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Wreckage Of Missing AirAsia Flight Found, Bodies Retrieved

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The mystery of the disappearance of Malaysian flight MH-370 may remain forever, but at least the families of the 162 victims of AirAsia Flight QZ8501 will get some closure when a few hours ago, Indonesian rescuers pulled wreckage and bodies from the sea off the coast of Borneo on Tuesday.  While the plane has yet to be found, and the possibility of finding survivors is slim, the Indonesian navy said some 40 bodies had been recovered as dusk fell.

The search had included 30 ships and 21 aircraft from
South Korea, Singapore, Malaysia, Australia and Indonesia

"The warship Bung Tomo has retrieved 40 bodies and the number is growing. They are very busy now," said a navy spokesman.

A search and rescue worker loads body bags onto a
flight to Kalimantan in Pangkal Pinang, Bangka

They were found in the Java Sea about six miles (10km) from where the plane last communicated with air traffic control.

An aerial view of Belitung, the search area for the missing AirAsia plane

As SkyNews reports, search chief SB Supriyadi also said an air force Hercules had "found an object described as a shadow at the bottom of the sea in the form of a plane".

Indonesian air force crew members were involved in the search

Objects spotted earlier have also been confirmed as wreckage from the plane and some have been taken away by helicopter for testing.

This aerial view over the Java Sea shows floating objects

AirAsia boss Tony Fernandes said he was rushing to the scene and wrote on Twitter: "My heart is filled with sadness for all the families involved in QZ 8501.

"On behalf of AirAsia my condolences to all. Words cannot express how sorry I am."

On board Flight QZ8501 were 155 Indonesians, three South Koreans, and one person each from Singapore, Malaysia and Britain. The co-pilot was French.

According to Reuters,  pictures of floating bodies were broadcast on television and relatives of the missing gathered at a crisis center in Surabaya wept with heads in their hands. Several people collapsed in grief and were helped away, a Reuters reporter said.

Relatives at Surabaya airport weep as they receive news that
bodies have been found in the hunt for the missing plane

"You have to be strong," the mayor of Surabaya, Tri Rismaharini, said as she comforted relatives.

"They are not ours, they belong to God."

A navy spokesman said a plane door, oxygen tanks and one body had been recovered and taken away by helicopter for tests.

And the latest news from BBG in what is now set to a tragic ending:

  • INDONESIA INVITES AIRASIA ENGINEERS TO CONFIRM FOUND OBJECTS
  • INDONESIA SAYS THREE BODIES RETRIVIED FROM ACCIDENT SITE
  • INDONESIA SAYS ROUGH SEA HAMPERING RECOVERY PROCESS
  • INDONESIA REQUESTING ADDITIONAL TWO DIVE TEAMS FROM NAVY
  • INDONESIA WILL UPDATE RECOVERY PROCESS AT 8-9 AM TOMORROW
  • INDONESIA WILL BRING BODIES TO SURABAYA FOR IDENTIFICATION
 

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Tue, 12/30/2014 - 07:38 | 5604517 GetZeeGold
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The mystery of the disappearance of Malaysian flight MH-370 may remain forever

 

Not sure I'll ever get over Diego Garcia...

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 08:06 | 5604544 Latina Lover
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At least this time the USSA government is kind enough to give closure to their latest victims.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 08:12 | 5604549 Headbanger
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What fucking sense does that make you idiot?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 09:15 | 5604609 JohninMK
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Interesting, perhaps? Nothing like a good conspiracy theory. More at link

MOSCOW, December 30 (Sputnik), Ekaterina Blinova – A Mysterious Chinese blogger seemingly predicted the AirAsia QZ8501 catastrophe, providing warnings to potential travelers some two weeks before the tragic incident actually happened.

"There is a post on some Chinese forum that is blowing up right now because apparently a user 13 days ago made a post warning people not to go on AirAsia Airline. He explained that the people that brought down MH370 is going to target another Malaysian airline to destroy Malaysia's Air travel industry or something like that and it all has something to do with the US (my Chinese is a bit rusty)," a Reddit member wrote, referring to the mysterious Chinese blogger.

The post immediately went viral on social media. About two weeks ago the Chinese poster warned against using AirAsia passenger airliners, referring to a shadow organization "The International Black Hand."

The International Business Times cites the original post written in Chinese: "Black Hand hijacked and shot down MH370 and MH17. This has pretty much killed the 6th largest airline – Malaysian airline."

"Now the Black Hand is targeting AirAsia to ruin this airline because it too belongs to Malaysia. Given how powerful the Black Hand is, I suggest that all Chinese planning to travel, should avoid AirAsia, so that you don't disappear like those on MH370. You could be happily vacationing, working, or studying aboard, but if you go on Malaysian airline or AirAsia, you're dead, be careful everyone," the poster calling himself "Landlord" stressed.

http://sputniknews.com/asia/20141230/1016394698.html

 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 10:56 | 5604929 insanelysane
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NO ONE IS SURPRISED BY THIS STATEMENT???

"They were found in the Java Sea about six miles (10km) from where the plane last communicated with air traffic control."

Why did the search take days?  Why were they expanding the search area?  It would seem that the plane fucking crashed right where it was when the last communication happened.  Why didn't the search start there?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 13:08 | 5605385 ItsDanger
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The US?  Why?  To get US companies to do regional flights in SE Asia?  This doesnt even make sense.  Maybe a local competitor.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 08:46 | 5604577 StychoKiller
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Yo homies (and Homiettes!), not everything is a conspiracy!

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 11:06 | 5604962 tired1
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You're correct. But given the multitude of outright lies, deceptions, coverups, ettc, how does one tell? Understanding that the MSM is truethful by accident or when it serves some ulterior purpose, how is one supposed to process news events?

What brings ourselves to arternation sources, such as ZH, if the MSM was doing its' stated funtion?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 07:42 | 5604520 MaxThrust
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I guess we can rule out SU 27 fighter jets and bullet holes in the airframe.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 08:08 | 5604546 Latina Lover
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The truth  of  MH17 will come out when the Kiev coup government is overthrown and the USSA puppets removed.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 08:10 | 5604548 LasVegasDave
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as well as hasbara trolls launched from diego garcia

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 12:02 | 5605152 Mountainview
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From where is the aircontroler denying the plane to go higher?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:53 | 5606072 ZeroPoint
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Bullet holes? Isn't jumping to conclusions? The report said high energy kinetic strikes. Could be anything....

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 07:45 | 5604523 Peter Pan
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If we mourn these people who are the victims of nature and hence outside our control, how much more should we mourn the victims of war, torture, crime, police brutality and persecution which are all avoidable and yet man made?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 07:50 | 5604527 GetZeeGold
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Gotta hand it to us.....we're pretty good at that crap.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 13:01 | 5605362 Anusocracy
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Millions of years of practice.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 09:06 | 5604601 _ConanTheLibert...
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I remember a time when the news in my country was just about a few fellow citizens who perished. There was no other news. Ridiculous really.

Who cares about a few people when thousands die every day in accidents.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 07:48 | 5604525 JustObserving
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Flying through storms is dangerous even today:

The plane’s pilot then asked to increase altitude from 32,000 to 38,000 feet due to the weather conditions, but the request was denied because there were six other planes in the vicinity. The pilots were instead approved to increase their altitude to 34,000 feet. Within three minutes, the plane had disappeared from radar contact entirely.

Unconfirmed secondary radar data of the plane’s flight reportedly show the plane was climbing toward 36,000 feet, at a speed of 353 knots, or approximately 650 kilometres per hour. Geoffrey Thomas, a Sydney-based aviation expert, said that, if true, this would be below the minimum safe speed for this altitude.

“The QZ8501 was flying too slow, about 100 knots [160 kilometres per hour]... too slow,” he told the British Daily Mail. “Essentially the plane is flying too slow for the altitude and the thin air, and the wings won’t support it at that speed and you get a stall, an aerodynamic stall.”

According to the newspaper, aviation experts have suggested that a build-up of ice on airspeed sensors, known as pitot tubes, might have given the pilots an incorrect speed measurement. False speed measurement due to icing is known to have contributed to the crash of Air France Flight AF447 on June 1, 2009 over the South Atlantic Ocean. The plane’s pilots were known to be manoeuvring to avoid storm clouds.

Thomas also said that the Airbus 320 is not equipped with the latest radar system for measuring storms and this may have led the pilots to misjudge the storm’s severity

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/12/30/aira-d30.html

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 09:04 | 5604590 cnmcdee
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I find it pretty amazing my $4,000 dollar beater vehicle can have a GPS module put in it for $99 that tells me my driving speed completely independent of tire rotation - but a $100 million dollar state of the art aircraft can't and  rely's on Pitot tubes that are all failing in an ice storm?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 09:09 | 5604603 25or6to4
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I hope for the sake of the victims families that the Indonesian navy is better at finding things that the Swedish navy is.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 09:11 | 5604605 Isotope
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The GPS can show you your ground speed, but not your true air speed, which is more important in situations with high head winds or tail winds.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 09:32 | 5604654 jerry_theking_lawler
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Huh? GPS shows his 'ground speed' because his car is on the ground. Isn't GPS a 'triangulation' technology...so altititude doesn't matter??

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 09:59 | 5604736 PT
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Need to know AIRspeed in order to avoid stalling.  Pitot tubes in commercial aircraft have anti-icing equipment built in so there's still no good reason for failure (Pilot forgot to turn it on?  Faulty equipment?).  Climbing stall is not the most difficult thing to correct, especially if you've got 30 000+feet in which to correct.  The true problem is the thunderstorm - huge updrafts and downdrafts so now you don't have the full 30000 feet -, but still, all this stuff is old knowledge and old technology.

... and I'm no expert.  Could be simple error.  Could be someone will get reamed for making the wrong fuck-up.  Or it still could be conspiracy.

Sad to think that this kind of stuff-up could still be possible at this stage of the game.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 10:16 | 5604804 replaceme
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The airspeed is important to those in the plane, but groundspeed would sure be helpful for the ground operations, say in a case like this.  You'd think a plane like that would be covered for both.  I thought the engines transmitted data all the time, remember hearing that for the earlier disappearance - the engines report back their health, operating info, so the manufacturers can track how the perform, stand up to wear, etc.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 11:04 | 5604958 PT
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Yep.  As I mentioned in an earlier post:

Assuming crash at 40 000 feet, ~50 seconds till debris hits ground.
Assuming 900km/h, --> approx 15 kms from where it disappears from Radar. +/- wind resistance, ocean currents, Radar accuracy etc.
Estimate debris pattern over 15km x 15km = 225km2

Unless it was hijacked and Radar turned off, it shouldn't be too hard to find.
But why should it disappear from Radar at whatever altitude at which it was flying?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 07:48 | 5604528 Magooo
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The American stooges in Ukraine have the flight recorders for the Malaysian Airlines flight that was shot down there last year.

 

Can anyone tell me why they are not releasing the information contained on them?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 07:53 | 5604530 Peter Pan
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Beacuse FOI no longer stands for Freedom of Information. It now stands for F..k Off Idiot.

Other reasons:

1. It might exonerate Russia or the eastern Ukranians.

2. They are still cutting and pasting for a grand release.

3. It might implicate the USA or the Ukranians.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 08:05 | 5604536 GetZeeGold
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First of all...it's not country against country. You need to nip that line of thinking in the bud.

 

It's tribe against tribe.

 

They are exceeding wealthy.....but it's not enough for them.....they won't be happy until they own your stuff.

 

It's just the way they roll.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 09:04 | 5604596 Ghordius
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and once upon a time "they" were not allowed in Ivy League Universities. and now that they are... well, "their" mothers give them only peace when they are studying, or at least that's the prejudice

would you really prefer to have a more... tribal setup? what would your tribe be, then? white, anglo-saxon and protestant isn't, strictly speaking, a tribe

or, on a different tack, aren't zip-codes becoming the new tribes of America? as a reminder, I have only a very distant vision of your country. my ignorance is vast, there

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 09:22 | 5604619 25or6to4
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Ghordo
"what would your tribe be, then? WASP..."
I guess you enjoy the zions being in charge because it's gone so well with never ending wars financed by the Rothchilds and a never ending stream of welfare tourists pouring through open boarders. I'm not a WASP but that tribe in charge in the US would be fine with me. At least my country would have a functioning border again.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 09:36 | 5604664 Ghordius
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I don't see the connection between Zionism and the US southern border, to be frank. In Israel, which is a country I know way better then yours, Zionists build lots of walls

meanwhile Europe has a huge southern "moat" called the Med, and it's unbelievable how many people die trying to cross it for the chance to find a better life

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 10:11 | 5604781 25or6to4
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Yes Ghordo, Zionists protect their own while seeking to destroy or subjugate others to their own benefit.
Those crossing the Med are indeed seeking a better life albeit at the monetary and cultural costs of those living in Europe already. They do nothing but bring their baggage of violence and chaos to their newly adopted lands. They would never consider the trip if not for the free handouts they receive via taxpayers. If Europeans were smart they would immediately repatriate all the dead wood floating up on their shores. Such a policy would cease further attempts at the ongoing welfare invasion .

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 10:20 | 5604824 Ghordius
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I can't hide the fact that many europeans think the same way as you do. the only thing I wanted to point out that even a damn big "moat" is puny, for this kind of pressure. which actually leads to one interesting thing:

I actually agree with you that it's important how they are treated when they succeed in entering the country (perhaps not on how, but on the importance of how). to the point that imo it matters more then moats or walls, so much that... I'd say all this money spent for walls is wasted

only my opinion, mind, perhaps biased from hating for a long time the Iron Curtain, and helping some to cross the walls we had, then

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 08:02 | 5604534 JustObserving
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Vladislav Voloshin: "The Plane Was In the Wrong Place at the Wrong Time"


A “secret witness” has appeared in the “Malaysian Boeing” case; his evidence drops all the charges against the opolchenye – militias and Russia. And also explains the mysterious behaviour of Western experts

 
This man came to the Komsomolskaya Pravda Editorial office on his own. We checked his papers – he is not an actor, nor a straw man. We cannot yet reveal the real data provided by the witness –his relatives are still in Ukraine and he is afraid of retaliation and blackmail. Judging by the facts Alexandr told us (let us name him so) – his concerns are quite real. Here is the transcript of our conversation almost without any cuts.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article186300.html

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 10:46 | 5604901 apocalypticbrother
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That is too easy. It is because flight m-317 was really the plane from flight mh-370

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 11:01 | 5604943 smacker
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No, the MH-17 flight data recorders were shipped to Farnborough, UK for analysis. Nothing heard of them since. The empty suit British PM Cameron is part of the big conspiracy to cover-up that it was shot down by Poroshenko's air force.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 07:57 | 5604533 nmewn
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So...no black hole then? ;-)

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 08:04 | 5604542 GetZeeGold
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CNN is still going with the UFoes.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 08:01 | 5604537 Rambo123
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AirAsia CEO Dumped Shares Days Before Flight Disappeared

http://www.prisonplanet.com/airasia-ceo-dumped-shares-days-before-flight...

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 08:08 | 5604545 Ghordius
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this might have other reasons, though. A Singaporian newspaper I was reading lately reported AirAsia employees were not being paid

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 08:12 | 5604550 youngman
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Well they found it...this is good news....and the seas there are quite shallow...so the whole plane should be found...and the black boxes...and I bet we find a mid air stall.....another failed Airbus instrument...you cant fly that big of a plane at 100 mph at that altitude...they just dont fly

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 08:31 | 5604565 GetZeeGold
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That's why that fly by wire scares the crap out of me. Sometimes you don't have a lot of time to turn that off.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 08:51 | 5604580 The Chief
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So far, we only know what they've told us. Remember that. We have no idea whose bodies these are. When I see the plane wreckage, and be able to identify it, I'll be satisfied.

 

This is an evil crew of demonic monsters.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 10:54 | 5604919 PT
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youngman:  Just a quick little correction:  It wasn't flying at 100mph.  It was flying at 100mph slower than stall speed for that altitude.  Apart from that, your point remains.

The correct way to exit from a climbing stall is to lower the nose and increase thrust.  Shouldn't be too hard to return to normal flying.  But things become more difficult when there is a thunderstorm below you.

My memory is a little rusty on this one but:
When deprived of visual cues, eg night time or dark clouds, the body cannot differentiate between acceleration and tilting.  Pilots have been known to take off, assume they are climbing too steeply, lower the nose, the acceleration convinces them that they are still too steep so they lower the nose further and so on till they crash into the ground.

If they entered a climbing stall, could it be for the reverse reason?  - Lift the nose, decelerate, assume they're falling so lift the nose more?  But that still assumes that they ignored their instruments / their instruments weren't working (including the stall warning light / buzzer), plus these would be instrument-rated pilots who already know all this stuff.  Guess we gotta wait to see what else they find out.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 12:52 | 5605326 optimator
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PT, even seasoned experienced pilots find it very hard to make snap decisions based on their instruments as they should when their reflexes tell them something else.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 08:44 | 5604572 q99x2
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Unfortunately they are not likely to find any survivors. Uncle George, Yum Yum eat em up and his relatives live on Borneo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPlcU0khL6Q

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 09:16 | 5604612 OneTinTrooper
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An old school plane crash.  

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 09:27 | 5604636 papaswamp
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Reports now saying only 3 bodies recovered... But 'shadow' on sea bed spotted.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 09:47 | 5604700 NoWayJose
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What I find unbelievable is that this is only 6 miles from the last reported contact. Where have ALL the searchers been looking? The most logical place to start is a couple of miles in front of the point of last contact! They should have seen this LONG ago.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 09:54 | 5604719 observer007
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QZ8501 & MH370

 

when they found QZ8501 in 3 days why didn't they find MH370 in 8 months?

latest:

http://tersee.com/#!q=QZ8501&t=text

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 10:12 | 5604782 detached.amusement
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because mh370 didnt crash, if it did, we would have found floaters

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 09:58 | 5604732 cherry picker
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Like I said in the last post, it was wind shear and some of you techno people with the redundancy stuff basically replied as if I didn't know what I was talking about.

There is no substitute in life for experience.

The Mayor is right.  The vicitms belong to God.

I feel sorry for those left behind to mourn their loss.  Grief is never an easy emotion to deal with.  However it is their grief, the passengers and crew no longer suffer.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 10:54 | 5604930 smacker
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I think wind shear can be a problem at much lower altitudes, like when a plane is coming into land. At higher altitudes, the plane might drop a coupla thousand feet but this isn't usually a problem when it's flying at 32,000 feet.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 12:47 | 5605313 PT
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I'll have to check my books on this one (ain't got them on me) but I think you're talking about micro-bursts.

Wind shear is when you've got two layers of air with signficantly different horizontal wind speeds, which can create a little havoc when changing altitude from one to the other.

Hell, I'm only telling part right and you're part right.  I just decided to have a better look:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_shear

So it is definitely possible and probable.  But also note from that link:

As the result of the accidents in the 1970s and 1980s, most notably following the 1985 crash of Delta Air Lines Flight 191, in 1988 the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration mandated that all commercial aircraft have on-board wind shear detection systems by 1993. Between 1964 and 1985, wind shear directly caused or contributed to 26 major civil transport aircraft accidents in the U.S. that led to 620 deaths and 200 injuries.[23] Since 1995, the number of major civil aircraft accidents caused by wind shear has dropped to approximately one every ten years, due to the mandated on-board detection as well as the addition of Doppler weather radar units on the ground (NEXRAD).[citation needed] The installation of high-resolution Terminal Doppler Weather Radar stations at many U.S. airports that are commonly affected by wind shear has further aided the ability of pilots and ground controllers to avoid wind shear conditions.[24]

So easily possible, given the situation, but still a crap way to go.  If this is all it is then I think a couple of people will be really miserable and pissed off with themselves.  Disclosure:  but I am no expert.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 13:33 | 5605469 smacker
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Interesting that you mention Delta flight 191 because I remember it well; the VP of my company division was killed on it and the accident was officially put down to windshear which pretty much dispensed with the conspiracy theories going around at the time about how the crash happened.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 11:08 | 5604971 PT
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What?  We still haven't learnt to avoid wind shear?  (or thunderstorms for that matter)?

Could easily be a dumb mistake on someone's part.  I sure wouldn't like to be that someone.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 10:00 | 5604739 SickDollar
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One thing for sure  STAY away from any Asian airlines, it seems the tribe can do what ever they want with them

 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 10:12 | 5604786 GIABO
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You will beleive what your are told, you got it slaves!!!

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 10:41 | 5604883 apocalypticbrother
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It is my opinion that the 40 bodies recovered are cadavers from previous operations. They should probably announce the finding of an intact wallet...

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 11:14 | 5604998 tumblemore
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Seems like it's easy to find fwreckage when you're not deliberately looking in the wrong place.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 11:17 | 5605005 nostromo17
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“Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you” 
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Tue, 12/30/2014 - 11:16 | 5605006 nostromo17
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“If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers.” 
Thomas PynchonGravity's Rainbow
Tue, 12/30/2014 - 11:20 | 5605011 nostromo17
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6 miles back...so came down a little steeper than 45 degrees. What position does that imply engines off?

 

 
Tue, 12/30/2014 - 12:07 | 5605169 Bankster Kibble
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Now there is ANOTHER AirAsia flight that overshot a runway in the Philippines.  All on board safe, thank God.  What is it with these Malaysia-flagged airlines?

http://sputniknews.com/asia/20141230/1016399028.html

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 12:59 | 5605354 escapeefromOZ
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Its sounds like another false flag . The CEO of AsiaAir apparently sold over 900 thosands shares of the company a day before . Coincidence ?

And then a Chinese blogger predicted 2 weeks ago that a disaster woudl happen . He advised against travelling by AsiaAir ! Coincidence ?

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/12/busted-airasia-ceo-tony-fer...

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 13:41 | 5605487 bid the soldier...
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I thought about this possibility when AirAsia Flight QZ8501 went missing.

Today "(another) AirAsia plane has skidded off a runway in the Philippines just days after flight QZ8501 crashed into the sea." and reinforced my original thought.

So I wasn't too surprised to see this story on Sputniknews.com a few minutes after I read about the skid-off today.

http://sputniknews.com/asia/20141230/1016394698.html

If we are going to be in a large, long recession for some time to come, the Western airline industry can't afford to share air travel revenue, which is a zero sum game, with the lesser, non-white airlines of the world.

What better way to pull potential customers away from these lesser air lines and force them to fly the white Western ones, than by blowing their flights out of the sky? 

And in the scheme of things several hundred unintended consequences is nothing more than forcing a wedding party to move because America's first negro president wants to play a round of golf.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 13:49 | 5605513 bid the soldier...
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This is precisely what Radical Marijuana has been talking about for years.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 14:08 | 5605577 besnook
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malaysia is muslim. is the purpose to create a muslim uprising in the pacific to give the usa reason to engage militarily in china's back yard to physically control trade routes.

is malaysia being used as an example for the rest of the se asia/pacific countries to get onboard tpp or else?

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