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Watch As NYPD Officers Turn Their Backs On NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio

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Just over two weeks ago, as NYC was turmoiling in protests following the Eric Garner chokehold death and the subsequent acquittal of the police officer involved, none other than NYC's mayor Bill de Blasio - a person whose job is to seek to impartially preserve the peace at all costs - tried to score populist points by disparaging none other than the NY Police Department.

This is how the NY Post summarized things, granted with a dose of hyperbole:

Determined not to let a crisis go to waste, the mayor has spent the last two days cranking up the volume and the vitriol of his anti-cop agenda. Predictably, he trots out his son, Dante, to put a personal spin on police-black relations, saying he is fearful the biracial teen will end up in a confrontation with a cop.

 

Imagine that. The city is in turmoil over the Staten Island case and the mayor throws gasoline on the fire by painting the entire police force as a bunch of white racist brutes. Has he no shame?

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We need a mayor to stand up with and for us,” police union head Pat Lynch said yesterday. He said his members feel as if de Blasio is “throwing them under the bus.”

It got worse. Demonstrating just how frayed the relationship between the NYC mayor's office is and the city's law enforcement had gotten, the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association issued a statement for the use of police officers requesting that Mayor de Blasio and City Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito not attend their funerals. Here is the text of PBA's request, courtesy of Truthrevolt:

I, as a New York City police officer, request that Mayor Bill de Blasio and City Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito refrain from attending my funeral services in the event that I am killed in the line of duty.

 

Due to Mayor de Blasio and Speaker Mark-Viverito’s consistent refusal to show police officers the support and respect they deserve, I believe that their attendance at the funeral of a fallen New York City police officer is an insult to that officer’s memory and sacrifice.

Which leads us to today, and the latest nonsenical murder, in which a lone crazed gunman, Ismaaiyl Brinsley, executed in cold blood and in broad daylight two NYPD officers as "revenge" for Eric Garner and Michael Brown. In other words, vigilante justice which, according to some, was encouraged by the mayor himself. One such person was former New York Governor George Pataki who in a tweet moments ago, blamed the murder of officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos on the "divisive anti-cop rhetoric" of mayor de Blasio and outgoing attorney general Eric Holder.

So just more politics and attempts to score political talking points on the back of yet another human tragedy? Yes, but nothing compared to the reception that de Blasio got earlier today when on his way to the press conference to address the execution-style shooting of two NYPD officers, all the present police officers very visibly and demonstratively turned their back on him.

 

Dear mayor Bill, a piece of advice: if you can hire the guy who is building the moat around the White House, you probably should for a comparably treatment around city hall (and/or your personal residence). Because if you ever need to dial 911, don't be surprised when it goes straight to voicemail.

 

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Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:32 | 5577107 thedrickster
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So begins the Reactionary Spring. Not a moment too soon IMHO.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:37 | 5577124 TeamDepends
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Read Matt Bracken's "What I Saw At The Coup" and we will have a healthy discourse. Getting REAL!

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:41 | 5577138 Skateboarder
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Queensryche put it best:

"Who do you trust when everyone's a crook?"

Queensryche - Revolution Calling

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:09 | 5577214 Lore
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Who names their kid "Dante?" 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:15 | 5577242 max2205
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Unleash the Kraken!

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:36 | 5577287 LetThemEatRand
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A cop, the mayor of NY, and a black guy walk into a bar.

Bartender leaves.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:06 | 5577355 old naughty
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calling Tom Selleck...

This would not happen if you are Police Commissioner.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:28 | 5577370 Lore
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Ironic that the thickest pro-cop propaganda is set in the midst of what seems in reality to be one of the nation's most troubled departments.  Selleck's moralism seems increasingly glib.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 06:31 | 5577598 Keyser
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Time for Obama, Holder and Al Not-So-Sharpton to STFU and go into hiding because the deaths of these two officers are on their hands...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 08:04 | 5577668 SWRichmond
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Dear mayor Bill, a piece of advice: if you can hire the guy who is building the moat around the White House, you probably should for a comparably treatment around city hall (and/or your personal residence). Because if you ever need to dial 911, don't be surprised when it goes straight to voicemail.

Dear NYPD: get real jobs in the private sector, bringing a useful product to market at a competitive price, raising everyone's standard of living in the process.

If you can.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 08:07 | 5577673 negative rates
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Dude there is war going on out there, they would rather wipe your face on the street rather than give in to those demands.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 08:12 | 5577678 GetZeeGold
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There's a communist in the mayor's office.....is flyover country aware of this?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 08:25 | 5577693 jbvtme
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public employee pension funds, steroids and the bottom of the gene pool...put that glazing on your donut

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 08:30 | 5577695 ParkAveFlasher
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Henry Hill wrote it best: "FUCK YOU, PAY ME."

I can only wish that the NYPD takes their pay greivances to the mayor directly.  Then again, I live in an area of self-policing.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:30 | 5577743 GetZeeGold
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Nice to see Pauly and the fellas have found honest work..

http://paulyandthegoodfellas.com/

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:41 | 5577837 UnpatrioticHoarder
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Police behaving like a protection racket

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 13:09 | 5578183 Againstthelie
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Development behaving like in all multicultural paradises in history.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 13:45 | 5578268 eatthebanksters
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I almost think O and Holder want to start a fight to fire up their base emotionally.  I wonder if they see the writing on the wall with respect to the economy and are trying to foment an excuse for what kicks off the meltdown, that way they believe their policies won't be blamed and Barry O believes his legacy will stay intact.  

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 14:37 | 5578450 chumbawamba
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The solution is simple: cops must stop killing people.

Please let us know if this is too complex for you to comprehend so we can arrange for you to be removed from the gene pool for the sake of the collective.

I am Chumbawamba.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 18:12 | 5579096 Karlus
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he solution is simple: "a certain ethnic group" must stop being criminals.

Please let us know if this is too complex for you to comprehend so we can arrange for you to be removed from the gene pool for the sake of the collective.

I am NOT Chumbawamba.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 13:16 | 5578197 goldsaver
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Self policing? Pray tell where?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:30 | 5577746 Bossman1967
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Yes we are but when the non flyover states put a communist in the whitehouse well you get what you deserve. Thats why we are talking succession here in OK

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:30 | 5577941 F22
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secession

Tue, 12/23/2014 - 07:53 | 5584393 mkkby
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These 2 pigs were expendable, casualties in the war against all of us.  Now the cops have another excuse to buy tanks and take away the rights of anyone they wish.  All they have to do is "feel threatened". 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:40 | 5577755 Blano
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Yes flyover country is aware of this.

That's why in the next attack on NYC most of us flyover country heathens won't give two shits about it.

God bless Texas.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 12:18 | 5578034 roadhazard
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All sides bring it on themselves. Fuck'm all.

WNC = "gods country", you can have the rest.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 12:27 | 5578072 Never One Roach
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The Peeples did not get what they voted for; a man who promised to "bring our troops home," prosecute the Wall Street fraud, stop frivolous Bailouts, save the Middle Class and bring racial hormony to the peeples.

 

He broke his promises.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 12:36 | 5578093 roadhazard
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Just like every other President. The trick is to get elected and not promise anything. The repubicans figured that out and now have control of the Senate.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:18 | 5578951 UselessEater
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Just like every President or Prime Minster, the trick is use double speak to get elected, then use 'chaos' of any sort to double speak your way into delivering the opposite of what people perceived was on offer while making it seem 'justified'. In so doing the next creep elected can use double speak to 'rectify' the soap opera i.e. enhance the march towards...surprise....the goals of the same vested interests.

So keep voting your way to freedom - its totally working for us in every country.

Merry Christmas and remember to donate to the poor i.e. our future selves.

end of rant!!

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 08:05 | 5577671 negative rates
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Where's Wojack when you need him?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:20 | 5577732 VAD
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No need for them to go into hiding.  There isn't a single person with the will to center any of them in a scope.  Just lots of talkers.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 12:30 | 5577987 NotApplicable
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Given the murders occurred during an "anti-terrorism drill" (yet AGAIN), I'm going to guess there's some invisible hands at work here, rather than those puppets you just mentioned.

I can only wonder what sort of psychotropic drugs this guy had been prescribed.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 05:09 | 5577546 old naughty
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Tom: "Not on my watch...but then i am watching the other way."  ;-p

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 14:53 | 5578504 whirlybird rules
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Great!  (I signed in just to give this a thumbs up!)

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:50 | 5577323 Freddie
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"Run to The Hills"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geHLdg_VNww

Iron Maiden

Bruce Dickinson - the captain on Ed Force One flying fans in Scandinavia on flight 666.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBGdmxhN6nY

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:19 | 5577256 lakecity55
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Zionists.

MaoBlasio has changed his name so many times he is probably one of Them.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 20:53 | 5579627 conscious being
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DeBlazio the self-proclaimed Zino-whore, hungry for Zino-bucks to make Zino-spin. Where's Snake Plissken when you need him??

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:22 | 5577260 Buster Cherry
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Dante's Inferno

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 06:17 | 5577590 Solio
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Ma and pa Inferno.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 08:26 | 5577692 PontifexMaximus
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Italians

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 13:30 | 5578227 razorthin
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de Blasio is about as Italian as Brando.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 13:41 | 5578252 rbg81
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DeBazzaro is German -- his real name is Wilhelm.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 14:47 | 5578488 gatorengineer
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"Dante" is just a one in a million coincidence of the Campbells soup can letters, could just have easily been Adnte, or Tedan.... all the same

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 06:06 | 5577586 r3ct1f13r
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I just listened to the entire album on friday. Great work, they really dial in on the sound in the second half.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 12:42 | 5578108 N0TME
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Ah, a fellow Rycher? Love this band.

 

This just in: Another cop murdered in Florida: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/21/us-usa-florida-police-idUSKBN0JZ0LH20141221

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 03:15 | 5577489 CoonT
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Matt should have given consideration to drones and FLIR. Militant right-wingers won't fare any better thn the taliban did.

 

Yet, how are we supposed to evolve...when we don't believe in it  :/

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 13:17 | 5578199 chubbar
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The problem, as I see it, is one of leadership in the Police Depts. The chiefs clearly don't have a clue about what their job description should entail. It certainly IS NOT the job of the Chief to protect wrong doing and promote a climate of exceptionalism in the Police force.

The chief needs to take the time to gather the facts in every single case of brutality and/or wrongful death. Then he needs to act forcefully in the cases like this past case with Garner and fire the individual who is guilty of misconduct. If the DA wants to prosecute then that is a separate department that doesn't involve the Chief although he should make that recommendation. It isn't the chief's job to be buddies with all the other officers, nor is it his job to protect police officers from the consequences of wrongful actions.

I don't have any idea where this whole idea of a protection racket for cops comes from but this is the genesis of the problem today, where most americans see the cops as antagonists as opposed to someone there to serve and protect? Who can trust cops that would stick up for another cop that chokes someone to death with an outlawed choke hold? Who can trust a police chief that does nothing about it? It just doesn't make sense to me? Why are the cops incapable of admitting wrong doing on their own without having to be dragged into court and made to testify? The whole system has failed the public and needs to be torn down and rebuilt.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 14:16 | 5578364 Omen IV
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My first knee jerk reaction was the guy who shot the two cops was a set up - false flag by Feds  - because he shot himself which is the classic way out in these situations when they are trying to silence public dissent - 

I grew up in NYC and have lived there most of my life - my family has been in greater NYC  for 130 years without getting mugged, killed or any real problems during the best and worst of times.

The cops today are seen as dangerous to the safety of the citizens NOT the blacks or any other group including muslims.

they are thugs pure and simple!

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 14:21 | 5578386 DollarMenu
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The problem is that effective review of mis-conduct is controlled by the union contracts under which the police are working.

Investigations are thwarted from the get-go by the 'union'.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:38 | 5577125 flacon
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This should be good for another 20 - 30 points up on the S&P. 

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:39 | 5577130 THX 1178
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Indeed, hopefully the street gangs and the police gangs will mutually destroy each other. 

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:42 | 5577137 thedrickster
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Not how it works, the mistakes made cannot be undone.

You will now be forced to choose your thugs. The choice will be pretty clear for a couple hundred million people in this country, post-Weimar Germany will look like Hong Kong in comparison. It will take some time, however;

Game. Set. Match.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:58 | 5577427 A Nanny Moose
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You will now be forced to choose your thugs.

We already have this, it's called Demockracy. The differences being that choice is an illusion and we choose to obey.

...because Pewblik Skewl

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 20:59 | 5579645 conscious being
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Leading italics ZH well known script fail feature means I can not up-vote your comment.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:53 | 5577861 astroloungers
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I instantly recognize most members of my own tribe......the few that I don't are revealed by what they say. Speak that I may see thee.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:46 | 5577160 NoWayJose
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In a post-SHTF world you will have lots of hungry and unemployed potential gang members -- but there will be no more police training academy.  That won't stop the police from deputizing all manner of low life scum that will be no different than the gangs.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:48 | 5577850 U4 eee aaa
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See the Mexican lab they are currently running. The gangs will take over the police force and military with money. They will simply outbid the government and the police will work for the highest bidders.

It is sad that when things get bad, the police and the gangs form a team which shows that most cops (not all) are in it for the money (and some for the brute force and killing) and not for the honor of serving and protecting.

I wish it wasn't so but that is how it has played out over history

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:54 | 5577328 Freddie
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Hopefully they will team up and destroy the Wall Street gang and the gang at 33 Liberty Street, NY, NY.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 04:24 | 5577519 DavidPierre
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 LOOK!...

Over here! 

Two dead pigs!

 

Meanwhile ... back in the jungle. 

False Flags - American Traitors & Mossad - Where are the Oath Keepers? - Ken O'Keefe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S10Aotp_tvo

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:38 | 5577131 holdbuysell
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Both sides are incorrigible and inimical to the people's interests.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:43 | 5577146 thedrickster
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There are no "People" left.

The multiculturalists won, there is no nation left in this nation-state.

It's over.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:35 | 5577393 Peter Pan
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Multiculturalsim is not the problem. The real problem is a lack of respect for the rule of rule by the President, Wall Street, and the hoodlum on the street which is further exacerbated by great disparities in income and assets. The middle class thus become the meat in the sandwich and the victims of this slide into anarchy. 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 13:20 | 5578206 Hopeless for Change
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Kinda surprised by all the down arrows on your comment. I wonder how many negatives you'd have received if your first sentence instead read "multiculturalism is only part of the problem"

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 14:29 | 5578418 Omen IV
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we have illegitimate leaders at every level starting with the POSEUR  as POTUS

he is not the decision maker - the cops are a symbol of a thug based control system where decisions are not in the peoples hands

Blacks are not the problem nor muslims - Neo- Fascists are the problem

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:06 | 5578546 gatorengineer
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How absolutely Naive you are Peter Pan, you do live in Neverland.  The Culture of the Blacks, is to have no respect for the rule of law.  The culture of the elite in this country is to have no respect for the rule of law.... What dont you get?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:05 | 5577349 Freddie
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I am not impressed.  If NY's "finest" wanted to make a statement - they should have whipped it out and pissed on Warren Wilhelm Jr.'s shoes as he walked by.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:34 | 5577750 GetZeeGold
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Well....that spoils tomorrows surprise I suppose.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:30 | 5577815 drendebe10
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The U.S. has never been more divided as since the Civil War thanks to the likes of this ruling political eite turd mayor but especially due to the tone set in the U.S. by the absolutely'  corrupt divisive incompetent arrogant narcissistic illegal indonesian alien muslim sociopathic pathological liar in chief fudgepacker. It is the most politically, socially, religiously, economically and especially racially divisive politician turd since Gunner Joe McCarthy.  The thing has set this tone for America in only 6 years and as a probable intended result the country is being torn apart at the seams.

The US needs a president who will unite the entire country, restore constitutional rule and comon sense, heal the social & economic wounds created by the fudgepacker, and restore the U.S. role in the globe with a cogent, coherent policy.

Runbenrun.org

Americafirstpac.org

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:24 | 5577816 rubiconsolutions
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Go and turn your back on a NYPD officer and see what happens.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 12:33 | 5578083 Never One Roach
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So the mayor warned his son, Dante, about a confrontation with a police officer. Did he also warn him about a confrontation with armed diverse peeples from Baltimore?

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:36 | 5577118 barliman
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Does the Mayor's office have it's own security force independent of the NYPD?

It will be open season on the Mayor if he doesn't.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:37 | 5577120 Government need...
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Fuck all the dirty pigs that wear their little piece of tin in front of their body armor.  Remember all the murder victims who died at the hands of the thugcops.  Hold those bastards accountable.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:40 | 5577136 barliman
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Lead by example, moron ...telling US means nothing ... go "light up" a police station with your rage.

 

Oh ..... you just like to "be one of the herd" that shouts nasty crap and then feels all tingly about your precious self.

 

Yep, that'll fix the problem.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:45 | 5577152 Government need...
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Go fuck a goat.  I will lead, I will exhort, I will not be silent.  Every time a fucking pig murders an innocent citizen, my attitude gets a little more hostile toward .gov.  If some murderous pig blows my 2-year-old's face off with a grenade tossed as part of a ridiculous Unconstitutional no'knock warrant, I will Goddamn guarantee you I'll light up a police station.   

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:28 | 5577270 Renewable Life
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C Darden lead a one man war against the LAPD and did some serious fucking damage!!

I thought this shit was going to happen Fergie MO first, but a war on the NYPD will be fucking madness, 8 million people, 50,000 cops, those aren't good odds!!!

If you thought the PD looked paranoid before this, just wait

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 13:33 | 5578234 chubbar
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The police have full control over fixing this problem of perception, and in most cases reality, of how they treat the public. They just refuse to implement the solution because it would entail firing cops, encouraging internal affairs to prosecute wrongdoing and the actual shunning of officers that act against the public good. That is NOT going to happen for a number of obvious reasons. So, it will eventually come down to civil actions against them like we just witnessed unless we collectively agree to be their bitches, which I also don't see happening, especially when the monetary system collapses.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 14:30 | 5578420 MrButtoMcFarty
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Idiot.

NYC is 14% black...the vast majority of which think shitstirrers like you are fubar.

This POS wasn't even from the city.

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 12:25 | 5578040 Tall Tom
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barliman...

 

If you were ever placed in command of a fighting unit you'd be fragged on day one.

 

It is suicide to fight the enemy at their position of strength.

 

You fight on your terms, not their's, You pick their weakest postion and concentrate your forces upon that. Nail their flanks. Encircle them leaving one avenue of "escape" When it is used by them then you pick them of as a retreating force on the flanks of that path...Have them run the gauntlet.

 

You are an illiterate when it comes to conducting tactical battle and your command will suffer great casualty and loss as a result of your arrogance, outright ignorance, and stupidity.

 

Yes. You'd be fragged.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:11 | 5578564 barliman
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Yet another child screaming in impotent rage and repeating tripe without wit to comprehend the YOUR own ignorance.

"You'd be fragged" - tell me, moron; What was the incidence of fragging in Viet Nam? How about Iraq and Afghamistan? Who does the fragging? What is the percentage of "fraggers" who are NOT caught?

"You fight on your terms ..."  HORSESHIT!  You are a captive of a global panopticon, the terms were established before you had a clue you were unhappy. AS for this tripe having anything to do with ANY kind of war .... people who make and execute battle plans have tried to stamp out this idiotic statement because it has nothing to do with how ANY engagement unfolds.

And that's with military people who have been trained in how to fight as a unit.

Now let's fold in the other screaming child: Government needs you to pay taxes

Fuck all the dirty pigs that wear their little piece of tin in front of their body armor.

How many police officers do YOU know? Ever done a ride along?

NO, of course you haven't.

Your "intelligence sources" are the KneePad Media in their endless variety which tell you what "reality" is and you swallow the pablum as they spoom feed it to you.

You WANT asymmetrical warfare?

If 80% of the police officers you so despise decided to hold a national strike until Obama and Holder were impeached?

Those two fuckheads would be out of office in two weeks time.

Of course, your "2-year-old's face" would be a catatonic mask of fear by then because the people currently staging "non-violent" protests woukl be looting and killing with abandon ...

... which would prompt a response from people trying to protect themselves and their property ...

... which would invite the people with truly evil thoughts to sit off aways and play "who do I want to kill NOW?" ...

... while the PO-LICE would be sitting at home watchng you cry for the cameras.

Do we have law enforcement problems in this country that need to be addressed?

YEP.

But NONE of the fuckwits on this thread have a clue of how to SOLVE them ...you all just know how to PROVE you are fuckwitted SHEEP.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:47 | 5577163 Rockatanski
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this is one of those "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" bullshit moments.

i chose neither side and offer this, protect yourself....

"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.
Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:31 | 5577278 Renewable Life
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I agree, I don't feel a thing for any of the 3 people who died in this skirmish, which is where we are in the the U.S.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:47 | 5577312 Ignatius
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That would be a great line to use in a movie.

 

/s

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:37 | 5577832 drendebe10
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Ironic  bringing up a biblical quote used by Samuel L Jackson's assasin character in a movie Pulp Fiction when the singing  video just came out by same about cops.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:58 | 5577194 disabledvet
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Dude...they're the police.

We want them to do their job.

ALL of them.  Authority is one thing but anarchy is another.  Americans don't support torture and neither do the police.  It is ILLEGAL.

As for the "rule of law" and "New York City"....well, this is New York City.  If the dude was from out of town that does cross the line.  " that's an attack" in my view. I'm not digging deeper either.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:13 | 5577236 IndyPat
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..."Americans don't support torture and neither do the police. It is ILLEGAL"...
Brother, where THE FUCK have you been?

See "polling" data about Mericans and torture. Way too many episodes of "24" under the bridge. They think it's great.
Police dogpile on folks nation wide. When do you ever see just on car show up?

Torture is illegal? Are you going to bring Bush, Cheney, Obama and Biden in on citizens arrest?

It's all on the table now, all sides.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 08:10 | 5577676 negative rates
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You forget he's in sympathy with the law here, that's makes him 1/2 at fault to begin with.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:46 | 5577765 nmewn
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"Are you going to bring Bush, Cheney, Obama and Biden in on citizens arrest?

It's all on the table now, all sides."

lol...+1, oh man thats priceless IndyPat, caught up in the web of their own making.

Obama & Biden are personally responsible for killing (by drone) ENTIRE FAMILIES just to get at one guy and everyone is wringing their hands over Dianne Feinsteins "report"?

Really?

Its awesome, it really is, well done DiFi, stellar squirrelmanship on your part.

Look! Over there! A squirrel!!! ;-)

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:41 | 5577841 NihilistZero
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I'm curious how much cognitive dissonance the Team Red/Blue cheerleaders have left. To anyone with an IQ north of 90, the dogma falls apart in the face of 5 mins of critical thinking. Remove the person from their FOX News/MSNBC bubble and it's impossible to believe the hype. The general public has known something's been wrong for a long time, but partisan voters keep giving the oligarchs legitimacy.

We desperately need a sub 25% turnout in a presidential election. A "no confidence" statement of that magnitude would render the elected government totally illegitimate. While I'd prefer an awesome libertarian president, I think the former scenario is more likely as the uniformed masses are useful in their non-participation.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 12:01 | 5577997 nmewn
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They do a pretty good job of blurring their true intentions, which is to pocket as much as they can while they're there & run out the clock until they can retire with full medical, security and pension.

I think there is a real opening for someone to step up and say:

"You know what? There really is no difference between Jeb's position regarding illegals and the rule of law and Hillary's and Obama's position. None. Zero. They want cheap labor (the Chamber of Commerce demands it) and future patronage at the ballot box, at the expense of our currently unemployed. Is that where we are, corporate interests before the publics interest?

Is there a real moral difference between Obama droning entire families (including children) off the face of the earth and waterboarding KSM? I find the distinction somewhat vague myself.

And what of the doubling of the national debt by the time Mr.VetoPen&Fone leaves office? Should any member of the current (and former) House & Senate or any President (that pen can be used to veto as well as pass) who leaves this to future generations to clean up be rewarded for such fiscal irresponsibility? I say no, they should be stripped of all their benefits and pensions for the job they left undone and actually made worse. 

The militarization of local cops. If the local populations wanted Stasi-style policing & tactics don't you think it would have been on the local ballots for them to decide instead of through the bureaucratic backdoor channel of the federal DoD? I don't think this is what the locals wanted or asked for and the leadership in DC (of both parties) sit there in stunned disbelief that the locals don't appreciate weapons of war being pointed at them for making their voices heard.

Corporate-executive pay and progressive taxation. By what stretch of economic or fiscal logic is a wage earner taxed 20% and the executive taxed at 15% by getting his/her "wage" through company stock options? Isn't this dilutive to existing shareholder value and an affront to equal & fair taxation?

We have miles to go before we sleep ladies & gentlemen. And the promises we made to each other, will be kept. The promises others made for us, will not."

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 13:20 | 5578208 NihilistZero
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Eloquent as always nmewn :-)

On a couple of points...

Executive compensation and progressive taxation expose the hypocrisy of the income tax that Team Red/Blue will support forever. Having a small, flat, federal sales tax would of course be the fairest system as you could avoid it all day by living like a pauper, but there goes Congress' ability to pick the winners and losers.

The militarization of the cops is a dead end if they continue with the destined to fail fascist plan. We aren't Cuba. It will be VERY difficult to take the final step to a police state. The beauty of what market economy we have left is the asymmetrical movement, not all of TPTBs interests converge at the same time. Much like the failure of the Soviet Union, once the Oligarchy starts fighting amongst itself the people win. I think we're close to this point. As I stated in another comment I think we're in for a Soviet Russia style reorganization through not one big collapse, but a series of failures in each and every unsustainable facet of our fiat/debt/law system. Drug decriminalisation is a great example. We won't do it because it's right, we'll do it because the Prison Industrial Complex is collapsing under its own weight.

The military adventurisim will end when the decades delayed costs come to bare and they immensely outweigh the benefits. We can't afford the drones or the torture and at some point the man with the bill turns off the works if you can't pay.

As for Jeb and Hillary, I think Rand Paul will be there to make the point you mentioned. I have a feeling he could be the guy to lead, AFTER the reorganization. Our own Putin if you will.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:05 | 5578901 JRev
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As for Jeb and Hillary, I think Rand Paul will be there to make the point you mentioned. I have a feeling he could be the guy to lead, AFTER the reorganization. Our own Putin if you will.

The co-option of Rand in this regard is already well underway. Western man's destiny will remain unchanged until the meme of the "Political Saviour" is dead and buried; until then, be careful what you wish for.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/rand-paul-george-p-bush-hispanic-o...

Rand/Bush 2024. We're already being prepped.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:48 | 5579373 nmewn
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"...I think we're in for a Soviet Russia style reorganization through not one big collapse, but a series of failures in each and every unsustainable facet of our fiat/debt/law system. Drug decriminalisation is a great example. We won't do it because it's right, we'll do it because the Prison Industrial Complex is collapsing under its own weight."

I tend to think so too, a series of failures finally being recognized as failures by the people and most of the old guard being tossed.

On the drug legalization thing, I note how its being promoted. As you say, reefer is not being legalized (which is wrong in my opinion) because its the right thing to do, its being legalized (not decriminalized) as a source of tax revenue. That should tell everyone what their real motives are, revenue.

They have to have their fucking hands in everything. If its illegal, they want the legal & prison system supported by us. If its legal, they want to tax the living shit out of you, for a plant, essentially a weed.

Its the hardest thing to get my brothers & sisters of the sixties & seventies to understand. They really don't give a shit about your chemo treatments being alleviated or your glaucoma or whatever pain or anxiety you're in, they want to stick their hands in your pocket as usual.

Just decriminalize it, the market takes care of it without the added cost.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 14:53 | 5578505 Counterpunch
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good stuff, nmewn, you're one of my faves, for whatever little that may be worth.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:29 | 5579301 nmewn
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Thanks, we'll beat back the mob, eventually ;-)

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:52 | 5577327 Government need...
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I now have a better understanding of how you are disabled.  Did they put a metal plate in your head?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 05:14 | 5577550 Rock On Roger
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goodonya dis a bled vet

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:38 | 5577129 Miss Expectations
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Higher fence erected around Gracie Mansion In the wake of White House fence-jumpers, the mayor’s security head decided to raise the height.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/higher-fence-erected-gracie-man...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:54 | 5577868 U4 eee aaa
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What's wrong? Does razor wire send the wrong signal? LOL!

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:42 | 5577140 anachronism
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Cops have been commiting crimes against the civilian populace with impunity. Even when the cases of violence are caught on camera, the cops are excused.

This is what happens when military and police are used to protect the privileged against the people. It is going to get worse, not better, as long as police are "given the benefit of the doubt" no matter how egregious the police excess may be.

Cops must go to jail for the kind of kind of actions taken against Eric Garner. Cops should be put on trial for the kind of action taken against Michael Brown.

I don't want to hear how difficult the job is. Remember, that the constitution prescribes that the right to self-defense lies ultimately with the individual. It was not delegated to a policeman, not even to a soldier.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:47 | 5577158 Government need...
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The only justice you will get is the justice you take.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:14 | 5577241 IndyPat
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They dress and train for war and acted shocked when they get it.

They haven't seen shit.

Reap it.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:24 | 5577264 LetThemEatRand
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With the exception of the relatively small percentage of Americans who made the mistake of serving the bankers overseas in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc., Americans have forgotten that war is hell.  

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:38 | 5577292 Government need...
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What do you think is happening in the streets whenever the cops kill citizens?  Is that the love squad coming to host a hug-in?  There is an undeclared war going on in the US, waged by law enforcement, against the citizens and their Constitutional rights.  Look who's got the tanks, the battle rifles, the sniper teams, the grenades, teh body armor.  That's not what a policeman needs to wear.  Wake up.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:07 | 5577351 LetThemEatRand
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Last time I checked the mayor runs the City that equips the cops with the body armor etc.  It was only a matter of time before the guys with the guns would tell the guy who is supposed to control them that they own the fucking place.  They've been telling that to the taxpayer who pays the mayor and buys the body armor for quite some time.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 05:12 | 5577548 Rock On Roger
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You misspelled 'banksters' above...

 

Until you get that right you don't know what the fuck just hit ya.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 07:02 | 5577618 effendi
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LTER, I think what you are describing is just history repeating itself. The NYPD is the Praetorian Guard and if little caeser in Gracie mansion doesn't do the bidding of the Guard then they will off him even as the Empire declines and crumbles.

Those 2 dead cops had real whitey names (not); Chinese and Latino most probably. The killer had a muslim name (Ismail), so his mother was either a muzzie or a black power idiot (most of those who took slaves were muslim, very few were European). Bet the cop killer had no father.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 08:07 | 5577666 bunnyswanson
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They may be training the troops.  That's a worrisome thought. 

http://www.timesofisrael.com/nypd-opens-local-branch-in-kfar-saba/

 

"Intel Cowboys all over the World are now getting clued in to how they have been used, suckered and to be later set aside or disposed of by the Organized Crime Cabal — and are now taking action to reverse this."

Preston James, Ph.D. !

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/12/20/very-very-bad-things/

 

This could be turned around in 24 hours.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 08:45 | 5577700 Berspankme
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We need the military and the police to turn on the bankers and politicians. The rest of us can live in peace

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:50 | 5577858 NihilistZero
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No, what we need is for people to stop voting, which gives these politicians legitimacy. Once you have a national election with less than 20% turnout things can change. Then everyone will have to acknowledge the government is not of/for/by the people, but completely illegitimate. Sure we already know it's illegitimate, but once THEY have to acknowledge the despotism we can finally and fully identify the sides in this war. It's us versus them. The people versus the politicians and bankers. Once the battle lines are drawn as such I think a great number of police and military will choose the right side.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:51 | 5577977 IndyPat
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I like your posts. I do. You are one of the people here I look for comments from. I know exactly where you are coming from. Consider this friendly criticism.

Non participation is/has/and always will be put forth as acceptance and submission. That's how they've always justified what they do.

It's passive and passive is to be a "catcher".

If I'm missing it, tell me.

What keeps them from saying "The People enjoy the oppression so much they don't even bother voting! We have wide ranging support!"

Again. This is not hostile. I want to understand how your view ultimately leads to a more free result.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 12:37 | 5578092 Tall Tom
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I cannot answer for him.

 

But, for me, it is not about what they believe. It is about MY PRINCIPLES.

 

I choose not to participate because it is a fraud and a sham.

 

I choose not to participate because I refuse to choose evil. A vote cast for the lesser of two evils is still a vote cast for evil.

 

I refuse to choose evil because it is immoral and antichrist.

 

I cannot in any way, shape, manner or form JUSTIFY a choice for evil. I'd even have more trouble sleeping at night and my image appears uglier if I violate that tenet. It is just too damned ugly at the present.

 

I know that I am damned. But I will still do the best to do my Father's will.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 14:34 | 5578430 chubbar
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I vote, but I write in either Ron Paul or "none of the above" just to show that I am participating but not in their game.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 12:37 | 5578095 NihilistZero
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Thanks 4 the kind words :-)

The only way things change is if things collapse. The system is rotten to the core. Non participation is the BEST way to accelerate this process. Don't vote. Don't bank at TBTFs. Avoid the fiat/debt/tax system as much as possible. Then the bleeding happens asymmetricly. Politicians can't pander to all the money interests under fire. The money interests aren't sure who they should donate to or if it will be profitable. The banking system can't juice our faux economy in any real sense if no one participates (see the low volume stock run-up's inability to do ANYTHING for main street). Sure things would get worse before they get better, but the only way for a fascist/totalitarian system to fail is under its own weight. I'm not a Putin/Russia acolyte, but the economic and social renaissance was only possible when the Soviet Union failed in this exact fashion.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 13:30 | 5578229 IndyPat
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Thanks for responding. You too, Tom.

I see the non participation angle a lot on ZH. I see wisdom in it, but I also see folly. Not sure how non participation played into the Soviet collapse. Bet the "Party" was enjoying amazing voting returns right up to the end...assuming there was "an end".

I think the ultimate result, post collapse, says more about the Russian people than anything else. Just robust and practical as a people. The government situation that arose post collapse is only marginally "better" from my perspective. If given a choice between thier current leadership and ours, I'd pick theirs as is self evident that there is a recognition that the people as a whole matter in decisions made. As to the over all governing situation of Russia and US...I'd pick neither. I'm not sure an example exists that I'd opt for, though. Once the red pill clears the haze, I'm not sure it ever really did...for long anyway.
I'm taking things OT, so I'll end here. Lots to think about.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 14:06 | 5578338 NihilistZero
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A quick thought on non participation as it relates to the Soviet fall...

Non participation economically surely hastened the collapse. The black market cannot be taxed and voting is not usually high on a criminals list, unless he's a politician of course. If enough people withdraw from the system it can't function. The so-called rule of law and the judiciary. The FED's counterfeit currency. The Executive dictatorship. The corporate syschophants in Congress. All are illegitimate. Doing everything you can to avoid there influence, including participating in false choice elections can only make you more free.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:55 | 5577284 Lore
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I have to agree.  The image of a friendly neighborhood policeman is almost completely destroyed, having been undermined by Hollywood for many years even as governments become increasingly parasitic, pressuring departments to act in ways which are increasingly antithetical to their original purpose of defending civil society, consequently encouraging reduction of standards and enabling the rise of dangerous pathology in the command structure, which manifests in militarization of recruitment, equipment and tactics.  The process becomes self-reinforcing: dressing up like a goon and driving an MRAP encourages the public to expect hammer-and-nail problem solving, setting an extremely negative tone for all public interaction and hindering opporunities to solve problems with intelligence, compassion and finesse.  Conscientious officers who would attempt to break the mold don't advance.  The cost of reform rises parabolically as the disease progresses. 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:39 | 5577398 ClassicalLib17
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Hey lore,  why don't you put on your I can't breathe shirt and take a stroll in one of NY's more choice neighborhoods.  It's time to take a look outside at the real world.  Most of you commenters on here probably live in all white communities.  I can say with 100% certainty that the police in the urban areas have a very tough row to hoe.  Until you get out there and back up, with real life experience, your words,  STFU

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:51 | 5577421 IridiumRebel
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As a guy who lived at Central Ave and Suydam streets in Bushwick, his post is spot on.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 05:07 | 5577545 Rock On Roger
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Leave it to Beaver.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 05:02 | 5577540 Lore
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@ ClassicalLib17: "police in the urban areas have a very tough row to hoe."  < Absolutely! I never suggested otherwise. Did you misread or misconstrue something?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 21:40 | 5579752 Tompooz
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The only justice you will get is the justice you take.

 

It's the same with liberty.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:43 | 5577143 NoWayJose
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When the SHTF it will likely be a battle between police and gangs that will be openly carrying (illegal?) guns and shooting at an cops or firemen or anything resembling law enforcement.  That is why the White House is upscaling police armament.  And if you thinkwhen the SHTF that the police are going to protect the public from wide-spread and heavily armed gangs....  they will have their hands full protecting themselves...

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:50 | 5577172 Government need...
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Would you even want the thugcops trying to protect you?  They cant hit water if they fell out of a boat.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:32 | 5577272 noben
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"they will have their hands full protecting themselves..."

from all parties/sides.

Judging by how they're behaving and whom they're serving. Just a hunch.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:48 | 5577316 tarabel
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The example of New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina should serve as a guide. Many, not all but many, deserted their governmental posts during the worst of the emergency. Every crisis involves an indeterminate period where you will be on your own. 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:23 | 5577926 IndyPat
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Yes. Those that stayed on "duty" either:

* looted along with the others

* disarmed citizens that dared to try to defend themselves and their property

* did both and more...

Bottom line, Po Po? Demilitarize or be seen as an occupying force. The uniform has a psychological effect on the wearer and the observer. When I see cops dressed in military gear I SEE AN ENEMY and I always will. When you wear a military uniform you feel like you are at war, and you will be. Dress (and act) like a policeman and enjoy my support.

They won't de-escalate, though. They will double down.
I don't support what happened to these two guys anymore than I support a black man being murdered on the streets of NYC selling cigs. It is what it is though. The District Attorney was too hard to reach I suppose and the actual guinea faced fucking goons that murdered that man are probably riding a desk.

Want to do the people you protect and pay your check a solid? Self-police your fucking ranks. Take the stupid guineas that put your life in danger and hang them from the Brooklyn bridge along with the DA. Show us where your heart is instead of lashing out and doubling down. That would go a long way to restore trust.

That's fine, though. Take the easy way. Gotta come out of the armored vehicle sometime. Got to go home sometime. Can't watch the house while at work. You are imbedded in the asylum you are creating....with us. We don't wear uniforms, so we are harder to spot. Won't see it coming. You can't win.
Search your soul and Repent. Then do the real fucking job we pay you to do.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:46 | 5577153 alexcojones
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Serpico the last NYPD I cared about.

And we know what happened to him.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:03 | 5577210 Fuku Ben
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The more things change the more they stay the same

http://www.villagevoice.com/1999-11-02/news/serpico-nothing-has-changed/

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:25 | 5577376 monkeyboy
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The Police Are Still Out of Control

I should know.

 

October 23, 2014

 

 

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/10/the-police-are-still-out-...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:41 | 5577406 tarabel
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Thanks for sharing the link.

 

They insulted my town.

They insulted my authority.

And that's nothing but plain, old-fashioned communism.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 05:01 | 5577539 Rock On Roger
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Excellent link.

 

I remember reading about Frank Serpico when I was a boy.

 

I am amazed to hear that he was ostracized by his peers.

 

I thought he was an American hero in 1973.

 

Strange how the world turns...

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:49 | 5577166 stant
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Thus begins the next civil war. But this one has no heros . To build memorials. Just a big mess

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:01 | 5577183 holdbuysell
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This docu-drama by National Geographic on a grid-down event is enlightening in that it shows the relative success of the various stereotypical people.

American Blackout 2013 - National Geographic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYoXxVnTePA

 

SPOILER ALERT:

 

 

The biggest loser was the yuppie liberal (shown in New York City) who expected 'someone' to help them because they didn't know how to help themselves...they were also the first to murder someone for a single can of food.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:04 | 5577211 Rockatanski
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that was a good program for people that are unprepared, about 90% of the population.

i also thing there will be a grid down event that is ala 9-11 style. its going to be ugly and TPTB will be insulated by police and DHS, the rest of us will be fighting mad max style.

when the dust settles, police will clean up the victors and offer food for weapons.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:33 | 5577391 TheReplacement
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More likely they will be swept up and engulfed in such violence.  The cleanup crew will be wearing blue helmets.  The food for weapons thing is right on though.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 03:56 | 5577332 tarabel
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Start at the absolute wellspring of preparedness and find yourself a copy of Alas, Babylon. Nothing better has ever been offered.

Lucifer's Hammer was okay but got weird and stupid at the end.

One Second After was a little too schmaltzy for me, and borrowed so heavily from Alas Babylon and Lucifer's Hammer that the authors should have been sued for plagiarism. Highly derivative but not a bad read.

Patriots, Survivors, Founders has some good info for the uninitiated but often presents this so blatantly as to seriously detract from the rather saccharine narrative of White Hats versus Black Hats.

Movie: Panic in Year Zero. Some thoughtful points wrapped around a now-ridiculously-dated mid-60s plotline. But still has somethng to say.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:00 | 5577788 Ban KKiller
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"Earth abides".

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 01:49 | 5577416 ClassicalLib17
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Once the Vermont Yankee Nuclear Station is shut down next year and they continue to shut down more coal-fired electric generating stations in favor of green energy scams over the next 2 years out east there will be problems that will have nothing to do with computer hackers. 

Self-inflicted?    

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:56 | 5577185 Government need...
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Pataki's quote fails to acknowledge the real and rising anger at the lack of justice for thugcop murderers as a cause for thugcops being marked for death.  This represents a Statist escalation.  Fuck Pataki.

Sat, 12/20/2014 - 23:56 | 5577187 fibonacci's claus
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now there will be a great outcry by cops to militarize even moar.  and the cops will want to grab guns.  if that happens there will be civil war for sure.

those cops have no one to blame but themselves and obama.  themselves because they act like fascist brown shirts and obama because obama was the one who furloughed 80,000 violent criminals since he was elected.  obama because he leaves the border unprotected and allows millions and millions of illegal alien felons to enter this country and treats them better than america's own citizens. 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 00:01 | 5577198 Government need...
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I will never give up my guns.  Ask the Armenians how that worked out for them.  Our country is riding up multi-dimensional asymptotes right now.  The more we're forced toward the zero-bound, the more explosive (and fragile) the system becomes.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 06:49 | 5577613 BillyPilgrim
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The Armenians?.. Thats the best example you can come up with?

I live in a country where guns arent allowed and we dont have a police-state, nor rampant violence.

In the US everyone has a gun, there is a police0state and rampant violence..

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 08:22 | 5577688 rejected
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Murder and violent crime is way down in merica,,, most crimes fanning the flames has been a result of excessive police force.

You forgot to mention your country's name so some unbiased comparisons can be made...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 09:53 | 5577770 BillyPilgrim
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Netherlands.

And US crime is still insanely higher than in the rest of the civilized world.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 10:23 | 5577813 negative rates
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In the netherlands they don't make movies about killing other country's leaders, that might have something to do with it.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:29 | 5577936 Chaos_Theory
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Tell you what.  Look up the FBI statistics on exactly who robs,rapes and murders in the U.S.  I would gladly trade you that population, keep my guns, and watch the U.S. violent crime rates plummet.  As a bonus, you can have our bankers and hedge fund facists too.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:38 | 5577953 BillyPilgrim
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I did. It is mostly whites. Which makes sense as they are the majority of the population. But still. Mostly whites.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 11:56 | 5577986 Chaos_Theory
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Read the footnotes young man.  "White" in terms of committing crime include:  caucasian, hispanic, arab, indo-European (AKA Indian), etc.  For victims of crime, those groups are separated.  Look again, especially at the percentage rates, not just raw numbers.  Offer still stands, you get our violent and financial criminals, we get your hash bars and keep our guns. 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 14:25 | 5578404 BillyPilgrim
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So basically you have nothing to offer we would enjoy, while we have everything you need? Except your precious guns ofcourse, but you can keep them, we have never had any use for them.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:01 | 5578527 Counterpunch
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Billy, understand and largely agree with your sentiments, I do, but you ought to focus on enjoying being Dutch - since it is clear that the Masters of the EU intend to keep flooding your country with immigrants until you are a small minority within 3 generations.  Because you see, you and the Dutch people don't have the right to 'be' - indeed it is "racist" to want to remain what you are.


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