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Ukraine Cuts Power To Crimea Again, Halts Train Services

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There was some expectation following the loud public response following Ukraine's shut down of power to Crimea on Christmas Eve, that Kiev would treat the territory which it alleges is still part of Ukraine as, well, part of Ukraine. And sure enough, a few hours after the regionwide blackout was first reported, Ukraine restored power. Until today, when moments ago we learned that not only did Ukraine cut off electricity to Crimea earlier today, but also halted train services, moves which, according to the WSJ, could raise tensions with Russia, but which also will harden the local popluation's pro-Russian determination even further.

Crimea’s Fuel and Energy Minister Sergei Egorov told Russia’s Interfax news agency that power was cut off at 1:50 p.m. Friday without warning. He said backup diesel generators and mobile turbine power plants were supplying critical infrastructure with electricity. More from WSJ:

The power cutoff is the second this week by Ukraine, which says it has electricity shortages of its own because rebels have halted shipments of coal to its power plants. The cutoff in railway services, however, could indicate Ukraine is stepping up its pressure of the peninsula.

 

Ukraine’s state rail company Ukrzaliznytsia on Friday said it would stop passenger and cargo train services to Crimea “in order to insure the safety of passengers.” The move will affect both Ukrainian and foreign trains traveling to the peninsula, the company said. It didn’t indicate when services would resume.

More from ABC:

Ukraine's state rail company Ukrzaliznytsia has suspended passenger and cargo train services to the Black Sea peninsula of Crimea due to security concerns.

 

Ukrzaliznytsia said cargo trains would be suspended from Friday while passenger routes would gradually cease running over the weekend and on Monday.

 

The company did not say how long the suspensions would be in place or specify what the security concerns were.

 

"In order to ensure the safety of passengers ... (the railway) will cut the route of trains to Crimea off at Novooleksiyvka and Kherson," Ukrzaliznytsia said in a statement, referring to two towns on the Ukrainian mainland near Crimea.

Back to the WSJ:

 

Cutting supplies to Crimea may be a lever of influence for Kiev, since the matter has become a headache for Moscow after it annexed the territory in March. Crimea has no overland connection to Russia and has traditionally relied on a land bridge to Ukraine for essentials such as food, power and water.

Alternatively, it may simply force Russia to find an alternative solution much faster than it would have otherwise, much in the same way western financial pressure on Russia has forced the Kremlin and Beijing to accelerate their mutual cooperation not only in the field of energy infrastructure and natgas deals, but has led to China openly providing financial support to the country which is isoleted by the debt-monetizing west, if not by the BRIC countries and other non-US allies, whose combined population is well over half that of the world.

 

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Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:06 | 5593229 ebworthen
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Those neo-Nazi's in Kiev must have a lot of firewood, or not much common sense.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:08 | 5593236 CrazyCooter
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Maybe Russia will cut off the Ukie gas after this ... LOL!

Thinking ahead these Ukies ... thinking ahead ...

Regards,

Cooter

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:23 | 5593296 insanelysane
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I thought Western Europe was sanctioning Russia's ass. However, whilst watching British football today, they were displaying Gazprom adverts on the screens ringing the stadium.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:17 | 5593502 Mr.Sono
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How long can they play this game, before shtf

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:14 | 5593733 KnuckleDragger-X
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That is the big question and really it comes down to who makes a terminal mistake first....

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:19 | 5593750 fleur de lis
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The Grinch is alive and well in Nulandistan. 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 15:21 | 5593935 ziggy59
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Visa and MC no longer supporting bank cards in Crimnea
http://www.foxbusiness.com/economy-policy/2014/12/26/visa-mastercard-sto...

..i guess for all else, ther'e's Crime-x

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:31 | 5593317 sun tzu
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It's not the Ukies, but Western puppets put in power by NATO/CIA. They know the Ukies will suffer from the coming war, but they need to crack a few eggs to make their Russian omelet.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:55 | 5593658 buyingsterling
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At present Russia looks like a lifeline to sanity, a check on the rapacious west. If Russia bows we'll know the fix is truly in.

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 22:08 | 5594951 Idaho potato head
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The beatings will continue until peace is restored...

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:43 | 5593602 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Maybe Russia will cut off the Ukie gas after this

The Ukies are also buying a chunk of their electricity from Russia. Funny thing about electrical grids is that blackouts can have cascading and unpredictable consequences. Doubtful that the dim bulbs of the Kiev Yatzi Junta gave that any thought.

Thinking ahead these Ukies ... thinking ahead ...

...thinking a head... thinking a head... of cabbage, as weekly pay to families of military conscripts.

Thinking a potato, these Ukies, thinking a potato, as weekly pay to Latvian pollack online trolls.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:15 | 5593741 KnuckleDragger-X
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The free clue supply ran out so nobody has one.....

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 21:37 | 5594878 Volkodav
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small round heads equal less brains

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:11 | 5593243 IndianaJohn
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They ain't not-sees. They are US State Department employees.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:36 | 5593565 ChiangMai
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And US State Department employees = CIA = Nazis:

 

Cover Up: U.S. Agencies Used 1,000 Nazis for Cold War Spying

According to the New York Times, the CIA and other United States spy agencies hired at least 1,000 Nazis to work as Cold War spies and informants. Shockingly, according to the times, as recently as the 1990s, the government concealed ties to some Nazis still living in America...

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:22 | 5593757 KnuckleDragger-X
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No, believe me, the State Dept are special snowflakes who live in an alternate universe. I dealt with them both as military and civilian and they have no clue what the real world looks while the CIA does and just wants to bend/break the rules in their interest. The CIA will get you killed if it serves their interests but State will get you killed due to straight up stupidity.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:11 | 5593244 knukles
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And so who's poking whom in whose eye with whose sharp stick, now, huh?
Do I see another false flag type event?
Maybe even ranking right up there with the Benghazi YouTube video and supposedly Nork Sony hacking?
Nah...
Nobody'd do something that ill mannered over the Christmas Holiday now, would they?
They would!?!?!?!
Oh and who could that be?
Hah!
I got it!

The Godless terrorists!

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:11 | 5593483 noben
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The "US Regime" (a term I prefer over "America") keeps using Slander & Provocation as means to derail what would otherwise be an economic fast track to sovereign deals and natural alliances.

The Regime cannot act militarily directly, so it needs these hired hands to set the stage for them. The US needs "regime change" far more than anyone else, yet that won't happen till King Dollar is King no more.

Desperate acts of a desperate Regime. Counter-moves need to be well thought out, to avoid Unintended Consequences. I won't presume to counsel them on such moves.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 15:30 | 5593966 americanspirit
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Noben - brilliant. There is absolutely no connection between "The US Regime" and "America".

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 17:46 | 5594334 noben
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I call these Parasites & Usurpers, who pretend to govern OUR country, as the "New USSR":

The United States Socialist Regime

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:47 | 5593389 crazzziecanuck
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There have been rolling blackouts in the Ukraine for a while, but I'm sure Crimea and the east are going to go beyond their share of sacrifice.  Kiev knows that national unity doesn't mean equality of treatment (or even respect).  No matter.  The proud "Ukrainians" of Crimea will help suffer the brunt so others in the western part of the nation do not.

I honestly think Kiev genuinely believes Crimea will be returned to the Ukraine on Ukraine's terms otherwise they'd be treating Crimeans better.  

Or they could just be stupid.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:45 | 5593608 ChiangMai
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Just this week, spokespeople for Donetsk and Luhansk republics announced either that (I don't recall exactly) they were already independent of the Ukraine electric system, or would be within weeks.

Regarding Crimea, dated yesterday:

Crimean authorities exclude possibility of rolling power blackouts in the near future

...Crimea’s energy system will become fully independent from Ukraine by late 2017 thanks to a number of measures envisaged by the federal target program of Crimea’s development, [Minister of Crimean Affairs] Savelyev added...

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:32 | 5593548 Lumberjack
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How Israeli of them. 

 

Vladimir Putin threatened to hang Georgia leader 'by the balls'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3454154/Vladimir...

 

According Mr Levitte, interviewed in Le Nouvel Observateur magazine, Mr Putin exploded with rage when Mr Sarkozy warned him off toppling Georgia's democratically elected government  and its President Saakashvili.

"I am going to hang Saakashvili by the balls," he said.

"Hang him?," asked Mr Sarkozy.

"Why not?," retorted Mr Putin. "The Americans hanged Saddam Hussein."

Mr Sarkozy replied: "Yes but do you want to end up like Bush?"

Briefly lost for words, the Russian leader agreed: "Ah, you have scored a point there."

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:39 | 5593578 Counterpunch
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For the last seven years Israeli companies have prepared Georgia for the war against Russia – by arms deliveries, training of troops and the creation of elite units. Israeli media already disclosed Israel’s  involvement in the preparations of Georgia’s attack on Russia, while the war was still going on. For the first time the number one and number four weapon exporting nations in the world openly joined forces in the military invasion of a third country. “We have two Israeli ministers in our gouvernment. All questions of war and peace are decided on by Israeli Jews”, that is how Georgian President Mikheil Saaka­shvili was cited by the Israeli daily newspaper “Haaretz” on 15th August.  He referred to Minister of Defence David Kezerashvili and Minister for Territorial Integration Temur Yakobashvili. Both of them speak Hebrew fluently and apparently arranged the close military co-operation between Georgia and Israel. Largely due to arms sales Israel became the main investor in Georgian economy. - http://www.currentconcerns.ch/index.php?id=644

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 17:55 | 5594353 noben
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I don't get it... Who do Israelis hate Russia so much that they want to destroy the place that so many came from?  Isn't just "leaving" enough for them? 

I don't see people from other countries having such a murderous and sociopathic rage toward their former Homeland.  I don't see Israelis trying to destroy Germany or Austria. 

Not that it's an apt analogy, but it almost smacks of a jilted lover, of the "War of the Roses".  Except that the Russian Jews were never the "ex-lover", unless they consider themselves denied and spurned in some other way?  Or is it only their evicted Oligarchs (Ziogarchs) who feel that way?  What gives?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:31 | 5594134 Lumberjack
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Israel Court Throws Out Objections, Lets Oil Drilling Start in Syria’s Golan

 

First Major Drilling in Golan in Decades to Begin in Weeks

 

 

 

Flashback: (This is why Cheney suddenly popped up in the news...)

 

Genie Energy get oil exploration rights in Golan

http://www.rigzone.com/news/oil_gas/a/124514/Genie_Energy_Granted_Israeli_License

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_Energy

Genie Energy Ltd. is an energy company headquartered in Newark, New Jersey. It is a holding company comprising IDT Energy, a retail energy provider, and Genie Oil & Gas, which controls the company's ventures in oil shale research and development in Colorado and Israel. Genie was part of IDT Corporation. IDT spun off Genie to its shareholders on October 31, 2011, at which point Class B common stock of Genie Energy Ltd. began trading on the NYSE under the ticker symbol "GNE". [1]
Genie's founder, chairman and controlling shareholder is Howard Jonas. Claude Pupkin is the company's CEO, and Avi Goldin is its CFO. Geoffrey Rochwarger is Genie's vice chairman.
Genie previously announced a strategic advisory board whose members provide strategic direction and council. Its members include former Vice President Dick Cheney, Michael Steinhardt, Jacob Rothschild, and Rupert Murdoch.[2]

 

More here:

 

http://whoprofits.org/content/israel-grants-genie-israel-oil-and-gas-pet...

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 15:22 | 5593945 frankly scarlet
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no bout a doubt it the Kyiv nazis are not very bright but we must understand they are taking direct orders from he likes of Kerry, Nuland and McKain and act only on those orders and only when told to do so. This whole thing is an on going CIA orchestrated event with both the Russians and the west funded by the one world banking cabal.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:19 | 5594103 Amerikan Patriot
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Ukrainians, having felt the wrath of both Hitler and Stalin, preferred Hitler.

That's not much of an endorsement for Stalin, is it?  :-)

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:31 | 5594138 COSMOS
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Both were financed by Zionists bankers, they didnt have much choice.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:37 | 5594163 Counterpunch
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The Jewish Role in the Bolshevik Revolution
and Russia's Early Soviet Regime

You misunderstand - after being starved and massacred by Jewish Bolsheviks in the cheka, the Ukrainians saw the German national socialists as the enemy of their enemy.

 

Sadly for the Ukrainians, the same tribe is back - installed as PM, President, and head of parliament, and with control of much of the nations wealth and media, they do not give a single fuck about the Ukrainian people.

Neither do you.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:46 | 5594196 TheFourthStooge-ing
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You cannot take Amerikan Patridiot seriously. He is a banderatarded Ukie desperately trolling for his daily potato.

Think of him as a gnat of the ZH comment section: a minor annoyance, at best worth an occasional swat.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 21:31 | 5594862 Volkodav
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Stalin was not a Russian

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 18:01 | 5594376 Dakota Kid
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If Putin gets pissed off enough, the sparks he makes will light up the whole Ukraine.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:10 | 5593242 Chupacabra-322
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Those Criminal Fraund UNITED STATES, CORP, INC. Nazi Fascist are going to freeze their balls off.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:24 | 5593298 Bill of Rights
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See there really is a Santa Clause...

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:49 | 5593399 Counterpunch
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In Ukraine, some of the nazi fascists are Jews

http://tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/187217/borislav-bereza

 

...and no doubt mostly motivated by the well being of the Ukrainian people, as Judaism is primarily a system of universalist ethics, in which all people are equal before the Divine Principle, as can be readily gleaned by reading the Torah.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:51 | 5593412 Chupacabra-322
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Are you speaking in terms of Zionist Askenazi fake Jews?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:30 | 5593539 Counterpunch
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I don't pretend to know anything about who or what is real versus fake - I simply mean that some of the people identified as right sektor or svoboda, ultranationalists if not actual fascists, are not ethnic Ukrainians, not Orthodox or Catholic Christians, but Jewish - some with Israeli passports.

 

Ukrainians Jews are mostly pro the Kiev putsch regime, even though that means being in bed, or at least using, fascist/nazi street thugs, many of whom are actual anti-Semites.

 

Strange bedfellows.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:59 | 5593654 Volkodav
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Odessa was claimed at one time to be half "jews"or more

there is hardly such thing as ethnic Ukrainian

more was lands with tribes  

minority you might term Ukrainians have roots to center lands which was small territory

rest was Poles. Austr-Hungary, Balts, Russia and other

the old historical lived families of Ukraine nationals are strongly anti-Kiev present govt.

Ukraine has never been a sovereign nation

 

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:33 | 5593804 Counterpunch
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I don't know much at all about Ukraine, but do recognize that the US/USAID/neocon coup was not arranged for the benefit of the people, who are in a very real sense mere pawns in the Grand Chessboard.

But I wonder if there might be some kind of counter-coup in the west of Ukraine as these people figure out that they were used, and their country/land/economy is being stolen right out from under them, at the end of the day, for NATO, the IMF, and ECB...

 

Could Russia end up arming Ukrainian nationalists in the west of Ukraine against the Soros/Nuland/Feldman putsch regime?

 

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 21:27 | 5594851 Volkodav
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West of Kiev Ukraine especially far is main pollacks. It is former Polish lands.

These been brainwashed 20 year, to prepare for successful european livestyle..

Do not count on them for anything logic and rational, though they not jumping so often now

Was no hop before jump from these useful idiots.

Poles history normal on wrong side of everything.

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:37 | 5593535 COSMOS
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Who would downvote you for that?  I guess speaking the truth is not politically correct in Yiddish circles hahah

Great Link by the way.  Just goes to prove the whole Nazi movement like the communist angle was being worked by the J-Mafia banking crew.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:28 | 5593247 JustObserving
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Washington is pushing its puppet regime into deeper confrontation with Russia.  Every country that the Nobel Prize Winner has interfered in, including the seven he has bombed,  has become a failed state - and Ukraine is no different.

The chance of a major military confrontation increases every day - Happy New Year.

In coordinated moves,Visa, Mastercard suspend servicing Russian banks in Crimea.
Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:30 | 5593308 lakecity55
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"Here are your presidential plans!"
"Oh, goody! I can't wait for Hope and .... wait, Failed States?"
"That's it. Deviate and..."

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:49 | 5593404 crazzziecanuck
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Each of those states were destined to become sh*tholes no matter what Obama did.

What's illustrative is just how Obama went along with it all and doubled-down in several cases.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:13 | 5593264 Tjeff1
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Crimea got smashed by the falling Hryvnia, then switched to the Ruble at just the right time to get wacked again.  Crem da la Crem

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:08 | 5593462 TungstenBars
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Still better than being an Americunt

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:21 | 5593520 post turtle saver
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say that to the face of the Moscow shop keepers who'll only take dollars...

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:33 | 5593554 COSMOS
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You shop in Moscow much?  I guess only in the Kosher Delis they take only dollars hahaha

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:36 | 5593557 TungstenBars
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Completely irrelevent. Some Russians may be protecting their assets by using dollars since the Ruble is being attacked by Americans. No-one, anywhere besides some third world mexican suburb, would even flirt with the idea that the US is a moral place to live. It's a rather evil disintegrating hell hole. 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:33 | 5594146 roadhazard
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Yeah, those "moral" countries are a big draw.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:52 | 5594212 TungstenBars
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For those from the first world with moral standards it is an issue. I could've lived in the states and am happy I chose not to for the very reason that it is now an immoral cesspool. Very happy decision.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 18:42 | 5594462 roadhazard
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I wish more people would leave America.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 22:22 | 5594976 freak of nature
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Out of interest, which country do you live in now?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:24 | 5594114 Amerikan Patriot
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Russians are well acquainted with currency devaluations, so they'd rather have a strong dollar than a weak ruble.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:13 | 5595249 COSMOS
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http://observationsandnotes.blogspot.com/2011/04/100-year-declining-valu...

Dollar strong thinking makes a wise man a fool.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:14 | 5593265 wrs1
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Well if the electricity goes of in Crimea, then cut off the electricity in Ukraine in retaliation, that's how the world works, right?  Course if you do that, it's going to be a bit rough on Europe since the best way to cut off Ukranian electricity is to cut off the gas.  Who is writing the script for the idiots in the Ukraine to follow?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:34 | 5593325 sun tzu
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Victoria Neulander

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:05 | 5593695 ChiangMai
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Considering Ukraine is presently ruled by US/NATO, better yet  — though probably unlikely for various reasons — from:

Russia To Unleash Ultimate Black Swan Against The West

...The biggest black swan of all...if the Russians get thoroughly angry, all they have to do is call up the European governments and say, ‘We no longer sell natural gas or any other form of energy to members of NATO.'  The consequence would be the utter and total collapse of NATO.  Not even a puppet state like Germany is going to let the people freeze to death, let the factories be closed down, and let the unemployment rate hit 40 percent.  It’s just not going to happen — it would be the end of NATO.

That would set off so many black swans...

 

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 18:32 | 5594440 ebear
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By definition, a Black Swan is something you don't see coming and thus are unable to predicit.

AS for PCR, I've followed him for some time and he appears increasingly frustrated and subject to emotional, rather than logical response.  I don't think his analysis is going to be very useful in the future.

For the very reasons he outlines, Russia is not going to cut off gas to the Eurozone.  They've already sent a clear message (cancelation of South Stream and the deal with Turkey) that future supplies may not be forthcoming.  That warning alone should be sufficient to produce the desired effect over time.  The last thing Russia needs is a European collapse as it creates all sorts of problems for Russia itself.

A slow, measured response has been the Russian strategy thus far.  I see no reason to expect anything different from them.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:15 | 5593268 localizer
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No matter who you support this is disgusting, cutting power at this time of the year!

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:20 | 5593285 Demdere
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The US gov has a problem with patriots.  It needs  war to justify gulags and rounding up its internal enemies.  Ukraine is the beginning of that war.

Everyone beter get very anti-war, or our military's coup will be backed up by NSA's total surveillance state.

If you think cops are obnoxious and out-of-control now, just wait a year or so.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:21 | 5593287 Perimetr
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Newsflash: Crimea is "pro-Russia" because it IS Russia.

Cutting the land bridge only increases the chances of Russian intervention, which is the purpose of the policy.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:24 | 5593299 Oldrepublic
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also to be noted:

FAA Bans Flights: Simferopol-Dnipropetrovsk
Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:58 | 5593663 HowdyDoody
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Simferopol, Crimea flights have been banned since April 2014. Dnepropetrovsk has been added effective 29 Dec. This is dd as Dnepr is deeply inside Ukrainian held territory. Perhaps it is to ensure US flights aren't affected by a planned false-flag act?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:30 | 5593304 Tracerfan
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"Ukraine" has cut off electricity to Russia.  And Russia should reciprocate by cutting off electricity, coal and gas to "Ukraine".

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:30 | 5593315 wrs1
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Why?  Wouldn't it be smarter to figure out how to power Crimea from Russia instead?  If Russia has accepted Crimea as a state then it's their job to provide power.   This was forseeable wasn't it?  

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:45 | 5593380 Long-John-Silver
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Crimea would be cut off from it's land bridge so logistics becomes a nightmare. They will be forced to build a coal fired power plant and ship coal in via the sea or install an LNG (Liquified Natural Gas) facility to feed their own LNG Crimean power plant.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:55 | 5593432 wrs1
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But no one thought of this when they opted for being part of Russia? Didn't Russia recognize this as a problem?  So where are all these chess players now?  Somebody looks pretty stupid here and it's not the ones shutting off the powe, they might be assholes but not stupid.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:10 | 5593480 TungstenBars
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It takes more than a few months to build a power plant.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:19 | 5593499 wrs1
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Doesn't need a power plant, just power lines, how hard can that be?  Crimea is a Russian seaport and capable of importing fuel, why wouldn't there already be a power plant there?  There are Russian naval bases in Sevastopol, how are they powered?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:40 | 5593579 TungstenBars
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The kind of power lines you are talking about require a real land bridge. This isn't some street pole line we are talking about. 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:41 | 5593592 Long-John-Silver
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You can't build High Voltage Power Transmission lines under water, especially sea water. The only way to do it is building a power plant and then feeding it Coal or Natural Gas. Not many people will want an LNG Tanker in their port or the NG Storage Tanks for the Liquid to Vapour processing facility that will also be required. We here in the USA can't even get an LNG port facility to export LNG due to the hazards involved.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:03 | 5593687 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The Russians are building a bridge to Crimea across the Kerch Strait. A 12-mile bridge isn't something that is thrown together overnight. Given the Russians' very non-American habit of thinking ahead, I am guessing that it will carry not just passenger vehicle traffic, but rail traffic as well. The structure supporting the bridge will likely also be capable of supporting electrical transmission lines. A gas pipeline would not surprise me.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 21:15 | 5594813 Volkodav
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They still need multiple back up for any bridge.

 

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:31 | 5593792 wrs1
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Who said anything about putting power lines underwater which actually can be done but nevertheless, the Kerch straight is only about 60 feet at it's deepest point and so stringing power lines across that is a piece of cake.  No power plant needed, just a decent HV line across a relatively narrow and shallow straight.

 

  As to your LNG comments, there are already several LNG import facilities here in the US that are pretty much worthless and at least one of them is being converted to an export terminal, it's in Texas by the way.  

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:14 | 5594086 COSMOS
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Ships have to make it across though, need some clearance.  If they get Mariupol under control should be a relatively short stretch across the water to get to Crimea with power lines.  I am surprised they stopped short of Mariupol.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 18:37 | 5594455 ebear
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Once again, I wish people would check their facts before making broad assertions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerlines_connecting_Vancouver_Island_with...

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 18:40 | 5594458 FredFlintstone
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Posts would be down at least 80% if we do what you suggest.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 21:09 | 5594796 Volkodav
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Might be some of circuit can be under water, other cannot.

 

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:07 | 5593704 Volkodav
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useless talking.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:30 | 5596299 Counterpunch
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no, that's stupid.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:01 | 5593446 RaceToTheBottom
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I thought there was alternate roads to the peninsula that were Russian controlled.  Is there not power lines via those roads?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:46 | 5593607 Long-John-Silver
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You need to look up the definition of a peninsula.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 22:26 | 5594963 RaceToTheBottom
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You can bet if there is not one now, the Russians are building a bridge....

https://www.google.com/search?q=crimea+map&rlz=1C1RZHW_enUS583US583&espv...

 

Plus they already have submerged internet access, so they know much of the topography and could expand and build upon it and since it isn't too deep, they could build something above water...

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/08/a-new-underwater-internet-cable-direct...

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:48 | 5593623 Rock On Roger
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Perhaps you should read a map of the area.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 22:17 | 5594958 RaceToTheBottom
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dupe

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:01 | 5593677 Volkodav
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No

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 17:47 | 5594344 Monty Burns
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Your understanding is incorrect.  

Unfortunately.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:52 | 5593637 flapdoodle
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If memory serves, Russia is working on a bridge to Crimea from Russia in order to no longer depend on the Ukraine for electricity, land access, or water for that matter. Haven't heard much about how they have progressed or how far along it is...

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:16 | 5594092 COSMOS
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The Germans built one in WW2 and it lasted a few years.  But I think it was not that well built.  Also it may have been only rail.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:39 | 5593582 Joe Plane
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AFAIK there's an agreement between Russia and Ukraine with Russia supplying the electricity for Crimea over the Ukrainian power grid. The only reason for the cut off is that probably the ukies are stealing the electricity like they do with gas for EU.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:00 | 5593667 flapdoodle
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Just a few days ago I saw a picture of a railroad bridge in Mariupol that was blown up by pro-Russian partisans... perhaps this is retaliation?

http://en.censor.net.ua/news/317612/attempts_to_blow_up_two_more_bridges...

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:26 | 5593771 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The Kiev Junta is having some ... difficulties.

As you said, a Mariupol railroad bridge had an oopsie:

http://en.voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/3293-the-war-in-novorossia-onli...
[ toward bottom of page ]

In Odessa, at the Zastava-1 rail station, an explosion "undermined" one of the side rail lines:

http://en.voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/3295-the-war-in-novorossia-onli...

And in Kiev itself, an unknown person threw a grenade at Verkhovna Rada deputies standing outside of a hotel. (Oh no! Not the People's Deputies!)

http://en.voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/3297-the-war-in-novorossia-onli...

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 21:03 | 5594775 Volkodav
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Actually, it is not  known who detonate bridge.

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:16 | 5593505 JustUsChickensHere
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No need to retaliate...  there is a payment due in January anyway ... if that is not made, Ukraine gas stops. Just wait and see - only a few days anyway.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:31 | 5593314 Bankster Kibble
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Forget pipelines and wires, send Crimea windmills and solar rigs, and the technicians who can put them together.  Could be good for alternative energy stocks.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:51 | 5593407 Long-John-Silver
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That's funny! Wind Turbines can only produce power when the wind is just right. Typically Wind Turbines only produce power 15% to20% of the day. The other 75% to 80% comes from it's backup power plant.

 

http://www.aweo.org/windbackup.html

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:37 | 5593344 Long-John-Silver
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The only source of fresh water to Crimea comes from Ukraine via an aqueduct. I expect that will soon be cut off as well. No one lived in Crimea before the Russians built that aqueduct when they built their only naval base that does not freeze up during the winter. Once Ukraine cuts the water off it's game over for the Crimean population. Russia will probably build desalination plants for the base but it can't supply water for the population. I expect the Crimean aqueduct will suffer a "Terror Attack" in the next few days.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:53 | 5593418 crazzziecanuck
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Ukaine did cut of Crimea's water supply earlier in the year.  It was restored after a day or so.

Another dumb f**k move by the retards in Kiev.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:14 | 5593491 TungstenBars
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At this point, what does Russia have to lose by taking 1/3 of Ukraine, including a land bridge to Crimea?

My bet is 1/2 the Ukie army will defect to Russia within 12 hours. American mercs will get squashed. What do the Russians have to lose?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 17:45 | 5594336 Monty Burns
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Such a move by Russia in response to such a provocation would be within international law I believe.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:45 | 5593388 Counterpunch
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Collective punishment, eh?


How Israeli of the putsch regime in Kiev.... which, given the fact that the President, PM, and head of parliament, as well as many if not most of the oligarchs and media owners are Jewish, in a nation that is literally less than 1% Jewish....  I suppose that makes some sense, eh?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:47 | 5593393 Quinvarius
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Sensing the storm will rage before the lethal aid arrives.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 12:54 | 5593428 Mike Honcho
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Whatever the situation, the USA needs to solve it.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:15 | 5593735 TheFourthStooge-ing
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+1 for the excellent sarcasm.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:28 | 5593777 Wahooo
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We will line-in-sand some folks.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:05 | 5593458 L Bean
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 Much Israeli playbook. So holiday punishment. Big cruelty. Wow.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:23 | 5593526 Volkodav
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Only the weak are cruel

Gentleness can only be expected from the strong

                     Leo Buscaglia

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:43 | 5593595 Joe Plane
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Orthodox Cristmas is in January.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:00 | 5593670 L Bean
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The action was a western one, which makes it even more sick actually; "Merry Christmas, Russia!"

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:06 | 5593461 Latitude25
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Yeah and Russia could launch ICBMs and the price of gold still wouldn't budge.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:08 | 5593470 vincenze
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The Ukraine produces electricity from coal, natural gas and uranium.

The Ukrainian government kills coal miners; so, it has no coal. The Ukrainian government has little money for gas.

Uranium is supplied by its worst enemy - Russia.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:23 | 5593525 Rootin' for Putin
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it cant be hard to run a cable under the kerch strait for 4-5 miles and get your electricity from russia.  Although i am sure there would be more to it than that.  But power companies should be able to figure this out pretty quick if they have the equipment handy.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:24 | 5593530 Me_Myself_and_I
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Russia is the one who created this mess and who wanted the Crimea.  Let Russia own up to its responsibilities.  Let Russia run the trains and manage the infrastructure.

 

What.. wait.. everyone was expecting Ukraine to keep paying for a breakaway region that  wants be part of another country?

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:30 | 5593547 Volkodav
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ignorant post

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:04 | 5593685 Me_Myself_and_I
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but this is an ignorant annexation, Herr Comrade Volkodav

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:11 | 5593724 TheFourthStooge-ing
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The ignorance is in believing the annexation fairy tale.

Crimeans voted to secede from the Ukraine (and who can blame them) and petition for accession to the Russian Federation. Their request was accepted.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:20 | 5593737 Volkodav
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baby talk

Aggression was from Kiev coup.

Crimeans voted.

Crimea decided secede from Ukraine

It was elegant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrki2zYJ-5Q  

Nikolai Starikov  Three Prizes of Ukraine

 

 

 

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:48 | 5593617 activisor
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We are witnessing genocide with the full support of EU nations.

So much for International law. The leaders of Germany, the UK, France, Australia and Canada plus the US of course: all recognised globalists, will face war crimes in the fullness of time. Their blind refusal to speak out against the atrocities being dished out by the Kiev fascists is a travesty of justice. They shoulsd all hang their heads in shame. Roll on the new paradigm.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:23 | 5594112 COSMOS
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Its a landgrab by the Euros. Ukraine has some of the best farmland in the world and women.  You dont think the Eurocrauts would pass up on that opportunity to make a grab for Lebensraum.  Who doesnt want forty acres of prime European land and a place to park their BMW for their summer vacation house.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 13:51 | 5593630 HowdyDoody
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In Ukraine, there is no Sanity Clause.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 15:51 | 5594022 Bankster Kibble
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I watched NORAD track Santa over Eastern Ukraine, and he didn't get shot at even once!

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:32 | 5593779 Volkodav
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Michael Hudson    Professor of Economics  University of Missouri Kansas City

http://michael-hudson.com/2014/12/russian-pivot/

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 14:40 | 5593826 bid the soldier...
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Before January 1, 2015 Ukraine must pre-pay Gazprom for its January gas deliveries.  

If Gazprom doesn't cash that check (accept payment), Ukraine and its pals in NATO may be a few farts short of their quotidian winter needs and forced to eat more cabbage to make up for that tit for tat shortfall. 

The Nuland/Poroshenko game plan has always been to provoke Putin to invade Ukraine.  DEMONSTRABLY INVADE.

He hasn't been provoked thus far and I doubt he ever will.

Winter is here and Putin is talking about sanctions.  We have learned from Western sanctions against Russia, that they trump any contractual agreements.  

Russian sanctions against the EU, by the Law of the Goose and the Gander, could stop 1/3 of Europe's gas supply.

But Putin is too nice a guy for that.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 15:02 | 5593890 trader1
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not just power

 

 

Dec 26 (Reuters) - The world's two largest credit and debit card companies, Visa Inc and MasterCard Inc , said on Friday they could no longer support bank cards being used in Crimea, following U.S. sanctions imposed earlier this month.

The United States last Friday prohibited U.S.-registered companies from investing in Crimea or providing services to firms operating there, among sanctions imposed over Russia's annexation of the peninsula from Ukraine.

Visa said in a statement that the sanctions meant it could not offer Visa-branded products and services to Crimea.

"We can no longer support card issuing and merchant/ATM acquiring services in Crimea," it said.

  

Competitor MasterCard also said that it had to suspend operations with bank cards in Crimea due to the sanctions. 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 15:45 | 5594002 americanspirit
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My guess is that it won't take the people in Crimea very long to discover how sweet life is without Visa and MC.

Oh - and people of Crimea - cut up your cards and default on your CC balance, just for fun.

And while we're at it Russia should immediately make having a Visa or MC account a serious crime, and offering Visa or MC "services" an even moree serious crime, and should simultaneously create a legal structure shielding individual Russians from any consequences from defaulting on their Vias/MC balances and indemnifying Russian merchants for defaulted CC accounts.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:03 | 5594060 shovelhead
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As Mr. Panos would say:

"Hello Mr. Schnitzel-Face. Hope you enjoy your cold home this evening because you want to be Americas lap doggie. Maybe your good friend Obama will send you some blankets to keep your fat asses nice and warm.

Hey Mr. Schnitzel-Face...FUCK YOU.

Happy New Year, from Greece."

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:15 | 5594090 Amerikan Patriot
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Putin may be stupid, but he's not an asshole. 

He's a silly goose!

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:26 | 5594120 COSMOS
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Stop projecting partially.  Because you are also an ahole.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:17 | 5594099 Amerikan Patriot
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It's unfortunate that the good Russian people have to endure a dictator like Vlad, who will ultimately impoverish them.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:27 | 5594127 COSMOS
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You mean like the AIPAC politburo is impoverishing the American citizens.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:25 | 5594118 Amerikan Patriot
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Those of you who have presciently referred to the ruble as the "rubble", well, we stand corrected.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 16:30 | 5594131 COSMOS
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You seem more like an AIPAC Patriot than and American one.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 17:37 | 5594323 Monty Burns
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The AIPAC people are loyal devoted patriots.  But not to America.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 18:14 | 5594412 IronForge
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C'mon RUS!!  Bring in a Few Nuke Boats; and light up the Town!!!!

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 03:16 | 5595541 theyjustcantstop
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all people in ukraine, and crimea, are in danger.

their just chips in a poker game, not just to ire putin, but get the crown jewel first.

germany, by forcing their financial comitments to be over extended, and finally controled by the BIS, through the ecb. the super-fecta, ecb./ boe., boj., and the fed. the black-hole of 3-4 billion citizens assets.

the eu., going to have to come up with payment for ukraines gas bill, and the new contracts could be very open ended, and more expensive.

 

 

 

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