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Police Reportedly Rage, De Blasio's "Hands Are Dripping With Blood"

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Following last night's back-turning show of defiance by NYPD cops, several Police 'benevolent associations' have reportedly come out swinging at the New York Mayor.

The Sergeants Benevolent Association, wrote on Twitter, “blood of 2 executed police officers is on the hands of @BilldeBlasio.”

As Capital New York reports, a spokesman for SBA did not respond to a request for comment about the memo.

Furthermore, a widely distributed note - reported by The New York Times as coming from The Patrolmen's Benevolent Association - had even more rageful speak from the rightfully disgusted police...

“At least two units are to respond to EVERY call, no matter the condition or severity, no matter what type of job is pending, or what the option of the patrol supervisor happens to be.

 

IN ADDITION: Absolutely NO enforcement action in the form of arrests and or summonses is to be taken unless absolutely necessary and an individual MUST be placed under arrest. These are precautions that were taken in the 1970’s when Police Officers were ambushed and executed on a regular basis.

 

The mayor's hands are literally dripping with our blood because of his words actions and policies and we have, for the first time in a number of years, become a ‘wartime’ police department. We will act accordingly.”

However, as Capital New York goes on to note, a spokesman for the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association has denied that the group issued a now-widely circulated memo

Asked about the memo, NYPD deputy commissioner for public information Stephen Davis wrote in an email to Capital, "That is absolutely not a Department directive."

 

Asked if the NYPD had reports of police officers receiving the memo from any police union, Davis replied, "Unknown if it actually sent by Union formally."

 

P.B.A. spokesman Al O'Leary said in an email his union did not send the memo.

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However, what is perhaps even more important is the heartbreaking message from the son of Rafael Ramos - one of the two murdered cops - on his Facebook page:

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This cannot end well.

 

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Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:43 | 5578651 HedgeAccordingly
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Crazy. Ally pad back tarp tho. Rolf

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Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:51 | 5578674 Skateboarder
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I feel bad for the families of the slain, but I have to say, "Sergeants Benevolent Association" is an oxymoron, especially in NY state.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:52 | 5578676 Publicus
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The police is threatening the mayor?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:54 | 5578688 James_Cole
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They couldn't wait even one day before turning it into a political squabble?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:08 | 5578715 crazzziecanuck
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Pure emotion.  I can think of many people to blame before De Blasio.  For one, the district attorney for being a moron.  The police chief for not immediately dealing with said officers instead of wimping out and letting someone else (i.e., district attorney) to do their job for them.  If these people still don't do anything *then* it becomes De Blasio's problem as we eventually end up at the top of the chain of command.  The district attorney is the big culprit for this unrest here, after the cop (the one who strangled Garner) in question. This kind of reaction is not surprising to me.

A few years back, when the RCMP almost got away with beating a Polish tourist to death, everyone basically took the RCMP at it's word.  Then the video leaked out and the public turned against the RCMP *big time*.  So much so that RCMP cruisers were being pelted with eggs in broad daylight on Broadway in Vancouver.  So, these shootings?  Sadly expected.  The actions of Mr. Bourque during his shooting of police officers in Moncton, NB seem to have a new light.  There is something wrong with ALL our public and private institutions these days and trust is eroding very, very fast.

You can also blame the police union here for protecting these kinds of cops.  The last four national-level incidents involved officiers would never should have been allowed to keep their badges.  The reason I blame the unions is the hypocrisy generally held that "moderate Muslims" have to come out constantly to distance themselves from bad apples yet cops get a carte blanche.  This can also be viewed together with the general craptastic fashion our media overlords run things...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:19 | 5578772 Headbanger
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HOW ABOUT THE FUCKING LIBERAL MEDIA (ESPECIALLY CNN)  FOR STIRRING UP THE RACE ISSUE ALL FOR THE SAKE OF THEIR FAILING RATINGS!?



Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:25 | 5578783 crazzziecanuck
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CNN being liberal?

You're so funny.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:25 | 5578790 Headbanger
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And you're a fucking useless retard

No go play in traffic

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:30 | 5578807 crazzziecanuck
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Judging by your lack of grammar, simplistic arguments and use of profanity, it seems you're the "fucking useless retard."

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:24 | 5578823 Headbanger
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Oh lack of grammar upsets you?

Now go fuck yourself you English major fag hole.

 

AND DO YOU FUCKING LIBERAL SHIT BALLS REALIZE HOW FUCKING SICK YOU REALLY ARE CONDONING THE MURDER OF TWO INNOCENT POLICE OFFICERS WHO WERE JUST SITTING IN THEIR CAR SERVING THEIR COMMUNITY BY A CRAZED LUNATIC FOR NOTHING THEY HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH!

SO GO FUCK YOURSELVES FOR BEING SUCH CONDEMNING ELITIST ASSHOLES

OH BUT OF COURSE YOU'RE ALL SUCH HOLY ELITIST KNOW IT ALLS

PLEASE GO TELL YOUR SHIT BALL VIEWS TO THE WIDOWS AND CHILDREN OF THESE TWO SLAIN OFFICERS YOU CUNTS!


Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:47 | 5579026 Greenskeeper_Carl
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There is a pretty big difference between stating the obvious- that this kind of shit is inevitable since too many cops violate too many people's rights and have gotten away with way too much this year, and condoning the killing of two cops.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:19 | 5579262 Bossman1967
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Amen and these libs will need a cop shortly and who will the call De blowzio

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:32 | 5578809 Bunghole
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Off yoyur meds again?

You have to be the most bi-polar member on the Hedge.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:50 | 5578826 Headbanger
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Another low life shit ball chimes in.

I love it.

WHHHHHAAAHHHH THE POLICE ARE BADDD!!

WWWWWHHHAAHHH  BAD GRAMMAR IS SO UPSETTING!!

AND GLOBAL WARMING!! WHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAHHH..

AND MY PRIUS GOT CRUSHED BY A SEMI... WHAAAAAAAHHHHH



Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:54 | 5578883 Realname
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You just had to bring global whoreming into this mess, didnt ya?...lol Ill give ya a greenie for that.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:59 | 5578897 Headbanger
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Oh pleeeez

Just let me enjoy fucking with the "poor grammar upsets me" Prius driving, global warming Holier Than Thou True Believer FEMINIZED GELDINGS HERE!

Thanks.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 18:11 | 5579088 jcpicks
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Everyone is missing the bigger point here. Take a Xanax, a shot of Jack and chill the fuck out.

2 cops are dead as a result of the race-baiting & cop-hating bias generated by the media, the politicians and the 'reverends'. This result was an eventuality, and will probably just get worse from here on out. Yes...de Blasio has blood on his hands, but he's not the only one.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:28 | 5579297 TheReplacement
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I think you are missing the point.  What you pointed out is the tactic.  What about the strategy of uparming police, training them like they are to be an occupying force in a hostile environment with a ROE the makes just about everyone a criminal and the obvious results that will come from that?

Take away the racebaiting and you still have over armed, over trained, and over zealous police over enforcing and overly complex law code.  They will abuse people and people will die regardless of how those deaths are portayed on TV.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 18:14 | 5579101 Realname
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Youd better watch it or youll have this lovely fatty in yer shit... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF_4OEoFOgU

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 22:22 | 5579857 zerophilo
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Headbanger,

You're kind of a douche, and uninteresting, and you're unintellectual. Seriously, shut up.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:25 | 5579282 TheReplacement
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Banger and Vet make me feel better about my periodic "episodes".

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:32 | 5578812 macholatte
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The cops need to stop jerking off and simply take a few days off and make sure the dates are well published.

They need to do it when Barry is in in town and when Jessie Sharpton gives a speech.

See what happens.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:55 | 5578885 MalteseFalcon
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It was alleged that the police in LA stood down prior to the 1992 riots.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:32 | 5578989 Bananamerican
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"Absolutely NO enforcement action in the form of arrests and or summonses is to be taken unless absolutely necessary and an individual MUST be placed under arrest. These are precautions that were taken in the 1970’s when Police Officers were ambushed with regularity"
Serpico is an old man now but he says the NYPD is just as corrupt as it was back then, "omertà" code of silence and all.... the same "us vs. them" mentality.
The sense of entitlement, arrogance and emotional immaturity rolling off duh fuzz is immense....they truly don't know their place in society.

Mon, 12/22/2014 - 00:02 | 5578849 Save_America1st
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Yep..but this race bullshit has all started from the very top with the insanely sociopathic and treasonous obama, Holder, Sharpton, Jesse, all the other blacks on the Left, and then all of the Left in general.  The media follows their lead and says what they're told to from above.

They've wanted this from the beginning.  They've wanted this for decades.  Its an all out attack against all Americans.  Divide and conquer.  Collapse and militarize.

They're the true criminals and the true terrorists who are destroying the country and the peace.

 

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.

 

Marcus Tullius Cicero

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:18 | 5579254 meistergedanken
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You couldn't wait a day before showing you're an asshole?

Besides, "the personal IS political".  You're a libtard - you should have that committed to memory by now...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:57 | 5578698 Abitdodgie
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So two police got killed , tell me again how many men, woman and children do the police murder every year about 500 is it not , so who gives a fuck , if the guy who did it was still alive he should of got a paid vacation that is as long as he feared for his life when he shot them .

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:02 | 5578722 Minge
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Get bent, you fucking sociopath.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:13 | 5578748 Headbanger
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Let me add

FUCK YOU ASSHOOLE!

YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT

HOPE TO MEET YOU SOME DAY YOU FUCKING LOW LIFE SHIT BALL

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 18:37 | 5579160 TinF0ilHat
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Fuck You Fuck Boy. 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:33 | 5579308 TheReplacement
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He shot them from behind so no.

Had he actually been defending himself against aggressors, then yes.

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 21:03 | 5579654 aurum4040
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You will give a fuck when your path of life intersects the ever escalating, manufactured division between the races, among respectable citizens and police officers alike, the rich and the poor ~ its the Collieseum of the 22nd century, it's the reason oil is at $54, it's the reason US politicians hate Vladimir Putin, its why FEMA built mass graves, the reason why Syria has led to ISIS, the reason why Criminea was annexed by the Russians, why Nixon is a saint compared to Barry yet we allow it, all of it and much more are the vision NATO and the globalist elite have 'illuminated', conjured, and attempt to psy-op it all squarely around our minds. 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:04 | 5578726 chubbar
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The cops have only themselves to blame. Until the police clean up the bad guys in their ranks they will no longer garner any sympathy when they are killed.

A cop choked a guy selling loosies to death. Then the cop union protects him, the chief of police doesn't give a shit and the rest of the force shrugs their shoulders and continues on with their "comply or die" policing strategy.

That shit needs to stop right fucking NOW. They are losing the support and respect of the middle ground. If the cops are not respected or obeyed by the average joe it is game over for the cops. The cops are not going to retain respect by killing people for petty crimes or not reacting to their orders fast enough. The fact that they can't collectively get their minds around this idea of treating people fairly is quite telling with regard to their I.Q. and mindset.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:15 | 5578750 Headbanger
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FUCK YOU !

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:37 | 5579004 Bananamerican
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ZH is obviously too upsetting for a fascist troll like yourself....
Why don't you take your Tourette's syndrome over to a cop forum where it will be more welcome?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:24 | 5579287 pickupthatcan
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Headbanger and minge enjoy deep throating that thin blue line cock.  They must really like that jelly flavored donut jizz. 

The largest, oldest, best funded criminal enterprise in the US has always been law enforcement.  May constant fuck be upon them.

Mon, 12/22/2014 - 02:07 | 5580253 in4mayshun
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Not all cops are bad, especially if you get away from the hustle and bustle of the big city; they can be down-right decent people. But this should teach them a lesson about protecting their own. If they fail to root out the bad eggs, they'll all soon have the same stench.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:36 | 5579320 TheReplacement
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The butthurt is strong with this one tonight.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:19 | 5578760 crazzziecanuck
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It's quite indicative of just howly poorly the human resources profession actually is.

All they seem to do now is browse LinkedIn to poach employees from other companies and subject people to stupid psycological testing that clearly (in the case of policing screams) doesn't work.

Just more institutionalized failure to keep a certain class of people employed and it's not as if we needed another example of how little value the HR profession brings to anyone.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:35 | 5579315 TheReplacement
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Isn't it simply amazing that not one single politician in this country has said anything remotely like that?

Well done.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 23:42 | 5580034 Haywood Jablowme
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** APPLAUSE **

Standing ovation....

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:03 | 5578916 pcrs
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Our overlords are fighting amongst each other. I think there are too many pigs on the throt.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:50 | 5579034 Bagbalm
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are

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:03 | 5578716 Larry Dallas
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I think Sharpton's days are numbered. Ill be surprised if he makes it through 2015. Honestly. No sarc.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:08 | 5578737 Freddie
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He either got the cancer or somebody gave it to him.  I doubt he makes it through Spring 2015.  He looks awful now.  Sorry but no sympathy from me.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:36 | 5579326 TheReplacement
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You sure it isn't aids?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 20:35 | 5579571 Stevious
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Was it not the Sargeants Benevolent Association that took a 2 million dollar gift from one of the big banks (GS?) just before the Occupy NY?

I still remember the video of the officer on a motorcycle running over a fellow.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 20:36 | 5579572 Stevious
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Was it not the Sargeants Benevolent Association that took a 2 million dollar gift from one of the big banks (GS?) just before the Occupy NY?

I still remember the video of the officer on a motorcycle running over a fellow.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:47 | 5578662 kowalli
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You father chooses to be a cop - guy who is protect people from gangsters, but he was protecting gangsters from people....

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:01 | 5578708 Minge
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So, a young man loses his father for the crime of sitting in a car.  And you apply a sweeping generalization that, because of his chosen profession "he was protecting gangsters from people."

Not only are you a heartless prick, you have allowed your political/social beliefs to poison your humanity.

I know I throw around the word "asshole" too liberally -- my sorry attempt at humor.  But in this instance, it is appropriate.

You, sir, are an asshole.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:16 | 5578756 Headbanger
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No,  A complete piece of low life shit is moar like it.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:20 | 5578774 Government need...
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Great, the fucktard returns. . .

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:42 | 5578779 Headbanger
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Yeah and I'm up your ass the way you like it!

<-- Fags upset they're not getting it up the ass too

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:40 | 5578841 Minge
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If there was ever an occasion of "it takes one to know one," this would be it.  Fucktard.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:27 | 5578797 crazzziecanuck
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Lest we forget a daughter lost her father for (allegedly) selling cigarettes.

No one has the right be judge, jury and executioner.  The problem is that it seems white cops are allowed that right because a certain class of people fearmonger other people into believing the earth will open up and swallow us all whole in bloodbath and chaos if we don't allow tolerate thugs in the police force.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:44 | 5578859 Headbanger
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White cops!?

The NYPD sergeant  "supervising" that arrest was a black woman you moe-ron!

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:50 | 5579035 crazzziecanuck
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Which goes to my point that there are many, many more people to blame here than De Blasio.  In the video, there were at least six officers at the scene and NONE moved in to say or do anything to stop the illegal chokehold.  Not one.  People in the crowd say and KNEW what was going on and yet total inaction by all the other officers there.  There was one bad cop and a bunch of others who simply watched, said nothing and did nothing.  I can see why the police union from top to bottom is upset at all this because that observation is potentially catastrophic if it goes mainstream.  It's a bit of a blight on all the public services

Let's also remember there have been a number of high profile shootings involving black victims shot by white officers.  We had Brown, Garner here in NY, Crawford in Ohio and twelve-year old Tamir in Cleveland.

There is a serious problem with policing but the problem seems to be much broader than just police.  It's just about any institution you can think of.  The problems with policing management is just one in a long list of what seems to be systemic ineptitude by "overeducated"** peons who push paper simply for job preservation.  You can find this kind of deterioration in the political system, the judical system, in the private (especially corporate) sector.  In the clergy.  Don't get me started on academia which is where much of this problem actually seems to originate.  People are understandably focused heavily on the police, but if you step back and look at other institutions, you see the same sort of trends; that rampant lack of accountability and professionalism never gets any attention unless it's an event that can be sensationalized (rightly or wrongly).

For me, as a white middle-aged man, is emblematic of the generalized systemic failure.  We have policemen who shouldn't be police, we have a bureaucracy consumed with a desire for numerology and a ruling political class implementing policy that does just that.  Forces managers to fill their quotas so some suit can go in front of the camera to convince an electorate that what isn't up is up.  "Stop and Frisk" is probably the best example of cronyism in the public sector and the death of Garner is just one of the unfortunate outcomes of it.

 

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** I put overeducated in quotes because I do not believe post-secondary education is about education but only about indoctrination.  To limit people's imagination so the can be fit into the bureaucratic machine like an interchangeable mass-produced part.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:39 | 5579334 TheReplacement
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So you do not deny that the police, not just the white ones but all in general, are lawless thugs?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:46 | 5578862 Minge
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I can't disagree with you.  But, I can't revel in the death of two people who were not involved in the events you cite.

If we paint all cops, or all blacks, or all cigarette selling people with the broad brush we are as guilty as the cops.  Or the blacks.  Or those selling cigarettes.

Each person is their own person.  And I see no reaon why these two people needed to die.  I see less reason why anyone would celebrate it.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 18:09 | 5579081 crazzziecanuck
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But should it be unexpected that some people are lashing out this way?  The normal legal channels clearly have failed.  The law has to be applied equally to all, but it isn't.  We have a system now that criminalizes trivialities and lets major crimes go utterly unaddressed (certain classes of people don't even get charged anymore, in this case, the cops).  The "system" never was truly fair, but now it's so flagrantly biased to the rich it's not even contested anymore.  (Matt Taibbi has a great take on it in his last book "The Divide".)

Now, had one other officer stepped in and at least said something, things might have been different in the aftermath of his death.  What do you see in the video?  You see a bunch of NYPD cops standing around saying nothing and for many people that's a form of equivalency.  It's bad when someone does something wrong.  It's worse when someone just stands there and lets it happen.

If the DA in Ferguson had moved forward with simple negligent homicide charges and weakly tried the guy in court to the point he'd be found not guilty, there would not have been the outpouring of national support that arose.  If Ferguson had not have occurred then Mr. Garner's death would have been yet another statistic to add.

I think people have figured out that the system is rigged against them.  My only words are "it took people long enough and I'm a middle-class white honkey."  Not to beat a dead horse even more, but what we are seeing is a constant stream of organizational failure due to the lack of accountability and professionalism.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 18:25 | 5579126 Minge
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Yeah.  I get lashing out.  And I ( with no sarcasm intended) agree with that.  You just don't do that by walking up to two people who are doing their jobs and putting bullets in their heads.

If anyone thinks that is an appropriate response they have traded their humanity for their ideology.

Those are the most dangerous people.

Mon, 12/22/2014 - 01:10 | 5580184 Vooter
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"You just don't do that by walking up to two people who are doing their jobs and putting bullets in their heads."

Have you read NO history??? Things like this have happened over and over and OVER again throughout history, and on an INSANELY larger and bloodier scale--how do you think revolutions start? I think it's terrible that these cops were killed this way, but the fact that you and the general public and the NYPD are so completely flabbergasted that such an event could POSSIBLY occur means that you are NOT PAYING ATTENTION. You are not paying attention to the critical condition in which this country finds itself. As I asked you in another post, were you also surprised by 9/11? Because if you were, then you were likewise (and not surprisingly) NOT PAYING ATTENTION. Wake the fuck up...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 18:36 | 5579164 Angry White Dude
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crazzziecanuck -

Re: "If the DA in Ferguson had moved forward with simple negligent homicide charges and weakly tried the guy in court to the point he'd be found not guilty,..."

Is that really what we want though? Isn't that just the same corruption and shortfall we already have? A sham is a sham. Now, if you'd said that the DA should have moved forward and tried the case objectively and fairly, and without the usual shenanigans (supressing evidence, intimidating witnesses, suborning perjury) and prosecutorial abuse that is rampant in the quest to get convictions, I'd be with you.

I agree with you - lashing out is the natural and expected outcome of a broken system. But gaming the prosecutorial aspect of that system isn't a good solution.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 18:31 | 5579145 Angry White Dude
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I think it is intellectually dishonest to characterize it as "los[ing] his father for the crime of sitting in a car." I, like the rest of us, can only speculate on the shooter's motives based on the information that has been reported (the veracity of which cannot be taken at face value). I think the mindet is that all NYPD cops are guilty by association, and that they were targets of opportunity.

Another commenter hit it on the head - there is a difference between believing that this incident is unsurprising and perhaps a high-probability outcome, and taking joy or reveling in it. In this case, I think this commenter is closer to the latter end of the spectrum. I think a key concern this incident highlights, however, is that there is widespread sentiment that all cops are bad, either through their own bad acts or because they explicitly or implicitly tolerate the bad acts of their fellow cops. That sentiment is compounded by a sense, empircally justified or not (I don't know, I don't have the stats), that LEOs disproportionately get away with overt abuse and bad acts - in short, the perception that there is no accountability or means of redress.

Unless and until law enforcement organizations are able to change that perception, I would expect these types of incidents to continue, if not increase. Doesn't mean I'm a reveler or celebrant, just means I'm not surprised at what seems to me to be an obvious and natural consequence.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:53 | 5578679 TulsaTime
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There is more blood on the hands of the police union for helping to maintain the blue wall, than on the mayor's office, but we know this is politically motivated.

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:57 | 5578680 alexcojones
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Wish we still had a MLK. 

Sharpton and Police "Benevolent" association just will make things worse.

Hey NYPD, why not arrest Mr. "Pull it"? WTC 7 didnt just fucking fall down, you accomplices-to-a-crime

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:55 | 5578681 lolmao500
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Yeah but will they keep murdering hundreds of thousands of dogs every year?

Cops : stay in your police station and don't come out until we call you. Stop protecting the scum at Wall Street. Stop beating the shit out of protesters. Stop issuing stupid tickets, which is really tax collection to fund a treasonous government. Stop enforcing stupid laws that do no harm to nobody (like smoking weed). Stop shooting dogs.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:53 | 5578682 kowalli
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ofc you stole chickin - you go jail, government stole trillions and they do nothing...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:54 | 5578683 PGR88
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Al Sharpton is an angel of death.  Whatever he is involved with, death, destruction and mayhem follow.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:04 | 5578729 Freddie
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Have you seen a really recent picture of him?  Like in the last week.  He is really skinny now.  Maybe karma is catching up to him.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:54 | 5578684 Ginsengbull
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Rest in Peace officers.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:16 | 5578766 Government need...
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They chose their profession poorly.  Standing with tyrants and murderers puts you in the line of fire.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:39 | 5578837 Minge
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Could you be any more of an asshole?  Don't answer.  The question is rhetorical.

Mon, 12/22/2014 - 00:57 | 5580171 Vooter
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Were you surprised by 9/11, too? Did you believe that the U.S. was attacked because "they hate our freedom"? Reality sure hits the deluded the hardest...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:55 | 5578691 Sudden Debt
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Nobody has the right to take others peoples lives. Nobody.

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:03 | 5578723 Freddie
Freddie's picture

Just banksters and oligarch billionaires like Soros and Porky.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:17 | 5578758 Government need...
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Unless you are a stormtrooper.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:42 | 5578851 toady
toady's picture

Or a banker
Or a politician
Or their henchmen

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:09 | 5578930 FredFlintstone
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What if that person who possesses the life you wish to take is about to kill you, a loved one or some other innocent person?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:21 | 5579271 Harry Balzak
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There is a difference between having the right to defend oneself (or someone else) and having the right to take someone else's life.  If in the process of defending yourself (or someone else) your adversary ends up dead, then so be it, but their death was incidental to your right to defense.

The question in a legitimate court (of which there are few) would be whether your right to defense was legitimate, not whether you had a right to kill.  

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:52 | 5579392 FredFlintstone
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What if you know that if someone is not killed, they will come after you and your family until they are all killed. If you simply maim them in their act of attacking you, they will serve their time and when released, finish their business.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 18:01 | 5579069 Berspankme
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All americans have the right to take out a bankster. I prefer hanging from a lamppost

Mon, 12/22/2014 - 00:43 | 5580139 Vooter
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Except if they threaten your ability to print all the counterfeit money you want--then you can drone the shit out of them and their wedding guests...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 15:57 | 5578693 buzzsaw99
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it seems like it's always the good ones that get killed

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:00 | 5578705 Freddie
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IN ADDITION: Absolutely NO enforcement action in the form of arrests and or summonses is to be taken unless absolutely necessary and an individual MUST be placed under arrest. These are precautions that were taken in the 1970’s when Police Officers were ambushed and executed on a regular basis.

When was this?  Was this when they were setting up officer Frank Serpico?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy0YpVNx_Mk

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 18:43 | 5579178 Angry White Dude
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So, if this policy was in effect previously, the guy that was choked to death would probably still be alive. I think this is a great policy. Why shouldn't the police be a little more hypervigilant in their use of fear, coercion and violence?

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 20:31 | 5579547 Freddie
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+1

The guy was selling loose cigarettes.  Give him a ticket with a warning or something.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:06 | 5578717 Atomizer
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Find the mole within NYPD. Problem solved. Generally three will be found. They work as a operation. Don't bother with internal affairs, they are in on it. <-- start here.

My condolences to the families of Police officers.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:04 | 5578728 i_call_you_my_base
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"If you don't blindly support everything we do, every crime from here on is your fault."

Right.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:45 | 5578860 toady
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#breatheasy

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:04 | 5578730 Cymore Duttz
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President O and the Democrats are now trying to do race splitting to get the blacks out to support them and vote.  It doesn't matter what the black buy did, the police are at fault if he dies.  We average 85 young black male deaths a week in the USA by other black males. No one cares. In 6 months, we have had 3 black deaths by police officers and the Blacks use it as an excuse to act out. 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:04 | 5578731 Cymore Duttz
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President O and the Democrats are now trying to do race splitting to get the blacks out to support them and vote.  It doesn't matter what the black buy did, the police are at fault if he dies.  We average 85 young black male deaths a week in the USA by other black males. No one cares. In 6 months, we have had 3 black deaths by police officers and the Blacks use it as an excuse to act out. 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:05 | 5578734 Shitgum Suicide
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Bill deblasio's real name is William wilhelm jr. He is a known communist who married another communist who supported the Sandinistas in Nicaragua.
I hope this commie fuck gets what he asked for as that town will tear itself apart from the years of failed communist operations of a city and state government.
I hope protests breakout in Hawaii as to not let Barry leave the island I hope Chicago goes full retard and brings a little holiday cheer to the ballerina mayor Rahm Emanuel that they brought to his son.
Then I hope it spreads to oakland, LA, Cleveland, ferguson, the works.
I hope they get everything for Christmas they asked for and then some.
So when everything's goes full retard those that got Christmas gifts that require a background check will be able to play with their toys on Christmas Day like all the other kiddies for a hen looters break into your house of course.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:09 | 5578741 Freddie
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The idiots of NYC voted for this Che Guevera wanna be f**k.  Let them eat cake and matzos.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:17 | 5578765 Atomizer
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Good fucking GOD. We have another political Hollywood actor changing his/her name to spearhead a red-carpet agenda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_de_Blasio

 

This guy is x10 times worse than Bloomberg.

Thank you. Shitgum.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:02 | 5578903 lakecity55
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"We must De-Zionize your name, Sol. How about "Bill? Maybe we'll use German or Italian for the surname."
"Anything for the Revolution, Comrades!"

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:12 | 5578943 messystateofaffairs
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"I hope they get everything for Christmas they asked for and then some."

Please its not "for Christmas" it's for the "holidays", you don't want to offend the Joos.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:07 | 5578736 Cymore Duttz
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Anyone Notice that the Blacks are mad about White cops killing Black criminals and we all know that all cops are white.

But the Dumb-ass in NY Killed 2 cops: One was a PR or latino, the second was Chinese. 

Inner city schools can't even teach the Black kids their colors.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:13 | 5578745 Skateboarder
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There is no color prerequisite for being a thug.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:48 | 5578869 lolmao500
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Black thugs should realize that even black cops are racist towards blacks.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:11 | 5578934 toady
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So now the Triads are gonna get in on this?

"In uniform, don't shoot"(tm) protests in China Town?

San Francisco and Vancouver burning as Asians riot and loot?

Mon, 12/22/2014 - 00:38 | 5580117 Vooter
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"Inner city schools can't even teach the Black kids their colors."

He was looking for blue, moron. And he definitely found it...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:14 | 5578752 Tachyon5321
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The blood is on Obama, Holder and Sharptons hands for starting this race war 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:19 | 5578773 Headbanger
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THANK YOU!

Mon, 12/22/2014 - 00:26 | 5580111 Vooter
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Uh, yeah, because black people were doing just GREAT in this country before those three showed up. I'm sure all the black people out there are just pining for the "good ol' days" between 1865 and 1988 (when Tawana Brawley, along with Al Sharpton, first showed up)...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:14 | 5578755 Government need...
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This is what happens when you call the cops, you get your rights violated and you all get shot.  That girl's father chose poorly.  When your organization stands for tyranny and murder, it's time to choose another profession.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:16 | 5578759 Shitgum Suicide
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Deblasio's blame in this is the political rhetoric that followed the garner grand jury decision. It was in line with the shit stirring language sharpton, holder and obama engaged in and it did nothing to ease and calm the situation.
Leaders are supposed to be above this petu shit. This is why he and others will be held responsible for the boiling over

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:17 | 5578768 MrButtoMcFarty
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Summer 2015 is looking to be really hot!

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:18 | 5578771 Luckhasit
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Let those asshole rage.  When NYC had a judge say stop and frisk was illegal and told to abandon it, they flipped the courts a middle finger and still continued with it.

If anyone has blood on their hands, it's the NYPD for all the innocents that police force has killed and those familiies in turn have had no justice.

Douchebaggery has no skin color or cultural lines.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:20 | 5578776 Headbanger
Headbanger's picture

Don't call 911 ever again you fucking shit ball.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:45 | 5579022 toady
toady's picture

Never did, never will.

That's not true, I crank-called them alot when I was a kid.

No more though... they'll just fuck me over.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 18:00 | 5579062 Luckhasit
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Fuck you and the horse you rode in on Headbanger.  I pay my taxes so damn right I'm callin 911.. For emergencies, when the phone sex hotline is down, for cooking advice, and for directions!

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 18:39 | 5579173 jerry_theking_lawler
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HB, you are obviously a LEO...don't take any of this personally as I am certain you are one of the 'good guys'...in reality, the police have brought alot of this upon themselves but the flames have been stoked by the asshats in charge (Obama, Holder, sharpton, etc, etc).

Oh yeah, where I live (I've timed it before) it takes the law 15 minutes to get here....so, as others have stated, I am armed to the teeth and do not tolerate any BS...so, if I do call 911, its going to be for the meat wagon. just saying.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:43 | 5579352 licutis
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If he was one of the good guys he wouldnt be acting like a cock online all afternoon. If he was true to his oath, he would understand that people are entitled to points of view he doenst aggree with or even finds disgusting. Instead he attacks everyone he can find for the crime of not sharing his worldview. This is the concern that many of us have with policing and we should thank him for proveing our point. 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:34 | 5578817 Minge
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For fuck's sake, man.  Get some perspective.  You're right. Douchebaggery has no skin color or cultural lines.  Nor does it have a filter for idiots posting on websites spouting their narrow-minded, basement-generated philosophies.  You are a pathetic excuse for a human.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:42 | 5578843 Luckhasit
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Hey doucebags, i said let them rage.  Or are ya'll only concerned when a cop gets killed and turn a blind eye when they kill someone innocent?

Oh, that's right, NYPD don't make mistakes and haven't killed anyone out of sheer imcompetence.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:57 | 5578894 Minge
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I never said the cops don't make mistakes nor should we turn a blind eye when they kill an innocent.  I just find you to be an asshole for making your comments on a post describing how a 13 year old boy feels about losing his father.

If your ideology is so intense that you've lost your humanity, you are more dangerous than the NYPD that you hate with your generalizations.

Assholes like you will never change.  You'll never put the honest effort into improving anyone's lives, you'll never do anything except spout platitudes from the sidelines like the asshole you are.  Your type is a dime a dozen. 

Just another hapless loser with a podium presented by the Internet.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:58 | 5579060 Luckhasit
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Whatever ass, I stand by my statement, let them rage. Just like everybody else who lost a family member due to the pig headedness of the NYPD.  For fuck's sake, if the cops can kill a homeless person, face no kind of discipline you damn right they can kill you or me and say some bullshit to cover their asses, which they do.  No these cops didn't deserve to die due to some asshole with a death wish but guess what.. More folks are killed by cops than cops are killed by people.

This shit is being built up for some form of martial law anyway, the COPS and CIVILIANS are all playing into it. 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 21:07 | 5579111 Minge
Minge's picture

OK..

Do you have any concept of statistics?  More people are killed by cops than cops killed by the people?

Christ.  You may be the most stupid human being I've ever had the misfotune of encountering.

Dumb and opinionated.

Great combination.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 21:40 | 5579755 Vooter
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Um, from everything I can find, an average of 150 cops are killed each year across the U.S., while roughly 300 to 500 civilians are killed by cops. So appparently, he DOES have a concept of statistics...

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 20:44 | 5579592 22winmag
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Agreed- let the commies and facists fight it out. When they do, the people benefit.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:23 | 5578777 himaroid
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The commie mutha fucka got 73.3% of the vote.

How many union cops?

NYC deserves him.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:26 | 5578785 valley chick
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The 2 NYC officers are not the first to be killed since Feguson. With the lamestream media owned by 6 corporation bought and paid for, the endless media coverage smells of a bigger agenda. It appears Ferguson did not have the charm. NYC is the perfect environment with a communist mayor along with 8 million people to acquire a desired effect to achieve maximum civil unrest. All by design.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:30 | 5578804 Headbanger
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Bingo!

It's fucking Obongo & Freeks looking to declare martial lar to suspend the Constitution so he can stay in office forever.

Now two NYPD officers were murdered for it.

 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:50 | 5578874 valley chick
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It appears that way headbanger. One pesky detail that nobody is talking about.....is the money. Who paid this thug to go clear to NYC to shoot officers? Surely someone did as there are plenty of officers in Baltimore to vent his anger on.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 18:24 | 5579123 Realname
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Fonestar gave him some bitcoins. I blame Satoshi, ultimately.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 22:22 | 5579864 Freddie
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Ebt cards.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:57 | 5578896 homebody
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Obummer - "if I had a son....."

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:03 | 5578912 joego1
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He would be named Mohammad.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 20:42 | 5579587 22winmag
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Get a grip. Real martial law cannot be declared by a civilian government still in power. Real martial law can only be declared by the military after the fall or removal of the civilina government.

 

The day real (or fake) martial law is declared is the day the people unload millions of rounds on anyone and everyone in uniform who stands against the people.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:25 | 5578786 PoorMan429
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This whole thing stinks to high hell. 


There's more to this.  Someone wants the pot stirred and they just kicked it over.  

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:26 | 5578788 Barnaby
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Relax, Gentlemen, this is only the beginning.

Consider Maryland's three powerful statewide Fusion Centers, and the failure of their "Push" of information. After all, even during the heightened awareness of a New York City anti-terrorism drill, this critical perp data couldn't reach the deceased officers in time.

From here on we will see "Push/Pull" in Fusion Centers as well as a little thing they like to call Predictive Policing, but on steroids. Watch yourselves out there.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:29 | 5578789 valley chick
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Dup

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:29 | 5578798 cigarEngineer
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I can't say I expected level-headedness and thoughtfullness from cops, but it is just another clear example of who gets hired to be cops: authoritarian and childish bullies. The cops work for the mayor. They cannot show insubordination like that by turning their back on him. That is a symbolic coup, as the cops are subordinate to elected officials and not a standing army that can do whatever it feels like doing.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:28 | 5578800 cigarEngineer
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delete

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:28 | 5578802 First There Is ...
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In the last couple of weeks, City of Denver has paid out millions upon millions of dollars in settlements for some of the most egregious examples of police brutality I have ever witnessed. We've all heard the oft-repeated "not all cops are bad" claptrap but the problem as I see it is I have NEVER heard a pig condem the actions of his fellow pigs.

The case below was just settled for another $3MM (courtesy of the generosity of the motherfucking taxpayer). I think settlements in Denver ALONE have been in excess of $20MM in the last couple of years and you know who picks up the tab for their extracarricular activities. 

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2014/06/christopher_lopez_jail_death_pueblo_lawsuit.php

I'm trying really hard to muster up some sympathy for these two cops but I'm also guessing these two stood shoulder to shoulder with the pieces of shit who choked out Garner. Sorry, fuck them. I've had enough of this country's mindless genuflecting/cop worshipping. 

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:32 | 5578811 Headbanger
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Please try really hard to deeply breath in the exhaust from a running car

Or just stick your head in a broiler

Or jump in front of an 18 wheeler doing 70 MPH

 

Thanks!

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:37 | 5578824 Minge
Minge's picture

You are an ignorant fuck who lacks any sense of reality or humanity.  Yet, I still don't wish upon you what happened to those two officers.  You'd do well to take inventory of youself.  You may find it lacking.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 19:33 | 5579310 Urban Roman
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Denver should take it out of their pension fund. Sorry, retired coppers, but if you didn't clean up your act back then, you don't get to keep that cushy retirement... Leave it up to the union to decide how to allocate the costs.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 20:37 | 5579577 22winmag
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Cops luv steroids. Defend yourself accordingly.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:47 | 5578857 besnook
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cops are arrogant fucks. in ft. lauderdale, every time the pd union contract comes up and the city balks on another outlandish demand the union puts up a billboard sign near the entrance to the airport warning visitors that ft. lauderdale refuses to comply with the extortion of the police union so their welfare may be in danger.

it is even more arrogant for cops not to think that someone(including dorner) would decide on some street justice for the general lawless behavior of cops condoned by everyone in the power structure.

the cops delivered those bullets themselves.

it will be fun in a very dark way to watch the response of the police now that the table has been turned on them. their true character is about to make an oscar performance.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:52 | 5578877 Minge
Minge's picture

Generalize much?  The last time I checked, most cops are just humans trying to make a living and get home alive.

Hate them all, though.  That shows the subelty of your intellect.  Or lack thereof.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:54 | 5578881 besnook
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minge, you've managed to excel at empty trolling comments. you've found something you are good at. you should be proud of yourself.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:00 | 5578898 Minge
Minge's picture

Thanks.  Someday I hope to be as insightful as you.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 20:35 | 5579575 22winmag
22winmag's picture

Cops luv steroids.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:45 | 5578864 Blood Spattered...
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I find all of this faux outrage hilarious.  What did everyone expect?  Our militarized and insane police forces all across the country practically begged for this to happen.

War is a bitch, deal with it.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 16:47 | 5578868 Minge
Minge's picture

You're an asshole.  Deal with it.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:07 | 5578921 malek
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You're a dumbfuck. You don't need to deal with it, it's hopeless anyway.

Sun, 12/21/2014 - 17:08 | 5578932 Minge
Minge's picture

Ouch.  How ever will I sleep tonight, carrying the burden of that burn?

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