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Russia, China, Or America? "An Oppressed People Ruled By Others For Others"
Submitted by Thad Beversdorf via First Rebuttal blog,
“I’ve long thought that he has pursued a pre-World War Two course which could only end badly – a course in which his power is maximized by crushing internal opponents, expanding empire and using the military to frighten neighboring countries into submission.”, writes John Lloyd of Reuters. I read this excerpt from his recent article and thought finally someone in mainstream media is honestly discussing the foreign policy of America, just to eventually find out he is actually talking about Putin. However, Lloyd does go on to imply American foreign policy can be described much the same way.
Unfortunately the rest of the article is basically ‘informing’ the reader that Putin has two options; 1. he can lose or 2. he can lose badly. John Lloyd’s coverage must be a bit disappointing to all those readers that purchased Lloyd’s 2004 book “What the Media are Doing to our Politics”. It is clear that John Lloyd is nothing more than yet another mainstream media muppet of the neocon storyline. The more they say it apparently the more true they believe it becomes. In any case, I suppose I could overlook the obvious hypocrisy if it were well thought out. However, Lloyd seems to miss the one most likely option, the China factor.
“Russia has the capability and the wisdom to overcome the existing hardship in the economic situation,” Foreign Minister Wang Yi told journalists, China Daily reported Monday. “If the Russian side needs it, we will provide necessary assistance within our capacity.” In a recent piece I published, I discuss the clear motivation of the Western Alliance to crush Russia is an attempt to contain the obvious new world dominating force, China. You see China has just surpassed the US as the world’s top economy. Its military is by far the largest military in the world though probably not the most sophisticated, yet. But there is no rational mind that argues China will not be the world’s single superpower in a mere 20 years if not sooner. The Western Alliance (which is the collective of Western leaders that have long controlled global policies), however, is not so rational. The central banking cartel along with the Western Alliance are not going down without a fight.
The problem is that by way of pure demographics the Western Alliance concedes a majority of the world’s assets will be owned by the East within the next few years and with majority of wealth typically comes control. James Wolfensohn, ex president of the World Bank, lays out the global power shift very clearly in his address at Stanford University. But so how does the Western Alliance hold onto global control whilst no longer holding the majority of the world’s assets? Well that is the challenge James presents to students in his address. In reality the Western Alliance is not calmly passing the challenge onto these future leaders but is very much initiating the battle to end all battles. You see it is natural for the Alpha dog to eventually pass on the crown. It happens in all top-of-the-food-chain species, lions, wolves, bears, etc. The dominating male will eventually be challenged by a more impressive up and comer. And while that alpha dog can hold onto his top rank for a few years past his prime by putting on a show of strength eventually it comes down to his last fight.
I see that as where America and the Western Alliance stands today. You see we’ve been barking very loud and putting on an impressive show of strength by taking on very weak challengers since the beginning of the new millennium, however, the real challenger is China. And we’ve all known that for some time. As Wolfensohn discusses it is becoming a now or never reality for the Western Alliance. Either they find a way to contain the impressive beast or they give up their Alpha status. And so here they are in the fight for global control. In that earlier piece I wrote I describe how the Western Alliance is targeting energy, as it is China’s achilles heel. China’s energy source for the future is Russia. Given its economic, military and energy prowess, a Sino-Soviet Alliance will trump the Western Alliance. The objective then is to destroy the Soviet variable before the Sino-Soviet Alliance is fortified. Control China’s energy and you can contain China.
Clearly Russia’s future has very little to do with the Western world and so they have no motive to start wars with the West. There is nothing to gain by doing so. However, they have every motive to defend themselves against Western aggression. And so if you see Russian aggression with the West it can only be defensive in nature. Nations (other than North Korea) do not act in a way that is to the detriment of its political class. Because warring with the West presents no possible upside but significant downside for Russia and her leaders, they will actually be willing to do everything in their power to prevent such a scenario.
However, as we discussed above, the Western Alliance has only one option to secure its global control and that is to contain China and the only way to contain China is via Russian energy. Thus, the Western Alliance has every reason to war with Russia. Behaviour (for rational minds) is always logical and so we can use logic to come to the truth about behaviour by looking at the logical results of actions. If an action seems to be detrimental to a particular subject nation’s political class, then the action would be illogical and thus will not be taken. If an action is the only course of survival for a nation, or more pertinently its political class, then you can be damn certain that action will be taken. Looking at the Russian conflict then from a logical context, it really becomes not up for debate that the Western Alliance must be the aggressor.
But so ok, we are doing what we need to in order to secure our dominance and perhaps there are working class folks that may agree with such a policy. Sounds simple enough according to John Lloyd. As he lays out, the two options for Putin and Russia are to either lose or lose badly. But when John pulls his head out his ass or decides to speak with some integrity rather than selling himself out as a politician’s town crier he will admit that things won’t be so simple. China’s future growth is dependent on Russian energy, and so on Russia itself. As such, China will never allow the Western Alliance to crush Russia as China understands the end objective is not a containment of Russia but China itself. I made the point in the previous article that China will not only step in economically, which we’ve already seen by example with the signed energy deals and now explicitly stating they will back the Russian economy but, if comes to it, China will be prepared to step in militarily, they have no choice.
That is a very scary WWIII proposition and one might wonder why in the hell are we headed in that direction? It is obviously not something citizens of any involved countries would want. Again the reason goes back to that very natural process of Alpha selection. It requires a final fight of the Alpha dog, the one in which he loses his reign of power to a new more impressive Alpha dog. Sometimes this is done without violence when the Alpha simply knows he is no longer top dog and he moves on. Often times it ends is horrible violence.
Unfortunately with quarreling societies the political class does not fight its own battles. They send their soldiers out to kill and be killed on their behalf. You can be certain if the killing and being killed was to be done by those cowards making the decision to war with Russia and ultimately China, that the passing of the torch would be a very quiet and uneventful one. But unfortunately the massacre will be of the working class while the political class remains warm and well fed in their thrones and castles.
In the end, who is making global policy decisions affects no one but the political class. It is their world of power and luxury from ill gotten gains that is on the line. The rest of us go about our day to day business with no consciousness of what takes place at that level of control. Ultimately perhaps a change in power would lead to an improving quality of life for the masses rather than just for the .1% at the top and that would be a very good change.
We the people can allow our political class to kill and maim hundreds of thousands of our brave young men and women but there is no alternative outcome to China becoming the global superpower. That is certain. And look, we would all rather be in control than not in control but China’s certainty of power comes from the size of its bourgeoning population not from some sinister plot to take over the world despite what Western media would have you believe. And so we shouldn’t fear a power shift.
As Russia seems to be doing, we should find ways to optimize the way in which we can progress from the change. I remember reading a book as un undergrad called “Who Stole My Cheese”. The book was a brilliant highly acclaimed few words of wisdom on why and how change can be a good thing. But the successful transition during periods of change is a function of our own perspectives. If we continue to drink the poison from our political class poured from the cups of mainstream media our future is grim. However, if we the people, take the powers invested in us by way of the Constitution, we can take the inevitable coming power shift and apply our new role in a way that creates incredibly positive outcomes.
I find it so disturbingly illogical that we Americans are willing to die so that our political class can enjoy ill gotten riches and power yet we cower when it comes to defending our great nation against the political class, something our founding fathers pleaded for us to do. The truth, which the political class legislates so hard for us to overlook, is that they are powerless without us. It is us that fight their fights, fund their wars and enforce their laws that enslave us yet we bow down and call them Mr. President and Madame Secretary. And so I ask each and everyone of you, when will we wake up and recognize that we are the power and the wealth and that the political class has only managed, through deception, to harness our strengths and pass them off as their own? For until that day of awakening, we will continue to live as an oppressed people ruled by others for others.
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the glass is half oppressed
http://www.philiacband.com/propaganda.html
The only thing that can be expected from the next US president is more war, more murder, and more oppression of the gullible American people.
People as uninformed and as gullible as Americans have no future. Americans are a dead people that history is about to run over. - Paul Craig Roberts
Why does one take it? Because they also own control the courts and the police.
There is a script. It is being followed. All of this anal ISIS is kind of funny.
China knows this and Russia understands that and USA is thus and Saudi is cunning and ....what a load of poppycock.
The replay of 1913 to 1947, with a re-jigged set of actors and rules has been obvious to most reasonably sharp minds for a while now.
A new Axis and a new set of allies.
Same old same old. Villify them, glorify those, put lipstick on a pig, sloganeer some.....
Bah, humbug!
The sooner Russia occupies Ukraine and destroys its war machine the better, simply because that failed state will be in a total state of chaos and unable to get any kind of military assistance from NATO.
Better for whom? Certainly, not for Russia, since it will have on it's hands a bankrupt state of 45 million people most of which were successfully brainwashed in the last 20 years into believing that all their woes are the result of Russian wrongdoing. Nah, Russia won't be interested in this kind of Ukraine.
This time Ukraine will be wellfaring on Europe's resources, courtesy of their freindly neighbour Vicky "I was handing out sandwiches, not cookies" Nuland.
I think we should pass a law stating that whenever war is waged, all the senators sons & daughters, as well as congress and the presidents children, are in the front line. I bet you'll see much less war that way.
Do not count on a failure of NATO to act. In Jan, 1914, how many people thought that in several months, the start of a war that was going to kill 20 million people would start? We don't think that it could happen now because we're broke, and that means that the consequences would be greater than anything previously experienced by humankind. We can conceptualize what would happen, but we cannot understand it on a visceral level, for it is so terrible. For this reason, we tell ourselves that it cannot happen. We are living in a world that is unsustainable, and that which cannot be sustained will not be. I will not tell you how it will fail to be sustained, just that most will not be happy when it comes to pass and that you should not discount total war as one of the many possibilities.
YEAH RIGHT... JUST WHAT WE NEED NOW ACCORDING TO THIS ARTICLE IS MOB RULE..
As I've said here before... Hope you all enjoy killing each other!
Oh yeah, And don't call 911 for anything ever again.
Thanks!
LOL! Go fly away.
And the bankers (whatever Race or religion they are supposed to represent) sit in the background paying for everything with money conjured up with the Guarantee that the debt slaves will pay it back or they will destroy the system.That sounds like blackmail or to use the words of the dear leaders "terrorism"
Destroy the system. There will be LOT less dead, arrest the bankers and start over with no debt. We just might have a better system, at least for a while?
The Ruble is up again tonight in the FX market; having made a good looking bottom when they anounced the shock and awe, "Volckerism", interest rate hike. It's beginning to look like a brilliant move on the chessboard. It's the pigeon's turn, again. I hope he doesn't knock all the pieces down and shit on the board.
Sounds like Russian propagada...and a desperate attempt at that!
nothing will change until people understand what is wrong but seems they can't. Americans prefer football from what's really going outside their small world
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From the approximately four percent who qualify as psychopaths to the approximately four percent who qualify as not being psychopaths are approximately 92 percent who share varying degrees of psychopathy with the full blown loonies.
In the alpha-male social hierarchy of our tribal ancestors almost everyone wanted to be the alpha because it meant a much better chance of passing on your genes.
The general population still bears that desire to control others as a means to promote their survival and reproduction, even though the benefit has pretty much disappeared.
"The general population still bears that desire to control others as a means to promote their survival and reproduction, even though the benefit has pretty much disappeared."
No work, multiple million dollar homes in multiple countries, Multiple exotic autos, planes, boats, Waited on by employees , armed protection, Travel anywhere any time. Fine dinning every time you eat. The list is almost endless.
Yeah the benefit is almost hard to comprehend?
The next superpower--there won't be one, the world is going to hell on a rocket sled.
Russia--a society of drunks and whores
China--a carcinogenic, toxic waste dump with 50 million desperate men who can't find women
America--an obese welfare state wallowing in pornographic gluttony
All three--controlled by kleptocratic, corrupt, sadistic and very evil oligarchs.
The future--we are staring at the end of history.
Without a doubt, the end of history as we know it.
The rules are changing fast, technology is changing the game, for better AND for worse.
2014 was a pivot year, next year is going to be crazy!
A swing year, literally and figuratively...
heading towards self extinction
China and Russia will not be "contained".
Here's to the day of the awakening of the sheeple.
eb
"We've just pissed in our pants and nobody can do a thing about it"!...
To the "new frontier"!... The king is dead... Long live the king!
one of the great cinematic silloquys. are most of us timmons?
The fact someone downvoted that comment is proof we have .gov trolls or neo s amongst us on ZH
And they are the ones screaming "liberal scum" and "republitard".
It's odd that you quoted "contained". I was just thinking you could replace "Contain China" with "Enslave China" and get nearer to the truth of what these sociopaths are thinking, because that is essentially what the puppeteers behind the Western powers want - enslavement. Pretty obvious by the way we've been treated. Behind the facade of respectability and high ideals, shoving "liberty and freedom" in the form of fraud, theft, murder, and propaganda until even the morons are starting to gag on the hypocrisy.
I was staring at the DJI chart just now. 18k! One has to wonder how the flipping fuckety bollocking hell it got there when all one has to do to gauge the current economic climate is look out of the window. The disconnect between reality and the narrative run by TPTB is an unreconcilable chasm of titanic proportions. It's like living in Euro Disney land. A nightmare for any adult who can see the inner workings of childish cons and slave wages behind the facade of painted smiles and crumbling cheap plaster.
Allow me to help.
Lets put ratios aside, and look at book values. http://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-price-to-book
This shitshow is a joke. It boils down to (1) thing. Devaluation and over capacity are outstripping DEMAND.
No. It is about power.
An excess of installed capacity, steel production for instance, is one of the invariable conditions of a major depression; which is where we are. The pig with lipstick on it that we're being sold as a "recovery" will look a lot different in the rear view mirror.
It's depressing, I know. But I also know that as the world descends into a dark fascist hell, never before have so many people been awake to the complicity of central banks. More people than ever are "getting it."
If so, the why is not one goddamn thing being done about them? All I see is a bunch of fucking sheep. Pisses me off to no end.
I know "some" are getting it, and backing out of the system like me. I, every fucking day, every thing I do, do EVERYTHING I can to minimize my footprint, pay as few taxes as possible, and try to develop grey or black markets for everything I can. Why don't we have MANY more doing this?
This is the only way to slow them down they have to be starved to death.
Starve the Beast
When people are starving in the streets they will "get it" real quick.
when peopleare starving they will be happy to vote for anyone who promises them a better life, usually a group will be singled out as being responsible for the problems and that group will be attacked. at the moment the oligarch's media are demonising russia. most people will not look at the facts, e.g. beheadings which country regularly beheads people - saudi but nothing is heard about that because thwey are "our bad guys" which country has unlike the rst of the world many foreign bases - usa but that is for defending democracy ...
JohnG wrote: “why is not one thing being done about? A bunch of fucking sheep.”
John, can you blame the stupid and ignorant sheep? Do you think they will ever understand the catastrophic human failure that we will be facing?
Do you really think that, if the sheeple were given the power, the sheeple would be able to change our bleak future?
Also, do you think that the ‘US Money-Power,” the ones in control of the Global Reserve Currency, America's exorbitant privilege (Charles de Gaulle) as it resulted in an asymmetric financial system where foreigners see themselves supporting American living standards and subsidizing American multinationals, would let you take charge, alongside of the sheeple?
Darling, the fucking sheep are lucky. You will see what will happen when this party ends…. You will miss these days.
Yes, I blame the sheep for being ignorant. It is thier fault, no one else's, that they are ignorant and don't understand what's happenning. Fuck, they voted for it.
They are not lucky, they are just going to be dead.
I won't miss these days. I'll be 65 next year. What I miss now is the country I grew up in. It all went to hell in the 60's, got worse in the 70's, banks took over in the 80's and its just been hell to watch.
And I blame the ignorant sheep for letting it happen.
A nation of sheep didn't just happen - it was made. Dewey, Ford and Rockefeller declared they would make a nation (of sheep) "molded by their hands". IQ and standards have declined ever since.
I get it, I do. The books are still in the library, all the sheep had to do was read.
It does seem many are still asleep but more and more are waking up. At some point, hopefully, we will hit a turnng point. The 100th monkey theory.
http://www.wowzone.com/monkey.htm
So JohnG what is your list of recommended books so that people can educate themselves?>
The Creature from Jekyl Island.
A New Liberty
Confessions of an Economic Hitman
Gulliver's Travels--Jonathan Swift nailed it 300 years ago.
Anything by Lott, Bastiat, Rothbard, Mises, Ron Paul
Timelines about right :-) The cancer / rot really set in so that trying to remove the rot when it is 90% is pointless only the total removal and start again now has any worth. THAT IS A RESET.
What peeves me and the sheep is that the sheep were in most cases lied to yet they still keep voting for the "supposed" democracy instead of holding the poitical class to account for lieing, theft and fraud.
THAT MEANS ... DON'T FUCKING VOTE BECAUSE YOU GIVE THEM CONCENSUS TO DO WHAT THE FUCK THEY WANT WHEN THEY WANT AND THE SHEEP KNOW IT IS A BRIBE EVERY TIME. Can you see the issues in there? This social system was chosen because it keeps those at the top and all political parties are many heads of the same beast. Note:-
To all sheep, if the system lets you have 1 million bucks just means they will create 1000000x that tomorrow so that million is worth no more than a dollar once again. DUMB FUCKING SHEEP.
Now look around you at the people and see how few have your same set of ideals because the political class kept on fragmenting society to keep getting reelected even though they lie. Turfing them out until the political class are forced to keep their promises for once because then a majority of people (with similar ideals) would have won through would they not? THAT'S A UNIFICATION.
Unification of a society cannot happen, they will never allow it because it is how they rule so all who support this wil be called terrorists in some form.
You leave no footprint in society? Me? Would rather see the society and sheep being eradicated so I can leave my footprints anywhere. GREAT!
The winter of '14-'15 will be remembered fondly as those good old days.
A thoughtful comment that is not incorrect. I up-voted you in order to balance whatever dim-bulb downvoted you; although I usually refrain.
The article gives some valid analysis, but it references the "political class" as the decision makers, ignoring the financial class that enables and directs them. The fucking sheep are mostly in line with the political class as the decision makers and cling to the hope that voting and political action can change the direction of government policy. It should be stressed to the fucking sheep that the financial class makes or breaks the politicians.
Because only an idiot would openly talk about doing things that would get them put into prison.
Like Katharine Teresa Gun for example. Fucking sheep
That's another contributing factor to our dismal economy. Slowly grinding this SOB to a halt unveils the handle pullers to everyone and allows it to soak in. A quick collapse gives them cover while a slow one shows their step by step spiral into desparation. Keep on keeping on!
yeah, but we have a bunch of people, even on this board, who think central bankers, or to precise, the owners of central banks, the international or merchant bankers according to quigley, aren't controlling both sides of the conflict.
the rise of china, bigger debt ponzi than the US, and destruction of the US, its industrial base, liberties, society etc, are just too obvious.
" The central banking cartel along with the Western Alliance are not going down without a fight. "
even the author doesn't get that, that red shields have set up shop in china, is no accident. if you allow me to fasten my tin-foil, my personal conspiracy theory is that, that's why gold is heading east, as they consider central bank's (their proxies) gold to be theirs. which means they have already placed their bets.
There is no more aware people on the planet of the yids and their schemes than the Russians and the Chinese , as their cultures predate khazaria.
Power to the people!!!!!!!
The people who used to chant that back in the 60's now chant "power to the federal government and central bankers"
Not all of us.
Calm down Citezin Smith.
Damned right. We should get the government to pass a law against that or something.
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slaves
Climate change will kill us all anyway.
Nuclear winter
you forgot the sarcasm tag.
You are exactly right, in about 2 billion years, the earth's atmosphere will be ripped away by an expanding sun. Noone will survive. On a long enough timeline.....
We oppressed some folks. We'll start a committee on that right away.
I’ve had a lovely Christmas day. Ate food sustenance & fell into a food coma. There is hope for this upcoming generation. I honestly had to watch this five times to catch every subliminal message they incorporated. Pure genius.
This song is nearly 25-30 years old. Watch and enjoy. These kids remind me of myself at that age. Full of piss, vinegar, and raunchy humor. Kudos to these brilliant minded young Americans.
Butthole Surfers - Pepper (unofficial)
Appears that I was down voted by the liberal media. Great job you kids did on video. Never stop pushing the envelope, you’re the next generation. Just kindly tell them to piss off. We have managed to maintain this for 30+ years.
It's getting dicey, we need you to help. No club to join, just be yourself. United States of America is a great place, we just have bed bugs in Washington DC. Winks
The video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAd1WJ9gXo0
I'm sorry but I don't want to be an emperor. That's not my business. I don't want to rule or conquer anyone. I should like to help everyone if possible; Jew, Gentile, black men, white. We all want to help one another. Human beings are like that. We want to live by each others' happiness, not by each other's misery. We don't want to hate and despise one another. In this world there is room for everyone. And the good earth is rich and can provide for everyone. The way of life can be free and beautiful, but we have lost the way.
Greed has poisoned men's souls; has barricaded the world with hate; has goose-stepped us into misery and bloodshed. We have developed speed, but we have shut ourselves in. Machinery that gives abundance has left us in want. Our knowledge as made us cynical; our cleverness, hard and unkind. We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. The aeroplane and the radio have brought us closer together. The very nature of these inventions cries out for the goodness in man; cries out for universal brotherhood; for the unity of us all.
Even now my voice is reaching millions throughout the world, millions of despairing men, women, and little children, victims of a system that makes men torture and imprison innocent people. To those who can hear me, I say "Do not despair." The misery that is now upon us is but the passing of greed, the bitterness of men who fear the way of human progress. The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish.
Soldiers! Don't give yourselves to brutes, men who despise you and enslave you; who regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to think and what to feel! Who drill you, diet you, treat you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder! Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men---machine men with machine minds and machine hearts! You are not machines! You are not cattle! You are men! You have a love of humanity in your hearts! You don't hate! Only the unloved hate; the unloved and the unnatural.
Soldiers! Don't fight for slavery! Fight for liberty! In the seventeenth chapter of St. Luke, it's written "the kingdom of God is within man", not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you! You, the people, have the power, the power to create machines, the power to create happiness! You, the people, have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure. Then in the name of democracy, let us use that power.
Let us all unite. Let us fight for a new world, a decent world that will give men a chance to work, that will give youth a future and old age a security. By the promise of these things, brutes have risen to power. But they lie! They do not fulfill their promise. They never will! Dictators free themselves but they enslave the people! Now let us fight to fulfill that promise! Let us fight to free the world! To do away with national barriers! To do away with greed, with hate and intolerance! Let us fight for a world of reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all men's happiness.
Soldiers, in the name of democracy, let us all unite!
No thanks.
Nevermind, screw it, let's do it. I'll go to the looney bin with ya, I don't give a fuck!--(Gramma's Boy)
Why should I fight under your banner rather than some other guy's. You are right Dexter he is a looney. If it comes to a fight then I fight for myself and family not for you so that you can impose your system on me and others. You won't be any better at ruling than what we have now.
Charlie Chaplin was far better of an actor during his silent film saga. Film enthusiasts could blink and miss the progressive message.
Thank you charlie chaplin...i needed that....
for the west, can't see any face savin' way out of this seemingly imminent mother of all contretemps . maybe they're thinkin' they'll get lucky and emerge from a "hot" heap more intact than china/russia.
russia,china vs america
First of all the west has fucked up. prior the start of the syrian war/ukrainian crisis, russia has always looked to the west and wanted to be part of it on equal footing.but stupidity over syria and most definately ukraine has changed the attitude of russia, and the west has to be blamed for russia becoming best of friends with china.i dont understand why the west needs a war with russia to contain it and put pressure on china where they had russia as a friend until a year ago.and now good luck with that
here is an article that states russia and us relations are poisoned for decades to come from prime minister medvedev
http://rt.com/politics/216967-medvedev-ukraine-russia-usa/
russia is an energy superpower it has all the raw materials that china needs.
the west made china and russia very close and a competitor to the west because they feel threatened and they both know that america wants to keep them down.what did we expect that these guys just to sit back and say ohh well.
overall the usa and impotent europe are to blame for this and now their is nothing we can do about it.so much for soft cock war tactics.
I think the looting of Lybia might have been a turning point in the attitudes of the Russians and the Chinese towards the West. Both had significant investments and large numbers of workers there, on worthwile projects and the way "Justice" was meted out to Ghadaffi by Western supported fanatics and mercenaries (despite what he may have done) was despicable.
Empire of Chaos
I am sure the Chinese still remember the NATO deliberate bombing of their embassy in Belgrade which was an act of war in itself.
Hardly. Nothing the Empire did in Lybia has been shockingly anew. They have been doing "Lybia" for over half a century, and prior to that scum from City of London (from which you Americans, just like the rest of us in the Anglozinist occupied world, are run from) had done the same via the British Empire. We need to burn that hellhole, that satanic lair, to the ground and finish the story your founding fathers have left undone! Therein lies the heart of the cancer which has infected us, and we need to cut&destroy it once and for all.
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Its funny how the sickman of Europe is now Europe.
Like all of you in the West are on "equal footing" hm? Anglozionists run the West, there are no z German, Dutch, Spanish, Italian or any other will there -- only your "dear leaders" or "powers-that-be" as you like to call them. They are all run by Anglozionist scum, so, you see, how unattractive that grotesque option/sugestion of yours look for heirs of the Varangian heritage as well as for the one of the oldest cultures on Earth.
Very stupid comment. Obviously Russinas are no Western degenerates and kudos for that. If only for that, they have proved they are the true descandents of Varangians. You, on the other hand, are nothing but Zionist whore, my friend.
p.s.
Do check out when the SCO was formed would you?!
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I'll tweet a link, everybody tweet a link! This damn article ought to be on the front page of all major newspapers. Especially the last paragraph.
But nobody reads papers anymore. or watches news, or pays attention to what the scumbag elite is doing to them. I guess we're just screwed until the lights go off.
People who write articles like this one just want all the power for themselves. Don't be fooled by his nonsense. The article made sense until the last paragraph. That was pure garbage.
On Christmas, I can forgive him the warm fuzzy feelies end.
Nice Article. But it does not explain why western leaders are going aggressive on Russia instead of using diplomacy. A large number of Russian leadership prefer to feel as Europeans. Only a small group feels themselves as Asian. Even now, Russia is moving closer to China only reluctantly.
Many Russian leaders have already been wondering why the west is pushing Russia towards China instead of working together to contain China.
The west has become very corrupt. That corruption has to be paid for. West needs more resources (Russia) to make more people (China) work for them. Russia is a pure competitor to west in that sense, as Russia dreams of sitting on the throne of world power "together" with the west. The west being corrupt and bankrupt, cannot allow Russia and the world know its real financial condition. Printing money cannot create wealth. It has to be used to buy wealth. Russia has been refusing to sell its assets.
The only answer that west has and has been using, is the destruction of the ruling classes of the country with natural resources. Then take over the resources at fire sale prices. Nothing new here. West knows that China will never be a problem today or in the future. They are defensive by character. West has been the aggressor and they are also the biggest consumer of natural resources. Chinese accumulation of natural resources are only to serve the western industrial needs to combine with its cheap labor.
The western way of life, is for a power hungry beast. It is finally showing its fangs. No more nice guy. No time, I think, because bankruptcy is near.
One of the most bizarre things is the hatred the USA-ZWO goes after Russia and Putin but plays so very nice with China.
I am sure the Chinese understand that they are the real target. It is so obvious.
Don't underestimate the hubris (read stupidity) of American leaders.
"They are errand boys... sent by grocery clerks."
the Chinese can be quite aggressive
they are just waiting for the right time
they are playing the game as long as they benefit
but they are communist, China and Russia
they do have long term plans that do not include the US being a major player
don't be fooled by the present situation
Which Chinese are you referencing? I've worked with many almost everyday for the past 10 years. i find them to be humble, helpful, diligent, and just as confused by the "Party" politics as everyone else.
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I can understand what the author is saying. But I personally see Russia as the next main power. The blessings they have in their land in the form of gas, oil, minerals, etc., that makes Russia the main power player because they will be truly independent while others (China) will be dependent on them for energy.
Whenever you rely on others for the vital functions of your country (energy), the less independent you are.
Russia IS Eurasia, and the Zionists that currently rule the world have been salivating to take over it for a long time.
They lack people,
plus their dominant cultural mindset has some... shortcomings, to be really large scale successful.
Whenever you rely on others for the vital functions of your country (energy), the less independent you are.
The City-states excluded?
Tough though.
US - 1000 overseas military bases. Occupying Europe, turkey, japan, Australia
Russia 10 - all in it's backyard.
Here, @ ZH, "most", comprehend...Out there, "most", could care less.
good piece!
I know little about the system in Russia, but I am not Russian, so let the Russians deal with the Kremlin.
I do know a lot about the DC US occupiers of the American county.
Everything the DC US is doing, from the treason of their local goons, to their crimes against humanity while bombing schools, and wedding parties, overseas is criminal in one way or another.
They must go.
The banksters need to repay us.
Some public executions might be a good start.
The Wall St Banksters need to go....
1. Nato-nazis got their asses kicked by vacationing Russians.
2. Crimea is never going back to Nato-nazism or Nato-nazis, same with Donbas or the rest of Novorussiya.
3. Ruble has recovered, there is no crisis in Russia, Russians support Putin over 90%.
Dude, the ruble was overvalued anyway. The devaluation was the natural response since they floated the ruble last November; it was bound to happen. The RCB just let it happen, upped rates and the ruble recovered about 40%. Sanctions/price of oil/etc was just nice cover for them. With those rates (17%!!) capital will be flowing to Russia.
Brilliant fucking move if you ask me.
Good additional insight.
Good additional insight.
I appreciate your sentiment Thad, but according to history, once a democracy (government of, for and by the People) is overthrown by fascist (merger of corporate monopoly with government) it will take a home grown army and a revolution to restore democracy. That struggle may take 100 years and cost millions of American lives before our democracy is restored and a Free Market economy (FREE from corporate monopoly) is restored.
Americans were ready to clean house of the fascist bastards in government in the 60’s but our leader was murdered (JFK) and the revolution was bought off with food stamps and welfare payments.
Get rid of American welfare and you will have a revolution in a week. Three days without eating and a revolutionary is born overnight.
Couple of things.
The reason boys and girls go off to war is because their mothers' let them. I put it mostly on them. Have your mom call you a loser for joining the military because you don't want to work a better paying minimum wage job in whatever shithole little town you're from. That's what the military is. It's welfare for people in small towns who think they're making people proud.
Second: China is a US vassal state. It's not a growing power. Their elite are captured by the West. They've managed to steal more than anyone can imagine. They're not going to toe to toe with the US on anything. The saber rattling in the South China Sea? Nothing. They don't have a ship that can reach Hawaii. They're weak. They're running America's factories right now.
"Second: China is a US vassal state. It's not a growing power. Their elite are captured by the West. They've managed to steal more than anyone can imagine. They're not going to toe to toe with the US on anything. The saber rattling in the South China Sea? Nothing. They don't have a ship that can reach Hawaii. They're weak. They're running America's factories right now."
And this is why, as the article points out, the Chinese need Russia (and vice versa) for their survival as an independent state. Russia does have all the means to obliterate the U.S. many times over, from the land, sea, underwater, air and outer space. Needless to say, the U.S. has capabilities to do the same to Russia and China. This is why the neocons ideology is so anti-American and anti-humanity. The elites have built underground cities for their own survival and the survival of some limited number of their 'slaves' (neocons fit this category) for the aftermath of WW3 nuclear holocaust. These underground cities are where most likely a big chunk of the missing Pentagon's trillions has gone to, imho. So now, the neocons theorize that a nuclear war is winnable for the U.S.
UPDATE: Russia’s new military doctrine lists NATO, US as major foreign threats
Official United States Government Definition of Terrorism
"[An] act of terrorism, means any activity that (A) involves a violent act or an act dangerous to human life that is a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State; and (B) appears to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by assassination or kidnapping.
Ironically, the only terrorists operating against the American people, and country, have taken an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution.
The banksters need to repay us.
The 4 T's of the DC US government: theft, treason, tyranny, and terrorism.
This is a good read. Thought provoking. But there is another scenario that should be considered: Germany and Russia form a grand alliance. Further more: a Russian + German + Chinese alliance.
There is no reason for the Germans to remain in a subordinate role in the American-dominated New World Order. Together, Russia and Germany have the economic heft to play a role as equals with China. The respective national interests of these three countries complement each other far more than they conflict. Only American national interests are bring the Germans and Russians into confrontation instead of cooperation.
There is no reason for the Germans to remain in a subordinate role in the American-dominated New World Order.
Aaaa but Gemany is occupied by the US military, no? First things first.
They are already working on it, and German big business is salivating at the prospect, just waiting for the opportune time to kick out that AngloZionist marionette Merkel first. The 'West' as we know it is finished, only question is how they will go...quietly, or with violent final spasms?
I read your article. The ¶ that I found compelling was close to the end of your feelings.
I find it so disturbingly illogical that we Americans are willing to die so that our political class can enjoy ill gotten riches and power yet we cower when it comes to defending our great nation against the political class, something our founding fathers pleaded for us to do.
Its really kinda simple Thad. Hike out six miles or so and look down. No more individuals, only the colony. The ridigity of the hierarchy is a given. The American founders were an anomoly. They lived and communicated in a brief time where the spirit of the individual might have meant something.
Same Shit Different Shape
The story on planet earth forever
Nicely said.
Ukraine is a proxy war for Russia is a proxy war for China.
Isolated? ROTFLMFAO
Don't forget calling them Honorable. .. That's the worst fucking name of all.
The US and its Western flunkies are going to lose or lose very badly in terms of an obliterated and irradiated landscape. The Russians and the Chinese have already started to combine their economic and technological potential. It is now in China’s interest to protect Russia. The dumb idiots in Washington have created the scenario they most feared.
To ask when will people wake up and fight back seems to me like asking; who will bell the cat ? Many want change but then they see what happens to those who dare stand up to the system, they're fiancially ruined by the system or throw in prison for life or driven into exile. Mass protest movements are maced and clubbed into submission, individuals are isolated and destroyed one by one. So there is fear of the system but also lack of leadership and direction. Who will bell the cat ? It must be a movement, no individuals are powerful enough, there is no leadership. There's no vision of what to replace the system with or how, how do we tear down what we are standing on ? The money and power and most of the brains are all on the side of the establishment. Insiders who try to go against the interests of the powers that be are attacked like invading bacteria in a kind of immune reaction. Outsiders are never really able to be a threat, even mass movements like the recent anti wall street crowds are hopelessly pre-empted, countered or brutally crushed by hundreds of heavily armed riot police. It doesn't help that many people seem disingaged in politics, seemingly not caring who is elected, perhaps because it doesn't seem to matter who is elected. The people have been beaten down, beaten into submission by the very system that they need to change. Not only has the system developed an immune system against the electorate but the same immune system has degraded the population by weakening the education system and lowering the quality of employment, longer hours, less pay, less vacation time, less time to fight back if everyone's living from paycheck to paycheck. Too dumbed down by the schooling they recieved. There's a wall been build up between the people and the master class that is running things. It's a wall like that between the east and west. If the sun is setting on the west, it's because of this wall. There were once things like equality and freedom and justice in the west, that are now pale shadows of what they were, they were the reason for the west's asendancy in the first instance, without laws that all understand and are applied equally and are seen to be applied to all. The system breaks down. It becomes warped in the direction of whatever privledged class is on top. Without a healthy enviroment for people to live in and co-operate and compete and reach their true innate potentials, that society underperforms. The worse the inequalities get the worse the nation performs against it's peers. Thank you !
AMEN BROTHER. it is up to us to vote our values, including reestablishing a market economy again by doing so in our purchase and investment decisions. A fractional reserve banking system inherently requires the support of or submission by the people. A small minority can only create the appearance of control. In reality, we control the path through the decisions we make. They simply cannot control the emergent behavior of the system.
amen is another name of zion, an evil god.
All is not what it seems.
Wakey, Wakey.
Not so sure about that one Rock on Roger.
http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/chapter-forty-one.html
ATON - NATO?
AMEN was the other egyption tribe.
Akhenaton
Amenhotep
I wasn't alive then, and it is controversial.
It is a very interesting theory of ancient history.
Worth the read, I have both books.
http://www.irishoriginsofcivilization.com/chapter-ten.html
http://www.amazon.com/Irish-Origins-Civilization-One-Traditions-ebook/dp...
http://www.amazon.com/Irish-Origins-Civilization-Two-Akhenaton-ebook/dp/...
If this author is right, we have been living the lie for a long long time...
all peoples = an oppressed people ruled by others for others
The U.S. is attacking BOTH Russia and China - but using different weapons on each of the two targets, based on the CIA assessment of their vulnerabilities.
Against Russia you use colored revolutions, as in Ukraine, and you surround Russia with anti-Russians and you take away Russia's growing control over strategic resources. If the Russian bear decides to bite you, then you wage an economic war to collapse the economy, Putin's support, and thereby instigate a revolution inside Russia itself.
Against China you use an assertive Japan and a pliant India combined with a U.S. military pivot to China's neighborhood in a policy of containment / retrenchment of China's growing regional influence. You also throw another potent weapon at China - domestic unrest, starting in Hong Kong. You thereby signal to China's leaders that the U.S. is ready, willing and able to throw down the gauntlet and make China suffer enormous costs and damage in its effort to displace the U.S. hegemon.
These are all very potent weapons - this is WWIII, except it has begun in an unexpected fashion with "cold" weapons rather than "hot" ones. But a hot war is becoming inevitable now.
If Russia-China wants to play NWO-architects, the costs will be enormous. The U.S. is giving them pause. But it is also giving them tremendous impetus to move forward - but it will have to be careful, deliberate, stealthy, and very smart forward movement.
Ironically, as the U.S. brings its arsenal of potent weapons increasingly to bear upon Russia-China to compel them to break off their moves against the petrodollar OWO, those very moves are convincing the two that unless they wish to be slaves under the U.S. fist for the forseeable future, they have no choice but to move forward to the creation of their NWO.
Bottom line: The U.S. is making happen what it doesn't want to happen.
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Russian Rubicon - Impending Checkmate of the West.
...and yet, NONE of those laughable and amateurish US 'attack' strategies are working, except in your head. Putin is toying with Obama and his incompetent kindergarten team in a game where Putin is making 10 moves ahead, a team that now includes a madman in McCain and the equally out of their depth neocons. China tolerated the Hongkong occupiers then simply moved in and broke them up, easily. India IS NOT going to join the US in any anti-Russia or anti-China alliance, not unless you are smoking something very potent. Do you share?
It's an insult for you to use the moniker "Yakhont" (which is an incredibly respectable Russian supersonic missile) and then to post such inane nonsense.
Russia and China are suffering very potent harm directly as a result of the U.S. hegemon's WWIII strategies. Open your eyes to the facts, Russia sycophant! More harm is on the way, too.
Having said that - I still predict that Russia-China will find potent asymmetric responses which will eventually hand them the victory over the U.S. "hyperpower" - the U.S. will collapse to the position of first among superpowers, and this collapse will be very destructive and very painful, not only for the U.S. itself but also for the rest of the world as hot wars result from the transition to a new Eastern-centered NWO.
I will admit that perhaps I haven't been around that long, but it seems pretty apparent that everything the US is doing (along with other western countries) pushes Russia and China closer together. While maybe we don't have the smartest people at the helm, I can't believe they're so stupid not to even have an inkling their actions are in opposition to their goals.
That said, can there be some other explanation?
It is being done on purpose.
All you pro- control russian freaks are fuked up.............
The due has lost........
Do you really want to live in siberia??????
The Putin pussy brigade is at it agian...
Praising a government that kills peopel that they do not like and no rule of law...
Enjoy your stay in siberia....
The USA is way better, not perfect but way better than the putin dictatorship.......
$40 oil for 5 years will destroy the guy and then we will let them rebuild...
If you'all do not think this is planned then your as dumb as putin...............
Now if you would just enjoy your large screen TV Betterness in silence, everything would be fine. Find a new hobby like knitting instead of typing.
Lucky, maybe it would be a good idea to learn the difference between "your" and "you're" before calling us dumb.
I see you are hooked on 'Pussy Riot' then? They've really enlightened you hey? Must have been a riot! Nothing is more tragic than the illusion of knowledge.
It is rather wierd and curious to see a nation that claims to be the stronghold of democracy turning into a kind of necromonger empire. Wake up America! You're being lead by your gvt and elite into a totally wrong direction. You cannot let unscrupulous politicians and greedy banksters abuse the very fundamentals of your state laid down by the Founding Farthers! The time has come for the final choice to be made. WE THE PEOPLE or WE THE SHEEPLE? WHICH ARE YOU?
The problem is that by way of pure demographics the Western Alliance concedes a majority of the world’s assets will be owned by the East within the next few years and with majority of wealth typically comes control.
Let me get this straight,.. the "East" (meaning Commie China presumably) will soon own a majority of the world's assets (meaning a majority of the world's worthless IOUs) which will somehow extrapolate to a majority share of wealth and control? Some central bank fucktard gives a speech to an audience of mostly Chinky students at Stanford and this makes it so? Not bloody likely. Listen, the wildcard of wildcards in this global shitshow is the American people. When the time comes and they roar, the whole world had better duck.
the american people cannot and will not beat history. ask the brits about omnipotence and ruling the waves and sunsets and all that.
You must be getting it bent coz of all that weed and porn. The 'East' is ALL of Asia including China, Russia, South East Asia and India. North Korea will soon unify with the South and kick out US forces, and when that happens, even Japan will kick out those molesting their 12 year olds there. When the zombified Americans indeed do wake up, they will burn down congress, that's what. The rest of the world will get along just fine without America...no need to 'duck'. Duck from what? A joint?
I hesitated to link this, but it is good.
Men, regular men, can make a difference.
1914 Xmas Truce
http://www.firstworldwar.com/features/christmastruce.htm
I refuse to send or to allow my sons to die for the rule of oligarchs. Compulsory conscription into the military is no way to raise our children. If sheeple want to send their own daughters and sons off to die for the Big Lie, so be it. TPTB would love to draft all of the "useless eaters" into their war machine. I have no sympathy for anyone with such a mindset. Rage Against the Machine is my mantra. Sleep now in the fire, sheeple. I see a "re-education centre" in my future!
Herman Göring 18 Apr 1946
"Of course the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece?
Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany.
That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country
Old album by a great '70's English band "Gentle Giant," is called "The Power and the Glory." Take a listen, if you can find it, they were relatively obscure, except with the handful of musicians with whom I hung out in high school. There's a lot of excellent master/servant memes. DePeche Mode is another band, '80's, who wrote lyrics telling the truth about our - UK and USSA - "cultures."
I dont think I will be visiting this site anymore. Putins propoganda is so obvious at this site. US may not be angels but Putin is also not a solution to this world. And this site is full of Putins propoganda lies and its payed internet trolls.
bye!
Either that or it sucks to be on the wrong side eh
go away then
OMFG, I just don't know how we'll get along without you.
Crimea River
Go back to Obomber's propoganda sites: New York Times, Washington Post and the rest of the syphilitic presstitutes
Bye! Don't let ZH hold up your gay porn date. Is that latest gay parody of 'The 300' out yet? Who plays the deliciously tumescent Persian King? You?
Good bye.
Don't forget to keep paying your taxes to fund the next global war.
CNN will be happy to have you back.
Russia and China are now married at the hip so China is not "the real target", Russia/China is. They will act in unison from now on. There is no beating that by the West.
russia/china/india. don't forget india. modi knows the future of india lies in asia so their long time russian allies are patchinig the triumvirate together.
the war is lost already but there will be millions of people to kill before admitting it.
the japanese plan is the brilliant plan. no one realizes they know their future lies in asia and not the usa. they have said as much officially. if anyone thinks japan has the usa's back they are kidding themselves.
the reason japan wants to amend their constitution to allow an international military is to get the usa occupation forces out of the country for good and ally with china to protect the pacific trading routes. the military will also serve as defense against china. the goal is to eastablish an asia greater prosperity circle as a unitary economic zone ex-usa(except as a trading partner). japan and china already have a currency swap agreement for trade in their own currencies.
Leader vs social director
http://windowstorussia.com/leader-verses-social-director.html
In essence what we are witnessing is the forces of good versus evil. Of course, the Eastern Alliance is not all good, and the West is not all bad, but the those running the current paradigm are truly evil, and must be removed from power if there is going to be a real New World Order.
Globalism is finished. The move back to Sovereign States is inevitable. However, global trade will flourish under the new arrangements, and this trade will be fair and equitable and will benefit all parties. 2015 will be the year when the new paradigm begins.
Globalism is fininished only to make it totally possible. ...Get it?
The ways justifies the means thereof.. Global war will bring about unity, Globalism if you must. A demonic system if you will.
I'm in tge decentralization camp with you...it's an "idea" whose time has come if you will, although I think it's more a "reaction" opposite the corrupted action...no matter, no army can stop it still as there is little reason to work within the centralized system now and going forward.
Anf it's way too easy for many to minimize the effect internet is having...it makes me wonder how many 17th c. Folks were panning the influence the printing press was having and would still. "The Catholic church will crush this Protestant thing and the king will always run everything...nothing changes." they might have said. ;-)
According to George Carlin, who paraphrases Karl Marx, politicians and judges are simply puppets of those who own this fucking place. Not the other way around.
But the politicians and judges control legitimized violence...they aren't just puppets, they are co-conspirators. Carlin and Marx lacked that understanding.
And what about Marxist politicians? Some clearly aren't puppets of individual "owners"...though they are controlled by basic economics still.