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"We Are Taking A Stand For Freedom" - New Yorkers Explain Why They Are Waiting In Line To See "The Interview"
And just like that Americans got punk'd again.
From two of the countless New Yorkers waiting in line to see The Interview:
"We are taking a stand for freedom. We want to show the world that Americans won't be told what they can and can not see. If we want to see a movie we'll go see a movie and make up our own minds...."
"I came to express my very strong support for the free expression of ideas."
As Chris Rock said it.
I wanted to CHOOSE not to see The Interview.
— Chris Rock (@ozchrisrock) December 18, 2014
Alas when Americans have been conned into believing it is their patriotic duty to see it, they will do just that.
Now sit back and enjoy as "North Korea's unmatched computer geniuses" hack even more movie studios and "demand" Cutthroat Island 2, John Carter 2, Waterworld 2, the Postman 2, the Lone Ranger 2 and, of course, Police Academy 32 are likewise never released.
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Because nothing says Merry Christmas like good Hollywood propaganda.
Yep, masterful PR stunt directed at the sheeple...
Sony is laughing all the way to the bank!
I think it's only the Jew Yorkers that are lining up to watch that joke of a movie.
"As a holder of a dual passport, it's my patriotic duty to see a Seth Rogen, Evan Goldberg film."
Michael Lynton
CEO, Sony Entertainment, Inc.
Chairman and CEO, Sony Pictures Entertainment
Lynton was born in London in 1960. His parents, Marion and Mark Lynton, were executives at Hunter Douglas in the Netherlands.[3] His father, born Max-Otto Ludwig Loewenstein, was from a Jewish-German family. Max-Otto was born in 1920 in Stuttgart, Germany, and moved to Berlin two years later when his father was named head of a major German car manufacturing company. He later enlisted in the British military, where he served for seven years and worked for the British Intelligence, interrogating German officers
Mama always said: Stupid is as stupid does
Cant fix stupid
because n korea tried to hack the mortgage and auto loan and student debt systems, I can assure them that I shall be borrowing as much as possible, as often as possible
for freedom
As a staunch liberal, I am SO proud of my fellow Americans who are going to see The Interview. Personally, I already took my stand for freedom when I stood in line for two weeks to get my iPhone6.
Pure False Flag Inside Job, CIA guys in Hollywierd at Sony weeks before release, vilify the Norks, distract America... what else is worse than some Commies stopping America from seeing some useless dumbassed idiotic limp comedy, Fear Porn, big Defense Budget, Patriotism for Christmas.
Disgusting.
Fucking idiot New Yorkers. Seeing a worthless movie in the name of "freedom." If they really gave a shit about freedom, they wouldn't even be living in New York, much less electing a communist like Warren Wilhelm Jr to be their mayor.
Really, you can't make this shit up. Even Orwell and Huxley couldn't get details like this right.
People as uninformed and as gullible as Americans have no future. Americans are a dead people that history is about to run over. - Paul Craig Roberts
You take that back. These people are modern day William Wallaces.
Freedumb!!!
I wonder how many of thsse same New Yorkers lined up to protest against the NDAA or NSA spying.
How pathetic.
All is lost, the luciferian fuckweasels have triumphed. The results of the experimental species of homo sapiens is in and we are too fucking stupid to be allowed to continue as stewards of this beautiful life-giving planet.
Uhh, the US is not all of humanity, and I can assure you from my non-US address that Americans are exceptional in two major ways, they are exceptionally stupid and brainwashed into believing this shit is real. From over here it's obvious that everyone knows it's BS.
Exercizing your rights and expressing your beleifs, while buying something? Who ever heard of such a thing?
http://y2u.be/VI6tBwVjyOY
FBI was wrong! It was not North Korean government behind this hack. From CBS news; "It's worth noting that the original demand of the hackers was for money from Sony in exchange for not releasing embarrassing information. There was no mention of the movie "The Interview"
http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/27694-was-fbi-wrong-...
I heard a rumor that it was around 100 terabytes of information. If this is true, how would nk get that much bits through a single isp? doest matter how its re routed, it still goes through that isp pipline. LA traffic through small town usa would be noticable, i dont care how many different directions it came from.
Long live libehhhhhrtee!
Hey, if you like Seth Rogen movies, you know... kind of juvenile slapstick, this was one of this better ones. I watched it this evening on line, paid $6 for 4 people to watch it. We all laughed a lot. It helps if you know about the political situation. It also helps if you have seem some of the pix and videos of NK on line, of the crazy hats, the hairdos, the little notebooks his generals carry around, etc.
Anybody smell an Academy Award nomination for Best Market Manipulation? Now watch other studios play copycat. Only in Merka is your freedom measured by access to entertainment.
P.S. The movie is garbage, and 'Rogen' sounds Chooish.
BTW, anyone search for viewer reviews? This is the first I found...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11313299/The-...
"35 minutes in, wondering if I will ever laugh again,"
They strapped me in a chair and forced me to watch it.
It was hell.
CRITICS HATE "THE INTERVIEW"
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/228085-critics-hate-the-interview
Of course they do. They hated Napoleon Dynamite. sometimes the bad stuff is funny, if you're in the mood to watch it.
Dear PTB,
If any Christmas wish be made, it is that New York City get the bomb nanoseconds BEFORE D.C. does.
Please don't confuse Bollywood with HOLLYWOOD when targeting the third recipient. Hopefully, a thermonuclear strike of sufficient power will be enough to cause the 'great earthquake'. As I have hedged my real-estate bets, I think that my land in the Salton Sea will be worth a lot for those 'Pacific Coast' tours that you and your people desire. Because of the BOJ's funding of SONY, and the obvious 'conflicts of interest', I was hoping that you might consider a REAL investment in the future.
Sincerely,
Lex Luthor
I'm on the east side of the San Andreas...about ten miles away. I think my, newly-made, cliff-side dwelling will have a greatly enhanced value.
Due to your proximity to the 'exclusion zone', you run the risk of health issues associated with the fallout.
HOWEVER...
I just happen to have a friend whose sister-in-law's ex-roommate makes $76.00 an hour on the internet selling lead-lined suits... go to ww.w; killtheinternetZHspammer dot com for more details!
(Some exclusions apply. Not applicable in Fukushima Province. Paid employees of World Bank and it's subsidiaries are not eligible for offer. All rights reserved, SONY International Pictures, LLC. The State Of Californicatia and it's current government are not responsible for your actions/comments. Do NOT pass 'GO', and do NOT collect two hundred dollars. 'San Andreas' and any mention of such are simply fictional places that everyone knows are made up, and any mention of such are protected under copyright. Copyright '$76 an hour dot com'.)
Whew, good thing I live in Commiefornia.
None of that small print shit applies.
Gruber was right; Merikans are stupid.
I take back all the bad things I said about Gruber. He's probably the most candid guy related to this adminitration.
They should hand out copies of the American Bill of Rights to all the motivated viewers, in two versions:
The Original
and the the redacted version courtesy of Clinton-Bush-Obama
imo clinton was a piker compared to the other two. not even in the class of george h w bush or lyndon johnson, not to mention fdr or ww (for you historianz).
Although people have all info only a fingertip away on the net, they prefer to believe what they are pumping 24/7 into their minds. You are correct.
CEO Sony Entertainment: Michael Lynton, Jew.
How is his religion relevant?
The old trick.
"It's only a religion."
"Jews are a people".
Use whatever is useful for the moment...
Look, I am sick and tire of this anti-jewishness nonsense. Wake up!!! It's just like here, there is the people, and there are the elites who own everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNIcAcrvi2M
it is probably a losing battle but your point is worth making. the problem now is zionism, done by both jews and non jews, not the jewish religion per se. however like the clannishness of any group that can find their will to power helped by their clan (kkk, jews, skull and bones, whatever alumni, crips or bloods, etc. . . . .) there are examples of jews using jewishness to get advantage (madoff famously traded on this to screw his own people, the unforgiveable sin).
however, that said, today the overwhelming danger is that of zionism. read http://smile.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_12?url=search-alias%3Dstripbo... for more details.
A religion that preaches that stealing was not stealing, when things or money was "taken" from non-Jews?
A religion that celebrates the killing of a people?
A religion that allows false oaths when Jews profit from it?
A religion that promotes usury against gentiles?
A religion that forgives all sins IN ADVANCE for the coming year?
No honest and upright person can defend such a satanic cult!
The people that are named after Judah from the Bible. Think about what you are saying. They are descendants of the most dubious traitor to humanity of all time, Judah.
Nid, I think you have confused Judas. He is the '30 pieces of silver sellout", if that is who you meant. Judah lived back when wealth was accumulated in cattle, land, and gold with no government intervention.
If Jews who used Rootkit to infect malware on millions of systems as "protection" and they still got themselves hacked, Israel doesn't stand a chance in the Middle East if they're all that dumb.
Hate crime Jew haters is pointless, you don't need it if a group of losers already hate themselves. (why else would you need nepotism to get along in the world if you can do anything right?)
Sony outsourced it's IT department. To India. I temped for them. Their VP damage control person took home $600,000/YEAR when Los Angeles was struggling with a nasty 22% U-6 unemployment rate (when I had temped there) and what did the IT guys make? IT was hard to make that number out through the very thick Indian accent on a phone call filled with echos and static while your temp Sr. Manager stumbles in still drunk from the night before and nobody can figure out why it takes over a week to get their skeletal system up and running so employees can at least do their own jobs.
This is why I think malicious, sinister and violent hate groups are so stupid. You have to do drugs to be stupid enough to commit to any hate group. You're wasting your time stooping to the level of a few (NOT ALL, just some) people who have their heads shoved up their asses. Ignore them- you have to allow natural selection to run it's course.
The guys selling the drugs are selling the hate. Nothing like a guaranteed market.
Welcome to the ghetto...
The more fractal....the better.
you can watch the movie free online - I just did.
It's a bad movie.
I sense an agenda behind it.
But why pay for a bad movie if they give it to you for free.
Why do they want us to watch it so much? Had to fast forward through certain parts, too long, boring, and stupid...
Saw it also. Not that funny and it had someone's agenda written into it. Franco did not even seem like he tried.
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None of them did. That would be unpatridiotic.
You see, these are 'americans', boldly taking a stand for the greatest 'american' freedom of all: the freedom to obey authority.
Yeah, there were. They just made sure no one else saw it.
I wonder how many of thsse same New Yorkers lined up to protest against the NDAA or NSA spying.
How pathetic.
not that much, very understandable, look :
A) you fight
B) you flee
if you fight :
A) probability to win
b) or to loose.
from the moment you have to make choices in your personals fights and life path, you do not fight to risk nsa black copter above your house but you can proudly say " IIIIII will go to the cinema "
in france we have a word for this : " PLEUTRE " ( aproximatly coward, but very targeting in sense " without bravery and absolutly no dignity AT ALL "
it is more sad when you hit a big scale, like those #freeourgirls twitter bs, hidden behind code on a software itself behind a network itself behind a remote unit called cellphone...
isis bla bla, daesh blabla, but, on the warfare, who, will really stand, drop the phone, take the gun, and make the job....hm? those blacks girls in nigeria nobody really give a fuck coz this country is the most crazy of all africa
be fair, anyone living in appartment inside big cities has given their lives to the system just to have the facility to get everything the world can sell, i not say offer, i say SELL.
cities, NY like any other one, will be 1st places to be hell in SHTF situation. let'em as what they are, human traps.
remember NY blackout , what ppl regroup for ? charging cellphones... i'm no more that scared about darwinism in the next decade, i strongly believe nature will make the right choose about what population to delete.
Absolutely. Even very minor US disasters are completely crippling - see what happens after hurricanes and winter storms.
Hell, when the Casey Anthony verdict was announced(FL mother who killed her toddler), the internet actually broke for most of the state.
It will be fast and relentless when it happens. There will be no communications systems left. Radio and telephone landlines have been centralized and digitized for some time. No more analog TV signals either.
If they really gave a shit about freedom, they wouldn't bother voting, period.
FIFY
Dupe. Deleted.
Doug Stanhope - Fuck the yankees
"Before you advertise how tough you are, you may wanna go to the bathroom and douche some of Bloombergs cocksmell out of your assholes. Because it seems to me that you are little bitches to city hall"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvWGZpu_TXw
Triple taxes and police brutality over skipping ciggie taxes IS freedom!
Seth Rogen hung out with Babs (who I think is a tweaker now, her former assistant was arrested with that nasty stuff) and the CEO of Sony is a Jewish man. And NYC is full of Jewish people. I wonder IF they actually paid the full ticket price to see the movie.
> Personally, I already took my stand for freedom when I stood in line for two weeks to get my iPhone6.
I think it took me about 7 minutes to get the Wife's Samsung Note 4. Mind you, "it's NOT an Apple" so by definition, "must" be an inferior device . . . . . . . . :-))
Sorry Stackers, please to be corrected. You know darn well your mama never said that because you also know that was a term coined by “The Heart” on ZH earlier in the year before being 86ed by ZH for speaking truth to power about zionist pigs, and their agent provocateurs here.
And, speaking to “can't fix stupid,” also pleaze to beg your difference. With the proper edumacation, stupid can be fixed. The whole reason this shitshow is so farked up is due to the total lack of proper instruction and edumacation from the very beginning of birth first day when you learned fear. Now understand how it has been nurtured and propagated by those who call you all, slaves. Understand how almost every single human RE-action comes from that place of fear. Ask, if it is not Love, what is it?
Them babylonian money-god freaks have in their firm grasp 99.999999999% of most men's ball saks, and dresses them in pretty pink lace panties to prove it.
Thanks for playing through.
Merry belated Christmas to you and yours, sir.
Goes 5X5 to all the rest of the good hearted ZH CREW also.
Why is anyone surprised? New Yorkers are some of the biggest idiots on the planet. I see them everyday here in Florida. They barely have enough sense to stay out of traffic. These are the same people who Elected Hillary for a Senator. Says all you need to know.
More Hollyweird garbage.
Dumbass sheep.
I see what you did there. Others did as well. What was it? A slip of a finger on the keyboard? Nudge nudge, wink wink. Nice one divided States, keep up the good work.
Seth Rogen is a guy who can apparently barely get a movie made in Hollywood unless its green-lit by one of his far-better-talented-and-connected actor friends, such as James Franco, and even then the thing looks like a total piece of shit that nobody's going to actually watch. Yet everybody from the White House to the Kremlin is giving it free plugs. What horrorifying act of terrorism is Sony threatening world governments with unless they advertise their crappy movie? "We'll make another Spiderman movie. We swear, we'll do it!" ?
Hollywood is 24/7 tribal rule (just like Wall St., DC, Langley, & Ft. Meade). In Hollywood, you play their game & suck up to the agenda, or you're Mel Gibson.
They hate us for our movies
ACTUALLY...
Most of the Hollywood 'stars' came from bus stations in Chatsworth (and other parts of the Valley). They hate us because we don't show ENOUGH SKIN in our movies, now.
you play their game & suck up to the agenda, or you're Mel Gibson.
Or maybe Bill Cosby
It's gone from a piling pile of merde that was a guaranteed bomb to a 'patriotic must-see'?!?!?
The 'North Koreans' really did Sony a favor then, didn't they............. the truly cynical would wonder if someone also took this opportunity to put pressure on SONY's CEO..... who else really wanted that job?
I saw the movie online (for free). A few thoughts:
1. It's no masterpiece, but I've seen a lot worse. "Hot Tub Time Machine" comes to mind and they're doing a sequel to that POS. Just fuck.
2. Franco's character is downright annoying and stupid. Rogan's character comes off better, but not by much. Rogan has made quite a few movies and I'm sure he be bankable for at least 5 more years.
3. The show was stolen by the guy who play's Kim Jong Un -- gave a much better performance than anyone else. That Korean military chick (Rogan's luv interest) was pretty hot too.
4. Sony is going to lose a ton on this.
5. Why bring Jews into it exactly? Is everything a fucking Zionist plot (especially gven point #4)? Grow up.
Yeah, and here is another movie the Jooz lost out on.....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwY34ZIe-I4
Oh come on. Hot Tub Time Machine was a fun movie.
"Hot Tub Time Machine" was pretty bad, IMHO. Was one of the few times I felt like demanding my $$ back. I can put up with a lot of juevenile shit and profanity, but at least make it funny. HTTM wasn't even funny. Biggest surprise was that John Cusack was in it. He really must have needed the $$ or neglected to read the script.
maybe OT but the word freedom was in the title:
"She said she called the Internal Revenue Service and was told the agency had concluded she owed $30,000 in taxes from a 2008 house transaction, which was long ago accounted for on her federal returns. She said she implored the agency to check her tax records and eventually was told the levy was generated in error and her accounts would be freed up.
Although IRS officials removed the levy, they first withdrew all the funds from her account. They said that, too, was in error and the funds would be returned to her. The funds have not been replaced, Ms. O’Donnell said.
Ms. O’Donnell, who writes a column for the online Washington Times Communities, says her only current matter pending with the IRS is that she filed for an extension to pay her 2013 taxes but that the levy had nothing to do with that filing."
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/25/christine-odonnell-tea-party-figure-says-irs-mista/#ixzz3N0erSGDDFollow us: @washtimes on Twitter christine is a so called conservative tea party type, so much for political freedom DC targets anyone who would make DC smaller.
"Why bring Jews into it exactly? Is everything a fucking Zionist plot"
To answer your question in a straightforward way. No, certainly everything is not a Zionist plot. But its rarely discussed (except maybe on ZH), that a 2% demographic population has their hands on the levers & controls of northwards of 80% of Wall St., Hollywood, and various intelligence & MIC apparatus.
To keep the focus on this on Hollywood, let's talk about Steven Spielberg (who is arguably one of the top dogs in modern day Hollywood). There is a WIKI link on Spielbergs name there if you care to read it.
What stands out about Spielberg (to me anyway) is his list of films:
Jaws
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Munich
Saving Private Ryan
Schindler's List
Detect any themes there? Naturally, the thing that jumps out is the focus on crystallizing the 'Bad Nazi' image (where the heroes are all fighting the Nazis). 'Raiders' did it in a more subtle way, but the message was the same (Bad Hitler is gonna get his hands on the Ark. Hero Indiana Jones, who is played by Harrison Ford, who is jewish, is gonna save the day).
So what's up with Jaws (you may ask)? Well ~ Nothing is really wrong, but underneath it all, Roy Schieder (as well as Jeff Goldblum, in Jurassic Park) are both jewish & naturally cast as the protagonists.
Like I said, I suppose nothing is really WRONG with all of the above. But, when you start asking questions about 'Zionist plots'. If you want an honest answer to the question, if you don't bother to consider some mind numbing statistical abberations, you're being disingenuous.
As for your 'point #4'
4. Sony is going to lose a ton on this.
Not likely. There's a very good chance that a chunk of funding for this propaganda flick came from Langley (which only means that they had to dip into the opium & gun running stash a little).
Lets play shoots and ladders, it's more fun than make believe.
Are you saying Hitler and the Nazis weren't bad? I can't think of a single movie that cast Hitler or the Nazis as good. Movies like "Valkyrie" (with Tom Cruise) make the point that no all Germans in WWII were Nazis. Actually, there were quite a few movies like that (starting in the early 1960s), that drew a distinction between Germans and Nazis. "Night of the Generals" comes to mind.
The Nazis were bad, but Hollywood has gone overboard because 1) the Nazis were too good a villian and 2) there is a reluctance to make anyone else the Bad Guy. Even commies and Arab terrorists are off the table now. Serbs are still okay, but its hard to portray them as Global villians. Evil, Capitalist Bond villians are still okay.
Your complaint seems to be that these actors are Jewish (Ford is only half Jewish BTW, and I doubt he considers himself Jewish), even though there is no hint that the characters they play are Jewish. Indiana Jones is certainly not a Jew. In "Jurrassic Park", Sam Neil is the main protagonist, not Jeff Goldblum. Likewise, in "Saving Private Ryan", Tom Hanks is the star. There is one Jewish member of his squad, but he kind of fucks up. But, I guess when you're an anti-semite, you see evidence of a conspiracy everywhere. Or maybe you think that Jewish actors/actresses should not be allowed to be protagonists without wearing a yellow star of David on their costumes?
"Are you saying Hitler and the Nazis weren't bad?"
Did I say that? No. I didn't. Instead, I made the point that Spielberg, arguably, seems to ardently feature that theme (which, from a popular culture POV, ought to be something for a reasonable person to consider when addressing your aforementioned curiosity as to whether or not there exists 'Zionist Conspiracy' overreach, or is it all just a figment of peoples imaginations).
As far as Hitler himself or the Nazi's are concerned (which wasn't my interest in addressing, except to use those as examples in speaking about 'agendas'). My only reply is to say that I wasn't alive when that was happening, so I have absolutely no idea on how to view Hitler (except by way of the 'storytelling' that I've been exposed to all my life). Whether all that 'storytelling' is the the absolute truth or not, I cannot say.
Instead, what I DO know is that many of the things that I was taught (some might say 'indoctrinated') when I was young, have proven, in time, to be false. Such examples are things like Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, Kennedy Assasination. These false narratives continue apace when you consider 9/11, Sandy Hook, Boston Marathon, and even this "The Interview" bullshit.
If Hitler & the Nazi's were so bad, then why was Hitlers war machine funded by New York, banks? What happened with the Lusitania despite numerous 'warnings' by the Germans to avoid sailing on that vessel? What was Churchill's role? Behind all these things, WHO(M) was profiting? Why does the public only talk about the Holocaust with never a mention about the Holodomor? Why, after the war was over, were Nazi scientists welcomed with open arms into the United States? Who stole nuclear technology?
All I know is that I don't have the answers to any of those questions. (but I'm certainly don't plan on ever turning to Hollywood, Wall St., or Washington DC to get any straight answers).
As far as your 'non sequitur' comment:
"But, I guess when you're an anti-semite, you see evidence of a conspiracy everywhere."
is concerned.
LOL ~ I think in reality it's the other way around. Namely ~ If you dare question any of the 24/7 horseshit that you're spoonfed, then you're an anti-semite, or rayciss, or WTF ever.
I've never had the luxury of using the 'race card' as mortar to fill in the gaping holes in my theories.
On this moronic comment:
"Or maybe you think that Jewish actors/actresses should not be allowed to be protagonists without wearing a yellow star of David on their costumes?"
Did I suggest that? Of course not. Instead ~ my QUESTION is, out of a demographic pool of 2%, why are there such a mathematically disproportionate many jewish actors and actresses that get leading roles in movies produced & directed by jews? Are their acting skills that good? Instead, the choice always appears to come down to a short list of either them, or the next 'MK Ultra' on the list.
Nothing to see here, move along, right?
My only reply is to say that I wasn't alive when that was happening, so I have absolutely no idea on how to view Hitler .
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Really? That has to be the biggest cop-out I've ever seen on ZH. Seriously, you should be fucking ashamed of yourself. WWII is, perhaps, the most extensively documented war in history. That, plus many (many) non-fiction books have been written on Hitler and the Nazis, ranging from the critical to supportive. And then there are the movies. But you have no idea how to view Hitler? Do you not read? You seem to have no trouble forming opinions on things for which no evidence exists (like CIA funding of "The Interview"), but you can't make up your mind about the most written about person of the 20th Century?
By the standard you set up, you have no idea how to view anybody who died before you were born--including Jesus.
I think you know Exactly how you view Hitler--you just don't have the balls to say it.
"WWII is perhaps, the most extensively documented war in history."
Documented? OK. If you want to play the 'documented' game, one would be remiss to fail to discuss, arguably the most 'documented' story of all time (which would be the life & death of Jesus).
Yet in the end, what is The New Testament? First editions written in Greek, translated from Aramaic, extensively 'edited' at the Council of Nicea, then thoroughly edited by King James & other kings to include & omit things that didn't support their own power & ruling agendas. IOW ~ The New Testament is constantly worked & reworked to be whatever somebody in power (& wants to hold onto that power), wants it to be. I'm pretty sure the various storytelling about WW2 is no different.
So from that POV, I'll stick to my belief that the real story of WW2 is something much different from what you're bombarded with.
"I think you know Exactly how you view Hitler--you just don't have the balls to say it."
Up until now you've never pushed me on how I view Hitler. I have no trouble saying what I think.
- I think Hitler was probably a 'puppet' just like many others (Napoleon, Wilson, Stalin, FDR, Churchill, Clinton, W, Obama).
- I think there's evidence to suggest that the Holocaust numbers are exaggerated
- There is definitely evidence to suggest that there were events like the Holodomor that hardly ever get mentioned, & by 'scale', were arguable worse, which begs the question of WHY one should get more attention & the other almost none at all. (Note: this is not unlike looking at the homocide rates in Chicago vs. the mouthbreathing homicides that occur elsewhere, albeit on a smaller scale). What's important here is to consider the dynamic & the motive, NOT the aggregate numbers.
- For that matter, why isn't Truman considered evil for nuking 10's of thousands of Japanese civilians?
Before you become aghast at an attempt to compare Hitler to some of the aforementioned nominees, you'd need to consider the eventual pain & suffering that was caused to humanity:
Napoleon: arguably the 'prototype' for the eventual Rothschild controlled 'Hegelian Dialectic' power grab via conflict which still exists today
Wilson: Signed the Federal Reserve act (which brought the Hegelian Dialectic to America and began the MIC, debt slavery paradigm)
FDR/Churchill: Pawns (along with Hitler). Naturally ~ the figureheads for the pre-chosen winning sides, but complicit nonetheless
Stalin: same as above, actually responsible for far more deaths than Hitler
Clinton/W/Obama: Actually just puppets (like Hitler, Stalin, FDR, & Churchill). I nominate them because they represent 'kinetic evil' (aka, the potential to do evil if TPTB happen to decide to pull the string on their watch). IOW ~ the 'evil' has always existed ABOVE the likes of all of these nominees. Obama is a clueless dolt, but if his puppeteers decide that they want to do something radical, & it happens to be while he's still in office, he has the kinetic potential to go down as another Hitler).
None of what I just stated exonorates Hitler or any of the people I mentioned. But my 'contempt' in such matters tends to be focused on the shadow figures (which makes Hitler kind of a 'nothingburger' for me).
Thanks for the lengthy response. Unfortunately, I also think its a cop-out to claim all those figures are "puppets". It's truthful to say that every great historical figure gets to where they are being (somewhat) beholden to someone else. That is inevitable, thus when you call someone a "puppet" its impossible to prove or disprove. As is the existence of "shadow figures" who go around pulling the strings. I am not sure how Stalin and Hitler were puppets too as they pretty much had as close to absolute power as its' possible to get. When you get right down to it, we are all buffetted by shadow forces beyond our control -- some of us adapt, others of us go on ZH and cry about our victimhood.
As far as the "debt slave" mantra that constantly gets thrown around ZH....please. My grandfather had no loans, but a pretty shitty life. He worked his ass off and lived in a NYC tenement until he died. At one time, I was the prototypical debt slave with a mortgage, college loans, car loans, credit card debt, even business loans. Eventually, I paid it all off (including my mortgage) and now pay for everything in cash. But if it wasn't for those loans, I would not be where I am today. Which is why people take out loans in the first place--to get what they want. Sometimes it an investment, other times it's just stupid stuff. But this is America, and we have the freedom to make that call. No one puts a gun to anyone's head to take out loans.
The things I do resent are ZIRP, NIRP and other liberal policies that are ruining this Country. Including blaming the Jews for everything that goes wrong.
"I am not sure who Stalin and Hitler were puppets to"
I suppose we'll agree to disagree as to whether or not my POV is a 'cop out'. I don't believe it is and if somebody pushes me to do so, I'll take time to present my case. I have done this from time to time. The result usually has been that I am able to draw from more references than the person I'm arguing with. That doesn't make my POV right, but I have usually done more homework than the average Joe.
If you're interested, I can offer up a fairly elaborate timeline of events [that covers more than 2 millenium], that loosely interprets the way the world happens to find itself in the predicament it's in now.
1. First ~ you have to believe in the dynamic of a POWER structure. This has been an essential element of all 'dynastical' phenomenon (whether it be kings & queens, warlords, religious heirarchies, or whatever). Everything, from military, to government, requires this structure if it wants to exist as a 'society'. The 'exceptions' to this would be individuals or small groups of individuals who can exist in semi-autonomy, but at a critical mass, autonomy necessarily cedes itself to structure with the 'HOPE' that it'll be done in an equitable fashion (which ultimately never ends up happening).
2. One must consider the role of MONEY in the above scenario. In autonomy, money is not needed. Past the critical mass, money becomes a necessity & becomes naturally intertwined with POWER.
3. If you want to trace the POWER/MONEY dynamic back 2,000 years, you find yourself in the Julio-Claudian dynasty (which was the time of Jesus Christ). Naturally, there were other cultural dynasties in different parts of the world at that time, but it's not an exaggeration to say that WESTERN CULTURE dominated the happenings of the 2,000 years after the death of Jesus. Furthermore ~ even if you wanted to make an argument to include EASTERN CULTURES, within themselves they followed the same structural dynamics.
4. One should also note that the Julio-Claudian dynasty sprang forth from what was previously a 'Republic' (which is a dynamic that should not go unobserved ~ as if to say that, eventually, ALL cultures devolve themselves into these 'absolute power' or 'despotic' affairs).
5. After the eventual fall of a DESPOTIC structure (which lasted several centuries in the case of the Romans), comes a POWER VACUUM. The metaphor I like to use to paint a picture of this is the scene from 'Terminator 2' where the new model Terminator gets frozen by liquid oxygen & smashed into a million pieces. But this happens in the warehouse of a blast furnace, whereby the smashed pieces liquefy and eventually join back together and re-form the original entity. Without getting into detail, loosely, what eventually RE-FORMED after the fall of the ROMAN EMPIRE was the HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE (which one might call the HABSBURG DYNASTY) which existed for over 500 years.
6. During that stretch of time, the soverign boundaries of Europe were loosely configured (with kings & queens at the helm of each, yet all or most were basically Habsburgs).
7. Towards the end of this (after the spoils of the known territory were essentially divvy-ed up), world conquest & exploration became the theme. This was both costly & potentially lucrative. The problem, AS ALWAYS, was funding. At some point shyster bankers made their way into the financial workings of the royal courts (Mayer Amschel Rothschild is the most famous of these, having wiggled 'lineage' interests into the Bank of England, France, Netherlands, Germany & Austria).
8. The 'takeaway' (on #7), is that, for the first time. 'Banking' (& later, banking 'schemes') became the method to supplant the necessity to hold gold & wealth in order to gain power.
9. #8 naturally began the 'debt cycle' paradigm. After that (which exists to this day), the way to MONEY & POWER is to gain control of the money supply & force people & nations into debt (which is a 'societal' dynamic that occurs only when debt collection becomes enforceable either by law, or when law is abrogated or unattended, by police, military, otherwise, Praetorian style force).
10. So when I talk about 'shadow figures', naturally I speak about the inner circles of elites that exist ABOVE the mezzanine of soverign rulers (whether they be kings & queens, or supposedly democratically elected Presidents or Prime Ministers). This dynamic has existed since Rothschild made the scene.
11. The goal of the 'shadow figures' is simply to consolidate their own power (which is obtained via economic strangleholds on critical choke nodes). To otherwise control the things that humanity needs to survive, as well as come up with schemes to foster 'desire' (in human populations), which become other outstanding economic engines from which to profit. Food & energy are a given. Entertainment, leisure, & comfort are a bonus.
So this is the point where we PART WAYS with our viewpoints. Basically ~ I'm saying that since Rothschild came on the scene, most of what you see on the surface (whether it's political figures, media moguls, propaganda initiatives), Rothschild & the subsequent pyramid of disciples, have a hand in. IT ISNT' PERFECT. It isn't absolute control. But there's little doubt in my mind that they'd like to have full control. Sometimes it's even difficult to determine who is 'IN' & who is 'OUT'. (Usually you can determine that 'after the fact' by reading obituary reports).
Anyway ~ it's laughable to me to think that Hitler was working completely on his own when you consider all the contacts & associations he had prior to his Chancellorship. It's further laughable to me when I consider the makeup of the 'shadow figures' who still exist today, 70 years after Hitler. More specifically, we're still talking about roughly the same conclave of shadow figures. Moreover ~ when you consider the 'objectives' that they are pursuing in the present day, & the means that they control (both politically, & via propaganda), it's not difficult to imagine who, at any given time, is a candidate to become the greatest villian of all time.
Hell ~ just a decade ago, Iraquis were killing babies in incubators right? RIGHT? While Saudi nationals were flying jets into buildings while apparently tossing pristine passports out the plane window split seconds before it crashed into a fireball into the Silverstein '7 billion insurance policy' towers that were in need of a billion dollar project to remove asbestos. Now ~ Rolex wearing ISIS soldiers (in brand new boots & uniforms) are cutting peoples heads off.
Whatever ~ If all that seems perfectly normal to you than knock yourself out. Me? I guess I'm just a skeptic (which naturally makes me anti-semitic)
ZIRP, NIRP and the "other liberal policies that are ruining this Country" are, beyond any reasonable doubt, inventions of and for the benefit of a Zionist Joo oligarchy. They are also the real anti-Semites.
"If my sons did not want war, there would be none." -- Gutle Schnapper Rothschild (1753–1849)
Gutle was the matriarch of the Rothschild family dynasty.
"Balfour: We are probably fools not to find a reason for declaring war on Germany before she builds too many ships and takes away our trade.
White: If you wish to compete with German trade, work harder.
Balfour: That would mean lowering our standard of living. Perhaps it would be simpler for us to have a war... Is it a question of right or wrong? Maybe it is just a question of keeping our supremacy." -- Henry White 1907
Looks like another win for JWO....
i saw this movie, and it's a shame they have to go with potty humour from the get-go. it's not even a fallback, but rather a staple. the script is uncouth overall. where can we get a comedian that doesn't rely on such 'low vibration' material?
to be fair, there is some great cinematography (green screen?). in any case the entire production -- with the 'hacking incident' and everything -- is an incredible pr/propaganda stunt.
i'd give this movie top ranks for some of the scenery, and disappointing ranks for its juvenile script. one interesting sidelight was the use of 'north korean style potemkin village' -- a fake grocery store and fat kid standing outside.
Given that Sony's Playstation Network gaming service has been down for the entire day, it's not surprising people have decided to put their controllers down and get out of the house.
Starting to wonder if the Lizard Squad group, which claimed credit for bringing it down earlier this month and then warned they'd attack again today, was the actual groiup behind the Sony Picture's hack and not "North Korea."
I'm wondering if the Sony hack was an inside job as part of an advertising blitz. "The movie North Korea doesn't want you to see." The movie has been getting bad reviews by those pirating the movie.
just all those people firing up their new playstations and registering, downloading latest updates ....
What do you mean by Jew Yorkers?
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Yiddish bankers-in-LAW (serving up 'Greater Manhattan' Style Clam Chowder since 1913)
Buy your tickets now for The Blair Witch project II;
"The Eccles Building"
Starring mr. Yellen.
Sony CEO and Barc Obola be buds....
Sony knew they could get away with the scam - 'cause the Hollywood sycophant Kenyan in the WH would use the FBI to run intereference for Sony execs.
That depends on how much those people in the queue were paid to be there.
"Waterworld 2" ~ LOL
I think I'll hang around to see the live stage show for that one.
Hopefully, Costner's hair plugs will be able to endure!
LOL, Waterworld 2 ... TRY TO STOP IT YOU GREASY NOR KOMS!!!!
Don't forget your towl
My friend asked me if I wanted to watch that movie yesterday. I told him, among other talkings of smack about this "publicity stunt," that "if you watch that movie, the propaganda terrorists win."
Something about this movie and the build up to it reeks of mind control programming.
Hah ha ha ha
We should all go caroling, singing about that and see the looks people'd give us.
Eddie Bernays sits upon the right hand of Goebbels, deigned upon from Tavistock upon high, spreading the seasonal word of the NWO as writ for man upon the Georgia Guidestones, enshrined in Agenda 21 and brought to all men in the spirit of Statist Holidays at Campfema.
...with fluoridity and chemtrails for all.
Sony also made Zero Dark Thirty. The programming is going into overdrive. By the time B. Hussein Zero leaves office, these bullshit movies may be mandatory.
What's sad is that every successful marketing campaign sets precedent and gets emulated. Now they'll be spitting out mass produced controversy like horror flick sequels.
Hope that doesn't ruin my chances at getting a third pair of teeth.
The quotation is from a perfect moron. Murica'--the country where sub-normal is good enough.
Hollywood, the least Christian town in America. Other than Dearborn, maybe.
We are truly doomed. Too stupid to survive...
i think so too - americans to stupid...
Not just americans, I'm afraid.
'Idiocracy' was a documentary.
We Grubered some folks.
+1
Too tired to dig a hole, crawl in it and die.
Doomed indeed...
Always take a short handled shovel with you in your pick-up when you're on a road trip. In case you die, you can bury yourself.
Mr. Hulk, I don't know what is worse than doomed, but we're most certainly that/there.
The NK's just hacked my asshole because they didn't want me showing it to the public. I'm selling tickets to view my asshole. C'mon dumbERICA, support my freedum to show my asshole and your freedum to view it. At $5 a crack (pun intended) my asshole is far cheaper than some shitty movie, and I supply the poopcorn.
In the movie Idiocracy everyone paid money to go see a movie called ASS.
You sir, are ahead of your time, either that or we're living smack dab in the middle of the movie's premise.
To be fair, that "ASS" movie had some farts in it. He offered only the view.
Everytime I hear the word Idiodracy, being the primary form of entertainment was mindless ass viewing, I think of Kim Kardashian. She just looks a little bit better than the ones in the movie. Everything else, same...
It's all "peanuts and korn" these days Angus.
Try king of pain until that day.
Spoiler - they all die in the end.
If only real life could be like the movies.
"We are taking a stand for freedumb" LMAO.
For less than the price of admission and shitty popcorn, all those folks could buy an ounce of silver.
That WOULD be a stand for freedom!
We would all have hung ourselves by the time we had convinced 5% of them to even realize what silver is.
Seems good pr campaign by Sony, they should raise their workers salary
Makes you wonder if the homosexual douche bags standing out front weren't regular Sony employees.
Prolly just to be the first account executive to say that he saw it.
I saw it when it was called Sandy Hook, and Boston Bombing, and 9/11, and OKC Bombing, and USS Liberty, and Gulf of Tonkin, and ISIS, and Bin Laden...
The banksters need to repay us.
Different name, same story, but we don't care, cuz we want more 'o dat shit.
Merry Christmas skater dude and the rest of ZH'ers including the trolls.
Merry Christmas Freddie - it's been a gnarly year from all angles. Always glad to see you around and read your posts.
We will, without choice, find out what batshit insane on-screen and real-life movies the "producers" make next year. "The Reset" will not be one of them.
Oh, no problem. The next PsyOp propaganda Langley MIC produced film already being pimped on the networks is "American Sniper."
Sure to bring in loads of preprogrammed sheepeople into the programming theraters.
Brother in law just watched "Lone Survivor" ( I cought bits). Its all true he says. He was telling me about American Sniper...
It was such a load of propaganda bullshit I could barely contain my commentary, which would have been most unwelcome as that side of the family is fully entrenched in the matrix, despite years of handing them the red pill...
Proves my point. Decades of Indocrtination, PsyOp, Propaganda, False Narrative Scripts & MK Ultra Mind Control per se.
Because another NFL (National Fag League) member has contacted Obama for dating purposes.
I feel unclean even reading about this tawdry mess.
All I really want is to see all the other gossip the hackers have that they have not released yet.
I suppose that does make me a hypocrite.
Its Christmas. Be patient. Only a hebrew slave works on December, 25th
More than 6 million New Yorkers were violated by stop-and-frisk in defiance of the US constitution by fascist Bloomberg and no New Yorker took a stand for freedom. Taking a stand for freedom against an impoverished country 10,000 miles away and which costs nothing is, of course, a brave and courageous thing to do.
The closest one gets to freedom in New York is when you sing "land of the free" in the national anthem. Or if you are a deluded New Yorker off to strike a blow for freedom by seeing "The Interview."
Its your "patriotic duty" to give Sony your money. More like idiotic duty.
http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/25/media/the-interview-box-office/index.htm...
Well, stupid is what stupid does. Always was, always will be... even in NY.
Hmmmm, peope will stand in line to see an inane movie "in the name of freedom" but when central banks print trillions of fake dollars and destroy their wealth that's not a problem. What a twisted world.
Merry Christmas and kalos kristoyenna to my Cypriot friends :)
In their defense, where would NYC be w/o FED counterfeiting? Broke and at least half empty.
Looks like Kevin Costner wishes he thought of this 20 years ago.
What else do Some in Jew York have to do on Christmas Day ??
The banks and Wall Street are closed, so stealing is out of the question...
Won't be told what we can and can not see yet that is exactly what the government does with various things. I also won't even get into the "stand for freedom" comment and how this person must have just woken up from being frozen for the last few decades.
These people are idiots. Sad they are wasting up resources that could be better used for people who aren't dumb although those that qualify are a very small minority.
The whole fake hack and blame it on north korea PR bullshit worked wonders since I saw some idiots thinking nroth korea hacked the playstation network today since Sony is having problems.
I really don't know how anyone can actually have faith and hopium that the world is going to get better when they see this type of idiocy.
Massive contributors to global warming, according to the algor ithm.
Shlomo from SONY pictures and all his friend(s) from the "tribe" at CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC and FOX thank you for being the livestock that you are!... The propoganda mind control worked again!
Congratulations! You really are #1 and in a class by yourself!!!
If enough of you turned out to watch this you'll be like butter at the bottom of the baking dish come the next official event!
cut and paste from the post a page back.
It was actually more than that. Back in the film days a 1000 screen opening was big, and 2000 screens was unheard of. My hime town in Michigan didn't get Star Wars until 6 weeks after it opened in the cities, and we got a scratched up print that looked like crap. With digital distribution you can do 10,000 screens on opening day, and a week later when the seats are empty, switch to something else.
That's why the opening weekends are so big. Hype up the movie, get as many people to see it on opening weekend as you can. 10x as many screens means 10x as many suckers.
As for The Interview, it is interesting that these small independent chains pedominantly use the SONY digital cinema projector, a projector so expensive it has to be given to theaters in exchange for a cut of every ticket. Empty theatres with SONY projectors that could be showing a SONY film? Unthinkable!
duo
thanks for the information and the history lesson on how Langley with the help of Hollywood manipulates the masses.
Like I've said here many times before in the past -We've got what is coming our way!
Marketing 3.0 just got extreme. Sony is going to be busy on the donation side this year.
Chris Rock said it perfectly.
Damn this nation of fat slobs just beggings to prostrate themselves on a fecal-contaminated theater seat to "consume" a horrible movie beacuse "that's freedom"!
It was a pretty funny movie, its easy to call the movie garbage when you haven't watched it, is it the usual mindless poop joke comedy Americans are used to? yes, was it still funny? yea it was, are you goig to miss anything by not watching it? not really, just 1 ~ 5 laughable scenes, thats about it.
But it wasn't that bad of a movie I give it 8/10 for the most part because it ended up being what I expected it to be....just a stupid movie to watch while digesting dinner.
For the most part the majority of people watching this movie will endup watching it probably on some pirate movie site tho, I doubt Sony's marketing scheme about getting hacked because of its movie. . . is going to push out the sales they thought they would get.
Jeez. Everyone of us has a limited time on earth. Only so many heart beats. Why anyone would waste two seconds watching this shit is beyond me, Oh by the way - James Franco is tribe too. One of the reasons why he is so annoying. I don' watch Hollywood's shit.
Some people have free time.
If you dont
eat the food
Watch the movies
Gamble at the casinos
What else are you going to do when its 30 degrees outside?
If we lived in the jungle im sure I would be too busy gathering fire wood for the winter to watch a poop comedy streaming online.
I could think of at least 5000 other things to do when it's 30 degrees outside. At least half of them involve interacting with other people.
Having time doesn't mean that wasting it on garbage posing as entertainment is a worthwhile or even rational pursuit. Unless degrading yourself and mentality is something you want out of you short amount of time, which in case suicide is a valid option so you aren't wasting resources that are better suited for someone that will actually appreciate them.