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Putin Signs New Military Doctrine: Names NATO, US As Main Foreign Threat; Test Fires New ICBM

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Last week, after the unanimous passage of the Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014 in Congress, which made legal the provision of US "lethal aid" to Kiev and which Russia blasted as an act of aggression and promised that it would merely accelerate the deterioration of relations between Russia and the west, we wrote that "World Awaits Russian Response As Obama Makes "Lethal Aid" To Ukraine Legal." We didn't have long to wait: one short hour ago, Putin adopted an updated version of its military doctrine, which "reflects the emergence of new threats against its national security" and which names both the NATO military buildup on Russia's borders, as well as the US and the destabilized situation in some regions (read Ukraine) as the main foreign threats to Russian security. The doctrine update also, for the first time, put protection of Russian national interest in the Arctic (read oil and nat gas) among the key priorities for Russia's armed forces.

In other words, Putin is not only not backing down, but has once again explicitly warned NATO that any western action, either in Ukraine or elsewhere, will have a proportional response.

Among the highlights of the new doctrine:

  • Russia's military doctrine names NATO military buildup, destabilized situation in some regions among main external threats to security
  • Russia's new military doctrine puts protection of national interests in Arctic among priorities for Armed Forces for the first time
  • Territorial claims to Russia and its allies, intervening in domestic policy main military threats
  • Likelihood of large-scale war against Russia decreased, but some security threats continue to grow
  • Anti-missile shields, 'global strike' concept, plans of placing weapons in space are external military threats to Russia
  • Attempts to destabilize situation in Russia, terrorist activities are country's main internal threats

More from RT:

The new doctrine was approved on Friday by President Vladimir Putin. Its core remains unchanged from the previous version. The Russian military remains a defensive tool which the country pledges to use only as a last resort. Also unchanged are the principles of the use of nuclear weapons which Russia adheres to. Their primary goal is to deter potential enemies from attacking Russia, but it would use them to protect itself from a military attack – either nuclear or conventional – threatening its existence.

 

The new sections of the doctrine outline the threat Russia sees in NATO’s expansion and military buildup and the fact that the alliance is taking upon itself “global functions realized with violation of international law.” The doctrine lists among major foreign military threats “the creation and deployment of global strategic antiballistic missile systems that undermines the established global stability and balance of power in nuclear missile capabilities, the implementation of the ‘prompt strike’ concept, intent to deploy weapons in space and deployment of strategic conventional precision weapons.”

 

Another new point in the doctrine is that one of the Russian military’s goals is to protect national interests in the Arctic region.

 

The document also points to the threat of destabilization countries bordering Russia or its allies and deployment of foreign troops such nations as a threat to national security.

There was a token segment focusing on domestic threats to peace and stability:

Domestically, Russia faces threats of “actions aimed at violent change of the Russian constitutional order, destabilization of the political and social environment, disorganization of the functioning of governmental bodies, crucial civilian and military facilities and informational infrastructure of Russia,” the doctrine says. Moscow sees international cooperation with countries sharing its effort to increase security, particularly members of BRICS, the OSCE, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and others as the key to preventing military conflicts, the doctrine states.

But the gist of the message was clearly focused on external developments because while the doctrine explicitly stated that "Prevention of nuclear war and any other type of conflict core to Russia's military policies" and that "Moscow reserves right to use nuclear weapons if Moscow, its allies are under nuclear or non-nuclear attack", just a few hours prior to the doctrine announcement, Russia’s intercontinental ballistic missile RS-24 Yars was test fired from the Plesetsk military cosmodrome in the country’s northwest, Russian Defense Ministry’s spokesman for the Strategic Missile Forces (RVSN) Colonel Igor Yegorov told TASS on Friday.

The missile’s dummy warheads with given accuracy hit a target at the Kura range in Kamchatka in the Russian Far East.

 

“On December 26, 2014 at 11:02 am, Moscow time, the solid-propellant RS-24 Yars mobile ground ICBM with a multiple warhead was test fired from the Plesetsk state test cosmodrome by a combined combat crew of the RVSN and Aerospace Defense Forces,” the official said.

Clear enough. Then again, now that Ukraine's gold has been pillaged and the country's economy in freefall, it wouldn't be at all surprising if Kiev's "allies" let the nation fend for itself and push it right back into the hands of Russia. After all, the plunging oil prices are causing enough hurt to the Kremlin where events in Ukraine are now largely irrelevant.

 

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Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:08 | 5592775 So Close
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Does anyone else think the Gap between Putin and Kim Jung-un is narrowing?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:20 | 5592809 Winston Churchill
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Obozo and Kim Jung-un maybe,

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:26 | 5592835 Latina Lover
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Putin is not bluffing, especially with China at his back. 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:30 | 5592845 Keyser
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That's the scary part... Barry, Valerie and company are playing politics with the banksters and Vlad is warming up the ICBM's... 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:36 | 5592870 Looney
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Speaking of China-Russia alliance…

First, a few days ago a Sino-Russian Consortium started construction of the Grand Canal of Nicaragua. How long will it take for Nuland to start stirring her color-revolution-brew in Nicaragua?

Second, there has been some giggling on Tee-Vee about North Korea’s ‘Lil Kim being invited to Moscow in May 2015, but what’s NOT being said is that South Korea’s President Park Geun-hye is also invited there at the same time. The Two-Koreas-gas-pipeline desperately needed by both should be a big enough carrot for both to sit at the same table with Putin.

Looney

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:40 | 5592880 Latina Lover
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Many question Chinas committments to Russia, but they are based in naked self interest. The USSA navy can block energy supplies to China, as done to Japan pre WW2.

But he USSA cannot stop the overland flow of energy between Russia and China, freeing China from the USSA energy death grip.  This infuriates the bankster/MIC hence their war against Russia.  China knows they are next, if Russia is allowed to fall. Given how many times the Europeans have screwed China, they will never again make the mistake of trusting the western devils

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:47 | 5592914 Winston Churchill
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Many miss that vital point.The alliance neutralizes the USN, the most important leg of

the MIC.

Most of the reason for the Afghan folly was to stop China getting oil overland by

pipeline.Another couple of $tn ,and much blood pissed against the wall.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:58 | 5592934 Son of Captain Nemo
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Most of the reason for the Afghan folly was to stop China getting oil overland by pipeline

Excellent point WC and one very few are willing to talk about or even know about when we made official the "war on terror"

One has to wonder now if keeping friends close but enemies closer by giving the U.S. access and routes through it's territory as a means for "plenty of rope to hang itself" in hindsight was such a good idea given where we are now -but I think it's always been a question of reasoned timing and that Russia wasn't ready to checkmate the checker players in D.C. all those years ago!

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:18 | 5592989 General Decline
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Damn! Me and my two boys were planning a trip to Russia in a few years after they graduate from high school. Fascinated by that country. Red Square, Chernobyl, Trans Siberian Railway....Oh well. Branson, Misourri - here we come!

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:21 | 5593025 karutzar
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Chernobyl is in Ukraine, not Russia.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:44 | 5593117 strannick
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America supports medieval kingdoms like Saudi Arabia while destroying nations around the world to support its tyranny.

Liberty is blasphemy, when uttered by a nation as hypocritical as America.

America ruins the world to rule it.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:14 | 5593261 noben
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America's rulers ruin it and the world, to rule them all.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:39 | 5593351 shouldvekilledthem
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The american public is the only culprit. They let the psychopats rule and even fund their operations.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:05 | 5594067 Bingo Hammer
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Does a herd of cattle let a rancher rule them by choice or is complete domestication bred into them and maintained by both subtle and overt brutality?

 

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:25 | 5595115 Anusocracy
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You go with what you think promotes your survival -

until it doesn't.

Then it's too late.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 17:10 | 5594250 post turtle saver
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... and it took Russians to fuck it up... kind of like now

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:22 | 5595125 Anusocracy
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Not nearly as bad as the US built reactors in Fukushima.

Accidents happen all over, asshole.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:28 | 5593051 Son of Captain Nemo
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Oh well. Branson, Misourri - here we come!...

With complementary valet parking for the "Biggest Show" you'll ever see in Branson by those Russians should your Eastern European holiday get cancelled courtesy of your government that brought you that "war on terror"!


Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:28 | 5593057 Volkodav
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This site might interest you:

http://windowstorussia.com/

American married Russian Lady, lives near Moscow.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:30 | 5593313 JAFAH
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Reading Ames exile archives is much more interesting and entertaining. Lots of stuff thats still relevant. Much of it is behind a paywall. I was browsing some of it today and found a few nuggets...

Putin may not have redistributed the stolen property; but at least he made some grotesquely arrogant elitists cry. And that's more than most presidents have ever done.

The fact is, the free press under Putin really has been destroyed, to the extent that the oligarchical press was "free." One has to remember that on some tangential, accidental level, freedom of speech and democratic values really were victims of this grotesque battle between vile elites. But since this freedom only served a tiny elite, it hasn't been missed as much as it should have.

The second observation holds true for most of the world, the "free press" only serves to to push the elites agenda. Of course others are free to tell a different view from the MSM, but they are mostly ignored, like ZH.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:09 | 5593468 silvermail
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@ Volkodav

OIL PRICES bring down for the sake of DOLLAR

http://investcafe.ru/blogs/mbcy/posts/48512

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:08 | 5594077 stilletto
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With the rouble low I'm going to visit Russia next year. Got to be the best value holiday destination for 2015. Hope it stays calm enough to visit Crimea as well. And after all the damage done to the innocent civilians living there through western sanctions, its only right that we go to Russia to spend our holiday cash and help them out. Vote with your feet, holiday in Russia in 2015!

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 17:05 | 5594240 Parrotile
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If your visiting - St Petersburg is a MUST go to location. "The Venice of the North" gives you a clue - and the period architecture is truly spectacular. A trip on the Trans-Siberian Railway is another "must do" - one of the World's great railway journeys - along with an overland 4WD trip to Siberia - "just to say yo've been there, seen it, and done it!" (A little like "doing the Nullabor" here in Australia - althouogh I'd safely wager that the Nullabor trip is far safer, especially seeing as its a very busy overland freight route!! :-D )

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:06 | 5592960 NoDecaf
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That's why I love the ZH comments as much as the articles, to pick up those details that I might have missed otherwise.

 

edit - I didn't "get it", Putin reaching out to NK, and I didn't know that South Korea was invited to Moscow also.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:33 | 5593074 Fractal Parasite
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Here Nikolai Starikov explains how activists like Greenpeace are utilized to disrupt industrial competitors and how Russia has established the world's first Arctic paratrooper unit to secure its energy assets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA5ZauDMceg&t=3m41s

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 17:08 | 5594245 breadonwaters
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I love it!  Kissinger and Nixon supposedly saw a way of splitting of China from the Soviet axis, and so Kissinger goes to Beijeng....and "normalization' leads to ;Favored Nation .......and the US industrial might is siphoned off to the low wages of China....40 years later, and the US forces Russia and China to organize for their own best interests ...against the US!

 

You couldn't make this stuff up.

 

Its a big club, and we aren't in it.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:23 | 5594495 IronForge
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That used to be the case regarding the Fleet being nearly Omnipotent, LL; but now the situation has changed.

1) CHN just claimed "Supremacy" over the South China Sea - marking its Territory east of SGP.  USA has Guam and PHI ; but I "think" CHN's going to build more Island/Atoll Bases - so close to the Mainland. (Check)

2) IND just became more Trade&MIC Friendly w/ RUS and CHN.  I don't think the USN can take on IND anymore.  IIRC, TEAM_USA+GBR backed off from a confrontation with TEAM_IND+RUS during an INDvsPAK Smackdown some years ago. 

There's no fracking way TEAM_GBR+USA+AUS+KOR can overcome TEAM_IND+RUS+CHN around the Eurasian Subcontinent.  The Five-Eyes will be trapped by Chokepoints East and West; and TEAMS_RUS and CHN can fly their Bombers over there in a jiff.  

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:07 | 5592967 fuu
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They've already agreed to the pipeline. The railway is being connected now. There have already been test shipments of coal along the rail line. It's pretty close to being in full swing. They announced the test shipments days before the hack attack on Sony was "revealed".

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 15:55 | 5594037 kchrisc
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"Second, there has been some giggling on Tee-Vee about North Korea’s ‘Lil Kim being invited to Moscow in May 2015, but what’s NOT being said is that South Korea’s President Park Geun-hye is also invited there at the same time."

More evidence that what they don't say is as important, maybe more so, than what they do say.

The banksters need to repay us.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:39 | 5592873 SafelyGraze
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what mister putin is not appreciating is that in the us, people are one hundred percent supportive of their president and his policies regarding lethal aid and so forth, whether it be in syria or crimea or any other place-name that ends in a vowel.

this is a big difference compared to the russian people: they don't support putin at all and they barely even know where crimea or ukraine is located on a map

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:42 | 5592900 Keyser
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I want some of whatever it is that you're smoking, because it must be the good shit... 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:18 | 5593013 SafelyGraze
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tough crowd today

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:37 | 5593088 ross81
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sarcasm and text dont blend too good

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:12 | 5593481 BobPaulson
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Actually I prefer the subtlety of un-labelled sarcasm. At least it requires some reflection to understand it.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:01 | 5593199 Winston Churchill
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Too dry maybe.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:07 | 5593228 knukles
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I haven't had anything to drink today, but I'll bet that doesn't excuse me ....

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:39 | 5593350 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The sarcastic dead giveaway for Americans:

in the us, people are one hundred percent supportive of their president

Too funny in any situation.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 20:54 | 5594259 Parrotile
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Sarcastic? Seeing as the EBT / Misc. Handout crowd are DEPENDENT on their "President", don't be so sure. Add in the MIC and all their hangers - on and the "support base" becomes ever wider.

If "The President" says "We" must go to war (notice the "Royal We") - the majority in the USSA WILL support him / her / it. All "he" has got to do is say -

 

"We are being threatened by a foreign power, and fighting is the PATRIOTIC way to deal with this".

 

Worked for the Third Reich - it'll work for your figurehead-of-State just as well.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 17:17 | 5594267 Luckhasit
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It doesn't.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:09 | 5593234 Volkodav
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better than those try be funny, who are not...

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:40 | 5593364 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The sarcastic dead giveaway for Russians:

the russian people: they don't support putin at all and they barely even know where crimea or ukraine is located on a map

Makes for good laughing in real.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:04 | 5593453 where_is the_nuke
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I gave you an upvote.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:36 | 5593089 Ayreos
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That is clearly fine sarcasm.... i hope?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:01 | 5592947 BillyPilgrim
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Hence the 83% approval rating

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:07 | 5592970 fuu
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Best subtle sarcasm of the day so far.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:31 | 5593311 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The fish are practically jumping into the boat.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:35 | 5593082 will ling
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knock off the crack.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:53 | 5593169 swmnguy
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SG: It's a holiday crowd today.   Not nearly as bad as yesterday.  The ZH audience on major holidays, especially when there's no football on TV, is mostly Freepers.  Unless you copy/paste cheerleading from a very short list of partisan memes, people don't just not get what you're saying, they get very hostile very quickly.

It might be Monday before most of the more thoughtful regulars are back online.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:07 | 5593232 knukles
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Oh thanks.  Just when I was planning to holiday here over the weekend.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:29 | 5593305 DeadFred
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Thoughtful regulars he said. How can anyone who lives on the left coast claim to be thoughtful?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:44 | 5593379 swmnguy
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Well now, look.  All I had to do was call everybody Freepers, and you all come out of the woodwork, all of you whose comments I look forward to seeing each time I log in.

Where the hell were you yesterday?  Oh, sure, spending time with family, like soon-to-be-disgraced politicians.  My kids are teenagers now.  They were ignoring my by 9:30 AM CST, so I logged on to the Hedge, only to find mouth-breathers, racists and violent fantasists.  Or, as I call them for short, Freepers.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:07 | 5593459 Buckaroo Banzai
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Yes, we're all horrible. Can't imagine why you'd want to hang around among us. Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:46 | 5593395 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

How can anyone who lives on the left coast claim to be thoughtful?

Wait, don't you mean regular?

 

You know, special snowflakes and all that...

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:15 | 5593256 EffingHell
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SafelyGraze, when I read your comment a few words sprang into my mind. I was thinking "thick" and "short plankx2". Your take of the situation is rather bizarre. 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:34 | 5593330 JAFAH
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MUST.... REMEMBER...SARC....TAG...MUST....REMEMBER....SARC....TAG...MUST...REM...DERP

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 15:21 | 5593941 asiafinancenews
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Forgot the "/sarc" tag.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:40 | 5592876 Latina Lover
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If the Chinese and Russian's are serious about building a canal in Nicaragua, it will happen.  There will be no color revolution by the USSA; the Nicaraguan government will make the organizers disappear. 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:46 | 5592911 Keyser
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China is already firmly entrenched in Central / South America via cash infusions to economies, which has bought allegiance... They learned a long time ago it's easier to buy allies than to beat them into submission... Something the US has never understood... The US just throws money at countries with zero expectation of ROI... The Chinese are not so foolish... 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:52 | 5592927 ncdirtdigger
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China will learn, just as the US had, that no amount is ever enough to buy loyalty.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:19 | 5593016 IndyPat
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What you mean is that money won't ultimately buy you denial.
It will rent it for a while, though.
I think the slip in loyalty comes on the US end.

Don't take my word for it, though.

Saddam would tell you all about it, if he hadn't got dead. So would Bin Laden....
So would a whole list of leaders that took the money, but in the end...got the high hard one,

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:19 | 5593019 SoDamnMad
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yes ncdirtdigger  In Nicaragua their stealing the land, going to contaminate the largest fresh water lake in the hemisphere and haven't even completed the environmentl impact study.  Gonna make the natives very unhappy. Where is Ollie North when you need him.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:43 | 5593123 paddyirishman
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ahem you hasbara/cia troll it was american chemical companies that polluted that lake, the Russians/Chinese are only building a  canal ya dumb twat

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:29 | 5593307 Keyser
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30,000 displaced farmers is a small price to pay for the GDP bump Nicaragua is going to receive from the canal... The income from canal traffic and the jobs created will give the country a much needed boost... Just look at Panama... 

The current protests in-country are being attributed to external provocateurs...  Imagine that....

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:13 | 5593727 Realname
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Not to worry, the US has military advisers in Nicaragua hunting down the dreaded Al Ciada in Nicaragua.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:29 | 5593310 DeadFred
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It's about flow not stock

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 15:38 | 5593996 Consuelo
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In simple terms, it's a gaggle of coons vs. the mind of Putin and China.   The only 'saving grace' for the Out House being, that the Tribe is calling the shots here -  from well above the Savior's pay grade.   Such is the Wolfowitz doctrine, but even such arrogance may have indeed met its match.   We shall see.

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 17:43 | 5594333 Parrotile
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> That's the scary part... Barry, Valerie and company are playing politics with the banksters and Vlad is warming up the ICBM's... 

The interesting aspect of this is that "The West" has been very aware of the new Russian capability for a while - http://aviationweek.com/awin/russia-develops-multiple-nuclear-systems (dated November 2013), and their formidable Iskander system is fully nuclear-capable should the need arise . . . .

Interesting summary of what's new for their Armed Forces - http://defence.pk/threads/top-10-future-weapons-of-russia.128037/ (December 2011). Seems Russia has learned their lessons of NOT letting defence lag beind the "Peaceful West" the hard way.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:36 | 5592874 So Close
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China is at Russia's back only as long as it benefits China.  Not a second longer.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:45 | 5592907 JustUsChickensHere
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True - but they will have symbiotic mutual interests for some decades to come.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:41 | 5593368 JAFAH
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USA is at (insert USA business intrest country i.e Smedly Butler) 's back only as long as it benefits USA.  Not a second longer.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:53 | 5593420 Omen IV
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9 time zones, 5,000 mile border  and $100 Trillion in undeveloped resources in Russia = 100 years ++++ relationship

 

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:17 | 5593508 BobPaulson
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Not like the trustworthy honest pure countries from the Axis of Good who help bring freedom to so many countries, even when there is no self interest.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:18 | 5593014 drendebe10
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Another "In your face" to the fudgepacker in chief tiddly winks player from the chess master 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 17:08 | 5594243 post turtle saver
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having China "at your back" reminds me of that scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark...

"Asps... very dangerous... you go first."

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:29 | 5592842 Keyser
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Where is Barry Goldwater when you really need him?  He would suggest lobbing a few nukes at those pesky Ruskies... 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:33 | 5592859 Volkodav
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NO  Goldwater was reasonable man.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:52 | 5592919 Keyser
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Perhaps you weren't around in 1964 when Barry made his famous speech in St Louis... I was...

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/look-back/a-look-back-barry-gol...

I obviously left out the /sarc tag, but you guys can't be that gullible... 

 

Goldwater, a senator from Arizona, was running far behind Texas-born President Lyndon B. Johnson. Goldwater inspired fierce devotion from the GOP’s conservative wing, but flip comments such as his joke about “lobbing” a nuke into the Kremlin men’s room gave the Democrats plenty of powder.


Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:21 | 5592974 Volkodav
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Goldwater

Johnson

 

I was somewhere then, but did read that after.

Seems a some petty on your part considering where US found themselves

He was good man....especially compared to  bloody Lyndon Johnson

 

 

 

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:41 | 5593312 Keyser
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It was a joke, much like Barry was attempting... It appears you and at least 26 others have no sense of humor -or- can't read... 

 

Let's keep this simple... Did Barry Goldwater make the above statement or not? 

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:20 | 5592811 SoilMyselfRotten
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Oh my this is moving quickly

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 17:56 | 5594362 Parrotile
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Obama talks ( or rather, "reads pre-prepared script - no deviation allowed"), Russia acts . . . .

Their High Command WILL have explored many development scenarios, and they WILL have prepared contingency plans for all such developments.

Wonder how long the American / EU hoi polloi will take to realise that a) Russia will NOT back down this time, and b) maybe it's time to quit the couch, and consider serious "persuasion" tactics where your Politicians are concerned?  It may yet boil down to "who would you prefer to die? Your "leaders" (who created this mess) or your Families??

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:23 | 5592817 NoDecaf
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Why don't you scurry down to the movies and clap like a circus animal at "The interview"?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:49 | 5593378 noben
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Yes, that contrived hack has indeed rolled into a circus act... to distract the Media and the rabble from the pipeline and rail deal for north and south Korea.

It also seeks to embarrass Kim into provoking him into doing something foolish. Slander and Provocation is the Globalist way.

Russia and China need to make it clear to Kim, that revenge is a dish best served... by undermining the foundation of the foundation of the Dollar.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:25 | 5592827 Coldcall
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Probably wrong blog to ask that question as this one is inhabited by angry Putin fanbois.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:04 | 5592956 Tjeff1
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Yes the Zerohedge of late has lost its Libratarian roots, and is just populated by Putineskas that love "the State", as long as its Putin's.

 

It is a shame.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:33 | 5593075 NoDecaf
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Um no...

The greatest threat to our liberty is from the federal reserve, wall street crooks and corrupt politicians. China and Russia just happen to be resisting them as well.

Russia and China haven't overthrown the Quebec govt...They are not here, but 'we' are there, fucking around in their neighborhood.

You think you can slap a label on libertarians? Fuck off with your capital "L".

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:42 | 5593119 Fractal Parasite
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Here, indeed, is 100% proof from December 2014 that yet another ‘color revolution’, by the usual template is being prepared in Moscow. The Maidan leaders in Moscow are attempting to conduct a lecture with a videolink to their Kiev counterparts in order to learn their role in the coup d´état.

Police entered the room and politely detained the participants, along with some pro-sovereignty activists outside. All 25 detainees were later released. The lecture was entitled “Maidan – organizing the freedom zone. Experience of resistance.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1N5gDKNok8

The current US ambassador in Moscow is John Tefft, who previously served in Georgia and Ukraine, which, coincidentally, also went through ‘color revolutions’.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:54 | 5593175 Tjeff1
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"""The greatest threat to our liberty is from the federal reserve, wall street crooks and corrupt politicians. China and Russia just happen to be resisting them as well."""

I agree with you on this, and am rooting for Putin, and the BRICS to take this down.  Still look at Putin as a Statist though.

 

""""Russia and China haven't overthrown the Quebec govt...They are not here, but 'we' are there, fucking around in their neighborhood.""""

Agree, but that is besides the point, that Zerohedgers seem to still want to get butt phukked by Putin.

 

"""You think you can slap a label on libertarians? Fuck off with your capital "L"."""

oh -- ok

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:23 | 5593290 NoDecaf
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It's exactly the point.

An external force, or forces, are bringing this monoply game to an end.

If it were a cluster of asteroids heading directly for each bank branch, you would see a whole lot of "Jesus-oids" or people talking about Stars Wars and the force around here.

It just happens to be Russia and China stepping up to take out our trash for us. What will happen after the great reset, remains to be seen.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:51 | 5593410 JAFAH
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It seems that the majority of ZH's are not Putin fanbois, rather they would like the USA NGO color revolution gang to retreat and let the world do business without paying tribute to Wall Street/The City in every transaction.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:49 | 5593160 Counterpunch
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whereas you are rooting for the Anglo-American-Zionist Banking and Corporate Empire?

You see, that makes you the cunt, Mr. Troll.

 

Don't you get that, yet?

 

Go back to Drudge.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:32 | 5592828 cowdiddly
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No, Kim talks smack, I don't think Putin does or he never has much before. He's trying to tell those dumbasses in D.C. something and they are to stupid to hear it. He's getting tired and fed up with their shit.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:33 | 5592862 Tjeff1
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Evidently jailing political oponents and dissidents is not oppressive at all, as long as you do it while standing up to the western banksters.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:38 | 5592879 cowdiddly
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Yes, Guantanmo is still open for business. Next question.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:42 | 5592901 Tjeff1
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Don't state the obvious.  Of course US is oppressive, corrupt and hiddeous.  But some how that fact makes Putin not an oppressive leader?  No strawmen please. 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:38 | 5592888 Sturm und Drang
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Oh, the irony.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:59 | 5592939 Tjeff1
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Don’t get me wrong, I love Putin for what he does.  He is the only one that does stand up to the more corrupt west.  I am rooting for him to win. 

But as a Libertarian borderline Anarchist, I am not duped by his true nature either.  He IS oppressive and will probably be more so if the Russian economy falters.  I am not a statist as most here are. -- As long as it is a Putin state and is Putin's state bureaucracy and overlorded by Putin.  No overlords for me, Putin or Western

 

I am not so easily duped by the rhetoric and "nostalgia" that is everything Putin.

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:23 | 5593036 TuPhat
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Most ZHers are not statists.  Try reading and understanding the comments before you make negative remarks.  Just being negative on everything does not make you better than the rest of us.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:38 | 5593102 Tjeff1
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""""Most ZHers are not statists.""""

Sorry Liberty loving people would not stand for jailing dissidents, strong arming the press, capital controls, and the oligarchical hierarchy that Putin has maintained in Russia.  But when I point these issues out (while praising Russia for standing up to the more corrupt Western counterparts) I get down votes.  Hence the conclusion that the posters here are OK with Putin's oppressive nature.... Therefore, statists.  Just a logical conclusion.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:49 | 5593157 Chupacabra-322
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"Sorry Liberty loving people would not stand for jailing dissidents, strong arming the press, capital controls, and the oligarchical hierarchy..."

Well, I'll be God Dammed. For a second there I thought you were describing the Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:57 | 5593182 Tjeff1
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"""Well, I'll be God Dammed. For a second there I thought you were describing the Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC."""

Yes, you are right, but that does not change my arguement does it? 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:51 | 5593167 Uncle Remus
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."Just a logical conclusion" for an idealistic twit.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:58 | 5593188 Tjeff1
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Very good point.  I will now concede.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:19 | 5593281 Uncle Remus
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This is good. Now perhaps you'll consider the reality of the usurious cancer of "western bankers" and the attendant genocidal psychopathy required for said behavior. For now we shan't speak of the worthless traitorous fucks that condone and enable it. And against this you would fault Putin preempting the very tools they use to undermine a country?

I don't see a greater good, but I do see an exponentially lesser evil.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:41 | 5593360 Tjeff1
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"""And against this you would fault Putin preempting the very tools they use to undermine a country?"""

 

No I would like to see Putin fight against the corrupt, genocidal, psycho west while not being currupt and psycho himself. 

He does not need to "control the media", he does not need to jail political disodents, and Russia would be able to fight the west much better if the means of production were not systematically centrallized and so inefficient. 

The west will not be overthrown by Russia taking Crimea, or bothering with East Ukraine.  He should stick to acquiring gold, locating the means of production in Russia, setting up bilateral trades with all countries by excluding the dollar and alternatives to Swift.  Eventially moving to a gold backed Ruble or mandating a gold backed currency or gold itself for gas and oil. 

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:51 | 5593416 Uncle Remus
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Again with the useless idealistic talkings.

 

In the mean time, while Putin is riding around on a white horse, bare-chested I'd surmise, being the moral upstanding statesman and leader you envision him to be in your liberty-loving wet-dreams, the sniveling traitorous cowards peck away at the very soul of Russia.

He should "stick to acquiring gold, locating the means of production in Russia, setting up bilateral trades with all countries by excluding the dollar and alternatives to Swift" whilst simultaneously being merciless with the motherfuckers who would enslave mother Russia mercilessly and without remorse.

This is the reality of the world we are all trapped in/on. The bottleneck beckons.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:03 | 5593688 lakecity55
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Ever since I joined, this site has leaned Libertarian.

Just my humble opinion.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 15:41 | 5594000 Uncle Remus
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Good thing correlation does not imply causation.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 15:53 | 5594029 Counterpunch
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Russia under Putin is more free and prosperous than it was before him.

The opposite can be said for both Bush and Obama.

 

The Whys Behind the Ukraine Crisis | Global Research

 

 

Why Neocons Seek to Destabilize Russia | Counter ...
Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:38 | 5593093 shovelhead
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Yeah, you're easily duped by your own self bias.

You assume because we hate everything Obama does that we automatically approve of everything Putin does.

Not exemplar of a wide ranging thought process.

It's a bare-knuckle fight by two guys you wouldn't let your daughter marry.

Not so hard to figure out, eh?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:46 | 5593137 Tjeff1
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"""You assume because we hate everything Obama does that we automatically approve of everything Putin does."""

 

I am not assuming, most of the posts that point out the oppressiveness of Putin get down voted.  He is not a "good guy" 

 

Although I concede I would "rather" have putin over Obama and most of the American politicians, I still see him as oppressive to the Russian public. 

 

He has certainly dropped the ball in Russia by not imposing the reforms that would have been needed to make the Russian economy more robust by incentivizing offshore production of imported goods to relocate in Russia. 

 

I look at Putin as just another Corrupt politician, and by not means a messiah as some here seem to imply.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:22 | 5593291 Uncle Remus
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So, you're siding with the anit-Putin propaganda trolls.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:29 | 5593309 Tjeff1
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No, just pointing out that Putin's state is corrupt and oppressive as well.  Therefore, I can not jump on the Putin messeih bandwagon that everybody here seems to have done. 

Do you think that a regeme that jails political dissidents, has a stranglehold on the press, and rules as a corrupt oligarchy that has centralized power is worth such praise here on a site that has libritarian roots?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:36 | 5593336 Uncle Remus
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Perhaps, but Putin is not trying to corrupt and oppress the rest of the fucking world now is he? I say Russian corruption and oppression for Russians and leave that faggotty American/Euro-Trash/ZWO stuff for the rest.

Booyah.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:20 | 5593514 lakecity55
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Putin is certainly not pushing Race War like our Bolsheviks, Bath House, Al, and MaoBlasio...

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:02 | 5593195 mog
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'He IS oppressive and will probably be more so if the Russian economy falters'

Nuts.

So you think he should put his finger in his ear and sing la la la whilst the Nulands of this world pour billions in to undermine his state, authority and people.

I think not.

Look the other way whilst his enemies buy pressitutes and traitors, greedy officials and even would be assassins.

Whilst Jewish oligarchs plunder his country.

A la Ukraine.

Keep building the nukes Vladimir. I'm right on your side.

Edgar Cayce certainly had it right.



Fri, 12/26/2014 - 15:19 | 5593934 Counterpunch
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I note that AP and the rest of the neocon trollerati aren't talking much about repression of democracy and free speech in the US, Israel, or UK.

UK: Police have arrested a 19-year-old man over an "offensive" tweet

Must be an oversight, eh?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:35 | 5592868 messystateofaffairs
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Nope.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:42 | 5592894 junction
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Welcome to World War Three, courtesy of the CIA's Manchurian Candidate, our Saudi slave masters and the New World Order.  That RS-24 Yars mobile ground ICBM with a multiple warheads is far superior to any mobile ICBM in the U.S. land based arsenal.  Mean cokehead Obummer is good only at ordering the murders of Americans who know too much, such as Navy SEALs.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:11 | 5592986 EatYourCornTake...
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Zerohedge fan favorite and glorious revolutionary Putin declares "Attempts to destabilize situation in Russia, terrorist activities are country's main internal threats"

aka another move to seal up dictatorship and tyranny over the Russian people. Would love to see all the bitchers and whiners here if their life saving devalued 300% in a matter of a month. All these stories about "USSA" hyperinflation and government overreaching. Keep whining pussies and enjoy the show from your comfort in the West.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:15 | 5592995 Volkodav
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complete bs   get lost goat

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:33 | 5593331 NoDecaf
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hey corn, you should change that American flag to a picture of Mr. Yellin's hairy cock.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:43 | 5593129 Counterpunch
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The leader most like Kim Jong Un is Netanyahu if we are talking nuclear threat to the US, and regular pronouncements of absolute absurdities, and engaging in hostilities while claiming to be a victim.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 17:31 | 5594301 roadhazard
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heh, thats what I was thinking. Iran likes to fire off a cloud of missiles when they are pissed too.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:10 | 5592779 reader2010
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The USA is the PAPER TIGER,  according to Mao. 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:22 | 5592814 negative rates
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And if you like your paper tigers ______, you can keep your paper tigers_____.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:44 | 5593131 Fractal Parasite
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What Obama didn't say:

"If you like your Putin / Assad / Qaddafi, you can keep him".

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:12 | 5592785 JulienFR
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someone has balls

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:30 | 5592850 Keyser
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Moochie?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 11:11 | 5592979 GOSPLAN HERO
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Moochelle the Wookie?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:13 | 5592788 DaveyJones
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we'll meet again, don't know where don't know when.........

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:32 | 5592856 Keyser
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Must.....Protect......Our......Purity.....Of.....Essense......

Capt Jack Ripper

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:20 | 5594106 SilverRhino
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That would be Brigadier Ripper.  ;)

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:25 | 5593300 Uncle Remus
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You know, Miss Vickie (We overthrew some folks) Nuland could be the daisy girl in LBJ's '64 ad.

Good God, the insidiousness of it all.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:46 | 5593382 Seize Mars
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uncle remus

Oh I thought you meant this Miss Vicky:

http://www.weht.net/Miss_Vicky.html#.VJ2QZ_86PA

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:57 | 5593429 Uncle Remus
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That gold-digging trollop. Ahem, not but I knew that phrasing would catch a reader or two.

Regarding the "Cookie Monster" variety of Vickie, she was (per that CIA front site) born in 1961 (maybe 1960 - I forget now). That ad was likely made in 1964, so the little girl would be about 3ish. Just about the right age for the girl in the ad.

Yeah it's stretch, but what the fuck isn't anymore. Take the POTUS for example, please.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 09:45 | 5595879 Seize Mars
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkWAhuXtalw

This girl is too sweet to be a rabid America-hating animal. Or so I hope.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:13 | 5592792 Seize Mars
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Gee whiz it's almost as if powerful people have conspired to destroy the US from within. Nah, I must be mistaken.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:35 | 5592863 Keyser
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No, you are correct... At least that's my take and why I got the fuck out of Dodge while I still could... 

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:40 | 5592893 IndyPat
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Speaking of fleeing....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/fleeing-their-countrys-civil-...

Now that all the gold is gone, the country looted and left a smoldering mess....the parasites return to their hive to regroup.

Looks like they are done.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:08 | 5593237 CuttingEdge
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They aint done yet - there's 5000 more Palestinians to displace so they can home these fuckers...

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:48 | 5593397 Seize Mars
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IndyPat +1

More lies and misdirection. It is well known that Mossad was front and center in fomenting the overthrow. Then the "victimhood meme" kicks in. Nice.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 18:04 | 5594387 Parrotile
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Maybe a reliable indication that "some folks" got an early warning of "an increase in hostilities".

(Or maybe they are the proud owners of the "gold swapped for lead" Central Bank swindle proceeds . . . . . .)

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:18 | 5592805 Beowulf55
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This business will get out of control! It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it!

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:36 | 5592869 Keyser
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There are many that believe that the human race no longer has the capcity to wage nuclear war... I'll leave it at that... 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:22 | 5592806 JustObserving
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The Nobel Prize Winner thrives on bombing medieval countries - he has bombed seven so far.  Determined opposition from an advanced military power is not a prospect that the Nobel Prize Winner enjoys.  Besides, it halts the pivot to China dead in its tracks.  It is a classic case of imperial overreach gone awry.

Merkel, the compromised politician due to NSA spying since 2002, will see Germany lose all its markets in Russia as China displaces it.  So much for mythical European growth - it just got strangled.

This political, economic and disinformation war is mutating into a military war everyday - well played, Mr Nobel Prize Winner.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:38 | 5592886 DaveyJones
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Eloquent

and sadly, this piece of peace only works with an empire hung over on its own false importance and vacuumed values 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:23 | 5593295 Counterpunch
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But but - Putin arranged for a referendum, JO - the very definition of evil and fascism.  That means he's just exactly like Hitler.  Meanwhile, while Putin inherited a country recently raped and robbed by Jewish oligarchs, he managed to play one against the other and vastly improved the country even in the face of aggressive destabilization efforts - improving the lot of the average Russian.

 

On the other hand, under Bush and Obama, the Bill of Rights has been shredded, the US killed hundreds of thousands in wars based on absolute lies and deceptions, has used torture to create evidence for the absurd 9/11 official narrative, and has essentially promised to go to war on Iran, which does not threaten the US, if Israel decides to attack it, on the false premise that Iran may one day have the capability to develop the capability to build a nuke or two...

 

All one is left to wonder is - why are there so many anti-Russian/neocon trolls? All of a sudden - that is, why bother, right?

Because people under 35 are largely rejecting the NYT/WSJ/Fox News government spoon-fed narrative about the US and Israel being the global white hats as they kill and maim and bomb and murder all over the globe without any concern for retribution.

They are worried because the absurdity of the lies, the obviousness of corporate and Jewish/Zionist control of the MSM is increasingly well-known.

 

Which means they will be coming hard against the free web and 1st amendment fairly soon.

 

For the children, of course.

 

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:20 | 5592810 loregnum
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How dare he actually look to defend the country from the U.S/Nato. Doesn't he know he should just roll over and suck some U.S dick like most countries do? Nobody should ever be able to defend themselves from bullies showing aggression towards them. If they do then they are evil. USA! USA!

This is of course assuming all of this global tension shit is legit and not just a show which I wouldn't be surprised if it is.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 10:24 | 5592822 negative rates
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We tricked some folks minds, in to kiiling themselves.

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