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Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:27 | 5619397 knukles
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Your Progressive Nachtmare

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:34 | 5619412 MisterX
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Once the people are indoctrinated with nationalistic beliefs, and the infrastructure to protect them from some constantly-changing and ever-expanding definition of an enemy is in place, there is no ability for the people to regain liberty. By the time all of the pieces are in place, not only is opportunity to regain freedom, but the will to achieve freedom has also evaporated. -George Orwell

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:42 | 5619436 Cognitive Dissonance
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Almost there.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:50 | 5619447 El Oregonian
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Something smells awfully fishy with the Kenyan...

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 22:08 | 5619602 TeamDepends
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Wookies love tuna.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 22:59 | 5619694 SafelyGraze
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we have always been friends with cuba

 

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 23:14 | 5619720 nmewn
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I say we trade Obama for five Gitmo prisoners and send them on a free all expenses paid flight to DC...kind of a reverse Sgt. Bergdahl kinda thingy.

What could possibly go wrong? ;-)

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 02:23 | 5620044 Bananamerican
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You're forgetting this "country's" batting average of late...
I'll lay odds 99% of those guys in Gitmo were simple peasant camel jockeys that some shithead neighbor of theirs dropped a dime on for the American reward money. "Oh most DEFINITELY! He is being VICIOUS Al Kaida man even TODAY mem sahib!"
The rest of Gitmo was about giving American sadists sumpin to do and .gov some folks to point at as Terrists so's they could fleece Amerikan taxpayers better

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 16:57 | 5621257 elephant
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Why do so few people get this?

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 23:49 | 5619805 Implied Violins
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That comment both made me laugh and puke in my mouth. Kudos!

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:50 | 5619449 SuperRay
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When people have nothing to lose they strap bombs to their bodies...

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 23:32 | 5619763 TBT or not TBT
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Uh, no.   It's when they think they'll get 72 virgins to use for eternity as compensation for their righteous cause centered around pathetic victim fantasies fostered by full blown Islam.   

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 05:32 | 5619817 Counterpunch
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Anyone talking about 72 virgins has been satisfied to get explications of Islam from people mostly interested in villifying a group of 1.3 billion based on the actions of less than 0.01%.

http://www.justislam.co.uk/product.php?products_id=216

 

And no, Virginia, Iran never said they would wipe Israel off the map either.

 

Dear junkers - ample truth of both propositions.  The Koran does not mention 72 virgins, and Ahmadinejad did not say 'wipe Israel off the map'.  I know hasbara has nothing to do with the truth, but aren't you even a little ashamed that you are too lazy to check as to whether your most cherished anti-Muslim myths are false?   You're essentially junking the truth because you prefer Zionist lies.

 

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 10:18 | 5620383 Uncle Remus
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Zionist lies

It's what's for dinner. Breakfast and lunch. Kosher, natch.

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 10:53 | 5620444 conscious being
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More Zionist lies.

McClatchy, the Sacramento Bee, Darrell Steinberg and Islamaphobia Denying Nazi-Zionist Collusion by ALISON WEIR

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/03/04/denying-nazi-zionist-collusion/

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 11:15 | 5620468 Grimaldus
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Oh really? You forgot to mention what the Koran DOES say, like the verses of violence:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm

Straight from the Koran dude, no islamic scholar on the planet can deny.

Allah does not preach love anywhere, in fact Allah hates non-beleivers with a passion unrivaled in the history of hate speech.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Quran-Hate.htm

There is your truth, there and in the rivers of blood shed daily in the name of Islam.

Here is more truth:

"Muhammad is a narcissist, a pedophile, a mass murderer,
a terrorist, a misogynist, a lecher, a cult leader, a madman
a rapist, a torturer, an assassin and a looter."

Former Muslim Ali Sina offered $50,000 to anyone
who could prove otherwise based on Islamic texts. 
The reward has gone unclaimed

F*ck you and F*ck Islam.

Grimaldus

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 11:29 | 5620493 McCormick No. 9
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One could say exacty the same for the God of the Old Testament.

It just seems to be the nature of mono-Gods everywhere.

 

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 11:59 | 5620529 Uncle Remus
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LOL. "mono-Gods"

"[O]r Robert James Davis if you prefer" - FZ

 

(yeah, I know, oblique as fuck)

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 16:08 | 5621120 Grimaldus
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Geez do I really have to spell out the obvious? None of the gods of the old testament are chopping off heads now dude. Only Islam is at war, none of the other religions are.

Grimaldus

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 17:03 | 5621272 elephant
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I guess you can say that if you aren't Palestinian, Lebanese, Syrian, or Iraqi.

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 11:48 | 5620515 Uncle Remus
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Get back to us when you are fluent in Old Arabic, Aramaic et al, and not relying on transliterations for your mythology.

Mon, 01/05/2015 - 00:41 | 5622507 AE911Truth
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It is the purpose of religion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xesn6DXbvWE

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 02:20 | 5620043 Hugh_Jorgan
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No. When multiple generations of people have been raised from birth on a stready diet of hatred and blame for one or more demographic groups... they strap bomba to their bodies.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:51 | 5619452 acetinker
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I don't know a single soul who knows what you know. I musta fucked up.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:55 | 5619461 johnnymustardseed
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Doesn't anyone get the irony of a prison in Cuba that holds prisoners that were tortured and never charged with a crime and people like Rubio complain about Cuba's human rights violations?

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 21:41 | 5619558 Oldwood
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Its a shame you can't tell the difference.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 23:57 | 5619819 Counterpunch
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It's a bigger shame you don't see the hypocrisy.

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 02:26 | 5620052 Bananamerican
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Yeah Oldwood cuz we did it Cuza freedumb

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 12:04 | 5620549 Uncle Remus
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I'm guessing the nuance is lost on a majority. Perhaps you could enlighten?

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 22:26 | 5619633 acetinker
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Yeah, Johnny, there's a few of us that do.  Damn few.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 23:20 | 5619732 nmewn
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I was thinking my irony meter pegged out and shattered when DiFi reported on what she has known for years and gave a no comment on droning entire families off the face of the planet...to get one guy.

But like I said, my irony meter is broke, apparently along with her moral compass ;-)

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 05:18 | 5620170 Element
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I just want to put Cheney, Bush and all CIA upper rank officers into an Element-administered water-boarding program for three years, and see if at the end of it they think it amounts to 'torture'? I'm sure they'll be just fine with it, in fact Cheney would probably become conditioned to it, and feel deprived and aggrieved if I stopped it cold-turkey. So I'd probably have to really choke that cunt out several times a day for a few more years, to keep him contented.

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 05:29 | 5620184 Counterpunch
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imagine what Cheney could be induced to tell you about the truth of 9/11...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AikIALXwSmI

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 07:42 | 5620256 nmewn
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You should sign up for the Family Pack deal, it comes with a few Poles, a Hispanic, a couple Aussies, ten Pakis, a former Speaker of the House and some Uzbek guy named Herman...lol.

Its a much better value ;-)

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 10:24 | 5620387 Uncle Remus
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Dude, what's with all the Uzbek hating?

 

 

Although, trying to walk (run!) across a major intersection in Tashkent would make a good Jackass episode.

 

;-)

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 11:57 | 5620536 Uncle Remus
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Dude, time to go digital on that meter - or better yet, software-defined.

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 02:20 | 5620037 tplink
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my co-worker's ex-wife makes $84 every hour on the internet . She has been laid off for six months but last month her check was $18827 just working on the internet for a few hours. go to this website... www.works3.com

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 10:26 | 5620390 Uncle Remus
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She has been laid off and on for six months...

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:30 | 5619402 Callz d Ballz
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The fact that we even have such a statistic is disgusting.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:30 | 5619405 stant
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Always Gota be a new war to fight. And a new boogyman. A Hannibal for Rome

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:30 | 5619407 Jack Burton
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I think we all need to admit something about foreign policy in the USA. There is no Obama foreign policy, there was no Bush foreign policy. There is a large group of like minded  "deep state" people in high positions in government, defense and corporate entities. It is fair to call them Neoconservative Zionists, as their self proclaimed foreign policy is radical, war centric and totally corporate and zionist. These folks are the type of "deep state" people who work inside politics and government, they are the gate keepers for candidates to high office. Any viable candidate must speak with these "deep staters" through various organizations. Like AIPAC, the Democratic Leadership Council, and various conservative republican organizations. Once cleared to run, they can then compete for a nomination, secure in the knowedge that the Foreign Policy managers have approved them.

Obama and Bush followed the same policies, these are prepared in a number of different places and levels, then coordinated in the State department and pentagon, CIA and NSA. Then our leaders carry out the policies they have been given to carry out.

Our foreign policy speaks for itself. War, aggression, war, threats, sanctions, war, more threats, aggression and more sanctions and war. Anyone the Zionists want to destroy the preident will command be destroyed. We know their hit lists.

Here is an example, excuse the translation in some places. This is "deep state" foreign policy aimed at Russia, Obama only carriers it out, he does not MAKE IT>

"the US is in a rush to actively use all available resources to destabilize Russia, to most efficiently use the remnants of the Ukrainian statehood, they only can that through the intensification of the civil war in Ukraine and its spilling it in to new territories. Therefore, we should expect that during 2015 the entire territory of Ukraine will be one way or another engulfed in the flames of civil war"

There is no independent presidential foreign policy.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:45 | 5619439 MrButtoMcFarty
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GOP=DEM=INC

Nothing changes until K Street burns.

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 10:25 | 5620391 Uncle Remus
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Nuke. Orbit. Sure.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:48 | 5619445 Ignatius
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JFK - murdered.  Carter - October surprise/sabotaged Iran rescue.  Reagan - attempted murder.

Any questions?

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 10:27 | 5620393 Uncle Remus
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Why stop @ Reagan?

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 21:01 | 5621968 Time for Titus
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Because the last four Presidents did not challenge the deep state.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:54 | 5619456 Sub MOA
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WWIII - The Calm Before The Storm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MgZgKgl7N8

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 05:37 | 5620192 Counterpunch
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great vid.  scg does great work.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:55 | 5619458 logicalman
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This may help. Certainly worth the watch/listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJPwM8nehkQ

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 21:09 | 5619493 kchrisc
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"It is fair to call them Neoconservative Zionists, as their self proclaimed foreign policy is radical, war centric and totally corporate and zionist."

Here, here! Someone that gets it.

The banksters need to repay us.

 

Some may ask what is Zionism: Zionism is a societal force from outside a society applied from within by a group of people residing amongst the society's people. These "Amongst" work to control government, the courts, the military and the media so as to be able to harnesses the labor, product, and blood of the victimized society for the benefit of their foreign minders.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 21:41 | 5619560 Sub MOA
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And for those making a "list"  of those jewish bastards here ya go ;)

http://thezog.wordpress.com/         hope ya got lots of ink and paper

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 21:47 | 5619569 dexter_morgan
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linky no worky

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 22:10 | 5619607 OldPhart
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backspace the blanks out

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 22:14 | 5619613 Sub MOA
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I did lol the page comes up under the site with a 404 page not found although the right hand column has the lists in blue

 

try this one

 

http://thezog.info/

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 21:42 | 5619562 rejected
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Good write jack. Never truer words wrote.

You'd think the Ukes would sit back and reflect upon their decision to become a u.s lackey. If they had stayed the original course they would have their cheap gas from Russia. Crimea would still be part of Ukraine. They would not be killing each other. Their money would still be worth something. They would still have their factories in the east.There would be no round after round of draft.

They exchanged everything for a different master. Their new master doesn't give a damn one way or another about them, is only after what resources they have and is using Ukrainian lives to pester Russia. Now they're infected with nazi's whom are doing everything possible to start a unwinnable war with Russia. More Ukrainians dead. All they have to do is look around the world at the smoldering ruins of nations the u.s democratized. Iraq... Ruins. Afghanistan... Ruins. Libya... total disaster.

To Ukrainians: You really need to reconsider your options,,, before it's too late.

 

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 21:43 | 5619563 Oldwood
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Ultimately it is the State department that controls our foreign policies.

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 02:39 | 5620070 silverer
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No, that's just the place you go to work to be a scapegoat.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 23:02 | 5619704 the grateful un...
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i want to know who THEY are? nice shot otherwise

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 23:25 | 5619745 nmewn
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"the US is in a rush to actively use all available resources to destabilize Russia, to most efficiently use the remnants of the Ukrainian statehood, they only can that through the intensification of the civil war in Ukraine and its spilling it in to new territories. Therefore, we should expect that during 2015 the entire territory of Ukraine will be one way or another engulfed in the flames of civil war"

Can I get a link to which "deep state mouthpiece" said that?

TIA ;-)

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 23:55 | 5619813 Counterpunch
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Obama advisor Brzezinski said much the same back in 1997.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Chessboard

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ENG412A.html

 

Carl Gershman, the Zionist Neocon Jew in charge of the NED, one of the major organization involved in the coup has referred to Ukraine as "the big prize" in relation to weakening/encircling Russia.

http://www.stateofnature.org/?p=7553

A similar sentiment is repeated in countless articles and white papers by the CFR/Foreign Policy, Brookings, and the usual neocon suspects.

 

The policy of encircling Russia should be obvious from the expansion of NATO in venues {e.g. the Baltics} that were incredibly aggressive.  Israeli involvement in Georgia  [the Defence Minister during the "war" following Georgia's murder of 16 Russian peacekeepers, there by agreement in South Ossetia, was, oddly, a Jew who had lived in Israel for years and no doubt had ties to Mossad]

And no - Russia was not the aggressor in Georgia any more than it was Ukraine.  Georgia got the green light to attack both peacekeepers and civilians in South Ossetia - people who are not Russian, but did not want to be part of Georgia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ykJaN0Q9PI

NATO and Israel are of course also involved in using foreign mercenary terrorists in Syria to topple Assad, and again, energy concerns are key.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article176200.html

 

Israel is already, reportedly, stealing Lebanese, Syrian, and Palestinian gas, and rumor is [and I do use the word rumour deliberately] that it is receiving gas provided by "ISIS" - via Turkey, relabeling it, and sending it on to Europe.

 

As it happens, the Oded Yinon plan likely has more to do with all of these events for the "deep state" than even oil/gas/pipeline concerns, which are a secondary focus.


http://mycatbirdseat.com/2014/07/the-unfolding-of-yinons-zionist-plan-fo...

http://www.voltairenet.org/article184806.html

 

I hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 10:05 | 5620369 nmewn
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I simply asked for Jack's "deep state" link, it was not provided, so I went and found it.

Its from something called Fort Russ, a very pro-Russia blog, originally from a guy named Rostislav Ischenko who runs an outfit called Center for Systems Analysis and Forecasting in Kiev and it can be found here:

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/01/de-americanization-is-needed-no-less.html

More of his opinions, here:

https://tigr.net/2936/2014/08/13/what-awaits-ukraine-an-interview-with-rostislav-ishchenko/

I asked for the source of the quote.

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 10:27 | 5620396 Uncle Remus
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Too much to ask, apparently.

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 11:19 | 5620479 nmewn
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Apparently so ;-)

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 00:10 | 5619851 Counterpunch
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http://www.voltairenet.org/article178638.html

There is quite simply extensive and excessive Jewish-and-Zionist control of mass news and entertainment media, political campaigns and campaign donations, congressional staffers, and virtually outright control of State and Treasury.

Anyone pointing this out is naturally smeared, as is anyone suggesting a large minority of Jews are primarily loyal to Israel and International Jewry - a charge made across vast distances of time and space from the ancient Romans to the medieval English to the Russian resisters of Bolshevism - you see excessive media control in the US, UK, Sweden, Australia - to the extent it seems deliberate.

Obviously this doesn't mean "all" Jews - but there is no non Jewish, non Zionist equivalent to the Perle, Feith, Wolfowitz, Wurmser, Cohen, etc. etc. cabal of Israel Firsters.

 

Along with the votes provided by the Zionized Evangelicals, the "rapture" concoted by Scoffield, these people represent endless war.

 

Note that not all Jews are 'Zionists' - and that sometimes it isn't relevant.  So hollywood, for example, is in essence controlled by "Jews" - not "Zionists." 

 

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19

http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/jewishp/media/jews_do_control_me...

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/06/gary-oldman-becomes-a-paria...

 

Ben Stein also made similar observations of the obvious.

 

http://rense.com/general21/bet.htm

 

It's the same for news media - and I think there's a literal concerted Jewish effort to control as much media as possible - you saw wildly disproportionate Jewish ownership of tv and radio and newspapers in Russia, and Ukraine, in Hungary, Netherlands, and on and on.

 

So the power of Jews, many but not all of whom are Likudnik Zionists, combined with the Zionized Christian Evangelical useful idiots, will use the United States as sword and shield for a Greater Israel that wishes to control much more of the middle east.  And they have merged with the "Globalists" like Brzezinski who want to focus on Russia because Russia supports Iran which supports Syria and lebanon, regions of which Israel covets for water and gas.

 

So long as people are brainwashed to believe speaking truth as to wildly, disproportionate, Jewish media, government and financial power, is "hate" - endless war and the murder of tens of thousands of children is literally guaranteed.

 

But it is better, I suppose to do nothing to get in their way than to be called a name used more as a red herring than a valid moral objection to falsehood or unfair inference.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:35 | 5619415 WTFUD
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Obama's been on a phishing expedition from day ONE.

One day , hopefully sooner, rather than later , we hope to see this CUNT in one of those orange jumpsuits.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:39 | 5619417 Sub MOA
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As a further lesson heres an explanation of propoganda:

The use of propoganda is meant to bring a complex issue to light via simpler means not through lies or deception but through images and language the "common" man might understand.  To "propogandize" a lie is to simplify that lie in the same fashion and therefore becomes the ultimate poison, the ultimate lie.

The use of the word has become poisoned by the great liars, as with virtually all modern propoganda for the jews are masters of the art of "spin doctoring".

 

Thus cartoons make excellent "propoganda"  truthful or untruthful

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 04:40 | 5620055 JuliaS
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Cartoons is what we have for every single president, when he's on the way out. That's when the media grows balls of the sudden (when it has public opinion on its side). Let's see one of them take a voting record of these elected motherfuckers and do a cartoon on the day they're inaugurated. Doesn't happen often, does it? I think it's all part of the strategy, to make us hate the last guy on the way out, so we're more eager to accept the next carbon coppy banker puppet that replaces him.

Obama's a caricature? Well, Bush was a caricature, Clinton was a caricature, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon. You name it! Same shit, different day.

So yeah - fun to poke at the obvious, drawing pictures of someone who's already served 2 full terms, but what difference does it make? All it does is give the next guy his talking points - his cues. "Aren't you tired of this and that! Remember the last guy who did this and that! I promise to blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda!"

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:40 | 5619428 Yen Cross
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 Ebolanomics.

  ~ What you can't see or don't hear about won't hurt you.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 21:21 | 5619512 joego1
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We have to executive order it before you can see it or hear it.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:41 | 5619429 Peter Pan
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What is the statistic for the people coming out of Homeland Security training, turning on their fellow citizens?

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:44 | 5619437 Sub MOA
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un-recorded as of yet

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:57 | 5619462 logicalman
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They turned on their fellow citizens when thay signed up, so I guess 100%

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 21:25 | 5619518 Peter Pan
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Thank you Logicalman. Exactly the point I was trying to make.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 23:27 | 5619755 nmewn
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Ding ding ding!!!

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:45 | 5619434 Dre4dwolf
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The proper way to scrap a defunct program is to thermal cleanse it and not reapeat the same mistake again.

As in.

Evacuate all U.S. Personnel off Gitmo, hours before a B2 Spirit drops a "care package" on it.

 

There is nothing wrong with interrogating potential terrorists.

But when you are water-boarding someone, and cutting appendages off, for the most part, any human being will tell you what you want to hear just to make the pain stop.

 

If someone started snipping fingers off your hand demanding you cough up some information, you will down-right start making shit up just to keep them listening to you for as long as possible instead of chopping fingers off.

Torture doesn't work, unless you have evidence before hand that 100% makes it certain this person was in the position to have known the information you are trying to extract.

 

In anycase, if these terrorists being released, were not terrorists going IN to gitmo, you can be damned sure they will turn into terrorists LEAVING GITMO. . . 

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:44 | 5619441 Sub MOA
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Great point so when do we start removing appendages from O and friends?  Scissors ready :)

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 10:14 | 5620378 Uncle Remus
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You should probably swab those scissors down with alcohol or something. After all, you've been crawling around on the floor under a desk with them. Eeewwww.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 21:28 | 5619526 Peter Pan
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The other problem with places like Gitmo is that if enemy combatants know they are going to be treated like animals and not given any human respect, they are much more likely to fight to the bitter end rather than give up. And the stories of how fellow combatants have been treated is sure to inspire them and their hatred.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 22:24 | 5619631 Bazza McKenzie
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Exactly what finger snipping occured?

You seem to understand very little about the process, just your own fantasies.

The process was intended to produce actionable information, not confessions, and since the people being interrogated were in custody, they knew lies were likely to be detected even if that took weeks or months and then they'd be reinterrogated with less willingness to accept their first answers.

Part of the process was sleep deprivation.  After a few days of that you don't think so well, even though your memory is intact.  It becomes increasingly difficult to maintain a web of consistent lies, so the interrogators catch you out and continue the process.

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 00:00 | 5619785 Lore
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I was under the impression that some of it was just sadomasochistic psychopaths getting sexual jollies, a la Abu Ghraib.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 23:59 | 5619825 Sub MOA
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"After a few days of that you don't think so well, even though your memory is intact."

Thats called dellirium and thus leads to even more useless "answers"  what are you fucking svengalli the great or what?   Where's that crystal ball you're looking through as I'm sure it's rose colored.

 

Torture does not afford anything but self gratification of the sadist employing it.  

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 11:25 | 5620473 conscious being
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You need to look beyond your MSM blinders BM. The sanitized "torture  report" that just came out said Gitmo hunger strikers, intentionally had there assholes destroyed. Why don't you sign up for that and see if you consider the treatment torture? Then you can go through life with what they're calling a prolapsed poop-shute. Then again,  maybe you have that already and its no big deal for you? Who new Americans were so into buggery?

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 13:02 | 5620669 hootowl
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Aside from the manifest moral prohibitions, the problem with torture is that the government that believes in it will sooner or later inflict those techniques on its own citizens......Just like  Ovomit's "droning" of anybody, anytime, anywhere.  Sooner or later this presidential psychopath, or another moral cripple, will turn the "droning" and "assassination".... (al la, Andrew Breitbart and his coroner, and charles Hastings, who was investigating John Brennan, the muslime convert who Ovomit appointed to head the CIA and who erased Ovomit's[Soetoro's] passport records.).....  authorizations to include the homeland......in the name of "national security" of course.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 20:59 | 5619469 Fuku Ben
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Control grid calculations

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 21:36 | 5619545 Bemused Observer
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Fuck this terrorist bullshit! Russia should be our ally right now, and that's all I can think about...What a lost opportunity, while we were all off chasing the shiny objects...disgusting.
Terrorism IS a problem, but much of it is our own making.

The trouble is, the people driving have no idea where they're going, forgot to gas-up, and NOW we learn they don't even know HOW to drive...and here we are, doing 85 and counting...

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 05:14 | 5620174 Element
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Agreed!

Unfortunately the 'leaders' on both sides where not and are not half the men and women necessary for that to take place.

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 11:18 | 5620474 conscious being
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Deflection?

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 05:18 | 5620176 Bearwagon
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"STS-51-L, you're GO for throttle-up ..."   ;)

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 11:57 | 5620535 Shitgum Suicide
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Bemused- you say this terrorism is all our fault. What exactly did america do to Pakistan to make them build the MUSLIM BOMB so they could nuke India? Last I looked India wasn't a bastion of capitalism/ Christians or Jews.
I also happen to remember in the 90's these same terrorists blowing up a Buddhist temple that was 100's of years old. What actions did evil America do to cause this?
When the Koran teaches and preaches about killing those that don't agree with you and tells you that it ok to use violence and TERRORISM against them I have a hard time making your connection of it's all Americas fault.
Just look at the Palestinians. If the Palestinians were such good people wouldn't the other Arab nations do their Muslim duty and take them in?

Islam- anything but a religion

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 22:10 | 5619609 Sub MOA
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How come everyones  post has a down vote where are you asshat atleast reply let yourself be known

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 22:38 | 5619654 lolmao500
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Except most gitmo prisoners are innocents people... sending em to gitmo might actually turn em into real terrorists upon release.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 23:01 | 5619699 the grateful un...
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i suppose that everyone who gets a free pass from GITMO will have a microchip installed, and the coordinates of the person will be relayed to CIA Drone strike hdqtrs. release the hounds!

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 11:22 | 5620481 conscious being
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Tgu, I don't think the PTB want to stop the terrorists they have created. If they did, their endless war would end.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 22:57 | 5619685 the grateful un...
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investors business daily? how is Can Slim doing?

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 01:10 | 5619939 dexter_morgan
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Obama has a coherent foreign policy? That is news.

Blank page would depict his FP>

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 01:28 | 5619964 Shawnee
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Hey counterpunch, just like everything else connected to satan's grand achievement, (Islam) what you posted is a lie!

 

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 12:02 | 5620539 Grimaldus
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It is not a lie that Jewish tribes were living in Mecca and Medina is it?  And it is also not a lie that that Mohammed killed or enslaved all of them, with some 900 of the men and boys of one Jewish tribe by beheading?

So when do the Jewish tribes of Mecca and Medina, living there long before Islam reared it's bloody head get the right to return?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/History.htm

Listen dhimmwit, I don't give a shit what the izzys or the muslims do. America should not be involved in the affairs of any sovereign nation and should not give one goddamn dime of support to any. Fuck them all. If they want to kill each other off, that is their business.

You stink of progressive dhimmitude, so I have to ask how do you feel about Hillary Clinton's war crime destruction of the sovereign state of Libya?

Grimaldus

 

 

 

 

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 10:43 | 5620397 falak pema
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So catch and never release; even if the "catch" is a manifestly anti-constitutional,  recurrent action since Nam slam;  a criminal cancer gone generalised in the state apparatus.

How come the original catcher, GWB, who initiated Patriotic Gitmo and Abu Ghraib type fervor in Arab lands, was such a friend of those bearded ones who RUN the oil patch ?

How come the CIA and ISI of Paki militarist "friend since 50 years" created "the bearded one of Taliban-Caliban fame " ?

Your artist needs his head examined. And so do some of your posters.

Pax Americana's history in this domain of torture and torturer's philosophy, along with moral inversion of burden of proof when it suits the torturer to play at being terrorist inhibitor, is a page out of the Roman Noir of the Inquisitorial Order.

The Netty boys say the same thing about Palestine's claim to join the War Crimes tribunal for judging eventual crimes committed by Israel's army in Gaza and West Bank : No Israeli soldier will ever be tried by a war crimes tribunal.

So War Crime Tribunals, according to this superior logic,  are ONLY for the inferior deniers of third world terrorista citizens. Goes without saying all third world citizens are POTENTIAL terrorists...

We have thus "squared the circle". And Obama is now an ambiguous Caesar when dealing with this virulent imperial mantra, iconic dogma of past predatory plays.

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 10:30 | 5620403 Uncle Remus
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[sound of respirator]

This is exciting.

[sound of respirator]

Self-destruction is gentler to the Emperor's defense budget.

[sound of respirator]

*snort*

[sound of respirator]

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 11:01 | 5620452 Baby Eating Dingo22
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Anyone working on the connection between Mario Cuomo and Elli Mae both dying at 82 within days of each other?

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 11:15 | 5620470 Shawnee
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counterpunch, EVERYTHING you post is either a lie or steeped in virulent hatred, but that's not surprising since you worship the father of lies, satan/ allah

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 11:36 | 5620499 conscious being
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Address the claims in the article and drop the ad hominem slur. Who are you? Darryl  Steinberg?

Who are you responding to, genius? Or did you just feel the need to have a general shout out at CounterPunch?

If you can bring yourself to read the article you most likely are refering to, you will see that the claims being made re, Zioinst, NAZI collaboration are being made by ... Jews. Is your head exploding yet? Here's the link.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/03/04/denying-nazi-zionist-collusion/

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 15:12 | 5620996 Shawnee
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claims aren't facts son.  and like everyone else, all jews aren'

t saints. and no it wasn't a general shout out, follow the thread, if you can.

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 15:17 | 5621005 Shawnee
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is daryl steinberg a conscious being too?

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 19:39 | 5621722 conscious being
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Good question.

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 12:44 | 5620632 jomama
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These incessant comics about a telemprompter-controlled puppet are formulaic and tiresome at best.

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 16:31 | 5621168 Grimaldus
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I kinda agree, like just arrest that criminal bastard rather than waste energy writing comics about him. Have to say though, the comics about the criminal usurper in chief are better than the disgusting cocksucking the MSM gives him.

Grimaldus

 

Sun, 01/04/2015 - 15:20 | 5621022 Shawnee
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it's easy, just ad hominem and stir!

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