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Obamacare Architects At Harvard Furious After Learning They Are Not Exempt From Obamacare
The brain incubator at Harvard, the place which according to legend, and certainly the US News and World Report's annual paid college infomercial, is the repository for some of the smartest people in the world, is furious.
The reason - Harvard's illustrious faculty has learned that they too will be subject to their own policy recommendations as relates to Obamacare, which they themselves helped conceive. As the left-leaning NYT reported earlier today, "for years, Harvard’s experts on health economics and policy have advised presidents and Congress on how to provide health benefits to the nation at a reasonable cost. But those remedies will now be applied to the Harvard faculty, and the professors are in an uproar."
Because Harvard's brilliant ivory tower economists and public policy wonks know precisely how to fix the world... as long as said fix never applies to them.
And sure enough, the faculty did everything in its power to make sure it never had to suffer the consequences of its own brilliance...
"Members of the Faculty of Arts and Sciences, the heart of the 378-year-old university, voted overwhelmingly in November to oppose changes that would require them and thousands of other Harvard employees to pay more for health care. The university says the increases are in part a result of the Obama administration’s Affordable Care Act, which many Harvard professors championed."
... But it was too late:
The faculty vote came too late to stop the cost increases from taking effect this month, and the anger on campus remains focused on questions that are agitating many workplaces: How should the burden of health costs be shared by employers and employees? If employees have to bear more of the cost, will they skimp on medically necessary care, curtail the use of less valuable services, or both?
And it just gets better:
“Harvard is a microcosm of what’s happening in health care in the country,” said David M. Cutler, a health economist at the university who was an adviser to President Obama’s 2008 campaign. But only up to a point: Professors at Harvard have until now generally avoided the higher expenses that other employers have been passing on to employees. That makes the outrage among the faculty remarkable, Mr. Cutler said, because “Harvard was and remains a very generous employer.”
Ah, hypocrisy: exactly the same whether it is at the lowliest of community colleges or the leading bastion of liberal thought.
In Harvard’s health care enrollment guide for 2015, the university said it “must respond to the national trend of rising health care costs, including some driven by health care reform,” otherwise known as the Affordable Care Act. The guide said that Harvard faced “added costs” because of provisions in the health care law that extend coverage for children up to age 26, offer free preventive services like mammograms and colonoscopies and, starting in 2018, add a tax on high-cost insurance, known as the Cadillac tax.
The faculty is enraged, ENRAGED that what it hoped would only apply to the plebian peasantry is just as applicable to the self-appointed smartest people in the world. Here's Dick:
Richard F. Thomas, a Harvard professor of classics and one of the world’s leading authorities on Virgil, called the changes “deplorable, deeply regressive, a sign of the corporatization of the university.”
And here's Mary:
Mary D. Lewis, a professor who specializes in the history of modern France and has led opposition to the benefit changes, said they were tantamount to a pay cut. “Moreover,” she said, “this pay cut will be timed to come at precisely the moment when you are sick, stressed or facing the challenges of being a new parent.”
Why the anger? Because Harvard thought that it would be, drumroll, exempt from the Affordable Care Act which it was instrumental in conceiving :
The university is adopting standard features of most employer-sponsored health plans: Employees will now pay deductibles and a share of the costs, known as coinsurance, for hospitalization, surgery and certain advanced diagnostic tests. The plan has an annual deductible of $250 per individual and $750 for a family. For a doctor’s office visit, the charge is $20. For most other services, patients will pay 10 percent of the cost until they reach the out-of-pocket limit of $1,500 for an individual and $4,500 for a family.
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Previously, Harvard employees paid a portion of insurance premiums and had low out-of-pocket costs when they received care.
Kinda like how America worked before the tax that is Obamacare was forcefully shoved down everyone's throat thanks to Harvard brilliant geniuses no less who decided it was time to treat the free market like their own socialist lab experiment. But hey, at least it helped "boost" Q1 Q3 GDP by 1%.
It has gotten so bad that Harvard, realizing it is not exempt for socialist utopia, is suffering from "distress" and "anxiety."
The president of Harvard, Drew Gilpin Faust, acknowledged in a letter to the faculty that the changes in health benefits — though based on recommendations from some of the university’s own health policy experts — were “causing distress” and had “generated anxiety” on campus. But she said the changes were necessary because Harvard’s health benefit costs were growing faster than operating revenues or staff salaries and were threatening the budget for other priorities like teaching, research and student aid.
In response, Harvard professors, including mathematicians and microeconomists, have dissected the university’s data and question whether its health costs have been growing as fast as the university says. Some created spreadsheets and contended that the university’s arguments about the growth of employee health costs were misleading. In recent years, national health spending has been growing at an exceptionally slow rate.
We also learn that the only reason why it was called "Affordable Care" is because, apparently, it was unaffordable.
some ideas that looked good to academia in theory are now causing consternation. In 2009, while Congress was considering the health care legislation, Dr. Alan M. Garber — then a Stanford professor and now the provost of Harvard — led a group of economists who sent an open letter to Mr. Obama endorsing cost-control features of the bill. They praised the Cadillac tax as a way to rein in health costs and premiums.
Dr. Garber, a physician and health economist, has been at the center of the current Harvard debate. He approved the changes in benefits, which were recommended by a committee that included university administrators and experts on health policy.
In an interview, Dr. Garber acknowledged that Harvard employees would face greater cost-sharing, but he defended the changes. “Cost-sharing, if done appropriately, can slow the growth of health spending,” he said. “We need to be prepared for the very real possibility that health expenditure growth will take off again.”
But Jerry R. Green, a professor of economics and a former provost who has been on the Harvard faculty for more than four decades, said the new out-of-pocket costs could lead people to defer medical care or diagnostic tests, causing more serious illnesses and costly complications in the future.
“It’s equivalent to taxing the sick,” Professor Green said. “I don’t think there’s any government in the world that would tax the sick.”
But in her view, there are drawbacks to the Harvard plan and others like it that require consumers to pay a share of health care costs at the time of service. “Consumer cost-sharing is a blunt instrument,” Professor Rosenthal said. “It will save money, but we have strong evidence that when faced with high out-of-pocket costs, consumers make choices that do not appear to be in their best interests in terms of health.”
If you aren't crying with laughter yet, you will now once the sheer idiocy of central planning, even when conceived by the world's smartest people, is unveiled:
Harvard’s new plan is far more generous than plans sold on public insurance exchanges under the Affordable Care Act. Harvard says its plan pays 91 percent of the cost of care for a typical consumer, while the most popular plans on the exchanges, known as silver plans, pay 70 percent, on average.
In many states, consumers have complained about health plans that limit their choice of doctors and hospitals. Some Harvard employees have said they will gladly accept a narrower network of health care providers if it lowers their costs. But Harvard’s ability to create such networks is complicated by the fact that some of Boston’s best-known, most expensive hospitals are affiliated with Harvard Medical School. To create a network of high-value providers, Harvard would probably need to exclude some of its own teaching hospitals, or discourage their use.
“Harvard employees want access to everything,” said Dr. Barbara J. McNeil, the head of the health care policy department at Harvard Medical School and a member of the benefits committee. “They don’t want to be restricted in what institutions they can get care from.”
In other words, compared to the rest of the socialist experiment they helped conceive, Harvard has it much, much better. "Although out-of-pocket costs over all for a typical Harvard employee are to increase in 2015, administrators said premiums would decline slightly. They noted that the university, which has an endowment valued at more than $36 billion, had an unusual program to provide protection against high out-of-pocket costs for employees earning $95,000 a year or less. Still, professors said the protections did not offset the new financial burdens that would fall on junior faculty and lower-paid staff members."
But the punchline comes from none other than a sociologist:
“It seems that Harvard is trying to save money by shifting costs to sick people,” said Mary C. Waters, a professor of sociology. “I don’t understand why a university with Harvard’s incredible resources would do this. What is the crisis?”
Indeed: how dare a university with such "incredible resources" be forced to comply with the policy it itself helped create?
Of course, none of the above is the issue at hand: what is really pissing Harvard off, is that as its perennial next door competitor MIT, as expressed by one professor Jonathan Gruber, made it quite clear that only a nation as stupid as America would allow such as an opaque law as Obamacare to be passed. And, by implication, Harvard being subject to this law, makes its faculty about as stupid as the average American voter. And there is nothing more crushing, "distressing" and "anxiety-provoking" for a bunch of wealthy, ivory tower dwellers than seeing their own egos go down in flames.
Or, said otherwise: MIT 1 - Harvard 0.
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In other news, prison builders don't like to live in their prisons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI6tBwVjyOY
The Grubers done got grubered!!!! (does a happy jig across the floor)
I think the Cancan is in order. Just remember to wear underwear.
perhaps you think you're being treated unfairly?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbv5yEroZkY
Everybody have a good laugh now, get it out of your system. Realize this "outrage" (feigned or real) will be channeled into calls for what we all knew this was leading to anyway- single payer, government health care.
Only then will we finally have Utopia. I know it's been a long road and it hasn't worked so well in it's incremental stages, but when we go full-blown with government health care, it will FINALLY be the Utopia we were all promised. You're welcome, by the way.
Just because they were involved in its birth doesn't mean it's under their control any more.
BTW- Gruber worked (works) at MIT, not Harvard.
i dont see anything wrong with consumer cost sharing.. I see that is the only way to bring down medical costs. People have to ask how much a gazillion random tests costs and decide not to do a bunch of them or buy the most overpriced medicines as opposed to the equivalent generic alternative.
It doesn't work like that. It is a tax on the middle class. The middle class pays more for health insurance while the poor, illegals et al get it for free. Oh and you local county taxes go for the local hospital the poor and illegals use - so you are paying at least twice.
Probably closer to three times because you will pay more for any services. They over charge you (middle class) to pad more money for writing off the free medical for the poor and illegals.
There is no ***king savings. Most people saw their premiums double and triple with far far less benefits and higher deductibles.
Plus, you are paying for all your village, town, county and state employee's medical coverage - so, you get 4X screwed.
And to think - all the Union wanted Obama Care. How many millions of more jobs will be lost to it?
Pretty soon, only 'cans will be employable - Mexicans, Dominicans, Costa Ricans, etc. (Sorry, just a nickname we use in NY.)
The last jobs will be found in the Home Depot parking lot at the shape up in the morning.
$100 + lunch for a day's work will sound pretty good soon.
Som Nam Na motherfuckers....
They obviously don't have a very good history department. Any good historian will tell you that Obozocare and such will lead to very very VERY bad things down the road
Schadenfreude, the joy that gives as long as one lives.
It seems the morons fooled by complexity had tenure at Harvard.
America's academia is an open sewer.
If it was so good, why did they have to put a gun to our heads to make it work for them?
If education didn't suck so bad in this country, health care costs would not be so high.
So, what is an AmeriCAN to you? A can't?
Mandated Obamacare: $1300 a month and a $7500 deductible, plus $7500 to an HSA. Lets see...
$23,100 a year. Government-imposed healthcare
$40,000 a year. Government-imposed income tax
$15,000 a year. Govenment-imposed property tax
1.5% of savings. Government-imposed inflation
7.5% of purchases. Government-imposed sales tax
Think about the hours of worked to fund our Government overlords.
Its quite a compelling case to stop working and join the dole.
Of course Dr. Eekiel Emanuel has a health plan for those on the dole after a certain number of years.
Which is exactly what I did, retired and left the USA... Now, as an expat I get the IRS exclusion for the first $99,200 I make per year outside the USA and not subject to ACA... The kicker is that I have 100% health care coverage with zero deductible outside the USA for $1800 USD per YEAR, not per MONTH... Fuck the tribe...
The problem is that it doesn't work. It doesn't cut costs. It cuts services, self selectively AND it makes me pay for retards like you to stay alive and keep polluting my air.
You wanna save money? Fine, go save money. Leave me the hell out of it you facist little prick.
Right...because the consumer knows best which tests, which treatments and which meds are suitable for their particular ailment and luckily health care providers never prescribe any of the aforementioned tests, treatments or meds which are unnecessary. Hahaha.
Funny how the ZH crowd worships the free market like a golden calf, but when you confront them with some actual free market, such as patients paying for the health care services they receive, everyone goes apeshit and buries you in down votes.
Personally, what I most want is to pay for all my own health care expenses out of pocket, at the same rate the big insurance companies pay. And have no insurance at all.
Whats your plan when you're the victim of a hit & run "accident", or "accidental" shooting?
"Sorry, you haven't enough money to pay for us to keep you alive" tends to focus the mind a lot . . . . . . .
For all we know, LMS is exceedingly wealthy and can easily afford even drastic, long-term medical care. That being the case, why should he/she be forced to buy insurance?
It's called savings and family. HAHA! What are those in today's America? Mission Accomplished.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKhOJejYd0s
nufio
i think prostate exams are free for everyone men an woman and you.
VA-quality health care for everyone.
Irrefutable proof that there is a god
Academia has always had the luxury of ignoring reality as they live in an artificial environment. They produce nothing and are protected by tenure. But now they too must deal with the horrible reality that is Obamacare and I love it.
My hope is that the horrors their arrogance and elitism has brought to the American public, is brought to them 10 fold.
We Obamacared some folks.
Most people got fucked.
Just reward
HA, FOOKING HA! Sometimes karma dishes out a most delicious desert! Fookin intellectual tools!
"We redistributed the wealth of some folks"
FORWARD SOVIET!
Karma is a bitch.
Yes-the Schadefreude-IT.IS. GUT!!!!
It could not have happened to a nicer bunch of Grubers.
Another case of the word intellectual being over- and mis-applied. No dumb as a box of rocks at Hahvahd - they're the fucking quarry.
No dumb but evil. They knew exactly what was in it - they just figured they would be exempt.
My guess is Harvard will throw them an extra $300 to $600 a month in their pay check as an offset.
Fuck Harvard, Yale, Princeton, all the Ivory Towers, PhD's, seers and know it fucking alls everywhere who've never yet put in an honest day's labor, figuring the professorial departmental infighting was akin to survival in the real world.
Fuck each and every one of you bastards of false knowledge and sanctimonious egocentric sophistry, held secure by your tenure and false Gods.
May you all die in Hell, slowly, painfully, for the misdeeds you have so ignobly thrust upon the common man while sipping white wine at your democratic fund raisers.
Fuck each and every last one of you.
Ye shall reap that which ye have sown.
I look forward to your champions of ISIS directing your institutions and putting you to death for evoking thoughts other than Allahs as learned in the Quran.
Allah Ackbar
But FORTY MILLION AMERICANS clamoring for coverage now have health insurance who didn't before! Its like forty million youtz were just told to shut up, eat their peas and pay for granny!
(And a few executive bonuses)
Its the muracle of technocratic governance on display!...lol.
Fucking idiots.
You really don't believe that number do you? Obozo and company have lied on every other meaningful economic number. Why not this one?
No, I never believed the number, not then not now, the number came from the liars at Harvard and elsewhere. And the ObamaCare signups prove it was bogus...a lie.
It was always about getting the young, who can barely afford their own lives, to pay for what old people want. The progs even admitted it time after time as a funding mechanism.
The young (who supported it) were too stupid to understand what they were REALLY saying.
Now everyone see's the lie...and the self righteous snobbery of the elites & technocrats who thought King O'Barry would exclude them.
Small consolation, but still ;-)
Knuk, I signed in just to give you a standing ivy league Thurston Howell lll limp-wristed golf clap.
That was definitely from the heart, I felt it too.
After Knuckles, I find no further need to read thru the thread....
Amen.
But I wish he would tell us what he really feels...
I hate when people hold back...you just can't get a read on what their thinking is.
Hell Yeah!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAEA1KzDynI
Cheers...applause, and a "Yeah Baby!"
what's good for the goose...
What is good for the goose is not good for the Grubers...
Ha ha ha!
In an interview, Dr. Garber acknowledged that Harvard employees would face greater cost-sharing, but he defended the changes. “Cost-sharing, if done appropriately, can slow the growth of health spending,”
Why can´t Americans simply get into their heads what socialism means...? Cost sharimg means that the Harvard geniuses will be paying not only for their own healthcare but also for the folks in Detroit and such places. A noble thing indeed - but when the rubber hits the road the enthusiasm for practical socialism applied to everyone (which is the pure definition of socialism) doesn´t seem to be all that great. This is the practical definition of socialism. It´s not like you will be able to choose whom or what to support - that´s charity. Socialism takes everyone aboard and the perverse logic dictates that there will gradually be more and more people that can´t or won´t make ends meet and the Harvard Brahmins will face a growing bill. Every year. Freeloaders galore.
Under a socialist health car system the only thing that will curb growing health care costs are austerity measures and rationing , which in plain English means that you will still be paying more and more (if you are a Harvard Brahmin - but have less and less to claim. No laws on your side there - buds)
Libtard chumps.
What is it with you Americans? Why not take a look around the world and see how it panned out in countries like the UK and others...it´s exactly the described way.Before slovenly shuffling into socialism by electing Obama?
You will be paying for sex-change operation for recently arrived latinamerican traviesas over your ACA premium - and then find your own healthcare access restricted. Unless you buy an extra private post-tax insurance on top of your Obamacare. That´s the way in the UK and other countries that has choosen the ACA model. Roughy 25% of British peeps cough up extra dough for private insurance on top of their taxes.
Enough with the F@()U*$ing vegan bullcrap
Mary D. Lewis, a professor who specializes in the history of modern France and has led opposition to the benefit changes, said they were tantamount to a pay cut. “Moreover,” she said, “this pay cut will be timed to come at precisely the moment when you are sick, stressed or facing the challenges of being a new parent.”
Mary...you ignorant slut.
Too fucking bad too..because what the world needs now...more than anything...is people who specialize in the history of modern France.
kneeling at the edge of the ditch that was quickly dug by the men in uniforms Mary thought to herself how this must be some sort of mistake, somehow Dear Leader must not know how hard she and her fellow travelers labored in the early day in implementing Dear Leaders reforms, then she thought.... BANG!!!
The Fucking End
Many years after Mary's death at the hands of the Thought Police, her Phd thesis was removed from seal and found to be composed of Daily Diaries dating from 1900 to the present, each day marked with a single inscription; "Surrendered".
Thus encapsulates Modern French History.
To this day, Mary is remembered for dying with her baguettes on and Immortalized in the French children's play taught to each small child in der kintergartens "Mary and Her Happy Singing Escargot".
Mary's Happy Singing Escargot was in no mood to embrace the cold, clammy nap of death, however. Non, surrender was not in its' vocabulary. Making a beeline for the docks, MHSE boarded a freighter bound for Mauritius. Along the way, MHSE regaled the crew with bawdy tales of revolution and wine, and wine and butter. Upon arrival in Mauritius, MHSE sought out and eventually found and ingratiated itself with members of the underground. After a few counter insurgency attacks, MHSE succumbed to the pressure and began smoking the sugar cane....
Que Sera, Sera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azxoVRTwlNg
Mary Mary Quite Contrary!
Don't forget authorities on Virgil. Where would we be without them?
Laugh if you will, but what the Hell could our great nation do, if the Ivy League faculties all went out on strike?
In just few short years, the flame of civilization, once so bright in America, would gutter and die.
Just kidding!
Ha.
Had me going there for a bit.
Ha, the guy is only "ONE of the world’s leading authorities on Virgil". You mean the earth has to support more than one such authority?
Mary, Mary, Why you buggin?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgmyVLheqkQ
Just another Professor who believes that socialism is good and will not apply to her caste or herself. WRONG! Socialistic systems are by definition universal in the society where they are applied. Seems like she has a bit of practical -life - studies 101 to come to grips with. Or just plain stupid and ignorant , i.e. Obama-supporter.
Yeeeeeehaaaaaa. Now they know what it means to have Yellen go up their FAFSA.
We meant everybody else, not us. They helped create the monster and they should help feed it......
We were MITed by some folks. Ps centre 6 haavad 0
Fuck you ....you ivy leauge fucks... join the serfs and take a number!
Except - that they are still well clear of you and me...
sweet justice...?
What sweet irony. Suck it, you ivory-towered rodeo clowns.
Clearly the government has to step in now and raise these tenured professors and faculty members minimum wages, to right this great injustice!!!
To the ramparts kiddies!
The BMW-Volvo-Mercedes S-Class is depending on you & your mopeds!!! ;-)
so we need just demand that rich people must pay taxes too. It's facking simple
You forgot the sarc tag.
"It's like a pay cut."
No shit lady, and most of us have been getting them every year.
One of the funniest things about "progressive" faculties is that they have no problem shitting on the labor class of universities, TAs / grad students, who teach, do the grunt work, but are paid shit, have no rights, and get no benefits like health care.
I was a TA for an engineering class. I devised my own casting coach for the advancement of some of the underachievers.
Gives new meaning to affirmative action.
That is what I named the matress on the office floor.
I avoided the continuous temptation as a chemistry TA. Lots of second and third generation Betty 's that would do anything it get into med school. Knew lot's of nerds who hit it all the time, so I get it and would never judge.
They are called the HARD sciences for a reason,
I've got the IQ, but not your wit. Awesome post!!!!!!!!!!!! Made me laugh out loud.
Back in my day, they were called the PHYSICAL sciences.
Back in your day I imagine the average engineering class was almost 100 percent male. Thus, the term physical rather than hard. Thank God, I went to school when it became hard,
I assume coach = couch.
This: http://www.centennialbulb.org/cam.htm
Keep things in perspective.
Guess they don't like to eat the turd sandwich they created for others to consume.
Enjoy!
>>>Enjoy!
And may it stick to the roof of their mouth, metaphorically speaking.
The stupid ones revealed...
Some folks thought the new rules were just for the "regular folks".
'Regular' is a lot better than being full of sh*t.
cant blame them ... its logical. I like the way he puts the word growth" --- it gives a positive sound and you dont really get it what the issue is all about .... cost increase ... fuckers
“We need to be prepared for the very real possibility that health expenditure growth will take off again.”
This is Outragoeus! I am a Harvard Porfessor!
Welcome to the club. Now you can pay out the wazoo like us!
for those who question the rising costs faced by the university, what they should be asking is why such even numbered deductibles, co-payments and out of pocket maximums are selected. If a plan was designed to achieve an optimum result then 250/20/750 should be something like 220/17/723? This indicates that the deductibles, co-payments and out-of-pocket maximums are merely arbitrarily chosen.
"If a plan was designed to achieve an optimum result then 250/20/750 should be something like 220/17/723"
Those were the numbers. They rounded up, to make calculations easier for the employees.
/sarc
... fucking turds ...
Barack Obama is a graduate of Harvard Law
Jonathon Gruber earned his PhD from Harvard School of Economics
FUCK HARVARD & IT'S PAMPERED FOOTSOLDIERS OF OLIGARCHY
"Jon, hey, this is Bill Smith."
"Who?"
"We were at Harvard together. Buttfuck 101, Propaganda 101 and 102."
"Yeah! How ya doing?"
" Well, I'm a Proff back here at Harvard now."
"Oh, yeah, I saw something about that in the Aluminumai Magazine.
"So, Big Jon, I wondered if I could, you know, opt out of this health care thingy."
"Sorry, Bill, you're not in the Party yet."
"How do I join?"
Obama & Gruber transcripts should be interesting assuming they exist.
Finally Harvard did something worthwhile...some folks got self-coitused.
We Grubed some folks.
We Lubed some folks.
Why tax the sick when you can tax the healthy and fearmonger them into paying for health put options?
"tax the sick" = having people pay for the (Healthcare) services they use. Like you pay for healthcare services when you're sick. Hopefully you saved up for it while you were healthy. Harvard professors call this "taxing" you.
Harvard Professors maybe the most privilaged, but definitely only as bright as the clearest 40 Watt light Bulb
"a sign of the corporatization of the university.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yJceHG-Qco
Let's all roll out the welcome mats...shall we?
dont harvard professors get plastic surgery and sex change 100% covered
Busily sharpening knives while always assuming they are for purposes other than the removal of their own heads.
"You know, Barry, I was rejected from Harvard. And, well, we have reached that stage of the Revolution."
"Uhh, OK, Bill, do your thing."
The president of Harvard, Drew Gilpin Faust...
Of course this happens to a guy with the last name "FAUST" It really is poetic justice.
Called "shitting in your own nest".
Maybe they will burn Harvard to the ground.
Oh the horror.....a little dose of the fucked up world we deal with snuck past the security guards at Harvard!
That is some funny shit right there.
But, but, I'm a Professor! This is Outrageous!
Bang!
This is fucking laughable. W T F?? a $ 200.00 a year increase against their $ 300K salary and pension. Fuckwads. I'm not feeling sorry for these assholes. I'm waiting for a news story where a bunch of them caught a 9mm between the eyes from a marauding herd of unemployed graduates with $ 50K in student loans to pay for their slimey existence.
$50K? you mean one year only right?
A $50,000 student loan might assume the student flunked out or dropped out after freshman year.
Posted tuition, room and board for this year is over $58,500.
But that story is so fucking great! Let them eat cake - - - shit cake, and co-pay for it!
I hope they all delay getting their fucking bleeding hemorrhoids taken care of for fear of the co-pay!
Then they can realize what it feels like to deal with a true pain in the ass.
Shang-a-lang, shang-a-lang, shang-a-lang
Yea we sang shang-a-lang and we ran with the gang
I could see these Havard boys sharping knives to please their ISIS kidnappers then being surprised when a bag is put over their heads.
Harvard has become the center for lower learning.
"But, but I am a Professor! This is Outrageous!
(Achmed, please help me with this one. He's squirming!)
I didn't know until just now, that I could get an erection from irony.
Harvard has a reputation for educating liars and scum. Both Bernanke and Lloyd Blankfein were educated there.
George W Bush - Harvard Business School. Al Gore - Harvard. Hank Paulson - Harvard. What a bunch of crooks? Do they have a PHD program in psychopathy?
But, but, I am a Professor! This is Outrageous! Let me see Dean Smith!
(sorry, he passed away and our b-ball team sucks).
Hilarious. Bring them down!
But the punchline comes from none other than a sociologist:
HMMM.
It seems that Mary C. Waters, Harvard Sociologist, is protesting too much. Is she SICK, or something? What's the CRISIS, Mary?
SERIOUSLY, Mary.
All you have to do is tell your 'healthcare provider', which can be accessed anytime, 24/7, on the Obamacare website. While you're at it, tell the anonymous person on the other end of the weblink/phone/whatever exactly what 'sociology' is, and how important it is to people who can't fucking pay the gas or power bill because they are trying to 'comply' with the new 'healthcare mandates' while they fucking force their families to bundle up and they turn the thermostats down to 'save energy'.
FUCK YOU TO HELL, MARY C. WATERS.
Gee, next time, I'll tell you how I REALLY FEEL.
Hey, Mary, take a sociology field trip to the hood.
I hope you are gang-raped by 10 strung-out crack headed chimps
Then left for dead behind a dumpster.
FIFY.
Mary studies modern France so I doubt the hood would be on her itinary. Better for her to go to that lovely French city of Marseilles and get done by North African Allan Snackbar youths that pollute that dump.
Harvard faculty will all band together and purchase private health insurance with a private service provider. Feigned concern over
public health plans [O'Bummer care] is just smoke n' mirrors for public relations sake. Guaranteed they all opt out of O'Bummer care for their own private deal, mark my words.
What a bunch of cry baby Morons...
/the Harvard Facilty, not you, the zh reader...
Elite Communists eat your own shit.
"Elite Communists eat your own shit. "
They sure a s hell aren't communists when it comes to 'paying their fair share'.
These are the ideological footsoldiers of Oligarchy.
Just wait until they get their colonoscopy with a fire hose and have to pay $8K for it due to that polyp that was found 10 yrs ago.
We only draft the laws/rules not follow 'em . . .
Just more propaganda nonsense from the Amongst You Times.
"See we're subject to it too." LOL
They'll just get a raise to cover it.
The connected and the Amongst will not be effected, they just want the sheeple to think that they are.
The banksters need to repay us.
Fucking A!
We ass-raped some folks
"Call Obama and tell him we're sending our black professor down for another 'beer summit'. Yes, the one arrested for yelling at the white cop. We really need the president's help this time. Wait, what did he say? We've already been paid for our opinion and we didn't donate enough to purchase an exemption? Well, we'll see who he calls next time he needs us to BS his way through another bill. MIT - what? I'm going to drown myself in the Charles River - right after crew practice."
Do you want to know the next time there will be a protest about the janitors being underpaid there? That's right - never. In the future, anyone suggesting they are underpaid will hear, 'bullshit - at least their getting medical.'
Oh, and think of all the truly poor-of-the-poor, the Doctoral Student / Teacher's Assistant. When they hit 26, get thrown off their parent's medical, then lose their scholarship because the college hadn't figured they'd have to give them a piece of paper (Doctorate) and medical coverage.
This is a not-for-profit with >$20 billion endowment. Now, how does one expect the rest of the world to get by?
This is why I will never, ever have an employee - ever again. The first thing anyone working with me has to do is sign a 'Independent Contractor's Agreement' and receive their 1099's at the end of the year. Fuck that if I'm going to pay an extra 40% above-and-beyond salary to cover people, pay unemployment, etc. I honestly don't know who could afford to hire laborers and pay enough to exceed what they can milk out of the welfare system.
And, that just about calls the end of Democracy in America. Will the last one out the door turn out the lights and lock up?
I'll be in the Dominican Republic. Last one out, bring the American Flag with you. At least there, we get shitty medical care, but it costs less than the co-pay in the U.S. And, if you get sick, and have to pay 100% for, say, antibiotics, they cost about 1/4 the price of a US copay. Generally, you can get antibiotics for $.25 per pill.
Sure they're smart.
With zero wisdom.
Completely trapped within their paradigm.
About Obamacare...it seems our digital illits in Congress are stuck, both parties as neither one can face the reality the ACA is run by the machines now and these folks at Harvard should know that..lol..
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/11/the-affordable-care-act-is-run-by.html
Wait until the rest of the deal rolls out too..including what we deal with too...probably neither at Harvard or MIT realize that insurers are recording their voices at the call centers, I did a whole write up on this technology...they make a file and score you on your current state of mind while on the phone...
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/05/this-call-may-be-recorded-for-quality.html
Hmmmm, now let's see the Harvard Teaching Hospitals follow the example of this hospital in North Carolina..they are pulling all patient data broker files from Axciom as well as all your credit card transactions and want doctors to review all of this with you, looking for those deep dark secrets of what you buy at the drug store and if you let your gym subscription lapse...
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/06/oh-crap-now-hospitals-are-now-buying.html
This is out of hand...and don't forget those "Stock Buy Backs" that your premiums help fund too...those health insurer CEOs are some of the highest paid and the buy backs assure them of their high compensation...oh was this part of Obamacare too? Maybe Obamacare really needs the money from Harvard to finance all the buy backs, you think?
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2014/06/oh-crap-now-hospitals-are-now-buying.html
skynet just became self aware
Need more flame!
Hubris obscures intelligence and compasion.
Where's Pol Pot when you need him?
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good for you! Now shut up and eat your cake bitches!
Here's an idea.
Harvard has it's own medical school. Why don't the professors just tell Obama that they don't need Obamacare, and just drop by the med school whenever they have a tummy ache or need gender reassignment surgery?
Do apprentice plumbers have to study the history of modern France before they can be certified?...
The fastest way to make money is to open a funeral parlor that's adjacent to a teaching hospital...
Why can't these brainiacs come up with ways to make more money? Fuck them with the rest of us.
Isn't it wonderful to see them have to bite their own bullet
The next bullet they'll be biting is the one their leaders have waiting for them during the cleansing. The one where they willingly supported the open attempt at taking away everyone guns. They'll soon be facing the consequences of their actions with the ultimate sacrifice for their cause
Generation after generation the mindless effing morons that fall for this shit never learn
Don't think I'm picking on America. It is a global problem that needs a global solution. Just not the one we're headed towards now