Disappeared AirAsia Plane Likely "At Bottom Of Sea"; No Signal Detected

Tyler Durden's picture

One would have thought that more than half a year after the mysterious disappearance of Malaysia flight MH-370 airlines would have taken precautions to keep track of airplanes at any given moment. One would be wrong, and as the latest mystery surrounding AirAsia's missing jet deepens, it has become clear that like with its Malaysian predecessor, nobody has any clue where the plane may be, so the speculation begins. Cue Reuters, which reports that the plane "could be at the bottom of the sea after it was presumed to have crashed off the Indonesian coast, an official said on Monday, as countries around Asia sent ships and planes to help in the search effort."

The disappearance was quite unexpected, even to the pilots, as Flight QZ8501 did not even get a chance to issue a distress signal and disappeared over the Java Sea five minutes after requesting the change of course, which was refused because of heavy air traffic, officials said. What is just as surprising is that the airplane in question, an Airbus A320 has traditionally had a virtually spotless flight history: The plane that disappeared was delivered to AirAsia from the production line in October 2008. Powered by CFM 56-5B engines built by a joint venture of General Electric Co. and France’s Safran SA (SAF), the aircraft had accumulated approximately 23,000 flight hours in some 13,600 flights, Airbus said on its website.

According to Bloomberg, the A320 and the related A318, A319 and A321 have among the lowest accident rates of modern commercial aircraft, with a fatal crash in about 1 in every 7 million departures, according to a study published in August by Boeing Co. (BA) The last fatal accident involving an Airbus single-aisle plane was in 2010, when an A321 operated by Pakistani carrier Airblue crashed into rugged terrain in heavy rain, killing all 152 people on board.

So what likely happened? From Reuters:

"Based on our coordinates, we expect it is in the sea, so for now (we think) it is on the sea floor," Soelistyo, head of Indonesia's search and rescue agency, told reporters when asked about the missing plane's likely location.

 

A senior Indonesian civil aviation source told Reuters that authorities had the flight's radar data and were waiting for search and rescue teams to find debris before they started their investigation into the cause.

As previously reported, some of the early clues hinted at an airplane crash, and these are currently being investigated: Air force spokesman Hadi Tjahjanto said searchers were checking a report of an oil slick off the east coast of Belitung island, near where the plane lost contact. He also said searchers had picked up an emergency locator signal off the south of Borneo island but had been unable to pinpoint it.

Some more coverage from Bloomberg:

The first planes that reached the region where the AirAsia plane was last reported didn’t find any signs of the missing aircraft, Sutono, a communication director at the Indonesian search and rescue agency, said today. Searchers focused on an oil spill seen 100 nautical miles off Belitung island, Hadi Tjahjono, spokesman for Indonesia’s Airforce told reporters.

 

Objects spotted by one of the search planes later turned out to be unrelated to the aircraft, the Airforce said.

 

 

Shares of AirAsia dropped 8.5 percent in Kuala Lumpur trading, their biggest slide since 2011. While AirAsia is based in Sepang, Malaysia, it operates with subsidiaries and affiliates in different countries. The missing plane belonged to its Indonesian operations.

 

“We’re devastated, but we don’t know what’s happened yet,” Chief Executive Officer Tony Fernandes said at a press conference in Surabaya yesterday.

In any event, the search continues although the likelihood that it will have a more faborable outcome than the search for MH-370 is virtually nil:

The last signal from the plane was between the city of Pontianak on Borneo and the town of Tanjung Pandan on Belitung island. The search was initially concentrated around Belitung, Transport Minister Ignasius Jonan said earlier. Sulistyo said the search area had been widened to include the Karimata strait and land areas in western West Kalimantan.

 

Robert Mann, head of aviation consultant R.W. Mann & Co. in Port Washington, New York, said searchers missed crucial daylight hours because authorities in Indonesia took an hour and 38 minutes to classify the plane as missing.

 

“It’s the golden hour in an accident scene; you only have so many daylight hours,” he said in a phone interview.

 

AirAsia had no fatal crashes in its history of more than a decade of operations. The A320 has built a reputation as a sturdy workhorse, with more than 6,000 A320 family aircraft in service to date with over 300 operators.

Finally, for the visual learners:

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Wild Theories's picture

Poor souls

but at least their fate is known

PT's picture

Must be the Rapture ...

Damn!  I knew I wasn't good enuff!

power steering's picture

The plane went with them? Maybe it's not you but that ratty old E-Z-Boy

BurningFuld's picture

Remember, your seat cushion acts as a floatation device.

Manthong's picture

Well, it looks like emergency locator beacons aren’t such a valuable addition to avionics nowadays and there is a big hole in the “Total Information Awareness” of certain increasingly repressive states.

They can tell you if granny texted you about her Christmas get together but they have no clue what happened to a 50 ton aluminum can hurtling through the skies.

 

PT's picture

Good thing they make 'em compulsory on little ultra-lites.  Maybe the big airlines got an exemption ...

I MISS KUDLOW's picture

somethings not right thats a narrow body of water they would find debris, this is like being blown off, somthing nafarious going on

roadhazard's picture

The report this morning is debris has been found.

cnmcdee's picture

Does anyone think that maybe someone is stealing these airplanes?  Change the paint, grind off the serial numbers, pop a fresh transponder in them, and voila! $100 million dollar airplane is yours..  How else can something so big disappear without a single seat cushion being found..

XitSam's picture

Like a giant plane comes up behind them and swallows it. Then takes it to a secret underground base in a volcano in Japan.

Gaius Frakkin' Baltar's picture

That seems more likely than a modern jet crashing in the modern world and leaving no trace.

Omen IV's picture

With its first patrols scheduled for the summer of 2014 aboard the newly revamped USS Ponce, the LaWS system represents the US Navy’s first attempt at fielding a high-energy laser weapon.

In the future, ships with greater electrical capacity will likely be home to even more powerful direct energy weapons, possibly even those capable of downing planes, missiles and even satellites

 

http://www.engineering.com/DesignerEdge/DesignerEdgeArticles/ArticleID/7305/US-Navy-is-Set-Deploy-its-First-Laser-Weapon.aspx

 

Saturday, 8 March 2014 - MH370

PT's picture

Shit!  I was at the pub, just last night, and some shady looking character wandered up to me and said, "Pssssstt, hey buddy.  Do you want to buy a cheap jumbo jet?"  I told him I was skint, finished my drink and went home to check my emails.

Blow me down, a Nigerian Prince was trying to emigrate and needed help loading his gold onto his new second-hand aeroplane.  It looks legit becoz he knew my email address and all.

A Nanny Moose's picture

We Larry McDonnel'd some folks.

PT's picture

Good point.  Better add wings and a jet engine to this thing.  Yeee-haaar!!!

Slomotrainwreck's picture

The Maylasian Triangle?

"The ocean floor in the Java Sea is flat and muddy, and rarely deeper than 60 meters (197 feet), according to Hans Berekoven, an amateur archaeologist who surveyed the area for oil prospects in the 1990s."

noben's picture

In that case, it should be easy to locate with Sonar. Even fishing boats could do the job.

MEFOBILLS's picture

Virtually all of the Kennedy family were killed on numerlogically significant dates.  Also, the constellations were aligned in specific way, especially in accordance with Zohar and Kaballah mystery religion.

Maylaysia has been on the outs since the Asian Currency Crises, when they did things that made IMF look foolish.  Malaysia ignored the toxic nostrums of IMF and created their own template.

 The word cannot get out that countries are actually sovereign entities and hence own the legal power of their own money.  Money should serve the people of the country and not an alien cabal of private bankers - an international cabal in thrall to inherently psychopathological mental constructs.

It is also no secret that Malaysian government has been more outspoken than others especially at New World Order forums.  

Speak out and then you will be punished.  State airlines crashing and disappearing is a good way to attack the State.

PhilofOz's picture

Read about the BHUAP (Boeing Honeywell Uninterruptible Autopilot) or "Boeing Uninterruptable Autopilot" system on Wikipedia and be very concerned about who it is capable of taking over by full remote control any of these airliners. Lufthansa was so concerned at their planes capable of being taken over by unknown outside forces they spent billions in removing this capability. There is enough information available on-line on BHUAP to suggest a version of this system has being installed into Airbus since 1994. Imagine a pilot losing complete control of his aircraft to remote control using satellite. Who is at the other end and what nefarious purposes could this be used for?

LasVegasDave's picture

Oh when will they learn; muslims and airliners dont mix

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

Muslims and anything don't mix.

czarangelus's picture

Another racist dumbfuck too dense to notice that once again, the overwhelming bulk of the casualties were Muslim civilians...

Newsflash, stupid - usually the people who are doing all the dying aren't the people who are the source of the problem.

25or6to4's picture

Unbeiveable in this day and age anything like this could happen.....twice in one year in the same region. It seems they tracked aircraft better in the 1930s and at least they had a clue where Emilia Earhart's plane went down. Oh well, maybe 70 years from now we'll find out.

Say, aren't Airbuses equipped with watertight hatches and gear doors? That's what I remember from the one that went down in the Hudson a few years ago.

Sandmann's picture

Going down in the Hudson River......because Canada geese had priority flight plans.......CFM engines again.......and the water ripped through the fuselage

insanelysane's picture

That plane floated on the surface for a while and everyone got off of it.  This plane submerged, allegedly, without a trace.

falak pema's picture

Sounds ominously like Luca Brasi.

Sleeping with the fish?

new game's picture

this trend is not your friend...

TeethVillage88s's picture

Somebody got new Weapon?

China, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, UK, Russia, USA, France, Australia...

Sandmann's picture

not UK......they have no new weapons - ask the army how old their kit is - older than the operators

shovelhead's picture

But they're very good with a knife.

fzrkid's picture

Amazing how a truck fleet service can monitor everything about their vehicles no matter where they are but they cannot keep track of a multimillion dollar aircraft with ~160 people on it...

 

2nd plane to go missing, just maybe there is something else going on.

Handful of Dust's picture

Bankers know when I'm off a penny in my account balance.....Walmart and other grocery stores track your every move down the aisle with devices...spies knows when i bend over to take a piss as well as the stream flow....and they have no clue where a giant hunk of metal with over a hundred people on board went?

 

Smells like month old Gulf Shrimp.

williambanzai7's picture

They seem to know who picked up the flying bills in HK.

PT's picture

Good idea.  Always make sure something ordered from Amazon is on your plane.  Then if it goes missing we can just click on "Track your package"!

:P

yellowsub's picture

When it comes to gov't it doesn't surprise, they have everyone's SS# and they can't even "track" who's unemployment ran out vs getting a job?  

 

roadhazard's picture

None of the places you mentioned are under water. You should use some analogy that actually fits the subject.

Socratic Dog's picture

I labor under the apprehension that jet engines like these transmit data continuously when in use.  Yet in neither case did that piece of info surface in the MSM narrative.  It seems sorta relevant to this poor bastard.

Have to think that this is a .gov-coordinated job.  Including media control.  Ramp up the fear factor that little bit more.  So we beg for more .gov.

 

PT's picture

The odds of losing a plane might be one in a million, but that makes the odds of losing two planes one in a million million.  The odds of losing three planes?  One in a million million million !!! (errr, they're exclamation marks, not factorial symbols, just making sure!)

No way it cood happen again! ... cood it?

Son of Loki's picture

Gee, makes me wonder if Santa's sleigh made it home ok ?

Martian Moon's picture

Nonsense

Commercial airliners can't just get lost

The plane has transponders, and so do the engines, relaying continous telemetric data as to their status

Add to that intelligence satellites in geodesic orbit capable of zooming in on a car plate covering every sensitive square foot of this globe (I'd call the Diego Garcia airbase sensitive)

What I find amazing is living in this twillight zone world where the MSN can peddle the nonsense that airliners can just disappear and not get called on it

 

 

Sandmann's picture

Do nowadays and see if the insurers really care.....

valley chick's picture

Agreed.  Yesterday I had posted that another day may have been needed to locate the missing plane as the weather may have hampered efforts the day of the "crash". With a decent day for a search and to come up with nothing does not fit the script for a crash.

Debt-Penitent's picture

Abso-effin-lutely.

They have no idea where it is.  Wow, what bullshit.

cherry picker's picture

My faith in the reliability of technology is not as strong as yours, particularly in a storm over a large body of water.

We oversell ourselves on GPS and so on.  It wouldn't be the first time someone is mislead by using google maps, etc.  What makes you think it doesn't happen on airplanes or ships and for that reason they simply 'vanish'?

Martian Moon's picture

My brother in law is a pilot

He, as I, doesn't buy these disappearing airliner stories

Crash, yes, but disappear off the face of the globe with no trace, impossible mon ami

cherry picker's picture

It happened, didn't it?  Like the Bermuda Triangle.  Just because we don't know where it is, doesn't mean it is not there.

I rest my case.

Martian Moon's picture

The fact that "we" don't know where the missing airliners are does not imply that no one knows where the missing airliners are

And that is my point

TPTB know precisely where the missing airliners are, the redundancies built into tracking airliners make a parallel failure of all tracking systems a near zero probability

TPTB are keeping that information to themselves

Don't ask me for what purpose, I'm just a scientist, political machinations are not my cup of tea