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"It's A Butchery" - 12 Killed In Terrorist Attack On French Satirical Magazine Charlie Hebdo: Live Webcast

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A tragedy is unfolding in Paris at the moment where armed men stormed the Paris offices of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo on Wednesday morning, killing “at least 12 people” and injuring more, said a police officer. As a reminder, it was in November 2011 when the Charlie Hebdo’s headquarters were gutted by fire, hours before a special issue of the weekly featuring the Prophet Muhammad appeared on newsstands. Since then, the weekly moved to a new location, which was guarded by police, who were also shot at Wednesday morning. The shooters opened fire inside the magazine’s offices using automatic AK-47 rifles before fleeing, said the officer, cited by the WSJ. The attackers, described as "a commando with Kalasnikov and pump action... they went in there to kill" are believed to still be at large as France is "in shock" according to its president.

More details from AP:

Masked gunmen stormed the offices of a French satirical newspaper Wednesday, killing 11 people before escaping, police and a witness said. The weekly has previously drawn condemnation from Muslims.

 

French President Francois Hollande called the slayings a terrorist attack and said that several other terror attacks have been thwarted "in recent weeks."

 

Xavier Castaing, head of communications for the Paris police prefecture, confirmed the deaths in the shooting at the offices of Charlie Hebdo, a satirical weekly that been repeatedly threatened for publishing caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad, among other controversial sketches.

 

Hollande rushed to the scene and top government officials planned an emergency meeting.

 

Luc Poignant, an official of the SBP police union, said the attackers escaped in two vehicles.

 

A witness to the attack, Benoit Bringer, told the iTele network he saw multiple masked men armed with automatic weapons at the newspaper's office in central Paris.

In this video one can hear gun shots as the commentator remarks it is an automatic weapon. A woman can be seen running down the street and diving for cover between two cars.

A snapshot of what the alleged attackers look like via @Zaidbenjamin:

As Guardian's Alexandra Topping writes: "The journalist Martin Boudot, from the Premières Lignes agency, has posted this video from the roof of a building situated close to the Charlie Hebdo building. we can hear gunshots and voices who cry ‘Allahu akbar’. In the distance we can see at least two people who appear to be fleeing.

Other newspapers in Paris have been placed under police protection, according to Le Monde.

French president Francois Hollande quickly arrived at the scene of what he called is clearly a terrorist attack. The latest headline updates from Bloomberg as they come in:

  • HOLLANDE SAYS 11 PEOPLE KILLED IN PARIS SHOOTINGS
  • PARIS ON HIGH TERRORIST ALERT, HOLLANDE SAYS
  • FRANCE’S HOLLANDE SAYS THE ATTACK IS A TERRORIST ACTION
  • HOLLANDE: SEVERAL TERRORIST ATTACKS FOILED IN RECENT WEEKS
  • HOLLANDE: FOUR PEOPLE ARE ’BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH’

The latest from Guardian:

A French police official says 11 people are dead in a shooting at a satirical weekly newspaper in central Paris.

 

Xavier Castaing, head of communications for the Paris police prefecture, confirmed the deaths.

 

French President Francois Hollande was headed to the scene of Wednesday’s shooting at Charlie Hebdo, a satirical weekly that has drawn repeated threats for its caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed, among other controversial sketches.

Hollande's full statement:

Francois Hollande has been speaking to the media. He said that 11 people had been killed and four people seriously injured but 40 people had been rescued.

 

Hollande said that the security level had been increased in Paris and a number of terrorist plots had been foiled in recent weeks.
An emergency meeting will be held at the Elysees Palace in the next hour.

 

Hollande said France had experienced “an exceptional act of barbarism committed against a newspaper”.

 

France was facing a “shock”, he added. “We need to show we are a united country,” he said.

 

France had to be “firm and strong” adding: “We will fight these threats and we will punish the attackers.”

 

France had been targeted because it was a country of freedom but no one would be allowed to go against “the spirit of the republic” in this way.

Key updates via Twitter:

More on the controversial history of Charlie Hebdo via the Guardian:

Charlie Hebdo has a long record of taking its satire seriously. The weekly magazine’s response to previous efforts at intimidation was to be even more controversial or outrageous, defying the constraints of religious sensitivity or political correctness.

 

In November 2011, its offices were fire-bombed after it had published a special edition, supposedly guest-edited by the Prophet Mohammed and temporarily renamed ‘Charia Hebdo’. The cover was a cartoon of Mohammed threatening the readers with ‘a hundred lashes if you don’t die laughing’.

 

The petrol bomb attack completely destroyed the Paris offices, the magazine’s website was hacked and the staff were subjected to death threats. But six days later, it published a new front page depicting a male Charlie Hebdo cartoonist passionately kissing a bearded Muslim man in front of the charred aftermath of the bombing. The headline this time was: L’Amour plus fort que la haine (Love is stronger than hate).

 

Less than a year after that, it published more cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed, including images of him naked and a cover showing him being pushed along in a wheelchair by an Orthodox Jew. The French government had appealed to the magazine not to go ahead with publication, and shut down embassies and schools in twenty countries when it went ahead anyway, out of fear of reprisals.

Live webcast from France 24:

 

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Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:13 | 5631704 wesson
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Qualifies for false flag !

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:17 | 5631711 blabam
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I'm sorry but plenty of fucked up muslims in this world. 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:16 | 5631713 SoilMyselfRotten
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If only they had Britains child extremist ID program

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:17 | 5631721 Haus-Targaryen
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This won't help Marie la Pen at all.  

/sarc 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:20 | 5631731 Dr Benway
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LOL every single attack is a "false flag" on ZH... So there are no real flags at all, eh?

The tards on here think we should just submit to the terrorists, and then they'll stop. If we only appease their every demand, ban free speech and let them insitute sharia hell across the globe, then they will magically stop attacking us. Sure.

You bitches don't even understand the concept of an implacable enemy, an enemy to which any attempt at appeasement or compromise is merely a sign of weakness, an enemy to the death.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:28 | 5631755 Infinite QE
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The thing that people like you do not understand is that many of these extremists, perhaps all, are either trained by US/Israel forces OR created by policies of the same. Look at the millions of people killed directly by the zionist desire to create greater israel. A sham of an idea by people who really stem from eastern europe, not the middle east. Until this madness stops, these kinds of attacks will only accelerate.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:33 | 5631782 LasVegasDave
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motherfucker, shut the fuck up.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:34 | 5631790 cossack55
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Reinhard, is that you?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:43 | 5631823 smackdabonurass
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How many ethnic Russians were killed by the bolshevik jews?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:45 | 5631835 Latina Lover
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Quoting Dr. Benway " You bitches don't even understand the concept of an implacable enemy, an enemy to which any attempt at appeasement or compromise is merely a sign of weakness, an enemy to the death"  End Quote.

 

Yes we do understand the concept of an implacable enemy,  it is called our Federal Government, controlled by pedophilic, psychopathic, bankster elites.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:46 | 5631840 Upswaller
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The gunmen must have missed the "Coexist" sticker on the car outside.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:50 | 5631848 CaptainObvious
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Every time I see one of those bumper stickers, I have to suppress the urge to give that car a swift kick or a gob of phlegm.  How can one coexist with a group who decides one must convert or die?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:54 | 5631859 Latina Lover
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BTW very early reports indicate  that the perp was a LONE Gunman, who was, suprise, killed.  Sound familiar?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:53 | 5631864 CaptainObvious
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Ah, the Lone Gunman Who Died at the Scene.  Yeah, seems I've read this fairy tale before.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:07 | 5631877 Latina Lover
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Straight out of the CIA 'Operation Gladio' Handbook.  Thanks for the confirmation <g>

 

Just ask who benefits from this atrocity?  Muslims, who are about to be further persecuted and killed in the name of the war against Terror?  Or the USSA, who gets to hook France back into their phony narratives, and perhaps prevent France from making peace with Russia, since the USSA ALWAYS benefits from european war?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:13 | 5631943 Slave
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Obviously France needs to ban automatic AK-47 rifles.

/sarc

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:34 | 5631995 Latina Lover
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Or limit Muslim immigration.

 

BTW, I am still waiting for the gun men passports to fall out of the sky unburnt.

 

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:10 | 5632199 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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Dumbass frenchmen. If you're gonna make fun of head-hunters and liver-eaters, you better be armed and able to defend yourself.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:18 | 5632228 Uchtdorf
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To the firearms experts here:

See that tight pattern of holes in the police car windshield? Kalishnakov or shotgun?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:25 | 5632268 Calmyourself
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Some reports have mentioned a shotgun, time will tell, remember kids shooting through a windshield from the outside normally deflects bullets down, from the inside up, ymmv.  My psa of the day..

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:42 | 5632356 BaBaBouy
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Socailist Leaders Rejoice, Your Policies Are Ingenious...
Give Us MOAR Of Your FUCKED UP Policies...

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:01 | 5632439 Save_America1st
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while this isn't a "false flag" type of attack or event, don't think for a second that these musloid scum don't know very well the effect attacks like this end up having against our free society.

They know that this ultimately causes a massive overreaction politically and the next thing that happens are more restrictive laws that go against our freedom and liberty.

Win-Win for the musloids and a Win-Win for the authoritarians in government who want to dictate and rule our lives. 

Don't think for a second the MIC, the militarized police, and big tyrannical government doesn't benefit from terrorist attacks.

They're all for it in the end as they use this to tighten their grip on society.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:13 | 5632521 bob_stl
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It must be a false flag because, it's impossible that their can be evil assholes anywhere in the world except our federal government. /sarc

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 12:39 | 5632912 0b1knob
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< A tragedy.

< Dead journalists, nothing of value lost.  

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:34 | 5633195 El Vaquero
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Huston, we have liftoff!  Europe isn't going to have a race war, it is going to have a culture war.  Good times for all!

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:45 | 5633256 aPlayer
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Jews are good and loving people.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:21 | 5633441 TerminalDebt
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Butchery!!!  Time for some Dronery.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:55 | 5633593 Xibalba
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A god who is threatened by a cartoon is frail indeed.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:20 | 5633730 The9thDoctor
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It's foolish to comment so early on whether this is a "false flag" or not.

Give it a week or two as more information comes in and it will be more obvious one way or another.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:42 | 5633877 gladih8r
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um, when you say "loving"....are you referring to anal or what?

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:15 | 5633424 El Vaquero
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Exactly.  Never let a good crisis go to waste.  The real solution to this is to publish whatever loud and proud, and let the people fend for themselves.  It could get very brutal, but that brutality is already baked into the cake. 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:02 | 5633630 ebear
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A serious miscalculation is how I see it.  Police were killed in the attack.  So, from this point forward, how much effort will the police put forth investigating attacks on Muslims?   Soon it will be as dangerous to be a Muslim in France as it was to be a jew in Germany in the 1930's.

You don't have to wish for this to see it as the most likely outcome.  Push anyone far enough and you'll get a reaction, and I'm guessiing the French have had just about enough at this point.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:06 | 5632467 SilverIsKing
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Was this not a gun free zone?  Zone sans armes signs might have prevented this.

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 12:15 | 5632824 Pairadimes
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This was clearly another case of workplace violence. Just ask Obama.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:01 | 5633016 JungleCat
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Note that THEIR socialist president called it a terrorist attack.

But OUR socialist president still calls Ft. Hood "workplace violence".

That's odd - I never expected to be pining for the clear thinking of French Socialists.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:19 | 5633116 Chewybunny
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You assume it's clear thinking on their behalf.

It just points out the insanity we have in the US.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:50 | 5634266 ZeroSense
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Terrorism is reserved for Islam/Muslims only, And that includes the moderate and fundamentalists

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:08 | 5632486 N2OJoe
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Good thing all those evil civillians are disarmed by their own government or they may have had a whole mess of tragic terrorist death on their hands that day.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 21:06 | 5635243 RichardParker
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I wonder what would have happened if they tried to pull off something like this in Switzerland?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:25 | 5632272 Fiscal.Enema
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Thats a AK or other high velocity rounds, metal jacket. Shotgun would produce shattering effect on wind screen, even larger shot would cause shattering or spalling and not clean holes. 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:13 | 5632522 bpj
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OO buckshot is 33 calber

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:27 | 5632279 Scoobywan
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Too small of a pattern to be a shotgun, unless at very close range, and shooting ball shot.

Whoever took those shots knows how to shoot.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:36 | 5632325 Calmyourself
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Really, shot a lot of 00 buck have ya sport, silver dollar pattern at -10 yards, dinner plate pattern max at 15-20 yards, try it you'll like it..

 

Box o' truth . com

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:48 | 5632381 Zymurguy
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I think the size of the holes would indicate a larger caliber rifle round vs. a shotgun (even if they were using 00buck).  Doesn't look like automatic fire either.  I'd say intermediate to large caliber rifle - semi automatic and a well trained shooter.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:51 | 5632393 Scoobywan
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Hey dickface, 100 yards is close range to me asshole.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:53 | 5632400 Calmyourself
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Stop that your scaring me, I'll tell tyler on you..

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:27 | 5633468 El Vaquero
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So, is that 10 yards figure for an extra full choke, a full choke, a modified choke, an improved cylinder or no choke?  IMO, what's on the windshield looks like semiautomatic rifle fire, but divining what actually was used without precise measurements is folly.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 17:08 | 5634385 Calmyourself
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Exactly which is why I never mentioned which weapon did it just the pattern 00 makes out of a no choke shotty..  Thanks for noticing my careful post appreciated..

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 18:44 | 5634804 mickeyman
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Putin's fault.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:00 | 5632436 replaceme
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Yea, that was the first think I thought - that grouping from an automatic rifle was pretty f*cking accurate, especially if it went from drive to passenger... Not some school kids watching YouTube videos. 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:22 | 5633744 actionjacksonbrownie
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You shoot the passenger first - he's the one that's armed.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:29 | 5632603 BLOTTO
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Neither...

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The 'bullet holes' are stickers

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 12:02 | 5632763 Dark Space
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Automatic rifle rounds. Clearly one of the gunman has an AK in one of the videos, but based on that picture alone you can tell by the well-formed holes and size of the holes that they're likely rifle rounds (could be 5.56, for instance).

You can eliminate shotgun pretty quickly because even shells with larger shot in them are going to create smaller holes than that and they'll be so tightly grouped (at least at, say, 10 yards) that they just completely crunch in the window with little shot marks all around the main impact area. At further distances they would leave wider patterns and more discernable small holes. Google shotgun wounds and look some of the shoulders and sides of folks - it looks like someone attacked them with a mechanical pencil tip, rather than holes that are wider in circumference than the main body of the pencil.

They could alternatively be pistol rounds, but they'd have to be a heavy caliber and FMJ to make nice clean holes like that. Pistol rounds travel at substantially slower speeds than rifle rounds, and if you're using rounds meant to kill people (something that expands when it goes into something, rather than designed to go through something) they make messier impacts than the clean holes seen here. Some smaller caliber rounds will glance off the windshield and not go through it. Also, there are 17 holes (including the one in the hood), all of them clean, so that would more than empty most pistol magazines - I can certainly imagine if I wanted to make that pattern on a car, I wouldn't want to use my Glock 17 (as an example of a pistol that holds 17 rounds of 9mm, which frankly I would expect to create at least a few holes that were imperfect where the bullet slid up the glass a bit) to do it - it would be much faster to empty half a magazine out of my fully automatic AK 47 and still have rounds to shoot the other targets.

 

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:17 | 5633066 Patriot Eke
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That looks like all 7.62x39mm AK damage to me.  It's a shame the guy with the camera above the shooters didn't have a rifle.  At least the two would have paid dearly for their crime, and the one police officer may still be alive.  The lesson to learn here is that disarming good people does not help safety.  I suppose the wounded police officer had to wait for another police officer's help though, for regular people cannot be trusted with weapons.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:28 | 5634137 BellyBrain
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@Uchtdorf

Doesn't look like a buckshot pattern, and the holes look to be about .30 caliber, so I'm going with AK.

Also, for anyone interested, the videos recorded SEMI-automatic fire, NOT automatic. 

The whole yelling out "Al Ciada in Yemen" makes this whole thing seem very fishy.  Yes, real guns were used, and people probably did die (unlike so many totally fake events), but the absurdity of yelling to witnesses what faction they were from is a pretty suspicious piece of evidence.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:27 | 5632282 SamAdams
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And this is the purpose of religion, to manipulate and control.  Problem, reaction, solution.  Which leads to the other scam - War.  And both are made possible by the primary scam - Money creation.

Abrahamic religions, don't they know that all are descended from Egyptian Mythos and Kings?  Hence the reason the shadow government trademark is the pyramid and eye of providence/horus.  Meanwhile, they mark their headquarters for each scam with an obelisk.  The seal of Solomon is a fable.  It is actually two pyramids superimposed.  As above, so below.  On earth as it is in heaven.  God - King.  More code that only a few understand.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:33 | 5632316 Calmyourself
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Really I dont feel manipulated but you gotta watch those damn Episcopalians, they are dangerous, eating lutefisk and shit..

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:42 | 5632347 SamAdams
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Religions are bullshit.  Each professes to be the one "true" religion, of which is god's personal favourite.  If you can't see a problem with that logic, then you know... God save you...

At any rate, interesting that the bullet deflects downward as shot from outside - in.  It would seem after penetrating the glass, the angle of the glass would cause the upper path to be longer than the lower path, thereby slightly turning the bullet trajectory downward.  Makes sense....

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:54 | 5632407 Calmyourself
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Each to his own Sam, I for one am still watching the lutefisk pushing Lutherans, that lye soaked shit shit will kill ya.. 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:10 | 5632496 SamAdams
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Strange how certain traditions evolve.  It's like eating the poisonous puffer fish.  How many people died before they finally figured it out, and why did they keep trying?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:38 | 5632663 Matt
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You can order puffer in a decent Japanese restaurant. It is a challenge food; if the chef botches the job, you die.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:23 | 5633148 StandardDeviant
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Tip well.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:42 | 5632682 Calmyourself
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Sam, the puffer fish prepared properly gives a pleasant buzz to the consumer, the chefs are licensed and have to pass tests to prepare it.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:25 | 5633457 El Vaquero
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I eat lye soaked corn all the time.  I prefer the stuff that I grew and I  soaked in lye myself.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 17:11 | 5634398 Calmyourself
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And i have eaten lutefisk, it was the only way to get into this lutheran chicks, oh never mind..

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 20:40 | 5635191 Oldwood
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We got a religious war whether we like it or not. we likely also have the beginings of a race war as well. We may believe we are too evolved to get involved in such shit but it will come looking for us none the less. Best to be prepared rather than in denial. This shit is coming to a place near you.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:18 | 5632545 Nestor Makhno
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Akhenatans bastards.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 12:27 | 5632832 SamAdams
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Ah, good to see I'm not alone.  Judaism is a child of the cult of Aten, while Christianity has origins in the cult of Ra.  This is why Christians say "amen" after their prayers and they don't even realize it.  Out of the Abrahamic religions, Judaism is closest to being the truth (when mixed with Kabbalah) while Islam and Christianity are far, far removed from reality. 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 12:44 | 5632940 general ambivalent
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What have you read about the origins and connections between these religions? I have similar ideas to yours on these connections but don't really know what to read on this.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:02 | 5633320 SamAdams
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Sigmund Freud, Ahmed Osman, Mustafa Gadalla and others.  Christians will flame away, yet  cannot provide one shred of antiquity to base their claim (hence why it is a religion of faith).  However, real evidence exists for the connection to Egypt.  And no, Josephus did not mention Jesus until long after Josephus had passed.  Ghost writing I suppose?

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 19:20 | 5639250 Absolute Truth
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Why Christians say Amen: http://www.gotquestions.org/amen.html

Sam, your sweeping generalizations are weak sauce in light of the scholarship given to the 5 minimal facts argument to support the bodily resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. Please check out Mike Licona and Gary Habermas' work in regards to this.

Cheers,

Gene Rosen

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:02 | 5633018 Lebensphilosoph
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Keep telling yourself that while peddlign your pseudo-etymologies, you pagan freak.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:36 | 5633217 noben
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"Judaism is a child of the cult of Aten, while Christianity has origins in the cult of Ra.  This is why Christians say "amen" after their prayers and they don't even realize it.  Out of the Abrahamic religions, Judaism is closest to being the truth (when mixed with Kabbalah) while Islam and Christianity are far, far removed from reality."

LOL.  Speaking of being "far, far removed from reality"... LOL.

Seriously... when will you poor manipulated and indoctrinated slobs realize that "All rulers consider religion to be... useful"?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:16 | 5633435 hot sauce technician
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Well, Egypt was frequented by Semitic visitors from Canaan and other parts from the days of the middle kingdom - around 500 years before the cult of aten sprang up. Abraham was a contemporary of Hammurabi and seemingly from Genesis (Chapter 13? 18? Look up Amraphel king of Shinar) fought against him and the federation of Babylonian kings in their war with the canaanite alliance (Salem, Hebron etc.).

Here's a visual of white Semites interacting with black Egyptians (even before the days of centrally planned multiculturalism) : http://www.lessingimages.com/viewimage.asp?i=08010320+&cr=5&cl=1

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:14 | 5634023 Absolute Truth
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“Some writers may toy with the fancy of a ‘Christ-myth,’ but they do not do so on the ground of historical evidence. The historicity of Christ is as axiomatic for an unbiased historian as the historicity of Julius Caesar. It is not historians who propagate the ‘Christ-myth’ theories.”

- F.F. Bruce (The New Testament Documents, p. 123)

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 21:51 | 5635378 Never One Roach
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It's those wild Quakers that scare the piss out of me:

 

Amish leader gets 15 years for beard attacks

 

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/08/justice/amish-beard-cutting-trial/

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:38 | 5632665 shouldvekilledthem
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And this is the purpose of religion, to manipulate and control.  Problem, reaction, solution.  Which leads to the other scam - War.  And both are made possible by the primary scam - Money creation.

 

Well said, although money is not the problem, but centralization is.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 12:41 | 5632922 Hopeless for Change
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Defend yourself? Nonsense! Just call 911 and have them arrested.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 06:37 | 5636127 Ofelas
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wait, are these not the "Freedome" fighters the Saudis and various Western governments wanted to support against Assad - whos soldiers happen to be Christians and Muslims

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 06:37 | 5636128 Ofelas
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wait, are these not the "Freedome" fighters the Saudis and various Western governments wanted to support against Assad - whos soldiers happen to be Christians and Muslims

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 06:46 | 5636135 Ofelas
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wait, are these not the "Freedome" fighters the Saudis and various Western governments wanted to support against Assad - whos soldiers happen to be Christians and Muslims

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:35 | 5632013 jbvtme
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moved

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:38 | 5632034 tarsubil
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Maybe require all cellphones to include a rifle/pistol. Just imagine if all those journalists watching and filming from the roof had pistols. Those two guys would have been riddled with bullets before reaching the front door.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:44 | 5632064 negative rates
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Imagination, the greastest nation of them all.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 12:03 | 5632766 847328_3527
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Murdering a bunch of geek cartoonists must be a new low for any religious extremists. Just as bad as those religious cultists in China who beat that little Chinese girl to death with a mop handle because she refused to give her cell phone number.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPXkmufAQyQ

 

So when they go home do they brag to their Mom,  "hey Mom, Abdul, Mohammed and me slaughtered a bunch of unarmed cartoonists today; aren't you proud of us."

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:57 | 5632133 sharkbait
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Overheard at planning session-

Terrorist 1:  we must storm the offices and kill all the infidels who are mocking the prophet

Terrorist 2:  shall we use the AK's or the AR's?

Terrorist 3:  Wait a second, aren't those things illegal?  we better rethink this!

(sounds of gunfire)

Terrorist 1: other questions?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:58 | 5632745 noben
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This senseless and brutal attack on innocent people need not have happened if ideological extremists were banned from having low tech weapons (AK-47), and had been allowed to use high-tech weapons (drones, jet planes) instead. /sarc

As much as I detest and am revolted by these types, how are the Church-going guys in fancy suits, corner offices and fancy degrees any better -- as long as they provide high-tech weapons that do worse carnage, mostly (but not entirely) on innocent victims?

And how is it that EVERY frikkin time a certain Eastern Med country is cornered into acting like a rational nation (imminent sanctions or recognition of statehood), that some sh*t breaks loose, that takes the spotlight and the heat off said nation's non-compliance to global demands?  I do not believe in such coincidences, as there are simply too many of them to be all discounted or dismissed as 'coincidences'.  Clearly there are deep-state machinations involved here, fueling and leveraging a fertile ground of opposition.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:34 | 5633818 Miffed Microbio...
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"Obviously France needs to ban automatic AK-47 rifles."

Either that or pray to Gaia that Islam evolves to the point it has a sense of humor. Personally, I think I'd keep my guns.

Miffed

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:10 | 5633983 847328_3527
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Wasn't that hostage thingy in Australia also carried out by the Religion of Peace peeples?

 

Seeng how heavily armed and with body armour these guys are I now know why the blakc cop down the block carried a .223 Sig as his backup firearm. he said that penetrates metal, but I'm not expert...I'll take his word.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:25 | 5634095 Suisse
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Speaking of Australia, this libtarded hashtag came to mind.

http://i.imgur.com/lbXyu6Z.jpg?1

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:31 | 5634157 Handful of Dust
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What's strange is one of the killers leans over and picks up a tennis shoe off the ground before getting into the mini car.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 23:21 | 5635636 Trogdor
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I would think that at SOME point one of these media-morons would be able to tell the difference between full-auto and semi-auto fire.

Totally in agreement on the ban - if they'd have ONLY banned ownership of firearms sooner ..... heeeeyyy....wait-a-minnit!

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:13 | 5631948 Mr. Magoo
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What a coincidence, the terrorist training camp at gitmo just released five Langley armed and trained terrorists

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:30 | 5632002 Latina Lover
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Good observation.  Most  americans still have not figured out that Gitmo is the perfect training ground for converting muslims into CIA assets.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:35 | 5632018 overmedicatedun...
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latina, plus one, but still you are blinded ..the witches brew of globalism, free trade open borders, is all that is needed to create monsters..the big plan is on automatic, you think too simplistic.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:23 | 5632261 Latina Lover
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Order out of Chaos.... I get it to some degree, but do not have the time to express myself fully on this blog.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:34 | 5632019 Took Red Pill
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Unfortunately, there have been so many false flag attacks and we have all been lied to so much, that we now immediately assume that's what it is. Will we ever know the truth?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:27 | 5632604 scrappy
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This site has some great analyis.

Truth exists, Lies are invented.

http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/ http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2014/11/kurd-isis-symbiosis-imp... Please THINK DEEPER.

Dare to question.

Dare to see.
Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:03 | 5633362 hot sauce technician
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Muslims in fact very much benefit from this, in case you're not thinking. The French will now be even more terrified of the moon worshippers as any action that can be interpreted as an insult to their deranged prophet or their beloved peaceful religion will be legally banned. Watch how certain districts in greater Paris, Nice, Marseilles, Toulouse will come under Sharia in the coming years and there will be no one to oppose this, as the fear of "repercurssions" will become ever more real. "Ah, no alcohol in supermarkets? Of course...<I don't want to die> No cartoons of Muhamed? Why, we'll make that illegal!" The good news is though, that as autonomy will actually become implemented for the moon worshippers, it can become a realistic option for any other community not satisfied with the crony-banker-centralized state.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:56 | 5631866 casey13
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Whenever emotional events like this happen many will jump to conclusions as to who, what, when, where and how. Our governments however have shown that they are completly untrustworthy. I will wait until we get more facts and not just the official sources before deciding what happened here.   

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:57 | 5631879 overmedicatedun...
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casey, too stupid to know you r stupid..wait all you want..the real story will never come out never, info is controlled so well boxcutters goat herders flew sophisticated planes into modern buildings

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:00 | 5631892 smackdabonurass
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I assume shill isn't your first language?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:41 | 5632678 Tall Tom
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So you are claiming that he is a passive moderator for Zerohedge as that is what SHILL means?

 

Is that an just an ad hominem slander? What EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE can you produce to back your innuendo?

 

You seem far too ignorant to be a paid troll. Yet, paid or not...

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:26 | 5631989 jimmytorpedo
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The real story? 

Don't worry, it's not a link to vegan recipes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 22:04 | 5635324 RichardParker
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Jim:

Excellent link.  Here's the gist of Adam Curtis's message.

It's relatively easy to figure things out of you're always being told lies.

It's relatively easy to figure things out of you're always being told the truth.

However, it's nearly impossible to figure things out if you're being fed a mixture of truths and lies.  That and of course, "Never let a crisis go to waste."

Assume everyone (at senior levels of gov/media at least) has been compromised.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:00 | 5631889 Latina Lover
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A most sensible approach, and exactly the opposite of what our self styled elites want us to do.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:15 | 5631956 sam i am
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I'm stocking up my wine cellar with French wines.

And yes, this attack is a response/warning to the France's support of the Palestine state.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:59 | 5633947 mkkby
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Why do religious people feel the need to defend their god's honor?  Is their god so weak he needs the help of mere humans? 

It seems to me you are insulting your god even more by assuming he can't look out for himself.  Perhaps god needs to get a carry permit.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:52 | 5634284 RafterManFMJ
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Hey, I've got a great epitaph for their tombstones:

"They Relied on the State to Protect Them. Now They Rot."

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:58 | 5631881 smackdabonurass
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Are you talking about the Talmud?

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:14 | 5631947 BlindMonkey
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I feel that way passing a cop car.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:45 | 5632692 Miffed Microbio...
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I've been looking for a " coexist" sticker made with various guns instead of religious symbols. My get rich quick scheme probably won't work in Cali. Probably should do all my marketing in Texas.

I do get a lot of wierd looks with my " molon Labe" sticker next to my " fuck this, I'm going to yoga"

Miffed

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 19:24 | 5634930 Upland27
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you can buy them from the nra website

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 23:09 | 5635604 stormsailor
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just get the "nuke the gay whales for jesus" sticker.  it has a little something for everyone.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 17:01 | 5634342 wrs1
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STOP BUYING OIL FROM THEM

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 18:04 | 5634648 Joe Tierney
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Yep - that's what the zlims said when the popes stuck a sword in their necks and ordered them to convert or die.

 

This is zlims revenge on Christendom....

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:44 | 5640107 BlindMonkey
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What comes around goes around.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:32 | 5632629 Antifaschistische
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bingo:  “We will fight these threats and we will punish the attackers.”

NO YOU WON'T, YOU WILL NOT FIGHT THE THREAT!  you have welcomed the threat into your house with open arms...and you will continue to do so.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:51 | 5632725 SAT 800
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They are exploring the possiblity of surrendering to a Religion; stand by.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:50 | 5633579 Analyse2
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Vomit comment

This kind of ugly disdain and nasty jokes come from the firm refusal of the French to join America in Irak, in 2003. Since France refused to go to Iraq, American warmongers and neo-cons made French army look like cowards – as a punishment. Surrender jokes are the left overs of the 2003 Bush hate fest against the French.

But History has proved the French were right, and that the WMD were only a dirty trick to serve as a pretext.

Nevertheless, the hate of American warmongers against France remains still there, well alive, even in ZH. This stale hate still shows through "innocent good jokes" about the “surrender monkeys” and their white flag … As for the rest, the French can be proud of their Military History which remains despite these stupid jokes the best military record in Europe.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:29 | 5634148 Antifaschistische
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So, you interpreted my comment about European Immigration practices (as well as American immigration practices) as an endorsement for the Iraqi "war".   that's a real stretch dude.....and you're replying to my comment and using "surrender monkeys" and "white flags"....words I never said.   The "fight" I'm referring to has nothing at all to do with military activity.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 19:08 | 5634886 ForTheWorld
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It's an even bigger stretch to assume that's what he was saying. It wasn't a personal attack, or even insinuating you were talking about Iraq. It was an overarching statement concerned with the vitriol spewed towards France about their choice of tactics.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 14:25 | 5633459 Greenskeeper_Carl
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Every one of those euro countries are opening up the borders to those people, allowing them to not work and suck the govt rest their whole lives while they breed like rats, and then they act surprised when something like this happens. And anyone who tries to suppress immigration is decried as a racist. Not that we don't do the same shit in the US, but thankfully they are just Mexicans.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:40 | 5632041 Ginsengbull
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We used to have an implacable enemy, actually two, Japan and Germany...

 

We had to shut them down.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:53 | 5632729 onthesquare
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Hollande wants to start to play nice with the Russians and BANG! BITCHES!

Beware the non-conformist

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:49 | 5631843 Infinite QE
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Well north of 100 million.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:57 | 5631875 smackdabonurass
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Woah now! You're not an anti-Semite are you? There's no such thing as zionism, are you off your meds? /sarc

People are so pathetic, give someone an enemy at the gates and they will rally around the ones who have been destroying them from within the gates.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:01 | 5631893 Infinite QE
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Precisely. Carry on!

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:57 | 5631876 max2205
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No different than  Ft Hood

 

Thanks Barry 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:07 | 5631915 GetZeeGold
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....or the beheading in Oklahoma.

 

Boomer Sooners!!!

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:18 | 5631963 roddy6667
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50 million might be a low number.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:27 | 5632596 frankly scarlet
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smack..., yes! remember that attack on a Russian school and all the children that were killed (secret agencies always like to target children for max effect) by Chechen rebels who were later indentified as CIA operatives. The CIA and Mossad being brothers in terror killings. 

Now we have a terrorist attack in France right after the French President says in a public speech that the sanctions against Russia should be dropped if a peace plan can be implemented in the Ukraine. So the odds of this beinga true Muslim led attack drop to around a 33% level while the % of this being a false flag is also 33% with the remainder being a CIA warning to the French President to tow the line and keep his mouth shut!!!

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 08:51 | 5631849 Au Member
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The question we should all ask after every atrocity like this should be who benefits? Quite clearly it isn't Islam

This attack will further demonise Islam and give the current aggressors more justification for attacks in the middle east against innocent muslims. so for any true Islamist it is insanity to bring about an assault aginst your brothers and sisters in this climate of fear.

 

This smells of the shock doctrine by the elements who operate above governments to pursue their hidden agenda.

 

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:03 | 5631908 Upswaller
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This position assumes muslim terrorists are intelligent and have a coherent plan.  

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:58 | 5632130 Bush Baby
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If the "Free World" had balls , every magazine , newspaper and TV station world reprint the offending cartoon every day for a year.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:11 | 5632204 Au Member
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Why is it socially acceptable to call muslims cunts but not members of other religions?

Imagine the hysterical wailing if these jokes were anti-semitic

 

 

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:37 | 5632218 Calmyourself
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Why is it acceptable to submerge a cross in piss and nobody does shit..  Jews, Muslims, Christians and  Buddhists etal are all cunts individually determined of course, you know like a rational adult..

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 15:47 | 5633909 The9thDoctor
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Why is it acceptable to submerge a cross in piss and nobody does shit.. 

It's "acceptable" and yes I put that in quotes because all a righty-tighty Christian will do is whine on message boards about it.

If one makes a graven image of Muhammed, Muslims tend to do things about it.

That's the big difference.

I find it funny that the righties want the Ten Commandments posted at every public place in the US.  The second or third commandment (depending on what mistranslation you prefer) says along the lines of (again depending on the mistranslation) of "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image".

You have no idea how many Christian's homes I have been to where they have a painting of Jesus as a white dude with long hair and a beard.  It's like a total facepalm.  At least the Muslims actually take their graven image law very seriously.

You go the Christian 501c3 and low and behold a graven image of white Jesus again with the Zodiac behind his head, or a graven image of Jesus crucified.

During the Renaissance, a bunch of ART came out depicting religious figures, which before that time was highly controversial and blasphemous.

I used to listen to a lot of "patriot" radio and these talk show hosts are always talking about the Commandments, yet on their website they have pictures of a white Jesus on it.

Doublethink and mental gymnastics are popular with this school of thought.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:53 | 5633306 ciscokid
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Cunt is a nice thing ;)

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 19:54 | 5634900 ForTheWorld
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Not if you discover the hair is too thick and full of sand. Yes, and don't ask.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:44 | 5632063 GuyJeans
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Ah but this is the essence of Islam.  Many people just dont want to understand or believe that a religion could be so hateful.  But it is right in the quran itself.  See Sura 5:33

Those cartoons are considered as "waging war" against allah and his messenger.  It is not some false flag, conspiracy or hidden agenda, it is simply  Islam.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 11:38 | 5632661 frankly scarlet
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why so stupid?  do you not have any understanding of cause and effect? Hollande just called for the ending of sanctions against Russia publicly. The CIA and Mossad get to raise the ire of American and French dumbasses like yourself against Islam while sending a not to subtle message to Hollande to keep his mouth shut and tow the line against Russia. This false flag attack was predictable as soon as Hollande spoke the words on ending sanctions if a peace plan could be worked out on Ukraine. Wake up and smell the Empire's coffee friend  or you can remain a dumbass with mouth shut we all hope!

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 13:07 | 5633043 general ambivalent
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Don't think he's stupid, but something to consider for all the people who believe Muslims are violent due to some bit of text need only read Revelations for comparison, or the story of Samson which basically is a story of suicide terrists.

Hell, just take a look at what Christianity is. A Jew was politically manipulated and then turned into myth/reality as the prefiguration of God in a new form. From G-d, which the Jews essentially controlled in their ideas and politics, to a human being who was sacrificed. Basically, in terms of geopolitics, it says: We have killed your G-d and made this act into a God for a new people.

It's essentially a psyop 2000 years before the CIA. Christianity took the Jewish book and reoriented it within their own, as the first of a half. (Not saying this to take any side.)

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 16:04 | 5633968 The9thDoctor
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If the Judeo-Christians that lick Israel's boots want to whine about Muslims' violence based on text, I take it they have never read Deuteronomy before.

God "punished" Moses by having his people wander the desert for forty years because they had too much of a conscious to not want to invade the Promised Land and slaughter its inhabitants for their milk and honey.  Their God said it was ok to invade and plunder resources but Moses and his followers weren't comfortable doing that hence they're walking circles for forty years across the arid landscape, until those cowardly generations died off for disobeying God's warmongering.

Peace is an antonym to all of these Middle Eastern religions.  Pot calling the kettle black is futile.

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 17:52 | 5634588 Buckaroo Banzai
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You don't know what you are talking about.

The violence in the Old Testament and Revelation is DESCRIPTIVE. These texts do not advocate generalized violence. Rather they describe violence that happened at specific historical events (in the Old Testament) or violence that may happen in the future at the end of the world (Revelations) that is caused by the arrival of the Antichrist.

The violence in the Koran is quite different. The Koran clearly advocates violence as a matter of dogma and policy. It is open-ended, generalized, and not just advocated but COMMANDED to all "believers".

 

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 12:12 | 5632809 noben
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...it is simply Wahhabism".  FIFY.  Otherwise, by your logic, all US warmongering  "is simply Christianity".

You need to distinguish between a subset of extremist ideologues (and their actors) and the entire religion.  Otherwise I will use your kind of Scriptural cherry-picking, and cite the "eye for an eye" thing from the OT.

I contend that such extremists exist in all 3 Abrahamic religions, but are being acted out in different ways.  E.g. The US will bomb and drone the sh*t out of a place, Israel will do likewise with its planes, tanks and troops, and Jihadists/Wahhabists will use Medieval methods.  If you try to be objective, make a tally of the number of people killed, and the Dollars used (for the weapons) to kill those people.

When you do, you too make conclude that "All wars are bankers' wars, and extremists' wars").

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 10:08 | 5632175 Calmyourself
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Pretty sure Islam needs no help demonizing itself in the worlds eyes, c'mon it calls for conversion/jizya or death quite clearly.  You do not have to be mossad/cia/dsge etc to know that do you?  Wait I better check I could be another shill sent in from frigid Minnesota to do the bidding of somebody..  I wish the check would arrive this shilling stuff is tough..

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:03 | 5631905 cnmcdee
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Do not let them into your country.. There is a reason where they come from is like it is.

They raped so many Swedish women that the women in Sweden had to start dying their hair black and wearing burkas so they would not be mistaken for 'infidel whores for raping' that these guys think they are.

Wed, 01/07/2015 - 09:21 | 5631975 mojine
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Dye your hair? I think not. Get a Glock!

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