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Did The United Arab Emirates Just Declare War On Greece?
Just over 4 months ago, the US was furious as the "mysterious" bloc launching bombing raids on Libya was identified as consisting of Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Egypt. This weekend saw another "mysterious" bombing raid, but as AP reports, this time it was not on Libya directly but on a Greek-owned tanker ship at the eastern Libyan port of Darna (killing 2 sailors). The Greeks have strongly condemned this "unprovoked and cowardly" act and are taking all necessary steps to identify and punish the perpetrators.
In August, the "mysterious" Libyan bombers were identified...
That party, or rather, parties has been revealed as Egypt and the United Arab Emirates, which as the NYT reports, "have secretly teamed up to launch airstrikes against Islamist-allied militias battling for control of Tripoli, Libya, four senior American officials said, in a major escalation between the supporters and opponents of political Islam."
But what is surprising is not the intervention: after all, hardly a day passes now when there isn't some small to medium political invasion taking place somewhere, in a world in which newsflow no longer affects anything. It is that both countries decided to roundly ignore advising the one country which previously had made it quite clear it has explicit national interests in Libya: the United States.
The United States, the officials said, was caught by surprise: Egypt and the Emirates, both close allies and military partners, acted without informing Washington or seeking its consent, leaving the Obama administration on the sidelines.
It gets worse: Egyptian officials explicitly denied the operation to American diplomats, the officials said. It is almost as if the theme of ignoring and/or mocking US superpower status exhibited most recently by both China and Russia, is gradually spreading to even the more "banana" republics around the world.
And now another "mysterious" bombing, as AP reports...
An unidentified warplane has bombed a Greek-owned tanker ship at the eastern Libyan port of Darna, killing two crew members and injuring two more, Greek authorities said Monday.
The Liberian-flagged Araevo was chartered by Libya's state-run National Oil Corporation, Greece's Foreign Ministry said.
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Darna is a base for Islamic extremists who have pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group. Widespread militia violence has plunged Libya into chaos less than four years after a NATO-backed uprising toppled and killed longtime dictator Moammar Gadhafi.
The victims were identified as a Greek and a Romanian national. Araevo's crew of 26 consisted of 21 Filipinos, three Greeks and two Romanians.
Greece's Merchant Marine Ministry said the vessel had 12,600 metric tons of fuel on board. Damage is still being assessed.
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Greece is not happy...
Greece condemns “unprovoked and cowardly” air strike on Greek-owned tanker Araevo as it was at anchor 2 miles from Derna in eastern Libya, Foreign Ministry says in e-mailed statement.
Vessel was chartered by Libya’s National Oil Corp, had worked for several years without any problems on Mersa El Brega to Derna route
Attack killed one Greek, one Romanian sailor
Greek govt to take all necessary steps with Libyan authorities, despite unsettled situation, to identify, punish perpetrators, pay compensation to victims’ families
Greek Govt in contact with UN special representative in Libya Bernardino Leon and EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini
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So who did it this time?
One can't help but wonder, if the Saudi/UAE bloc is doing everything in its power to eliminate all competition: from Russia to Venezuela to US shale; why not anyone transacting with a bunch of Libyan terrorists?
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One worthless country bombed a vacation destination's boat?
Awesome.
not a boat. a tanker. a fuel tanker. very curious. those things are usually bright red, and explode easily. perhaps a diesel tanker? I'm sure CNN is airing a lot of senseless questions at this moment, so that they can neglect to report the facts when they finally arrive
Probably the same people who bombed the USS Liberty?
Hey! That attack was a mistake. LBJ and John McStain's daddy both said so. Good enough for me.
News regarding Libya will NOT be covered by the MSM. It is to be covered up. When it goes full Islamic State, Americans will never know. Obama and Hillary can't blame this one on Bush, so all they can do is pretend it doesn't exist.
egad
this is worse than when fredonia declared war on sylvania.
get groucho on the line, stat.
if there's a carrier group in the Med then this flight was on American radar for its duration
can't we blame the North Koreans or the Russians somehow?
They already changed the story to say it was a Libyan Jet Fighter.
CAIRO (AP) — Fighter jets dispatched by Libya's internationally recognized government bombed a Greek-owned tanker ship at an eastern city controlled by Islamist extremists Monday, killing two crew members and wounding two, Libyan and Greek officials said.
The bombing highlights the chaos that's gripped Libya since its 2011 civil war that deposed and killed dictator Moammar Gadahfi. Libyan officials apologized for the bombing as the Greek Foreign Ministry demanded compensation for the victims' families and punishment for those behind the attack.
Libyan military spokesman Ahmed al-Mesmari said jets struck the Liberian-flagged Araevo twice in Darna before his government learned the vessel was commissioned by the local power station. Darna is a base for Islamic extremists who have pledged allegiance to the Islamic State group.
STORY: A $4,000 Paint Job to Keep the Pentagon's New $400 Billion Fighter Jets Running"We had no information (about the tanker). We treated it as a dangerous and suspicious target that threatens national security," al-Mesmari told The Associated Press. "We regret the loss of lives."
Libya's state-run National Oil Corp. contradicted al-Mesmari's account, saying it informed all parties it contracted the ship.
"This incident will negatively impact the arrival of oil tankers to Libyan ports in the future, which will consequently affect the ability to provide fuel to different regions," the corporation said in a statement.
Surface based radar would be worthless for seeing stuff just a few miles inland, and that's if they were close to the coast there. Airborne radars were not there. But they do have satellites that monitor almost every region in the world. They can pick up EM spectrum (radio/radar) and IR. Following a jet in flight is easy. Takeoffs from airstrips are commonly tracked and reported. An explosion triggers reports. They know who did it guaranteed.
The biggest revelation is that they cut the US out. I think this shows there are commonly held plans for the future among almost everyone except the US and Europe.
Remember the Maine (opolis)!
WOAR!!! MOAR WAR!!
"They hate us for our freedoms, so we should eliminate the remaining freedoms and bomb the shit out of some 3rd world country or other" --Gov.Media.Sheople.wearesofucked.com
Das Rayciss!
Could it be related to Grexit?
Don't tell us that this plane was not on anyone's radar for so long? The US should know for sure!
Isn't it refreshing when a country performs a military act and doesn't post it on youtube the next day or discuss it in a stupid presidential press conference.
they aren't asking for permission...or forgiveness. done.
Greece should invoke NATO's article 5.
for a tanker with a Liberian flag?
You are most likely spot on, even if the Greek constitution exempts Greek ship owners from paying taxes in Greece anyway. Those Greek ship owner oligarchs are among the worst scum on this planet.
And that´s why: Hip, hip hurray to the UAE airforce and please, sink more of those "Greek" tankers, they deserve it. (Try to hit them when empty)
There is no Article unless America says its an ARTICLE LOL
Sure why not. Who needs to follow rules anymore? It a free for all.
Probably just protecting the country from EBOLA...
It's a Greek tanker flying a Liberian flag with my guess, stolen ISIS oil.
Edit: Perfect formula for trouble.
NEWS FLASH!! CNN reports "unconfirmed intelligence sources indicate Putin behind attack".
Nobody will know for certain until the FBI investigates and
tells us based on classified info which cannot be revealed.
Has to be Kim Jung-Un... Why? Because the FBI says so... Bwhahahahahha....
No baklava for you!
When was the last time the Greeks invaded Arabia?
I think it's due.
Here ya go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_in_Egypt
Egyptian payback for the SEA PEOPLES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Peoples
The Sea Peoples were a confederacy of naval raiders who harried the coastal towns and cities of the Mediterranean region between approximately 1276-1178 BCE, concentrating their efforts especially on Egypt. The nationality of the Sea Peoples remains a mystery as the only records we have of their activities are mainly Egyptian sources who only describe them in terms of battle (such as the record from the Stele at Tanis which reads, in part, “They came from the sea in their war ships and none could stand against them”).
Names of what may have been the tribes which comprised the Sea Peoples have been recorded as the Sherden, the Sheklesh, Lukka, Tursha and Akawasha. Outside Egypt, they also frequently assaulted the coastal regions of the Hittite Empire, the Levant and other areas around the Mediterranean coast. Their origin and identity has been suggested (and debated) to be Etruscan/Trojan to Italian, Philistine, Mycenaen and even Minoan but, as no accounts discovered thus far shed any more light on the question than what is presently known, any such claims must remain mere conjecture.
Payback is a bitch.
Not sure why this happened. Oil loaded on ships from all Libyan terminals is Libyan Government controlled; no terminal is controlled by the Islamic rebels (yet). Furthermore, the payment for all oil loaded for export is made into Government bank accounts that are held offshore in an undisclosed nation; again, the rebels receive no revenue from this oil. Unless this act was carried out by someone sympathetic to the Islamists, it just undermined the official Libyan Government. Not sure why the UAE, Saudi Arabia or Egypt want to further destabilize the Libyan Government.
http://guidetoshipregistries.com/sample/liberia
Hmm, one wonders if the Libyans were accepting payment in something other than petrodollars?
First thought that came to mind as I read the article.
Haus-Targaryen, aren't you fed up with being a turd?
Easy to say that libya and greece don't matter in a bubble, but it is pretty telling.
First off, as was noted by anyone with a brain AS THIS WAR WAS HAPPENING, NATO installed the same stripe of radical islamist terrorists that they purported to be fighting in the "war on terror."
Libya went from the switzerland of africa to a failed state and a launch pad for terror operations.
I find it curious what is happening now. A middle eastern country on its own seems to be working to change the balance of power there and I wonder what their angle is. Our best hope would be for the tribal faction loyal to gaddafi to take libya over again but that would only ever happen if the west wavers from their past and current policy which is doubtful.
It wasn't me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFldSKSCTkk
So what does the US do now? Bomb the Saudi oil fields to save the other producers? I'll bet the subjects come up during those intense intellectual exchanges in the loop.
No.
ZIRP has consequences...the shortest term of which accrue to all those who cannot get it.
If the US was not so focused on self-destruction, if Washington and Moscow were not so focused on yesterday's battles, then the US and Russia would be making energy alliances... like Russia gets the China energy market, to the extent they can fill it; and the US gets the Western Hemisphere and Oceania energy supply contracts; the two split the middle eastern assets and provide to Africa on a continual ad hoc basis based on simple comptetition.
Not to discount Europe, you understand, simply commenting on what would be beneficial to two of the three largest producers of energy.
simple competition, haha, good one
"US gets the Western Hemisphere and Oceania energy supply contracts"
the US is a huge energy importer. Exactly how the fuck are we supposed to provide energy to other countries???
But US-based Oil Companies assets are not limited to those within the territorial US.
That is the difference.
The banking cartel wants it all. There will be no compromises with nations that don't come to heel.
Well definitely the USSA solution will be to bomb. Discussion will take place around the what, who and when, friend or foe.
It's the only play left for Greece- history wins....
So when does the bombing raid on the parties buying oil from ISIS begin? Oh wait, they do the House of Saud and decendents of David bidding.
First off, you're right. The EU as I recall was outed as being one such customer. That being all said, any idea that ISIS is reaping huge money from selling massive amounts of oil in my view is fantasy.
Some? Yes. Lots? No. In an active war where they have a fluid swath of desert they control and no air force, operating an oilfield at anywhere full capacity or any capacity presents serious challenges.
one way to get prices up
"One can't help but wonder, if the Saudi/UAE bloc is doing everything in its power to eliminate all competition"
Why the tone of surprise?
throwing stones while in a glass house or somethin...News headline in 2004 dejavue all overagain..only this time russia says go for it::
"When Fadel Gheit first warned of his "nightmare scenario" that Saudi Arabia's main oil export terminal at Ras Tanura could be wiped out by terrorists, he was dismissed as an alarmist.
It was the week after the September 11 attacks in New York, where he is based. But the oil analyst began to think there was another target that would have an even more devastating impact if hit.
As fears of upheaval in Saudi helped set world crude oil prices to 21-year highs of $42.45 per barrel ahead of an Opec ministerial meeting today, there were fewer willing to scoff at Mr Gheit.
"I cannot think of any more logical target for terrorists. It [Ras Tanura] is the nerve centre for the Saudi oil trade but also for global exports. If you can blow up the Pentagon in broad daylight, then it cannot be impossible to fly a plane into Ras Tanura - and then you are talking $100 [per barrel] oil," he says"
notice price of oil in 2004 $42.25/b...
so you're saying ISIS has precision guided missiles or aircraft?
Yes, but the people who blew up the Pentagon (Rumsfeldt, Zakheim) also worked there. That kinda helps.
This is both a starting headline and a meaningless story.
Achmed, I am scared we should not bomb.
Ha. The Bath House is gay, he will not respond!
May a camel piss upon him, then!
Nah, Brussels is probably behind this one, just sending a message to Tsipras that he would do well to lose the coming elections or Greece is on its own against, well, the rest of the world.
They declared war on the US when they worked with Cheney and Rumsfeld to take down the World Trade Centers.
Either the US stops them or the World is going to stop the US.
"in a major escalation between the supporters and opponents of political Islam."
So, on one side we have the US and on the other we have Egypt and the UAE.
Recent history suggests that Greece will just roll over and take it up the ass, just as they do with the bankers.
And make a contrite call to Lloyds.
http://www.lloyds.com/lloyds
In Italy they call it 'Al Greco' (taking it), and 'Al Arabia' (giving it).
Collapsing superpowers have a wonderful way of leaving a power vacuum that quickly gets jammed up with dead bodies. Nice to know things haven't changed much in the last 2000 years.
and the BANKRUPT Greeks will do ..... WHAT ??? give them the stink eye ... LOL
Not news, don't care about oil wars !
"don't care about oil wars"
Yes, you do.
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How many accounts have you created in order to upvote your fucking blog spam? So... are you a witting, or unwitting disinfo agent?
UAE little brother to the House of Sodomy and financiers of terrorism. You'll BURN brightly soon you filthy rotten scum.
Retarded story. Neither the UAE nor the Saudi Arabian air forces have the long range warplanes capable of carrying out an attack off the Libyan coast. So the suspects must be much nearer: Egypt, Israel, Libya itself or a country with long range fighter/bombers.
According to the msm, the Libyan airforce is claiming that it carried out the attack because the tanker "aroused suspicion".
"The military spokesman, Colonel Ahmed Mesmari, said the tanker had been targeted because it had failed to submit to an inspection before entering the port."
There is this financial site that has very similar views to ZH.
Any links or just coincidence ? They may be running their editorials from same sources.
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Calm down, just a measure by friendly forces to reduce overproduction in the wrong place.
Why is this even newsworthy when Saudi Arabia declared unofficial war on Russia in 2013 when Putin met with who we think was Bandar "Bush" bin Sultan only to have several dozen killed inside it's Country at the end of that year when Russia refused it's deal over taking out Assad in Syria!
Russia should have used the weapons Greece doesn't have and wiped Saudi Arabia's "tents' off it's sand and made Riyadh a glass skating rink for it's children!
Saudi seems to be putting Putin in a hurt locker for the moment with oil at $50. Your move Putin.
Besides, Putin does not want a shooting war with Saudi. he has a better chance at taking over Iowa than going into Saudi Arabia uninvited.
This has been a problem since man first discovered boats. You need to protect your boat with a ship full of guns and marines. Sadly, Greek navy is not in a position to protect their tankers. Strange, Greece used to have a navy worth something.
Everyone is overlooking the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
The U.S. is a Democratic Republic.
I thought we were still blaming Putin for everything. Sorry, I lost the memo.
This just complicates matters and doesn't answer the question WHY?
http://dw.de/p/1EF5g
ISIS trying to drive up oil prices? After all, their pocketbook must be hurting, and there's no telling how long the CIA pay will hold...
Libyan Air Force does a 'Stop or I'll shoot'.
I guess turning off your lights and trying to ditch the cops is a bad idea when the get-a-way vehicle is oil tanker.
Those wacky ragheads...
"Egypt and the Emirates, both close allies and military partners, acted without informing Washington or seeking its consent, leaving the Obama administration on the sidelines."
WTF? Other countries have to get our permission to bomb the shit out of each other??
Who the fuck do we think we are?
Lol.
Uninformed.
That's who we are.
Hey they need "our" permission to become a nation state too ie; Palestine no one escapes the jews permissions you here no one !
jew paranoia
OPS. Some one just bombs some Voters. hehehehe, vote right MF.
At least we know one Greek who will be getting more than ten cents on the Euro for his assets.
Istanbul was Constantinople now its Istanbul not Constantinople … Maybe its just time for Southern Europe to go back to the Moors. Just for the next 500 years or so – then its back to the West – after the Moors have destroyed their own economy and currency.
Interests always form national governments and national identities.
But national governments and national identies don't always reflect a single set of Interests.
I am saying that it is proper to see a nation as a collection of interests, but that it is a mistake to identify a collection of interests as a nation. The interests go on even when they may no longer control the government, or even if they never controlled a government.
What is important is to understand that a government or a nation is NEVER a collective including YOU...unless you are an oligarch, and then only temporarily. A government is not your creed, not your class, not your tribe.
This is the number one misunderstanding people have about nations.
They believe, because they are taught, that THIS nation and government is "US" and THAT one is "THEM". The factual, observable, truth is that except for a fraction of 1% of the population, both nation and government are THEM.
Bad things happen when social mood sours. That Saudi Arabia could be playing both ends against the middle is not such a stretch...
http://www.globaldeflationnews.com/has-the-u-s-secret-deal-with-saudi-ar...
The Russian did it!
The circuit of the illegal oil from North Iraq
the US was furious as the "mysterious" ......
as if the cia did not know......every movement of every jet fighter Made In USA is monitored by CIA.....
Technically illiterate person wrote the article.
Time to go long MBDA (manufacturer of the Exocet)
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citizens of the world, you need to take notice, and ask questions.
do you know how many govt.'s of the world had to know about this, and give approval, or turn a blind eye, and show plausible deniability, to let this happen.
lets just start, this is one the most monitored air-spaces in the world by, uae, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Egypt, us, and nato, (eu countries), so who gains from this.
it's not a follow the money case, in nwo agendas, and geo-political warfare, the prize is, power, through control of countries, and their citizens, is of upmost importance, we've witnessed the ability, and seemingly authority to print trillions in currency, and manipulate all markets, so money is down the list of reasons, it's just another tool, as a means to the nwo ends.
ok, my guess, nato, (eu.'s enforcement arm right now is giving Greece an offer they can't refuse), stay in our gang, and this won't happen again.
for all of the afore mentioned countries, it's a nwo agenda win.
Donkey Kong
Saudi has always been low key and behind the curtain in their actions. Recently they have done increasinly open and extreme things with the price of oil, expressions of anger, among others. Something stressful is happening in the Saudi cartel family.