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60 Prominent Germans Appeal Against Another War In Europe: "It Is Not About Putin. What Is At Stake Is Europe"
Two weeks ago, as the S&P was preparing to surge on the latest round of all time high market-goosing algo trickery by the FOMC, 60 prominent German personalities from the realms of politics, economics, culture and the media were less concerned with blinking red and green stock quotes and were focused on something far more serious to the future of the world: the threat of war with Russia.
In a letter published by Germany's Die Zeit, numerous famous and respected Germans including a former president and former prime minister write "Wieder Krieg in Europa? Nicht in unserem Namen!", or, roughly translated, "War in Europe Again? Not in Our Names!"
The open letter to the German government, parliament, and media, excerpted here, was signed by more than 60 prominent German personalities and published in the weekly Die Zeit on Dec. 5. The initiators were Horst Teltschik (CDU), advisor to then-Chancellor Helmut Kohl at the time German of reunification; Walther Stützle (SPD), former Secretary of State for the Ministry of Defense; and Antje Vollmer (Greens), former Bundestag Vice President. Teltschik said, in motivating the appeal, “We are giving a political signal that the justified criticism of Russia’s Ukraine policy should not wipe out all the progress that we have made in the past 25 years in relations with Russia.”
Below is an excerpted translation (source) of the original letter found here.
Nobody wants war. But North America, the European Union, and Russia are inevitably driving towards war if they do not finally halt the disastrous spiral of threats and counter-threats. All Europeans, including Russia, are jointly responsible for peace and security. Only those who do not lose sight of this goal can avoid fatal actions.
The Ukraine conflict shows that the quest for power and domination has not been overcome. In 1990, at the end of the Cold War, we all hoped that it would be. But the success of the détente policy and the peaceful revolutions allowed people to become lethargic and careless. In both East and West. The Americans, Europeans, and Russians all lost, as their guiding principle, the idea of permanently banishing war from their relationship. Otherwise it is impossible to explain either the West’s eastward expansion without simultaneously deepening cooperation with Moscow—a policy which Russia sees as a threat—or Putin’s annexation of Crimea in violation of international law.
At this moment of great danger for the continent, Germany has a special responsibility for the maintenance of peace. Without the will for reconciliation of the people of Russia, without the foresight of Mikhail Gorbachov, without the support of our Western allies, and without the prudent action by the then-Federal government, the division of Europe would not have been overcome. To allow German unification to evolve peacefully was a great gesture, shaped by the wisdom of the victorious powers. It was a decision of historic proportions.
Once the division of Europe was overcome, permanent peace and security, from Vancouver to Vladivostok, should have developed, as had been agreed by all the 35 heads of state and government of the OSCE member states in November 1990, in the “Charter of Paris for a New Europe.”. . . This goal of postwar policy has not been achieved to this day. People in Europe are forced to live in fear once again.
We, the undersigned, appeal to the Federal Government of Germany to assume its responsibility for peace in Europe. We need a new policy of détente in Europe. This is only possible on the basis of equal security for all and mutually respected partners. The German government is not pursuing a go-it-alone policy, as long as it continues to call, during this stalemate, for calm and dialogue with Russia. The need of the Russians for security is as legitimate as is that of the Germans, the Poles, the Baltic States, and the Ukrainians.
We must also not push Russia out of Europe.... Since the Congress of Vienna in 1814, Russia has been a recognized global player in Europe. All who have tried to change that have failed violently, the last being the megalomaniacal Germany of Hitler, which set out in 1941 to murderously subjugate Russia.
We call upon the members of the German Bundestag, delegated by the people as their political representatives, to deal appropriately with the seriousness of the situation. . . . Whoever is constructing a bogeyman, putting the blame on only one side, is exacerbating tensions, when the signals should be for de-escalation.
We appeal to the media, to more scrupulously adhere to their obligation to provide unbiased reporting than they have hitherto done. Editorialists and leading commentators are demonizing entire nations, without fully taking their histories into account. Any journalist experienced in foreign affairs would understand the Russians’ fear, since members of NATO in 2008 invited Georgia and Ukraine to join the Alliance. It is not about Putin. Heads of state come and go. What is at stake is Europe.
On October 3, 1990, the Day of German Reunification, Federal President Richard von Weizäcker said: “The Cold War has been overcome, and freedom and democracy will soon be in place in all countries. . . . This is a challenge. We can achieve it, but we can also fail. We are facing the clear alternative to unite Europe or fall back again into painful historical examples of nationalist conflicts in Europe.”
Until the Ukraine conflict, we here in Europe thought we were on the right track. Today, a quarter of a century later, Richard von Weizäcker’s warning is more apropos than ever.
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The full list of signatories:
Mario Adorf, actor
Robert Antretter (Bundestag ret.)
Prof. Dr. Wilfried Bergmann (Vice – President of the Alma Mater Europaea)
Prince Luitpold of Bavaria (Royal Holding and license KG)
Achim von Borries (director and writer)
Klaus Maria Brandauer (Actor, Director)
Dr. Eckhard Cordes (Chairman of the Committee on Eastern European Economic Relations)
Prof. Dr. Herta Däubler-Gmelin (Minister of Justice Retired)
Eberhard Diepgen (Former Governing Mayor of Berlin)
Dr. Klaus von Dohnanyi (Mayor of the Free and Hanseatic City of Hamburg)
Alexander van Dülmen (A-Board Company Filmed Entertainment AG)
Stefan Dürr (Managing Partner and CEO Ekosem-Agrar GmbH)
Dr. Erhard Eppler (Federal Minister for Development and Cooperation retired)
Prof. Dr. Heino Falcke (Propst iR)
Prof. Hans-Joachim Frey (CEO Semper Opera Ball Dresden)
Father Anselm Grün (Fr.)
Sibylle Havemann (Berlin)
Dr. Roman Herzog (Former President)
Christoph Hein (writer)
Dr. Dr. hc Burkhard Hirsch (Bundestag Vice President retd)
Volker horns (Academy Director Retired)
Joseph Jacobi (organic farmer)
Dr. Sigmund Jähn (former astronaut)
Uli Jörges (journalist)
Prof. Dr. Dr. hc Margot Käßmann (EKD Council President and former bishop)
Dr. Andrea von Knoop (Moscow)
Prof. Dr. Gabriele Krone-Schmalz (former correspondent for the ARD in Moscow)
Friedrich Küppersbusch (journalist)
Vera Gräfin von Lehndorff (artist)
Irina Liebmann (writer)
Dr. hc Lothar de Maizière (Former Prime Minister)
Stephen Märki (artistic director of the theater Bern)
Prof. Dr. Klaus Mangold (Chairman Mangold Consulting GmbH)
Reinhard Mey and Hella (Songwriter)
Ruth Misselwitz (Protestant pastor Pankow)
Klaus Prömpers (journalist)
Prof. Dr. Konrad Raiser (eh. General Secretary of the World Council of Churches World)
Jim rocket (Photographer)
Gerhard Rein (journalist)
Michael Röskau (Secretary ret)
Eugen Ruge (writer)
Dr. hc Otto Schily (Federal Minister of the Interior Retired)
Dr. hc Friedrich Schorlemmer (ev. theologian, civil rights)
Georg Schramm (comedian)
Gerhard Schröder (former chancellor)
Philipp von Schulthess (Actor)
Ingo Schulze (writer)
Hanna Schygulla (actress, singer)
Dr. Dieter Spöri (Minister of Economics)
Prof. Dr. Fulbert Steffensky (Cath. Theologian)
Dr. Wolf-D. Stelzner (Managing Partner: Institute for WDS analyzes in cultures mbH)
Dr. Manfred Stolpe (Former Prime Minister)
Dr. Ernst-Jörg von Studnitz (Ambassador)
Prof. Dr. Walther Stützle (secretary of defense Retired)
Prof. Dr. Christian R. Supthut (Board Member Retired)
Prof. Horst Teltschik (former adviser at the Federal Office for Security and Foreign Policy)
Andres Veiel (Director)
Dr. Hans-Jochen Vogel (Federal Minister of Justice retd)
Dr Antje Vollmer (Vice-President of the German Bundestag Retired)
Bärbel Wartenberg-Potter (Lübeck Bishop retired)
Dr. Ernst Ulrich von Weizsäcker (scientists)
Wim Wenders (Director)
Wenzel (Songwriter)
Gerhard Wolf (writer, publisher)
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The city is Ponta Grossa.
More precisely, a colony of Poles settled in Itaiacoca, 32Km away from Ponta Grossa (white stone in Tupi-Guarani) since 1870, my father died two years ago, even 14 years old spoke Polish at home.
@ Smacker:
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Polish translated saying: Who knows where it comes from, you know very well where it goes.
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Enjoy your summer :-)
"You, Americans, this time, messed with great people."
Why did you have to add "this time" in the above sentence ?
"...the justified criticism of Russia’s Ukraine policy should not wipe out all the progress that we have made in the past 25 years"
Well, you could have fooled me. When will somebody, anybody, actually come out and state exactly what Russia's policy is in Ukraine? And explain what it is doing that Washington and its cronies are not doing?
"...North America, the European Union, and Russia are inevitably driving towards war if they do not finally halt the disastrous spiral"
I see no evidence that Russia is driving towards war in Europe. That is Washington/Westminster/Brussels and NATO.
Meanwhile I hear no comment from anybody in Westminster expressing concern about the rising tensions being created by NATO and its masters.
+10!
"I see no evidence that Russia is driving towards war in Europe. That is Washington/Westminster/Brussels and NATO."
I think you are spot on. Search for my post on this blog for 'Vineyard of the Saker' or derivatives thereof, as I believe this is the evidence for why they are NOT interested in war.
Thanks. I think you're referring to the Saker "Double Helix: China-Russia". I have read that and it's a superb insight into what's going on.
The best thing that could happen is disbanding NATO.
Exactly.
In a multi-national world, we no longer need an anachronism like ZATO.
If you leave them alone, they will wander off and get into trouble. Let Europe handle Europe.
We have fish to fry in the States!
Lots and lots of fish to fry here... First wake up the fileters...
+10!!
The plummeting ruble may force the Russian President to rethink his adventures abroad
Stability was always the watchword of Vladimir Putin’s presidency, and for more than a decade it rang true. Ever since he came to power in 2000, Putin presented himself as the antidote to what Russians call the “wild ’90s,” the decade of economic upheaval that culminated in the crash of 1998. The high price of oil, and the fortunes it brought the Russian petrostate, have since allowed Putin to keep his promise of prosperity and economic growth. But this week the myth of Putin the Stabilizer collapsed, along with the value of the national currency.
Driven down by a six-month plunge in the price of oil, the ruble lost about a quarter of its value against the dollar in the first two days of this week, its steepest fall since the crash of 1998, when Russia defaulted on its debt. The central bank took drastic measures to avoid the risk of another default on Monday night, hiking interest rates from 10.5% to 17% in a desperate attempt to make Russians keep their rubles in the bank instead of spending them on foreign currency. But it came too late. The rate hike, also the steepest since 1998, only managed to forestall the collapse of the ruble for about 10 minutes when markets opened on Tuesday morning.
Putin, meanwhile, kept his head in the sand. Reporters who called his spokesman with questions about the ruble’s fall were told to call the Prime Minister or the Cabinet, as though the economy was not the President’s concern. The most notable item on the Kremlin’s website on Tuesday was a presidential order to prepare a “fundamental” history of the region of Crimea, which Putin annexed from Ukraine this spring. Though it was hardly a tonic for the national economy, this decree hinted at Putin’s plan for riding out the storm.
The annexation of Crimea, which drove Putin’s approval ratings to record highs this year, is still the main pillar propping up his popularity. But that is not likely to remain the case, according to Lev Gudkov, head of Russia’s leading independent pollster, the Levada Center. “The more people are connected to the market economy, the more critical they are of the rhetoric and demagoguery of our President,” Gudkov wrote in an analysis published on Tuesday. By spring, he predicted, public discontent would reach down to the poorest and least educated segments of the population, as economic realities they see all around them stand in ever starker contrast to the rosy picture presented on Russian state TV.
The government admitted as much on Tuesday. “We are ending the year with 15.7 million poor people nationwide,” said Olga Golodets, the Deputy Prime Minister in charge of social affairs. “And in the context of inflation their numbers will inevitably grow, especially among families with children,” she told a meeting of officials and social workers.
That’s a startling prospect for a nation that has seen a steady decline in the poverty rate since Putin came to power. But when the Cabinet held an emergency meeting on Tuesday to discuss the ruble crisis, the ministers failed to come up with any concrete measures to prevent the economy from sinking into a deep depression next year. Already there is talk of Russia being forced to introduce capital controls, or imposing restrictions on foreign trading to make it harder to sell off rubles. That might be enough to save the economy, but it would damage domestic firms and outrage the business elites who have been among Putin’s closest supporters.
As the recession takes hold, the state’s most reliable means of deflecting public outrage will, as usual, involve blaming the West. So far pro-Kremlin news outlets have tended to avoid blaming the fall in the oil price on some kind of American conspiracy, but Putin will be tempted to offer the public such fables as the economy continues to sink. “This is the only answer,” says Kirill Petrov, chief analyst at Minchenko Consulting, a Kremlin-connected political-advisory firm. “This line would be effective, at least in the short term.”
Still, the Kremlin seems to recognize that, in the longer term, it cannot continue its struggle with the West over Ukraine without piling ever more strain on the Russian economy. That much has been clear from Putin’s softer tone toward Ukraine during the recent drop in the ruble’s value. On Tuesday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov even denied that Moscow has “any difficulties” in its dialogue with Ukrainian leaders, and his American counterpart, Secretary of State John Kerry, said the same day that Russia has been making “constructive moves” toward resolving the Ukrainian conflict.
It’s not likely to be enough to persuade the U.S. to ease the pressure on Russia’s economy. Indeed, President Barack Obama is expected later this week to sign a bill piling more sanctions on Russian state companies and businessmen. That may provide fresh ammunition for Putin’s anti-American rhetoric, but it could worsen what is already a dire economic situation at home. And if the President continues trying to dismiss those problems as the necessary price of his foreign policy, the core promise of stability that he made to his people upon taking power will crumble along with his country’s currency. At this rate of economic decline, the “wild ’90s” could wind up feeling tame in comparison with what’s to come.
Your posts to me sound more like those of an AIPAC Patriot.
Damn, call the office, somebody left the AIPAC filter off again.
Lake, just ignore the fucker. Responding to him just gives him oxygen. Starve the Beast.
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A Russian cosmonaut should kill an American astronaut on the space station.
Other than that, you're about the stupidest shit I have ever run across, in addition, you're a complete dumbass.
See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya.
Be careful with this ...
A Russian can kill up to twelve cosmonauts on the ISS without intending to.
A Russian kills sleeping that much people unintentionally.
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You don't criticize the numbers? Or who is affected? Or who is already poor and can't afford to buy foreign goods?
“We are ending the year with 15.7 million poor people nationwide,” said Olga Golodets, the Deputy Prime Minister in charge of social affairs.
USA has over 100 million on Welfare, so who is the poor nation? That is 33%.
Ethnic groups:
Russian 77.7%, Tatar 3.7%, Ukrainian 1.4%, Bashkir 1.1%, Chuvash 1%, Chechen 1%, other 10.2%, unspecified 3.9% (2010 est.)
Population:
142,470,272 (July 2014 est.)
Workforce: 75 Million
US Population over 300 Million.
So, what the 60 krauts are saying is that this ramped up military tension that's emerged in Europe is all Russia's fault because of his unspecified policy in the Ukraine. Bbut we shouldn't allow it to start a new war.
Oh yeah. Right. I must have missed the Washington/CIA/State Dept/EU inspired coup in Kiev ... and the shooting down of MH-17 and blaming Russia/Putin for it.
The way I read it I thought they were accusing the USG of being unilateral in their attack, not Russia.
(Reuters/Dmitry Astakhov/RIA Novosti/Pool)
Vladimir Putin wants to have his dollars, spend them too, and invade Ukraine.
That's impossible, of course, but he's trying to make it a little less so with some financial legerdemain that covers up what's really going on. Putin, you see, is forcing Russia's companies to spend their dollars instead—but Russia's government will be on the hook if those firms get into trouble as Russia's economy implodes. So Putin, in other words, is playing a financial shell game to try to buy enough time for oil prices to rebound and bail him out.
Russia's problem, as I've said before, is that it doesn't so much have an economy as an oil exporting business that subsidizes everything else. And that business is in bad shape now that oil prices have halved the past few months. Cheaper oil means Russian corporations have fewer dollars to turn into rubles, which is just another way of saying that there's less demand for rubles—so its price is falling.
Free falling, actually. The ruble, which started the year at 33 per dollar, gradually dropped to 60 before suddenly dropping to 80 on Dec. 16. It was a run on the currency. People flocked to their banks to turn their rubles into dollars and, failing that, stampeded to stores to buy whatever foreign goods they could—luxury cars, Apple products and Ikea furniture—before their money lost any more value. Even jacking up interest rates from 10.5 to 17 percent, basically paying people to keep their money in rubles, wasn't enough to persuade them to do so.
And then the panic was over. Well, at least for now. The ruble stabilized, then it rallied, and now it's settled at around 54 per dollar. What changed? Simple: Russia's government started turning its dollars into rubles, and it started strong-arming Russia's companies into doing so as well. Specifically, the government spent $15.7 billion of what was its $414 billion war chest in the past week alone. That's a pretty high burn rate. And it's even worse than that because Russia is counting on that money to bail out not only its currency, but also its government and companies.
The math is pretty brutal. Russia's government, you see, will go from surplus to deficit now that its oil revenues have dried up. And it can't borrow the money it needs, because Western sanctions over its incursion into Ukraine have cut it, along with everyone else in Russia, off from international credit markets. So it will have to start dipping into its rainy day fund to cover its bills.
It's already using that money, though, to bail out its banks. Here's how the dominos line up. Russia's companies, as Paul Krugman explained, borrowed a lot of dollars the past few years when it looked like the ruble would keep going up and up. So those dollar debts—which can't be rolled over, again, because of the sanctions—are harder to pay off now that the ruble has collapsed. That's bad news not just for the Russian companies that might default, but for the Russian banks that lent them money.
So far, the government has seen its $530 million bailout of Trust Bank, a mid-tier lender known for its Bruce Willis ads, balloon to $1.9 billion in a matter of days—with plenty more to come for other banks. Indeed, the government announced that two other lenders will probably need $5.9 billion the next few months, and from there, who knows how much more. It's no wonder that Russia's banks mistrust each other so much that they won't lend to each other on anything but punitive terms for even short amounts of time. And that despite the fact that the government told them that they could pretend they hadn't taken losses by not marking their books to market.
Russia, in other words, is stuck in an economic catch-22. It can't afford to spend too many dollars bailing out its currency when it needs to use that money to bail out its companies. But those companies, which have a lot of dollar debts, will need even bigger bailouts—as will the banks that lent them money—if Russia doesn't bail out its currency. So either way, it's going to have to spend its dollars, but it can't really afford to do that, either. That's because $400 billion of reserves is more like $200 billion. Think about it this way. If you spend half your money bolstering your currency and your financial system, and that's still not enough, why should the other half be either? Markets will smell the blood in the water and attack until the ruble completely collapses and companies go broke.
So Putin needs to find more dollars, and he needs to find them now. Where, you ask? Well, the answer is as obvious as it is unlikely: Russia's companies. Now, the government has said it will never use capital controls—forbidding people and corporations from turning their rubles into foreign currency—even as it's started to introduce them. It's already ordered the big exporters to sell some of their dollars for rubles, and then keep their dollar reserves at that level from now on.
But think about it. There's a problem here: The government is basically taking dollars from companies that have a lot of dollar debts. So how will they pay back what they owe now? Well, if you guessed that in true circular fashion the government would lend companies back the dollars they need, you'd be right. The central bank, you see, will lend dollars and euros for up to a year to banks that have lent dollars and euros to corporations. Or, if you ignore the middleman, Russia's central bank is lending dollars directly to Russia's companies.
The point of all this is to hide how many dollars Russia is actually spending to prop up the ruble. And in that, at least, it's succeeding. It's not easy to keep track of how much money Russia is committing when it's spending its reserves, forcing companies to spend theirs, and then loaning those companies the dollars they now need. Because if companies default on these dollars loans, it will turn out that the government was spending these dollars all along. That shouldn't happen, but it still could if the combination of low oil prices and a deep credit crunch make its economy shrink somewhere between 5 and 10 percent next year, like people think it could. In that case, the central bank would probably print however many rubles these companies need, which it basically already did for the big oil producer Rosneft, and then watch the ruble fall further as markets catch on to the sleight of hand.
Putin could end at least some of this pain if he gave up his imperial ambitions in Ukraine and the sanctions were lifted. If he doesn't, though, and oil prices stay around $60 a barrel, then Russia is going to be hit by the double whammy of rising unemployment and rising inflation. To give you an idea how serious it's getting, Putin is already talking about putting price controls on vodka now that all prices are starting to climb.
Putin's going to find out if letting them drink vodka works any better than letting them eat cake.
basically,
russia's central bank is playing the market maker of last resort:
http://blogs.ft.com/maverecon/2007/08/the-central-banhtml/
So: monetary policy is easy; preventing or overcoming a financial crisis is hard; managing the exit from a credit squeeze without laying firm foundations for the next credit and liquidity explosion is harder still. Our central bankers should earn their keep by acting as market makers of last resort. Covering the central bank’s posterior is less important than preventing avoidable financial instability.
junked again for stating facts...
is this some kind of sick joke? ;-)
You really need to ask this? Really?! Okay, let me get it straight: This is a joke - and is indeed a very sick one ...
You assume the sanctions would be lifted if Russia walks away feom Ukraine. I see no evidence that th US would loosen sanctions. The US wants Russia destroyed.
There won't be any war. Nato is broke and let's not even talk about the state of the German military. We wouldn't want to embarrass them.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/07/germany-military-hardware-d...
If the USA wants war with Russia, it's going to have to go it more or less alone, with maybe Poland.
And then it would be bye bye, America.
Zero Hedgers have had yet another popular meme destroyed:
"Vladimir Putin is a competent leader who will lead Russia to prosperity."
Whatever Putin does, it will be very difficult for his people. They will not like having it difficult after 20 years of things improving.
Here , let me fix that:
"Barack Obama is a competent leader who will lead his country to prosperity"
(Sarc)
Slumping oil prices have put Russia's economy on course for a sharp recession next year, its finance minister said on Friday, as authorities scaled up their bailout for the first bank to succumb to the recent ruble crisis.
The economy is slowing sharply as Western sanctions over the Ukraine crisis deter foreign investment and spur capital flight, and as a slump in oil prices severely reduces Russia's export revenues and pummels the ruble.
The government has taken steps to support key banks and address the deepening currency crisis in the past week, including a sharp and unexpected interest rate hike, but analysts are pessimistic on the outlook for both the economy and the ruble.
Finance Minister Anton Siluanov told journalists on Friday the economy could shrink by 4 percent in 2015, its first contraction since 2009, if oil prices averaged their current level of $60 a barrel.
Siluanov also said the country would run a budget deficit of over 3 percent next year if the oil price did not rise.
"Next year we will, without doubt, have to bring the Reserve Fund into play," he said, referring to one of Russia's two rainy-day funds intended to support the economy at times of crisis.
Crude prices have almost halved from their June peak amid a global glut and a decision by producer group OPEC not to cut output. Saudi Arabia said on Friday it was prepared to withstand a prolonged period of low prices.
"We need to have our budget break even at $70 per barrel by 2017," said Siluanov.
Separately, Russian Economy Minister Alexei Ulyukayev said he sees inflation at 10 percent by the end of next year.
"The inflation forecast is tough, high. We forecast the level of 10 percent at the end of the year (2015),'' Ulyukayev told Rossiya 24 television on Friday, noting that inflation would remain in double digits throughout 2015, peaking at the end of the first quarter or in the second quarter.
Putin's economic aide Andrei Belousov said on Thursday that annual inflation was at 10.4 percent and could reach about 11 percent by the end of the month, hurdling the psychologically significant 10 percent mark for the first time since the 2008/09 global financial crisis.
Russia's government imposed informal capital controls this week, including orders to large oil and gas exporters Gazprom and Rosneft to sell some of their dollar revenues in a bid to shore up the ruble.
Russia's central bank said on Friday it would provide up to 1.1 trillion rubles ($20.4 billion) at a three-month credit auction secured by non-marketable assets on Jan. 12. That would be a record amount offered at this type of auction.
Russians have kept a wary eye on the exchange rate since the collapse of the Soviet Union, when hyper-inflation wiped out their savings over several years in the early 1990s.
The ruble's will inevitably lead to higher inflation next year, which after years of stability threatens President Vladimir Putin's reputation for ensuring Russia's prosperity.
The Russian currency slipped on Friday after hitting its strongest levels in more than three weeks earlier in the day.
The ruble last traded at over 54 per dollar, a sharp rebound from its recent all-time lows of 80 but still far weaker than the 30-35 range it was trading at in the first half of 2014.
"If oil goes down to $50 (per barrel)... I don't think our authorities will be able to artificially maintain the (ruble) rate even with higher sales by exporters," said the head of treasury at a major Russian bank, who asked not to be named because he is not authorized to speak to media.
The falling ruble has prompted panic buying of foreign currency in Russia and a spike in deposit withdrawals, heaping pressure on a vulnerable banking sector whose access to international capital markets has already been restricted by Western sanctions.
Siluanov said on Friday that authorities would provide additional capital to the country's second-largest bank, VTB, and fellow state lender Gazprombank.
VTB could receive 250 billion rubles and Gazprombank 70 billion rubles to help fund investment projects, including those planned by Russian Railways, he said.
It was not clear whether this support would be in addition to the 1 trillion ruble capital boost the banking sector is set to receive as part of legislation recently approved by parliament.
Credit agency Standard & Poor's said this week it could downgrade Russia's rating to junk as soon as January due to a rapid deterioration in "monetary flexibility" in the country.
Meanwhile Russian gold and forex reserves have fallen to their lowest levels since 2009. Last week, reserves dropped by as much as $15.7 billion.
I'm not familiar with your posts. So I may make many false assumptions.
- The people hurt by Energy Prices are Russian Oligarchs, and it seems there are only 110 Individuals who own 35% of all Russian Industry
- Russian Mafia engage in Hacking, Computer Crime, Prostitution, Drugs probably, Human Slavery & Trafficking, Gambling, probably Stock Trading... they should do okay in a Energy Crisis
- The Exchange rate of Rubles don't effect the majority of Russians and especially those outside of Moscow, since the wages are low, and consumption of foreign goods is not going to effect the average person unless it is food, shelter, vodka, Electricity, Heat for houses
- Even workers in the Energy Industry in Russia are probably not making much money and won't be effected... since you have Oligarchs the executives are the most hurt by Energy Price Collapse
Wikipedia sums up nicely.
The economy of Russia is a high-income mixed economy with state ownership in strategic areas of the economy. Market reforms of the 1990s privatized much of Russian industry and agriculture, with notable exceptions in the energy and defense-related sectors.
Russia is unusual among the major economies in the way it relies on energy revenues to drive growth. The country has an abundance of natural resources, including oil, natural gas and precious metals, which make up a major share of Russia's exports. As of 2012 oil and gas sector accounted for 16% of the GDP, 52% of federal budget revenues and over 70% of total exports.[25][26]
Russia has a large and sophisticated arms industry, capable of designing and manufacturing high-tech military equipment, including a fifth-generation fighter jet.
But I am ignorant of Imports in Russia...
Imports - commodities:
machinery, vehicles, pharmaceutical products, plastic, semi-finished metal products, meat, fruits and nuts, optical and medical
instruments, iron, steel
Imports - partners:
China 16.6%, Germany 12.2%, Ukraine 5.7%, Japan 5%, United States 4.9%, France 4.4%, Italy 4.3% (2012 est.
How many times in history does it take to understand Ivan rolls back, goes to ground, then comes after your ass with everything he's got. No weapon, soldier? Pick one up from a dead comrade! Fight!
Only megolomaniacs like Hitler and Napoleon or stupid Askenazis think they can beat the Bear.
The US and the Bear need to be Business Partners, not staring each other down the barrel of a gun.
"- The Exchange rate of Rubles don't effect the majority of Russians and especially those outside of Moscow, since the wages are low, and consumption of foreign goods is not going to effect the average person unless it is food, shelter, vodka, Electricity, Heat for houses."
My wife is Russian and we Skype weekly with her extended family, located east of the Urals. They report that virtually everything is going up, even on seemingly unaffected domestic products. Also (and somewhat paradoxically for me), they report that as oil prices fall, benzene (what they call gasoline) has been going UP in price. That's a bit of a head scratcher for me, but may reflect Russia's limited refining capability - I just don't know.
I can believe that about benzene prices... Overhead & Oligarch profits.
Bottom line --- messing around in Ukraine has angered the Bear who does not have the power to stop further messing around by EU goaded by Neocons, Poland and other neighbors with territorial, religeous and cultural grudges.
Entire initiative has been a mistake as was Iraq, Afghanistan, etc and will result in similar costly chaos.
Zero Hedgers, my gift to each of you this Christmas season is actual information and analysis about Russia and its growing isolation and deterioration.
Not conspiracy theories or unsupported conjecture, but real facts - imagine that!
Happy Holidays!
Is this real or fake??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT085isnyB0
Who has dispelled this?
I listened to the entire clip. Hard to know what to make of it. I disagree on several points, but especially with the idea that Putin is not in charge (particularly of the central bank).
It's pretty clear to me that Putin is essentially acting as a dictator of Russia. The Duma doesn't oppose him on anything, and whatever Putin wants from them, he gets - he's not stymied in the least.
No doubt the US, in coordination with Europe (especially Merkel) is putting substantial pressure on Russia vis-a-vis Russia's interference in Ukraine. However, it's not obvious that the US will in the end be able to force Russia out of Ukraine, which is in awful shape economically. I have been to Russia four times, and my understanding is that economic conditions are far worse in the majority of Ukraine. Many Ukrainians, while not particularly fond of Russia per se, are nevertheless enamored with the newfound prosperity that has come to Russia by virtue of its burgeoning energy clearinghouse status.
My wife's extended family in Russia have been beneficiaries of that growing prosperity as well. In 1998 - during my first year-long visit to Russia - the entire extended family had but one old "Moskvich" automobile. Today every family member has a car.
Without more in the way of evidence, I tend to shun the pat conspiracy explanations. The US obviously still holds great sway in the modern world by virtue of hegemony and its reserve currency status. Others are understandably chafing under this regime, but change comes slow (despite virtually everyone here on ZH's desire for it to happen at a faster clip). Recall that the British pound took decades to lose its role as reserve currency.
Like most folks on here, I'm a bit frustrated that gold and silver haven't appreciated more quickly in dollar terms, but I guess I'm resigned for the long haul. The silver lining is that metal is a relative bargain at the moment, so I'll be content with that.
Please pass along your thoughts on the clip.
Well I think Putin risks holding power if he presides over giving up Ukraine. No Western or European Leader can survive that since our roots are in Empires.
I was surprised that Wikipedia describes the Russian Economy as having high income. Damn Government Statistics. Oligarchs high Income or Salary skew the figures. But I have never been there nor to Ukraine.
Prior to the War in Crimea I was interested in some videos about the Ukraine. I noticed some nice women tried to find husbands, but also storied of women being kidnap and other stories of crime. Quiet a few years back, maybe 10 years back I saw a story of travel in the Ukraine which described two parts of the country: One were people were nice and helpful and the other where people might treat Westerner with silence and act glum and unhelpful.
When power shifts from one ethnic group to the other, you see winners & losers. I think this has played out in the Ukraine between the Russians and the Ukrainians since 1990.
About the Video Clip on the Russian Central bank. I tend to believe the narrative. The reason is most investment in Western Economies doesn't seem to benefit the Economics of the people or create jobs and new businesses.
I notice that foreign Investment in the USA is higher than Private Domestic Investment despite all the Money created on Wall Street over 100 times higher. My guess is in Latino countries the wealthy can get money for their projects while there is little money for common people to start businesses. And when I look at UK or Spain or Portugal I see under developed industry and jobless people.
The Model is one of using foreign Labor & Resources to make money for Nabobs (Trade Industry). Free Trade is all about Wealthy people using political power to control & monopolize consumption & manufacturing. And it is about using Slave Labor overseas while keeping Domestic Labor Supply High and Wages Low.
Russia must have engaged in this either by choice or by a Controlling Central Bank. Other wise Russia would have allowed access to Credit to bring the economy into Diversification away from dependence on Energy.
Late Add:
At issue is Obama’s support for the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), which would establish the world’s largest free-trade zone.
This is how Obama Avoids Impeachment from Boner.
The administration is moving aggressively in hopes of wrapping up negotiations by the middle of next year on a 12-nation free-trade pact in the Asia-Pacific region before the politics become even more daunting ahead of the 2016 presidential campaign.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-hopes-to-enlist-gop-in-push...
The dynamic, as the White House plots strategy for the new year when the GOP has full control of Congress, has scrambled traditional political alliances. In recent weeks, Obama has rallied the business community behind his trade agenda, while leading Capitol Hill progressives, including Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), have raised objections and labor and environmental groups have mounted a public relations campaign against it.
TPP, by excluding China, is already a dead letter.
Russian isolation? Give me a break. It is part of the largest market in the world.
How is that isolation?
You ought to try being a stand up comedian friend.
Just ask Argentina what happens when you don't play nice . . .
Silly argentina, they didn't have nukes....
This is what is needed; people with power,wealth,influence, the ones that are on the "inside" and can get things done easier than those of us on the outside who have no real influence. They need to stand up for the rest of us. Humanity only gets one chance at getting it right in regards to total war and other world threatening things. There has to be greater equality, less power in the hands of the few, more opportunities for "ordinary" people, many of whom aren't really ordinary but are not so well able to make it in this world from lack of access to decently paying employment and education. Those who have the positions of power and wealth need to understand there's only one earth, if the world degrades into a hell, there's no escaping to some other place irregardless of how much money or power you've got. The elite amoung us should know better, they've had the best educations, they should understand the world is shrinking, if humanity is ever to get off this world and go out there to the stars we need to pull it together before it's too late. There's an expiry date on the chance to get off the earth and head to the stars. Like the saying tide and time wait for no man. Only it's all of us that has a time limit. There are pychopaths in the elite who just don't care, aren't capable of caring about anyone but themselves and are too stupid to see the damage they're doing to mankind. They are the rot within the upper crust of society. It seems there's an imbalance, there seems to be more psychotic greedy fools in positions of power than in the past. If those in the elite who are smart enough to know better don't reign them in they may well destroy us all, close the book on the human species forever. What a sad ending it would be for our species to go into extinction after all we have been through in history, all that we might have been in the future. Hope and change can't just be words coming from a mealy mouthed cipher, they need to be delivered for real.
Hey, I wished it was not like this, but America top men want war. It is pretty clear. Unless the entire world unite against these crazy guys (that unfortunately have enough money to buy out any opposition)... we'll have war.
What is shocking me is that few of us realize it... but it is in plain sight, really...
There will be no war. Putin will fail. You don't understand the big picture. Putin has the same problem.
General Hummel: Do you know who I am? Did they tell you why I am doing this? Why I am out here? Or are they using you like they did everyobdy else?
John Mason: All I know is that you were big in Vietnam. I saw the highlights on television.
General Hummel: Then you probably have got no fucking idea what it means to lead some of the finest gentlemen on God's earth into combat, and then watch their memories get betrayed by their own damn government.
John Mason: I don't quite see how you can cherish the memory of the dead by killing another million. This is not combat, it's an act of lunacy, General Sir. Personally, I think you're a fucking idiot.
General Hummel: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriotism." Thomas Jefferson.
John Mason: "Patriotism is a virtue of the vicious, " according to Oscar Wilde.
[Hummel knocks him to the ground.]
John Mason: Thank you for making my point.
Ahh Propoganda at some of it's finest
In other news (Putin's latest chess move):
Can Russia's Vladimir Putin help deliver a Palestinian state?http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Can-Russias-Vladimir-Putin-he...
NATO thought Russia will give away Crimea
that was a big red line crossed
from now on Russia will not back off up until nuclear annihilation of the civilization
Chosenites are anything but civilized, they're barbaric. Annihilate the barbarians!
The are carriers of the war gene no doubt.
Repost:
What means Christmas, if Congress & Media don't talk about Important Issues at all at Christmas Time.
What are Gay Marriage, Marijuana, LBGT Politics, Big Gulps, Smoking in Restaurants, and stop and frisk THE big issues... I can see how Stop and Frisk is part of a larger issue but....
Christmas in the Capitalist Capital of the Globe is about:
1) Capitalism
2) Marketing
3) Consumerism
4) GDP & Revenues & Retail Success
5) the Past, 2,000 years ago
I'm not actually against Christianity or Islam or Buddhism or Hinduism or whatever... Why can't we have Nativity Scenes in front of Government Buildings if the people pay for them...?
But the Spirit of Christmas is about Sweeping Reforms in Government, in Education, in K-12, in the Free Press, and in Communities & Families...
- Thankfulness
- Charity
- Grace
- Forgiveness
- Absolution
- Repentance
- Making Amends
USA is a Psy-Op. USA is going to crash from ignorance. USA is mostly corrupt, and focused on Envy, Greed, Covetousness, Materialism, Fear, Debt, and the need to work to satisfy Patriarchs...
WTF. Thanks for many 2014 Screw Jobs CON-gress!! Thanks for f*cking me up the Ass US Corporations.
I refuse to be a "Cog" for your business.
Germany may come out on top in 10 years, but USA & EU are going to be Japan... like Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal, UK.
"It can't afford to spend too many dollars bailing out its currency when it needs to use that money to bail out its companies."
Wrong. Hard-pressed enough, they can just divest from their investments in the West, switch to bilateral currency swaps with China, India, BICS and other countries not fully controlled by the U.S./E.U. and then default on all these loans. Since E.U. banks are much more exposed to these Russian loans than American ones, E.U. would sink into the deepest depression ever.
White Europeans at its best!
This time have the decency to BLOW _UP your Brains ones for all...
Live the HUMAN race alone!
We will survive and ship to another planet as a "HUMAN", not as a PSYCHOPATH...
R E P T I L I A N S …
Here is the prove: { http://bit.ly/1pMCQv5 }
Saludos...
It's those white Europeans that are inbred, the chosenites.
Saludos!
Then again, if it wasn't for those white Europeans, you'd still be running around the jungles eating human hearts.
Russia will not back down from the zio banker cabal that has enslaved the world, that has the blood of 300 million on their hands.
I hope.
It's now Russia, China, India, Iran, Brazil, Venezuela, etc...
Sorry, China ain't part of that list. Nor is Brazil or India. The FED controls those two countries central banks. China is part and parcel with the FED. But, your right, the clock is ticking and their is little hope left.
The German populace do not want war of any kind and will not support it, but what the political elite do is another question.
It seems obvious their interest is in keeping the peace with both Russia & the US - two important markets for their econcomy. How long they can walk that tightrope depends on how far the US pushes them, since I believe when push comes to shove, the Germans will not turn their back on the US - given their sense of historic obligation after WWII re: the Marshall Plan & more recently with American support for German re-unification.
Russia has shown in its history that it won't tolerate threats to its security or national borders...it has made that clear more recently re: NATO in Georgia & now Ukraine - anyone who thinks that Putin (or any other Russian leader) will back down is making a large error in judgment.
Can the US be so far gone that they actually believe they can defeat (or just humiliate for that matter) a nuclear power without consequence or is this part of a scorched earth policy where, if they can't be the dominnant world power any longer, then their only purpose is ensuring China & Russia can't either?
I expect the focus to pivot from the Ukraine to the Middle East at some point - especialy if oil prices stay low - Russia obviously gets hurt by low oil, but the US shale likely even moreso since its costs are in $US & not devalued rubles. The Saudi's are the driver of oil prices & one reports suggests their purpose in keeping prices low is not really about Russia or the US, but to damage & destabilize Iran & its government. Iran along with Syria are close allies of Russia & perceived as a threat to the House of Saud -
Could Russia retaliate for the Ukraine mess it is being dragged into, by trying to destabliize Saudi Arabia (say take out a couple of its top oil wells thru a limited nuclear strike) & thereby supplant Saudi Arabia as the world's top oil producer (followed by Iran?)
If the Ukraine continues to escalate, I expect Russia will respond, perhaps with an invasion into Ukraine, but that would only be a side show...the middle east will be where the real fireworks could erupt into full-scale military war.
I often wonder how the American oligarchs will manipulate this crisis so that the public supports a war against Russia and willingly sends its family members to die again for the 1%.
That question causes me to lose sleep at night. I really worry about FF events pulled here...
Eisenhower said war is man's greatest folly and those who pursue it or fail to prevent it are a black mark on all of humanity.
I'm sure our government is constantly keeping that thought in mind...as well as the Constitutional limitations of government...
What did Eisen-however call his assault and burning of the Bonus March camps when he and Patton torched them? A humanitarian action??
That was MacArthur. Ike followed orders but was not in favor. Ike was an underling of Mac at the time.
FDR had a lot on that one, too.
I wish Ike was back.
Can you imagine being the guy who says yes on the largest invasion in history and the results are on his shoulders?
We badly need guys like Ike, Marshall, but no neocons.
Eisenhower's mom was a Jehovah's Witness. Hows that for ironic.
Eisenhower was a war criminal.
The USSA NeoCon/Bolshevik Plan:
1) Ignite White-Goyim European Civil War
2) Crackdown on USSA Goyim
3) Finish the job of asset-stripping both
4) Middle East conflagration for a "Greater Israel".
You get the picture.
I would not want 2.5 million Russian Troops ransacking Berlin again, either.
No War.
We have been at war with the chosenites for thousands of years, why stop now?
The tribe lured all parties to war, IMO.
Not ALL of the tribe, but a certain part that has NAZI in their name.
The bullshit started with some bankers saying "there was Moral Hazard if the Governments of Countries were allowed to print their own money and make their own Budgets".
We have been corrupted & Enslaved ever since by Bankers who have no morals, who act to change legislation on
- Standard financial practices
- Standard Accounting Practices
- Financial Ratings
Then they changed the Bankruptcy rules and limits on Banking.
Transportation, Energy, Communication, Finance, Free Trade, Campaign Finance
1978 - Bankruptcy Reform Act of 1978,
1980 - Depository Institutions (J. Carter, followed by S&L Crisis, 5000 convictions, RTC)
1981 - Executive Order 12287, (R. Reagan, removed price controls on Petrol)
1992 - Energy Policy Act (H.W. Bush)
1994 - NAFTA, Deregulation of Trade, 3 Nations (W. Clinton)
1996 - Energy (W. Clinton, followed by ENRON Scandal)
1996 - Telecommunications Act (W. Clinton, cross ownership)
1999 - Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act (Phil Gramm, W. Clinton, followed by 2008 Financial Crisis)
1999 - bombing campaign in Kosovo (W. Clinton, over 60 days)
2000 - Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 (P. Gramm, W. Clinton, derivatives)
2002 - McCain–Feingold Act (G.W. Bush, Campaign Finance, soft money unlimited)
2005 - Energy Policy Act (G.W. Bush, subsidies, excluded clean air Water acts)
2005 - Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005 (BAPCPA).
2009 - 2014 Continuing Resolutions in which Congress gives up Budget Powers
2010 - Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission (money is free speech for corps)
2011 - US combat in Libya (B Obama, over 60 days)
- (Laissez-faire economic policies)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution
100% correct. You don't enslave the people, you enslave the money and their productive capacity. It's cheaper. You let them feed and cloth themselves.
This is the link I posted below on Russian Central Bank. What you are saying reminds me of this. Is this real or fake?? I responded to American Patriot below that I think it is real based on what I think I sense about Latin American, European, and US Banking & Investment in their Domestic Businesses.
Of course we have decapitalized & instituted Free Trade to take advantage of Slave labor and hold US Wages & Population down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT085isnyB0
Cowards. They know we'll whip their ass again.
USA!
USA!
USA!
Makes me want to puke when i hear that the Vichy DC ' are considering lifting their sanctions on Iran '. Russia , China and India ( others ) don't give a rat's arse about the USSA & Puppet Captured Gubbermints of the EUUU, in fact it is good news( ie plenty current and future trade for these BRICS ). The USSA are now having to consider lifting these sanctions which are hurting western companies and establish a foothold in Iran and in Africa.
In the REAL FUCKING WORLD that i reside and participate MANY German & Russian companies are JVing in Global Energy Projects in Brazil, Argentina, India, Iran and many others countries. 6000+ German companies operate in Russia; German companies are cap in hand to China for ANY growth,
FUCK THE USSA.
TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LATE WAS THE CRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yet we befriend the sauds and support their farflung adventures, a country more akin to nazi germany than any on earth today.
World War Three is a mathematical certainty and so is the breakup of the EU. Germany can kiss my ass.
War with Russia. This is such crap. What's happening to the articles on ZH.
Bankers, Elites, Oligarchs, Money Trust, Revolutionaries, tools of secret police... these are the advocates of war.
What are you smoking? You don't think US Left Wing & Ring Wing Groups are infiltrated by government agents & Proxies???
This is true back to Communist scare of the Wobblies in the USA early 20th Century (100 years), Industrial Workers of the World (IWW).
"...But North America, the European Union, and Russia are inevitably driving towards war if they do not finally halt the disastrous spiral of threats and counter-threats."
If I had been smoking, dork, it wouldn't mean I'm stupid. This whole thing is hyperbole. The war referred too will be, uh, the end. Now go climb into your bunker, put your tin foil hat on and figure out how you are going to repopulate the earth underground.
Fucking academics. They know their historical minutae, but they somehow overlook that all difficulties, everywhere, every time, past, present and future are financed on both sides by the same entities.
Idiots.
German Chosenites waving the white flag?..
I dunno, Germany.
The oil pipeline spigot just closed. It just closed, just like that!
Now how did that happen?
I'll get back to you next spring.
All the best,
Vladimir
Checkmate. Pun tend.
You ain't seen nothin yet. They'll run a flash flag op such as a dirty bomb or something in Europe or America to rally the fools.
RT journalist films how Russians bait Ukrainian army into returning fire on residential areas
Filming from an ‘secret location,’ an RT journalist lent a hand in documenting further how Russian forces intentionally fire from residential areas in order to provoke Ukrainian forces with the intent of drawing return fire on the area.
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The camera then pans to show that they have started a large fire on the property of a small home adjacent to their set-up.
Camerman zooms in on the handiwork before fleeing
They then, realizing the damage they have caused and knowing this may warrant return-fire from the nearby Ukrainian forces, promptly flee the area.
We’re going to get out of here because now it is dangerous [...] there is the fear that missiles will start coming in, so let’s get out of here.
The practice of firing from residential areas by Russians has been long documented in the war and has utility both in providing human shields, or in aiding the propaganda that Ukraine is intentionally firing on civilians for no particular reason.
http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/09/08/rt-journalist-films-how-russians-b...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWHuYTZ0JK4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khTkNhnF2ZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqJdQYGe0sA&sns=tw
More videos of Russians shooting straight from the apartment buildings, then running away because Ukrainian army will shoot back, but who cares about those who live there. They will just make a video for the RT/RIA viewers(retards) who will believe anything they will reprot, such as Ukrainian army shelling buildings for no reason...
Are you a Chosenite or something?
Nah, just another Latvian potato troll.
What total bullshit!! Go back to your settlement and continue your worship of Mammon . . . .
Dickweed you avatar suits you.
The dude firing the grad is novorussian. I've seen him on Cassad and the Vineyard.
They all look russian but I can't tell one chinkniggerroundeyebignosebaldy from another.
Shit, I should have rounded that down to
Goyim
(maybe not the bignose part)
Heads of state come and go...but the bankers remain the same.
Bravo.
If Europe continues to follow the mis-Leaders of my country, and their corrupt bankster masters, another round of destruction will surely follow.
Someone posted a quote from Thomas Jefferson. Here are a few more:
"I sincerely believe... that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies."
"The spirit of this country is totally adverse to a large military force."
"Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto."
"If God is just, I tremble for my country."
I wish TJ was still with us.
Head of states come and go
But their heads do sometimes roll
And do they ever like to lead
But it's the people left to bleed.
With good old Germany at the front
And tiny Greece taking the brunt
They will put the Russians in their place
Even though Europe will lose half her face.
Be assured that life's a lease
And best lived in quiet peace
So best to fight with pen and heart
for there's no end when guns do start.
Anonymous (can't risk taking credit for bad poetry)
"Fuck the EU." - that one dudes wife
There will be no war. NATO will have defectors first: Turkey, Germany to name 2. NATO is done.
Vlad's recent Economic Deal with Turkey will drive a wedge into ZATO!
So you get up arrowed for the obvious. I get down arrowed for the obvious. My feelings are hurt.
Hey People, is old News!...
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Paul Craig Roberts ( ?o ?? ?o)
¡Feliz Año Nuevo!..
The premise is misguided. It is not about the Ukraine and never was. Russia has already had control of Crimea through their base and fresh-water port at Sevastopol. Nor is Russia worried about Eastern Ukraine -- they can quell that shitstorm overnight. The Ukraine is an epic misdirection (which is a shame, since the Ukrainians are good people just trying to get by like everyone else. Artful US meddling in her internal affairs has brought on this mess and the "crisis" is by no means self-inflicted.)
It is, however about Russia's and China's cheeky attempts to crush the US dollar hegemony by trading oil, gas and weapons in rubles and yuan and entering into currency swaps with other BRICs. The US cannot and will never stand for this and Putin needed to be spanked. Hence the massive drop in the price of oil to wreak havoc all over Russia's economy. Russian roulette on a global scale.
I tend to agree with you. Has anyone for instance done a calculation to see what the Saudis are making now in profit as opposed to what they were making before the price drop?
My bet is that they are losing money only for the sake of an ulterior motive that has nothing to do with market share and more to do with pinning the Russian bear down.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/industries/banking/story/2012-05-09...
http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/orders/20120509a.htm
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/21/us-usa-treasuries-china-idUSBR...
Russia is more alone then you can imagine.
Yawn. Take out a map and look closely at Asia. Below Russia is China, strong allies and trading partners. Check out all of the Asian countries that trade with Russia. Only the geographically challenged american shlub are dumb enough to describe russia as isolated.
Slight corrections.
1) Sevastapol is a warm water port, not fresh water.
2) There is nothing "cheeky" about the attempts to crush the USD - Russia, especially, has been trying to live with Washington/Wall Str economic dictates for 25 years, but the enthusiastic embrace of all-things-American under Gorbachev and Yeltsin led to disaster, until a more intelligent leadership brought Russia back from the brink of total collapse via the IMF, World Bank and other instruments of US manipulation of everything.
There is nothing "cheeky" about Vladimir Vladimovich Putin having his finger on the pulse and playing chess whilst Western so-called 'leaders' have shot themselves in the foot playing Snakes and Ladders.
Of course, in a fit of pique, the psycho bit players might over-throw their game of chance and go psychotic with all-out nuclear war; so then it would be a moot point who won, because we would all be dead.
Meanwhile I pin my hopes on Putin, his team and Russias allies, who have so far prevented any serious "spanking".
OK, warm water. Cheeky:
impudent, impertinent, insolent, presumptuous, forward, pert, bold, bold as brass, brazen, brazen-faced, shameless, audacious, overfamiliar,irreverent, discourteous, disrespectful, insubordinate, impolite, bad-mannered, ill-mannered, unmannerly, mannerless, rude, insultingHere is the culprit:
Between December 1999 and October 2000, Roman Herzog was chair of the European Convention which drafted the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union.
Gerhard Fritz Kurt Schröder. He is currently the chairman of the board of Nord Stream AG, after having been hired as a global manager by investment bank Rothschild.
Gazprom
As Chancellor, Gerhard Schröder was a strong advocate of the Nord Stream pipeline project, which aims to supply Russian gas directly to Germany, thereby bypassing transit countries. The agreement to build the pipeline was signed two weeks before the German parliamentary election. On 24 October 2005, just a few weeks before Schröder stepped down as Chancellor, the German government guaranteed to cover 1 billion euros of the Nord Stream project cost, should Gazprom default on a loan. However, this guarantee had never been used.[22] Soon after stepping down as chancellor, Schröder accepted Gazprom's nomination for the post of the head of the shareholders' committee of Nord Stream AG, raising questions about a potential conflict of interest. German opposition parties expressed concern over the issue, as did the governments of countries over whose territory gas is currently pumped.[23] In an editorial entitled Gerhard Schroeder's Sellout, the American newspaper The Washington Post also expressed sharp criticism, reflecting widening international ramifications of Schröder's new post.[24] Democrat Tom Lantos, chairman of the United States House Committee on Foreign Affairs, likened Schröder to a "political prostitute" for his recent behaviour.[25] In January 2009, the Wall Street Journal reported that Schröder would join the board of the oil company TNK-BP, a joint venture between oil major BP and Russian partners.[26]
Hitler (during the lost years in Vienna)
"I saw a dark evil shape in a caftan, a man with long curly sideburns. I wondered what kind of man this was, this specter. He must be a Jew. Then a thought struck me: 'Was he a German? (no!)'"
'Hitler's anti-semitism was part and parcel of Vienna in those days, but the future Fuhrer believed they controlled by money-lending, and striking by laying in wait for Aryan Girls who they could sully and corrupt with their blood. Their goal was to eliminate the Aryan race and replace it with impure blood of the sub-races they brought in to Europe...they had plans, Hitler felt, to exterminate the White Europeans...
Yet Hitler never figured out the Top Zionistas were using him for other Nefarious reasons for their AshkneNAZI future...a future in which by their power of Finance, would Rule the World...
Thus was Hitler's mind made up in the doss-haus days of Vienna.....
WTH This guy, Walther Stützle, is like in a marriage between UK & Germany in international relations & strategic studies....
Life
After graduation 1961, Walther Stützle 1961-1962 Reserve officer candidates in the Navy . He studied from 1962 to 1966 Political Science at the Free University of Berlin , the University of Hamburg and the University of Bordeaux ; He earned a degree in political science and was appointed Dr. rer. pol. doctorate; then he was a lecturer at the Theodor Heuss Academy of the Friedrich Naumann Foundation operates. In 1968, he worked at the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London .
From 1969, he held various positions in the Ministry of Defence . 1977 and 1982 Stützle directed the Planning Staff of the Ministry of Defense. His military rank is Lieutenant of the reserve.
From 1983 he was a correspondent for the Stuttgarter Zeitung . From 1986 to 1991 he was director of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute . When Berliner Tagesspiegel he was 1991-1994 deputy editor and editor in chief from 1994 to 1998.
In the years from 1998 to 2002 he was Secretary of State in the Ministry of Defence. After his increasing disempowerment in favor of the Inspector General Harald Kujat Stützle resigned. [1]
Walther is Stützle since September 2004. Senior Distinguished Fellow, Stiftung Wissenschaft und Politik . [2] [3] He is also a freelance writer and holds various teaching assignments. Since 2009 he is also Chairman of the International Advisory Board of the Federal Chancellor Willy Brandt Foundation in Berlin.
Does anyone here think that Obama reaching out to Cuba is anything more than trying to keep Russian ships missiles and troops out?
Exactly my thought.
No, well at least not me.
Mariel boatlift x 1000.
More FSA voters.
Driving the hard train up hill all day, four foot of snow in the high country, elk hoppin all about, Christmas Tree land galore, lakes of heavens grace on another grand day in La-la land, it now comes to the pondering mind, what on earth is happening?
The truth comes moar and moar every day. Folks are doing the research and homework to empower themselves even moar with the facts. The rabbit hole is deep. Truth only hurts at first, then it empowers one to seek MOAR!
The bankster evil hates to see truth revealed. Darkness is lit up for all to see. Ego hates truth. The luciferian/satanic doctrine is all about ego. Ego hates absolute Love/God. Ego thinks emotionally, and not with the heart.
Right now, every man Jack on board here is a teacher to share the truth about corruption, and criminality. Pass this site on as the world greatest forum of thinkers, truth seekers and sayers. Herein is the World Intelligentcia and babylon does not like it at all. This site will be among the first to go down after the next contrived govt sponsored and controlled false flag event.
History sadly repeats and evil is always the same. Evil! No new dark tricks under the sun. Just the same old sick shitshow of killing and murdering for profits and world domination using the money god to lure in the masses for extinction. Take those last two planned and controlled world wars, for instance. Who profited from all that? You bet, the same asshatz that want to do it all over again. Does this make you angry? It better! 9,999,999 out of 10,000,000 are slated to be the victims of this next planned for the bankster profits, WORLD WOAR! Hey all militaries, who wants to go fight and die for the banksters woars??
Come on all you brave killers and psychopaths, jerk trolls here too, go fight for the rothschild banksters and send flowers home to mommie if you make it to next Christmas. THIS goes for all militaries world-wide. Stop being puppets and pawns on the luciferian bankster game boards. Stop being the money-god's stupid stooges!
So what to do? Whack at the hydras head, and not the quickly replaced tentacles. THIS!...is the Way back to personal prosperity and individualism among community. There are more than enough good men and women to stop the entire shitshow if they choose to. Evil profits and flourishes when good people do nothing to stop it, and often at the cost of their own lives for not seeing the plain Jane corruption and crimes right in front of their own faces.
There is no excuse for being purposely stupid. Purposeful ignorance is still the greatest of all sins. Highly luciferian/satanic. A really bad karmic no-no. Those who think ignorance of truth will save them in the long run are stupid to think so, and if stupid indeed now does what stupid does, then purposeful stupid is worse than all the idiotic stupid things they manifest in their words, deeds, and actions. Ultimate stupid, is ignorance deluxe.
Take a listen to this cat linked below. He is a turned from the dark side to the Light, wise Warrior in the awakening to greater things and times we are all facing soon. All these worlds are similar to what Mark has to say in the linked shows. We are in the same game and on the same team. It will simply come down to what is good that will survive, or what good will perish for lack of knowledge and truth. Perish for lack of care, and reasoning ability. Perish for being inadequate and unable to defend themselves. America has become the milk toast nation and is too farking stupid to realize it. Those that perpetuate the stupidity in media will have a greater hell to pay than most. Right up there with the evil things that own the loud mouth liars, and deceivers.
Pt 1:
http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Passio/2014/12/Passio_1_122014_210000.mp3
Pt 2:
http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Passio/2014/12/Passio_2_122014_220000.mp3
Remember, the awareness of the bankster schemes and criminality to profit from the crash and wars is only the first step of total awareness. The next step is the universal one and focusing the eyes to the skies for the natural cyclic occurrences, or what can also be babylonian made events. Everybody knows these money junkies are going to do something, or keep the attention on everything else but what may come from below and behind the Sun. Distractions, distractions, distractions. What babylonian bankster antics are coming next? Any guesses??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-0TEJMJOhk
American gangsters want to 1) loot RF's resources 2) encircle China, make them kneel to the anglosphere NWO. Russian gangsters say fuck off, we still have nukes. Egging everyone on from the sidelines are american neocons and military contractors, who are smarting from the end of the last 12 years' festivities, and are sporting wood at the thought of a permanent war in east europe. NO ONE gives a shit what the europeans think, they will be america's bitch forever. Idiots (McCain included) all think they'll ride it out in Battle Mountain if it goes nuclear. Fucking morons. All ivy league. Amazing.
There is no European public willing to fight a war like this. There are no European armies capable of fighting such a war. Both sides have nukes. Both sides most likely have "illegal" weaponry. The age of European warmongering has long passed. That torch has been passed to others. Now all that needs to be done is say "no". Western Europeans certainly have seen enough to know this.
European public opinion was also against WWI and WWII but yet these wars happened. And as you said,both sides have nuclear and "illegal" weapons and Europeans armies are incapable of fighting such war therfore it seems to me that Europe is pretty much powerless to prevent anything. The US and Russia are playing their geopolitical games and Europe cannot do anything about it. Europe has to choose side and has chosen the US because that was historically already chosen. But "Fuck the EU", is all one needs to remember. Putin said a few weeks ago that a major conflict in Europe is coming. Our European leaders have learned nothing from the events in Georgia in 2008.
Europe chose the US side -- up to the time when harsh winter set in and it needed Russian natural gas and oil. What does Europe need from the US besides fat tourists gaping at the sites of history's Disneyland?
Europe's leaders think they are different from the megalomaniac leaders from 1914 thar plunged a continent into doom but they are not that different. And from reactions I hear, Europeans themselves are not that different from the poor souls in 1914 that happily and full marched to their deaths.
"Editorialists and leading commentators are demonizing entire nations, without fully taking their histories into account."
So are 60 signatories:
"the last being the megalomaniacal Germany of Hitler, which set out in 1941 to murderously subjugate Russia."
"Fuck the EU" is all one needs to know when it comes to this whole thing in Ukraine. Europe is being played and the European sheeple are willingly playing along.
We could end this war in ten minutes by launching a preemptive strike on the BANK OF INTERNATIONAL SETTLEMENT in Basel Switzerland and hang all the dirty moneychangers in NYC.
There is no war without a financial facilitation. WHAT? Are they going to finance a war using bitcoin?
If the Isrealis want to play games let's send the Germans to free the Palestinians from the Israeli Concentration camps i.e West Bank and Gaza.
I repost what Manthong said below: "Bankers need a distraction from the coming half quadrillion dollar derivatives structure collapse even larger than the 2001 Pentagon distraction from the 3 trillion dollar unaccounted expense scam."
It's the US and London who NEED war to hide the financial fraud about to unfold. Followers are nothing but bought, bribed, and paid for lapdogs.
If there is a war it will be fought in Europe, long term I think the US would take advantage of the destruction to further solidify its position in the world. after the war there will be the need to re-build, US and Banks win, people of Europe and Russia will be the big losers for at least several generations..
The US will be happy to supply the weapons..
Someone asked about where the State of Brazil half my blood has Slavic origin, answered the question, if I'm not mistaken is in 5 of the comments page.
Oh, it's in Paraná!
More details, read the complete answer.
:-)
FWIW, I don't think that the next war will be fought with conventional or even nuclear weapons. There is no sense in destroying markets for American products. The next war more likely be fought with computers and financial re-engineering, monetary innovation. In a world addicted to debt, you can choke a nation by freezing them out of capital markets, by shutting off their lifeblood of money with which to buy essential commodities. This creates internal strife, protests and revolutions, leads to the overthrow of governments and minimizes casualties for the perpetrator. The Arab Spring was a good test run. More to come.
Those who think they are losing will most certainly resort to military actions.
USA's other big worry now that it has firmly welded Russia and China is a military and space techonology exchange between the two...and sharing of intelligence and particularly satellite based technology and an eventual cooridination of Russian missile defence/attack with Chinese military assets...for a just in case scenario. China now doesn't have to spend Trillions on defence hardware and technology thanks to symbiotic ties with Russia, forced by USA. China and Russia thank the USA for doubling there defence capability at zero extra cost.
The USA's geppolitcal games have now ensured that it can only go so far in its military aggression, knowing that an all out war will see it very badly damaged and with no certain outcome. And most certainly the US mainland will suffer heavy direct damage in a global war. In fact the final outcome may well be a dominant Asia and a very broken America.
For a long while there US geopolitical stupidity was focussed entirely on encircling China and thwarting China's asperations, thus making it very clear to China that it should take every step to 'insure' itself. Then moving onto Russia the US has showed its hand very clearly....and created a very large and powerful economic, resource rich military opposition.
The US may have far greater military assets, but Russian military techology is often superior. That is thanks to corruption in US based military spending where the best path is subverted for the most profitable path for Defense corporations. So they produce very expensive shit like the F35 that even old Russian planes can shit on.
Putin regime propoganda at ZH 24/7
You know if America wants war fine, but let it be on American soil for a change. Leave Europe out of it.
Overdrawn-You know if America wants war fine, but let it be on American soil for a change. Leave Europe out of it.
Then why don't you in Europe learn how to defend yourselves instead of relying on the west. The no gun culture has worked soooo wonderfully. Pacifism kills. Being prepared and willing to fight prevents a lot of unwanted wars.
Just ask neville chamberlain
So what shall we ask Neville Chamberlain who died of stomach cancer in November 1940 ? Shall we ask him how he funded Rolls-Royce to build Merlin engines after 1935 ? How he funded Watson-Watt's project Radar ? How he funded Rolls-Royce Shadow Factories and subcontractor network ? How he paid for the Crewe factory ? How he funded monoplane fighters such as the Hurricane ?
Chancellor of the Exchequer 1931-1937 he reversed the defence cuts of Winston Spencer-Churchill as Chancellor 1925-1929 who cut the defence fortress at Singapore and the Royal Navy.
Chamberlain declared war at 11am on 3 September 1939; France at 5pm; the USA declared NEUTRALITY and made Britain pay them
So what shall we ask Neville Chamberlain who died of stomach cancer in November 1940 ? Shall we ask him how he funded Rolls-Royce to build Merlin engines after 1935 ? How he funded Watson-Watt's project Radar ? How he funded Rolls-Royce Shadow Factories and subcontractor network ? How he paid for the Crewe factory ? How he funded monoplane fighters such as the Hurricane ?
Chancellor of the Exchequer 1931-1937 he reversed the defence cuts of Winston Spencer-Churchill as Chancellor 1925-1929 who cut the defence fortress at Singapore and the Royal Navy.
Chamberlain declared war at 11am on 3 September 1939; France at 5pm; the USA declared NEUTRALITY and made Britain pay them
I'm impressed.
Not many people know their history well enough to know that Mr. Chamberlin just had one really bad day out of many good in service to England.
No one knew better than he that GB was not ready to face the German war machine without serious American assistance of money and material.
His public assurance of 'Peace in Our Time' belied his private belief that war was enevitable and England needed more time to prepare.
WW3 is all being engineered by the NeoCon/Bankster criminal cabal.
Why aren't these punks swinging from lamp posts?
the view from the black forest is pretty good. this letter is a step in the right direction. the daily pravda over here didn't mention it nor is it likely to. goebbles done a damned good job. remmebering that one can draw cultural distinctions without being a racist, the germans do have certain qualities which distinguish them from the french and others. they are tame followers for the most part. the marshall plan and its indoctrination progrrams have been hugely successful in making the people here much less willing to go to war than the americans. at the same time, they have been highly propagandized against individual freedom and for the 'higher freedom' of social collectivism. thus the huge buy-in of the EU farce and the dumbed down 'color party system' most people her subscribe to. germans don't go out on the streets as quickly as the french do. their warlike tendencies have been effectively channelled into soccer and they are collectively and selectively delusional in their ability to keep NATOs tendencies in a different box than hitlers'.
A half-attempted article to bring sense and realism back against the Wests neo-con propaganda offensive. However it still falls victim to that same propaganda.
They foolishly state "Putin’s annexation of Crimea in violation of international law" when it was indeed legal under international law of the United Nations. The Law the West constructed to legitimise its illegal invasion of Serbia in 1998. The West then amended the UN treaty retrospectively to allow foreign invasions to support independence movements. The West changed International Law after Kosovo to justify its illegal actions but has now (hilariously) made Russia's annexation of Crimea legal. Talk about an 'own goal'!!!
Do as I say not as I do.
It's all about another war:
http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2014/12/europe-get-ready-for-war.html
This is a perfect idea! All we have to do to stablise the economy and oil prices is make oil and money directly equivalent. Also, let me tell you about my brilliant idea for eradicating AIDS with the patented no-condom fuckathon.
You left out the most important factor in this. The 800 lb gorilla or 2 ton elephant in the room. Jewish power. This has been a Jewish War on Russia from day one. Look at the cast of characters in terms of both pundits and political players.
Some say Conservatives are rattling their sabers at Putin because they hark back to the Cold War days when things were simpler. Not so. They are bitching about Putin for the same reason they bitch about Palestinians. To win Jewish support and money. Conservatives know that Jews are the most powerful people in America with a lock on many top institutions. They know that the great majority of Jews are Democrats and Liberals. They know that many Jews don’t see eye-to-eye on many issues that are important to Conservatives.
So, Conservatives try to over-compensate on foreign policy to win over Jews. If Democrats are 99% pro-Israel, GOP tries to be 200% pro-Israel. If Dems have just a smidgen of sympathy for Palestinians, Republicans pretend that Palestinians are the new Nazis who must be ground to dust. If Democrats are anti-Russian, Republicans try to outdo the Democrats by making Putin out to be new Stalin-Hitler-Ming-the-Merciless.
It’s all about groveling. We live in a country where a freak like Sheldon Adelson can casually say we should drop a nuke on Iran but still gets to play an important role in politics. Notice not a single Republican called out on his craziness. They are all running dog slaves of Jews, and so their foreign policy agenda is molded to pander to Jews.
Jews hate Russia because Putin has stood for majority culture, heritage, religion, patriotism, and national identity. He’s been good to Jews, but he’s stressed the importance of Russian identity and culture above all in Russia. He’s not anti-minority, but he thinks Russians should be proudly pro-Russian. If we use the logic of Putin-ism, every European nation should stress its own national identity, culture, and heritage instead of ‘diversity’, ‘multi-culturalism’, ‘white guilt’, and worship of the Holocaust as the new religion. This is why Jews hate Putin. Not because Putin has been anti-Jewish — if anything, he’s been overly generous to Jews — but because he’s been pro-Russian. In the US, Jews love it when white folks praise Jews and Jewish culture/history/religion/identity(along with homosexuals) to high heaven, but they get very upset when there is even the slightest peep about white identity, white interests, white unity, and white power. And this is why Obama is with Jews on Russia. Obama has no personal animus against Putin. But as a black man as president in a white majority nation — and as his main allies are Jews and homos, both minority elites — , he also finds it alarming that Putin stands for majority identity, pride, unity, and power. He’s afraid that the Putin bug will spread throughout Europe and then may infect white folks in the US as well.
That is why Jews have been working overtime to destroy Russia. It is why Jews have been promoting the likes of the Pussy Riot and Masha Gessen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9M0xcs2Vw4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NzuJVQQ348
Friedman is above all a Jewish supremacist. Paul Krugman is above all a Jewish supremacist. They are not just some abstract ‘liberals’. They are tribaliberals whose main identity is Jewish. Paul Krugman and Friedman feels more camaraderie with Jewish oligarchs in Russia than with working class Democrats or black underclass in America.
Notice that Jews bitch about the oligarchic structure of Russia but overlook the fact that Russian Jews with the aid of American Jewish ‘advisers’ created the new order during the Yeltsin yrs. Putin inherited this order; he didn’t create it. Btw, given that US is run by the likes of Soros and Adelson, how is it not a form of oligarchy as well?
And Jews don’t care about the suffering of the Russian middle class in Russia. If anything, they’ve feared the rise of a Russian middle class under Putin since middle class Russians would associate their improvement with Putinism. By destroying the middle class, Jews want to make Russian middle class hate Putinism and everything it stands for: nationalism, majority identity, Christianity, family values, etc.
Jews were behind foreign policy during the Clinton years and what did they do to Iraq? Sanctions killed 100,000s of women and children. Madeleine Albright is a criminal like Kaganovich, the Jewish henchman of Stalin who killed millions in Ukraine during the Great Famine.
Jews didn’t care about dead Ukrainians. They didn’t care about dead Iraqis. They don’t give a damn about dead Palestinians. Under Obama, Jews undermined stability in Libya and Syria, creating conditions that led to deaths of over 200,000.
So why would Jews care about Russians?
Through most Jews are secular, their view of humanity is supremacist and out of the Old Book. Gentiles are seen as cannon fodder or expendable cattle in the service of Jewish supremacist power.
America is now an evil nation whose culture amounts to something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDZX4ooRsWs
It’s a nation where Wall Street sharks and Las Vegas crooks can get away with just about anything.
This is a Jewish War on Russia. To be sure, Russians are also to blame for being lazy, confused, drunk, and slovenly. If Russians shape up like old Prussians, they can build a great nation. But too many are like ‘white trash’.
Though Russia is facing very hard times, they can turn this into an advantage. Learn the hard lesson that it cannot depend on energy export alone. Build its own industries and form closer ties with the non-West. EU, like the US, is totally under the domination of Jewish power.
If Russians are a great people, they will use the current hardship as a key lesson and build up their nation as more of an independent power. Problem is Putin is surrounded by many fifth columnists.
The current film THE INTERVIEW is about American assassinating Kim Jong Un, but the guy whom Jews really want to assassinate is Putin. The likes of Nuland who subverted Ukraine will go to any length to destroy Russia so that Jews will take it over like Jews have taken over US and forced ‘gay marriage’ on it. Consider the recent Rolling Stone rape hoax article by Sabrina Rubin Erderly. She is the Victoria Nuland of American journalism. Just as Nuland hates Russia, American Jews hate white gentiles. Yet, American Conservatives are a bunch of craven toadies like Ted Cruz who line up to kiss the asses of scum like William Kristol.
We need to speak the truth. This is not a liberal vs conservative thing. It is about Jewish supremacism. As Democratic Party is essentially a Jewish party, its main goal is to further Jewish power. As GOP is eager to win over more favors and money from Jews, it goes out of way to bark rabidly at perceived enemies of Jews. GOP is a toady of Jewish power. If Jews hate Russia, let’s bark at Russia, so thinks the GOP. If Jews hate Palestinians, let’s dump on Palestinians and laugh at thousands of Palestinian women and children killed by Israeli bombs.
Ungaro-The next war more likely be fought with computers and financial re-engineering, monetary innovation.
Uummmm I think we've been at that stage for a while now. China devalued their currency in 94 by 50% which is a form of economic war. 9/11 both 2001 & 2008 were economic attacks. Yes I know the planes and all but the symbolism was an attack on our markets. Not to mention the financial action that took place that day.
Point is you might want to get up to speed because we've been doing this a long time.
Poles tricked the British into destroying their empire in a futile gesture in 1938. Colonel Beck lied and deceived Chamberlain - even the new Polish book
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pact_Ribbentrop_-_Beck
questions what Beck achieved through war.
Now the USA will lose its empire and destroy NATO. I doubt there will be war in Europe, and I doubt NATO will last. Germany and France will probably become non-aligned and push the UK out of the EU and build an EU around The Six.
Britain is heading for oblivion and insignificance; the US is going to be locked in Central Europe and out of Western Europe
"Beck lied and deceived Chamberlain"
A feat a six year old could have accomplished, Chamberlain was intelligence challenged.