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Search For Disappeared Air Asia Flight Suspended: Summary Of The Facts So Far
About 12 hours after AirAsia flight QZ8501 with 162 people on board disappeared and lost all contact with Jakarta air traffic control at 6:17 am local time (11:17 pm GMT Saturday), the aircraft searching for any clue of what may happened to the second unexplained disappearance of an airplane flying in the region, have been called off due to nightfall even as ships will continue their search through the night. As Sky News reported, "Rescuers scouring the Java Sea have halted their search because it is getting dark, Indonesia's transport ministry said. Hadi Mustofa said: "We ended at 5:30 pm (1030 GMT) because it was getting dark. The weather was also not too good as it was getting really cloudy. "Tomorrow we will begin at 7 am, or even earlier than that if the weather is good."
For those who missed the coverage last night, here is what is known so far, via Reuters:
Indonesia AirAsia Flight QZ8501, an Airbus 320-200 carrying 155 passengers and seven crew, lost contact with Jakarta air traffic control at 6:17 a.m. (2317 GMT on Saturday). No distress signal had been sent, said Joko Muryo Atmodjo, an Indonesian transport ministry official.
On board were 155 Indonesians, three South Koreans and one each from Singapore, Malaysia and Britain, plus a French pilot, the airline said in a statement, correcting earlier information. Tatang Kurniadi, head of Indonesia's National Committee of Safety Transportation, expressed hope of locating the aircraft quickly and said it was too early to detect any of the so-called electronic pings from its black box recorder.
"We are using our capacity to search on sea and land. Hopefully we can find the location of the plane as soon as possible," he told a news conference."What I need to emphasize is until now, we have not found out how the plane fell or what kind of emergency it was."
Indonesia AirAsia is 49 percent owned by Malaysia-based budget carrier AirAsia (AIRA.KL), which has had a clean safety record since it began operating 13 years ago. The AirAsia group also has affiliates in Thailand, the Philippines and India. The aircraft had accumulated approximately 23,000 flight hours in some 13,600 flights, according to Airbus (AIR.PA).
The pilots of QZ8501 "was requesting deviation due to en-route weather before communication with the aircraft was lost," the airline said in a statement. Singapore, Malaysia, Britain, South Korea and Australia offered to help in the search and any investigation. Malaysia said it was sending vessels and a C130 aircraft while Singapore had also sent a C130. Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott said a P3 Orion aircraft was on standby if needed.
The suggested location of the disappearance is shown in the map below: Flight QZ8501 was between Tanjung Pandan on Indonesia's Belitung island and Pontianak, in West Kalimantan province on Borneo - almost halfway between Surabaya and Singapore - when it went missing. There was bad weather over Belitung at the time and the aircraft had been flying at 32,000 feet before asking to fly at 38,000 feet to avoid clouds.
While AirAsia chief Tony Fernandes said it is too early to say what happened to flight QZ8501 and every assistance must be given to the search and rescue effort some are thanking their lucky stars they avoided it in the last moment:
A man named Purnomo told TVOne in Surabaya of a lucky escape. "I should have been on the flight," he said. "We, seven people, had planned to go to Singapore for vacation but this morning I had an emergency. I had my passport in hand."
Tony Fernandes, chief of Malaysia's AirAsia, said he was heading to Surabaya. "My only thoughts are with the passengers and my crew. We put our hope in the SAR (search and rescue) operation and thank the Indonesia, Singapore and Malaysian governments," he said on Twitter.
Others were not so lucky:
Louise Sidharta was at Singapore's Changi Airport waiting for her fiancée to return from a family holiday. "It was supposed to be their last vacation before we got married," she said.
Some other known facts: the pilot of the missing plane had 20,000 hours of flying experience - 7,000 of which were with AirAsia. It has yet to be revealed if like the pilot of missing flight MH-370 he too had a flight simulator at home on which he was training landing at unexpected venues. As a reminder, 9 months later there is still no trace of the missing MH-370, which as we reported recently, a former airline CEO shocking claimed it was shot down by the US.
Below is the plane's full Flight Dispatch Release courtesy of Aviation Safety.
And the flight's Load and Trim Sheet:
That largely covers the facts. And now the unconfirmed speculation begins. According to a report in the Malaysian Insider, a family member claims receiving text message missing plane safe citing Indonesian news portal Detik.com
It reported from Surabaya that a family of a missing passenger received a glimmer of hope via a Blackberry Messenger (BBM) text. The portal quoted Intan, the sister of passenger Martinus Djomy as saying: "Kabarnya mendarat darurat di Belitung Timur, semua selamat. Tapi kita tetap butuh kepastian."
(We got word that that the plane made an emergency landing in Belitung Timur, everyone is safe. But we still need to be sure.)
Intan said she learned about this from a friend who sent her the text message via BBM. Her brother Martinus was travelling to Singapore with his wife, child and babysitter.
Detik.com reported that the piece of information was passed on to the authorities at the crisis centre in Juanda. The news portal added that unfortunately, there remains no confirmation from relevant authorities whether the information was accurate or otherwise.
In a separate story, Detik.com also quoted Nasional Search and Rescue Agency (Basarnas) Jakarta chief Sutrisno as saying that the agency's radar did not detect the flight's Emergency Locator Transmitter (ELT).
He said the ELT would go off if there was impact or if the plane had gone under water.
"If the plane landed smoothly on water, it wouldn't have gone off, unless the device was not working. It didn't go off so Basarnas doesn't know its position now," Detik quoted him as saying.
According to a separate and largely contradictory report from IBT, a loud bang was reportedly heard by fishermen over Belitung Island at around 07:00 to 08:00 in the morning, Indonesian news website Bangka Tribun News reported.
"There are fishermen who heard the explosion, but not yet certain. Its location is near the island of Jackfruit," a member of Tagana Beltm told the website.
The flight was reportedly over the Java Sea between Kalimantan and Java islands when it lost contact.
However, the fishermen could not ascertain the source of the explosion and assumed that the bang came from within a five-mile radius between Coconut Island and Bird Bath Beach, Damar. Belitung is an island on the east coast of Sumatra, Indonesia, in the Java Sea.
The fishermen who were at sea engaged in their regular fishing activities near Coconut Island also claim that the explosion was quite powerful.
Considering the numerous unconfirmed reports that sprung up in the aftermath of the MH-370 disappearance, this is only the beginning.
More on the missing flight as we see it.
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AP: Why on Earth is Russia censoring news on the Internet?
Who cares? You're not whining about Google censoring anything or Facebook, right? They censor all the time.
+100
If the United States restricted Internet content as overtly as Russia does, there'd be a massive Zero Hedge outcry!
But when Vlad censors Russian Internet, Zero Hedgers want to invite him into their homes and/or be one of the flacid and compliant who fall with a thud on his judo mat.
Is that hypocrisy, faulty Zero Hedger logic...or both?
Tsk-tsk....
Right.
US satellite probably shot some type of electronic death-ray at North Korea and missed!
Naahh, those sneaky NKoreans whipped out a mirror real quick, and deflected the death ray, thereby taking out the plane. NSA to shut down their routers for a while, again, to upload better sniffers.
Team America!
Fuck Yeah!
The Brit on the plane, seated with his daughter in First Class, was a top executive with Alstom Energy - the company that was just fined $700+ Million for overseas bribery, mostly in SE Asia.
From "The Guardian"
"According to a copy of the passenger manifest released to Indonesian media, Mr Choi and Zoe bought their tickets on Friday (Dec 26). According to the manifest, they were seated in the first row, in Seats 1B and 1C.
According to his LinkedIn account, Mr Choi was born at Hull in Yorkshire, England, and graduated from the University of Essex in 1988.
He was Unit Managing Director for Thermal Services at energy firm Alstom Power, a position he held since July this year. Prior to that, he was based in Singapore, where he was a senior executive at Alstom Grid, according to his LinkedIn profile."
Isn't it convenient for Alstom that somebody who no doubt had intimate knowledge of their criminal activity has just disappeared?
A clue to motive perhaps:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuala_Lumpur_War_Crimes_Commission
No worries, it'll show up in Ukraine next week in a ball o'flames!
First article should be: Russia FAIL!
Russia Is In Crisis And Putin Is Fighting To Survive It
http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-is-in-crisis-and-putin-is-fighting...
Russia's crisis has no end in sight as $50 oil looms, says OECD
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/oilprices/11309207/Russias-crisis-has...
Russian Airlines Are Taking A Major Hit From The Ruble Collapse
http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-ruble-fall-creates-turbulence-for-rus...
Russia's Economic Crisis: Can Putin Be Saved By His Own Propaganda?
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russias-economic-crisis-can-putin-be-s...
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Everything that revelas unpleasand facts about Russia is somehow related to zionism - yes?
You are not the smartes boy - aren't you?
"You are not the smartes boy - aren't you?"
LOL, says the one who cannot spell or put together a grammatically correct sentence.
I know my native language and 3 others: english, russian, german. And how many languages you have learned?
Doesn't matter, dude. Don't go calling someone stupid in a stupid way. It just made you look stupid, kwim?
Peace
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Summary of facts so far: If you are a non-nuclear armed country, don't try and convict the war-criminals of the Zionist west without expecting some kind of retribution.
http://rt.com/news/court-bush-blair-iraq-043/
The banksters need to repay us.
A Jackfruit fisherman heard a bang above his head. Ok
God damn, this is some fucked up shit. I feel for the families of the passengers & crew on board that plane.
Possibly an in-flight break-up after encountering a severe thunderstorm cell. The USAF had a four-engine KC-135 go into a severe cell several years ago and came out in pieces. If so in this case the explosion heard was most likely the wing spar failing. Normally aircraft are NOT dispatched with inoperative weather radar. That said the crew may have found themselves in the middle of rapidly forming cells with no way out.
Well, speaking to crashes, it now becomes the 101 ways to distract the nations people away from the purposely planned and crashed economy, with a dash of moar woarmongering to cover it all up.
CRASH2: The death of the Dollar + the demise of the euro…and other more important outcomes:
http://investmentwatchblog.com/crash2-the-death-of-the-dollar-the-demise...
I am still waiting for them to say they interviewed the wife of the pilot of MH370.
Ok....every time a plane disappears in the other side of the world, I know the media will not talk about anything else for at least a month. So while people are entertained with the headlines I will try to figure out what they are trying to cover up. And I bet just like the last time it is something from Russia.
Planes don't "disappear" a whole lot. Crash, sure. Disappear, no.
Something from Russia? Fuck no.
why does it seem off that a commercial plane could go "missing"?
aren't these things too valuable to lose track of, and don't the entities in the financial side of things (lenders/insurers) require tracking? even financed used cars will have a tracking device attached to assist with reposession.
and above all, there are the passengers, crew and their loved ones to keep in mind. The People. Their value is beyond measure. But if the cause will not be revealed to keep a corporate or military secret, so be it I guess.
I'm not a pilot, nor a meteorologist, but what is there to this story that would lead anyone to believe it is anything but a weather related incident? Sounds like the weather was bad and there were rapidly changing conditions - not good situation for flying, no?
Do these Asian airliners have the 'black boxes' on them?
Only that there is no distress signal, either from the pilots or the automated signal. And that there is no wreckage. They know its exact last position so intensive SAR should have found it easily. AF447 was found within 37 hours of lost contact in the middle of the Atlantic.
Another interesting 'coincidence':
https://www.intellihub.com/obama-golfs-malaysian-prime-minister-1-day-fl...
Yet another interesting 'coincidence'?
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/business/article/airasias-tony-fernan...
He needs to be questioned. Fast. It could be a coincidence but it's too close.
And another:
http://www.tunemoney.com/airasia-insure/
If anything, this sounds like a nice distraction to take eyes off something important that is actually happening. Combine that with the ziotrolls here makes one wonder what is really happening elsewhere.
"....it looks like a big Tylenol."
I do not know anything about this accident, but I never feel as safe flying in that part of the world as I do in Europe.
It is probably cultural bias on my part.
I just try to assume the pilot wants to stay alive as much as I do, which gets dicey when I fly in the middle east with Capt. Achmed.
One of my collegues flies to Singapore about every two weeks from Delhi. He uses an Indian carrier.
I searched AA using ixquick, they seem to have a good safety record.
When you look at those computer graphic maps on the intertubes, there are hundreds of planes all flying at the same time. I would assume a military would be tracking them, however. They would be visible from spy satellite orbit, also if the bird was tasked to that area.
I feel much safer on any of the large Asian carriers (and more comfortable too) than any of the US lgacy carriers. Now, as for the low cost carriers, I try to make sure I stick with Tiger Air for that. They are majority owned by Singapore Airlines and that's a good enough recommendation for me.
Still much safer than driving the Belt on any given weekend night...
I would be interested in seeing passenger lists of the last 3 downed aircraft.
Sometimes a blown up plane is just a blown up plane. The real "conspiracy" may be that these planes are, for the sake of profit:
1. Being made poorly.
2. Being maintained poorly.
3. Flown in such a manner that they are being overused or overextended somehow relative to what they were built to do.
4. Too dependent on too many automated features which actually need human input.
5. Piloted by under trained pilots.
6. Piloted by over worked pilots.
For extra credit conspiracy tin hat fun in Fight Club spirit:
7. Maybe they are sabotaging their own planes because they are close to bankruptcy any way so they want to collect some insurance money before they go under.
This other speculation is too bizarre and certainly too soon. But if we go there, I like the idea that aliens are hijacking them and sticking probes up them. The plane will return later with amnesia, a foggy memory of strange lights and an operating table, and a vague sense of being sexually assulted.
I may have some of my facts incorrect as I am going from memory, but in the last few years a jet crashed as the sensors for automated landings on the runway were turned off and the pilots were forced to land the plane manually. Neither the pilot or co pilot had enough hours or training in actually landing an airplane the old fashioned way.
I think you are correct. We are increasingly being replaced by robotica, but the machines do not possess what we mortals have.
" No one saw this coming ".....
[except for the people who knew what's in the cargo bin below, I bet]
hey its dark outside now and it looks like its going to rain so we'll wait several precious hours before looking (i.e., we already know its pointless)
So I'm able to pinpoint myself with my Iphone.....
but a Jet carrying people cannot be located?
Geesh, when does the Diego Air Museum have enough exhibits?
It was clearly the Russian in the library with the BUK battery...
Prolly this, or hopefully that, but maybe this, could be then, or really, who knows what is real anymoar in the unreal matrix of Chaos? If you saw it from the future, you would call it the empire of dust and get the simplified version of how and what killed off and sent extinct a supposedly advanced civilization. In about 1,000 years they might find a few remnants and permanent records in Stone that speak the simple truth, and about the fall of mankind. It might say, they failed to follow their own hearts.
Still, the charades and distractions go on and on and on and on. Like the terrifying droning sounds over Gaza. On and on and on as the snakes smile and glee in a particular evil that is only enjoyed by a certain kind of dark-reptilian-evil in the hearts. How they hide so well behind masks of cloaking. One that is sane can easily See the injustice and corruption of truth in the 3-d matrix of evil. Yet, it continues and no one really seems to do anything but to amplify the intensity of fear. Ask, why? Ask, who profits from distractionary fear propagation??
Let there be hope and prayers that this aircraft is found with all it's passengers alive, and safe. For this we ask to be so, and pray for to manifest. That's all.
Meanwhile, back in the jungle. The crash or something else to distract the nations sheeple from the planned to die dollar looms closer. Windows of numerological opportunities come and go. The ugly question is, which date of sacrifice will the luciferian/satanic disease choose to do there evil deeds on? Thankfully, we have just pass'ed a few, of the major dates they use for larger sacrifices. Lord knows how many young innocents died at the hands of these evil things that murder children to gain their life force energies, like the evil Skeckcies sucking the life force from the innocent Gelfling in the movie, Dark Crystal. Wanna see some esoterism, watch that movies again. The ending is the message. The mystics the teachers.
What every soul is coming around from out of the fog of war on the average minds, war on reason and sanity, is they are SEEING the truth but moar so, the worlds people are FEELING it in the heart place. There is no stopping the snowball coming dowwwwwwn the mountain and when it slams the bankster empire of chaos/dust, it will extinguish from the face of THIS PLANET all the wickedness they have created like a fire hose hitting the beast in the face of it's fiery burrows. So powerful will be the blasting whooosh, it will also put out the pilot lights of hell. The new satan/lucifer, same same, have already turned to the light and are now giving carte blanch to all the lightbrigaders to DO what is best IN THIS TIME to save the entire ship, and not the chose supremest few. Kinda like how Obie-1 and Darth Vader joined the force in the Star Wars Movies. Seeing from the future, of course.
Oh yes, there are quite many right-up forces unseen at Work as always and those who lose sight of this fact will only be surprised when they are reminded again, just before the last breath. Everybody knows, that it will be best to arrive before the scale of MA AT in the chamber of judgments with out a heavy heart. NO ONE escapes this final journey that reads this now. Choose well the path you take, for experience has shown that falling from the mountain top hurts!
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Sunday evening viewing:
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Shalom!
Facts so far
1. Saturn (Master of Death) = 9 (3x3)
2. Passengers? (Dead?) = 162 (1+6+2=9)
3. Some additional 3's of note -
*Plane Events - 3 (MH17, MH370, QZ8501)
*Malaysian Airlines Logo Tri-dent = 3
*Asia Airlines Logos - X & O: (Hint it doesn't mean hugs and kisses) ; X+O=3 (Don't think of it as Common Core Math think of it as LaGarde math)
*QZ8501 -> 17,26,8,5,0,1 = 1+7+2+6+8+5+0+1=30=3+0=3
Days past 11/26 (originally scheduled date) = 33
Spells are cast by repeating 3 times which is why there were 3 deadly plane events all involving Ukraine
Air Asia has just changed its circular logo from Red to Grey
Don't be surprised if they now change it to Green and claim it is in Honor of the Fallen
Because after red you're dead. At least until you rise from the dead at which point you Go Green!
And Green is the color of many a false flag since what? Sandy Hook? (Green Ribbon colored recent events Sandy Hook, Ebola, Cassidy Stay Shooting to name a few...)
That makes three Malaysian owned civilian airliners gone missing (2 missing and 1 shot down) what a coincidence?- Probably means nothing.
The Malaysian Premiere is summoned to play gulf with fascist Emperor Obama and leave his country during a catastrophic flood.-Another coincidence?- Probably means nothing.
This just in: we have the names of the flight crew-
Pilot: Sum Ting Wong
Co-pilot: We Tu Lo
Navigator: Ho Lee Fuk
If one were inclined to launch some stuff at somebody, it looks like a good place to do it from would be around Indonesia because apparently there are no satellites than can see anything going on down there. Ukraine, of course, would be the second choice, can't see shit there either.
Most interesting to me is the fact these two missing aircrafts occurred after China put its new nuclear powered submarine into the waters. Not that the Chinese did anything wrong, just that everyone else would be frantically tracking everything that moves in the Malaysian/Indonesian area. Somebody's just not telling folks what they've recorded. Even the WSJ reported that the sub moved through the Strait of Malacca waters, which isn't all that far from the current situation.