their interests are vested. Rarely do we hear a government worker speak out against corruption. The tone in your typical government office is one of mutual nudge-nudge-wink-wink complicity. What they deny is the fickleness of their State. It will always take care of them...until it doesn't. "First they came..." Flak's bubble will burst someday.
Indeed, I (we) can't even get them to understand that simple thing "First they came..."
Yes, its all fun & games, skittles & unicorns as the abuse of power is heaped on those they disagree with, until one day it turns on them and they look to their left & their right and no one is there, its just them and it. In that blinking of an eye, just before their face meets the pavement and their hands are shackled behind their backs, all of what we said will come rushing back into their consciousness.
Only then will they know what we meant.
Asshole.
Fuck you minge
Yawn
James_Cole -
After another month has gone by, I see that you are still a vibrating dildo with dead batteries, just a dildo!
University of south florida is about as white as it gets.
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/12/psychologists-cia-torture...
Though if you're white and want impunity to torture folks to your hearts content you also need an asian to sign off on it. So much paperwork & rules for poor whitey!
"University of south florida is about as white as it gets. "
And, tell us Old Wise One, were two people shot in the head, while sitting in their car at the university today?
Just sayin...
Caucasian's are the only ones capable of torture?
I seldom give a shit what race somebody is, but after reading some James Cole rants, I can't help wondering if he's black, or a white that swallowed the "white guilt" BS ball deep.
I've thankfully never suffered "white guilt" syndrome, but white rage is viable.
Human rage is the only logical response to the devolution of our society. No matter your race or creed the Fascism of the 21st Century should make your blood boil.
To the best of my knowledge James is a white "progressive", possibly an ex-pat, now living in lily-white Switzerland, who enjoys stirring the shit up back here.
He derives some sort of sadistic pleasure from it, not unlike the fascists of old.
Thanks. If, card carrying Swiss, required to have a gun, that would be funny...
Yes, they have quite the little dooby-doo going on over there.
Not sure if the Swiss bankers can buy their way out of "service to .gov" in order to take their "assault rifle" home like the common Swiss do.
But it would be something worth investigating ;-)
Hands up!!!
Is that not the plan?
Shh, not everyone is in on the secret... Don't upset the sheeple because we need them to keep working so we can extract taxes...
The Mayor of New York just lost his police protection...
Who's gonna come out and protest this? And for what side?
I read somewhere there have been over 10,000black on black murders in America since Trayvonn.
In Chicago alone!
Seriously though, they call those inner city shitholes deathtraps for a reason!
Minor social issues trump important ones everytime don't they? What started as a meaningful national discusssion about the militarization of the police and the loss of liberty is now concerened about the rate at which black people kill each other...
I could care less about some thug who got shot because he stole shit and rushed a cop. I'm much more concerened about Barney Fife's new Tank and M$ carbine. but shit that may get us somewhere productive huh? lets talk about gay marriage and abortion instead.
"I could care less about some thug who got shot because he stole shit and rushed a cop. I'm much more concerened about Barney Fife's new Tank and M$ carbine. but shit that may get us somewhere productive huh?"
Man ain't that the truth.
The hardest thing to break through in this is, "they" are not going to be there when you need them. And I don't want (and I think I can speak for the general population of all stripes) a fucking cop stationed at my damned door or following me around or asking some dude on the corner for "his papers" in order to protect me from him.
Kafka meet Orwell, that some dude on the corner could be me...lol.
"and I think I can speak for the general population of all stripes"
You nailed it. For the most part people, regardless of their political affliliation, seem to dislike this police state bullshit (wonder why?), and so out march the talking heads to race-bait and distract, with the idiots obligingly lapping it up. Divide et impera, same as it ever was.
On a side note, I've only been on here a year so maybe you can lend me some perspective...is the drop in IQ on this site a new trend, or ongoing for awhile now? In particular I see quite a few comments that parrot Fox News propaganda verbatim...
The drop in IQ is noticable. I even noticed ZH "baiting it up" a couple times by mentioning black this or white that, which has nothing to do with the militarization of local cops as I think we can all agree that cops come in all skin colors.
Fox or Huffpo, pick your poison (even though both are poison).
But pick one dammit!...it is what is expected of us ;-)
One can hope...
Maybe the Nation of Islam will substitute.
Anarchy? ANARCHY? Look at that govenment response. Look at all the fucking cops and the militaries and the bureaucracies. This is NOT anarchy. This is the manic and amplified phase of statism. people getting choked to death for bieing entrepreneurs? fuck anarchy. this is nazi america. Top down control grid jack booted land of the free.
Tell it brother. Perhaps people have forgotten when an entire city was put on lockdown as the police forced people out of their homes at gunpoint, just as a fucking trial run.
And nobody said shit.
Hell, they welcomed them in! "Here Rambo, I think there's a terrorist in my panty drawer (wink wink he's so dreamy)."
WRONG, Meat Hammer! I distinctly heard "U-S-A" bleated repeatedly.
/So there.
Please,
You sound as ignorant as them.
Garner was NOT killed for selling cigs.
He was killed while resisting arrest.
Chokehold, heart attack, profiling, discrimination, police state, legitimacy of arrest, aside.
Keep it honest.
no. he was killed while resisting arrest for selling cigarettes. Thats it. Klled for selling cigs.
Garner probably had cigarettes missing from his pack and, therefore, obviously he didn't smoke them. He sold them. Just shows how desperate the cops are to blame the victim in each of these cases.
The IRS put the cops in the postition of being tax agents. The IRS strips us all of enough money for them to pay for its own agents. By the way, how much money are we talking about in terms of lost tax revenue re Garner? What about all the banksters that owe money?
+1
It should be pointed out that its New York state taxes not being collected by the mayor & governor that they had the problem with, which led to Garners death or the cops even being called.
No, its not a defense of the IRS at all, we all know what vermin they are, regular Sheriff of Nottingham types.
Just for the record ;-)
I agree with you but it is not the place of the police to do the work of the IRS. Yes the IRS are parasitic vermin, and they are such goons at this point that they are criminalizing the whole population.
The whole tax structure has all the signs and symptoms of drug addiction. Everywhere they go things decay and keep getting worse. They cannot control their appetite for money, so they eat into any structure of opportunity to for one more bite. They produce nothing of any value, and indeed contribute to socio-economic destruction.
They have to go the way of the dodo bird. And they can take their twin hatchling the Fed with them. They were spawned at the same time by the same people. Although I use that last word very loosely.
Damn right FDL, they have become tax collectors and revenue generators. I recently was pulled over a block from my home (where taxes are quite high) and ticketed for violation that was 100% tax Related on my vehicle..... And I had paid the taxes, I had just not affixed the updated sticker that showed I had complied. Fuck those kind of LEO's, they are cogs in a machine of tax and revenue generation. How about some protecting and serving? And if needed, reminding folks politely of their bullshit tax obligations.
The IRS has a cut on every peice of property and still expanding. They siphon money from our wages and increase the rates at will. Their highway robbery racket--tolls--was only put in place during WW2 for additional war revenue with the understanding that they would close at war's end. Would somebody please tell the morons at IRS that the war ended.
It's not the fault of the NYPD that the IRS has wormed its way into LE. They figure they can get a free ride by letting NYPD do their work and still keep taxes. The police brass should have told the IRS to buzz off. They should now claw back every penny the IRS took from the NYPD in the course of tax collecting.
The IRS have enough of their own agents, and if they don't what are they doing with all our money? How much money did Corzine pay back? Did cops get sent to cuff him? Why not? Wouldn't he have a lot more money than Garner? How about all the other big shots who can't touch a dime without pulling a fast one? The NYPD needs to divorce the IRS and fast. Kick them to the curb.
Agreed THX. And there were how many of them involved with 'subduing' Mr. Garner? One guy with his MMA on, and how many others with knees in the back & so forth? The thing is, this Shit goes on every single day around the nation. Mr. Garner just so happened to be a member of the preferred minority class in a the city of Al Sharpton. Kinda hard to escape media scrutiny there... But how many are the number that get NO media attention, save for maybe some independents or Alex Jones if it happens to cross his desk? These jacked-up Compliance Freaks have been on a rip-roaring F'ing tear all over the country - for YEARS NOW... It's tears, parades, speeches and 'honor' for them when they meet an unfortunate end. For Mr. 90 year old who gets an 'accidental' no-knock raid and a flying hot-lead tune up by a gaggle of SEAL team 6 wannabes, he gets 'F-U', and Die...
he was killed while resisting arrest for selling cigarettes. Thats it. Klled for selling cigs.
he was killed while resisting arrest for selling cigarettes. Thats it. Klled for selling cigs rather than having been given a notice to appear ticket. There fixed it for ya.
A Homeless man and his homeless friend in a wheelchair were jaywalking.
A San Diego Sheriff Deputy in his squad car, gunned his engine, attempted to plow them down.
I watched this happen. No video. But I saw it.
They really want to kill these people.
Then they will label it as a suicide.
I do not believe that this guy shot himself. He was just shot down for killing a cop. No trial is necessary. Who cares about a "Cop Killer" anyway, right?
That is the biggest problem. The authorities have become totally lacking any modicum of credibility. They have abused their position way too much...for far too long.
Technology is now catching them.
Now I could have filed a complaint about that San Diego Sheriff Deputy who tried to run down the homeless. But without evidence it would be considered UNSUBSTANTIATED. All that I would accompolish is to piss off the cops. Then I'd be their next target?
Yet with VIDEO EVIDENCE they are declaring these incidents as UNSUBSTANTIATED or JUSTIFIABLE.
Whom are you to believe? Them? Or your LYING EYES?
THX 1178 -
Few of you dumb fucks has ever had to deal with a large perp that did NOT want to follow directions/requests. Size is everything in the cop v perp world.
Big perp v average cop, might need more coaxing ala tazer, baton. Small cop, big perp might need even more coaxing, restricted hold, pepper spray. What was the crime? Misdemeanor sales, then resisting arrest. (Does NOT require violence), mere resistance of any kind will do.
Four or five cops v large perp..... I think they could have done it without the 'arm-bar'. (Not allowed by many agencies due to the crushing effects on the larynx)
My point is that most of the comments are from dumb fucks that have NO actual knowledge of what did occure let alone any personal experience of having gone thru this kind of exchange. Did you hear the audio?
I would NOT have done it the way they did, but he still would have gone down.
THX, he died because he was too fucking stupid to follow simple directions and his obesity and handout lifestyle killed him, with a little coaxing on the larynx.
And Chumbawambat is another dumb fuck that is tough on the internet and a pussy face to face.
Few of you dumb fuck cops ever stopped to think that the laws you were enforcing were unjust and meant to control the free american people like we were cattle. He was a perp only because he was perpetrating an extremely unjust law. this does not make him a bad guy... thi makes him a good guy, and true free american living in what was once the land of the free. But Cops are insecure and fearful and join the police force only to establish social dominance over others. this is who you are too (i can tell by your post). Resisting arrest is the morally upright thing to do when your country has been taken over by insecure Catholics and Jews and Italians and Irishmen and Chinese and Latinos and Arabs and russians and Mediterraneans and Eastern Europeans who consider America the land of Opportunity (meaning opportunity to establish social dominance hierarchies) rather than the land of the free which it is. Freedom from social dominance hierarchy and opportunity to establish social dominance hierarchy arent just slightly different... they are exact opposites and totally irreconcileable. If there is going to be a civil war in this country, it will be for this reason... so us protestants can finally take back our country.
Oh, I deal with large perps that don't want to follow directions or requests quite a bit. They're over-entitled, obnoxious, arrogant, low in intelligence, dangerous and have a thuggish propensity. And they're called cops. One can't use physical violence against their numerous trespasses without unleashing unpalatable consequences, so the recourse is in their corporate courts where they have the hometeam advantage. But then when you don't play along to their rules and start suing errant judges who are merely part of the protection racket, one gets branded a "domestic terrorist". Then the real fun starts.
It's an honor to be so feared by the Leviathan.
So, you want to meet face to face, pig? Let me know when you're coming to the Bay Area. Pick a time and date. Let me know when and where ==> fudpacker@hotmail.com
Bring your taser if you want, but it won't help you.
I am Chumbawamba.
he was not actually selling lose cigarettes and had just broken up a fight, which is what the cops were responding to.
They were attempting to arrest him without PC for any crime, irrespective of what they might have come up with.
Doesn't mean he should have resisted, of course, but it was excessive force following what looks to have been an unlawful arrest.
Same thing happened when Chris Dorner took out a few local cops - tied up LE agencies in three of the largest counties (population-wise) in California. Cops gotta make the streets safe for cops; everyone else is on their own.
Anarchy is the legacy of LBJ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964
Do they get a ticket if they didn't have their seat belts on?
this doesnt lead towards anarchy,quite the opposite...
Anarchy is better than whatever system we have now. I'm just wondering when a smart white guy will get the job done with an acetylene tank, a van, and electric door locks.
Poor man's car bomb, as featured on 1000 Ways to Die when some chick blew her own face off on accident.
I'm tired of the total lack of effort these would be terrorists are putting into their plans. Tired and discouraged. With Breaking Bad being such a big hit, you'd think criminals would get smarter and more, you know, capable.
Most criminals are stupid. Besides mostly the stupid get caught. The clever criminals get away with crime.
It is the "Low Lying Fruit" Theory in action.
It takes way too much energy and effort to capture a clever criminal. The resources are better allocated to go after the easy meat.
Thus you will see that sucessful criminals become more prevalent as the many hoardes of the less clever are jailed.
Law Enforcement targets the easy harvest as their budgets are limited. It is a matter of economy after all.
Sucessful criminals just become Stock Brokers, Real Estate Brokers, Trust Managers, Lawyers, Banksters and Politicians.
It just takes cleverness and more Technical Expertese to become successful at crime.
And they do get away with it, don't they?
Legitamized crime...
Despotism NOT anarchy. Fascism NOT anarchy. Tyranny NOT anarchy.
The word you where looking for was Chaos.
"And the USSA slowing sinks into anarchy... Is anyone surprised?"
Are you implying Putin should arm the minorities of the US (as a retribution for the hassles the DC mafia created in and around Russia)?
It was the gun's fault.
I thought guns were banned in Warren Wilhelm's city?
Copycat.
Fort Apache, The Bronx (1981, movie trailer c/o YouTube)
At least the SOB did himself so lawyers don't get to feed.
It's a jungle out there.
At least that is what was reported. Who knows what really happened when the first (rather disturbed) police at the scene found the "executioner".
It is quite possible that they executed him.
Nobody will care. Even Lore does not believe in trials and juries. His post demonstrates his underlying attitude. They COST TOO MUCH. That is what the LIBERAL believes.
The Cop Killer is immediately guilty and a piece of shit, convicted by what the police report. There is NO PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENSE.
Lore supports the POLICE STATE.
It is just too expensive for everybody to be free.
I beg to differ. My post was rash and cynical and uncontextualised, so you're right to make me backtrack. Permit me to quote Sir Robert Peel (among others): "Not only must justice be done; it must be SEEN to be done." I want to believe in a FAIR trial and liberty and justice for ALL. Sadly, we are witnessing erosion of faith in all our institutions, for various reasons about which ZH contributors have written at great length.
Fair enough. (I knew better but this is Fight Club after all.)
We reject our controllers but have been programmed from an early age to believe in that control.
@jsbach What gun? It looks like a sandwich to me.
How many times will they use the "hate crime" phrase on this one?
Probably never...only melanin deficient people can hate.
"Them" being police, or negros ?
How about niggers vs. not niggers? That basically sums it up.
I am Chumbawamba.
You are a drunk, sick, fuck. Why don't you log off while you still have a gossimer's thread of credibility. You sick fuck.
Govbot
What the fuck is wrong with you?
You used to be interesting, now you're just an....
Asshole.
lol
Move along, shill.
I am not "Us" or "Them".
Hay there, thas rayciss, you forgot the purple drank!
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Shooter ... black Muslim ... that means a jailhouse convert to the "Religon of Death".