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Obama's Latest Handout: Two Years Of Free Community College For Everyone

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With the number of college graduates working minimum wage jobs nearly 71% higher than it was a decade ago, and the average graduate leaving college with $29,400 in debt (crushing their hopes of leveraging up to buy that American Dream-creating house), President Obama has unleashed a double whammy of ideas in the last few days. Reducing mortgage insurance and cutting down-payment restrictions for FHA loans (i.e. providing huge leverage to segments of society to repeat the mistakes of the last housing bubble); and now, as The LA Times reports, President Obama says he is rolling out a plan to make two years of community college free, or nearly so, to every student across the country. Because it's "fair"?

 

As The LA Times reports,

President Obama says he is rolling out a plan to make two years of community college free, or nearly so, to students across the country.

 

“What I’d like to do is to see the first two years of community college free for everybody who is willing to work for it,” Obama said in a video filmed on Air Force One and posted on Facebook on Thursday.

 

Obama’s announcement comes ahead of a visit Friday to a community college and technical center in Knoxville, Tenn., as part of a trip designed to preview his policy plans for 2015.

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Just what this nation needs... more higher-educated, taxpayer-funded citizens demanding higher-paid jobs ("well we have a community college education now") when all the jobs being 'created' are waiters, bar staff, and shale oil workers (oh wait... not them)

Unintended Consequence #546278283: Community College fees soar for non-qualifying-for-handout Americans...

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Moar Free Stuff...

 

Via President Obama's Facebook page...

“Put simply, what I’d like to do is to see the first two years of community college free for anybody who’s willing to work for it,” he said. “It’s something we can accomplish, and it’s something that will train our workforce so that we can compete with anyone in the world.”

 

Obama said a world-class education starts with children, but that adults need training, too. “It’s not just for kids, we also have to make sure that everybody has the opportunity to constantly train themselves for better jobs, better wages, better benefits.”

The America’s College Promise proposal could save eligible students $3,800 a year in tuition, the White House said.

According to the White House, here are the requirements for the program:

What students have to do: Students must attend community college at least half-time, maintain a 2.5 GPA, and make steady progress toward completing their program.

 

What community colleges have to do: Community colleges will be expected to offer programs that are either 1) academic programs that fully transfer credits to local public four-year colleges and universities, or 2) occupational training programs with high graduation rates and lead to in-demand degrees and certificates. Community colleges must also adopt promising and evidence-based institutional reforms to improve student outcomes.

 

What the federal government has to do: Federal funding will cover three-quarters of the average cost of community college. Participating states will be expected to contribute the remaining funds necessary to eliminate the tuition for eligible students.

The president is expected to make a formal announcement Friday

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Should be a Great State of The Union

 

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Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:04 | 5639646 stant
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MIT needs trade school

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:06 | 5639661 Four chan
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all da chillins gonna geet choom smokin 101, thanks barry.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:09 | 5639663 Jeff the Terrible
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Tuition just went up two years worth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI6tBwVjyOY

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:08 | 5639674 Fedaykinx
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maybe they'll be able to read at a high school level by the time they're done with the two free years.

hah who am i kidding.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:14 | 5639686 TeamDepends
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Will there be an older black lady, two smokin' hot shiksas, a Pakistani nerd, Chevy Chase, and a wise-cracking talk show parody host in my class? 'Cuz that would be awesome!

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:16 | 5639690 Manthong
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And.. if you are an illegal alien invader, Obama will waive the requirements for prior education or to speak English, pay you a living wage, give you free medical care and an EBT card  to attend.

 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:22 | 5639733 zaphod
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Did congress approve this spending?

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:24 | 5639763 Buckaroo Banzai
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"Community college is just high school with ashtrays." -- Adam Carrolla

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:29 | 5639782 Ignatius
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Only because they deliberately fucked up HS standards.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:30 | 5639796 knukles
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The Teacher Full Employment, Teacher's Union and Democratic Vote Act of 2015

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:33 | 5639812 Ignatius
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I read more books and learned more in 1st qtr of university than in all of HS.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:37 | 5639837 weburke
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my freinds wife attended one and she left a book in a class and went back and it was now a math class, and the teacher was saying "again class, what is ten percent of 100", and there were no answers ! 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:41 | 5639850 Ignatius
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I say 8th grade, tops, in publc school with supplemental home education, then on to college course work.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:52 | 5639898 tmosley
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Fuck yeah, two more years of deferrment.  Loan will have inflated to nearly nothing by then.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:06 | 5639963 LasVegasDave
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fuck you mosley

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:14 | 5639997 SoilMyselfRotten
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The colleges make out great but when the kids graduate there still won't be a job waiting for them

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 23:10 | 5640206 tmosley
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No worries, they'll be dead by then anyways.  You know, death panels and all.

Confused? Just read the Affordable Care Act. Penalty for not having coverage goes from $100 million a year in 2017 to summary execution in 2018.  That is unless you join the Obama Youth or any other eligible state mandated re-education program.

Fri, 01/09/2015 - 00:24 | 5640414 SilverIsKing
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My mother's sister's aunt's niece makes $62.52 an hour turning tricks at the local community college.

Http://www.imanobamamama.com

Fri, 01/09/2015 - 01:44 | 5640527 Telemakhos
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Think of it another way: it removes two years' worth of the young demographic from the workforce or the seeking-employment statistics without putting them on welfare or unemployment.  If this passes and lots of kids take the offer and don't get counted as seeking employment, then the BLS numbers might even look better by the end of the incumbent's presidency.

Don't think of it as a way to improve America in the long term, but to improve the numbers on the spreadsheet in the short term.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:27 | 5640045 tmosley
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You seem emotionally distressed at my presence.

Which is funny because I don't even remember who you are.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 23:02 | 5640174 Deacon Frost
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I'm with you tmosley, you've been here a long time, as myself, your OK with the long timers at ZH.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:57 | 5639920 TeamDepends
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My friends' step-moms' hot roommates' step-moms' sister makes $120000 per hour on her laptop. Now, because of this visionary legislation by our Leader, she will be your Computer Science professor. See more @ snopes .com.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:06 | 5639956 PT
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She saw the behaviour.  She did not see the motivation.  Starting from high school, I noticed a lot of hostility towards students who answered questions, even if the teacher asked that specific student to provide an answer.

I guess I wasn't there so I can't speak for that particular incident, but I have discovered that while teachers like to ask questions - the old sales trick of if they say it then it must be true - students simply don't want to answer any questions.  It's nothing to do with not knowing, and everything to do with hiding in the herd.  I've always been an outlier but even I went through a stage where I wouldn't volunteer answers without being specifically asked but in the end I used to answer questions real quick just because I was sick of waiting and wanted to hurry up and get on with the lesson. 

Then again it was a maths question.  A lot of people tend to panic at the slightest suggestion that numbers even exist.  (Can't say I blame them any more, they appear to be richer than me so who's the real loser?)

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:54 | 5640148 Hulk
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True dat. After two years of comunity college (math major) I realized that most of that could have been done in high school...

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:25 | 5639765 CaptainObvious
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Congress?  We don't need no steenkin' Congress!

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:32 | 5639795 old naughty
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But, another "pool" gets re-filled, no?

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:27 | 5639769 Ignatius
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They gave the banks trillions and the banks ain't givin' it back.

Fuck it, take the money and get some cheap education, kids.

Fri, 01/09/2015 - 02:05 | 5640567 Otrader
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We're close to full retard. Last spending bill we gave a blank checkbook to cover wall st. losses to the tune of...infinity $$$$.   So, what the hell....let's end it NOW!

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:22 | 5639746 NoDebt
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He didn't say that attending college was a basic human right.  How'd he miss that opportunity?

Why not also promise them a million dollars when they complete college?  Or a guaranteed government job for life?  Also basic human rights, obviously.

 

Fri, 01/09/2015 - 02:32 | 5640589 Son of Loki
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"Attending college is a fundamental right for all mankind, joining those important basic rights such as Free cell phones, free houses, free health care, free food and free handing out free beatings to Paki store owners."

 

"Dis be Merika!"

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:23 | 5639751 TeamDepends
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Nor is having head lice a problem. Or having a face tattoo which reads "Keel Los Gringos".

Fri, 01/09/2015 - 00:43 | 5640435 Down to Earth T...
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and a trnslator of course ! for free 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 23:03 | 5640187 Blano
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Sounds like the basis for a new sitcom or reality show.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 23:13 | 5640215 OldPhart
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Community College has devolved to remedial High School.  From what I've seen, the first two years are spent learning how to read, write, speak and do basic math.  The next five are getting through unavailable classes to earn an Associates.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:20 | 5639712 Lore
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@ JEFF: Of what possible relevance is that stupid VEGAN DIET VIDEO to the topic at hand? How do you justify posting it over and over?

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:28 | 5639778 CaptainObvious
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Well how else is he supposed to drive traffic to his youtube page?  You don't expect him to pony up his own money to promote it, do ya?

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:32 | 5639804 diesheepledie
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Because Jeff wants someone to fucking XSS attack him and send photoshopped gay porn images of him to all his co-workers from his work email?

Fri, 01/09/2015 - 02:03 | 5640563 Otrader
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Jeff doesn't eat meat, but sure likes the bone! lol

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:26 | 5639774 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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Well, one thing is for sure, those 2 years free are going to be very expensive 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:17 | 5639999 PT
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More expensive than two years worth of student loans that will never be repaid?  On the plus side, the banksters will have less loan paper with which to extract bonuses, rehypothecate and / or sell to your pension fund.  The ratings agencies will have less paper that "needs" to be rated Triple A.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:24 | 5639738 nuke ISIS now
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This fucking moron is hell bent on destroying the U.S....wht the fuck, the US is broke, and this mother fucker wants to spend more money..for communty college.

While a noble idea, i believe its pat of the plan to deplete as much of our resources as possible...fucking communist fuck...still waiting for the false flag that delivers Barrry into a FDR moment

 

"We community colleged some folks"

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:36 | 5639793 Usurious
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if the American people do not borrow, the Gov will borrow on their behalf..........

 

the debt must increase..........credit must grow.......its the way debt-money works.........

Fri, 01/09/2015 - 01:59 | 5640558 Otrader
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When the bankers conquered USA in 1913 without a single shot fired, the past 100 years is just collateral damage.  Get used to it debt serfs!!

Fri, 01/09/2015 - 02:35 | 5640594 Son of Loki
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The path towards currency debasement is loaded with debt. This in turn leads to very servere inflation which we have seen time and time again esp in South America and SE Asia. The dollar is the strongest/cleanest in the bunch so devaluation will come slow at first the accelerate until even the thickest Dolt sees hyperinflation as it smacks him between his eyes.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 23:22 | 5640240 rwe2late
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 The US would not be broke

if DHS, the Pentagon, and TBTF trillion dollar handouts were cut.

Unfortunately, since Obama et al will not be making those cuts,

the much more attractive idea of providing free college education

for all those interested will not be a realistic option.

 

 

Fri, 01/09/2015 - 07:46 | 5640771 Your guess is a...
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THANKS OBAMA!

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:08 | 5639673 junction
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I want to go to Harvard Law School's community college division.  If Harvard can let Obama in with his crummy LSAT scores, Harvard should give a chance to other students who don't have the backing of the New World Order.  Like myself and you.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 23:22 | 5640238 OldPhart
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Caucasians need not apply to HISS (Harvard Is Special Scholarship).

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 23:31 | 5640271 insanelysane
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They actually have one.  Google Harvard Extension School.  A few weeks ago one of their students fell out of the ceiling in a ladies bathroom in Logan Airport.  He was naked, ran out of bathroom, and jumped a senior citizen.  Tried to choke guy to death with his cane.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2014/12/judge_ma...

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:38 | 5639836 rubiconsolutions
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“Put simply, what I’d like to do is to see the first two years of community college free for anybody who’s willing to work for it,”

 

So then it isn't free is it? It's like saying - "Put simply, I'd like to put a Ferrari in everyone's garage if they are willing to pay for it" or "Put simply, I'd like to put everyone in their own single family dwelling if they are willing to work for it"

Uh, Mr. President: despite what you have been inculcated into believing there is no free lunch. Someone has to pay for it.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:39 | 5640091 cynicalskeptic
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More of a 'delaying' approach for all those people who couldn't get jobs anyway.   Half will take 4 years to make it through instead of the two it should take.

A subsidy for the education industry as well.

 

Won't change anything in a meaningful way.  There aren't any liveable jobs at the low end anymore - all those factory jobs that let the unacademic make a liviing are gone.  It'll get worse with TPP.   We're shipping white collar college jobs now - first systems and programming, now even basic accounting are going.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:35 | 5640070 Larry Dallas
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Reagan had Voodoo Economics.

This Community "Collage" plan is what we call Negroeconomics.

 

Go ahead and down vote. You know its true...

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:39 | 5640088 drendebe10
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Im okay with this as long as the liar in chief fudgepacker and all the other liberal progressive democraps pay for it out of thwir own pockets.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:03 | 5639647 nuubee
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So basically, he's admitting that high school is a worthless waste of money. That's all most people study in their first 2 years at a junior college, the same damn things they could have learned in high school. Oblasphemo truly comes across like a madman these days.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:34 | 5639819 Row Well Number 41
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To say High School is useless is just stupid.  High school is a tool to educate your childern, but it is your responsability as a parent to use it properly.  You may need to be a more active parent in making sure that your children are taught and learn what they need, and to reveal the propoganda that is feed to them, but if you are a diligent parent even the poorest high school can still provide a solid education.  If fact poorer high schools have older... less contaminated books.  I would hate to have to read the shit that has come out in the last 20 years

 

This will take the cost of one of the best and most affordable education options and send it's price through the roof.  I learned analogue and digital electronics, mircowave, satellite, and lasers, while working part time.  Community College was the best money I ever spent on education. 10-15 bucks a unit plus books and supplies, maybe 5000 spent in total.

 

At least the people who get sent to community college have the potentail to learn useful trades without aquiring personal debt. 4 year colleges, it is hit or miss depending on what you major in, I mean how many underwater basket weaving degrees do we need, and why are they offered at all?

 

#41

 

 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:32 | 5639935 Lore
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You forget that the Humanities are traditionally reserved for the elite.  Free thinking is a muscle, and oligarchs prefer not to see it exercised unduly by the masses: "It's dangerous."  I agree wholeheartedly that technical training is essential, but we also need to unlock minds by encouraging abstract reasoning.  Balance needs to be struck so that those who don't have dutiful parents looking over their shoulder can discern for themselves which pieces of government propaganda are pure bullshit and which have merit along the road to the greater personal pursuit of Truth. Ideal curricula are those that present the widest possible opportunity for individuals to find their niche for themselves, free of top-down compartmentalization. There's a reason why Agenda 21 and all the other agendas are pushed hard in the first years of schooling:  "Get 'em while they're young."  Oligarchs don't LIKE free thinkers.

P.S. Institutionalized education in general is an empire, long overdue for a purge of "Basket Weaving" and "Basket Weavers."  

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 23:32 | 5640275 nuubee
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To say High School is useless is just stupid.

 

^^ Spoken like it came from someone who's never spent a day at a large-US-metropolis public school . Go spend a week at some of the LA Unified or LB Unified schools in the So.Cal area, and see if you still think that.

 

There's a reason any sane middle-class person living in a major city in the U.S. either pays for private school, or homeschools.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:03 | 5639649 Never One Roach
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More failed leadership. Am I surprised?

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:08 | 5639966 Miffed Microbio...
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Yes, it's like being stuck in the movie Ground Hog Day with out the fun parts or the happy ending. " I've got you Babe" in on my alarm clock song.

Miffed

Fri, 01/09/2015 - 00:24 | 5640407 Freddie
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Oh dear.   That analogy sort of ruined a good movie for me.  I do not watch Hollywood's crap.  Bill Murray also is a somewhat narcissitic pot head but the film was very funny.  Chris Elliott as the cameraman too.  LOL!

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:04 | 5639651 ifishivote
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I have a hunch that community college tuition are about to go through the roof

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:04 | 5639652 ifishivote
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I have a hunch that community college tuition are about to go through the roof

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:04 | 5639654 Which is worse ...
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Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:20 | 5639730 Fuku Ben
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The 21st Century Rebel Yell

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:29 | 5639770 nuke ISIS now
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the Obola Yellen Screwin

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:23 | 5639752 Kaiser Sousa
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"Doomed this country is..."
Yoda

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:29 | 5639784 CaptainObvious
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President Barack Hussein Yoda:  Fuck you up the ass we will!

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:25 | 5639768 Handful of Dust
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Bankrupting the nation will result in Hyperinflation but the timing is tricky. Debt continues to soar and the Fed will need to keep printing. At some point, the camels back will break and you better remember where you had that 'boating accident' because that foolish stuff is going to go through the roof.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:42 | 5639834 Lore
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The debt IS the hyperinflation. Just because the dollar is "strong" measured against an arbitrary basket doesn't mean mountainsful aren't continuing to be conjured from nothing and poured into various earmarked, pork-lined containers. The dollar only appears "strong" because every central bank franchise is doing it (aka "beggar thy neighbor" monetary policy). We have box seats for the most heinous, pathological systemic collapse in history, and the longer it takes to unfold - starting from the macroeconomic periphery and working inward to the domestic heart of the reserve currency - the greater will be the human cost as people are misled into addressing symptoms and distractions while misdiagnosing, neglecting and even denying underlying causes.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:48 | 5639810 Lore
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Policymakers are determined to throw every last bit of YOUR capital (including YOUR sons and daughters: human capital) to perpetuate the cherished collectivist delusions and rackets that form the base of power. (Interesting that today's announcement makes no direct reference to military service.)

Freiheit - Keeping The Dream Alive

The hopes we had were much too high
Way out of reach but we had to try
The game will never be over
Because we're keeping the dream alive

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:06 | 5639655 surf0766
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The marxist is promising free gits like that other great marxist  leader from Venezuela..

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:08 | 5639668 BullyBearish
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Let me see, what costs have been soaring far above anything comparable for years...health care and education because of the heavy governmental involvement ($$)

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:11 | 5639670 Soul Glow
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Finally.  I've always wanted to learn how to bonzai.  Maybe I'll take an art history class while I'm at it.  I really need someone else to tell me the difference between Manet and Monet other than the "a".  In other words I'm glad I won't have to pay thousands of dollars for an education I could get at the library.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:09 | 5639671 Vesuvius
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Nice

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:27 | 5640037 weburke
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if the system operates long enough to implement this, it will be the decline of colleges and their wonderful operating budgets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCgZxrf8nrU

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:09 | 5639672 Which is worse ...
Which is worse - bankers or terrorists's picture

I lived in the Soviet Union for a little while. University was free. Interesting parallel. 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:18 | 5639716 kowalli
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it is still free....

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:41 | 5639857 nmewn
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Well, I guess ya get what ya pay for ;-)

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:47 | 5640114 cynicalskeptic
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wow.... a 2.5 GPA in 'Business' from podunk community college.....

THAT will prepare you for the 21st cwentury.  You'd be better off studying HVAC or diesel mechanics in tech school.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:27 | 5639772 Buckaroo Banzai
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...and voting was a pointless exercise there, too.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:34 | 5639815 kowalli
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you can't get all and right now.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:09 | 5639679 hotrod
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Welcome all ye new immigrants and illegals.  Get in line for your Snap, subprime car loan, free education, free school lunches and Free healthcare.  Because it is only Fair.  I am guessing the cost of community college will increase as the Tab is on the Fed now (taxpayer).  How in the world does O have any political clout left at all.  We sent the message in the elections.  Go fing away.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:11 | 5639681 Mr. Magoo
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2 years of free government conditioning propaganda to prepare you to believe government lies and not to question anything for the rest of your life.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:12 | 5639682 km4
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One third of 22-to-26 year-olds w/ BA either don’t have a job or working at one that doesn’t require a degree http://on.wsj.com/1wsgIWl but Obama the community organizer wants to make > 50% 22-to-26 year-olds 

What a clown!

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:12 | 5639684 XqWretch
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Didnt community college used to be free? In the grand scheme of things, this plan really doesnt bother me. Sure beats giving money to banks and the MIC. At least the actual taxpayers will see some return on their money for once.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:20 | 5639721 NoPension
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No,probably not.
Government is involved. It will be fucked up.
But community colleges will be the new growth area. Profs will get way moar bucks, and campi will expand and grow exponentially .

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:21 | 5639726 NoPension
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Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:34 | 5639817 Earl Slaughter-...
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I'm with you, Xq; a free or low-cost alternative in higher-ed seems reasonable for those who are able and willing. Many civilized and modern nations do that, and actually serve the needs of their citizens, believe-it-or-not.

A lot of hate for a program that could potentially benefit Americans, save kids from a chunk of future debt hanging over their heads (of course must read the fine-print before giving it support).

Must be the big-bank lovers or those who make their dime on servicing student loans who are posting. Hell, maybe even supporters of for-profit schools. Fucking parasites. 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:51 | 5639897 nmewn
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Its Obama, so you might want to read the fine print & check for an expiration date.

You heard free...but he said "What I'd like to to do is to see the first two years of community college free for everybody who is willing to work for it,”

Uh ohhhh, you just might find yourself wiping an ebola victims ass all day in Liberia to payoff your "free" ObamaKation.

Sayin ;-)

 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:15 | 5640001 TungstenBars
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You are too critical of the guy. Sure he fucks up most of the time, but not 100%, more like 80-90%. 

 

This idea might be one of the few decent ideas he has had. An affordable alternative in fields that are more hands on, and thus useful, than much of the academia. 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 23:02 | 5640185 nmewn
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Too critical of Obama? If anything I'm too soft on him.

We're talking about a guy who stood before 300+ million people and dissembled & lied through his teeth from "shovel ready jobs" to ObamaCare to deficit spending to income inequality.

He's very good at making grand statements and giving away (or taking away) other peoples money, labor or liberty and this will be no different.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:01 | 5639940 Mr. Magoo
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A lot of hate for a program that could potentially benefit Americans, save kids from a chunk of future debt hanging over their heads (of course must read the fine-print before giving it support).

Earl Slaughter you are very naive

If we have learned anything we know for sure the Government does NOTHING for our benefit only for our detriment, you can be sure there is some hidden agenda just like the unaffordable care act with all its hidden programs which did not become realized until after it was passed into law.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:16 | 5640005 TungstenBars
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Agenda here is votes from the can't-afford-university camp. The idea benefits these people, and society as a whole, much more than 99% of the policies of the feds

Fri, 01/09/2015 - 07:33 | 5640757 Kobe Beef
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So the same Youts who turned urban high schools into prison yards can now trash the community college, too? 

Wonderful. 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 23:28 | 5640253 Blano
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I'm sick of freebies for everybody.  This country is doomed.  Bloodsuckers should be shot.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:13 | 5639687 Kill or be Killed
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Hell yeah. I'd do that.

Oh, wait. Who's paying for it?

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:14 | 5639691 Caveman93
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Jeez. Sure glad I worked hard and saved the earnings to pay my own way the last two fucking years. What a fucking dick.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 23:28 | 5640263 Blano
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Yeah my daughter just finished 2 years of community college thanks to going into debt.  She's gonna be real happy about this one.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:15 | 5639695 ifishivote
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its all a ploy to make himself look good to the young idiots of this country. He suggests something that has a zero percent chance of being passed by a republican congress. He is going to do this for the next 2 yrs.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:33 | 5639814 CaptainObvious
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Well he can't do what the college students really want him to do:  debt amnesty.  Obammy's puppet master banksters would string him up by his balls.  If he has them.  I once saw a photo of Obammy's balls on the internet, but they were obviously photoshopped into place.  And the social security number tattooed on the left testicle was issued in Connecticut.

Anyway, this is a crumb to the college students of today to keep them mollified, so the college students of tomorrow have to skip college altogether because the 65% tax on their McDonald's wages that was levied to pay for "free community college" makes college a prohibitive expense.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:17 | 5639696 Suisse
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This would absolutely make AA/AS degrees as worthless as a high school diploma. I can imagine hundreds of thousands of AS nursing grads unable to even get jobs cleaning bedpans in nursing homes. Most jobs being created do not require a college degree of any sort, hence the underemployment of college graduates. 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:17 | 5639699 gimli
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Barack will also choose the 2 year curriculum, which will be composed of the following courses:

What cool folks wear on the links.

How to chip out of the rough and look cool.

How to putt ..... and look cool.

How to choose the folks to play with on the green ...... so you look cool.

.... you can fail these the 1st year, still get credit -- and retake them in year two.

 

 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:18 | 5639703 jonjon831983
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1) What's the WH's "projected" # of students

2) WH's expected cost of this?

3) How will WH fund this?

4) What sort of programs will be supported?

5) What "types" of community colleges are eligible.

6) How do I start a community college.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:16 | 5639704 Bastiat
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I read the other day that the average college freshman at admission, reads at the 7th grade level.  Maybe two years of CC will get them up to 10th grade?

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:27 | 5639779 Buckaroo Banzai
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They'll start at 7th grade, and wind up at 6th grade.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:51 | 5640139 Equality 7-25-1
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Preggers with no idea who the babydaddy is. But with Counsellors to see to it they join the FSA.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:35 | 5639818 CaptainObvious
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Are you shitting me?  I was reading at a college level in 6th grade.

Seems like our nation is progressing backwards.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:11 | 5639980 plane jain
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Ditto, college level at age 12.

Don't know exactly what level my daughter reads at now (9), but she was reading at the 4th grade level when she was 6.

Literacy matters. 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:19 | 5639711 Latitude25
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About time money printed out of thin air is used for something benefitting the masses.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:25 | 5639767 XqWretch
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Amen

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:22 | 5639714 razorthin
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Common Core goes to college.  Sweet!

/sarc

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:27 | 5639781 Buckaroo Banzai
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Why the /sarc tag? You are exactly correct, as stated.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:20 | 5639722 IridiumRebel
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And how the fuck is this going to be paid for!?

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:21 | 5639731 razorthin
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Like someone said above, if they are going to print money for fucking war and bank balance sheets, then...

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:14 | 5639993 The9thDoctor
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And how the fuck is this going to be paid for!?

Your property taxes will go up.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:21 | 5639739 Latitude25
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Money out of thin air.  The same way corporations are bailed out. 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:11 | 5639854 nuke ISIS now
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Janet's been working out, because that cunt will be working over time in the print shop..

"Janet, "we de-flationed some folks", so lsten you fucking Yoda whore, get your old tired caved in Mrs Doubtfire ass in there and print  I SAID PRINT PRINT PRINT You fucking troll faced cunt PRINT! ...PRINT US THE FUCK OUT OF THAT SPECIAL CURRENCY PAPER YOU CUNT TROLL!

 

"Hey Biden you goof, get that Paltrow on the horn, I have a special cabinent position I'd like for her to assume"http://dailycaller.com/2014/10/10/gwyneth-paltrow-on-obama-give-this-man...

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:20 | 5639727 q99x2
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Up my FAFSA Obama Mutha Fukka.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:22 | 5639734 The Fonz...befo...
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All you kids sign up to this and make sure to take a gunsmith course in fact demand that it be offered....

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:23 | 5639740 buzzsaw99
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a lame duck dem prez with a republican congress ain't gonna do jack shit

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:24 | 5639749 gimli
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Aren't Barack's kids about ready for college? .... is he just trying to save a buck here?

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:36 | 5640080 Wahooo
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I hope they both marry white guys.

Fri, 01/09/2015 - 04:41 | 5640664 slvrizgold
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I don't!   I hope they marry lesbians so the genotype ends there.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:24 | 5639758 Duc888
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Hey man, I'm in (at age 52), I think my local CC has certs in CNC programming.  I've always wanted to learn that.

 

2.5 GPA?  Ha, I can do that stoned / and or intoxicated, but hey, nuthin like settin the bar low.

 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:46 | 5640104 Equality 7-25-1
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Not if the paid troll mumbling somebody else's notes and grading you is anything like the devout Cuban nationalist American and man hating lesbian "teacher" I had 2 years ago. Or maybe one of the teacher's pets will approach you the first day of class and ask you to drop so they don't have to speak English, then at the end of class tell you the teacher decided to drop you and its a closed class. 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:25 | 5639762 CaptainObvious
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"Participating states will be expected to contribute the remaining funds necessary to eliminate the tuition for eligible students."

How nice of Ofuckface to volunteer state revenue to pay for federal programs. 

I'm beginning to think we do, in fact, need a Constitutional Convention.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:51 | 5640133 Suisse
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Yes, he wants state to pay a fourth of this which is a massive unfunded mandate. I can't see this passing and when it doesn't he'll blame Republicans. 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 23:36 | 5640291 insanelysane
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The Federal government can print money to pay for it but the states must raise taxes.  It's a punch in the gut when there is a local project and the liberals around say well the state is paying 40% and the federal government 40% and the community only needs to kick in 20%.  Ummm, I'm paying the taxes to all 3 and I'm 100% sure some fellow American in another town in another state is hearing the same stupid logic from one of his FSA neighbors.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 23:34 | 5640287 Blano
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Glad I'm in Texas.  This should go nowhere here then.  At least it better.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:26 | 5639766 Sizzurp
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So he's really saying, "We screwed up high schools, now we are going to screw up community colleges too."  What a joke. He wants to create another federally guaranteed jobs program for the unproductive.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:27 | 5639773 Seize Mars
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To paraphrase congressman Davy Crockett, it's not your to give, asshole.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:28 | 5639785 yogibear
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Print moar and create debt. QE 4, QE 5, QE toinfinity.

The deficit will easily be over $19 trillion this year.

 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:30 | 5639789 Infinite QE
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As Frank Zappa said: "If you want to get laid, go to college. If you want to learn something, go to a library".

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:32 | 5639797 Last of the Mid...
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There will  be lots of this in the next year, anything to garner the divide and conquer vote for the dems. Two parties wrestlling for control of our soul and they're both evil. Sad this is what it has degraded to

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:31 | 5639802 Seasmoke
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I think I will go back to college......then get a public taker job....I'm looking for a mulligan on the past 30 years

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:37 | 5639826 One And Only
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I think everyone should go to medical school. Free. Mandatory.

Everyone can be a rich doctor and our medical costs will go down.

Boom. Nobel Prize me.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:44 | 5640102 TalkToLind
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Hell, I think every bitch in here should get a Nobel Prize.  Print them in bulk, it makes them MOAR valuable and rare!

Fri, 01/09/2015 - 06:41 | 5640721 Flagit
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I think everyone should go to medical school. Free. Mandatory.

Everyone can be a rich doctor and our medical costs will go down.

Boom. Nobel Prize me.

 

I launched drones on wedding parties for 2 years.

Boom. Nobel Prize me.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:36 | 5639838 Atomizer
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Obama’s Everest College Commercial - Hood Variant bitchez can go to skhoolz frez. /Sarc.

This jackass President sets himself up for every disaster imaginable. Good to know he is coached by the best think tank Marxists.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:41 | 5639853 The Proletariat
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If the costs do not add up to at least $85 billion a month to send some folks to college, then it won't work.  Signed, Edward

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:44 | 5639856 Housewife
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This is a win-win for Obama: He either props up the college farce or he gets to say, "I tried to help Main Street but the Republicans stopped me. They hate kittens too." 

 

 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:45 | 5639867 Cabreado
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The parallels keep coming...

Pay attention not to the details of how the parallels manifest themselves (such as the subject matter of the article), but to the trajectory and therefore the enablers.

The first enablers are the (only) body constitutionally designed and authorized to squelch this madness, so then...

that is where the attention must be paid.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:56 | 5639872 williambanzai7
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Work through 2 year community college flipping burgers, so we can compete with anyone in the world.

What a moron.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:46 | 5639874 buyingsterling
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Obama's going to be tried for treason before it's all over and then we really may have to 'torture some folks' because it really will be about national security. How does a nation survive a leader who HATES the country with a passion exceeded only by the hatred he harbors for most of its inhabitants?

You do it by making A FUCKING EXAMPLE out of them. That's for starters. Then you neuter their entire lineage. These folks don't believe in hell, so deterrence starts with creating it for them.

Nah, just funnin. Obama's cool in my book. We won't ever need to torture him to death to reveal the poison pills he's planted, because he hasn't planted any, he loves you and he loves America. He loves us enough to wake us up to reality, which is that we've had it so good that we're now utterly ennervated as a low-grade demagogic  mean-spirited little twink pimps out 99% of the planet. Whatever 'system' allowed this to happen is ripe for violent revision.

Thanks, Barry. Here's hoping that your role continues to play out to the now logical end.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:17 | 5640008 Buster Cherry
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Is there a James Earl Ray out there anywhere?

Fri, 01/09/2015 - 05:10 | 5640676 Pareto
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I agree but the concept of treason doesn't mean anything.....to anybody....anymore.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 21:52 | 5639892 czarangelus
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Thanks, you asshole.

 

I have a confession to make. I'm a millennial and I was raised in a strongly conservative Christian household. I was quoting Limbaugh to my peers in 5th grade - my gods, you can all imagine how that turned out. I got expelled from public high school and worked odd jobs as a waiter for a few years just out of high school. Still listening to Limbaugh and watching Fox News.

Eventually I decided I wanted to go to college because my whole life it was sold to me as the method of making connections and learning payable skills. I took over $100,000 of loans out, cosigned by my parents and mortgaged against their house, and I went to a small private university and got a degree in philosophy.

I discovered that the Iraq War was a fraud in late '03 and discovered the Federal Reserve quite shortly after that. Is that not hilarious? There I was, stuck with 3/4 of a university degree in an unsaleable subject for a fucking extraordinary amount of money - and then everything about the political scam hit me at once.

I'm not sure why I'm telling ZH this story. I know some of you guys are old dudes, and I just want to explain to you part of why the millennial generation is so fucked up. Everyone on this site had to awaken the the unreality of everything you'd ever been taught some time. However, it seems  like my generation got in too late to enjoy the benefits of the gravy train and too early to see the scam everyone in our entire lives was unconsciously running.

In conclusion, fuck that cloned Obama guy for making even that effort worthless. Now my college degree, as dumb as even that was, is worth even less. Now it's just two more years of high school. What kind of fucking embarassment is this?

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:22 | 5640025 Yes_Questions
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you are not alone.

 

I abandoned my Degree around 2002, about 75% complete, astonished/ashamed how much kool aid I drank.

 

and there are moar, we a legion.

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:29 | 5640049 TrustbutVerify
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A real education prepares you to deal with real life.  Its not just about your diploma, its about being able to get jiggy even if those you thought would fawn over you aren't fawning over you.  A major poertion of graduates end up doing something other than working in their diploma'd field.  

Dig deep inside of yourself and make it happen.  You may not realize yet it but you do have what it takes.  This is true for most everyone but those that 'git wit it' with whatever comes their way or make happen differentiate themselves from the other 95%. 

Thu, 01/08/2015 - 22:33 | 5640064 Wahooo
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There are plenty of successful philosophy majors. It's actually a good exercise in critical thinking.

http://www.businessinsider.com/successful-philosophy-majors-2014-1

Did you enjoy waiting tables? There are good jobs in the hospitality industry - people reward good service.

Did some of your early conservative upbringing cloud you view of some opportunities? I know that looking back, I missed some great opportunities because of the way I was taught to think.

I haven't found Limbaugh or Fox News to be mind expanding experiences.

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