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France's Le Pen Ready To "Reject Islam" As Magazine Editor "Prefered To Die Than Be Silenced"

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The Queen has sent "sincere condolences" to French President Hollande over the Paris attack (as have Obama, Merkel, and Cameron) as he puts Paris on high terrorist alert as the manhunt for the reported 3 killers continues. Front National's Marine Le Pen has been more vociferous in her remarks, wanting to "defend against war waged on France," and calling for "rejection of fundamental islam." The remarks and actions of the day are even more chilling in light of Chrlie Hebdo's editor's comments in 2012 that "our job is not to defend freedom of speech but without it we're dead. We can't live in a country without freedom of speech. I prefer to die than to live like a rat."

  • *HOLLANDE TO HOLD ANOTHER CRISIS MEETING ON SHOOTINGS TOMORROW

Condolences come in from around the world...

  • *QUEEN ELIZABETH SENDS HOLLANDE `SINCERE CONDOLENCES'
  • *MERKEL SAYS WILL DO EVERYTHING TO HELP FRENCH AFTER ATTACK
  • *CAMERON SAYS PARIS ATTACK IS `APPALLING TERRORIST OUTRAGE'
  • *OBAMA CALLS ATTACKS IN PARIS COWARDLY, EVIL

And Front National's Marine Le Pen comes out swinging...

  • *LE PEN SAYS FRANCE HADN'T SEEN SUCH BARBARIC ACT IN DECADES
  • *LE PEN SAYS WANTS TO DEFEND FRANCE AGAINST WAR WAGED ON COUNTRY
  • *LE PEN: IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY TO SAY FEAR MUST BE OVERCOME
  • *LE PEN:ATTACK MUST FREE OUR SPEECH AGAINST ISLAM FUNDAMENTALISM
  • *LE PEN: IT'S A TERORRIST ATTACK IN NAME OF RADICAL ISLAM
  • *LE PEN SAYS TIME OF DENIAL, HYPOCRISY NO LONGER POSSIBLE
  • *LE PEN: REJECTION OF FUNDAMENTAL ISLAM MUST BE PROCLAIMED

But its the ominous words of Charlie Hebdo's editor from 2012 that are so chilling... (as ABC reports)


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After controversy erupted in 2012 over the cartoons portraying Muslim prophet Mohammed in the French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo, ABC News' Jeffrey Kofman interviewed the periodical's editor and cartoonist, Stephane Charbonnier.

 

And Charbonnier remained defiant in the face of the threats against his publication.

 

"Our job is not to defend freedom of speech but without it we're dead. We can't live in a country without freedom of speech. I prefer to die than to live like a rat," Charbonnier told ABC News.

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Perhaps this sums it up as well as anything else...

 

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Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:36 | 5633209 RacerX
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I keep waiting for the pushback. Hopefully this will start a real movement.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:40 | 5633226 stinkhammer
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dirty muzzies    cult of death      cannot coexist

Barry Hussein, where are you on this one?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:45 | 5633254 casey13
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So they caught the perps and after interrogation and extensive investigation have determined their motives and all their political affiliations?

or

Somebody said they did it so it must be true.

 

I think I will reserve judgement till later.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:46 | 5633266 cossack55
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I would urge you not to apply as a MSM hairpiece.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:48 | 5633282 Usurious
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divide and conquer on a GLOBAL scale.......run by the BANKSTERS

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:52 | 5633295 ACP
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Is this the "JV" team Obunghole was talking about?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:58 | 5633322 knukles
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Yes, the very same that he refuses to term terrorists or fucked up religious zeal.
Nope, Opajajms appears one of Allah's faithful true believers

That Goddamned YouTube

Allah Ackbar

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:05 | 5633367 MillionDollarBonus_
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I fear that islamaphobia is only going to get worse following this event. You have to remember that this is a tiny minority of muslims and does not in any way represent the muslim people or islam as a whole. We need to calm down and make sure that we don't make rash assumptions about an entire race or religion.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:08 | 5633389 ThroxxOfVron
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"You have to remember that this is a tiny minority of muslims and does not in any way represent the muslim people or islam as a whole. We need to calm down and make sure that we don't make rash assumptions about an entire race or religion. "

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War

"In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). When they enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.  "

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:26 | 5633473 ACP
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Yes, the facts haven't changed, only propaganda.

Maybe there really is a God and on the 8th day he said, "Just for shits and giggles, let's put a bunch oil over here where these nutfucks live and see what happens."

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:30 | 5633489 manofthenorth
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"I prefer to die than live like a rat"

wish granted

RIP

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:33 | 5633500 ThroxxOfVron
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This whole 'War On Terror' bullshit is denial of what is really underway: Barbary Wars 2.0.

The last time the US fought Barbary Wars it sent the Navy in and bombed the shit out of the Nations and Fiefdoms that were engaged in the activity against the US.  ...THEN the US demanded -and recieved- reparations from the rich Muslim leaders of those Nations and Fiefdoms.

NOT rebuilt them with US taxpayer monies: demanded and received reparations to cease the bombardments.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:15 | 5633714 tarsubil
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Oil sales settled in dollars are the reparations.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:14 | 5634026 scrappy
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Remember that face in the video.

If he rises and walks the earth again...

Jesus, maybe in Pakistan or Yemen...then we will know...

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 17:10 | 5634383 JuliaS
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Sure! Cartoons are the cause and the French support of the Middle Eastern occupation has nothing to do with it. Rafale jet bombing runs maybe? I guess not.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/french-military-releases-iraq-air-185316544....

Must've been one hell of a Muslim cartoon that sent the French armies all the way to the Middle East!

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:31 | 5633497 Herd Redirectio...
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You'd probably have to go back to 1785 to find the last time Iran(Persia), or Turkey invaded anyone.

One reason why, they are only militant when allied with Russia.  Geopolitics, mothereffers.  Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Xinjiang.  Its a massive geographical area. Kyrgyzstan are the lucky ones.  You can't invade a country to steal their hydropower.

Not a lot of people live in that barren waste, but that is a crucial area that will be contested between 'the West/bankers', Russia and China.

Primarily for pipelines, secondary is whatever (resources) they happen to find there

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 20:29 | 5635153 Thanatos
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I'd check up on your history lesson.

The Turks have invaded Sovereign Nations as late as the 1970's.

Then there was that Ottoman Empire episode that contained a few invasions as I recall. Wasn't that in 20th Century?

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:19 | 5633395 Headbanger
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NOT TRUE!

The "innocent" muslims hide and protect their terrorists thugs.

Look out now that Merkel has given the nod to the right wing Germans protesting against the "Islamisation of the West"

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:48 | 5633567 StupidEarthlings
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'The "innocent" muslims hide and protect their terrorists thugs.'

 

Yea, a feller I work with was just asking- 'where are all the "good muslims" that are against this type of thing, and say that this is just a small minoirity of extremists?'

 

Well, where indeed...?...

 

Maybe I'm missin it (and I've never read that book myself), but it kinda does seem like death to infadels what that 'religion' teaches them.

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:18 | 5633721 tarsubil
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Where are all the innocent Americans protesting the wars? I think the minority is equal on all "sides".

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 21:02 | 5652229 cents gradeschool
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What are his favorite homemade goodies? Hmmm?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:00 | 5633589 Tall Tom
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Maybe the innocent Muslims are also being terrorized by the same thugs acting "in the name of Allah"...when, really, they are just murderous thugs?

 

Has that thought ever crossed your mind?

 

It just reminds me of the Murderers and Torturers posing as God loving Roman Catholics back in the days of the Inquisition.

 

I can imagine you, or someone like you, in that age, saying ALL OF THOSE ROMAN CATHOLICS JUST LOVE TO TORTURE AND KILL...when most were terrified by their church leaders?

 

That is your LIMITED MINDSET.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:12 | 5633695 TheReplacement
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Apples and oranges.  During the inquisition the church held state power.  These guys in Paris are, reportedly, anti-French state Muslim radicals.  As such, the innocent Muslims would have state backing and yet they do nothing.  Back in the day, the anti-inquisition radicals certainly became victims of the state if they stood up to it.

Sorry to blow your whole concept to hell.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:10 | 5633405 t0mmyBerg
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bullshit.  more than half of muslims would say if asked that these people insulted the prophet and deserved to die.  islam is inconsistent with the idea of freedom of expression as it exists in the west, especially the us

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:14 | 5633430 indygo55
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Islam is and always has been belief at the tip of a sword.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:33 | 5633495 A Fist Full of Fiat
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For those that don't get it, let me fix your post '....</sarc>'. Love your uncanny ability to spark debate by dropping the verbal grenade in the room and then diving for cover.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:07 | 5633670 Theosebes Goodfellow
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~"I fear that islamaphobia is only going to get worse..."~

Oh MDB, your wit murders me. You really slay me. Is "fear that Islamophobia" "Islamophobiaphobia"? Stop it, you're killing me! And when you say,

~"...we don't make rash assumptions about an entire race or religion."~, what are you "itching" to say? You're just way too funny. /sarc

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:28 | 5633778 Racking Horse
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The evil practices of Islam all stem from the same pagan, satanic root. Islam IS pagan, no matter how fiercely they deny it. It IS satanic, no matter how fiercely they deny it.
The god of Islam is NOT the God of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob, of Moses & the Prophets.
Therefore, al-Lah C A N N O T be the God Who is the Holy Trinity.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:33 | 5634167 JRev
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You're all fucking Pagans. The history of your pantheonic texts are now for all Humanity to read, not just the religious oligarchical class. Or do you still cling to the Council of Nicaea as the only Arbiter of God?

...trouble is, the disaffected Sky Dad crowd hasn't yet gotten the memo. The only God in this Earthly realm is Power, and Power decided about 200 years ago that Mind Control 0.7 Alpha (aka Western paganism) was due for an upgrade. The Scientific Technocracy is upon us, and all who do not kneel before its twisted magnificence will be killed, reconditioned, assimilated, and/or discredited. 

Welcome to the 21st Century, would you like fries with that?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:53 | 5634301 RaceToTheBottom
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And the spaghetti god shall lead them all....

Why else would the one true god have created a colander?

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:54 | 5634309 walktheline
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Are you sure about that?  Remember when that fine upstanding Loyd Blankfein said: 'We're doing Gods work?' Did no one ever stop to ask him which god he was referring to? Cos it sure as shit wasn't the god of Abraham, Isaac etc...........or was it? All these spaced out dudes wandering about in the moubtains and talking to some assumed sky pilot. As the sainted Aleister Crowley explained: 'An angel and a demon wrestled for my soul; naturallty the angel won. The question remains as to which was the angel.' 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 21:38 | 5635334 freak of nature
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"By their fruits you will know them"

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:53 | 5633930 DFCtomm
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It's good to see you MDB, and in such fine form.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 17:16 | 5634420 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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MillionDollarBonus, very well said.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 03:25 | 5635997 IronForge
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For such a tiny minority, they sure raised a whole lot of hell when they burned many cars parked along the streets.

Catch the Rioters in the Act, Jail them, then DEPORT THEM.  Their Race/Religion/Ethnicity are profiling factors.

Offering them incentives to Leave Peacefully seems like a good idea.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:10 | 5633391 Moe Hamhead
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Imprecations against those Ismaelites is not enough, they shoud be summarily eradicated from God's green earth.  Then, and only then, will the so-called peace that their religion calls for come to pass.

And, oh, by the way.. fuck you MDB!  Go back where you were hiding.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:56 | 5633327 The Juggernaut
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Jeeze... those Saudi's are at it again.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 18:56 | 5634849 dooby dooby doo
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Don't talk shit Usurious..The Bankers have nothing to do with a centuries old problem. Time to round 'em up and ship 'em home where they can kill each other for their Illusionary 'gods'. A cult of death has no place in modern society. And stop giving Bankers more credit than they deserve..They aint that smart!!!!

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:50 | 5633267 cossack55
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damn dupes

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:47 | 5633269 Beam Me Up Scotty
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""Our job is not to defend freedom of speech but without it we're dead. We can't live in a country without freedom of speech. I prefer to die than to live like a rat," Charbonnier told ABC News"

Yet people like these vote for the very people that want to stifle speech.  Its only the speech that "they" deem important that they want to protect.  They don't care if the rest of us live like rats.   Speak out against wasteful government spending---TERRORIST!!

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:58 | 5633337 TBT or not TBT
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Most of the French and Europeans believe firmly in regulating certain sensitive speech.    For example, Nazism and Nazi speech or parties.    But communism is cool.  Those murderous totalitarans are peachy.   You can go after Catholics with zeal.   Go after Islam and the state will prosecute you.   What do they need Islamic terrorists for when the ubiquitous nanny state is on the job?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:02 | 5633353 tired1
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Ahem, you're leaving out another 'endangered species'.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:02 | 5633355 BigJim
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Yes, International Socialism is fine. National Socialism - its kissing cousin - is not.

I suppose it's because the former deployed currently acceptable rhetoric while pursuing the same agenda as the latter.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:45 | 5633546 Herd Redirectio...
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Compare and contrast:

The Segregated American South of the 60s (and earlier)

Israel (and behind that checkpoint, Palestine)

Apartheid in South Africa (60s on)

 

The difference is primarily one of Public Relations.  Israel has the best PR, hence they have not been castigated and put into exile as South Africa was.   America conquered ITS race problems by pointing the finger at South Africa, "At least we're not DOING THAT."

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:12 | 5633690 Augustus
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Muslim Palestinians are proud to be murderers of their own people and would certainly support the people who have murdered in Paris.

The South African ANC was proud of murdering other blacks.  Winnie, the lady of the necklace.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:03 | 5633360 knukles
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Sames as in the Land of the Free, Home of the Brave

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:33 | 5633508 taketheredpill
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You can have your "Freedom of Speech" so long as you don't say anything that is forbidden.  As long as you slur the right people the state will throw parades in your honor.

 

Say the wrong things or slur the wrong people and you have a problem with the state.  But you still have the right to say anything you want,so long as you understand that there are consequences.

 

BTW has the comments on site been hacked by trolls or has every person here gone full Nazi?

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:54 | 5633594 Anybody
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I've noticed that too whenever there is such an event. Didn't recognize the site during the Boston marathon bombing.

Of course bombing and invading other countries is quite Kosher because we are defending our freedoms. But if blowback occurs, then it's all their fault as they are evil.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:15 | 5634025 Haus-Targaryen
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Define Nazi. 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:46 | 5633273 Uncle Sugar
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Oboy suspects the Tea Party?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:21 | 5633450 Canuckistan Al
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I'm sure it is the North Koreans!

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:37 | 5634184 noben
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Instead of the Tea Party, he should suspect the.... FLEA PARTY.

They're all around him.  Some are particularly well ensconced.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:51 | 5633289 Dame Ednas Possum
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This will certainly make Hollande think twice before suggesting that the sanctions instructed by Washington should be lifted.

When you dance with the devil you don't choose when to stop.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:11 | 5633401 Bullionaire
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+1

This is Gladio2015

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:18 | 5633439 Dame Ednas Possum
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+1 just for your name.

Name envy. I wanna be one of them. But I tell ta...the wait is fucking painful.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:45 | 5633255 CrazyCooter
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Was another outcome expected with the elites of a nation allow the importation of millions of immigrants who will not fit into the common society?

Going as planned ...

Regards,

Cooter

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:58 | 5633335 mr1963
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"2027" I think the shirts all say. They're breeding themselves right into the majority

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:59 | 5633340 BigJim
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Yup.

I deplore the appalling wars we've unleashed on Muslims in their own countries and the support 'we' give for Israel's ethnic cleansing and genocide-lite.

But that doesn't mean I think it's a good idea to import vast numbers of Muzzies into our own countries.

I don't want to live in Egypt, or Morrocco, or Iran. But if we get a sufficiently large number of Muslims living here that's what our countries will begin to look like.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:05 | 5633364 Headbanger
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NUKE EM ALL NOW!!

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:22 | 5633448 Dame Ednas Possum
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Gotta understand...it dilutes a race that viably competes with the tribe.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:48 | 5633575 Herd Redirectio...
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Its all part of the "Howz about you and him fight?" strategy.

Umm, myabe we should be FIGHTING the matchmaker, the puppeteer, the warmonger/financier BEHIND the scenes?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:55 | 5633596 BigJim
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Yes, 'surprising', isn't it, the number of people who swear Israel has a right to be a Jewish state, but decry any move to retard 3rd-world immigration into the West as 'racist'.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:09 | 5633390 Kobe Beef
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All hail Die-versity! Charlie Hebdo has hereby been culturally enriched.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:47 | 5634244 noben
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Diversity worked just fine when it was all-European diversity, with some Indian and Chinese minorities thrown in.

It didn't fall apart in N. Am. until different and primitive civilizations came along from Africa and the ME, that did not and could not truly integrate.  Thanks, UK!  Thanks, USA!

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:46 | 5633271 BigJim
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 as he puts Paris on high terrorist alert as the manhunt for the reported 3 killers continues.

Forget it Hollande, they're in a private jet on their way back to Tel Aviv already.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:53 | 5633298 Dame Ednas Possum
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Somewhere a few Israelis are dancing beside their video camera tripod.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:56 | 5633942 DFCtomm
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Is a cigar ever a cigar? When you get up in the morning and you're out of coffee, was a Mossad agent responsible?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:38 | 5633520 Squid Viscous
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how convenient that a synagogue was car bombed today in Paris as well, so we don't forget who the "good guys" are...

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:48 | 5633276 ShrNfr
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He has to ask Jarret and Sharpton first. Give him some time.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:02 | 5633354 TBT or not TBT
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Our anti western president is already on record disapproving of Charlie Hebdo's cartoons, at the time they were printed.   Numerous statements of his condemn free speech about the psycho death cult prophet.  

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:02 | 5633958 buyingsterling
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"Barry Hussein, where are you on this one?"

waiting for the police photos so he can have a wank

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 17:41 | 5634526 markpower49
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White men everywhere to cleanse the world of violent minorities, and not just Muslims.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:44 | 5633246 KnuckleDragger-X
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The Islamists are creating a situation where everybody will be sorry they turned the middle east into smoking wreckage, ex post facto of course.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:04 | 5633352 Richard Chesler
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Not everybody.

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:31 | 5633494 walküre
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Saddam Hussein or the Colonel Muamar Ghaddafi were the best guarantors against any forms of radical islamism.

Those two KNEW how fucked up islam can be and what utter fuck-ups their people can turn into once control over the islamifcation has been released.

Iran is the prime example of that.

Instead of taking out Saddam and Ghaddafi, they should have bombed every bloody mosque and dropped a nuke on that fucking black rock in Mecca.

Be done with it once and for all.

There is only one solution to have peace with Islam and that is to make sure it's gone and never coming back.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:54 | 5633595 Bananamerican
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Is that your "final" solution?
How bout if we just keep them OUT of the West and let them continue to chew on each other's asses?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:08 | 5633987 buyingsterling
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Amen. Islam will eventally spell the end of political correctness. Hitler temporarily screwed whites worldwide, so that defense of anything white is seen as racist by the 'popular' culture. But that is an anachronism - every people deserve to live unmolested if they can protect themselves. We can, but choose not to so that we can see this national guilt trip through to the end. Islam will help to make us a serious people again.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:37 | 5634188 KnuckleDragger-X
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I've been saying for years that we need to cut off all foriegn aid, especially food. We've been feeding them and they've bred well beyond their capacity to support themselves, time to go full Darwin.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:58 | 5633612 Herd Redirectio...
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Hmm, I wonder which tribe hates Islam, esp. its 'no usury' clause?  Of course this aspect of Islam has been heavily diluted in modern times...

But seriously, anyone who think of Saudi Arabia when they think of Islam, thats just messed up.  They are our biggest allies (!!!) AND the most extremist Muslims you will ever meet.  The House of Saud is rumored to be crypto-Jews.  So take that into account when you see how Islam has been 'divided and conquered'.

Seriously.  We say shit like "they hide their terrorists".  Think about it for a second.  There is someone batshit crazy in your neighborhood.  Probably he is receiving training and financing from the CIA (or subsidiary).  Hey, why not CALL HIM OUT?  Oh, because you will get your head cut off? 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:50 | 5634271 noben
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Why can't we just let them (in the ME) duke/nuke it out?

Winner takes all.  Then sells us oil cheap.  Or else...

Just make sure that the MIC and Banking Mofu's from the US and EU stay out and stop stirring the pot.  Problem solved.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:49 | 5633278 Number 156
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I think France may have just been conquered by a car full of islamic militants.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:50 | 5633293 Occams_Chainsaw
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For Sale: French rifles....like new....never fired....dropped once.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:05 | 5633370 Number 156
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Q: How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris?

A: Nobody knows, it's never been tried.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:50 | 5633581 PacOps
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Actually wasn't there one lone French anti-terrorist cop that ran down the yout who, without paying, jumped the turnstile and ran to a train only to be tackeled and shot in the head by the cop.

Does that count?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:54 | 5634293 Analyse2
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Vomit comments

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:00 | 5633952 Freddie
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What have Americans done to save America?  Idiots cannot even turn off TV and Hollywood.

Oh we voted.  Boehner and the GOP are the same as Obama.   The French will actually take to  the streets and protest.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:19 | 5634060 Overfed
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Protest, schmo-test. Let me know when the French start deporting their failed cultural enrichment experiment.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:55 | 5633315 Dame Ednas Possum
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Impressive. It only took a lone nutter to conquer Australia 3 weeks ago.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:26 | 5633464 realWhiteNight123129
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 Radulph of Caen (Caen is a city in France) and Alberto of Aix (another city of France)  coming back from the expedition (Crusade) in December 1098 in, Ma´arra (Syria), said: the troops boiled pagan adults in cooking pots, and impaled the children on spits and devoured muslims grilled. We love gastronomy in France. 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 17:32 | 5638849 Analyse2
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@Number156

Wimpy Cops and Scared Soldiers: Why Are Americans Such Cowards?

By Ted Rall

America has a problem that afflicts both her foreign policy and domestic affairs: cowardice. A nation of wusses. That’s us.

That’s not how we see ourselves, of course. Whatever our flaws – impetuousness, naïveté, our sense of exceptionalism – few Americans count pusillanimity among them. For conservatives bravery as a national trait is a given; if anything, progressives wish we’d walk it back a bit, toning down the testosterone in favor of a little humility.

From the outside, however, we look like a nation happy to inflict all manner of mayhem on people all over the world, yet unwilling to put our own precious skins in the game.

Drones are the ultimate manifestation of America’s newfound risk aversion. After more than 12 years of remote-controlled aerial killer robot warfare, the statistics are undeniable: unmanned aerial vehicles are a ridiculously sloppy assassination method that kills anywhere from 28 to 49 times more innocent civilians than targeted alleged terrorists. With the myth of accuracy thoroughly debunked, drones remain popular with the public for one reason: they don’t expose American soldiers to return fire.

What we see as an advantage, however, sparks contempt among foreigners that our adversaries in this war for hearts and minds exploit in their recruitment and fundraising efforts. You see it in the faces of the Afghans and Pakistanis I have interviewed: if the United States military had any honor, they say, it would come and face our warriors man to man, on the battlefield, rather than pushing a button thousands of miles away. Every “terrorist” we blow up makes us look worse.

Moreover, cowardice is unproductive on a psychological level.

During the early years of the American occupation of Iraq, British forces (who patrolled the region around Basra) suffered lower casualty rates in the zones under their control than their American counterparts. One reason, according to military psychologists, is that British troops presented themselves as more willing to expose themselves to the Iraqi public and less afraid of being hurt or killed. Whereas US forces wore wrap-around sunglasses and set up checkpoints behind sandbags and blast walls, sometimes identifying themselves only by shooting at approaching cars – which caused confused Iraqis to floor the gas, prompting US forces to kill them – the Brits acted more relaxed, like traffic agents standing right out on the road. Americans covered themselves with Kevlar and automatic rifles; the British wore formfitting uniforms, eschewed helmets and satisfied themselves with sidearms. Sunglasses were banned. The American approach seemed safer, but the opposite was true. It’s easier to shoot at something – the Americans looked like fascist robots – than someone.

For a country that used to pride itself on a certain stoicism, the United States has become a land of whiny little boys and girls.

Oh, how we cried after 9/11. 3000 dead! Those “Wounded Warrior” TV ads asking for donations to support Afghanistan and Iraq war veterans – excuse me, but why am I spending 54% of my federal tax dollars on defense if I also have to donate to a sketchy charity? – use the same melancholy tone and weepy delivery as Sally Struthers’ classic “save the children” messages. Obviously, it sucks to lose your arms and legs, but let’s grow a pair. Fewer than 7,000 Americans got killed invading two countries they had no business in in the first place.

Let’s put those numbers into proper perspective, shall we? The Soviet Union lost 20 million people fighting the Nazis (who invaded them, by the way). France lost 11% of its population during World War I — the equivalent for us would be 34 million Americans. But the Russians or French don’t bitch and moan as much as us.

Speaking of which, Americans have a lot of balls calling Frenchman “surrender monkeys” considering that nearly twice as many French soldiers were killed in in the 1940 Battle of France over six weeks as the United States lost in Vietnam over the course of a decade. Meanwhile, we’re still whining about the 58,000 we lost in – no, invadingVietnam.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:49 | 5633281 SethDealer
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pussy french wont do anything

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:33 | 5633446 realWhiteNight123129
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 Radulph of Caen (Caen is a city in France) and Alberto of Aix (another city of France)  coming back from the expedition (Crusade) in December 1098 in, Ma´arra (Syria), said: the troops boiled pagan adults in cooking pots, and impaled the children on spits and devoured muslims grilled. We love gastronomy in France. 

The barbecue took place here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Ma'arra

 

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:33 | 5633505 walküre
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Wrong. At least they have Le Pen. What do we have? The French killed off their parasitic royalties centuries ago. There is definitely the will to act in those people.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 17:25 | 5634464 Freddie
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The USA cannot even get the GOP to replace Bohener.  

Americans watch TV, ball games and Hollyood like sheep.   Cheering on NCAA, NFL, NBA Trayvons like retards,

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:12 | 5633418 docmac324
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Liveleak posted a video this AM of the attack.  One bad guy shot a policeman, in the head, at close range.  There was no blood, or splatter aftermath.  7.62MM leaves a lot of blood.

Might be more here than meets the eye.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:28 | 5634139 detached.amusement
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I keep waiting for the pushback. Hopefully this will start a real movement.

 

Racer, this WAS the pushback - by TPTB, on france, for even suggesting we stop those sanctions on russia.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 23:52 | 5635732 Notveryamused
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'The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.'

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:36 | 5633210 RacerX
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double-post

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:37 | 5633219 Occams_Chainsaw
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Just a little workplace violence.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:58 | 5633610 ILLILLILLI
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You forgot this one, which is the most relevant to the news under discussion:

France parliament votes in support of recognizing Palestine, Israel says peace process will suffer

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 17:00 | 5634304 noben
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Nice yamika, Rand.  http://wtfrly.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/randzio...

I find it interesting that, like other US politicians who have visited Israel, Libertarian-Republican Rand Paul has also become a pro-Israel politician.  Ditto for Ted Cruze.  A truly remarkable 95% Correlation.  Now let's look for the Causation.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:40 | 5633230 madcows
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build a big fucking wall around the middle east, put all the goat humpers in there, and don't let anyone out.  That, or forced sterilization of all muslims.  enough.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:59 | 5633341 Dame Ednas Possum
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Will the wall be high enough to keep out the oil thieves and their dogs of war?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:10 | 5633400 TBT or not TBT
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You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.   But that's the spirit.    Haven't seen a lot of Jap or Kraut atrocities since Hiroshima and Dresden(and the whole rest of Germany) were laid waste.    Islam delenda est.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:19 | 5634065 Haus-Targaryen
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This is one of the most fucked comments I have seen on ZH -- ever. 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:40 | 5633231 LukeWorm
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"I prefer to die standing up, rather than to live on my knees"
That's what he said (in French, of course)

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:43 | 5633238 Mayer Amschel R...
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Why wasn't it OK for Serbia to clean up its own low-life muslim mess in Kosovo?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:10 | 5633377 mog
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Why wasn't it OK for Serbia to clean up its own low-life muslim mess in Kosovo?kids Madeleine Albright re

Good question. Under 'WACO' General Wesley Clark we bombed Serbia to smithereens. In his own words 'bombed them back to the stoneage'.

Killed hundreds of their people after sanctioning them for years.

500 Serbian kids died in Belgrade Children's Hospital because medication was not available. 500 more kids Madeleine Albright thought were a price worth paying.

And all for the Saudi aligned wahhabi KLA - a vile islamic fundamentalist group which committed acts of unspeakable terror against the Serbs in their own country.

Thanks Billary. Thanks blair, Thanks NATO NATO became the airforce of the KLA.

Bombed Serbian civilians for 78 days and nights from 30,000 feet and left 600,000 ethnically cleansed refugees from their own lands. 10,000s dead. All as with Iraq based on blatant fabricated lies.

One of the blackest pages on post war history.

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 17:29 | 5634482 Freddie
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What do Wesley Clark and Madeline Albright have in common besides being evil?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:43 | 5634226 buyingsterling
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Because the Serbs are Orthodox Christian?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:42 | 5633241 Dr. Engali
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Maybe France should ban guns..... Oh wait.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:46 | 5633259 KnuckleDragger-X
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"They made a desert and called it peace" its happened before.....

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:46 | 5633260 unplugged
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here comes France's "patriot act"

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:47 | 5633262 pupdog1
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Apparently, The Golfer-in-Chief has been slow in grasping that this was muzzie terrorism.

Holder has been dispatched to France to ensure that the muzzies' rights are not violated.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:50 | 5633286 Beam Me Up Scotty
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Golf Clap!!

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:47 | 5633264 Ms. Erable
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Lesson to the West: when you hire barbarians to build and guard your gates (not to mention letting them run your financial world), don't be surprised when it's easy for them to tear down those gates and pillage at will.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:47 | 5633270 doggis
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DO YOU FEEL EMOTIONAL MANIPULATED? FALSE FLAG?

 

A GOOD MARTYR FOR ISLAM GIVES UP HIS LIFE AS WELL AND MAKES THE CAUSE FOR ALLAH KNOWN.

 

3 GUNMEN ATTACKERS HIDING? HMMMMMM......

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:55 | 5633316 BigJim
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Yup, cui bono.

Mind you, there are plenty of Muslims who believe anyone mocking the prophet is fair game for a bloody death.

Sometimes an atrocity in the name of Islam really is just an atrocity in the name of Islam, rather than a false flag.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:05 | 5633376 williambanzai7
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Obozo says terrorists fear freedom of press....bwahahahaha!

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:13 | 5633420 Dame Ednas Possum
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They confronted their fears.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:35 | 5634173 WTFUD
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One sick puppy Obama is.

What's Cat Stevens take on this?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:12 | 5633407 knukles
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Yep!

Way too many folks have taken the red/blue,us/them,left/right,Arab/Jew,whatever, fallen prey to a Hegelian Dialectic rabbit hole of abysmal proportions wherein they no longer see what is to be seen and reject that which is to be rejected, instead falling prey to their own self-reinforcing cognitive biases.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:48 | 5633272 doggis
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DO YOU FEEL EMOTIONAL MANIPULATED? FALSE FLAG?

 

A GOOD MARTYR FOR ISLAM GIVES UP HIS LIFE AS WELL AND MAKES THE CAUSE FOR ALLAH KNOWN.

 

3 GUNMEN ATTACKERS HIDING? HMMMMMM......

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:52 | 5633290 Number 156
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The one who is emotionally manipulated is the one double posting in all caps.

Cool your jets dude.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:53 | 5633308 Dr. Engali
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Stop shouting, you're hurting my feelings.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:13 | 5633416 knukles
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I was already sobbing and now I need to see my therapist again today

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:49 | 5633277 JR
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"Our job is not to defend freedom of speech but without it we're dead. We can't live in a country without freedom of speech. I prefer to die than to live like a rat,” -- Stephane Charbonnier

If Charlie’s Stephane can have freedom of speech in France, why can’t we have freedom of speech in America (any attack on the Zionist agenda is not free speech but hate speech as evidenced by the many people, including former Congressmen, who have lost their jobs or who have been severely abused by the media while practicing “free speech" in America)?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:06 | 5633372 worbsid
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I do not agree with what you say but I will die for your right to say it. You have the right to say whatever you damn well please. I also have the right to fire your ass for what you say.  All of these things rather ballance out in a relatively free country.  

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:52 | 5633586 JR
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So, you have the right to fire me for what I say? That makes “free” speech rather costly, doesn’t it? Because of the media bias and the work place discrimination, especially on comments interpreted as anti-gay or anti-Jewish, America now has severe limits on free speech.  It's called media monopoly.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 17:46 | 5634555 worbsid
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JR, I am talking about reality of the workplace, not wishfull free speech thinking.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:49 | 5633285 Jager06
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Gun control works in France. This would have been worse if the perpetrators were able to get firearms and ....maybe even a Rocket Propelled Grenade Launcher (RPG). We need to try to understand them more and give them room to express themselves. We should also acknowledge their sensibilities. I for one think that putting my wife and daughters into a Hijab might stop skin cancer in its tracks! Right?

We should all apologize that Muslims had to resort to this level of angst to get their voices heard. I cant imagine how badly the perpetrators must feel that they had to resort to this in order to make it understood that they love their religion and don't like being made fun of. They are going to have to live with the shocking images of dying French journalists and comedians etched into their memories and the inescapable Post Traumatic Disorder of having to act out in order to gain equal rights in racist repressive France.

The poor kids. We should have moment of silence for them and wish them Allah speed in their journey toward obtaining equal rights of Muslims to never ever ever be offended.

//SARC OFF

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:55 | 5633319 agstacks
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yup, pretty much. +1

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:23 | 5633386 Dame Ednas Possum
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We need to stop invading their countries, murdering their families, stealing their resources and insulting their way of life.

action. reaction.

a child understands this from a very early age.

walk a mile in their shoes. what would you do?

Note: vomiting a brainwashed response simply explains why this situation exists in the first place.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:42 | 5633542 madcows
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This is the response of the moronic left wing loonies:  "If we just hug it out, talk to them, accept them, permit them to implement their laws, blah blah blah."  Enough of this stupid appeasement talk.  Muslims want to kill non-muslims in the name of their god.  it's that fucking simple.  hell, they want to kill each other b/c the other muzzie is or isn't practicing islam correctly.  oh, and if you speak out?  they'll shoot you in the head.  go on, ask mallalah what's her name, the girl that spoke out and was shot and got a nobel prize.

FUCK ISLAM.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:02 | 5633676 blabam
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I wonder how muslims would treat us if the roles were reversed... They wouldn't have abolished slavery that's for sure. 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:25 | 5634109 Dame Ednas Possum
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Does mummy put a cork on the end of your fork for you?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:14 | 5633709 BigJim
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 We need to stop invading their countries, murdering their families, stealing their resources and insulting their way of life.
action. reaction.
a child understands this from a very early age.
walk a mile in their shoes. what would you do?
Note: vomiting a brainwashed response simply explains why this situation exists in the first place.

We should definitely stop doing all those things.

However, even in a world where the West wasn't killing Muslims hand over fist, chances are still pretty good that Charlie Hebdo would have been targeted by Muslims who take insults to their prophet very much to heart.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:13 | 5634004 Jager06
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D.E.P....

So which came first? Islamic Jihad? Or the Western incursions?

I suggest you take a careful look at history from the ISLAMIC perspective on this. They readily admit the Crusades were in response to them advancing in the Cause of Allah.

 

For you to sit there and say "i told you so." based on your lack of insight is...well...without insight.

Which makes you a tool.

Remember Sept. 11, 1683? Do you know that's the reason they attacked us on 9/11/01?

Do you know who cosigned The Final Solution for the Jews with Hitler? Hint: It was the leader of the people you are defending in your ignorance right now.

Did we invade Afghanistan BEFORE or AFTER 9/11?

Did we invade Iraq BEFORE or AFTER 9/11?

Has the truth about the weapons of mass destruction in Iraq been released finally? (Not on HUFFPO or the Daily KOS)

What does the Principle of Abrogation have to do with Islamic Jihad and Islamic expansionism?

Since you know understand Islamic Jihad and expansionism is a religious requirement, who is the radical muslim, the one who lives next door in peace with you, in violation of the Koran, or the one who picks up a gun and kills in the name of Allah?

 

Also: I'm pretty sure no one said "Hey you fuckers killed my (Insert relatives name here) and now I am declaring war! or You fuckers invaded my sand pit and now I am going to move to your country and commit terror on you!

 

No they actually say "WE WANT TO KILL YOU BECAUSE OUR GOD DEMANDS THATS WHAT WE DO"

So who is lying? You, you ignorant fuck? or The jihadis who tell you exactly why they are doing things and point to 1400 years of the same behavior (written out of western history) as the example of how to proceed.

 

You are a tool. Get out of your moms basement or from under the Professors desk and get a life.

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:35 | 5634075 Dame Ednas Possum
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Like I said...vomiting a brainwashed response simply explains why this situation exists in the first place.

A small portion of us have evolved beyond your primitive state.

But I would't expect you to understand that anymore than a rhesus monkey understands chess.

Oh yeah...criminal elements in your own government perpetrated 9/11 to create imbeciles like you. I know that's painful to your little mind but hey...go fuck yourself...you tool.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:41 | 5634214 Jager06
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Evolution violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics. If you have studied half of what you lemmings espouse over your lattes in the Castro, you might realize how stupid you truly are saying something about evolution. I bet you think we need to save the environment too right? But you espouse evolving....hahaha! If its evolving how can you save it in its current state?

 

You people crack me up with your little liberal religion. Blinders in place? Good boy! Now go suck some dick to make sure you still don't like it!

So I guess your the one vomiting brainwashed faith based belief systems.

I wish I could give you and award! I would make sure all the other liberal trolls got the award too so no one got left out. We might have to hoist you up about halfway to the street lamp to get the ribbon around your neck though.

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 23:23 | 5635648 Dame Ednas Possum
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You are truly pitiful.

And thanks for the death threat.

Come and get it mother fucker.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 17:17 | 5634417 noben
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You need to choose your words better... You need to distinguish between Gun Control and Gun Ban.  Both Franc and the US have Gun Control.  They control theirs a bit tighter than in the US, but you can still have them.

The other thing is, you make a false argument that suggests that having less gun control is the solution.  You mean, the having lots of guns is a solution in US cities?  Where would most people feel safer: in cities like Chicago or Detroit, or cities like London, Berlin, Geneva, Oslo, Stockholm? (I've been in all of these for a period of time and read the crime stats, so you can't bullshit me).

Even as an owner of numerous handguns and rifles, I contend that you make a False Argument of the real issues of this tragedy.  Entertaining as your explanation/solution might be.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 19:13 | 5634899 walktheline
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Dude, places like Tehran and Tabriz are safer than a lot of US AND European cities, and they're full of Scandinavian and Japanese tourists having a good time seeing what another culture actually looks like, as opposed to something reported by Fox News that gets the average right wing twat posting on here foaming at the mouth.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:49 | 5633287 gcjohns1971
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So...

Will Le Pen be mightier than the Sword?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:51 | 5633296 blabam
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Nice.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:19 | 5633438 Herd Redirectio...
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I think they used to prefer sabres back in the day.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:54 | 5633591 meistergedanken
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I think you mean SCIMITARS.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:04 | 5633637 Herd Redirectio...
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Put a curved blade in the hands of a Russian cossack, and its a sabre.

Put the same curved blade in the hands of an Ottoman, and it becomes a scimitar.  Am I right?  Spot on, though.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:51 | 5633291 Dr. Engali
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Brave man. I wonder if he understood the fact that the founding fathers gave us the second amendment to back up the first.

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