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First bitchez!
yeah...and the lower class is waiting in line to jump on the middle classes back with more taxes to subsidize their asses. It's ridiculous.
It wouldn't work any other way - the rich guy's back is to weak to support the middle class.
[Shrug]
The rich get richer
The poor get the picture
The bombs never hit you
When you're down so low
Some got pollution
Some revolution
There must be some solution
But I just don't know
Midnight Oil excerpt "Read About It"
It's a big club and you ain't in it BITCHEZ
Chosenite parasites
the solution... is the problem itself.
considering the inverted geometry, put a lion in the desert, with a cage, reverse geometry, the lion is now inside the cage.
just by the point of view about yourself in the 4D of the scene, you are the problem, or the solution.
for the rich = kill mid class, only poor to work and buy shit.
for the mid = need less tax, put labor on head of lazy poors,
for the poor = kill the rich / end the fed....
mid class do not give a fuck about the fed and finance, it is not how they manage their money.
poor do not understand nothing and go where the MSM say to go.
rich ?..... they laugh.
me ? hopf..... who care.... call me back in 10 years.
...in line to suck another dick!
-freddymercury
my neighbor's step-mother makes $68 hourly on the laptop . She has been out of work for 10 months but last month her pay check was $15196 just working on the laptop for a few hours. try here... www.works3.com
"It's all good!" In the Hamptons at least.
It's good if you are a government statistician who knows how to tow the party line and publish statistics favorable to the regime.
Forward (over the cliff)!
This aint 1 Cartoon man, this is fucking reality...Bitchez.
The guy labeled middle class should be labeled "Bitch(ez)." That's what the guy standing on him told me.
The guy on his hands and knees should be called the voters who voted in the guy on his back.
Well, actually the guy labeled middle class, should have another guy doing him doggy style, labeled, "the Poor" or "the f'n politicians"
There’s a bubble that recently popped and nobody noticed it.
it’s what’s called the HR bubble, head hunters, selection agency’s, temp sector.
The time where a agency could as 6 to 12 months pf wages for finding somebody are over. Now company’s just put up the ads and e erybody can look for a candidate for a eager sum of 1 to 2 months salaries.
now that might sound insignificant, but people should knpw there’s hundreds of agencies with high paying jobs recruiting people and that simply gone.
it only took a few month for that to happen! And nobody seemed to bother to look at it.
and why is it important?
Companies sold their assets durring 2007 to now and called their staff’s skills their assets. Now those assets... are worth a lot less and the companoes don’t own any real assets anymore...
so what does that say for stockprices?
Stockprices? To the moon! Bitchez!
English please (or is your keyboard missing some letters)
Non native speaker, I made the same error long ago. SD is fine, we get it.
another example of schumpeter creative destruction
why pay loads when there's an app for that?
Yes. What is exactly the hard asset value of all of these stocks ramped to the moon, especially if "good will" is discounted? Good will is as worthless as printed brochures of a failed company. Stocks are simply more worthless paper on which animal spirits are attached. I would be willing to bet that most corporations who have stock probably have all of their hard assets pledged against debt, not stock.
I hear a giant sucking sound..... again. Fits right in with this cartoon.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-hopes-to-enlist-gop-in-push...
Life hack: Join the rich class.
And there where no cartoon at Zero Hedge about crashing ruble. None. Zero.
So nothing about Russia failure cant be funny here? No? Where is the balance? Where is objectivity here?
Dude, I don't have any rubles and wtf do your comments have to do with this cartoon? Am I being too objective?
No, its called trolling.
Its a zionic thing.
All countries have some good news and bad news, but what I see here that only bad news about US and good news about Russia is reported. So reader makes wrong conclusions. That US is near to collapse (since this site's first articles till today) and Russia is booming, what is not objective nor true. If Russia is not in scope for this site reader than why it reports about it? If it reports about Russia why not about bad sides? If it jokes about US why not about Russia?
If you can find any good news about the US do feel free to share.
Just to go at one side of your arguement ... recently from ZH posts ...
Did I miss any other "only good news"?
Regards,
Cooter
Well, of course it's a world wide reality ZH could not ignore. But I see that it was some news that very fast was replaced by new articles that was sitting there on top making all this ruble crash article as some small minor no big deal article. When some other cartoon about US was sitting there for long time.
Can you point out a single cartoon about Russia / RUB / Putin failure? Just a single one? But ou boy can you see cartoons about US and Obama... so I think everyone will agree that there isn't balance here.
Well perhaps the ruble "crashing" is a "small minor" thing. It has been going up and down a lot and there really is no telling where it's going to go and who this is good or bad for. If you want a Putin cartoon make one and post it here if it's good and people like it may be they will even give you a job. You have to admit that at least here you can speak your mind, but if you look at CNN you can't even comment now under most articles. Also keep in mind this is a private enterprise so their goal is to please their readers.
1.) Both CNN and ZH has blocked my accounts - I was not using nor some bad language, nor spam, simply my view was not in line with ZH owners
2.) I see that ZH as CNN want's to manipulate with readers and not to please them.
1) There are no CNN accounts from what I know, and if you were blocked by ZH it was obviously not very effective. This is also something I can't check, but so far I don't see your comments being deleted.
2) How do you define manipulation?...do you consider them to be trying to trick you with false information somehow? If everything they post is true I don't consider it manipulation even if they don't tell you something that you personally consider important.
1.) For commentors there is account at CNN. It was blocked because I posted to many links revealing US crimes. Didn't like that - so they blocked. Same here in ZH. So I don't see any difference in policy between ZH and CNN. Only agenda is different - CNN produces US propoganda, ZH produces Russia propoganda. But principles are the same. Not interested in truth.
2.) Well, if there is posts about have bad evil etc. US is and how civil liberties are taken away and than there are articles how Russia stands against US and how it's alternative to US rule BUT nothing is said about how civil liberties are taken away in Russia and how Russia lies about Ukraine and plays these foolish games that they have nothing to do with little green man there. Well. it is manipulating with readers.
1) If you don't see any difference then simply play one side against the other and consider that the truth is somewhere in the middle. Here is the difference that I see... CNN US = GOOD, RUSSIA = BAD ZH US = is not a free country and people need to wake up and change things Russia = more capitalist now than the US still not free, but better.
2)I don't consider that manipulation. To me the definition of manipulation involves lying...if they are not lying you should take their information and if you require more go to some other place to get it. To me it seems that you simply want them to post anti Putin articles....if thats not something they want to do for whatever reason that does not mean they are manipulating you. You are free to create your own ZH and post whatever kind of things you want.
"You are free to create your own ZH and post whatever kind of things you want." CNN would tell me exactly the same. I told there is no difference. But what exactly is more free in Russia than it's not in US?
Does US bloggers needs to report US agency if they have 3000 visitors a day? Because is Russia they have to do that? Is US planning to ban all add in TV so that only state TV stays there? Because Russia plans that. Is there an agancy that closes any site they want in US? Because Russia does that.
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/07/05/russia-internet-censorship-laws...
http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-ad-ban-hurts-television/25449900.html
http://rt.com/politics/177248-russia-bloggers-law-restrictions/
No, US citizens has lost many liberties but Russian never had them in first place and nor do they have them more under Putin rule.
If by same you mean they are private enterprises then yeah I agree with you they are private...so what?
Less taxes for one(not such a huge tax code and the taxes aren't that high)...less regulations ... the society is more traditional nobody is going to call you a racist, sexist...no affirmative action or other nonsense like that. The rule of law(especially if the laws are dumb) is not taken to the extreme...the government is not considered to be all knowing and respect has to be earned by deeds and not simply by winning an election. I am not saying Russia is perfect far from it, but it is moving in the right direction whereas the US is becoming more like the USSR....political dynasties congress looking and having the same approval as the politburo in the end days.
Listen man you may not have to register with a US agency(yet), but they know who you are(since you pay for the website) and if you become a danger to the elites they will find a reason to close you down...In Russia there may be a law like that, but as long as you do your own thing and not try to start a revolution nobody is going to care. Btw do you know if anybody was denied blogger status? TV is dead and from what I know Russia actually has non state TV...the whole thing is pointless since if theres an outlet of informaiton called the internet using state tv as a propaganda tool is useless...Russia is not NK or China when things come to media. Yes there is an agency that can close websites in the US its called the justice deparment...usually it's pointless since a mirror simply pops up very quickly. When it comes to Russia the laws are second to common sense...that is the guarantee that people don't become nazis since they don't need laws to know right from wrong.
You're too stupid to be on the real internet.
I suggest www.businessinsider.com for you....and a vasectomy.
Ah, you reduced the argument to a "battle of cartoons".
Your concession of defeat is accepted.
Enjoy the rest of your holiday!
Regards,
Cooter
Was there a fight if you see someone's defeat?
Mkey...
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face."
And my new favorite
"rat piece of shit"
-- Mikey Tyson (OT, maybe)
You have a link to Russia failing ?
Strategically the USA just shot itself in the head, instead of the stomach this time.
You are looking the wrong way brother.
Only one country is fatally wounded right now, lets hope the corpse doesn't twitch too much
around the launch button.
My biggest worry is that the egos in US leadership will push this shit far enough with Russia to get some tact nukes launched to prevent an invasion.
At that point, the world will hold its breath to see if they can back down or take it all down.
NATO can only get so close to Moscow, without any significant geographic barriers, before the button gets pushed.
Regards,
Cooter
Has the USA ever invaded a country with nukes? I think not. Hmmm, I wonder why countries wish to have them? Nope, it just makes no sense whatsoever.
Miffed;-)
*IF* the US dumps real hardware (e.g. tanks, boots, artillery, etc) into the Ukraine and advances those NATO forces East, there will come a time where all that military gear will be not very far from Moscow.
The Ukraine is shaping up to look like a hot proxy war not unlike Vietnam was ... execpt in this case the battle field is a short drive from the Russian capital.
It is no where near this far along, but to clarify my point, the tact nukes would be used by Russia to disperse the piled up military hardware on its border.
Regards,
Cooter
If you compare how Ukraine soldiers looked before Russia occupied Crimea and how they look now - you could see that Ukraine is recieving help from NATO.
Also, if you do understand russian language - you can follow latasted updates on youtube to find out that Ukranians has recieved upgrade from US which allows them so see & hear every move Russian terorists does in Ukraine.
http://youtu.be/9Oy3M_dLxyg
Which mean they are beaing slaughtered because where ever they go - Ukranians already is waiting them:
http://youtu.be/6KMdd13UNYc
"Russian terrorists" you can't be a terrorist if the hostages want you there...you are either a western Ukie or very red from all the kool aid. I think you are sick for advocating this slaughter. There is no military solution to this problem the sooner the Ukrainians understand this the less lives will be lost...hold a referendum and be done with it.
Well how do you call people that are working in Russian army and are send to Ukraine with removed recognition signatures and ordered to attack other country army?
What is the correct name for that? Look you can live in your LaLa Putin great world - but don't ask that from others. I understand very well no rebel can stand regular army for a year if only they are no rebels but a regular army from other country. As also I understand that Syrian "freedom fighters" are recieving ammo, weapons, etc. from US allies to attack Syrian goverment forces.
There are no rebels there. It's ok to be open and say it loud - yes - Putin is not going to stand and watch how Ukraine joins EU and NATO - yes, he is acting to stop that process. I and many others understands that very well.
I call them people that work(or on vacation or worked) in the Russian army that went to Ukraine on their own free will(as soon as you are not army you don't have to follow orders). Are there people like that in east Ukraine...yes, but the majority of east Ukraine wants them there and that is simply something you have to realize. My guess is at least half of the separatist fighters are locals....you can dispute it that is just my own opinion based on the facts that I know. If you "understand very well no rebel can stand regular army for a year if only they are no rebels but a regular army from other country." then you understand that the Syrian "freedom fighters" are also some kind of regular army and not simply " recieving ammo, weapons, etc. ", because then you could say the same thing about the people in eastern Ukraine. If you disagree with me then you should be for a referendum about separation in eastern Ukraine....If there is a simliar way to solve the Syria crisis I am all for it. What is not the right way is simply trying to beat the other side into submission...that will only lead to more deaths.
Ou come on - don't give me that Putins bullshit about how those 19 year young boys serving in army just went on their free time to give their life away for some part not of teir country. That is such a bullshit. Those boys mothers are crying and their sisters are crying - those boys didn't have no choice. Don't give me that bullshit that those youngsters chosen death over some unknown teritory and unknown political reason. And that proportion 50 from russia army and 50 local you just made out by your self - there are no data to back it up.
If that is a referendum that it should have legal frame for it so that China could not create referendum in the middle of US that now China town is part of China. You know - that would be crazy world. So this mean all Ukranians should roll out their opinion about that region. If that is done that way and it's all international observers who watch it done properly - why not.
Who said anything about 19 year old boys?...the army is 3/4 professional. I think you have been watching too much Ukie TV where they show random caskets and random people crying. Like i said the 50% number is my opinion I don't think anybody that hasn't been there can know the real number, but if I am wrong then you should have no problem holding a referendum just in that area to show the entire world that eastern Ukraine wants to be Ukraine and that Putin is just causing trouble...if something like that happened you would have me convinced that he is evil. So my guess is you know as well as I do that those people want to have nothing to do with Ukraine since they have never considered themselves Ukrainian and should have never been incorporated into Ukrainian country during the collapse of the USSR.
Here is the thing...most people living in eastern Ukraine have been living there long before Ukraine was a country nobody ever asked them if they wanted to be a part of this new country...whereas people that came to America knew exactly what the rules were and that by settling those lands they had to play by those rules and become Americans. Think of the people in eastern Ukraine as native Americans that have their own sovereign reservations where US laws do not apply....it just happens that the reservation is large and is geographically concentrated in one place.
Ruble is stabilizing for past 2 weeks . Pissed much apologist ?
Russia's ruble strengthened sharply on Wednesday after dramatic falls on the previous two days as the government pressured exporters not to hoard foreign-currency earnings and the central bank announced new measures to support financial stability.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0JV0L520141217?irpc=932
So that is done by regime force not by market. As setting prices for products - that is how failed economies react. And it doesn't work in long term.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102296233
Assumption makes an ass out out u and me.
Like assuming the US is behind the oil price decline.
It has killed the petrodollar in months. more to Russia and China's liking than
the US's.
A little short term pain for that long term gain, is nothing.
Haven't checked the other thread, but your premise for calling the end of the petrodollar is .... ?
Not arguing, I figure it will happen eventually, but curious why you call it now instead of five years down the road, etc.
Regards,
Cooter
EDIT: Nevermind, I saw it here.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-28/civil-asset-forfeiture-final-st...
What are the other two legs since you didn't specify; dollar only oil sales ... and ... ? Understood regarding SWIFT.
MIC, neutralized by eurasian land transits.
PETRODOLLAR. No more UST recycling, now oil exporters are having to sell UST's.Will not come back.
SWIFT. No choke hold on FX exchange, and skim by dollar conversion first before exchange again..
This setup has been planned and in process long before 2008.The dye was cast by the Afghan folly, if not before.
Some people have been playing the long game.
I was figuring MIC, but I couldn't figure the angle, but that makes sense.
Regards,
Cooter
Is that is why russians traded rubles for so hated USD by standing in lines till they drop? And that is why Russian ally - Belarus demanded to use USD and EUR in trade between Russia and Belarus?
And sceptic attacks are all free market? It was no secret that someone was attacking Ruble. Now currency has stabilized and fx repo is barely government intervention. Add to the fact that telling them to not hoard fx to anything actually being done wont affect the value of the ruble now.
No, it isnt all pretty. But whataboutism is just plain stupid. At least Russia isnt trying to hide its real economy compared to US and UK. Russia and Russians know they are in for some tough time and know that this is prime opportunity to take advantage of domestic demands and enterprises.
Russian economy was in decline before oil prices dropped. And it was not some evil attacker - no - it was Putinism.
http://www.interpretermag.com/its-not-just-oil-and-sanctions-killing-russias-economy-its-putin/
The key policies scaring off investors at the end of last year had to do with Putin’s cronyism and outdated economic policies. Putin’s Russia is not a true capitalism since large amounts of Russia’s wealth is controlled by small numbers of people with close ties to the Russian government. No example of this is more clear than the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics, the most expensive — and corrupt — Olympic Games in the history of the world. In Sochi, Putin’s friends, family, and business partners were the main beneficiaries of a historical level of graft – with no real attempt to hide it, either. On the other hand, companies which run afoul of the Putin administration are not-infrequently prosecuted by the Putin administration for fraud and corruption. As we’ll see, this played a key role in this most recent collapse.
Putin has also been pursuing a reckless game of economic protectionism. Putin’s pet project and alternative to the European Union, the Eurasian Customs Union, has failed to attract most former-Soviet states. In response to a group of Russia’s neighbors making plans to sign EU association agreements (including, of course, Ukraine), Putin spent much of 2013 waging trade wars: banning certain imports, closing borders, passing new tariffs… as it turns out, while Putin was using these tactics to bully countries into joining the Customs Union, investors don’t like trade wars.
Well, I already see fault in your reasoning. Every new olympics is the next most expensive. Add to that, you never even seen sochi prior. It was villages. They litteraly built a city mixed in with two towns. Add in, already one owner of a construction company involved in sochi building is in jail for tax fraud. So much for "friends and family".
As well, food bans were due to EU and US policy. So far, reading finmarket.ru, things are looking up for Russia.
As for Russian economic policy... sdelanounas.ru
Have fun and enjoy reading through. And dont take everything that reuters and bloomberg says about Russia seriously. I have family and friends in Russia, I trust what they say more. Rest is up to you.
I have some friends and relatives in Russia, US, Canada, Australia, etc. - so what? They doesn't sit with Putin or Obama at same table. Is your friends sitting there?
One thing is being expensive other is corruption and it's not only some news article about corruption in Russia - its well known fact and if only your friends doesn't rely 100% on Russian state TV as only source of reality - they should know that better.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Russia
https://www.google.lv/search?q=corruption+russia+Putin&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8...
Just because you say that something is a well known fact it does not suddenly become true....please provide your evidence.
And in what format would be aceptable this evidence for you? An article? Some agencies report? What?
And is it needed for me - or for you? And if it's needed for you than aren't you interested into finding truth your self?
I don't know man whatever you have that you yourself understand and can explain to others...if you don't understand how the corruption index is calculated don't cite it since you then will not be aware if lobbying(or even taxes) is counted as corruption or not...This is why I don't say that one country is more corrupt than another since then you need empirical evidence for this...if you can't provide it I suggest you stop calling nations corrupt.
So If I don't know the recipe how narcotics are made I can't say it's bad to do them?
That doesn't make sense. But it's your choice to live in that denial world. Even Russian goverment aknowledges that corruption is a big issue in their country.
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/bibliotheque/briefing/2014/140742/...
Do you know what happens to you if you take narcotics and can you explain it?...I can so yeah I can tell people not to take them( the recipe in this case is not that important)...if you can't may be you shouldn't. Corruption is a big issue everywhere what I am saying is that it is something that is very hard to quanitfy and thus it is pointless to compare countries.
So in your mind Denmark and Russia has same corruption level?
In my mind that is a pointless question? To ask the proper question you have to define corruption and include if you mean corruption per capita, total money sum.... my guess is you will never be able to ask this question correctly since some people can argue that the very fact that the state exists already leads to corruption through taxes...its all about the definition.
Nothing is done by the market anymore.
Actually, there were cartoons about crushing ruble.
They were titled "Ameriken Patriot" and kept repeating for days.
It was quite funny.
But it was posted by readers not by this site.
Oh... you must be looking for cnbc.com or bloomberg.com. They carry the official party line for true believers.
I am looking for objectivity b where both sides are taken into account in balance.
123
It's too late for you. You've already had a lobotomy.
Have you not noticed that as this thread goes on, 123's "Slavic" typing accent has slowly disappeared and turned into nearly perfect American English? You guys are wasting your time playing with a troll. Possibly a paid one. LOL
I sense some corruption here hmmmmm LOL highjacker highjacker
Look Squirrels
That Latvian guy, does the same thing.
He tries to write in broken English but when he thinks he has a point he gets excited, and suddenly he writes like an editor at Commentary.
countertheory: perhaps he is genuine, and uses phrases he cutted and pasted? it's not easy to write in a foreign language, but it's even more difficult to write at the same level in a foreign language. just saying
Where's the fun in believing that this commentor or that has lived in South west China for 6 years, when they haven't been out of the East Village since they moved there after graduating Boston University 4 years ago?
Have you found it yet? Anywhere?
Only when I mix news from many sides. Not from one source. Certanly not in Zero Hedge where it's very obvious that it's owners has some interest not to show Russia from it's all sides but to hide and very much to manipulate with information in order to portray Putin as saviour and US & EU as some kind of evil axes and everyone who doesn't line up to that agenda - is enemies and NSA, spies, draculas, zionists, reptiles, NWO agends, etc.
If it was not for ZH (and the likes), there would be nothing to mix.
You can always mix drinks!
ZH is not objective financial journalism. It's entertainment.
Why do you assume a falling rouble is bad for Russia? If this is what you call "Russian failure" then I think you are the one not being objeective.
Hey you poor fuckers! Aquire assets and quit your bitchin!
Signed, Mr. Yellin
I just realized bitchin and bitcoin are only off by one letter ... I thought you said bitcoin at first LMAO!
Regards,
Cooter
Dont worry,Be happy!
They lower the Oil!!!
Hey thats one hell of a thread highjack there you 2 and was more fun than the damn lame ass cartoon Kudos
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