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Civil Asset Forfeiture: The Final Stage Of Collapse Of Empire
Submitted by Martin Armstrong via Armstrong Economics,
Only the Rich Can Afford to Keep Their Homes
Philadelphia prosecutors agreed last Thursday to halt efforts to seize the homes of two of the lead plaintiffs in a widely publicized federal suit challenging the city’s use of civil forfeiture laws in drug cases.
Philadelphia drops a Civil Asset Forfeiture case to prevent any court from ruling just seizing people’s property is unconstitutional. Phily.COM has reported the case of Christos Sourovelis and Doila Welch,who were both caught up in having their homes seized to pay police pensions when the police arrested a relative they claimed was dealing drugs on their properties. Today, you basically have to shun relatives and never pick up a hick-hiker in trouble for if they have any drugs, even marijuana, there goes your assets.
The prosecutors, only after these people has money for lawyers and the press got involved, moved for dismissal in Common Pleas Court. The prosecutor agreed to drop the cases against properties as long as both owners took “reasonable measures” to ensure no further drug crimes occurred there.
Here is the entire problem. Only the rich can win for it is your burden to fork-over huge legal fees. If you do not have the money for lawyers, there goes your property. This is what is desperately wrong in America. Any law passed becomes your burden to prove it is unconstitutional. They can actually pass the ancient right of kings under the Common Law since there is precedent known as Prima Noctum – first night. The governor, mayor, county freeholder, whoever, could “legally” claim the right to spend the first night in bed with any women getting married in their district. It would then become your burden to say – NO. That is uncivilized.
There is ABSOLUTELY nothing as it now stands for them to pass such a law. It is then the public’s burden to say no way and fight. This is seriously wrong within out legal system. This allows police to kill people randomly or to pull every person over on their way to work to see if they have all their identification. Whatever they do is OK because they do not FIRST have to go to some constitutional court and ask – is this law justified? Consequently, only the rich can defend the constitution. All others can pray – that’s about it.
This is the final stage of the collapse of the Roman Empire. When the state runs out of money, it historically attacks the people. In Rome, whole armies began sacking their own cities to get paid. The police are doing just that. Whatever they can confiscate goes to funding their own pensions. This is a national problem that will only get much worse going into 2020. We have NOBODY in Washington representing the people any more. It is all about them v the people. This is why we will see a rise in third-party activity for 2016.
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re: Prima Noctum
No reason to drag a perfectly reasonable law through the mud in order to illustrate a point, Marty.
In fact, it should be in Latin: "Prima nox", or "Ius primae noctis".
"Noctum" has no meaning in Latin.
Maybe not Latin, then.
"He Noctum up."..
The IRS has been confiscating citizens' property for over 100 years. Churches have been using spiritual extortion for centuries. Every city/town/county has been stealing citizens' property through property taxes forever. Everyone with a government "job" at any level is a parasite on the community - even after they "retire". And cops have been on the take since somebody first gave weapons and a badge to thugs and told them they were free to prey on the weak and defenseless.
<< Everyone with a government "job" at any level is a parasite >>
... and then you have the friggin corp Roaches on Wall Street screwing us from the other end same time ....
The Middle Class private sector has been almost completely annihilated ... even MSM reports this now...that's how bad/obvious/nefarious it is.
... parasites and roaches ... it's a torubling situation.
At the end of an empire the zombies / parasites reproduce so fast that the host cannot provide in the usual manner, thus resorting to legalized theft and extortion becomes their most desired method... until some group steps up and says "No"
If you think saying no doesn't upset them,,, just check out the frenzy usg scawawags risking nuclear war with Russia whom simply said "Nyet" No in any language is their MOST despised word,,, unless they're saying it... of course.
Hey you ... without Govt. who's going to protect you from those that don't "play by the rules"??
And if there aren't any to be found. Well they get conjured up pretty quick.
(Don't mention ISIS)
My friends ex-wife just picked up a hitch hiker in Texas. She got pulled over and the hiker had a pound of weed. SO they were all pretty fucked.
Why was she pulled over?
Maybe it was a good thing for you
1. Who picks up a hitch hiker anymore, especially Texas?
2. Is it remotely possible the friends ex-wife was being paid to pick up a mule?
3. Like someone else mentioned....why was she pulled over?
And that post right there is what's wrong with society today. Got pulled over? You must have been doing something wrong! Those popos would never make some shit up, or even get it wrong on occasion! In all interactions with the state, the state is right!
Fuck you and your assumptions.
I agree. But I'd still like to know what their excuse was for pulling her over.
Over the last several years I have seen roadblocks in WA, HI and the province of BC. They pull everyone over. You have to stop and answer questions.
To consider this legal, rational or proper law enforcement shows how far people have been brainwashed and remain ignorant about their rights. And save the argument about "public safety" for some other fool. Lets face it, most people in America are idiots and cowards now. They worship the State and the power and control they weild.
Visit Mexico sometime. Everyone to two hundred miles, just outside a large town, the Marines have checkpoints. You get out, answer questions, and they search the vehicle. SOP
Ditto here in california, this is very common.. any given holiday or sporting event and the cops set up roadblocks all over town and "dui screen" every single driver. Everyone has to stop and show papers.
Stay home, don't shop, don't attend sporting events and don't fly. The only pain they feel other than a 44 speeding thru is a loss of fiat. They'll scream like a greased pig.
Yes it's somewhat difficult but what's more important? Shopping for something not needed or the freedom of travel without flatliners ruining your day?
Did your friend win custody of the kids?
Thats about the only way a man can win in Texas when it comes to custody at divorce.
Updated by Max Fisher on December 26, 2014, 1:30 p.m. ET @Max_Fisher max@vox.com
What in the hell is Vladimir Putin up to? It's perhaps one of the most important and salient questions of 2014. Russia-watchers and Russians have spent much of the year debating what's behind Putin's adventurism in Ukraine, his meddling in eastern Europe's Baltic states, his support for anti-American dictators like Syria's Bashar al-Assad and North Korea's Kim Jong Un, and the headaches he is generally causing Western leaders.
Mark Galeotti, a professor at New York University who studies Russia, suggested an answer: Putin is remaking Russia from a former world power into a geopolitical racketeer. Galeotti is not the first person to suggest this theory, which is gaining traction even among Russia experts who tend to be more sympathetic to Moscow, but he put it awfully succinctly in a great interview with the Swiss-based International Relations and Security Network.
Galeotti made his point when asked how Russia's role as an international actor had evolved since the end of the Cold War (I've added line breaks and bold for emphasis):
The problem that Putin was trying to solve is this: when he came into office in 2000, Russia had sunk from its former status as a global power to a disgraced, weakened, shell of itself. The world was dominated by the West, Russia's former enemy and rival. How was Russia going to find its place, and its former glory, in that world? At first, Putin tried to make Russia part of the Western-dominated world, buddying up with Western leaders (remember his friendship with George W. Bush?) and joining into international organizations. Russia was going to make the new system work for it.
That didn't work out. Putin still saw central and eastern Europe as a contest ground for Western versus Russian influence — not totally without reason, as new countries joined NATO — which led into the old dynamic of competition. Crises in the Caucasus and the former Yugoslavia became points of tension. But Putin couldn't win them outright; Russia was just not strong enough anymore, and in any case seemed to always pick the losing side. Putin's great power ambitions were just not going to happen.
So he tried something else. If Russia couldn't maintain geopolitical relevance on its merits, it would force itself onto the world stage by acting as a spoiler to the great powers of the West, mucking up their plans until they had no choice but to acknowledge Russia's influence.
When Western powers pressured Iran to curb its nuclear program, Russia built Iran a nuclear reactor. When Western powers weighed bombing Syria to punish Assad for mass-murdering civilians, Putin handed Assad air defense weapons and installed some Russian sailors at a Syrian port to act as human shields. When Edward Snowden released American secrets, Putin welcomed him into Russia and then maneuvered him into staying. When North Korea allegedly hacked Sony Pictures, Putin invited Kim Jong Un to Moscow.
Partly this is about pride — Putin asserting Russia as relevant and important any way he can, even if just by trolling Western powers — but partly it's also about strategically preserving the last shreds of global Russian influence and interests. Still, as Galeotti notes, this a strategy that works in the short-term but is a long-term loser. Every time Putin acts as a geopolitical spoiler or racketeer, he's spending away some of the international stature and credibility that Russia has accrued over centuries of actual power and influence. He's making himself, and Russia, more distrusted and isolated. His solution for Russian weakness is to make it even weaker.
President Obama hinted at this, subtly but acidly, when he referred to Russia as a "regional power" in response to a journalist's question this summer about the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The line wasn't just an insult of Putin — although it was certainly that — but a summation of the inevitable end result of Putin's use and misuse of Russian power.
"Its main tactic . . . is not to fix problems, nor even to build coalitions, but to create problems in the hope that this grinds down the will of the other party or parties until they decide that making some kind of deal . . . is the least-worse option."
Oh wait! I though this was exactly the tactic of the "Empire of Chaos" aka USA...
@Amerikan Patriot you work even weekends I see
the fucken pay must be real good. How is your conscience doing ?you see, down the road you will realize it has no price , sleep well and tight until then
The days of "MOAR" are numbered
It's a big club and you ain't in it BITCHEZ
He's too dumb to be a paid troll.
He does it for fun.
And 'Max Fisher'! Another troll, but one we haven't seen here for a long time.
Maybe he is Max? Sounds like him.
"Oh wait! I though this was exactly the tactic of the "Empire of Chaos" aka USA..."
Yes, and Russia had so much work to do to get those deals with China. How hard it must have been to grind Beijing down so that their deals were the least-worse option.
I am realling beginning to believe that you have downs.
Give it up Parrot.
You can't see the wood for the trees.
Pax Americana has already failed at the strategic level, while yu keep looking at tactical skirmishes.
Hope you get your 40 pieces of silver every month,you're going to need them, you are a traitor
to the country you claim to love.
"... the Russian invasion of Ukraine."
Idiot or liar and probably both.
That is about the most incomplete analysis I have read. Ever.
Foreign policy needs to be left to thoughtful people that have the primary characteristic of being slow to react. Frothy, myopic and ignorant shouldn't play in that space.
Which leaves out Kerry, Biden, McCain, and everyone practicing "foreign policy" in DC these days.
Amerikan Patriot
Your analyze is extremely distorted. Quoting an Ivy League professor from New York is a total joke.
Also, US track-record on the Middle East is even more toxic.
What the US is trying to avoid is the union between Europe and Asia through Russia.
That will be the death sentence to the Petrodollar, thus disastrous outcome to US financials and US private and public debt.
Bye bye American $1million dollars homes. Bye bye $60 thousand dollars teacher’s salaries.
Bye bye retirement.
The petrodollar is already dead.The low oil price killed it.
SWIFT is about to die.
The eurasian alliance has neutralized the MIC.
Checkmate, all bar the crying, but probably the screaming.
Did I miss something?
Or is this a "dead man walking" kind of observation, where the dead man might walk another 10 years or so?
Not arguing, but looking for more insight as to your summation.
Regards,
Cooter
They are the three legs of the stool that held up US hegemony.
At the moment its being balanced on only one.Control of SWIFT, and thereby trade settlement.
The direct yuan ruble exchange will cut that last leg.That is an unofficial announcement that the SWIFT
alternate is up, and running.
The US is about to fall on its arse, long before ten years roll by.Days or months maybe.
WWIII is the only thing that might delay it.
Actually, the one most important thing that keeps the Hegemon up is US Navy.
As long as the USN controls the seas, the hegemon will more or less control the world, the day it vanishes the hegemon will fade.
All empires failed at the moment they neglected their naval supremacy, many historical more-or-less convincing reasons for that, nevertheless it seems a solid constant.
Of course, as Winston said, I dont see this empire of war failing in a peaceful manner, not at all.
Let me know how the USN will do at interdiction of the Silk roads.
I'm all ears.
The game has completely changed ,I'm not even sure DC has noticed.
I cannot explain the minutiae of the naval supremacy on the rest of the world in this fairly abbreviated forum, but the historical facts remain.
Of course, if China and Russia enter a solid and enduring strategical alliance the effects of enemy navies will be heavily attenuated.
Why do you think the British Empire was so consumed with eurasia.
Because the RN would be neutalized if eurasia ever banded together, something that was supposed to
be the point of the Wolfervitz doctrine ,and Kissingers grand chessboard.
The neocons took their eye off the ball, and have been sucker punched for their trouble.
Its over, the USN is as much use as a boat in a bathtub now, between land transits and the new
generation of anti ship weapons, its scrap metal.
China will control the seas around its trading neighbors, and dare the USN to come into a killing zone.
It worked for Britain for over a century (post the Battle of Trafalgar). However, in those "good old days" there was no such thing as air capability, let alone space capability. Whether we like it or not, most capital ships are pretty slow moving, and provide a pretty "barn door sized" radar target (that's before we consider all the EM radiation they radiate via comms. and radars (Nav, Target acquisition / tracking / fire control).
Antishipping weapons are compact, stealthy, and fast (if need be, though the Russians have certainly trialled torpedoes that can "loiter", thus confusing subsurface threat assessment systems), and it takes very little effort to develop "swarm" decoy systems that exactly mimic "live" weapons, as far as radar (even multifrequency radar) is concerned, so swamping CIWS based defensive systems.
In any "modern" era naval engagement, the only "ships" that may have a survival advantage will be the submarine variety, and even they will be vigorously hunted, because of their perceived threat. It is VERY unlikely that the missile boats of any Navy out there will be able to launch all their SLBMs - once the first ones leave the tubes, the location of the target becomes VERY Clear, and that tends to be a terminal event . . . .
(However, the Russians HAVE demionstrated that "salvo-launch" is certainly possible - "Operation Behemoth-2" - all 16 missiles launched in just under 4 minutes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Behemoth , but 4 minutes is a long time when torpedoes are heading your way . . . . . .)
You are aware that the "Silk Road" that you speak of is in great part, by majority of routes that it's made up of, travelled by sea?
As for the remaining parts that aren't, I suggest you look to the skies...
The new one thru' Turkey avoids that problem.
Silf roads is a generic term,not the historic land transits.
There will be nothing from the skys.We are not talking sand jockeys, which
the US still can't beat, but properly armed opponents, that will counterattack as well.
Its you that should look at an atlas,not me.I have travelled these routes.
... as have I, by sea, which is why they're properly termed "routes" and not "roads" but you knew that
I love how the USA is supposed to be lurking under every rock yet, at the same time, they will "never have control over XYZ therefore game over for the USA"... heard a lot of this talk about Russia and chess playing before oil prices got pushed through the floor, now Russia has a run rate of 3 years on their reserves, gee how did that happen all the sudden... I thought the USA could be so easily curtailed, guess not... and dammit, you know and I know the same thing goes for these supposedly proof-against-USA neo "Silk Roads"...
there may indeed be an unwind coming but anyone who thinks it's going to happen fast is kidding themselves... the Russians are "too nuclear to fail" and they're a rounding error next to the USA economy, what do you think the USA is going to be when it unwinds? easy pickings? think again...
Cooter: "Did I miss something?"
Do you think it is possible that American Patriot is actually in the Russian intelligence apparatus, and works for Putin?
He certainly does a good job of making Zio-neo-cons look bad.
One word: Nuland
Cockbloc is the name of the game dude. Gorbachov forgot and gave up the Union in exchange for a promise that NATO would not recruit them. we all knew what happened next. Ukraine was the last straw. All through history, guys with asshole opinions (like yours) have underestimated the Russians. These are not a bunch of towelheads in pickup trucks and we can't even beat those guys. you are probably be yelling USA USA while mushroom clouds appear on the horizon.
Great "cut and paste" job AP.
@Amerikan. "When Edward Snowden released American secrets, Putin welcomed him into Russia and then maneuvered him into staying."
You've got to hand it to Putin, it was diabolically clever to maneuver Snowden into staying in Russia by getting the yanks to cancel his passport so he couldn't travel to Latin America as planned.
Amerikan Patriot: So wrong and so pathetic a comment.
Russia has had a port in Syria since the fifties-Tartarus (I was there in 2008) -its only Meditteranean port and very strategic; nothing new. Syrair has been a Russian client for arms for 60 years. So , yes, Putin wants to maintain it, defend it. As well, Syria landblocks Qatar and SA's natural gas pipe line to Europe which rob Rusia of their gas monopoly if Russia, Iran didn't support the Syrian state..
Catherine the Great finally secured Crimea for Russia (wrested it from the Ottoman Empire) in 1783 and is critical for Russia as a port. It was never Ukraines', it was given to Ukraine in 57 from Krushev (sorry spelling) as he was a native son and never thought Ukraine would not be Russias'. The Crimea is strategic for Russia.
Finally, the illusion that Russia was beaten in the Cold war , that is maintained by the MSM West is a myth. Both Gorbachev and Yeltsin were counting on losing the republics as it was too hard, too expensive for Russia to keep the Empire. All the real resource assets are in Russia not the republics. It took 20 years for russia to become strong again once it had jettisoned the blood suking periphery. The US now has the problem that Russia had; their Empire is too expensive, too unwieldly.
These are not my thoughst please refer to "The Last Empire" by Serhii Plokhy
Oudinot, today you are making sense.
Up vote from me.
Thanks.
Even a broken clock is right once in a while.....
"... the illusion that Russia was beaten in the Cold war"
illusion my ass...
the Warsaw Pact / Eastern Bloc breaks away, the USSR gets dissolved after coup attempts, etc. and you come in here claiming that the USSR losing the Cold War was an "illusion"???
that's some serious revisionist history you have going on there, amigo... I'd guess what the color of the sky is in your world but I'm afraid I'd get "red" as the answer...
Putin is a piece of work just like the rest of the world mafia.
Keep your head down. Just look at the floor, hope you aren’t picked.
Gonna need a Bigger Magna Carta.
Gonna need a bigger Tree of Liberty.
Gonna need a bigger guillotine.
For these fat-heads.
Sometimes I think I can't read, only to realize upon further scrutiny that the author can't write.
The courts won't do anything. Judges have pensions, too.
How bad do Americans want it changed?!!!
True story...
Visited friends in Manhattan yesterday afternoon with a trip to do the worst thing possible two days after Christmas. Continuing the consumerist high of shopping taking the religious pilgrimage to be humbled by Rockefeller Center...
If any of you were down there you know what I'm talking about.
Thousands upon thousands of lemmings on 49-50 Street and Avenue of the Americas literally at a standstill, north, south, east and west converging on each other to stand under a tree unable to move! By far the most claustrophobic experience I've ever had and the most depressing eyesore to be apart of. Parents brining infants and little ones that were getting pushed in all directions crying hysterically to find "space"!
And for what?...
To spend money they don't have and to be something they think they want to be but can't?...
At least the experience gave you insight into the origins and progression of the coming calamity.
Every day is Christmas!!
That sounds like a straight guy going into a gay bar and then complaining that there were gays everywhere.
Going to then zoo and complaining about the animal shit smell.
I like this meme.
Getting bad tasting food and complaining that the portions are small.
Ordering a gimlet and complaining it's too strong.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2014/09/06/stop-and-seize/
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/american-shakedown-police-won-t-charge-you-...
Police has been confiscating over $2.5 billion since 2001 and 1.7 billion of which has been used by the PD.
Nobody was charged for any crime during the confiscation.
This is the USA now.
Yes. A Criminal UNITED STATES, CORP. INC Fraud entity operating in plain view.
Highwaymen used to be considered robbers and thieves. Now they are uniformed representatives of the state.
ARE you fucken serious ??? WTF is this crazy law, And they call it the land of the free?????
The days of "MOAR" are numbered
It's a big club and you ain't in it BITCHEZ
Prima Noctum or Droit de Seigneur is a Victorian sex fantasy. There is no evidence the practise ever existed. It certainly was never a "law".
Actually it existed pre-1789 in France, and yes it wasnt a law but a feodal custom, one of many redevances that serf had to his lord.As every feodal redevance it was payment-tranferable, meaning you could acquit your redevance in other manner, generally fiduciary or in nature.
In this particular case the husband of the married woman that does not wished for her to be taken into the bed of his lord on their wedding night, had to pay a Bibarou, which is a pot containing a sort of sugary cake( very little in term of real worth).
There was even a term for jealous husbands in the regions of this custom; Payeur de bibarou (One that paid the Bibarou).
solution: marry an ugly broad.
NOBODY in Washington representing the people any more.
What about the Supreme Court? /s
A Supreme Court Justice voting NO (against the state's position), after ensuring that it is the minority position in a case like this, will vote next month to grab your property and give it to Walmart. There's your protection!
S&W 627 8 shot .357. Pack it & shot them in the face if threatened.
If you have adult children living with you who partake of illegal substances, then know that if they arrange to purchase anything from a phone in your house, then that is grounds to have your house seized.
Also, if you are carrying a 'large amount' of cash with you in a car, and that car gets pulled over and searched, the cash will be seized on suspicion that it was being used to buy drugs. It's up to you to PROVE in court that the cash was not meant for drugs.
I have read several incredible articles on this very thing. Having driven home with several thousand dollars cash in the car after visiting casino's I could only imagine my rage if it was seized by some smiling dickhead cop and then I was forced to prove innocence to get it back. As a coat and tie WASPy white guy that would send me over the revolutionary edge.
This is one of my pet issues as I am a guy who drives all the time for sales. It is the plethora of speed traps and remote devices to generate revenue that I see everywhere. There are no studies showing they improve safety, there is no judgment in them like a human, and you cannot possibly match the microsecond settings and measurements on the electronics. Speed traps even with humans are generally just a revenue machine. If there was no money in it you would rarely see them and most people would get a very reasonable warning. Cops...100% of whom speed and break every traffic law known give each other a pass. The end result is this progression in my mind.
Making the law a game when it should not be leads to cynicism. Cynisim over time leads to corruption. Corruption when it is done openly is oppression.
The civil asset forfeiture laws are horrendous just on the face of them. What make them worse and this article does not cover is that the money is pretty much free money to the local PD. They buy new Keurig coffee makers, new SWAT gear and can even get pay bonuses. Short of that is just enriches the local PD treasuries. The incentives are too much and they require an absolute trampling of our civil rights, especially the 4th Amendment.
We get what we tolerate and to be honest it takes too much effort to fight city hall on everything from property taxes to red light cameras. The thought became very real as I drove home in heavy snow and ice Christmas night and the red light cameras were flashing everywhere as people tried to judges slides, stopping distances, lane lines buried under the snow, etc. I just hoped there was a rational person in the city who invalidated all of them on those days. We will see as it may have flashed me sliding up to the corner.
I will join anyone and donate to anyone who wants to dismember this permission-surveillance-police state we are building.
There are few places where assets are even moderately secure. A hole in the ground seems maybe better than a storage unit, a 'safe' deposit box, or a safe in your hone or vehicle. Hug your loved ones and plan your best route through the storm.
this exactly why i am on the side of protesters, even though i have more in common with the police......i know they will eventually go after who still has assets......THEY ARE A GANG OF THUGS ..... forget 2016 or 2020 , they must be stopped NOW !!
This asset forfeiture is small potatoes. If you live in an area that assesses a tax on your personal property (cars, home, etc.) then you are merely renting your property from the government. One of the few bona fide purposes of a government is to protect life, liberty, and property. Unconstitutional property taxes negate the latter of the three, and more people lose their property every year due to non-payment of unconstitutional property taxes.
spell check, its not just for D&D.
DE`basement:`a'"Billon"-mentality' 2.0?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billon_(alloy)
Up my FAFSA Yellen MuthaFukka
" Quite simply, it’s about People vs. Power, that’s it, nothing more. Those that have and wield institutional power, and those that do not. It’s as elementary and base as that I’m afraid."
"Take a good look around, I defy you to point to a single socioeconomic construct in our supposedly enlightened and advanced society of today which is not essentially determined by that crude polarizing characterization. Whether it be our bought and paid for Political Class, our rapacious Banking Sector, our entitled Multinational Corporations, our entrenched Governmental Agencies, our marauding Military Industrial Complex, our fleecing Healthcare Providers, our muzzled Free Press, our hijacked Justice System, or our grossly overpaid CEOs, Athletes, and Entertainers, they all have one thing in common, and I assure you that it’s not the common good that they share. What they seek above all else is to expand the existing institutional dominion and their own privileges within it."
http://zirpqe.wordpress.com/the-cradle-of-democracy-should-defy-the-auto...
3 short clips I watched today - interesting and worth a listen before feeling offended by the titles/descriptors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLqHv0xgOlc
Feminists and other leftists are useful idiots who serve only to destabilise the society. When the goal is reached, they will be "lined up against the wall".
1984 interview with a former KGB agent and Soviet diplomat, Yuri Bezmenov.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_sGn6PdmIo
Thomas Sowell Dismantles Feminism and Racialism in Under 5 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_1329823817&featur...
Thomas Sowell vs Big Govt and the Welfare State, 2:34 min
Common sense wins
FUCKING AWESOME!!!!
I talked with Soviet Defector, Yuri Maltsev who speaks for the Von Mises institute. He noted the same thing. Once the hard line socialists take over the first people they jail and kill are the butterfly and rainbow socialists. The reason is that when they see the real end game they are most likely to revolt against it.
The following is unfolding about 20 miles from me. Barricaded gunman. The radio interviewed a woman who lives in the neighborhood. The police took over her home while she was at work early this morning. She’s s.o.l. The police have snipers crawling in the lady’s house. LOL
Whitmore Lake residents asked to remain inside due to barricaded situation
http://www.heritage.com/articles/2014/12/28/ann_arbor_journal/news/doc54...
s.o.l.
sorry, what does that stand for?
SOL = Shit, out of luck
Hey, it happened during that Boston Marathon bombing. Cops making a doormat out of due process.
Meh. At least they sometimes get it right in Burleson County, Texas:
http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/Man-Charged-With-Killing-Burleson-Cou...
shit outta luck
dah!! I shoulda worked that one out ;) What an extremely crappy Xmas she's having.
That was a favorite of my old man.
The Celente video w/AJ is great!
"Civil Asset Forfeiture" is pillage, which is a war crime.
I see treason. I am Witness One
The banksters need to repay us.
punishment by process - really ramping up these days
innocent until proven guilty, but it will cost you one fucking helluva lot
this has been going on for decades, don't pay your property tax, the biggest funding of public-sector unions salary, benifits, and pensions, guess where your property goes, a tax auction, is that legal.
the only good thing will be these public-sector union employees will be out in the streets with us some day, whats that expression about deer in the headlights, it's for the children.
they go from the 1%ers, to 99%ers fodder imediately, when shtf.
Give up and let them take what they want, or rise up and stack the bodies high like cordwood for all to see and take heed.
This system is very old. I ran across it myself years ago when studying the Russian history of the 1800's. Serfdom was abolished in 1866, if I remember right. The serfs were granted land rights and many freedoms to own property. The rich former serf owners were not pleased. All across Russia, local councils passed laws, or ignored laws and began to seize the peasants property. Since peasants now had rights to court hearings of their cases, in theory the former serfs could win their land rights back in court. The laws freeing serfs were really just a fucking piece of paper, local lords stole it all back and then forced poor peasants to go to local courts to win their land rights issued by the Czar. Of course, local courts were packed with the 1%'s, the local lord's friends and relations. Local courts began to charge heavy fees to applicants, fees peasants could not pay, but local lords could pay. In cases were peasants raised the rquired fees and filed their land cases, the local lord friendly courts, delayed the cases through administrative means for years, even decades, till the pesants died, or moved on.
Simply put, the freeing of serfs was meant to create a free class of land owning small farmers in Russia, in effect, the large estates retained most of the land, and stole that land given to serfs upon their being set free. The result was a large class of farm laborers, and landless pesants. Only a tiny fraction avoided land loss and prospered as small farmers.
One trick of the landowners was to use jewish money lenders, who were in the lords pockets, to get urge peasants to borrow money to buy farm equipment and such things, the jewish money lenders wrote clauses into loans that raised interest rates after the initial low rates, most pesants could not read, and trusted the jewish money lenders. The land was then taken to cover the unpayable loan, and went from the Jews to the Large Land Owners in a profitable sale for both.
Why do I love history? Because you can learn a lot form it. Nothing is really NEW, it has all happened before. The great hate of Jews by Ukrainian and Russian peasant classes stem from these money lenders. Before 1866, most every large land owning lord employed several Jews, one to keep books, one to oversee the serf's work and obligations to the lords. Thus the lord's Jew was the one who squeezed every last Kopek out of the serfs, and squeezed every last drop of sweat out of the serf's labor to make their employer's rich. Again, this is the source of Jew hate amoung the Ukrianian and Russia peasant classes.
There are MANY reasons Jews are the most hated people in history. Especially today!
Interesting, thanks Jack Burton. I am buying the book on my other screen ($1.49). Now I have also got a pretty good idea where 'Jack Burton' is from, the source of his few but consistent English unevennesses; the source of the tone (and English missteps) of the news pieces on ZH; and ZH itself. Not that I will think any less of this excellent site, nor visit any less regularly.
Jack lets not forget about the bolsheviks (jews) mass murdering of russian peoples The ruskies have alot of reasons for hating the jew. I myself am one German who awaits all of their deaths starting at the top of the rat nest (banking ,gov etc,) and then ferreting them out across the globe. I'm not an advocate of genocide for any other race with the exception of the jew, I also don't believe in "evil" but had I to put a label on the jew "evil" would about sum it up.
There is no difference between zionism and jewery , A rose by any other name
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S10Aotp_tvo <----- For those who have not seen yet Ken O'Keefe has a few words on the jew
SUB MOA I know where you can find some jews take a look in Israel.
I'm sure they will be happy to service your Sub self with some golan heights lead up your ass
boo hoo did I hurt your feelins lol fuck_wad yes you are
Really an eye opener, and that fully explains the Outspoken Polish peasant to one Jewish Documetary maker from Polish ancestry when he was told that the Poles could never sell their Geese at even the cost price as the Jewish traders conspired out of interest to not purchase the geese.
The same is tried on the Latin Americans , in Brasil in Particular with the soya beens. And soon to be followed in Greece.
Lets see if the Greeks will take it in the arse.
The Greeks were rebeling since time begun.
Even through Byzantine times, let alone Turkish occupation with some of the elite been former Byzantine Princes theat joined the occupiers..
No to forget the Venitians were disgruntled Byzantine Aristocrats, that wanted moar for themselves.
I am waiting for the Greeks to vent their Anger at the money changers, I hope they won't take prisoners.
Roman armies did not sack their own cities to get paid. This author has no idea of the decline of the Roman Empire; the procees took 250 years in , a very, very gradual process.
Mostly it was rapacious taxation, exclusion of the aristocracy from taxation, senatorial families killing themselves off in feuds, the stagnation of the economy, as well as the introduction of Christianity which was antithetical to martial Roman tradition.
Indeed! " The End of the Ancient World" by Ferdinand Lot , printed in 1931. Is a detailed history of how Rome's world declined and ended. It is a tale of corruption run wild. The elite's were made tax exempt for one thing. This book is also an economic history of Rome's decline, one of the very best books every written on the End of the Roman World Empire.
Thanks, I have been looking for such a book.
"author has no idea of the decline of... (fill in the blank)"
It is Armstrong Williams, after all. Whad'ja spect?
the only reason it took so long was the snail pace of information and communication means. it does not take near the same time today. britain collapsed in two generations. the usa is on the second generation now.
Don't forget demographic decline. Rome was at one point a city of 1 million squeezed into seven hills. By the "official end point" of the Empire, which was probably over a century after everyone knew it was terminally ill, its population was 500 stragglers, later reduced to 0 during a war.
The Romans did not possess the silicon chip. I suspect our decline will be a bit more hasty.
By the way, this is another reason to hate cops. Cops are well paid, get all the health benefits, retirement at 50 and long vacations, sick days etc. etc. All the things me and other normal people do not get! In return, they serve the 1% as their most loyal enforcers of repressive laws that beat down the people into near slaves to the state and the 1% who own the state.
I knew retired cop in Jersey. He retired at 43 and knew every trick in the book for maximizing his pension. He got promoted to chief his last year on the job, held the position long enough to get the 'chief' retirement package (1 year), then 'injured' himself on the job to get 'disability' status. He retired with a 120k/year pension, great medical plan, transfer of his pension to his wife should she outlive him, and it was all TAX FREE. If a cop retires because of an on-the-job injury that keeps him from peforming his duties, he doesn't have to pay tax. You'd be amazed at what qualifies as a job-impacting injury (a jammed thumb, for example).
Taxes on a modest 1400 sq ft house in the town where this cop served are often over 12k/year.
And this guy was a leader and promoted to chief. Wow.
There was a line of guys waiting for 'chief' position, ordered by seniority. Although he was only 43, he was a third generation cop in this town and the seniority of his predecessors was taken into consideration.
The chief position wasn't there to lead, it was there as a cherry on top of a career. If a guy had lower seniority, they could keep working past retirement age to wait their turn. Some guys had waited 4 and 5 years already and wanted their shot, others didn't want to wait and retired. The town hadn't had a chief serve longer than two years in the past few decades.
My acquintance considered staying on for a second year to make some changes to the department (by 'changes' he meant negotiating additional benefits from the township), but the guys behind him in line for promotion pressured him to retire. They wanted their opportunity. He was incredulous because the rest of the dept couldn't understand that keeping him around for another year would enhance their benefits. All they could see, he explained, was him holding up the line.
Another benefit he got--a discount on his township taxes. Instead of paying 12 to 14k a year on his house, he paid something like 3.8k/year. At 43, he was retired with three houses and 120k/year tax-free pension.
Oh, and he got a stack of PBA (Police Benevolent Association) cards to hand out to family and friends. Up in NJ/NY, they are like a 'get out of jail free' pass. If you get pulled over, hand the card to the cop along with your license/reg/ins and he'll let you go. Most cops would only get one or two a year, as chief he got as many as he wanted.
Unfucking believable. This has got to end. After the reset can't be any worse than the injustice that exists today.
It drove me out of the northeast. I returned to the South where it's not so bad yet. It will likely happen here in the next decade if the big reset doesn't occur.
What made the situation even more rediculous is the township was safer than almost anywhere else in the country. There was no crime. Occasionally, a car would get stolen on Main st or a house would get broken into. When these instances occurred it would make the local news. In a township of 30,000 only 30 miles from Manhattan it's surprising the crime stats were well below the US average. It wasn't because of the police, either. It's the citizens--they weren't criminals.
But the citizens were sheep. They worshipped the po-po and public school teachers. There was nothing the po-po and teachers couldn't do. Every year there would be a budget shortfall and the township govt would rant and rave how tough things were. You'd think the fucking world was coming to an end and society was on the verge of chaos. Without fail they'd raise real estate taxes, and if there were pushback they'd reduce the rate of increase and make up the difference with traffic enforcement fines. One year, they bugeted for a $1.8 million increase in fines.
If a homeowner complained about their tax bill, the township would practice what they called 'the bad neighbor' policy. They'd send a team of appraisers out to evaluate all of your neighbors' properties and determine if your taxes were high relative to your neighbors. If they found anything to legitimize raising the neighbors' assessments (and they always would), they'd raise the neighbors' taxes and tell them it was because you triggered the 'bad neighbor' policy. In other words, the govt would intentionally jeopardize your reputation in the community in order to increase revenue.
The people would get annoyed but seldom took action (in fact, I never saw resistance of any sort in the 10 years I was there). The few that were really bothered might leave for the South, where they engage in building the same fucked up system they left.
I've concluded it's a lost cause any way it's cut. With the exception of a small minority, the concept of sovereign individuals and individual rights is completely lost from American culture. Govt is the modern state religion and speaking out against it is blastphemy. It's going to get worse before it gets better and it's going to take a new enlightenment to reverse the fascist trend.
That sounds like a racket. Quick, call the Authorities! Wait, never mind...
Write a letter to the Honorable Mr. Christie.
As a cloth-coat Republican, he'll soon put a stop to this sort of thing.
"(a jammed thumb, for example)."
Well, if it's your "gun thumb" it could have a severe impact on performing your duties, so there's that.
It's all bullshit. These guys know which injuries won't be questioned and how to describe them to the docs to get the necessary diagnosis. In fact, doctors sympathetic to 'the cause' were well known among the department. It's a racket pure and simple and it's not limited to Jersey.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_25826280/disability-retirements-...
http://watchdog.org/120938/disability-pension-abuse/
http://watchdog.org/104812/nj-diability-pensions/
http://www.wickedlocalspecials.com/pensions/
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/07/01/pensi...
The extent of this corruption is unfathomable and politicians have no interest in addressing it. It's one of govt's dirty secrets--everyone involved is incentivized to keep their mouths shut. Politicians want pensioner votes, pensioners want their benefits, doctors want patients that will let them rack up testing costs and keep their mouths shut about it, and none of them want the public to know about it.
When govt bitches about needing money for the children, it's bullshit. They need money to keep the pension ponzi going.
Most of these people are self-entitled SOBs that believe they are nouveau-aristocrats. What they really are is trailer trash that knows how to exploit entities with lots of money and poor management controls (govt entities). If they weren't salaried employees they'd be welfare recipients.
From a 2004 article...
CHP 'chief's disease' costing millions in payouts, pensions
http://www.utsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040911/news_1n11chp.html
I'm sure its' 10x worse today.
It is not the cops - it is the unions.
Communists invention loved by the left and government thieves.
I remember trade union workers beating the shit out of communists in Poland. Hmmmmm... and that car you drive made in America, Germany or Japan is union made... did you take the subway to work today.... yeah union... and I could go on and on.... :)
"I remember trade union workers beating the shit out of communists in Poland." Not uncommon for like philosophies to fight over the same prize.
There once was a place for unions to protect the common man from the abuse of monopolies but those days are long gone. Now unions abuse the common man as they demand ever larger paychecks and pensions.
Just because a vehicle is made by unions does not mean it is better or special, it is just what the communists has forced on to society via political graph. By the way 99% of all unions are subsidized by taxpayer dollars, that is money from another persons paycheck to pay this 'special' group of union members higher pay and larger pensions.
i could go on and on....
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I am ramping up my business a bit this year. Part of my business plan always includes legal fees. I doubled them in the plan for 2015-2017.
When government sniffs you have an exta penny to rob, be prepared to spend half that penny on lawyers to keep it. Plus many state governments encourage lawsuits by employees for gender bias, harrassment etc. where government gets multi-thousand fine and has motive to help employees win a case.
The local police don't bother with me much as I don't go out much and I ask them for a break pointing out I haven't been ticketed in 23 years. So far, it's worked every time. And if I was to have pot on me, it is never more than a joint which I could munch if needed in a hurry.
There was a guy that dealt great stuff that lived near me but when he told me he was dealing pounds I said our relationship was over. It is a police state here but being stupid multiplies the odds of getting whacked by it.
Every fucking year my state sends me a notice that I failed to pay my franchise tax 3 years prior. Evey year I send them a copy of the check and the return that went with it. I wonder how many business owners may not have kept proper records and just pay the damn tax again to get the govco types off their arse.
Courts are for profit corporations set up like banks. Police are their stooges. DA is lead crook.
Defend yourself with the rules of civil procedure for your state. These books are pretty cheap and of high value. How can you play a game if you don't know the rules?
Divest yourself of assets or put them under a corporate cloud/identity/life. You become a tenant to your own LLC.
Laws were written to enable corporations. Proof? Look at your state's rules on "foreign LLCs" and tell me those laws weren't written to benefit the corps. So...join them! Form LLCs and defend yourself.
And a hearty "fuck you" to FIG and Nationstain Mortgage LLC. Yeah, juvenile but feels good.
The spear of the State is the administrative enforcement regime, whether it's HUD or EPA, and at any level of government today. I can't legally remove moles or voles from my very rural property without expressed permission from the State of North Carolina. The lists of shalls and shall nots are nearly endless.
That is exactly why quiet violence is the answer. The only solution at this point is truly violence of action.
We own hundreds of thousands of acres of desert land bought for mining.
Long before any permitting we throw a couple dozen cats out there.
Later twenty to thirty chickens.
By the time we're ready to get permits there is absolutely no sign of life left in the area.
"This is why we will see a rise in third-party activity for 2016."
Naive, wishful thinking. OR, cynical, false opposition distraction.
For as long as TPTB retain virtually absolute control over the microphones and cameras that the vast majority pay attention to, and for as long as they retain control over the courts that will resolve any disputes in the process, and for as long as they count the votes, third parties will continue to be side shows for snarky human-interest news pieces and will generally held responsible for "stealing votes from the 'legitimate' parties".
AWilliams should be plenty old enough to know that.
That applies to US elections. Other countries have vote counting systems that might make alternative parties less susceptible to isolation or cooptation, but I'm not sure there's much evidence of that making any meaningful difference in governance.
This is how the administrative state rubs you out. Their legal bills would have been in the hundreds of thousands were it not for the Pacific Legal Foundation that represented the defendents. Don't know why Fox chose Not to identify them, since the defendant and PLF appeared on FNC. The EPA suffered no financial/budgetary harm for their loss. Just like only Gibson's Guitar are raped for a misapplied regulatory Shall Not.
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WASHINGTON – The Supreme Court has come forcefully down on the side of an Idaho couple in its fight against the Environmental Protection Agency,unanimously ruling Wednesday that the couple can challenge an EPA order to stop construction of their home on property designated a wetland.
Mike and Chantell Sackett bought their land near a scenic lake for $25,000, but when they decided to build a property there in 2007, the EPA ordered a halt, saying the Clean Water Act requires that wetlands not be disturbed without a permit.
They've been fighting for the right to challenge the decision in court for several years, and facing millions of dollars in fines over the land.
The couple complained there was no reasonable way to challenge the order, and noted they don't know why the EPA concluded there are wetlands on their lot, which is surrounded by a residential neighborhood with sewer lines and homes.
In an opinion written by Justice Antonin Scalia, the court ruled the EPA cannot impose fines that could be as much as $75,000 a day without giving property owners the ability to challenge its actions.
The ruling allows the couple to challenge the EPA head-on in court, but the real battle begins now. The case has brought attention to the EPA's reach. While the court only allowed a challenge to be brought, in a concurring opinion, Justice Samuel Alito noted that the law allowing EPA to demand compliance is overly broad.
"The reach of the Clean Water Act is notoriously unclear. Any piece of land that is wet at least part of the year is in danger of being classified by EPA employees as wetlands covered by the act, and according to the federal government, if property owners begin to construct a home on a lot that the agency thinks possesses the requisite wetness, the property owners are at the agency's mercy," Alito wrote.
"The court's decision provides a modest measure of relief," he added. "But the combination of the uncertain reach of the Clean Water Act and the draconian penalties imposed for the sort of violations alleged in this case still leaves most property owners with little practical alternative but to dance to the EPA's tune. Real relief requires Congress to do what it should have done in the first place: provide a reasonably clear rule regarding the reach of the Clean Water Act."
The couple, which termed the battle "David versus Goliath," has earned support from several lawmakers who want to reduce the grasp of the EPA on private property. Reps. Raul Labrador, R-Idaho, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., and Idaho Republican Sens. Mike Crapo and Jim Risch, all joined the Chantells and other couples in a forum last fall about limiting EPA authority.
Labrador congratulated the Sacketts after the ruling.
"The federal government is an intimidating force against ordinary citizens, and standing up to its bureaucracy requires extraordinary bravery. Thanks to the unwavering courage and selfless sacrifice of the Sacketts, Americans everywhere will be guaranteed the right to appeal a decision imposed by a government agency. Their victory also safeguards individual property rights against the encroachment of the federal government, a fundamental assurance of our Constitution," he said.
It will be a free-for-all outside the US as well. All US citizen owned foreign property can be easily seized. Nationalized as payment for US debt.
Only safe way to store precious metals is to own enough property with the owner not being in the US.
Wecome to the New World Order.
Who the hell proofread that story?
The lady from McDonalds who was short $.40
>>The prosecutors, only after these people has money for lawyers and the press got involved, moved for dismissal in Common Pleas Court <<
Poorly written piece. Isn't there an editor here at the Hedge anymore? For having to suffer all these ads we should at least get that.
I agree. The whole article was rife with Elementary School-like errors, poor sentence construction and spelling mistakes.
It appears to have been written by someone whose mother-tongue was certainly not English.