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2014: The Year Propaganda Came Of Age

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By Raúl Ilargi Meijer of The Automatic Earth

2014: The Year Propaganda Came Of Age

From just about as early in my life as I can remember, growing up as a child in Holland, there were stories about World War II, and not just about Anne Frank and the huge amounts of people who, like her, had been dragged off to camps in eastern Europe never to come back, but also about the thousands who had risked their lives to hide Jewish and other refugees, and the scores who had been executed for doing so, often betrayed by their own neighbors.

And then there were those who had risked their lives in equally courageous ways to get news out to people, putting out newspapers and radio broadcasts just so there would be a version of events out there that was real, and not just what the Germans wanted one to believe. This happened in all Nazi – and Nazi friendly – occupied European nations. The courage of these people is hard to gauge for us today, and I’m convinced there’s no way to say whom amongst us would show that kind of bravery if we were put to the test; I certainly wouldn’t be sure about myself.

Still, without wanting to put myself anywhere near the level of those very very real heroes, please don’t get me wrong about that, that’s not what I mean, I was thinking about them with regards to what is happening in our media today. I’ve mentioned before that I don’t think Joseph Goebbels had anything on US and European media today.

That propaganda as a strategic and political instrument has been refined to a huge extent over the past 70-odd years since Goebbels first picked up on Freud’s lessons on how to influence the unconscious mind, and the ‘mass-mind’, as a way to ‘steer’ an entire people, not just as a means to make them buy detergent. These days, the media can make people believe just about anything, and they have the added benefit that they can pose as friends of the people, not the enemy.

But there is a reason why such a large ‘industry’ has developed on the web with people writing articles that don’t say what the mass media say. That reason for is, obviously, first and foremost that not everybody believes whatever they are told. The problem is equally obvious: not nearly enough people are being reached to make a true difference, and to question the official narratives.

Me, I have no claim to fame outside of the appreciation I get from first, my readers and second, from my colleagues and peers. I get a lot of both, and I thank you for that, but this certainly is not about me. If anything, it’s about trying to live up to the desire for truth in the face of odds squarely stacked against it, and against the people I try to reach out to. Trying to do just 0.1% of what the WWII underground press was about.

A few days ago, I wrote in About That Interview:

The FBI claims they are certain the hackers are North Korean, but they have provided no proof of that claim. We have to trust them on their beautiful blue eyes. I think if anything defines 2014 for me, it’s the advent of incessant claims for which no proof – apparently – needs to be provided. Everything related to Ukraine over the past year carries that trait. The year of ‘beautiful blue eyes’, in other words. Never no proof, you just have to believe what your government says.

And that truly defines 2014 for me. A level of propaganda I don’t recognize, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen before. 2014 has for me been the year of utter nonsense. To wit, it just finished in fine form with a 5% US GDP growth number, just to name one example. Really, guys? 5%? Really? With all the numbers presented lately, the negative Thanksgiving sales data – minus 11% from what I remember -, the so-so at best Christmas store numbers to date, shrinking durable goods in November and all? Plus 5%?

It really doesn’t matter what I say, does it? You have enough people believing ridiculous numbers like that to make it worth your while. After all, that’s all that counts. It’s a democracy, isn’t it? If a majority believes something, it becomes true. If you can get more than 50% of people to believe whatever you say, that’s case closed.

With well over 90 million working age Americans counted as being out of the labor force, and with 43 million on food stamps, you can still present a 5% GDP growth number, if only you can get a sufficiently large number of people to ‘believe’. And you do, I’ll give you that. As far as the media goes, we have achieved the change we can believe in. We may not have that change, but we sure do believe we have, don’t we? And isn’t that what counts? Are congratulations in order?

Well, not where I’m at, they’re not. I should do a shout out to the likes of Zero Hedge, Yves Smith, David Stockman, Wolf Richter, Mish, Steve Keen, Jim Kunstler, and so many others, we’re a solid crowd by now even if we’re neglected, and please don’t feel left out if you’re not in that list, I know who you are. The problem is, we’re all completely neglected by the mass media, even though there are a ton of very sharp minds in this ‘finance blogosphere’. And perhaps we should make it a point to break through that ridiculous black-out in 2015.

2014, in my eyes, has been the year of propaganda outdoing even its own very purpose, and succeeding too. We are supposed to be living in a time of the best educated people in the history of mankind, and everyone thinks (s)he’s mighty smart, but precious few have even an inkling of a clue of what transpires in the world they live in. Talk about a lost generation. Or two.

We really need to question the value of higher education, if all we get for it is a generation of people so easily duped by utter blubber. What do they teach people at our universities these days? Certainly not to think for themselves, that much is clear. And then what is the use? Why spend all that time raising an entire generation of highly educated pawns, sheep and robots? I can think of some people liking that, but for society as a whole, it’s devastating if that’s all higher education is.

And if you would like to raise doubts here, the very existence of finance blogosphere I mentioned before is proof that we indeed have raised a generation of sheep. If we had functioning media, there’d be no need for that blogosphere. We are the people who keep on pointing out where the mass media fail, let alone the politicians, simply by being there and being supported to the extent we are by the few people who escape the sheep mentality.

But that’s not nearly enough. Journalists, reporters, whatever they call themselves, working for Bloomberg, Reuters, CNBC etc. should at the very least quote Zero Hedge on a daily basis, and Mish, and Steve, and Yves, and perhaps even me – though it’s fine if they continue to ignore me, as long as they give the rest their rightful place.

There are many people in the blogosphere who are many times smarter than the people who write for the mass media, and that’s a very simple and hardly disputable fact that needs to be recognized. When you read something in your paper or at your online news provider, it should be second nature to ask yourself: but what would Tyler Durden say, or the Automatic Earth, or Naked Capitalism, or David Stockman?

But we’re nowhere near that, are we? We’ve been fooled with economic stats for years, not just in the US, not even just in the west, but all over, they all grabbed on to the potential of providing people with numbers that have little to do with reality, but that simply feel good. Or even just look good.

Still, boy, have we been, and are we being, fooled. Then again, most of you wouldn’t know, would you? We people tend to discount the future, to see today as more important than tomorrow, and in the same manner we find our children’s future much less important than our own. Because that feels good too. If we are comfy right now, screw them. Not that we’d ever put it into those terms.

But you know, that’s really all old hack by now. 2014 brought us a whole other class of nonsense. And we swallowed it all hook line and entire sinker.

2014 gave us Ukraine. And you just try and find anyone today who doesn’t think Vladimir Putin is and was the evil genius mind behind the whole thing, including the 4500+ people who died there over the past 10 months. Why is it so hard to anyone who doubts that narrative? Because our media told us Putin is the bogeyman. And ‘we’ never asked for any proof. That is, except for those of us in that same blogosphere.

Meanwhile, round after round of sanctions against Russia have been set up and activated by EU and US, causing hardship for both Russian people and European businesses. But why, what exactly is Putin allegedly guilty of?

The US/EU installed a government in Kiev in February (yeah, yap about it), which is still in place, with a bunch of US citizens recently added for good measure – and for profit-. The chocolate prince president was indeed elected months later, but the prime minister – Yats – was handpicked by America, and is still -amazingly – in place. That’s the same government that had it own army murder thousands of its own citizens, and not a thing has been resolved so far.

The whole thing came to a head when MH17 was shot down over the summer. That too was blamed on Putin. Or was it? Well, not directly, nobody said Putin ordered that plane to be shot. Nor did anyone say Russia shot it. There is the accusation that Russian speaking Ukrainian ‘rebels’ did it, but proof for that was never provided in the 6 months since the incident. And there must be a best before date in there somewhere.

Is it possible the ‘rebels’ did it? We can’t exclude it, but that’s for the same reason we can’t exclude the option that little green Martians did it: we don’t know. But even then, even if they did, there’s the question whether that would have been on purpose. Which seems really stretching it: nothing they want would be served by shooting down a plane full of European, Malaysian and Australian holiday goers.

But here we are: no proof and layer upon layer of sanctions. And nary a voice is raised in the west. If one is, it’s to denounce the Russians as bloodthirsty barbarians. Even though there is no proof they did anything other than protecting what they see as their own people. Something we all would do too, no questions asked.

Ukraine defines 2014 as the year western propaganda came into its own. Not just fictional stories about an economic recovery anymore, no, we had our politico-media establishment ram an entire new cold war down our throats. And we swallowed it whole. We may have had a million more years of higher education than our parents and grandparents, but we sure don’t seem to have gotten any smarter than them.

There is a lot of information out there, written by people inspired by things other than monetary incentives or job security or anything like that, people who simply want to get information out that your trusted media won’t give you anymore than Goebbels’ media did in occupied Europe in the 1940s. And you don’t even have to risk your lives to access that information. All you have to do is to get off your couch.

The Automatic Earth is but a small part of a very valuable and fast growing resource that warrants a lot more attention than it’s been receiving to date. A reported 5% US GDP growth print is one reason why, the entire Ukraine fantasy story is another. The blogosphere is full of functioning neurons, which is more than you can say for your papers and online MSM.

As far as media is concerned, 2014 has been downright scary in its distortion of reality. Let’s try and move 2015 a little bit closer towards what’s actually happening.

 

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Sat, 12/27/2014 - 10:59 | 5595987 Seize Mars
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I think propaganda came of age with the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012. It made it legal for .gov to spread lies in the form of fake news stories. Right after that all the hoaxes began, such as Sandy Hook.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:03 | 5595999 WTFRLY
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Excellent. Spot on. More to the point, there are 3 camps, the "blogosphere" as described (including all the readers and crowdsourcing), the unaware and dazed sheep that are only exposed to the propaganda, and finally the class that will zealously defend the propaganda. That is your enemy in addition to the propaganda. At this point, all that can be done is win the ideological battle over giant lies, when they happen, while the body is still fresh. The only thing left to us is to break the illusion with the truth, obvious, but not stated enough. ZH charts and the like go a long way to that, but still not enough. The positive trend, and what has changed say from 2008 or so, is that at least the propaganda now has to directly fight the blogosphere, and with increasing intensity. Just look at what happened with the CDC and shoddy (criminal) guidelines for Ebola and how many times they changed their official position after the blogosphere broke one part of the lie (say for example aerosolization allowing pseudo-airborne spread).

Keep fighting.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:35 | 5596313 James-Morrison
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Free your mind,
And your ass will follow.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:06 | 5596002 Lea
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"Goebbels first picked up on Freud’s lessons on how to influence the unconscious mind, and the ‘mass-mind’, as a way to ‘steer’ an entire people"

Goebbels didn't pick on Freud's so-called "lessons on how to influence", since Freud was precisely all about getting rid of undue influences. Goebbels took his cues from Freud's NEPHEW, Edward Bernays, a PR man who had drawn on Freud's teachings to advertising ends.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4612464

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 18:41 | 5597215 noben
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"This Psycho-Analysis is all very nice, uncle Sig, but how can I make money on this?" - Edward Bernays

"My dear Edward, you go to the usual candidates:  The people with money and power.  They will be all too happy to help you make money and become famous, if it makes them even richer and more powerful.  This is how our People have climbed the ladder of success for thousands of years." -Uncle Freud

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:28 | 5596011 Ahoy Polloi
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 "also about the thousands who had risked their lives to hide Jewish and other refugees"

 

So if Nazi's take foothold in Amerika in the near future, does that mean that I need to hide the cowering, trembling, Lloyd Blankfein, Sergey Brin, Mark Zuckerberg, Paul Allen, Larry Ellison, Sheldon Adelson's, etc. in my attic to keep those innocent saints 'safe' from the actual BAD people?

 

Or OTOH, was it the unrelenting 'behavior' & avarice of the aforementioned (& their ilk) which potentially sowed a fertile landscape for Nazi-ism to rise in the firstplace?

 

I'm sure we'll never know. (especially if you watch TV)

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:37 | 5596109 GetZeeGold
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So if Nazi's take foothold in Amerika in the near future

 

Ummmm..........nevermind.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:43 | 5596124 Ahoy Polloi
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I understand what you're insinuating.

 

Nazi's are here already.

 

The only problem is that, because of indoctrination, the average Joe on the street would think that Nazi's & Zionists were at the opposite ends of the spectrum (Hell, they don't even know what a Zionist is). They're incapable of resolving such things.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:47 | 5596143 Infinite QE
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Yes indeed. The average sheeple needs an education as to what the AshkeNAZI's are and their fake chosen people mythology.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:14 | 5596237 L Bean
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Looks like Jeb Bush's wife? That's Jeb next to Murdoch, correct?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:28 | 5596295 GetZeeGold
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You're 50% correct.....not bad for your first try.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:54 | 5596368 sprintjump
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Valarie Jarrett?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 21:47 | 5597617 OldPhart
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I'm going with sprintjump's answer.

Sun, 12/28/2014 - 09:42 | 5598477 GetZeeGold
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That would be correct.

 

Wow.....you guys are pretty damn sharp.

 

That's all I have to say about that.....for now.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:05 | 5596207 Shitgum Suicide
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I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 2:10

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:04 | 5596155 Lumberjack
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redacted. 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:25 | 5596459 Winston Churchill
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Thats Lord Blanfein to you ,and NO.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 19:16 | 5597311 noben
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Not Lord Bankfine?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:12 | 5596015 McCormick No. 9
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This has been going on since  9/11. Or earlier. Watch Easy Rider, the UFO scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOaDytJXIrE

Aside from more detailed theories of "who" might be driving UFO's, the conversation hasn't changed at all in the last 46 years. In a way, this is completely on topic, (the topic being information exchange)  and the internet is often no more, (or less) than a conversation around a digital campfire.

The truth will out, and despite the control matrix and the propganda antics of the elite, I think more people think than not. But we do it privately. The question isn't "Why don't we have the truth?", but rather, "Why aren't we doing anything about the truth we do have?"

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:02 | 5596191 NotApplicable
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It hardly matters if the truth gets out as it will be denied as disinformation, thanks to the disinformation already accepted as information. Or worse yet, believed but discredited as conspiracy theory (JFK, for example). So, no one can discuss it seriously without "tin-foil" jokes.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:10 | 5596023 Temerity Trader
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No mention of Ed Snowden? None at all. There was never a clearer case for the sheeple being led astray by the propaganda machine. When they surveyed the sheeple, 2/3 said he was a “traitor” and should be shot. All the power brokers have to do is add a national security classification to every dirty little secret.  Then if you tell, you are a criminal. You endangered “national security”.  Perfect protection against disclosure. The end result?

Classic:

<”…Göring: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.
Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.
Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country...">
 

How true. We will be dragged into wars forever. Bush said we will be in multi-generational wars. just getting the lemmings ready for what is to come. One day, the oligarchs will miscalculate badly with someone like Putin, and all hell will break loose. The propaganda machine will of course, say it is all Russia’s fault.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:12 | 5596033 8th Estate
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"If you try to wake the dreamer, he will dream you are crazy"

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:21 | 5596061 Lordflin
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In the first place Martians aren't green, they are blue. In the second place, higher education has always been about indoctrination, and the reward that goes to those with gifted minds, ambition, and a lack of moral compass. We have our high priest, and our magicians, and the predominant lay, the same as it has always been. Or, as the Bible puts it, there is a way that seems right to a man.

So long as the masses can meet their basic needs they will remain quiescent. When that is no longer the case they will rise from their couches and grab their pitchforks... that is, unless they can manipulated into a war with some outside agent. That too is as it has always been.

The real difference in this 'modern' world of ours is the global nature of today's events... i.e., there is nowhere to run... and the world ending devastation we are now capable of... a suggestion that the curtain is finally coming down on this little drama of ours.

Will we prove ourselves a bad experiment in nature's ongoing struggle to perfect itself... as some believe. Or are we created in the image of God with a Devine destiny... some of us anyway. I believe we are about to find out.

Or in the words of our friends across the great blue sea... we live in interesting times.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:36 | 5596102 Moccasin
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Goebbels read Edward Bernays books, Crystallizing Public Opinion and Propaganda. I recommend both books to anyone who wants to study public relations and propaganda, it will change they way you look at the world and how you consume the news.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:38 | 5596110 Shed Boy
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Once critical thinking died....pushing propaganda became a no brainer.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:45 | 5596128 L Bean
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2014, in my eyes, has been the year of propaganda outdoing even its own very purpose, and succeeding too. 

 

You must've missed the Libyan overthrow and the numerous Syrian false flags of the past several years, not to mention the ongoing covert-ish bombings in Yemen, Somalia etc, and the countless Israeli massacres of the past decade... same propaganda model and level of ridiculousness. The Ukraine thing is just more slow-moving and well-reported, bc Cold War propaganda heft.

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:54 | 5596166 Lumberjack
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This isis horeshit too.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:54 | 5596174 L Bean
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Absolutely.

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:58 | 5596376 lakecity55
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!!

"Hey, let's take these Fundamentalists who work for us sometimes and arm them up to go after Syria. We can ship all the unregistered weapons from Libya to them, heh heh. Nothing can go wrong with this plan!"

McCain: "I'l pay them a visit and ask them to hold off on some of the head-chopping."

Bath House: "Great idea, John. Have Miss Lindsey report to me. I have some Enabling Acts in mind."

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:02 | 5596196 lakecity55
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During the Cold War, the Soviets were adventurous, supporting regimes against the West (like Ortega down in Nicaragua). W/O the USSR anymore, the machinations of the Western Agencies are more visible.

So, was it the West against the Bad Soviets? Yes, to a large degree.

But, were the Western Financial Powers also building their own system to Rule with?

Absolutely.

The same theory runs through history as we all know. Create two sides, initiate conflict, profit from both, and end up with more control at the end.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:10 | 5596219 L Bean
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I was simply referring to the propaganda value of all things cold war. In other words, Americans couldn't care less about Lybia, Syria, etc because they have no frame of reference. Hence, there's no real propaganda value in even discussing it, beyond pat demonization. They're milking the Ukraine thing because they realize its value to the media consumer.

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:19 | 5596265 lakecity55
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The amount of Treasure expended to waylay Libya, Syria, etc is a threat to our own national security by people who do not have US in mind! Right you are!

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:05 | 5596575 UselessEater
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During the Cold War... the globalist corporation (vested interests) got richer serving both sides & their blood lust, making sure there was an equivelant counterbalancing threat between "nations" even when there formerly wasn't such capability, to prolong a fun "conflict". Yep, read a few Anthony Sutton books, and now I rethink history past and present... its happening again, I suspect the only 'real' wars are where the BIS does not live - the rest is a teaser come crowd pleaser towards a new game we don't want to know but requires the demise of the USA.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 23:59 | 5597951 delacroix
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ortega was not against the west. he was defending against western agression, and criminal takeover. he is the current president of nicaragua.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:47 | 5596137 Kina
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Dont forget the Huffington Post, made themselves another outlet for anti Russian/Putin propaganda.

They are all whores now.

Public should understand that anything in the media, out of the mouth of a politician, or public servant should always be considered a lie and misinformation. For even when it doesn't matter, these people will still lie.

 

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:48 | 5596348 Imagery
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There was a time post-2007 Financial Crisis till not long ago when Business Insider, an online pub funded by Ariana Huffington, was a pretty good news place I fequented.  Not sure exactly when, but certainly post-Ukraine, it has become the most worthless, Goebbels-style propaganda piece ever.  Nayer a story but those spun where Putin invaded Ukraine.  No Nuland Cookie retorts, No Putin food convoys, No stories regarding self-determination as in +-90% vote to join Russia, etal.

Heck, you can hardly even find a TBTF WS Banker excoriated there anymore.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 19:22 | 5597325 noben
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Ah, the Puffington Host.

The Hostess with the Mostest...  Ancient trick:  Position yourself as a key player and sell out to the dominant players, or suffer the consequences of Resistance.  I guess the moral might be:  Although Resistance is futile for journalists, it does not mean that Capitulation cannot be made Profitable.  It's an Exit Strategy for Media types:  Sell out.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:47 | 5596140 skbull44
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I like how the late George Carlin summed it up: "It's all bullshit, and it's bad for ya!"

http://olduvai.ca

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:48 | 5596141 Dutch
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What you actually have is people who "want" to believe. As long as the fiction is framed in such a way that it can be easily digested as "everyone knows that...", many people will sign up, probably because the little world they have now is the best they ever expect to have. Why rock the boat? And if you can turn two minutes of hate towards some entity that might be forced to give up some of its wealth and power, and some small fraction of it might find its way to you, then why not?

The MSM, as courtiers to the powers that be, understand this trade off most directly, and stand to increase their wealth and power most assuredly by playing the game. Many others are trained to believe that they only get, by having things given to them by the system, so they buy in, even though they know better.

That leaves the rest of us, who most assuredly understand the game, and refuse to play along. We are the enemy, and sites such as ZH have allowed us to see that others out there are of a similar understanding and stubbornness. But sites such as ZH also help the authorities identify those of us who "get it". If sh*t gets ugly, I will expect a knock on the door.

The crazy thing is, I am not really doing anything other than minding my own business, looking out for my own, and staying out of other people's way. But thoughtcrime is real, and the piper may need to be paid someday.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:57 | 5596184 lakecity55
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If we are at a point where we would be forced to listen to Bill Ayers' drivel in a leaky Stalag 13 camp one day, just for discussing the news as free men, we have already lost what we pretend to defend.

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 16:32 | 5596962 Raging Debate
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Well Dutch I wouldnt worry about that now. If WW3 erupts then sites like ZH will be banned and at that point we have done all we can. I don't find it wise for those in independent media at that point to continue, armies will dictate fate and each country's propoganda and patriotic zealotry would make such an effort worthless and dangerous risk for no return.

When I launched Raging Debate in 2008 I was audited by the IRS the next year. I expected it. They claimed they were missing filings but I had everything in order and had paid all taxes. I don't lose sleep because I post here. Those advocating violence may be another matter. Loss mitigation for posterity is an inclusive effort for those at all strata of society, even the top. So one mitigates personal risk by doing so.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:50 | 5596154 Shitgum Suicide
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Speaking of propaganda there was a fight that broke out at a Pittsburgh mall. Even they used quotations to describe the "youths" involved. Nope. No behavior by a certain ethnicity to highlight the failed policies of govt to edumacate da yoots. Naw they all come from good Christian families. My baby duns do nuffins.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/brawl-mall-teens-injured-multiple-fi...

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:43 | 5596337 Never One Roach
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Multiculturalism at its finest.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:50 | 5596158 ISEEIT
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I love the article. This world has become surreal. Both the breadth and depth of corruption/perversion is nearly absolute. Humanity has perhaps never before been subject to such malevolently farcical mocking of truth and eternal reality.

I miss the pleasure of reading http://www.finemrespice.com/

2015 promises to be a truly exceptional year.

 

Exceptionally dangerous.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:52 | 5596165 lakecity55
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I had a wise old 'perfesser' in college who had been an OSS guy in WW2. Let's leave it at that.

One day (early 1970s) he and I were talking. He observed the Soviets would like to have more free-market stuff to control their citizens, while the West would like more power politically to control its citizens.

Obviously, I said that means one day the two will meet, to which he observed we should stay on our toes.

Obviouly, a permutation of what my prof told me could happen has come true.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 19:10 | 5597275 NickVegas
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The old teacher with exotic experience quote. Sometimes it is a high school teacher who was a Green Beret/Ranger ex CIA operative ex fighter pilot, who somehow ended up in generic high school America and has incisive comments on geo-political events.

I can visualize the manual describing this technique. I see this form and variations used all over. It is a beacon. We are talking about Bernay's style propaganda.

Here is my best guess, the reader needs some type of perceived authority to give credbility to the statement without source trackability, hence the wise old ape archtype is invoked.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:54 | 5596168 rainingFrogs
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“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” - Joseph Goebbels

Education or not, clearly, propaganda works.  After all, half of Americans believe torture is a good thing.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:16 | 5596247 Shitgum Suicide
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Nobody said torture was good and what we did was not torture. Even dick holder testified before congress and admitted it. We did what was necessary and no it was not pretty.
Torture is to purposefully inflict pain for no other reason than to inflict pain.
Get yourself educated because you are lacking in this area.
This is torture!!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ye7x3jbi_TE

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:52 | 5596502 Tall Tom
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Torture is to purposefully inflict pain for no other reason than to inflict pain.

 

 

 

 

 

UNTRUE.

 

Reasons for torture can include punishment, revenge, political re-education, deterrence, interrogation or coercion of the victim or a third party, or simply the sadistic gratification of those carrying out or observing the torture.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture

 

Furthermore the United States LEGAL DEFINITION is as follows...

 

18 U.S. Code § 2340 - Definitions

 

(1) “torture” means an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control;

(2) “severe mental pain or suffering” means the prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from—
(A) the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of severe physical pain or suffering; (B) the administration or application, or threatened administration or application, of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or the personality; (C) the threat of imminent death; or (D) the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to death, severe physical pain or suffering, or the administration or application of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or personality; and (3) “United States” means the several States of the United States, the District of Columbia, and the commonwealths, territories, and possessions of the United States.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2340

 

Obviously there are other reasons than that which you stated.

 

Your redefinition of the term is a METHOD OF PROPAGANDA.

 

So just what is your interest in justifying the BUTTFUCKING OF CHILDREN in front of their parents in order to compel them to sign false confessions?

 

Are you a PEDOPHILE?

 

Then in addendum to YOUR PROPAGANDA...You write..,.

 

We did what was necessary and no it was not pretty.

 

Really?!? For just what was it necessary? How it that necessary to BUTTFUCK CHILDREN? Yes the United States did that. I have more PROOF than I care to have ever been exposed.

 

You go ahead and JUSTIFY PEDOPHILIA. Yeah. I want to see that...

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 19:35 | 5597345 goneYonder
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Morals have been corrupted nearly absolutely with progrogressivism, utilitarianism, collectivism, moral relativism and multiculturalism. People are literally unable to discern the difference between good and evil.

Sun, 12/28/2014 - 13:10 | 5598930 malek
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 Torture is to purposefully inflict pain for no other reason than to inflict pain.

Uhm, sure.
Make up a reason and all is good!

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:56 | 5596177 alexcojones
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Raul seems to have forgotten Mh370, or how the Dutch got there gold back for keeping silent about MH17, or how the MSM kept silent on all the peaceful food convoys Russia sent into eastern Ukraine. Or how the Scotland independence vote got fear propagandized. Get up to speed Raul, like our buddy Just Observing.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 19:24 | 5597328 noben
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Don't forget zee Sviss Gold.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:06 | 5596190 BruntFCA
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The real joke in this article is people still believe the propganda about Goebells/Hitler and what he did and did not say.....

Take Hitler/Goebells BIG LIE quote (a lie in itself, here's the quote in context).

 

"But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists,.....All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility....they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_lie

In other words, Hitler is saying that it is the leftist Jewish press that are fond of the big lie. So Hitler is saying that the MSM of the day are fond of the big lie, which is what the article itself is saying!

So we have an article that tell lies about Goebells/Hitler who were themeselves talking about the lies of the MSM of the day. In other words the article is in agreement with Mein Kampf while at the same time lying about it. The irony!

Remember during the period 1939-1945 the media was entirely truthful?, then only afterwards did they start lying. ROFL.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:14 | 5596233 Infinite QE
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Yes, indeed. Just look at the lies Americans have been sold since 2000. 9/11, war 1, 2, 3, 4, etc. Who knows what if anything we've been sold about WW2 is truthful. Perhaps what the jewish press sold Americans about what the Germans did was what the Bolsheviks were doing in Germany after the war. If the jewish press is talking, you know they are lying.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:44 | 5596323 Ahoy Polloi
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This, a late entry from the other day (page 2 if the link doesn't take you straight there).

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-25/we-are-taking-stand-freedom-new...

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:52 | 5596342 lakecity55
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What is so scary is that ownership of the Media in the West is in so few hands.

Readers my age can remember when we had tons of different newspapers. We had a morning and afternoon daily in my town.

You did not have these huge radio conglomerates.

You did not have guys like Limbaugh who rightfully pointed out the same buzz-words throughout the media-sphere, yet not inform his listeners of the more dangerous financial oligarchs, probably because Rush was seeking attention and playing golf with many of them.

Look at the MSM gatekeepers on the Right: they all come out for Freedom, but won't give Ron Paul the time of day in a free exchange of ideas.

They give folks a way to vent, but steer the conversation into more fake L-R dynamics.

Over the last 10 years, I have talked with many people. I ask them a series of questions, which reveal they are actually more Libertarian than they think. At least I have left a few people thinking after this.
***

But, don't give up!
Remember the outrage when Lance Link wanted to bomb Syria?
Putin saved the bacon that time.

"You can bomb Syria, Bath House, but you will have to fly your cruise missiles over my battle fleet."

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 21:31 | 5597574 ILLILLILLI
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Speaking of WWII, take some time to read this fascinating story...

 

My reason for writing this book is very simple: I would like to keep the record straight. I want to put in permanent form the full story of my experiences as a Lend-Lease expediter and liaison officer with the Russians during the war, when I served for two crucial years, from May 1942 to June 1944, both at Newark Airport and at the big air base at Grand Falls, Montana.

I went into the Army as a businessman in my forties and a veteran of World War I. From the First, as my story shows, I worked wholeheartedly on behalf of the Russians because, like everyone else, I considered it my duty to do so. That they were satisfied with my efforts is indicated by the fact that it was Colonel Kotikov, head of the Russian mission at Great Falls, who requested my promotion to Major.

But the tremendous volume of Lend-Lease material going through under “diplomatic immunity,” the infiltration of Soviet agents through the Pipeline, the shipments of nonmilitary supplies and even military secrets, were more than I could stomach. I finally protested through proper channels, first in Great Falls, and then in Washington; nothing happened. This was in 1944, while I was still in the Army.

When the atom bomb was first dropped in August, 1945 I learned the full meaning of a word – uranium – I had already encountered in my contact with Colonel Kotikov. When the President announced in 1949 that the Russians had the bomb, I went to see Senator Bridge and my story was thoroughly investigated by the F.B.I. as well as by Fulton Lewis, Jr., who interviewed me on his broadcasts. There followed one Congressional hearing in December, 1949 and another in March, 1950.

 

What follows will amaze you...wait until you read what was shipped to the USSR, and who was behind it all.

Enjoy!

 

http://arcticbeacon.com/books/Maj_Geo_Racey_Jordan-FROM_MAJOR_JORDANS_DI...


Sat, 12/27/2014 - 19:29 | 5597334 noben
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Perhaps I'm mistaken, but it's my distinct impression that Hitler and the Nazis decided to turn the tables on them in every ironic way they could, including:  Forced labor in Labor Camps (with the mock-greeting "Work is Liberating"), wealth confiscation, liberty confiscation, and turning Big Lies on them also.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:13 | 5596200 anticultist
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Long but you should find the real info in here, see if cog can compete with this?

 

Part I

 

Pickens says rig count goes down 40% immediately which will be through 2009 lows, joining all median slave statistics through 2009 lows. But, 5 years of death cult have doubled production costs and it may have to go alot lower or your favorite .001% overlords will have to get much more creative to take it out of slave incomes, that is the standard response to  the tri-obelisk terror wave, it comes out of slave income. With orwellocare costs up 40% in 2nd year, this may be the year the medical slaves join the median class vampire squid fodder. But this culling will not be external regulatory imposed through lawful commerce, it will be run hands on by the oz wizard deep inside the obelisk moat. Fast shutdown response in two weeks. Bagdad bob will be getting alot more creative with economic reporting because this was nearly 100% of all just-over-brokes with many trickle down multipliers like rail and all the part time min wage that services around work. This collapse is the kind of thing that engineers new monetization ponzies to  run the stock market up again during 2015. The new 1T tuition debt for example didnt create anything of new sustainability, it is just much more unemployable slaves educated beyond their intelligence, on the teat, it all went to the university officers ( bloodline patronage appointments ) and university town rentiers. None of it went to increased university staff incomes. I've seen insider reports that the university occult is setup alot like the wallstreet ceo's, they are the "human resource" patronage appointments to filter any counter-satanists out of the university systems. So you have a total full circle blitzkreig on the slaves, the only employment creator was just eliminated, they are all on the teat now. Just a matter if 2015 is the year the medical workers join their eviscerated counterparts. Part II I doubt $20-30 a month gas savings, that can only go to pay wallstreet credit card debt,  makes a dent for slaves and the gasoline tax cut meme is bunk. Slave net worth is just down 80B in the last quarter alone, gas price is not going to make a debt against credit card compounding interest, bagdad bob may be in full throat but it is already beyond parabolic collapse velocity. Gasoline consumption was already down 50%, no just-over-brokes to travel to, or other adjustments have been made by slaves like I lived 1.5 miles to work just to pay the satanist tax genocide, my gas saving was already spent by occult, how is that working out for slaves.  I do know one idiot that just had to stay in home town and travel 50 minutes every day for years and waste a lifetime of labor that could have gone into whole life compounding dividend, there may be one out of a hundred idiots that will benefit  from gas price. Oh, and that massacre is because his liberate wife worked in the home town and he sacrificed himself to do the driving for thirty years. She is now disabled and he is on his last leg from working in  manufacturing and can never recover from 30 years harvest by way of longevity. Gas price doesnt make a debt against 30 years harvest. Before "liberation" they had world class living standard on one income. He never knew his first dollar was worth one million of his millionth dollars, after lifetime compounding of taxations and currency devaluation. Part III gasoline tax cut meme, pigs to the slaughter as usual Its like their pepsi live for now, there is no federali de-education relative to $20 for today against the lifetime compounding evisceration of currency devaluation and taxation. It's how they sell morgue-age with property tax slavery, you can rent it but you can never own it. Ukraine was the only natural law christian place left on the planet where you own, allodial  un-alien-able rights.  Until the occult. Only commercial property paid a property tax on income, in Ukraine, no income no property tax. Counter-satanism could never be allowed to stand in the new world order. At least my wife has no occult satanism liberal communist concepts or ideology, they had full property rights and never new slavery, had largely non existant government and just ignored it, almost same as freedom. Where are you going to find a counter satanist wife is this pig demon tax and terror occult. My wife is Ukranian. Part IV The ukranians did have one characteristic of the occult, soviet union was your same .001% overlord communist bank iteration, they have a legacy of low pay driving the women into work and they were the model for the tv mind control womans lib to eviscerate the american slaves. the communist manifesto specified that all slaves work to turn ownership of the "berths" to the state control, childcare, federali de-education, tuition debt, on and on, etc. There was never a difference from soviet union and the "district" always owned by the same bank, rothchild,  and played off to build the military industrial complex,   now domestic militarization with prison industrial complex. There is alot of information that orwello and putin are in some cooperation running the  orwell 1984 tv war for some common new world order statute monetary agenda. I think they may be running some fake tv war premise for the cover to collapse the system and bring in the  new world order, one government one currency one krislam religion. This is a contingency to be aware of because they say both are owned by the same bank and always have been. But the occult can milk it to full extent for their slave statutes up to the last minute. One common thread is gold wars so that is potential remedy for slaves. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Mali, repatriations, Ukraine. A friend who was an airforce electrician said all types of soviet equipment were kept underground and he was in their aircraft and it was all built out of US parts, with this being during the reagan evil empire theatrics. That was cover for the rothchild bank to evolve the soviet union into the new world order after slaves paid to build their military industrial complex built. Tax and terror pigs to the slaughter. The interesting difference in them was no meaningful presence of government and they still existed as a human society working together, russians and ukranians. complete opposite of the american slave pigs, that is why they are so social and stick together. best just for humans to figure out the scam and get anything they can carry out of this pig and just  get offshore where humanity may be found. Part V >>> the communist manifesto specified that all slaves work to turn ownership of the "berths" to the state control, childcare, federali de-education, tuition debt, on and on, etc. <<<

Oh, and if you lived through that, you saw that built in sequence through irs tax "rules" pigs to the slaughter. First create the problem, then provide the tax rules solution, the dialectic. Thats why occult works generationally, in 20 years no one will be alive to remember how it was done, and they teach the slaves to live for $20 gasoline tax cut for the now
Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:02 | 5596727 CerpherJoe
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[remove redundant unintended duplicative commentary]

{eeesh - maybe I should find something to do ...]

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 17:40 | 5597125 anticultist
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Sorry will edit redundancies, its a bad habit of mine

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 22:33 | 5597734 joe90
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hmmm not bad, worth grazing, a tid bit  "Ukraine was the only natural law christian place left on the planet where you own, allodial  un-alien-able rights"

Sun, 12/28/2014 - 16:06 | 5598599 anticultist
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Everything is opposite the occult propoganda, it may have been the only and last corner of the earth that freedom

existed and could never be allowed to stand in the new world order. They are opposite the russian oligarch where

their economy was based on penny capitalism. They are very enterpreneural but I dont understand where the retail

cash flow comes from, just doesnt seem to be any money.

 

My plan was to live on 4-5k a year there, on $20k annual SS and do something productive with the difference.

Obviously will not happen.

 

their fascist pig, I think named timoshenko with the braided hair crown self appointed queen, owned a chain of super markets,

paid employees cash under the table to avoid paying taxes, that is what she was in jail for,

not the western lie that she made a bad gas deal with russia. She hates russia.

 

Life is certainly difficult there. Annual salary may be $2000-$3000 in smaller cities and big towns, Taxes about 20%.

Many had the free apartments and garden plot. Property passes to children without tax, many of the children are

just waiting around for the old folks on pension to die and then they fight over dividing the property. 

 

But everything is relative,

The difference is price structure of $3000 annual salary and the legacy of free apartment built into salaries.

Energy may be $9 a month, internet $9 a month, food 

very cheap and local such as a 1 cent cucumber,

If they dont have the pass down free apartment, the rent may be $50 a month, $600 a year of

2-3k salary, thus all other things are very cheap. Clothes are not cheap. The women may only own one or two things

wear for years so they pay for top quality not seasonal throw away. That is why they all wear black, cant get caught out

of style with the same thing for several more years.

Non existant cash base medicine, doctors are the poorest of the society and work for free no 

pay from poor people.  The children are lazy and dont work the garden plot, it just doesnt seem to

be a priority when the welfare and glitz seems to come free from EU television.

 

This low price structure is not good for the global tax authority and could not stand.

 

The people are so poor and see western bling on tv and thought if they just took the EU mark of

the beast the welfare money would flow in with 50% EU unemployment slavery.

I dont know the economic structure of the country but it

seems they just needed to industrialize agriculture and export, which they do but probably not with corporation

efficiency. Some things are importantly different regarding human life, gmo is labeled. So what is wealth?

For example they dont even have a beef industry there, easily exploitable.

 

Apparently the western fascist district is so backward, many places and housing dont even have running water.

Can you imagined the ignorance relative to the ignorance of the federalis you are satanized by daily.

 

They hate russian speaking ukranians, hate, and killed a lot of them in wwII fighting along hitler.

My wife says the russian speaking ukrainians which are the overwhelming majority of the population

are not allowed to enter the western cesspool and will get chastised until they leave. She speaks both.

 

They may certainly have reasons to hate the Stalin famine, but I dont know the whole history

how the west sided with hitler into killing ukrainians is part of hating Stalin or how

that applies to hating ukrainians that speak russian, it was russian long before stalin.

Who knows, that may be what I talked about the backward ignorance of the western fascists. They

just hate russia and therefore russian speaking ukrainians something like that because they speak russian

and russian language is associated with the 1932 Stalin famine, eveyone hates Stalin as far as I knew.

 

Most business and services are locally operated penny capitalism but corporations started with the 

national grocery chains which may provide a service but put out some penny capitalists.

 

They probably just had to consolidate most of the country under the same system they had

and develop economically better and faster because it was enterpreneural capitalism already,

and just break off the western cesspool into their own

hitler satan worship death cult. They could have rebuilt and bypassed the western satanists by 

rerouting the pipelines into europe.

 

Somehow of all the supposed evil there, the previous government rapidly built gold reserves, 

with was the people's freedom and security. Now destroyed, collateralizing NY global terror and currency hegemony warfare.

 

There is not much use for cars, everything is local penny capitalism like 1950's america before the liberal satanists.

no bank usury, no statute insurance, no national credit reporting system, no NADA scheduled antitrust depreciation, could not be

allowed to stand in the new world order.

They can now move all corporate services, medicine, grocery, places of employment way outside town and make them

buy cars if they want to eat.

 

My wifes town was same as our town here, 150k population.

She said the contrast is the US town has 50 restaraunts and 2 high schools, her

town and 2 restaurants and 9 highschools,

who are the primative beasts.

 

I and do admit I use the 50 restaurants much more now becasue when my wife started working

min wage job taxed 35% at my marginal rate, we started using restaruants more, she was tired.

 

We may work some the orwellian operations, such as if I got a fake live away address and we got

divorced on paper, she could pull down 50k of welfare and foodstamps. Instead of paying 43% total tax

on her min wage.

 

But if you want a real salt of the earth christian woman with no satanist cannibal blood and guts running

liberal tendencies, no slavery heritage, they are only in Ukraine.

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:58 | 5596734 CerpherJoe
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I have no clue what you said but I like it ;-)

END the FED

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:03 | 5596201 Rock On Roger
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Goebbels' Principles of Propaganda

 

http://www.psywarrior.com/Goebbels.html

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:05 | 5596202 livefreediefree
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This article itself is propaganda. Russia did invade Ukraine. Not acknowledging this fact discredits this article.

Now that propaganda is the norm -- and it is -- everybody does propaganda, but advocates increasingly believe that their propaganda is actually truth and reality, while the other guy's truth and reality is propaganda.

For over 50 years, I've realized that the other side has good arguments. Since I started as a liberal and became a conservative, I've essentially credited both the left and right with good arguments. And, since I know what's strongest and weakest with the arguments of both the left and right, I read everything with a very discerning eye.

So, fuck the author. Yes, the gov't is propagandizing us 24/7/365/eternity/infinity, so why does s/he sully this argument by propagandizing us about Russia and Ukraine? I suppose the answer is: Because that's what propagandists do.

The author mentions is passing that we need to apply critical thinking to the claims of propagandist. I agree. I rated this article a '1'.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:37 | 5596309 lakecity55
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It's the author's opinion, I guess. I don't agree.

I'll bet most people did not know the RF had a giant Navy Base already in Crimea.

When this started for a while, the MSM was trumpeting "Russian Military in Crimea!"

Then it was , "OK, they have a treaty for the navy base, but but they are sneaking in more troops.

(I would have snuck some in myself if fellow Russkies were at risk, or Americans, if the situation was reversed).

"OMG it now looks like they are shooting down civilian airplanes!"

"Why is the evidence locked up, might the Russkies ask?"

MSM: "Look! Squirrel!"

Pilots: "Look, these holes in the forward fuselage are consistent with cannon fire!"

MSM: "Look! Rabbit!"

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:04 | 5596396 apocalypticbrother
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You rated it 1 because you are a douche bag that cares little about facts

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:31 | 5596480 Counterpunch
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Russia did not invade Ukraine - it send additional troops to bolster those already in Crimea to prevent the US-installed coup leaders from taking it, and eventually trying to eject the Russian fleet - a major goal of the Americans as they continue to surround Russia with bases and troops.

The fact that Crimea is majority Russian, was already autonomous, and which voted to rejoin Russia rather than be ruled by the American puppet regime is apparently of no signficance to you.


You might try a little critical examination of your own premises.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:12 | 5596759 anticultist
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Occult tv can never mention, 

Crimea legal status is "Autonomous Republic".

 

Federali de-education doesnt want them to know that international law or definitions exist and what that means

to the rights of those that voted for independence from foreign occupied kiev.

 

Of course if something doesnt look right it probably isnt. I probably dont know all the history and law involved

but I might be inclined to inquire. I always inquire into the opposite of whatever occult is chanting on tv,

but to simplify that process, one can always assume the truth will be 180 degrees opposite occult tv, that narrows the search.

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:03 | 5596591 Boogity
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Hey pal....Despite your 50 plus years of experience and your self-professed superior "discerning eye", you don't even know what you don't know.    You couldn't be more wrong about what's going on in eastern Ukraine.    My wife is from St. Petersburg and her best friend is an ethnic Russian originally from a village just outside of Donetsk whose relatives, including her 86 year old Mother, have spent the last several months hiding in root cellars and concrete block shelters avoiding NATO-backed Ukrainian Army shelling.   My wife's friend was at our house on Christmas day lamenting the situation and astonished that the American people believe the MSM's Russophobic crap and could be so cruel as to support the Ukrainian government's shelling of innocent civilians such as her elderly mother.  

As a result of the above, my wife's friend and her relatives in Donetsk are in fact angry at Putin for what they perceive as him abandoning them to the lunatic Russian-hating western Ukrainian "Banderists" and not ending their misery with a full-scale invasion by the Russian army, who they believe could end this humanitarian disaster in a couple of days.  

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 23:04 | 5597801 livefreediefree
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I expected the ZH Russkyphiles to attack me. Fuck you Russkys. Expectations realized.

Let's simplify, shall we? Please note: Wikipedia and the Washington Post are not part of the VRWC.

Wikipedia on Crimea: In 1954, it became a territory of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic within the Soviet Union. In 1991, it became part of independent Ukraine as the Autonomous Republic of Crimea.

So, Crimea was part of the Ukraine.

From the magnificently credible, Washington Post-based Volokh Conspiracy, Don’t forget about Russia’s invasion and occupation of Crimea:

A generally insightful post by Max Fisher of Vox, argues that Russia has effectively invaded Ukraine... But Fisher does not mention the fact that Russia already invaded Ukraine in a much more blatant and obvious way months ago when it occupied and annexed Crimea. Even Vladimir Putin admits that Russian troops were involved. The fact that the occupation was preceded by a fraudulent referendum and an invitation from a pro-Russian regional government installed by force and fraud does not make it any less an invasion and occupation of another state’s territory. And it’s an invasion that is utterly indefensible as a matter of both international law and political morality. Moreover, as a report by Russia’s Presidential Council on Civil Society and Human Rights noted in April, Russia’s occupation has already led to serious human rights violations, including numerous restrictions of freedom of speech and press, persecution of the Crimean Tatar minority, and efforts to suppress the pro-Ukrainian Kiev Patriarchate Orthodox Church.

Occam's Razor works here. It's real simple: Russia invaded Ukraine. Those who deny it are spinners and propagandists, and/or lack critical thinking skills.

To reiterate: Yes, Wikipedia and the Washington Post are biased, but they are biased left, and therefore pro-Russian.

 

Sun, 12/28/2014 - 10:48 | 5598612 Counterpunch
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Crimea was transferred to Ukraine without a popular vote - by the decree of the Soviet PM - who was Ukrainian. It had been part of Russia for 200 previous years.

Why is it that most of the time when someone summons some article as a defense of the attacks on Putin - the author is a Jewish neocon?

Sun, 12/28/2014 - 14:27 | 5598983 livefreediefree
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So, Wikipedia is wrong? Crimea wasn't part of Ukraine?

Look. It's real simple. If Crimea was a part of Ukraine, and if Russia invaded Ukraine for whatever reason, then Russian invaded Ukraine.

What about that simple English declarative sentence don't you understand?

Why is it that most of the time when someone summons some article as a defense of the attacks on Putin - the author is a Jewish neocon?

Fuck you. You can't argue the merits and facts of the case, so your final answer always seem to involve a "Jewish neocon". Fuck you. By the very fact that you mention "Jewish neocon", you discredit yourself and your argument.

I suppose in Russia your style of argument is a winner,

"Are you Jewish neocon?"

"No, no, no! Please, don't insert fragile glass tubes up my penis again. Please leave me my other eye. And that mix of condiments you put on my right ball as you forced me to eat it was, well, not delicious. And please remove my dead daughter from my sight, dead because she got fucked to death by that enraged rhinoceros."

Yes, Russia, the land of the free and the brave.

Sun, 12/28/2014 - 14:49 | 5599188 livefreediefree
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Here's my short take, Counterpunch, using simple, declarative sentences, and eschewing anything but the bare.

Russia has always been a brutal totalitarian state. For proof, please see all of recorded Russian history. (Yes, around Yeltsin's ascendancy, there was a brief period of something wildly akin, but still far removed from, freedom, but then the Russian soul intervended, so goodbye fleeting freedom. [Whoops. Note to myself. Later, edit the above sentence, and transform it into the simple and declarative]).

Putin is stamped from the mold. He is brutal and totalitarian. Do you think he and his gov't would permit anyone but the most feverently pro-Putin Russians to post on Web sites like ZH? Of course not. Only those Russians who adore Putin as much as the radical left elite in this country adore Obama would be permitted to access the external Web.

Thus, it is my surmise that the only Russians who post on ZH are the Russian equivalent of the elite. Of course, the elite are the elite in Russia because they are rabidly pro-Putin.

I am an internationalist. I say, "Fuck the elite in the USA, and fuck the elite in Russia". (To those of you unused to rationality, that's called being logically consistent).

When people ask me, "Who are you, lfdf", I respond "I am the grandson of Polish peasants". I am. Both sets of grandparents emigrated from Poland to the US around 1900. What those mere words "I am the grandson of Polish peasants" don't convey is the fierce pride I feel when I say them. I am very proud that I am nothing but the scion of peasants. I am a peasant myself. Thank you, Lord, but I am not worthy to be a peasant. Thank you, Lord, for making me one. Your love overwhelms me.

So, in a small way, I have empathy with Russians. Growing up in a small coal mining town in the hills of Appalachia, there were many Russians, Czechs, Hungarians, and other Eastern Europeans in the cultural mix. Sure, I guess there were differences among the nationalities, but, as a kid, I perceived mainly the similarities: A Pole is a Czech is a Russian. So, my pride at being Polish naturally suffused and encompassed any other Eastern Europeans.

Throughout history, the Russian elite has brutalized and killed uncounted tens of millions, including tens of millions of Russian peasants. Fuck you, Russian elite. If Dante were alive today, he would rewrite The Inferno and add an 8th level of hell just for you.

Sun, 12/28/2014 - 20:59 | 5600242 livefreediefree
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Boogity,

To quote you:

Hey pal....Despite your 50 plus years of experience and your self-professed superior "discerning eye", you don't even know what you don't know.

Here's what I know: The 1st paragraph of what I wrote:

This article itself is propaganda. Russia did invade Ukraine. Not acknowledging this fact discredits this article.

What did I say? Only this: "Russia did invade Ukraine". Do you dispute this? Most importantly, re-read my post to determine if I wrote anything else regarding Russia or the Ukraine.

In fact, what I said only hints at whole truth. After invading Crimea, Russia annexed it. At the time it did so annex it, Crimea was part of the Ukraine. Do you dispute this?

My God, even Wikipedia (aka, the encyclopedia of the radical left, and therefore very pro-Russian in its overall tenor), said this:

The annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation was the March 2014 forcible acquisition of most of the Crimean Peninsula, internationally recognized as part of Ukraine, by the Russian Federation... The annexation occurred at culmination point in the 2014 Crimean crisis, caused by a military intervention of Russia into the Autonomous Republic of Crimea... Russia opposes the "annexation" label and Putin defended the vote saying it complied with international law, including Article 1 of the U.N. Charter which states the principle of self-determination of peoples.Ukraine disputes this, as it does not recognize the independence of the Republic of Crimea or the accession itself as legitimate. The United Nations General Assembly also rejected the vote and annexation, adopting a non-binding resolution affirming the "territorial integrity of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders".

In short, Wikipedia affirms everything I wrote (Remember, only 4 words) about the Ukraine.

To requote your diss:

Hey pal....Despite your 50 plus years of experience and your self-professed superior "discerning eye", you don't even know what you don't know.

Comparing what you wrote versus what I wrote, along with my proof that what I wrote is true, demonstrates you to be a fool.

In fact, it appears you support the Russian invasion of the Ukraine:

my wife's friend and her relatives in Donetsk are in fact angry at Putin for ... not ending their misery with a full-scale invasion by the Russian army.

What does your sob story have to do with what I wrote? Remember, all I said was "Russia did invade Ukraine". I couldn't care less about anything but the actual invasion, even if the majority of Crimeans crave to become part of Russia. (Why they want this is a mystery to me. After all, the typical Russian take-over of other countries or territories is the exact opposite of benign-ness. Brutalies and pograms seem to ensue. For proof, please see all of Russian history).

In totalitarian states with no freedom headed by brutal dictators like Putin of Russia, I guess you can get by with arguing the way you did; ie, vapidly. Here in the US, we still respect rationality and logic. If you're going to continue posting on ZH, do us a favor and adopt the ethos of the host country.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 23:51 | 5597930 malek
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 Now that propaganda is the norm -- and it is -- everybody does propaganda

I see you didn't exempt yourself.

Russia did invade Ukraine.

...but this is a bit too blatant to have any chance to catch, isn't it?

 

Sun, 12/28/2014 - 13:26 | 5598987 livefreediefree
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I can distinguish between facts and propaganda. Can you?

Fri, 01/02/2015 - 04:02 | 5614084 malek
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Yes, as I already pointed out.

I find your attempt on propaganda to be poorly conceived.

Sun, 12/28/2014 - 00:12 | 5597988 OldPhart
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You are mistaken, good sir.

We, the US, prompted a coup in Ukraine...all else that followed was Russia protecting it's people and interests.  We, the US, lied our asses off.

Sun, 12/28/2014 - 13:32 | 5599002 livefreediefree
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Who the fuck cares? For whatever reason, did Russia invade Ukraine? You can make all the excuses you want why Russia invaded Ukraine, and I won't care. I don't care why Russia invaded Ukraine. What I care about is that the fucking Ruddkys on the site won't acknowledge the blatantly obvious fact that Russia invaded Ukraine.

I suppose I lack the empathy required to understand what living under a totalitarian dictatorial state does to its citizens. As a quick supposal, it seems to suspend their rationality, and their ability to think logically. But, again, I lack the empathy to know for sure.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:16 | 5596212 escapeefromOZ
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  So true . When society disapproves of certain ideas or certain truth , that idea is ridiculed , a ridicolous explanation is found , or the person involved is declared mad , his job is sabotaged , his friends and relatives are offered money to betray this  person . It has been like this for centuries , probably all of this started with the church 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:09 | 5596221 yogibear
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Joseph Goebbels was an amateur compared to Wall Street and the Obama admin.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:19 | 5596444 Sturm und Drang
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But an inspiration none the less.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:18 | 5596260 madjakk
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Actually, I believe that Edward Louis Bernays was the pioneer of mass psychology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:30 | 5596300 lakecity55
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I found two places a few years ago where you could download Bernays for free. They are probably still available.

I still have a .pdf of his main book on another isolated drive around here somewhere.

Another cool thing I found out was to find older history books, like HG Wells, etc where there are different ideas. Also, there is plenty of stuff in the older books you cannot read today.

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:12 | 5596415 americanspirit
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Lakecity55 - excellent observation. If you go to http://www.archive.org you can find freely downloadable .pdf files of just about every book that has ever been printed (and is out of copyright). Books all the way back to the 1500s. I use this monumental website all the time. The true test of the final phase of government takedown will be when archive.org disappears. That would be about the time that the government was also closing all the libraries, shutting the schools, and turning off the internet. For the children.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 20:14 | 5597404 bitterwolf
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Pioneers of propaganda...Augustus....... Machiavelli....Francis bacon...Shakespheare.....ALL Popes...Gengis Khan....Ceasar etc...et al

Sun, 12/28/2014 - 01:23 | 5598139 delacroix
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the libraries have already been strip mined

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:27 | 5596289 lakecity55
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TPTB in the West will have to manipulate POP (Public Opinion & Propaganda) to try and paint the loss of dollar hedgemony on Russia and China.

Perhaps they will switch the meme to "Russia is selling its oil cheap to wipe out the US Oil Independence. The PRC is assisting them!"

"The PRC is setting up ways to get rid of the Dollar!"
"Yuan-swap" facility becomes daily term in MSM!"

Hopefully enough will wake up to see you cannot export your currency w/o producing anything.

This is going to get nasty-er.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:27 | 5596294 Counterpunch
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Much of propaganda is not even distortion, but complete failure to cover an issue.  When the media, all at once, stopped covering the increasing violence in Eastern Ukraine, you can bet that this was because the mercenaries and irregulars tasked with ethnic cleansing and murdering ethnic Russians did not make a good narrative about a "good, democratic" West and an evil Russia.

Certainly one may not talk about the fact that the top three slots in Kiev's putsch regime are held by people who are of mostly Jewish background - no small trick in a country that is less than 1% Jewish.

 -  President Petro Poroshenko  -  Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk  -  Chairman of Parliament Volodymyr Groysman

{wiki doesn't list Yats as Jewish, but that is his predominant ethnic background, and Poroshenko is a little bit of a question mark, but articles in the Israeli press have supported widespreasd claims he is of Jewish extraction - along with many or most of the oligarchs.  And of course, the neocons.

As it happens, the other two prominent names for PM floated around last year, Tymoshenko and Klitschenko are of significant Jewish background, their professed religions notwithstanding.  That seems to be worthy of at least some note, but it gets rare mention, as did the fact Victoria Nuland and the US Ambassador to Ukraine were both also Jewish, the former married to one of the most prominent Israel Firster, anti-Russian neocons in the world.

Relevant to the story as tensions between Ukrainian nationalists and Jews goes back decades, to the Bolshevik {not "Russian"} revolution, which was in essence carried out in tandem, also largely by Jews, in Ukraine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sholom_Schwartzbard

The "pogroms" which Sholom sought revenge for, of course indefensible as murder of innocents and collective punishment, came about because Jews were largely acting against Ukrainian nationalistic goals, and trying to form a communist state with or within Russia, where the violent Bolshevik revolutuion, regardless of the white-washed version Wikipedia gives you, which was very largely led by Jews until Stalin's purges - which did not "target" Jews but killed so many because.... wait for it.... so many Jews, though under 8% or so of the population, were in positions of power.

 

The disporoportionately large Jewish role in American news media ownership, management, and influence is so obvious as to not merit the effort of going through the list.  Ditto for entertainment media, Hollywood, where people like Joel Stein, Ben Stein, and "Manny Friedman" have all written articles explicitly declaring that Hollywood is Jewish run, and essentially taking pride in the fact, even to the point of an ethnic supremacism.

But if you wrote such an article, you'd be smeared as an "anti-Semite."

 

If you think bombing schools and hospitals in a war zone, even if a rocket may have been fired near one at some point, is a war crime - it's not enough that you just have a very, prima facie, reasonable opinion, you have to be an "anti-Semite."

 

The result is - there are no major movies about the Nakba, or the plight of the Palestinians, and those few stars who have spoken up are smeared all over the press as... you know what.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/gaza-strip-conflict-why-hollywood-...

http://www.iiprc.org/palestine--israel-and-the-news-media.html

 

The Jewish owned Times, sends Jews with deep ties to Israel {e.g. kids in the IDF} and reports on Gaza from West Jerusalem, where talk about the Arab menace and goyim presumably flows.

But to suggest that this builds in bias, like sending the likes of Martin Indyk and other Zionist Jews to "negotiate" on behalf of the United States - the smear is employed, the same smear that, mostly, prevents any such discussion to begin with.   To cover the Occupation at all fairly, as in documentary form, requires "daring."

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2014/02/10/3939266.htm

Why does it need to be "daring" unless the Jewish/Zionist Lobby is international, powerful in Australia nearly as much as the UK, and Canada and United States - where groups like AIPAC and the ADL essentially have a chokehold on foreign policy.

 

In France, it is much the same. 

Alan Soral about the french AIPAC called CRIF

 

The point is, one can't talk about propaganda without talking about who owns the means of production of that propaganda, and about what those means are engineered to prevent discussion.

There was nothing more obvious than the fact the "neocons" who were cheerleading the Iraq war the hardest and most ubiquitously were Zionist Jews.  There was simply no question about it - yet it was forbidden to discuss, although Thom Friedman did dare to state the obvious in one column - even he was smeared, but if he had not been Jewish himself, he no doubt would have lost his job.  Sure there were Woolseys and other Christian Zionists, but the cabal set up in the Office of Special Plans were right wing Zionist Jews who wanted to fabricate a justification to attack Iraq - for Greater Israel.

 

"Anti-Semite" does get fairly applied, and legitimate anti-semitism, as with any form of group hate, is indefensible.  It's also logically invalid - you can not judge an individual based on a nagative expectation bias re the "group". 

 

But the term is also a propagandistic - meant to stop discussion.    Not merely about Jewish Privilege and Power - but about Israel's spying, occupation, nuclear and chemical weapons, frequent aggressions, support for terror, interference in US politics, etc. etc.

http://www.wired.com/2012/04/shady-companies-nsa/all/

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data...

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/snowden-document-implies-nsa-may-...

Naturally, any discussion of Jewish influence and power will invite accusations or hints, often 'cute' of anti-Jewish hate, and that is simply inevitable.  Here and there one should note that it doesn't mean "all" Jews any more than 'the Americans dropped nuclear bombs on Japan meant all Americans - it is a contingent limitation of language. 

But when news media is so largely owned and managed [or otherwise afraid of the wrath of] a particular ethnic and religious minority, many of whom have strong loyalty or affinity with a small foreign country, and many of whom have a heightened sense of ethnic/religious identity as against the remaining 97% of the population - who are likely 99.8% of the lives at risk in these neocon-demanded wars - it is fair to point it out.

And it is fair to point out that it is unfair that people are too protective of Jewish Privilege, or too chickenshit, to point out that privilege just because someone will inevitably call you a name - "anti-Semite" - which mostly now means someone who criticizes Israeli war crimes and/or disproportionate Jewish political, financial, and media power relative to the rest of the population as a whole.

 

The Jewish and neocon role in Ukraine and Russia is a large part of the story left out in the cold by means of the propaganda of absence - naturally, a largely Jewish/Zionist controlled press is reluctant to discuss that control, or the Jewishness of top levels of Ukraine's government, or the oligarchs who stole Russian wealth under Yeltsin, and whose ouster by Putin set him up immediately as a target for the propaganda machine.

 

 

 

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:26 | 5596637 Consuelo
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The Wolfowitz Doctrine.

 

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:18 | 5596782 falconflight
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You will submit.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 18:42 | 5597239 Counterpunch
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that is highly, highly unlikely, Mr. Flight.

And the demiurge shall be overthrown and cast into the unlight from which it came.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:28 | 5596296 YHC-FTSE
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What an excellent article. There's really not a lot I can add to it except to say that just a few short years ago many would have interpreted a comparison of the msm to Goebbel's propaganda machine an attempt at humour or hyperbole. These days most would consider that an understated analogy.

As a Brit, I loathe complaining about service. Stupid or not, it's a habit I'll probably carry to my grave. But the service I get from the BBC News (Which I bloody well fund, as a tax and license payer) has been so outrageously, ridiculously false and misleading that even someone as normally meek as I am have been forced to write to their editorial department on numerous occasions during the last few years. The last communication I sent to them was positively apoplectic because no matter how many times I asked, they would not tell me exactly which individuals comprise their editorial dept at BBC News. The simple act of revealing who controls their narrative is apparently a state secret at a public broadcating service.

There is a distinct pattern which is coordinated with the media and the military industrial complex. First they pick a country they want to bomb, then they demonise it, often in a repetitive sequence of associating a false narrative or negative connotatins with its leader or nation: For example, Iraq/Saddam and 9/11, Iraq/Saddam and WMDs; Libya/Gadaffi and oppression. Libya/Gadaffi and terrorism (Libya was described as "a model North African nation" by a UN report just a few months before the msm carried the banner of Gaddafi's oppressive regime); Syria/Assad and oppression, Syria/Assad and chemical weapons. Now, it's Putin/Russia and Ukraine. Putin/Russia and MH17. See what I mean? A very simple and distinct pattern of complete and utter bullshit to promote war, the most insane and abhorrent activity known to man.

What galls me every time is the complete news blackout on what the warmongers are doing in our name. The civilian death tolls of drone strikes. The bi-monthly airstrikes carried out by Israel on its neighbours, its longest military occupation in modern history, the theft of Palestinian lands and oppression of their people. The weapons, funds and training given to terrorists (SFA, ISIS, ISIL) in Jordan, Syria & Iraq. The two billion dollars a day spent by the Pentagon. The list is exhausting and it's not something I store in my head to recall at will. Actually, I'll end my post here because even though I want to finish my sentence on a high, hopeful note about how citizen journalism is changing the face of the internet and having an effect on policies, the truth is rather more depressing. We live in desperate times. TPTB are desperate to get away with the biggest theft of wealth in human history and the rest of us are desperate to be free from this dark blanket of lies.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:51 | 5596713 cherry picker
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"What galls me every time is the complete news blackout on what the warmongers are doing in our name. The civilian death tolls of drone strikes."

I saw a headline on Yahoo yesterday that NATO bombed 31 sites in Iraq against ISIS.  I didn't read it.  It was written as if it was something to be proud of, who knows if they hit or missed targets, if children or innocent adults were maimed or murdered.  The guilty don't have to be 'Terrorists' anymore.  'Suspected Insurgent' is enough to be targeted.  Whether the target is truly an evil person or not, no one will ever know.

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:39 | 5596321 estebanDido
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It's easy to flow with the stream, until it dries.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:57 | 5596334 Emergency Ward
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From "Good Will Hunting"--

 

WILL: .... you dropped a hundred and fifty grand on an [Ivy League] education you coulda' picked up for a dollar fifty in late charges at the Public Library.

CLARK: But I will have a degree, and you'll be serving my kids fries at a drive through on our way to a skiing trip.

WILL: Maybe. But at least I won't be a prick.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:46 | 5596345 Moribundus
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Apart from Hitler himself, perhaps the most fascinating figure of Third Reich Germany is the regime's chief publicist and spokesman, Joseph Goebbels. He is widely portrayed as a master of lies and deceitful propaganda. But this familiar image, which is particularly entrenched in the United States, is itself a propaganda falsehood.

http://www.ihr.org/other/goebbels2011weber.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2882208/PETER-HITCHENS-Forget-...

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:49 | 5596358 q99x2
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"The courage of these people is hard to gauge for us today"

The Chinese are going to go Nazi against the western banking families and oligarchs. Lots of time to be a hero helping them.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:02 | 5596378 TradingTroll
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  1. Does the writer understand the GDP calculation?  That govt spending is included? If the USA had 100% unemployment and 100% on food stamps it could still print a 5% growth by increasing got stimulus by 5%.
Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:59 | 5596381 q99x2
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I read this article a second time and I still can't tell what gender the author is.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:10 | 5596406 localizer
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"The general population doesn’t know what’s happening, and it doesn’t even know that it doesn’t know."

Noam Chomsky

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:17 | 5596437 kwatinhu
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Wow, make my head spin, the first time I heard of Bernays was on Glen Beck's radio show, he never went as far as Anne Frank, at least while I was listening, but I think he has woke a lot of people up to the bull crap that is being fed to them by the MSM. So on the greater good for that,but noticed he's kind of changed his tone here lately, some body whispering in his ear?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:12 | 5596766 MrButtoMcFarty
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Wouldn't want to wake up dead would you?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:24 | 5596453 Sturm und Drang
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To borrow a semi-contemporary phrase, it's a propagandapalooza.

 

Enough to make an old Fascist maudlin.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:30 | 5596477 philosophers bone
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Nothing will beat 2001.  

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:30 | 5596478 philosophers bone
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Nothing will beat 2001.  

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:30 | 5596479 philosophers bone
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Nothing will beat 2001.  

Sun, 12/28/2014 - 00:20 | 5598006 OldPhart
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Stutter much?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:34 | 5596485 GRDguy
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“Children must be taught how to think, not what to think.” -- Margaret Mead

That includes "adult" children, too.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:42 | 5596510 FredFlintstone
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You are quoting the author of the "Coming of Age in Samoa"?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:26 | 5596638 shovelhead
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Hehe.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 16:34 | 5596966 Mi Naem
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I think Mead was not advocating the training of more sophisticated minds, she was advocating a more sophisticated training of mindlessness. 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:38 | 5596500 kchrisc
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Don't teach them what is going on, teach them why what is going on.

The people need to be taught, and embrace the fact that the go0vernmnet is criminal, and owned and controlled by the Zionist banksters. I.e. the governmnet is acting as the farm manger for the banksters who are stealing their wealth and taking it offshore, leaving them destitute and tenants in their own country.

The banksters need to repay us.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:31 | 5596508 cherry picker
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Yeah, I remember well about a month before the Iraq invasion.  I knew Saddam was no threat to the USA and when I voiced it and why, these so called patriots to what I do not know, looked upon me as traitor.

Years later no evidence of the WMDs they used as excuse to bomb the place appeared.

While the patriots looked at me as traitor, I realized I was in a no win situation.  You cannot argue with fools and win.  They have to find out the hard way, unfortunately it cost lives on both sides.

I think the Constitution has something in there about assumed innocent until proved guilty. I don't know, it is not my Constitution. 

I knew one thing for sure, Colin Powell a man I once respected, lied when making that presentation under orders, he knew it and I knew he knew it.

Bush and Cheney and all the rest including Obama and those who support them have a lot to answer for, in this life or the next.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:00 | 5596521 Peltast
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Propaganda was actually invented by Freud's nephew Edward Bernays while working for the Wodrow Wilson (Who was a Puppet of the jewish Banker Bernard Baruch) administration but the sheeple like to mention Goebbels because he was a Notzi.

Everything written in the Protocols has happened, Media, Banks, Finance and even the Churchs are in the hands of our kosher friends.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:05 | 5596573 kchrisc
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As a friend of mine has said, "If the Protocols are fake, am I supposed to ignore the real things coming about that were predicted?!"

The banksters need to repay us.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 18:47 | 5597252 Counterpunch
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Jewish Money and Economic Influence: the Historical Context

Ultimately, it is not about the 'who' but the 'what' of international, private central banking. 


Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:34 | 5596654 cherry picker
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Propaganda has been around since the beginning.  Religions, countries and indviduals have lied to influence people.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 18:46 | 5597254 Keyboard Kommando
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And always crawling in the shadows is the Satanic tribe, like the human cockroaches they are! America's REAL enemies are in Tel Aviv and their puppets in Mexico City! Not to mention the ones who hide in the shadows in DC and Europe!

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:49 | 5596531 alexmark2013
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POLL: Feeling optimistic for '15...  Holiday sales show steady growth...  GRUNWALD: Everything is awesome! http://investmentwatchblog.com/poll-feeling-optimistic-for-15-holiday-sales-show-steady-growth-grunwald-everything-is-awesome/
Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:51 | 5596539 Jack Burton
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Christmas gave me an oppotunity to check in with family and friends that I don't see much during the year. I pay careful attention to their opnions and dinner table talk and evening chat over wine or a card game. Sadly, I can confirm the effect of real propaganda on people's minds, obviously the media, TV, News Papers and Magazines have made a deep impact in what people think. The amount of "free thinking" or "fact checking" I found among people was minimal at best. I mean if CNN says it, these people believe it is real fact and of importance, because CNN would not report it if it was not imporatant.

I was shocked at how few investors I talked with even go on line and read alternative media and economics blogs, instead, they go to mainstream investor sites who have an agenda, and a fully part of the "elite ruling class economics media". They look for investment tips in CNBC and Bloomberg among others.

I left the Christmas season badly shaken. People believe the entire anti Russian propaganda message, have know idea about what goes on in Kiev, or in Eastern Europe for that matter. They feel Israel if fighting for it's life and for all our futures as western peoples. Somehow propaganda surrounding Israel has mad them the good guy who rides in and fights for all our freedom and security. Nobody knew Al-Qaeda was supported by Washington, or that Kiev Junta was using Nazi Legions to control the population of Ukraine.  Washington supporting Nazi's never entered their minds.

If I had to grade Washington DC, the economic 1%'ers and Israel for their propaganda effectiveness over people's minds, I give them a 93% effectiveness rating over controlling what Americans think is true and what to believe. Also, few people even know about the real economy, the manipulation of markets, the corruption of congress, the lies of Obama, or the rise of war mongering inside the pentagon. Lastly, nobody, I mean nobody,I meet, care a bit about NSA total spying on everyone all the time. It's this they think "If you are a good American, you should be proud government knows all about you and how patriotic you are. Only those with something to hide would object to Washington listening to every phone call, email and tracking every key stroke on computers." 

Clueless dupes, believe media.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:19 | 5596616 kchrisc
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I use the very obviously fake Sandy Hoax, and Boston "boom," to try to reach some of mine.

My fav is the CNN "live" clip they obviously had queued up showing the thugs running into a different school,

I also show how the Sandy Hook school parking lot was ful of only unmarked police cars all parked nice and neat like.

Can't usually wake 'em up, but sure can drop a big load between their ears.

The banksters need to repay us.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:39 | 5596669 lakecity55
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Without Chroma-Key and the ability to overlay images on the video signal, their propaganda would not work as well.

Always remember if Joe Reporter says he's "on-site" he may only be standing on a set with B-Roll footage superimposed behind him. Add in some SFX and you have "Reporting Live via Satellite!"

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:40 | 5596847 kchrisc
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Yeah, my fav is propagandist Anderson Cooper "interviewing" one of the crisis-actors after the supposed funeral for her son. Parts of his face keep disappearing, indicating that they are actually in a studio, and NOT at a cemetery or funeral that she supposedly just attended. LOL

Many others have noted that supposed video at the firehouse has the wrong perspective with respect to things in the background, and therefore is also a green-screen insert--the stuff was filmed at some other time.

The same videos also have thug cars lined up behind the firehouse in a manner that is not seen in the helicopter shots.

And here is Alexander O'Neal to give his take on Sandy Hoax:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJUmUWW4Lv0

The banksters need to repay us.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 18:32 | 5597195 lakecity55
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I remember that well; there was a bad transition area; happens with interference from shadows, etc. You have to use what's called a 'key' light to blank out shadow. Just a little off and you can see the chroma transition.

That guy Cooper should be ashamed he did that.

There is also now a device I saw in prototype version back about 88 in Salt Lake City. It later matured and provided the technical ability to make Forrest Gump, where they added Forrest seamlessly into historical settings. Digital video was just passing the theory-to-device state back then.

The early digital pick up chips (vs tube cameras) had a linear imperfection and aliasing, where a bright light would go straight up and down on the chip. You can see that today in cheaper chips, or chips that did not make the cut and were used in cheaper devices. If I remember right, the aliasing- where you would see a moving line below a high-contrast area- was also eventually fixed. I think it was due to saturation of the chip and it just shifted the alias line to the next video line.

Original US TV was 525 line scan but not all of the lines were used. Once digital came in, the horizontal sweep rate went way up to like 900 Hz vs 525 so that's how you get hi-def TV. Your computers use this higher scan rate also.

Anything video can be easily fake now. You have to be very careful about anything you are seeing on TV.

When I saw the prototype, I freaked out, knowing a malevolent entity could use the device to create 100% fake newsreels.

Once you moved from analog 525 TV to Digital, you could mix up the bits/bytes and add anything to the formula you want.

Hence Forrest "appears" with LBJ.

Having worked in video application theory for 35 years, I would have to say "buyer beware!"

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 18:50 | 5597259 Counterpunch
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The two brothers may have been patsies, but there is no question at all that a number of people suffered very real injuries - and it is not hard to find that out.  You'd also have to believe that dozens and dozens of doctors and nurses and cops and runners and local news channels and reporters were all in on it - absurd.

So, all else aside, when I see people claiming that it was all fake actors and such in the Boston bombing - I have to assume they are too lazy to fact check, or are disinfo agents tasked with "poisoning the well."

No idea about SH - but find it hard to believe you can fake the deaths of a couple dozen kids in a small town...  beggars belief.

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:35 | 5596657 lakecity55
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I had the same discussions with a lot of my family at Xmas.

After I spoke my piece, one of my daughters said "Gee, thanks for the bummer, Dad. The other one said "Well, we'll be coming here, Dad."

My reply was that in all consideration, I had made preparations so I was not going to mope about, but I was not going to candy-coat the Truth. We should still live our lives as happy as possible.

I noticed, however, that everyone clung to their silver gifts I had passed out. Later, my brother-in-law asked me where he could get Ag back in his town up the road.

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 17:23 | 5596998 anticultist
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I once got an email reply from my sister, she didnt agree with me and dont send her anymore "opinions".

 

Which what I am talking about is citing actual factual events, factual events are called opinions to them.

 

At first I got all sorts of madison avenue tag lines from them. Occasionally they sent me some liberal propoganda,

after a couple that I did read out of respect to the sender, nearly puking, they all have the same frequency cadence

and parse' grammar,

then I listened to one of their utubes my wacko liberal family sent me from naomi klein, it was there the same speech

cadence. I then heard that they are using certain mind control frequencies, that is the cadence that made me puke.

 

But you cant tell these people anything, it is nothing for their propoganda aparatus to tell them an orange is an apple,

their overlord will always be justified.

 

The distinction I make is when faced with extinction, all the leading republicans abandoned

the neocon occult boy bush 2nd term, and sought answers.

 

contrast to the current occult death wish, stockholm syndrome.

 

Im pretty sure they only learn by dying, that is the soul reincarnation, and they are getting plenty of dying out of their occult

overlords. 

The other thing that is the case with ignorance which I think is the age, lessons, and experience of the soul, they think their nothingness is all there is. And I see it in work around simple technical 

realities and natural law, they have some misbeliefs formed as excuses for their ignorance along the way, that got repeated so long it manifests in tribal knowledge,

and when you break that down with scientific evidence, they dont like it, and they wont like you, for disturbing their superstitions, dont want to learn or change.

Most will come around and are basically good souls, but first reaction to reality is always

shock and denial.

 

And that was a matter of non-secular scientific fact, imagine how they act when it is liberal religiousity involved.

And that gets into the liberal death cult, they think their soul ignorance is the benchmark that all other intelligence needs to be destroyed down to their lowest denominator, by their demonocracy statutes, down to their primative existance. Like in their communism, all students get C's and all the children get a turn at the game ball.

So you can see how the tri-obolisk occult formed, declaring all souls incompetent at "berth", the holy sea, but of course they may have formed such a system with better intentions, such that christian law did intend to allow each to pursue happiness and freedom to their own capability, of course totally corruptible from day one, but I guess I do see how they formed

such as system being overwhelmed by ignorance all around me. The masons may have been armed with universal truth and knowledge, may have began benevolently formed around ancient

knowledge, but of course still totally corruptible to the likes of skull and bones, bilderberg, rhodes scholars. Secret societies are easily and totally corruptible, but mostly enabled by taxation and printing money. 

 

That may be the universal truth known by the dejour consitution, printing and taxation enables the secret society genocides. All the genius was in there. Obliterated by the Union

satanist reconstruction ammendments right before the genocided off the Originee and coming for the W2 tax slaves next.

 

But now I am begin to understand where these origins of these control systems, it was the disparity of ignorance, and certainly all spirituality and universal truth is now blocked out of 

federali de-education, so now ignorance is institutionalized by design, easily corruptible.

Because it is all degrees of ignorance where some are more adamant to cling to death and few are willing to evolve, they got the control system they deserve.

 

This was the JFK secret societies speech and still dont get it.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YafZkjiMpjU


Stock·holm syn·drome noun  
  1. feelings of trust or affection felt in certain cases of kidnapping or hostage-taking by a victim toward a captor.


Guaranteed national income was just introduced in Switzerland, all are C students, souls may not grow to their fullest potential for freedom and happiness. Satanism.

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of "a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 16:54 | 5597016 steelrules
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Jack, I find that even the most deluded and statist people have a place deep down in the pit of their stomach that tells them something is seriously wrong.

I have also found these same people are either too busy with their own lives or just don't want to know because they "Can't handle the truth".

It has always amazed me there are people that can live their lives but never ask why things are the way they are, I suppose these are the same people that need leaders, they always have and always will.

I have for the last 10 years tried to open the eyes of those around me with little sucess beyond planting a seed of doubt. I have also come to the conclusion I will not waste anymore of my time on these people, they are beyond help. As in the words of Rockefeller to Aaron Russo " what do you care about the people, worry about your own" so my preparations for what's coming have become my focus and to hell with the rest.

 

 

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 17:20 | 5597079 Shitgum Suicide
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the us supported the northern alliance who were not al Qaeda. We helped them fight who???? That's right the Soviet Union / Russians or whatever they call themselves century after century. There are the same thing they've always been.
A people who believe in taking power and controlling people using propaganda and brute force in all it's forms just like all dictators before them including the ones who infect our government.
Russia has subverted in every aspect of every country around the globe. They do not offer liberty. The USA has tried to. But those that wish to tear down this country do so through discrediting and debauching every aspect of good.
Talk about clueless dupes who believe media. Whatever kind of media you believe. Knowledge of all of the history helps to focus the entire picture not just the picture one wishes to see.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:02 | 5596568 talisman
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["if anything defines 2014 for me, it’s the advent of incessant claims for which no proof – apparently – needs to be provided"]
What are you talking about??.....Facebook provides plenty enough proof.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:03 | 5596569 jo6pac
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By Raúl Ilargi Meijer of The Automatic Earth

 

Thanks and we all know that it's only going to get worse.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:08 | 5596585 EemieMeanieMinieMoe
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They OWN you... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ it's irrelevant what's said, THEY OWN YOU!!!

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:07 | 5596592 Loophole
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The leftist media really plays blacks. It's ALL narrative. Facts are totally irrelevant. "Hands up, don't shoot." At least I'm willing to admit that, not having been there, I don't know what happened. Try having a rational discussion about it with most blacks. You may as well be talking to a wall.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:10 | 5596601 Oldrepublic
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I like to ask a four word question to people that I meet all over the world:

what happened on 9/11?

 

Then I listen.

 

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:15 | 5596612 palmereldritch
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The Fluoride poisoning certainly helps in this process.

Poison the body and the mind will follow....

http://www.globalresearch.ca/poison-is-treatment-the-campaign-to-fluorid...

The wide scale US acceptance of fluoride-related compounds in drinking water and a wide variety of consumer products over the past half century is a textbook case of social engineering orchestrated by Sigmund Freud’s nephew and the “father of public relations” Edward L. Bernays. The episode is instructive, for it suggests the tremendous capacity of powerful interests to reshape the social environment, thereby prompting individuals to unwarily think and act in ways that are often harmful to themselves and their loved ones.

When the Committee to Protect Our Children’s Teeth was formed in 1957 only 5% of US water supplies were fluoridated. Following the massive public relations campaign that paved the way for fluoridating New York City’s water over 60% of water across the US was eventually fluoridated. At present over two-thirds of the US population drinks fluoridated water [19] with close to the entire population consuming fluoride through foods and beverages processed using such water. [20]

Today sodium fluoride per se is used in less than 10% of fluoridated water systems. In its place are the fluoride variants sodium silica fluoride or fluorisilic acid, more commonly known as silicofluorides (SIFs). In 2001 researchers found that SIFs may cause a higher absorption of lead in children and decrease cholinesterase, an enzyme necessary for the regulation of neurotransmitters. Neither the Environmental Protection Agency, the Food and Drug Administration, or any other regulatory agency to date has researched the long term internal effects of consuming fluorisilic acid, a by product of the phosphate fertilizer industry that is now the predominant stand-in for sodium fluoride given its relative low-cost.[22]

In a world made increasingly uncertain by government and corporate engineers of reality and consent, the bureaucratic and scientific class’ responsiveness to the public welfare is illusory. The case of water fluoridation provides a compelling example of a plan to deceive and propagandize the masses. A full decade before President Eisenhower’s warning of “a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions,” the fluoridation of America’s water supplies was already in full play with the hidden foreknowledge among those in high places that such a campaign would almost certainly lead to the endangerment of public health for many generations to come.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:19 | 5596621 VWAndy
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My hope for 2015 is to remove the rose colored glasses from as many as I can.

 Ask good questions. This just screws up that bs story fast. Basic/formal logic works very well. Drill a shill? 2014 was a good start. The truth won several times this year. Chemical attack in Syria completly debunked fast and it was not the only thing.

 Call them on the bs and the story just goes away. This thing they are trying to pull in NY with the cops is stagged and if enough of us call them on it they will drop it. Thats the thing if we call them on the lies right from the start they dont get to repete them long enough to make them fly. Each time we call bs they lose thier grip a little bit more.

 If I have had any success its been with good questions and basic logic. The truth dont need a coat of paint. Bad spelling and worser grammar dont matter at all. Content kicks ass. Notice the shills leave me alone for the most part because I will stick my dirty little crayon in every hole they got.

 This next year we pound um hard at every turn. Force them to debate us fairly as often as we can. Some of us will get hammered sure. But that will only prove to others that we were right.

 There are lots of examples of bs that dont fly as well as they use to. Left/Right for one only works on koolaid drinkers. Inflation is theft has made real gains recently. Gold is barter. These are huge steps in the right dirrection.

 Propaganda only works if we dont call BS.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:22 | 5596627 trader1
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http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/

... a common metaphor, shared by conservatives and liberals alike -- the Nation-as-Family metaphor, in which the nation is seen as a family, the government as a parent and the citizens as children ... 

... the nation-as-family metaphor as a precise mapping between the nation and the family: the homeland as home, the citizens as siblings, the government (or the head of government) as parent. The government’s duty is to citizens as a parent’s is to children: provide security (protect us); make laws (tell us what we can and cannot do); run the economy (make sure we have enough money and supplies); provide public schools (educate us).
...
It’s no accident that our political beliefs are structured by our idealizations of the family. Our earliest experience with being governed is in our families. Our parents “govern” us: They protect us, tell us what we can and cannot do, make sure we have enough money and supplies, educate us, and have us do our part in running the house.

So it is not at all surprising that many nations are metaphorically seen in terms of families: Mother Russia, Mother India, the Fatherland. In America, we have founding fathers, Daughters of the American Revolution, Uncle Sam, and we send our collective sons and daughters to war. In George Orwell’s dystopian novel 1984, the voice of the totalitarian state was called Big Brother.

As George Lakoff discussed at length in his 1996 book, Moral Politics, this metaphorical understanding of the nation-as-family directly informs our political worldview. Directly, but not consciously. As with other aspects of framing, the use of this metaphor lies below the level of consciousness.

(Security: Familyland, Fatherland, or Homeland?). This psychology is most often linked to the notion that only good parenting is done by government.

The father of American spin, of American public relations, and of American propaganda, wrote a book with the following words in the preface:

THE conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested,largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.

Our invisible governors are, in many cases, unaware of the identity of their fellow members in the inner cabinet.

They govern us by their qualities of natural leadership, their ability to supply needed ideas and by their key position in the social structure. Whatever attitude one chooses to take toward this condition, it remains a fact that in almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons — a trifling fraction of our hundred and twenty [now 320] million — who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind, who harness old social forces and contrive new ways to bind and guide the world.
...
It is the purpose of this book to explain the structure of the mechanism which controls the public mind, and to tell how it is manipulated by the special pleader who seeks to create public acceptance for a particular idea or commodity. It will attempt at the same time to find the due place in the modern democratic scheme for this new propaganda and to suggest its gradually evolving code of ethics and practice.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 21:54 | 5597635 ILLILLILLI
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Read the whole thing...plenty more good stuff where that came from:

 

http://www.whale.to/b/bernays.pdf

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:34 | 5596652 Joe Tierney
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Lorenzo St. Dubois (L.S.D.) as Adolf Hitler - "Where's my little Joe?  I need my little Joe......"

 

President-for-Life Buhroke WhoSane? Bojamma as modern Hitler - "Where's my little Joe?  I need my little Joe......"

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:45 | 5596696 litemine
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Many American Elitists made their money by breaking laws.....Smuggling booze, etc.

The BUSH family made money sell items to the NAZI's for the fuel additives in the V1/V2 rockets that were fired at Britain.Yet anouther BUSH will be Elected............Who are you going to blame? Take the fault for stupidity, it's your children that will suffer.

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