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Putin: It Is Time To Play Your Ace In The Hole
Submitted by Ron Holland via The Daily Bell,
You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
And know when to run
You never count your money
When you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin'
When the dealin's done.
"The Gambler" by Kenny Rogers
The entire world is watching Putin play poker with the Western politicians lead by Obama and followed by Washington quislings in London, Brussels and Berlin. America's goal since the end of the Cold War has been to weaken by financial, economic and, if necessary, military means any real competition to its global financial and resource domination through the petrodollar and dollar world reserve currency status.
The current trade and economic sanctions against Russia and Iran follow this time-tested action that is never successful on its own, as we know from the 50-plus-year blockade of Cuba. But this strategy can lead to opposition nations retaliating by military means, often their only alternative to end blockades etc., which are an act of war and allow the US and other democracies to bring their ultimate superior military power to bare against the offending sovereign state. This worked for Lincoln against the Confederate States of America, by Woodrow Wilson against the Central Powers before World War One, against the Japanese Empire before World War Two, Iraq, Libya – the list is endless.
Recently the US has created the oil price collapse, working closely with its client state Saudi Arabia, in order to weaken the economic power of both Iran and Russia, the two main nations opposing US hegemony, foreign policy and petrodollar policy. Yes, this will play havoc with the US shale oil industry as well as London's North Sea oil industry but oil profits pale in comparison to the importance of maintaining Western power over Russia and China.
I hope Putin realizes the US is not playing games here, as this is a financial and strategic game to the death for Washington and it's Western allies that have foolishly followed the Goldman Sachs/central banking cartel's deadly sovereign debt recipe and for growth and prosperity. The time is up; the debts can never be repaid and sooner or later must be repudiated one way or the other.
China is waiting in the wings as the new world economic power and while it is too big to challenge, US strategy is to take out its top two allies, Iran and Russia, to buy time for Wall Street and Washington. The strategy might be a competitive economic course of action but the risk of military consequences and even a third world war loom on the horizon and no country has ever defeated Russia in a land attack. This is risky brinkmanship just to protect our banking and Wall Street elites and their profits at the expense of the American people, I might add, but the US has done this before.
Is This Just a Repeat of the Versailles Treaty, Russian-style?
This has all happened before. It's the same old game with different players. I fear we are watching a repeat of the Versailles Treaty, Russian-style. If you look closely at real history rather than the establishment-directed propaganda dished out to the public, you'll realize that the Western financial elites and central banking cartel seldom change tactics. Why should they? Their financial empires continue to grow during all major wars and financial crises and if they should guess wrong, then they get taxpayers to bail them out.
The Goldman Sachs, Rothschild and Soros types control the Western democracies as well as the financial markets and use paid or blackmailed cheerleaders and front men to advance their best interests to the populace as acceptable economic or political policies.
For example, Woodrow Wilson's Fourteen Points statement given on January 8, 1918, claiming the war and US intervention was a moral cause to advance peace in Europe after World War One, was one of the leading reasons the Germans sued for peace. In hindsight, we know that American intervention was really instituted to prevent an Allied loss or negotiated settlement that could make it impossible for French and British banks to pay back their massive loans to the US banking establishment and thereby bankrupting our leading banks of the day.
Once the war was over the platitudes about freedom, self-determination and making the world safe for democracy dissolved into the Treaty of Versailles, probably one of the most vengeful and unfair peace treaties ever forced on a defeated foe. The entire Austrian-Hungarian empire was totally destroyed except for the small area of present Austria and Germany, which was stripped of much of its territory and subjected to a vengeful, unpayable war debt comparable to America's current national debt today. Sadly, the treaty created the public anger and economic chaos that eventually brought Hitler to power and set the stage for the Second World War.
So Where Does Russia Go from Here?
First, the US cable pundits are suggesting that Putin might retaliate by invading Ukraine. Why would Russia want Ukraine? Except for substantial agricultural resources that can be purchased on the open market, this is a bankrupt country with a long list of failed governments. The country has become a pawn in the battle between East and West, and its people have already suffered so much. Now Russia might move in the East to protect Russian-speaking areas and could be willing to suffer the additional economic consequences of creating a land bridge to Crimea but the military option appears quite limited and counter-productive at best.
No nation will win a shooting war between the US, UK and EU versus Russia and China. The consequences are too horrible to be contemplated but Russia has an ace in the hole that can win the financial and economic battle going on today.
First, Russia should join with China in a new gold, oil and natural resource backed monetary union as an alternative to the failed debt democracy model pushed by Wall Street, the central bank cartel and self-serving politicians in the West. It simply does not work in the long term to finance prosperity and improved standards of living through mountains of debt placed on future generations.
Washington has destroyed every tax haven and bit of personal and financial privacy in the world because of its desperate need for revenue. Every financial haven has caved, including Switzerland, because they cannot hope to prevail against the US, UK and EU. The US intends to make Russia a pariah state and cut it off from trade, funds transfer, banking and Western credit markets. It will not relent until Putin is overthrown and Russia is compliant with and a supporter of the New World Order. Next in line following Russia will be China. Thus, a monetary union could provide the needed support for Russia necessary to guarantee the independence and self-determination of China.
Second, Russia should act offensively rather than defensively on the financial front by creating corporate tax-free/low income tax zones and welcoming corporations, successful individuals and entrepreneurs to take up residence and create jobs and prosperity. The Hong Kong model does work to create industry, service industry and free-market prosperity and to win, Russia needs far more than a resource-based economy.
Russia needs more population and a larger middle class and should offer residency and citizenship opportunities to productive and successful workers, entrepreneurial businesses and corporations etc. with the right of reasonable financial and corporate privacy along with the low tax benefits.
Canada, the wonderful country I live and work in today, offers permanent residency benefits and citizenship to hundreds of thousands of foreigners wanting to work and immigrate to Canada together with low corporate tax benefits.
Russia can and should do the same, although the market will require bargain prices as Russia does not have the long history of rule of law, security and peace like Canada does. Russia should look at good climate areas like Crimea and other areas around the Black Sea and maybe Kaliningrad in the north directly in the middle of the EU.
Competititon, free markets, minimal regulation and low taxes are the 21st century solution to military aggression, over-indebted and resource-hungry empires. Putin said it best in his news conference last week.
"They won't leave [the bear] alone. They will always seek to chain it. And once it's chained, they'll rip out its teeth and claws. The nuclear deterrence, speaking in present-day terms. As soon as this happens, nobody will need [the bear] anymore. They'll stuff it. And start to put their hands on its Taiga [Siberian forest belt] after it. We've heard statements from Western officials that Russia's owning Siberia was not fair." – Vladimir Putin
Vladimir Putin, now is the time to play your ace in the hole. Russia can win the financial and economic war being waged against it but not by playing the same old game of poker where cheating prevails. Show the world that Russia is worthy of 21st century leadership in a peaceful and competitive manner by using the debt, currency and banking weaknesses of the West to defeat an opponent out to chain Russia as it has the rest of the world into surrender and serfdom.
If you are as concerned as I am about where the world is headed, consider securing a second home internationally in the right location as a means to protect you and your family. Think of it as lifestyle insurance.
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Fuck Putin. Just another in a long list of Russian tyrants masquerading as a people's savior. Since the Commies these fucks like Putin use propaganda like Putin showing off his bitch tits in the mountains on a pony to convince the Russian people he's a strong man. And you useful idiots on ZH and elsewhere juice your jockys everytime he does.
Putin's got nothing. He played the wrong chess move. He knows it. The West knows it. The little bitch us going to sit there and ride out his term until the stupid Russians reelect him again.....unless the economy really goes in the shitter even for Russia. Until enough Russians realize that maybe.....just maybe....this useless KGB fuck us the real problem.
Ban the use of the US dollar/euro, problem solved. Use only Ruble and Yuan.
What happened to the whole Putin is playing chess and everyone else is playing checkers meme? Now it's bloggers telling Putin how to "fix" things? He's an oligarch, guys. He's playing the same game of fuck the people and make off with the loot.
Obama also has an Ace in his hole... unfortunately it's just Reggie.
Lance Link is not directing anything other than what he wants to blow.
The guy loves Bankster Dick!
Putin is not a good guy, for sure...but he's smarter at the game of world politics than all the western leaders combined. A week ago everyone was saying that Obama wrecked him and taught him a lesson, but they were wrong. If we are leading the way of the destruction of the ruble then we are playing with fire. There is a lot of chess to be played before its all over and Putin knows a lot more about chess than Obama. Also, Obama has this ego thing about never compromising; beware of the animal you don't kill with a single clean shot...an injured animal is the most dangerous adversary.
Putin made billions being an oligarch via his KGB connections, working inside his government. He arrested his political opponents. He's in with the bankers. He is not your savior.
If you disagree, please remind me which business he ran that enriched him.
He's dictated, just as any pet oligarch would be. He would play, just not ace-in-the-hole we sheeples expected.
russia has other options and can use the great leverage (as in oceans of borrowed money) of the west against it. allow some russian entities not to pay back the money owed western, especially european, banks. through other entities, buy contracts for the delivery of silver and gold and stand for delivery, paying for them with treasury bonds.
WWII never ended. It will never end until the paper printing chosenites are all gone. Or we are all gone.
Jumbo is right.
He is.
I do NOT care that Putin is / isnt ex KGB Oligarch every bit as bad as the ones we have in the west. All I care about is that somebody is able to stop the western powers that be. I dont want to see a one world order. Forced multiculturalism is not working.
"Forced multiculturalism is not working."
"We just aren't that orchestrated. Shit, I could swear Satan himself is in charge of these wildcard world events. Putin has no leverage. Obama has Jew printing presses. The Chinese? Ha, they need 100 Wal Marts built.
We are all going down together. Face it." -arby63 (from below in the thread)
It took a long time, but arby's comment resonates.
I think none of us (myself included) have appreciated just how new the "internet perspective" is. For the first time in history, we in the cheap seats are capable of watching events unfold in real time around the world, in all countries at once. The temptation from this new "instant-view" is to say (as LTER demonstrates above in this thread) that these guys are all in bed together, because they are all behaving the same. I find that thought seductive, and I get the draw.
But... there are differences among these men. Putin is a Russian, and he sees himself that way. As a Russian, his pride is not going to allow him to become truly subserviant to a financial overlord that comes from a non-Russian culture. I just don't see that from him. I think he genuinely fears seeing Russia taken apart and sold for meat. Similarly, if you really think the Chinese view themselves as junior partners under a system being run from New York / London, you need only think about the term "Middle Kingdom" to know they will not play a game they don't perceive themselves to be on the top of.
No, arby has it right. All of these actors think that they can use the same methods that have been so successful for the US elite, and make them work for their interests, but they are not under the illusion that their interests are the same as those of the "Great Satan". Race alone still has meaning! These guys are not capable of getting around that basic biological prejudice to which our species is beholden.
Because they are all using the same tools (usury backed by state violence: h/t Radical Marijuana), they all end up looking the same, and they are all going to burn on the same fire. But the wars and killing among them (sadly including many of us) will be real enough. As someone who has witnessed "the elite" up close and personal in a former lifetime, I know that even people of the same 'status' sometimes just detest each other, for whatever reasons.
I see no winners coming out of this, and make no mistake... there will be blood.
There is no way the US / EU wins a shooting war with Russia and China... This would be the last option after all others fail as no one wins...
There are other nuclear options which everyone is discounting, such as outright murder of the USD by dumping USTs by China, $4.5 trillion in fact... If it is us or them, they will take the hit... They are hedged with gold to offset the loss and PMs will soar if the USDX goes to 40... This would of course destabilize the entire financial system worldwide, but it may be the only option... When a crazy person is holding a gun to your head, you do what you have to...
The alternative is more dead bankers, politicians and oligarchs until the west gets the message... I wonder what the Rothschilds would do if their numbers began to dwindle at the hands of the oppressed?
As for the assertion that Putin is a little bitch, get a grip... Who do you think the US gubbamint and the banking cabal are anyway, some bastion of free markets and human rights? Give me a fucking break... Check debt levels of the west vs east, then get back to me....
This Is Already A Shooting War Of Keynesian Currencies VS GOLD/Oil.
Most Of The Fighting Will Take Place On The Rigged Financial Markets ...
I.E. Bot Trading Algos And CB Price Manipulation, Its All Around Us Now...
Phys GOLD Is The Key, It Must Prevail.
Russia And Asians Know This, Meanwhile Our Western "Folks" Are
Mesmerised/Hypnotized By Iphones & Xboxes...
All I know is that I need to get the fuck out of DC before it becomes an ember.
Vladimir Putin’s Russia: Perfect Foil To The Anglo-American Axis And Their New World ‘Order’What? You mean also to the author of this piece's "Canada the wonderful"....a wonderfully exact copy of the USA Neo Con, neo liberal economic disaster but just trailing by ten years down the same path wonderful Canada? That Putin should copy and return the resources of Russia to the western olgarchs for looting while the Russian people look on as in Canada... whose societal structure is about to be collapsed by the neo con Harper "you won't regognize Canada when I'm done" and friends!!? Imagine a political leader that actually thinks the resources of the country should actually benefit the people of that country to at least some small dgree and then opposing the powerful forces of the rich to those ends. Putin may only be trying to save Russian resources for the Russian oligarchy but by that agenda he is saving some of that wealth for internal development which can only trickle down to the benefit of the Russian people.
You really think the warmongers in the pentagon are crazy enough to nuke themselves?
...so do I
Nail on the head.
Thank you for saving me another long posting.
Even the jewish oligarchs hate each other,and it sometimes involves fis fights at social
events I'm forced to attend for biz.They are alwars trying to get one over on each over.
At the macro level its no different.
Anglo-American Axis Wages Financial/Economic War Against Russia
Trilateral Commission Crashes the Russian Rubleafter Imposing Illegal Sanctions and
Manipulating the Price of Oil Downward
That's sad and embarrassing. It is the fruit of the spirit of greed. No matter how much they have it is not as valuable to them as the next penny
A wonderful bedtime story.
Well said, sad, but I believe well read... Sofa P
But dude you have to understand. We are always right and you(no chosenites) are always wrong.We will establish a NWO until our asses are on fire. Then we will start running again.
"Forced multiculturalism is not working."
Nor is forced deviaphilia. This is what it has come to, but to get a refreshing un-PC opinion, one must go to the Duma, of all places. Caught A BBC reporter fishing a member for comments on the decidedly non-homophilic legislation passed by that body. The unapologetic reply to her majesty's hack in effect was you are free to do what ever in private, but if you flaunt your degeneracy there and in public, don't expect any adulation for your predicament nor will any agitprop be forthcoming from the russian .guv which seeks to foist your confusion upon the rest of the populace. Quite the contrary.
Kudos to the russkies for instinctively spotting the western "trend" and then having the temerity to do the opposite. I agree that competition, any competition, can only be helpful at this point.
I'm not looking for a world run by China or Russia. I simply want it recognized that the current war-like USA regime has failed. I'm hoping we do not need a war to recognize the failure. I want this failed regime replaced by one with more humane policies.
What is wrong with a multi-polar world where differences are negotiated instead of settled by the military?
We could all use a little of 19th century Europe.
Peace with economic and scientific advancement that is not solely weapons-driven.
Hear hear.
More power to you and your philosophy.
Simply because there's no way to support the massive bureaucracies, welfare state handouts, and international oligopolies without the subjugation of the empire's client states. Ofcourse all empires need to expand as the inherent corruption and inefficiencies of running an empire results in diminishing returns on existing assets over time. Conquering more territories is the solution for the empire, until staunch resistance makes it too costly to do so. Then living standards collapse, client states rebel, and blood flows in the streets. Rinse, repeat.
While your sentiment rings true, you overlook CB debt that needs to go away (be paid off), never gonna happen.
Woar is the only antidote to the CB debt, batten down the hatches.
Mark these dates down, 7/25/2015 and 9/13/2015.
Major world events coming in 2015.
DaddyO
There's a line of dialogue in the movie "The Formula" with Marlon Brando and George C. Scott which always stuck with me.
"General, there are no more enemies. Just customers."
That indeed summarizes the post-WWII world very succinctly.
yes....profound
10 sick bastards up voted you, no doubt weaseling away their ethnic hatred with the caveat "well, only the paper printing ones". Yeah, it was only the Judefetzen printers in the ghettos. Nice informal poll. ZH has terminal cancer, start the clock.
Good news! They survived!
fuck you ya kike bastard, you khazarian jews really are the devils spawn, why is it that you bastards have been expelled from so many countries, all you fuckers bring are misery and suffering to all us 'goyim', rot in hell you hasbara troll.
About that "arrest political opponents thing". At this point, given all we know about the US backed color revolutions, isn't that the smart and prudent play?
If these "opponents" have any ties to the various gov and NGO outfits I would hope he crushes them before that bit of silliness affects the RF.
Along those lines, M. Khodorkovsky is tanned, rested and ready... and available to shepherd a post-Putin Kremlin into the broad sunlit uplands of the NWO. Just telephone the Financial Tiimes for Mr. Khodorkovsky's contact details, and a luncheon meeting.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/cb25bc5e-8448-11e4-bae9-00144feabdc0.html
He's not my savior, he's a bad actor. But he is a smart motherfucker and we should not be lulled into a place where we think we have him under control or have outsmarted him.
LTER, you're a smart and insightful guy, but sometimes I think you need some... perspective:
When it's their leaders our MSM and politicians call them Dictators, Oligarchs...
When they're our leaders and figureheads, we call them exalted names of Entitlement (Emperor, King, Queen, Prince, Princess, Sultan, Emir), Chairman or Billionaire -- even though they've done nothing for a very long time (if ever), while the minions underneath them are doing the real work, creating, inventing and building.
Our organized criminals not only get a free pass, but get Trillion-dollar bailouts. Sep. 10, 2001: Rumsfeld at a loss to explain $3 Trillion missing. Next, day, Sep. 11, 2001... total NON-issue since then. And never mind the Trillions we've gone into Debt to fight this so-caller war on terrorism, and the Trillions dollar QE's. We're talking well over $10-15 Trillion of fraudulent Debt that's been piled on -- if you care to put numbers to the extent of the fraud and high treason perpetrated -- all, allegedly, in our name. Compared to our galaxy-class criminals, their oligarchs are rank amateurs.
Your comments have greater weight when balanced and have perspective, which I recommend you keep or add.
Who's fighting Israel's wars for them? That's right, Americas Christians. Bunch of fuckng idiots.
Well then, its about time you grow a shitty little moustache and start waking them up in the beer halls.
Are you going to buy a painting or are you just going talk trash?
Je can't. He is a chosenite. Now he is chosen not to reply.
If you think it's Christians in the true sense of the definition, you seriously need to do some research, otherwise it's all crap you painting with a damn big brush.
LTER is a sock puppet whose act changes but it always manages to come up with seductive tales that lead one right back into group think and the NWO mindset. You have not read it long enough.. "There is no difference" is a classic case of Bernays methods being used to lull you back into the game, after all there is no difference, why object?
some of us read "There is no difference" as an awareness of the artificial "sides" drawn to get the unaware to envision themselves as somehow better than an other, be it via "religion" or "race" or "gender" - all completely arbitrary stories created by those chosenites like "Bernays" who SEE how easily a story can be fed to cultures, then pit those cultures against each other over time. . .
the most popular "story" being invisible lines drawn around corporate nationstates, with uniforms passed out with the "defend your state" story - perpetual war, it's part of a Man's heritage, to kill another man, rape the women and children, move on to the next battle.
THIS is history, I challenge anyone to prove otherwise. History is hatred, war, and uniform'd "reality" spoon fed from birth. for decades amrka believed itself to be special and chosen, which is an echo of WHICH PEOPLES? all the while being taxed and ruled, divided by tall tales told, and believed. and all the while, every single day of your lives, there were STILL uniformed men occupying other'd peoples lands for resource extraction, instilling hatred as they proliferate. Uniformed Men, globally occupying for those who pay them, those who ORDER them to do unspeakable acts, for pennies. THIS is history.
I read LTER's "there is no difference" as a call to dis-engage, to SEE the story, to SEE THROUGH the story, and walk away.
but that takes courage. more courage than uni-form'd animals can muster, as we can see daily. . .
much easier to cheer one side, and hate the other.
We'll agree to disagree. Its comments are intentionally leading and do not encourage stepping outside but stepping out of the fray completely, disengagement..
VV Putin was never about money
"Putin made billions being an oligarch via his KGB connections, working inside his government. He arrested his political opponents. He's in with the bankers. He is not your savior.
If you disagree, please remind me which business he ran that enriched him."
Let me guess. It was "construction". Just like my old landord Vito used to say.
I disagree, please show me these billions. If you think he is "in with the bankers" you have no clue what has happened in Russia the last 20 years.
I disagree, please show me these billions. If you think he is "in with the bankers" you have no clue what has happened in Russia the last 20 years.
Remind me how different that is from America in the late 19th early 20th centuries, when they were at a similar stage of development?
Back then they were not oligarchs they were robber barons. You will see from this list that many of their decendents still control large amounts of the US's wealth via their trust funds.
http://www.businessinsider.com/americas-robber-barons-2012-3?op=1&IR=T
Rand: I prefer a rich national laeder with his own resources and act independently rather than the puppets in the US who need the money to win elections so they do as they are told by US oligarchs and Wall Street.
If Putin were as corrupt as you say, he would have cut a new deal with the Anglo-Zionists that gives them what they wants and a lot of money for him.
The fear of many at ZH is that Putin has done exactly that, but by the evidence of how this thing is playing out so far.
He is not playing along with the US Deep State, hence they want to eliminate him as a problem, thinking that they could install a marshmallow patsy like Medvedev in his place...
Apparently, Putin mistreated some political opponents, during a time when he had a lot of latitude. What do you think the likes of Obama would do to his opponents if he had real latitude? Even without it we have universal surveillance and the NDAA. Putin looks restrained, IMO.
Like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0GDcA-gqY4
I dont think Obama even knows how to play chess. This is the cia, mic, nsa against the kgb. Putin and Obama are just pawns.
"Obama also has an Ace in his hole... unfortunately it's just Reggie."
Thats frowned upon in Russia now isn´t it.
That's frowned upon everywhere in the world. Except, apparently, n your bedroom.
Off to rousing start I see. Let me help. You need to insert the bulb and leave the bag outside your body. Carry on.
Once again a fool's comment because all of this stems from the dupe majority who want government and government creates all of these problems.
Fool me once shame on you. Fool me my entire life I'm a born dupe.
Russian citizens, at this moment in time, have far more willpower and strength than today's American citizen and so do Chinese citizens for that matter ~ its no contest; our citizens have not known and or dealt with any true difficulty since the Great Depression. Russia will be fine ~ America will be the fakebook pussey it is and allow Blankfein and friends to continously rape and pillage until we have no liberties left, oil is $300 a barrel, and the 'Commies' take control of the Great Game.
think you nailed it - road of ruin, long winding, methodical, IN YOUR FUCKING FACE, FASCISM ...
.gov trolls must be waiting around ZH for every Russian piece in order to scream in fear. Funny actually
It would be funny if it werent so sad, true, dangerous and well, wrong.
We must destroy their freedumbs in order to protect them! Its pretty gross if you think about it. I wonder if they know what they are doing is morally wrong and just flat out greasy or if they honestly think they are "right" and are part of the "global force for good". Fucking creepy more than anything really. Some sweaty, 400 pound virgin, sitting behind a computer in Poland or Langley somewher wathcing, reading, judging.
The thought police. Careful boys, thought police are a greasy lot, they would have to be.
The whole basis of government is that in order to prevent imagined possible criminality it must commit the crime of theft.
And from that breech of the camel's nose into the tent comes a never-ending onslaught of horrors created by our savior - government itself.
Tell me it's not the chosenites behind this. Go ahead, say it.
Yes, sippery people...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx2-kJwttks
We are chosenites. Now chosen to troll.
Chess, not poker. Chess: India, China, Russia. Poker? America. Zero doesn't have a clue.
What was that Mcain said? "You can't just go around invading other countries"... What a blunder.
Next day an entire jet plane disappears to distract the masses.
No, that was John Kerry's blunder.
http://rt.com/news/kerry-russia-us-pretext-494/
McCain said "Russia Is A Gas Station' Masquerading As A Country"
http://youtu.be/h8RDnbEpEG0
In which case; "America is an overweight mall cop who can't pay his mortgage pretending to be the world's policeman."
In this game of chess you have the luxury of timing your moves at the right time. Obama is in a hurry - not Putin.
Last I checked, govt holding of treasury debt declined in last 3 months and will accelerate with more loss of jobs coming up. We are at peak Social Security (expecting a big one from Bruce Krasting anytime now). Public holdings of debt increased by 198$ billion in last 66 days. Public is the only buyer in near horizon which is going to drain enormous liquidity from the markets.
I think time is Vlad's best weapon n he has to survive longer. Morever, China has his back from January 1st with the currency swaps. He has no reason to hurry his next move.
Now tell me, who is in trouble? This article is trying to lead the readers in the wrong direction. The author could have baited Obama more easily - "Obama running out of time.. don't panic and make your worst mistake!"
Anouncement today in Marketwatch; Oblah-blah issued an executive order; oh-oh. yeah, oh-oh for real. this is a good one. he's stopped VISA from honoring transactions or operating ATM's in Crimea; effective immediately. This man is insane. Can you imagine what he's doing to these completely innocent people? The Nazi's R us in Kiev have shut off the electricity to the Crimea. WTF is the point of this mindless bullshit ? Are we all supposed to be 6 years old and not able to remember that the people of the Crimea went to the polls ina model election, approved by the UN, and voted to be admitted to the Russian Federation ? Are we just supposed to pretend this didn't happen ? Or are we supposed to only be able to hear the TV Stooges repeating endlessly, invaded crimea, invaded crimea invaded crimea. Enough already; it's obvious to everyone who the criminals are here, and it's not Putin or Russia.
"Open circle" still thinks money is created as debt... Apparently he's a retard. Money is created as credit.
What is credit without debt?
QE
Well, I would rather owe it to you, than screw you out of it...
Democracy is only admitted where and when it can be controlled by the vested interests. See how they squeal when it works against them.
am i really the only one who has some doubts regarding crimean referendum? there were russian troops on the streets when the elections took place. not that it would change the outcome, but let's not get too used to this, shall we. armies and democracy doesn't mix. posse comitatus, anyone?
elections are illegitimate, regardless if there are russian, us, or un "peacekeepers" (thugs) on the streets.
and before any of you get any ideas, i'm not being apologetic to the west with this statement. read my previous posts before your usual 'look at the west' tirades.
i just can't place my trust and hope in any leader or government. they are all criminals.
Great post, thanks Open Circle.
yeah, use the yuan, pegged to the dollar by Chinese law to change no more than +/- 1%... lol that'll show 'em, losers... as mentioned elsewhere, looks like the ruble is going to end up pegged to the dollar... lol to the PETRODOLLAR muahahahahaha
What blows my mind is that so many people here are actually cheering on a Chinese/Russian "fix" the current fucked up system. China is a fascist/communist regime. Russia is not far behind. Yes, both countries are far better than they were a few decades ago, but I don't want to live in either place. Talk about jumping from the frying pan into the fire. The NWO crowd that has hijacked America looks to China as a model, and the Chinese are happy to be part of said NWO.
The only country even remotely close to creating a world government is the US. It alone is the number one evil.
Also, the US is tops in death and destruction.
America is leading the way, no argument there. My argument is with the idea that China and/or Russia are somehow resisting it. They are playing along brilliantly, but notice how they never actually do anything about it. Follow the money.
The oligarchs who run China and Russia would LOVE the idea of a One World Government. Once it is in place, then they can have a crack at looting the entire world. Increased centralization ALWAYS results in a net benefit to those at the top.
It's like democrats and republicans in this country. They pretend like they are different, but as soon as one party gets in charge, all they care about is what they can get for themselves. Then when voters "throw the rascals out," it is the other party's turn at the trough. Lather, rinse, repeat.
Exactly.
Except the only that is anywhere near achieving a world government is - gasp - the US.
What is your point? The US government is working with other world powers to enslave us all. How is this a rebuttal of anything regarding China or Russia not being the good guys?
Nice choice of words: "US government is working with other world powers".
Should read: Other countries that are our toadies are helping the US enslave the world.
I never said they were good guys. All governments are evil and I'm against the lot of them.
In the current grand scheme of things the US is pancreatic cancer and Russia or China is a cold.
Why in the fuck are you worrying about a cold?
Oh, I know why. Your ingroup-outgroup morality. Your genes are directing you to accept the ingroup greater evil over the outgroup lesser evil.
Well, that doesn't make you very human.
Listen, fucktard. Americans built a better system than anyone on earth. The Chinese have been fucked for thousands of years. The Russians had Stalin. America told the King of England to go fuck himself. I'd rather put my lot in with my fellow Americans, as fucking stupid as most of us are.
"America told the King of England to go fuck himself?"
Yeah and then they let the bankers in anyway. Who's they? ANyone who will take a bribe or shrink from a threat. They never really left. They have been hounding America from the first day of the revolution. It never backed off. Murder, fraud, deceit, assassinations is their calling card. Secrecy is their environment. The secrecy is eroding every day with the internet. There is a major shift in the world. One that has been building for centuries. These families have had their run and now we are in a whole new paridign. I will die a free man before I live as a slave.
The American people stood up to these fucks once. Most of the world can't say that, and yet the assholes here on "fight club" want Russia and fucking China to save them.
Maybe we stood up once, but we couldn't keep it.
Assholes are talking about ending FRNs not apple pie. Chill.
We're talking about the Federal Reserve being in possession of OUR money printing press. Chosenites then, chosenites now. Fuck the lot of them.
"the assholes here on "fight club" want Russia and fucking China to save them"
what do you (realistically) want Rand?
By the way, do you really believe the u.s. already controls Russia and China??
bonus question: do you ever think you're beginning to lose it?
Hi, do you miss me yet?
LTER, save them only from what the west has become. I dont want to be ruled by the ruskies or the chinks, but you are damn right if you think I want them to spank our leadership into oblivion. The west is the best place to be, bar none, but not with the twats in power at the moment fixing things purely for their own benefit.
but please understand that this (getting rid of the leaders) comes with the price. and the price is WAR.
who's going to benefit from this? we, the people? ask yourself who's going to die? who's is going to lose even more liberties and who is going to pay for the war? who is going to take over after the defeat?
thought so.
we have to walk away from all governments, if you, americans, don't man up to obliterate your fascist government yourself. essentially, all the wars are government against government. propaganda will hide that simple truth. westerners and easterners have more common than they have with their leaders, but we are constantly convinced otherwise.
Or perhaps those in America who would take down it's Fascist regime realize that it will take the actions of another state actor to weaken the beast. This isn't about heroes or saviors, this is about timing.
And you come across as a particularly whiny bitch.
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well, that was the story memorised, by amrkn children taught.
of course, the true stories are hidden away, or disappeared altogether, taken to the grave. but no matter, it's what people believe to be true, that's all that matters. tell a tall tale, create conflicting cultures, rinse repeat profit.
if you're waving a flag - ANY NATION FLAG - then you've got a predictable end in sight.
Well this ain't that America.
Yep. The Americans you could be proud of are largely gone, certainly gone from the power centers, now controlled by "bankers" and (to borrow a memorable zh-ism) zio-queer spinmeisters.
America 7.0 now has a very short shelf-life, and I have a feeing that 8.0 will be worse... much worse. And virtually unrecognizeable to those, like me, born in 1950.
1956, AGREED! excellent post...
too many fucking people everywhere
let the purge begin
i need somewhere to hide from other human idiots.
let the purge begin.
war, famine, i don't fuckling care
but, plez, let the purge begin...
3 billion will do...
You realize that you would not be fighting and dying for the American people or your notion of an American system (look what that system has gotten us today), don't you. If you're going to fight, fight the Americans who would instigate a war for their benefit exclusively. Russia will never invade the US. Neither will China. They do not possess the logistics to accomplish such an invasion. It would be too costly for them.
Would you cross the Pacific to kill 100s of millions of other people who, like you, would simply prefer to be left alone to live life, for the benefit of a handful of American/international globalists and their lackey politicians and bureaucrats?
You're describing what America is doing to other countries right?
...and the Elders of Zion are rather pleased with how things have gone thus far.
This was then (when they were more Europeans with culture and education then anything resemblin todays 'Mericans), but this is now:
America is full of shit
-George Carlin-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn16DsftSjI
Americans told the king to fuck off, then...
Those gay Frenchmen who always surrender had to save your ass?
Yet another inconvenient truth.
"Americans have become a small-minded divided people, ruled by petty hatreds, who are easily set against one another and against other peoples by their rulers." Paul Craig Roberts, Nov. 2014.
A country in which ignorance, arrogance and apathy are similarly rampant has a very bleek future. Some would say that this pathetic, sorry state of affairs has already been reached.
Rand: "China has been fucked for thousands of years"
You are a fucking idiot.
China had the world's largest economy from the time of Christ to the early 18th century.
Now, if onew uses purchasing power to mesure economic strength, , China , once again, has the largest economy on earth.
Do some reading before putting out such incredibly stupid, inane posts.
"America told the King of England to go fuck himself."
American 'elite' (the small percent of plantation owners & entrepeneurs) told the King of England to go fuck himself (after, of course, Ben Franklin went to Paris, and performed a bunch of parlor tricks to a drunken audience, and charmed the French, who had been mortal enemies with England for centuries, into backstopping the whole affair).
As always, wars are for the elite. 'AMERIKANS' (whatever they are), have no backbone for this (except for the paid mercenaries whose only job is to follow orders, and the zio-cheerleader MSM paid propagandists, who lather up the jingoism, & hide the truth).
The game never changes.
So what is REALLY the argument here, Putins central bank pumping rubles or Obama's central bank pumping dollars?
We're really not this gullible are we?
... and I strongly object to the wording of this:
Angela Merkel is nobody's "Quisling" you sons of bitchez!
Left vs. Right reinterpreted as Good vs. Bad.
All thanks to ingroup-outgroup morality.
JFC! Why in the hell is the US trying to take down Russia, Iran, and, China?
Because they are all that's between the US and a fiat dollar brick road to world government.
Read some history. The drive for these psychopaths is more control through more government over more people.
And idiots like you provide a rock-solid foundation for it.
The US is trying to take down Iran because it is a foe of Israel, which runs the US.
The US/Isreal already took down China and Russia, and own both already. Wake the fuck up.
The US owns Russia? Really? So then what is Ukraine all about? What are the BRICS all about. Please explain.
Please don't encourage him...
Yeah it feels good to believe that EVERYTHING is rigged right? The US/Jews/bankers/whatever own EVERYTHING right? Makes everything nice and futile doesnt it? Gives a window into your psyche, such a worldview.
Actually the chosenites are conspiring against non chosenites. They really are doing that. They're like that you know.
IMHO, the best way to describe what has happened is that the tribe has hijacked the United States, along with the rest of the West including Japan, for all practical purposes.
It all seems to be planned, as the blueprints are all visible in plain sight for all to see if you just look around a bit.
They have used Multiculturalism (Pat Buchanan's favorite meme in describing what is going on), Hollywood (which is either porn or propaganda), their positions of power in Academia, publishing, and the MSM to subvert and tear down older Christian society in the US and replace it with the amoral decadence which now surrounds us.They are industriously sending all this amoral materialistic poison to the rest of world, trying to destroy culture worldwide in the name of "progressivism"
All of their positions in power they have maintained, extended and enhanced by selecting fellow tribe member or "useful idiiots" to other positions of influence.
They continue to refine their power, having almost complete control at the top of the financial sector all over the world, and further enhanced with a liberal application of bribery to Congress, via AIPAC, and to the leadership of other countries.
What is really sad is that the US was a semblance of a democracy only until the technical means were available to turn it into a full spectrum Police State. With technology, we can see the Anglo-Zionist Deep State lunging towards their true goal, which they feel is almost within reach.
We are well along that path - things have truly reached critical mass.
LTER is tokyo rose reincarnated, give up there is no difference, the war is over back to sleep.. Shows up at very convenient times in threads which could influence..
" Why in the hell is the US trying to take down Russia, Iran, and, China? "
one can't just bring about one world government. what better way to consolidate power than to unite against the common enemy? that's what russia and china are useful for. it's all just a show. a show with world wars and hundreds of millions casualties. hegelian dialectic - problem, reaction, solution.
your mistake is you assume this game is played by national governments and their leaders. it's not. it's the invisible hand of the owners of the central banks (whose names we do not know) has been guiding the policies for the last few centuries. now do you really believe the central banks of china and russia are any different? politicians can, and probably are, to a large extent, gullible that they are left to their own devices. at least until they follow the grand design.
Following the money gets you to the front door. Following the belief systems shows the back door. And all the cars in the parking lot.
And following evolutionary adaptations gets you inside the money front door and the belief back door.
What, precisely, would you have them do?
China must be thinking "Why become a bit player in someone elses NWO when they can assemble their own Made in China NWO..."
Made in China NWO
It'll just break when you get it home.
... and you'll be hungry for some more NWO after an hour
Someone has to put an end to this globalist cabal. It sure won't be the Merican sheeple. I don't think anyone here wants to live under a Russian or Chinese regime. However, I am sick and tired of living under the current fascist/globalist regime.
Our parasitic sociopath masters are 90% finished in putting an end to us. No need to rush them.
I am also deeply concerned that the new Boss will suck way worse than the old Boss...
The problem is that there won't be a "boss" when this is all said and done. You will be on your own (if you're still alive) and fighting for survival. This cannot end without a war.
This cannot end without a war.
I think that's what the Kaganites are hoping for. With any luck it will all occur on Ukrainian soil and be done with quickly with conventional weapons. I just can't see the European citizenry supporting this one...
Oh, to live in the same fantasy dream world you do. It must be such a happy place.
It has lower levels of cesium and strontium to be sure...
We don't agree that often, but I think you nailed this one. Anybody looking for China or Russia to "save" us is fucking delusional. Our leaders definitely don't have our best interests in mind, so what makes anybody think that Chinese or Russian leaders might have our best interests in mind? They are looking to fuck us over even worse than our own leaders do, and are itching for the chance.
The only people that are gonna save us are ourselves.
I don't think the people reading ZH are delusional enough to believe that Putin or China want to "save us". However, sometimes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" only works if you are have barbarian armies fighting someone. It doesn't work when all of the armies in the world are on the same team.
If they were all on the same team, there would be no need for all of this posturing and you would probably already be in a FEMA camp. Russia is acting in her own interest and so is China. The globalists cannot get a grip on those countries. I'm not saying that they are the "good guys", but I'm saying that if Russia/China can deal a blow to the US-led empire, perhaps that will give the people a chance to implement some change in the globalist cabal rule.
Wake up, already. Putting people in camps is troublesome and expensive. Putting on a big kabuki theater, on the other hand, is much cheaper and more effective.
It's all a public relations game, the posturing is all part of the show.
"Putting on a big kabuki theater, on the other hand, is much cheaper and more effective"...
in order to accomplish what exactly?
Lol, the fact that you can't answer that question demonstrates my point exactly.
Hint: you are a tax donkey.
I'm a tax donkey anyway, with or without your "big kabuki theater". You still didn't answer my question. What is the point of this theater if they already OWN me?
I dont think this is as complicated as many people are making it out to be.
America is a young country with no cultural heritage to speak of and a history that as fucked up and confusing as they come, all of which has culminated to tis very exact moment in time.
Russia and China are the exact OPPOSITE of America in regards to both history and cultural heritage. Neither of those countires respect us simply because we are brash, arrogent mutts and cunts for the most part. Therefore they see no future for us in any regards to the advancement of the human race, we bring nothiing to the table beside war machines and zionist banking systems and scams.
Its as simple as this really, nobody in the world likes us, needs us or wants us around anymore, the world is tired of our shit, save for a few holdouts like Germany and Canada who are just scarred of us.
America is a whore, a dead one at that. Since 2008 the Johns have just been spraying air freshener to cover the smell and hope nobody noticed, the Johns proceeded to try and frame the Russians and the Chinese for the murder, but that didnt work. Russia and China arent snitches though and they know the Johns are going to get busted with a hooker rolled up in a Persian rug in the trunk of their Bently. Russia nd China will be there to console the world and help them move past the death of the great whore.
"America" is a concept implanted in your mind, re-inforced by schooling and "culture".
that you decide to gender "America" so that you can have an imaginary wank or fuck, well, that's YOUR mind occupied by a particularly chosen meme. that's how all wars are created, how all INVASIONS are imagined in the minds of men. isn't it convenient that "nations" are gendered female, and the uniformed warriors go off to "protect her" whilst simultaneously raping the "others"? get a fucking clue.
there is no such thing as "America" bar the corporate papers imagined and used to pre-occupy minds, to get the uni-formed to fight/kill/steal/destroy.
find out who that's on behalf of - hint: it's not you.
thanks for your post. breeze of fresh air on this board.
Precisely. When EVERYONE in power all over the world is trying to fuck you over, and you have no friends, the "enemy of my enemy" shit ceases to work.
I demand attribution for coining the term "freedumb" in its current context as well. I also demand to be recognized for opining "poke her" and not "chest" or "check her" (out! Yaaw!)
I mean seriously "wherever you go...that's where you are."
Move along...
How about "When my enemy is trying to fuck up one of my other enemies, I eat popcorn." Does that still apply?