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France Update: Explosion Near Mosque, Policeman Shot In Paris, Countrywide Manhunt For Suspects
Following yesterday's shocking murder of 12 people at the Charlie Hebdo headquarters, there has been much confusion and many rapidly moving parts in the hours that followed as authorities try to catch the two remaining killers, the 32 and 34-year old Kouachi brothers, after earlier the youngest of three French suspects turned himself in to police after, as BFM TV reported, he saw his in social media. The arrest was confirmed by an official at the Paris prosecutor's office said. Several people linked to two other suspected attackers were also in custody, the news agency AFP reported. The manhunt for the two remaining suspects goes on.
Indicative of the confusion and false information is the following report from NBC Nightly News which turned out to be fake:
BREAKING: 1 suspect in the Paris attack has been killed and the remaining 2 are in custody, senior U.S. officials say - @PeteWilliamsNBC
— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) January 7, 2015
How did the rumor spread to the very top of the food chain? From NBC: "Earlier Wednesday, two senior U.S. counterterrorism officials told NBC News that one of the suspects in the attack had been killed and that two others were in custody. However, the officials later said the information that was the basis of that account could not be confirmed."
What we do know about the two remaining suspects as the countrywide manhunt deepens is that they were said to have robbed a service station in the north of France. According to BBC, they stole food and petrol, firing shots as they struck at the roadside stop near Villers-Cotterets in the Aisne region, French media report.
According to the manager of the service station that was robbed on the RN2 road in Aisne at about 10:30 (09:30 GMT), the attackers fit the description of the two men, and were heavily armed with Kalashnikovs and rocket-propelled grenade launchers.
Earlier in the day, a policewoman was killed in a shootout in southern Paris on Thursday, triggering searches in the area as the manhunt widened, Reuters reports.
Police sources could not immediately confirm a link with the killings at Charlie Hebdo. Montrouge mayor Pierre Brossollette said the policewoman and a colleague went to the site to deal with a traffic accident. A car stopped and a man got out and shot at them before fleeing.
Witnesses said the shooter fled in a Renault Clio car. Police sources said he had been wearing a bullet-proof vest and had a handgun and assault rifle. However, one police officer at the scene told Reuters the man did not appear to fit the bill of the Charlie Hebdo shooters.
Live French television showed around a dozen police dressed in protective wear and helmets massed outside a building near the scene of the shoot-out. A second person was seriously injured in the attack in the suburb of Montrouge, after which the gunman fled.
Finally, a backlash in France may be forming when as Reuters also reported, an explosion rocked a kebab shop next to a mosque in Villefrance-sur-Saone in eastern France early on Thursday morning, a police source told Reuters.
"The window was blow out by an explosion in the night. The kebab shop was adjacent to a mosque," the source said, adding it appeared to be a criminal act. French media reports said there were no wounded.
While we follow the latest updates and ongoing developments in the most deadly militant attack on French soil in decades, we remind readers of what we observed was the common theme in the most popular Zero Hedge articles of 2014: "civil unrest." In that regard one can note that 2015 is so far nothing but a very bad, and unfortunately deadly, continuation of last year.
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Explosion Near Mosque
Awesome....it's our turn!
The work of useful idiots....nothing more....
Oh.....do you know those guys?
Manhunt underway but remember yesterday the "suspects" were arrested.
And what we all knew was coming... from a cnbc article. Also, the youngest turned himself in after seeing his name in social media? Sounds legit. /s
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102319841
"A total of seven people had been arrested since the attack, he said. Police sources said they were mostly acquaintances of the two main suspects. One source said one of the brothers had been identified by his identity card, left in the getaway car."
The suspects, get this, have forgot their identity cards in the car they attacked with (lol) and are now traveling in northern France heavily armed. Now these are some dumb-ass terrorists.
I lived in France for a couple of years, and this will do a lot to help Marie Le Pen in the next elections...
Also I never remember seeing a gun shop in France. The laws were rather draconian concerning firearms. A friend who lived in the countryside had a hunting rifle, and he told me he had to have that registered with the local authorities, who could come see it was safely stored at any time they wanted.
must....keep....pedophiles.....off....front ...page...
does anyone know when this drama will be released on netflix?
I like kebab.
Their passports fell out of the sky.
If there ain't no cell phone video, it didn't happen. Regardless, it almost certainly didn't happen the way the Propaganda Industrial Complex is reporting it.
Never waste a crisis.
10 things the media won’t be talking about after the Paris terror attack
The kid who turned himself in was in class when the hit went down, and saw he was wanted on his smartphone.
He was safer in custody, so he turned himself in.
The other guys; where did they get the training and inside info to do this thoroughly planned hit?
http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/01/07/dead-men-walking-french-police-rel...
http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/01/07/deadly-cartoon-jihad-hits-paris-sa...
AS The Murderous Terrorists Were Making Their Flawless Clean Escape They Yelped,
""We Are Love The EU And Your Forcing Concept Of Political Correctneses""...
The globalists will stop at nothing to cover their collective asses and to further their agenda... Coming to a neighborhood near you,soon........
They track everything single thing you and I do... but they lose pesky little air planes and teeny terrrrists...now where is my tiara? I'm sure I put it down somewhere, perhaps near my precious shiny chains on humanity? Yep, there it is!
Why patsies are always brothers? more prone to follie a deux, etc... I think some elites are becoming masters in psychology on our behalf...
Skyfall 00
http://www.dailypaul.com/286354/2-fbi-agents-involved-in-dzhokar-tsarnae...
does anyone know when this drama will be released on netflix?
I thought I saw something about the Olympic Games Munich Massacre of 1972 listed on there....but I didn't watch it.
this charade has all the authenticity of an american election...
Well, religion has always set itself the task of dividing people and turning them against each other, because it thrives on the "us vs them" mentality. Religion encourages superficial and unimportant differences between groups (such as what clothing to wear and what food & drink to consume) in order to attempt to drive a wedge between different communities. These efforts typically center around "believers" vs "non-believers".
Unsurprisingly, religion long has been a favored tool of the rich and powerful because of this. The 1% quickly understood that religion is an excellent tool to keep the poor & disenfranchised both distracted and divided amongst themselves. This is why I always invite people from the Middle-East and America to closely study what Karl Marx has written about the topic of religion. These two regions in the world seem to be most in need of his insights - by a large margin.
eirik, besides me, do you hate anyone? pediaphiles ? muslim murders? bad barbers? open borders to anyone is ok, until you get violence from mixing peoples with very very different world views..you are a real problem for true peace- your obstinate refusal to see what is before you-rabid dogs cannot be saved-but they can be enabled to infect and kill.
BING-FUCKIN-O DUDE!
Yeah he's one of these "Why can't we all get along", "I'm OK, You're OK" retards
Too much tolerance is NOT a good thing!
Yeah, and it's not just naive tolerance. There are a lot of people on this board who claim to be socialism hating free market lovers, but when it comes to socialists of another stripe like these oppressive islamic fundamentalist dirtbags, the goofballs come out in their defense against their own people just because they hate their own socialist federal government.
Heheh. I've noticed there exists a popular misconception here that Scandinavian men who take progressive stances have to be wiry dudes emasculated if not domesticated by "ebil feminists".
My wife calls me Big Daddy Yum Yum. I will leave it at that.
If you American conservatives experience such angst over "white" males from across the Atlantic displaying no interest in keeping "the race pure" or "protecting the fatherland", then you may want to consider that the 21st century has dawned in your backyard as well.
http://youtu.be/o1B93G6pkMs
Hey I am so like totally into the paper cuts of "micro" political correctness as described in the article linked below - being a white female with half a brain living respectfully amongst Latinos in south america, I do know if this shit continues my day will unjustly come. Simply cause I look white & female - No One Outside The Big Club can win forever in this manufactured PC farce with deadly consequences. It may have been beneficial at first but it has been twisted, like most things to destroy ordinary people while benefiting the Big Club. Watched it happening on 4 continents over 4 decades... "politically correct" reform still benefits the banksters not the average soul working for a living - just ask most of my black brethren how great their life is under Mugabe. Then look at who financed and armed Mugabe and exactly which tribes and races fought against him. F'k progressive, its for people who enjoy being a frog in warm water for many years fantizing they are in The Clubs spa... its a soup pot for cannibals.
Try reading this article without your eyes bleeding.
Here is a teaser:
The claim of microaggression is a justification for censorship and social control. To advocates, the slightest hint of insult becomes evidence of epidemic oppression in society. What you say, what you don't say, when you do not show up either to speak or stay silent ... all of these can be evidence of microaggression. That is, as long as the act or non-act is committed by a white male or by someone who disagrees with the PC theory of victimhood.
http://www.thedailybell.com/editorials/35979/Wendy-McElroy-Victims-Frant...
My MacroAggression will be something to behold if someone tells me to check my 'Microaggression'.
I have a powerful dislike for people who take the view my son shouldn't exist. Such people are typically found on the right-wing of the political spectrum.
Beyond that, live and let live and try to focus on what's important rather than on what's trivial.
If your son is a bloodthirsty little shit who believes all infidels should convert or lose their heads, then he should be terminated with extreme prejudice. Sorry if that hurts your pissant feelings.
He's barely three. If our kid were to display a penchant for burning churches or chopping off the heads of Western Christians, however, it would beg the question: Is that his Sudanese or his Viking ancestry bubbling up?
diversity + proximity = war. You can't see the forest for the trees.
one world, one religion, one nation, one corporation, one government, one order, one everything...
sorta what another Zhr said... I guess One Perfection, One Club is awesome... quick lets dump our differences the oneness sounds so cooool, if you are invited.
Oil and Water. Islam and Western Culture. They didn't mix during the Crusades and they still don't to this day. Borders, Language and Culture need to be preserved at all costs. The audacity of a group of people moving to ANOTHER country and demanding those people adhere to their customs, beliefs and religion is baffling. The only thing more baffling is self-loathing, white guilt ridden dipshits who seek to appease these people and cede their sovereignty and way of life in the name of multi-culturalism and political correctness. This will not end well.
The audacity of a group of people moving to another country.... yeah sure. Europeans never did that to american aboriginals, did they.
What comes around goes around. Ebola blankets anyone?
Eirik, you have a weak brain that is clouded with trivia jammed into your head by your keepers.
Read more. Write less.
Better yet send him off to make "peace" with them. Problem solved!
Fucking sick of dumb fucks who parrot the .gov, .media line on anything connected to "national security". Look, "them" is your own fucking government. It spies on you all day long. You are it's designated enemy. It killed 3,000 of your countrymen on 9/11, and successfully blamed a bunch of cavedwellers half the world away. It murders women collecting firewood and people celebrating weddings with gay abandon, and in your name. It keeps the world unstable and terrified as a designated policy. It invades sovereign countries and murders hundreds of thousands on the basis of fictional, media-sold lies. IT MURDERS CHILDREN, hundreds of thousands of them, with no shame.
Your enemy is your government. Grow a fucking brain and see it. 9/11 was carried out to make you think muslims are your mortal enemy. Are you really so easily manipulated?
Most of your/our government is made up of our local neighbours, as you well know only a few are in the upper criminal elite circle. Hence the problem, our neighbours are collaborators -most without any comprehension of the actual reality, they 'believe' in their role/job and enforce it generally in good faith -albeit seriously misguided good faith. How does one say wake-up when a large portion of your government is your neighbor? Its obvious why govt must become big govt... it sucks up the populace dependent on the system thereby complicit (often without informed intent- seriously few parents will actively work to make their grand kids lives hell, but few parents are fully informed most are dis-informed).
Truth in that, makes it much more unpalatable. The faceless, distant enemy is much easier to hate than your neighbour. Or your wife.
There's no innocent bystanders. But some are much more guilty than others.
From time to time I speak to Muslem young men here in California who seem to exhibit genuine intensity regarding their faith...the sadly curious thing is that when you spend some tiime exploring the theological underpinnings of their convictions, they demonstrate a surprising lack of knowledge regarding the Qur'an, the Haddiths, Islamic history or even of Muhammed himself. Mostly, their religious essence seems to revolve around slogans, traditions, ritual and mindless emotion, but very little actual substance.
But how is that different from what I see in the vast majority of people of Western faiths? I grew up Catholic, went to Catholic schools and got indoctrinated by the nuns, but really didn't learn much of anything about the religion until I went to college at a Jesuit university. Those classes opened my eyes. I became less and less of a religious person and more and more a spiritual one. I stopped getting into discussions of "my God is better than your God" and just tried to figure out how I could be a better person. Strangewalk, what you see in Muslim people in California, I see in pretty much everyone. Religion is the gang they belong to and they want to make sure that no one else gets onto their turf. They don't care about the underpinnings. They just want to be able to wave the big foam "We're Number 1" finger. And yes, it's very sad because the supposedly pious religious men and women they are following are mainly in it for the power and the money.
Religious fundamentalists, anti-science types will agree with every criticism you make about other religions but are generally incapable of seeing parallels to their own religion.
Respect can be a two way street.
Respect is being "framed" as a one way street. It cute & ever so simple to demonize, no thinking required.
A frog and a toad do not have to spend hours weeping about their differences in a law court or psychologists office...yet they share the same pond.
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That isn't just Islam....that's every other "religion".
The Muslim, the Jews, and the Christians are going to get us all killed.
Man up and take it like a Hindu.
You should book a ticket to Riyadh Saudi Arabia, visit the offices of the Religious Police, and tell them you don't beleive in God - only peace on earth - and see where that takes you. I forgot to mention their HQ is in Diera Square where they behead and amputate limbs under Sharia law (which as you may not know is the blend of religion and civil law).
Mate, you are too simple minded for your own good.
is that a valid argument? first, you need a visa for Saudi Arabia, and a reason to boot, like business. second, if a Westerner would do that, they would pack him on a return plane
things change if you first convert to Islam and then recant and do your stunt. I would not advice such course
It's amazing the attack on ALL religion after numerous continued cowardly attacks by just one of the main three. I don't see Jewish or Christian terrorists killing innocent, soft targets after offenses made against their faiths or beliefs! And there have been many such offenses!!
Faith, for many poor, has been an excellent source of hope in an unjust world that we live in! The rich have nohing to do with it Eirik! And people do not need an excuse to turn people against each other. They would do so even if religious differences were not a factor. They wouldfind something else to fight and kill over!!
"authenticity of an american election" yes especially one held in the House of Representatives, sham to keep the pork rollin, rollin, rollin.. Cripes these atheists are more concerned with religion than any church lady I ever met.. Governments are the real killers numbnuts not religion over the last 500 years do the numbers..
So this was a Mossad op, too?
Dig deeper, my friend.
OK, Counterpunch.
It's a Comic Conspiracy!
https://twitter.com/jeffjarvis/status/552938768714694656
http://www.superputin.ru/englishski/index.html
Either that, or it is revenge for global cooling!
http://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/01/no_author/the-giant-clam-reveals-the-...
The clam isn't talking...
Charlie Hebdo - why is there no blood when the policeman was shot? Why are questions not being asked as to the root causes and motives behind the attack? http://ian56.blogspot.com/2015/01/charlie-hebdo-why-is-there-no-blood.html
Here is the policeman video in slow motion. Does the gunman miss or hit his target? Hard for me to tell.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=44d_1420688937
Here is why we need to question what we "see".
You will be amazed...watch.
Digital Deception - Can You Trust What You See?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbvgOFxp-hk
Round up the usual suspects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casablanca_%28film%29
"Give me the mother fucking keys you cocksucker mother fucker!!! Aarrggahhhhh!!!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30wtREXoVjo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Usual_Suspects
moved
Only the crooks and the state have guns in Europe,
That why we have no crime and really low taxes...
or something...
@ SumTing Wong
You are quite correct but it wasn't always that way. The laws just kept getting tighter and tighter over the last few decades. They, effectively, disarmed the real French so the invaders can do their evil without resistance, ditto England and the rest of Europe. Even Switzerland over the last 20 years has tightened its gun laws, initially due to pressure brought by US due to Sarah Brady. Imagine.
I think it behooves each and every single one of us, AND OUR FAMILIES, to join the NRA.
http://www.nrahq.org/
Because the Bolsheviks are prepared to do their WORST and believe me, that is TOO TERRIBLE to contemplate.
Cough, cough the GOA and JPFO probably do you more good than the quasi collabs at the nra
+1 on GOA. If GOA had NRA's membership numbers and $$, a whole shitload of bullshit gun laws could be rolled back.
The firearm laws in France are horrible. It is one of the reasons why I won't buy a home there. Only the criminals and police have guns in France. I'd like to see these guys try this shit in Dallas.
Umm, they tried it in Waco, just down the road. Quite successfully, too. Not much use being well armed if you just sit there and watch the action on TV.
draconian firearms laws?
The right to keep and bear catapults, slings and maces.
"forgot their identity cards in the car they attacked with (lol)"
Or it could mean the evidence was planted...
Makes me think of the alleged perpetrator of the attack at the Jewish museum in Brussels :
"He was arrested in Marseille on Friday after arriving on an overnight coach from Brussels.A Kalachnikov automatic rifle with Islamist markings, a revolver and bullets similar to those used in the shootings were found in his luggage during a routine drugs check by customs officers. They also found press cuttings on the museum murders and a film for a miniature camera in which he appears to admit the attack."
( source : http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brussels-jewish-museum-at... , bold text marking is mine )
==>?!?!?
I'm thinking the brothers are long buried under an unexploded 230mm shell somewhere around Verdun. They served their purpose.
Well I know if I were going to do an armed attack on a building I would be sure to bring my ID and keep it safely in my get away vehicle. What if I need to stop for beer and they card me?
Sounds legit.
Works for me.
A fckn kebab shop has also been attacked......a terrorist training center I'm sure....
We all know people like these guys.....dumb fcks is generally what they're called....
Any truth to the rumor that the kebab shop was a mossad listening post relaying info straight to Diego Garcia?
Or did I mix my conspiracy theories?
I bet you're the sort of asshole who knows Israel wasn't involved in 9/11 because you simply refuse, ab initio, to consider the evidence. But you still know it's just 'anti-Semitic', you know, like "the truth."
You're one lazy cunt of a troll, Dave.
Kindly suck a bag of dicks at our earliest convenience.
Actually, I know nobody like these guys.
"The news that the younger Kouachi was sentenced in 2008 to three years in prison (with 18 months suspended) for his involvement in a network sending volunteer fighters to Iraq to fight alongside al-Qaida extremists there and was again detained after being implicated in a plot to break a jailed militant leader out of jail two years later will raise questions over why French security authorities had not been more closely monitoring his movements."
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/08/paris-attack-suspect-cherif...
BREAKING: 1 suspect in the Paris attack has been killed and the remaining 2 are in custody, senior U.S. officials say - @PeteWilliamsNBC
— NBC Nightly News (@NBCNightlyNews) January 7, 2015
Why do we even bother to watch the MSM news anymore? ZH is all we need!
"We"? I haven't watched the MSM news in over a decade. Glad you finally figured it out. Welcome aboard.
Well, actually I like to watch it sometimes to see what they are trying to feed us and to read between the lines. But it often gets too infuriating!
The dead suspect, is he still on the run?
Will they bury him according to Islamic sharia?
When is zero snark sixty getting released?
TV and Hollywood are for idiots who support the lies of the MSM and media like dumb sheep.
Happy Multiculturalism!!
Paris Shooting is Another Mossad, French Securitiy Services Operation;
http://winteractionables.com/?p=17674
Each side upping the ante toward a civil war only benefits the NWO. The real work is to unravel this attack to its origins. Preferably while the three suspects are still alive.
The arrest was confirmed by an official at the Paris prosecutor's office said.
What arrest? That guy was a regular student and he proved to be in school at that time. This just confirms that all identities of the attackers are fake! And the lost ID of one attacker in the car... remember 9/11 and the lost passport of the aircraft highjacker in the ruins of WTC.. what a joke.
No, he was yesrerdays lottery winner.
The two guys probably did it... The government let them do it and made sure identities would be known within 24 hours. Same has happened here in the Netherlands. Islam still sucks though.
Link pls?
His friends and school mates made a campaign confirming he was with them in that morning https://twitter.com/hashtag/MouradHamydInnocent
Just thinking about a murderer going to let himself arrest at a police station in the north of France (several ours to get there) is just CRAZY!
Here it is translated: https://storify.com/reportedly/mouradhamydinnocent
Dude turned himself in !! do you suppose if they still used the guillotine; which was quite humane, by the way; he would have turned himself in; what's he going to get now ? lifetime free cable TV and Moslem Sensitivity Therapy. Sometimes you deserve what you get as a society when you start playing make believe.
"Predictably, Islamofascism peddlers are already having a field day/week/month/year. For simpletons/trolls/hordes exhibiting an IQ worthy of sub-zoology, when in doubt, demonize Islam. It's so convenient to forget that untold millions from Pakistan's tribal areas to street markets across Iraq continue to feel pain devastating their hearts and lives as they are expendable victims of the jihadi mindset - or "Kalashnikov culture", as it is known in Pakistan - profiting the "West", directly or indirectly, for decades now. Think ritual droning of Pakistani, Yemeni, Syrian, Iraqi or Libyan civilians. Think Sadr City witnessing carnages over 10 times worse than Paris.
What French President Francois Hollande defined as "an act of exceptional barbarism" - and it is - does not apply when the "West", France in the front line, from King Sarko to General Hollande himself, weaponizes, trains and remote-controls assorted mercenaries/beheaders from Libya to Syria. Oh yeah; killing civilians in Tripoli or Aleppo is perfectly all right. But don't do that in Paris."
- http://www.atimes.com/atimes/World/WOR-01-080115.html
Those two brothers have only a few hours left alive.....
I'm in the pool for 2 1/2 hours....anything you could do to delay.....would be greatly appreciated.
Hey brother, the same could be said of you.
Or indeed anyone.......
The probability of the event occurring being the key difference.....
any odds...
Had it been Texas, where even grandmothers are packing heat, I suspect the body count ratio would be different.
These events will be used to impose a national security state where everyone is monitored and personal freedoms severely curtailed - never let a crisis go to waste.
How many did France kill in its illegal invasion of Libya? How many are dying today in the failed state of Libya?
Not "will", "is"
European mainstream media are all over it, especially the British,
"do the security services need more powers" - Andrew Neil, BBC, about 5 minutes ago.....
What they need to be asking is, why are we taking in so many people from shithole countries when we dont have jobs the the people already here, and whos dumb idea was it to get rid of all the internal borders?
Multiculturalism! It's what's for breakfast in white countries.
'Used-to-be' white countries. France has the largest Muslim population in Western Europe.
When once the guillotine stood, Place de la Concord will perhaps be the spot for beheadings and stonings. My raghead friends all tell me there are plenty of sorcerers in Paris. . .
I was just telling the wife Africa would be sweet without all the Africans, lets trade them Minnesota for Botswana. I'll bring civilization and they can bring well whatever they bring here.. Multiculti it should go both ways..
Yes. turn the screw a little tighter. "Rights of Englishmen" already gone; completely.
Libya isn't making the news these days. Nobody in the lamestream media is willing to admit and investigate what is going on in the wake of that marvelous Western intervention in Libya. We just hear of many new refugee arrivals and boatloads of illegal human traffickings into Europe, I wonder where alot of them come from? Hmmm let me think...
Probably Sweden. These motherfuckers can't keep on their side of the border.
Let the 18 th and 19 th century Arab slave trade start bringing the brothers out of Africa again. Then you'll see some shit show bro.
You think Al and Action Jackson will pick up guns to defend the brotha's from the Arabs.. Nope, too busy cashing extortion checks.
la question?
So, French colonialism coming back to haunt the Fith Republic? And I thought Charles de Gaulle died with the Fourth Republic... how wrong I am. Hollande Sauce is sending the French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle and support vessels to the Gulf - not of Mexico.
May I suggest two books for the dear Hedge readers. First, is a little story about Christian de Castries and the come-upins' he got in a place called Dien Bien Phu in the First Indochina War - please read Hell In A Very Small Place: The Siege Of Dien Bien Phu by Bernard Fall.
Second, Alistair Horne's book, A Savage War of Peace: Algeria 1954-1962. Pay particular attention to General Paul Aussaresses.
The world has become a very small place via air travel and the internet... remember Dien Bien Phu... so what is la question? It is the French technical term for torture... the world has become hell in a very small place.
do you know any history ? De Gaulle CREATED the Fifth Republic and solved the Algerian War by betraying the pieds noirs.
You are correct de Gaulle was the end of the Forth and the beginning of the Fifth. Besides, was not France in a constitutional crisis? And what about the lack of American support for France in Algeria? I would follow the money in regards to France/Algeria/US.
I suggest we get those terrorist guys and feed them to pigs starved for a week. They we makes sausages out of the pigs and we invite AL-Baghdadi to the barbecue. Roasted pork sausages (Fed with Jihadists) with some nice wine. We love gastronomy in France.
The French troops from Dien Bien Phu ended up in Algeria - which is where Marine Le Pen's father served......
"In 1957, he became the General Secretary of the National Front of Combatants, a veterans' organization, as well as the first French politician to nominate a Muslim candidate, Ahmed Djebbour, an Algerian, elected in 1957 as deputy of Paris."
Dien Bien Phu..build a fire base in a valley, at least the 101st military used the high ground, except khesan..but they were us marines, not the brightest group. ..brings back things about war young men should know:
generals rarely die, so they rarely think too much about sending young men into stupid places, S Butler USMC his book should be given to new recruits.
I can't dispute the facts. And I freely admit that some Marines aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. However, not all are stupid. The saving grace is that all will fight, and ferociously. The main difference between the Vietnam War and now is that now we have an all volunteer military. The people there, want to be there.
@overmedicatdun
The French lost Dien Bien Phu because they were screwed by NATO (ie. the US).
In 1954 they had to specialize in jets while others in Europe had to specialize in bombers.
And when it came to fight Communism (the Viet Cong, massively helped by Soviet Union and China's troops) ... guess what... the US refused the NATO to get involved.
They had to fight the war without bombers, as in 1954 they had very few of these kind of planes.
And guess what... who had to fight the Vietnam war after the US sabotaged French effort ?
Besides that, in 1954, when the French were finally defeated in Dien Bien Phu, they had 50,000 troops in all VietNam, and their biggest planes were Douglas A26 and C47’s, and Vought Corsairs.
When the US was defeated by the same enemy some twenty years later, they had 550,000 troops, B52’s, napalm, missiles, big helicopters, the works …
You are completely wrong. This is nothing more than the re-manifestation of the Muslim conquests that were finally stopped in 1683
That's hyperbole.
The Muslim conquests up to the Siege of Vienna were not carried out by starved immigrants become half-assed terrorists. They were carried out by large, well-equipped armies supported by a civilization nearly as wealthy as the European. So, until the Muslim world's combined GDP gets close to that of the West, such that it could mount an actual military challenge, talk about an impending Muslim invasion comparable to what happened in the past is hyperbole.
What is the constant murder of Palestinians on their own ancestral lands by European Jews a manifestation of, though?
Oh, and DBP was against the Vietnamese...from what I hear they are not Islamists.
France bombed housewives and children in Libya with their nifty NATO combat planes; maybe GOD is on the job for once.
Mosques are just terrorist training facilities.
How soon will our government make an official response condemning the cartoons and the paper?
Prolly never, were at code level fire red, which is one level above the max, won't even enter thier minds. But they wiil promise to get revenge on the group responsible for this Trade Everything RR or event.
The White House commented last night on inciting the muslim (terrorist) with the cartoons.
Too bad we could not have sent some sheriffs to arrest those dastardly cartoonists..
Noted. Thank you. I hadn't entirely caught up with the news.
Did they leave an Id at the gas station?
Yes one of them did. (According to Sputnik) UPDATE: ID card of suspect Said Kouachi found in car left by 2 suspects #CharlieHebdo http://bit.ly/1xEakzK pic.twitter.com/UOIMmcdAKo
Funny that terrorists carry their ID on them and leave it in the getaway car for the whole world to find.
Exactly like that pristine Passport was found in the rubble of the World Trade Center the day after 9/11.
It further turns out that these 'crazy muslims' were already known to Intelligence Services, but it seems they didn't monitor them closely enough. They were probably too busy spying on the rest of us.
Nothing to see here Sheeple, move on...
I hope it wasn't a stolen ID and that they ask questions first rather than shooting first.
Surely you are not suggesting someone would plan a false flag and use a stolen id card to blame it on someone else? /sarc
I do find my mind turning when I hear this stuff in the media...
Exhibit A: December 2nd 2014 -French parliament votes to recognize Palestinian state http://rt.com/news/210823-france-palestine-parliament-vote/
Exhibit B: January 5th 2015 - Russia sanctions 'must be lifted now' - Hollande http://rt.com/news/219831-hollande-russia-lift-sanctions/
Hollande doesn't seem to be playing the Rothschild NWO political playbook.
French elections are in 2 months, where there was a chance Marine Le Pen's Far 'Right' Front National could come to power on a wave of Anti EU Nationalism, and Anti-Islam/muslim sentiment. Those odds just increased substantially IMO.
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." Franklin D Roosevelt
Maybe my tin foil hat is on to tight...
Order out of Chaos, do what we say or get trrrorizzed.
^^^^ what he said above. The end
They need their ID cards to cash their welfare checks.
Not sure, but they must have gotten a deep fuel discount thanks to the falling crude price. It only means more mileage for each euro so a longer search by my estimations.
Then they turned the car around and drove back to Paris? This is turning bizarre....
They are a gay, incestuous, Micky and Mallory on a crime spree. High times. They will end up driving off together in a Winnebago.
Pumpkin and Honey Bunny hold up a Diner.
I loved both movies, own them. Maybe this movie will be good too?
Brains all over the place sounds like a happy ending to me. Think of it as mercy.
No, but they did leave their superegos. Their Id is definitely along for the ride-- good times.
Paris Attack Smacks Of False Flag
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=995
False Flag, Not likely in France.
Now a white flag would be another story...
All this ugly disdain and nasty jokes come from the firm refusal of the French to join America in Irak, in 2003.
Since France refused to go to Iraq, American warmongers and neo-cons made French army look like cowards – as a punishment.
But History has proved the French were right, and that the WMD were only a dirty trick to serve as a pretext.
Nevertheless, the hate of American warmongers against France remains still there, well alive, even in ZH.
This stale hate still shows through "innocent good jokes" about the “surrender monkeys” and their white flags …
As for the rest, the French can be proud of their Military History:
According to the British historian Niall Ferguson, since 387 BC, France has fought 168 major wars against such badasses as the Roman Empire, the British Army and the Turkish forces. Their track record isn't too shabby, either: They've won 109, lost 49 and drawn 10 times.
This makes France the most successful military power in European history - in terms of number of fought and won …
The French have succeeded to conquer and guard the largest country in Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_France
Great History lesson.
I have one question, where do you place WWII, win or loss column?
Never mind.. Vive la France.
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/victories.html
@Gene8696
Both my dear ...
* Apart from the puppet government based in Vichy, there was a free government based in London under the authority of General De Gaulle.
* In all occupied countries by the Nazis, some citizens, driven by nationalism, ethnic hatred, anti-communism, anti-Semitism, or opportunism knowingly engaged in collaboration. But the LVF (Legion Volontaire Francaise), the French volunteer army that the Germans tried to organize, was a gigantic flop: Only a division was supplied to the German army, whereas the Netherlands (with a 4 times less important population) supplied 2 divisions.
* In all occupied countries by the Nazis, the Jews have been quite completely exterminated during WW2. In occupied France, “only” (if we may say) 25% of the Jews have been deported. Most of the Jews succeeded to survive thanks to the active and passive resistance of a large part of the population. This explains why France is now, by far, the country in Europe with the largest Jewish community (more than 600 000).
* During the Italian campaign of 1943, 130,000 Free French soldiers fought on the Allied side (under General Juin)
* By the time of the Normandy invasion, Free French forces numbered approximately half a million regulars and more than 100,000 French Forces of the Interior (FFI).
The FFI in Normandy and the Île-de-France region surrounding Paris began to harass German forces intensively, cutting roads and railways, setting ambushes and fighting conventional battles alongside their allies. This caused the death, arrest, or deportation of 90,000 resistance fighters - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Resistance
General Eisenhower estimated the value of the Résistance to have been equal to ten to fifteen divisions at the time of the landings - http://voices.yahoo.com/the-french-resistance-world-war-ii-400073.html
* The Free French 2nd Armored Division, under General Philippe Leclerc, landed in Normandy, and, in the waning days of summer 1944, led the drive toward Paris, and later Strasbourg.
* 3500 French pilots served in the RAF - http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Air_Force
and others in Russia in Normandie-Niemen Squadron - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normandie-Niemen
* 6 Free French divisions (230 000 men) did contribute hugely to the Provence landing - under command of General De Lattre de Tassigny (Operation Dragoon). They held their ground in Alsace during the battle of the Bulge, disobeying Eisenhower’s orders to retreat.
* In 1945 the Allied Forces on the west front consisted in: US: 45 divisions - UK: 12 divisions - France: 9 divisions - Poland: 1 division. In total, not a lot compared with the Soviet forces on the east side, the main winners of WWII.
It has now been officially revealed (to the surprise of virtually no one) that at least two of the suspects in the Charlie Hebdo shootings are French-born individuals who were recruited for and trained in Syria in order to fight against the secular government of Bashar al-Assad.
French police revealed today that the three suspects, Said Kouachi, 34, and Cherif Kouachi, 32, and Hamyd Mourad, 18, were the target of a massive manhunt. Said and Cherif are both French nationals while Hamyd’s nationality is not known at this time.
Cherif Kouachi was no stranger to French law enforcement. He was sentenced to three years imprisonment with 18 months suspended for terrorism charges in 2008 when was convicted of “criminal association with a terrorist enterprise.”
Apparently, the group to which Cherif was affiliated, known as the 19th Arrondissement Network (named for the neighborhood it was based out of), was involved in recruiting French Muslims to fight for al-Qaeda in Iraq. As is typical in Western-backed terrorist operations, the group preyed on poor, disenchanted, struggling, and working-class young men.
After procuring the necessary manpower, the group would then organize for weapons training and provide the necessary travel arrangements.
Although convicted in 2008, police had arrested Charif in 2005, just days before he planned to travel to Syria.
Charif fits the profile of a target for terrorist recruits. He was Muslim, had left school, and was working a dead-end job as a pizza delivery man. He was decidedly lower working class.
The narrative now being constructed is that a gullible young man then fell under the spell of charismatic “street preacher” known as Farid Benyettou, who trolled the East Side of Paris. It is implied that Beneyettou, who was also convicted on terrorism charges, played a role in setting up Charif with the terrorist organization he eventually joined and his subsequent travels to Syria to slaughter innocent people ultimately for the benefit of the geopolitical goals of NATO, France, and the United States.
It should be noted that, during the course of the trial, Beneyettou was responsible for recruitment only. Out of the entire membership of his network, he was the only one not slated to travel to Iraq.
Also noteworthy is the fact that, in 2005, it was revealed that some members of the 19th Arrondissement Network had affiliations with the ad-Da’wa mosque,[1] one of the largest mosques in Paris.
Of course, if the attackers were indeed members of one of the myriad terrorist groups documented to be under the direction and control of Western powers, France itself is to be implicated in the cause and execution of the attacks. As Tony Cartalucci of Land Destroyer Report writes in his own article, “France Armed Terrorists That Struck Paris,”
In his article “Timeline: Where’d Paris Shooters Get Their Weapons?” Cartalucci also provides a timeline of French assistance, aid, and arms provided to Islamic terrorists since 2011. He writes,
With all this in mind, the question then becomes whether or not these attacks are simply “blowback” – the famed but virtually always inaccurate whitewash term that is thrown about after any alleged terror attack that occurs in the Western world – or entirely controlled by the very Western governments, agencies, and corporations that then pretend to be the victims?
Given the fact that ISIS, al-Qaeda, and related organizations are entirely controlled by Western intelligence agencies, one must question the real reason that Charlie Hebdo was attacked and the true command-and-control structure that exists behind the attackers.
...and?
there is no And? ......FACTS ARE FACTS (WEHAT YOU CHOOSE TO DO WITH IT IT IS YOUR PROBLEM
but this reek "false flag"(anytime you hear THE SUSPECT WAS WELL KNOWN BY THE SECRET POLICE= MANIPULATION)
Anything else?