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'Charlie Hebdo' Suspects, Paris Hostage-Takers Killed; Four Hostages Dead, Four Severely Injured
Update: the hostage-takers are dead. However, according to Reuters at least four hostages at the Kosher supermarket have been killed according to Reuters, citing a police source. Additionally, and take this with a grain of salt, CNN adds that the female suspect in the Paris grocery siege escapes.
CONFIRMED: Paris Authorities Confirm Death Of Market Hostage Taker Amedy Coulibaly. 3 Ambulances Seen Leaving Market pic.twitter.com/mdsPUjm5ok
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) January 9, 2015
Live Feed:
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- *FRENCH POLICE START RAID ON CHARLIE HEBDO SUSPECTS' HIDEOUT
- *2 EXPLOSIONS, 10 SHOTS AS POLICE RAID DAMMARTIN HIDEOUT
- *CHARLIE HEBDO SUSPECTS KILLED IN POLICE RAID: AFP
- *CHARLIE HEBDO SUSPECTS' HOSTAGE IS FREE: AFP
- *DAMMARTIN HOSTAGE FREED, ISN'T HURT, AFP REPORTS
Gunshots have been heard in Dammartin-en-Goele where the two Charlie Hebdo suspects are holed up with a hostage.
Sky's Ian Woods, who is on the scene, said: "There was a burst of gunfire that lasted about 10 seconds. Since then we’ve heard four or five explosions.
Clearly this is the end game of this operation."
Within the past few minutes smoke was seen rising from the factory complex close to the outskirts of Paris and near to Charles De Gaulle airport.
And now we are hearing explosions at the 2nd hostage situation in Paris:
- *FOUR EXPLOSIONS HEARD AT PARIS PORTE DE VINCENNES HOSTAGE SITE
- *EXPLOSIONS, GUNFIRE HEARD AT PORTE DE VINCENNES HOSTAGE SITE
- *SEVERAL HOSTAGES FREED AT JEWISH SUPERMARKET IN PARIS: AFP
Clip of the Police Storming the grocery store...
Photo of freed hostages running for cover. Photo Thomas Samson #AFP pic.twitter.com/lJsTRC3sn9
— Conflict News (@rConflictNews) January 9, 2015
#France update: 4 hostages killed and 4 people severly injured on police assault to kosher supermarket in #Parispic.twitter.com/KnxdQBjYXO
— José Miguel Sardo (@jmsardo)
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OH NO!!!! Mossad is about to lose two of its finest, non? Imbeciles.....
We could only wish.....
You two remind me of those Nazi assholes in Inglourious Basterds who get their brains beat out with a baseball bat. But in your cases I'm afraid the targets would be hard to find.
Hey Xanthias, this site might not be the place for you. PuffHo or Daily Kos might better suit you. I hear sarcasm has been outlawed over there so as not to confuse the more feeble minded among us. Give it a try!
that movie was another example of Jewish revenge porn.
The Old Testament ethos is about ethnocentrism, megalomania and revenge. The New Testament is more about love, mercy, and a universalist ethics {Who is my neighbor? For Jesus, it included the Samaritans - it includes only Jews for the Talmudists}.
It is of course quite likely that this was simply the work of Muslim extremists, but given the state of Israel's history and use of false flags, from the King David Hotel bombing, to the Lavon Affair, the USS Liberty, and 9/11 - it seems fair to ask given the timing and the location of the final showdown here.
http://www.phibetaiota.net/2015/01/owl-paris-12-murder-by-mossad-false-f...
The Koran itself is riddled with passages extolling the virtue of violence against infidels. There's simply no question about it, and well-respected authors are free to discuss this.
The same intellectual freedom does not apply, it seems, to a discussion of the xenophobia, violence, and hate for "the other" woven into the fabric of Jewish sacred texts. Assholes like you will scream "Nazi" whenever one points out how similar to Nazism Orthodox Judaism truly is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSy6ENVAJlY
Nice picture of the trees. There's no business like showbusiness.
Oh, lots of smoke now...Standby...Wait...The picture is becoming clearer...It's smoke and MIRRORS!!!!
This morning I posted that I thought they would rap this up at 4pm local time. Missed it by an hour. Enjoy the weekend, spend, spend, spend.
Mossad false flag
CIA false flag
MI6 saving the Crown's reputation again, just like with the hit on Diana.
Cui bono? Those two groups are all about helping the NWO along, not inspiring populism among the native white people of Europe.
so did france want to join some sort of russian trade agreement? did they want to rehypothicate their gold? becuase without fail there is always some sketchy shit going on behinde the scenes
UN vote on Palestinian stateship. Look it up.
Nobody gives a fuck about the Palestinians. Not the arabs, not the jews, not the USA, nobody. They are just a political football. It's in everybody's interests for them to remain exactly as they are.
It's in their own interests to remain where they are. Imagine for a second that they become independent, responsible for their own infrastructure, their own population, their own protection and their own government. Imagine what it would spell out for the Palestinian Authority when all those refugees in Syria, Iraq, wherever, decide to come home. Imagine having to deal with your population potentially doubling in a manner of months! Imagine what kind of political clout you'll lose after becoming a state, since there will be very little to accomplish in the world arena afterwards. Then imagine the neighbors that they will be surrounded by, and they'll realize that their Arab "cousins" are just "cousins" in name only. They have ISIS to deal with. They have the growing conflict between Sunnis and Shiites to deal with. They will have diminished if not entirely lost support from the Arab world now that their primary political objective has been complete.
It's in the best interest for the PA to remain where they are. In as much as a 2 state solution would probably be a good idea, an independent Palestinian state, in this current global geopolitical climate, just won't be able to exist. I wouldn't be surprised that within a year of the Palestinian state forming, Jordan would try something.
They're best hope is to argue for a similar autonomy that the US grants Native American reservations, everything else is throwing things into the wall to see what sticks...and tbh, less and less is sticking.
"There is unrest in the forest,
There is trouble with the trees,
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas."
Nice
"And the plebs are all kept docile
By taser,
Gun,
And law."
Rush, "The Trees," updated for 2015
Then What the Fuck Mother Fucker showed up and said
Ah, Fuck um' all
NotApplicable:
Not many would get that vague Rush "The Trees" reference. Nice...
I miss it (her) when you don't post...
Rush? Old school brah. 1970's...2112?
One my faves - awesome stuff.
There are monkeys in the forest,
there are baboons in the trees,
And they rape and rob and murder,
And bring long unseen disease.
"progress in physical sciences and technologies has made the social pyramid systems become globalized systems of electronic monkey money, backed by apes with atomic bombs." - Radical Marijuana
So there's that, and then there's diseases and stuff introduced to indigenous people by Europeans...
The Trees/RUSH/Hemispheres/1978 was said to be written about their tireless efforts (read: touring ie:working) to break into the American market because Canada was such a small market. Oaks=America, Maples=Canada.
Also alluded to on 1975's Caress of Steel/The Necromancer: "the three travelers, men of willowdale, emerge from the forest shadow, turning south, journeying into the dark and forbidding lands of the Necromancer..." (evil prism eye and all that LOL)
Stronger more direct material on the "holy wars" came on 2007's Snakes And Arrows:
"Now it's come to this, it's like we're back in the dark ages
From the middle east to the middle west, it's a world of superstition.
Now it's come to this, wide -eyed armies of the faithful
From the middle east to the middle west
Pray and pass the ammunition...
elemental war...
Now it's come to this, all those speeches and mass-deceptions
From the middle east to the middle west, like crusaders in a holy alliance
Now it's come to this, like we're back in the dark ages
From the middle east to the middle west
It's a plague that resists all science..."
-The Way The Wind Blows
--------------------------
"I've got my own moral compass to steer by, a guiding star beats a spirit in the sky
And all the preaching voices, empty vessels ring so loud, as they move among the crowd.
Fools and thieves are well disguised, in the temple and market place, in the temple and market place...
I've got my own spirit level for balance, to tell if my choice is leading up or down
And all the shouting voices try to throw me off my course
Some by sermon, some by force.
Fools and thieves are dangerous in the temple and market place, in the temple and market place..."
-Faithless
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Dead men tell no tales.
No animals were harmed.
No yacht to soak up hundreds of rounds.
<---- psy op
<---- legit
<--- feel safer
<---less freedoms comin
I like your poll better than mine
Hilarious when you think about your poll results... because I don't think there's a person alive who watched the video of that policeman getting shot in the head and wasn't sitting there wishing they were in the same spot as the dude with the cell phone camera, but instead of a cell phone, they had a >30 cal loaded rifle with a decent sight. From that vantage point, both terr'ists should have gone down without knowing what hit them.
Freedom would have changed the outcome.
That's exactly how I felt. It was my first impression when watching the video. Psyop or not, I would have lit those two up.
Nothing a bolt action from above couldn't have handled in under six seconds...
Exactly what I thought also. The fact is though the only thing any of us can truly change and control is ourselves. If you want to carry to protect the innocent or defenseless, I say do it.
Vigilante justice?
I don't see how anyone could've possibly been sitting on the roof with his rifle while this shit happened.
You would've had to get it our of your locker and run back up, so you would've probably gotten a heart attack from running up the stairs and it would've been to late anyway.
You're right, unless you literally kept it loaded underneath the windowsill, you'd probably be too late to save the cop. But you might not have been too late to shoot them anyway. I would have, so help me god, I would have. Go ahead and convict me, law enforcement, throw me in prison if you feel you must... but I won't let two fuckheads start shooting up my society right in front of me.
You should feel the same way.
My thought is that with enough people with pistols, a barrage of fire would have stopped them from the roof. I'm not sure carrying a rifle around with you all the time is such a good idea.
Amen brother....my thoughts were, "if it happened here, those guys would be toast" and always keeping this in my mind and how I would cope with this situation WHEN it comes to my front door.
<---- Less Freedom for Muslims
<---- Less Freedom for the rest of us
In these fucked up times I honestly don't know anymore.
me either
I'm exactly 50/50 on the psyop legit question. I voted psyop after wavering for a few...my attempt to balance out the poll ))
The only thing suspect was the ID being found.
.... i think that's part of the plan
Remember that Islam means submit.
Is that something you are prepared to do for peace?
Remember Christianity means bend over.
Are you comfortable? Then lets begin.
He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. - Luke 22:36
Your understanding of Christianity is wrong.
Your understanding of Christianity is wrong...
And in context, as one reads further, this instruction was evidently carried out by the betrayer, who had the purse and brought the swords to the garden, not just Peter, whose futile attempt to "rescue" an innocent person was circumvented by Christ himself.
jmunderstanding.
While he was still speaking a crowd came up, and the man who was called Judas, one of the Twelve, was leading them. He approached Jesus to kiss him, but Jesus asked him, “Judas, are you betraying the Son of Man with a kiss?”
When Jesus’ followers saw what was going to happen, they said, “Lord, should we strike with our swords?” And one of them struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his right ear.
But Jesus answered, “No more of this!” And he touched the man’s ear and healed him.
Then Jesus said to the chief priests, the officers of the temple guard, and the elders, who had come for him, “Am I leading a rebellion, that you have come with swords and clubs? Every day I was with you in the temple courts, and you did not lay a hand on me. But this is your hour —when darkness reigns.” Luke 22:47-53.
I kinda see the institutional "bend over and take it" perversion here. Jesus didn't need any swords to defend himself so that is not what they were for. Thus the circumvention of Peter who was defending someone that did not need any defense. The order to the followers was literal for safety on the road. You don't have to sell your shirt for a spiritual sword that is free.
The order to the followers was literal...
I won't dispute that necesssarily. If memory serves correctly, God was the first to branish a sword in defending the Tree of Life from the first rebels. And while Jesus could have called "legions of angels", the fact He didn't displays an even greater power, that of self-control.
There's a story of Ezra being embarrassed to ask the authorities for an armed guard to accompany the remnant returning from captivity while in possession of the sacked temple's treasures, so depending on the providential care of the Almighty was not without precedent.
I recently had a conversation with my father-in-law regarding a discussion he had with an off duty police officer packing a quite visible side arm while officiating / serving in our fellowship's communion service. The issue continues to ellicit interesting implications to this day.
jmobservation
I won't bend. But I will shoot.
The point is;
all religion when practiced at the level of institution is a false god. Islam and Christianity both expose the hypocrisy of our exisitence, blaming one is wrong when both are to blame in equal measure.
Blame is one thing.
Killing all those who do not convert is another thing.
LOL fuck man Christians did the SAME THING for fucking centuries, wakey wakey? or the hypocrisy will eat you alive!
these mussies are just trapped in the same iron age today but they're NO different than your founding fathers!! the only difference is the physical limitation of time
Holy shit, are you ignorant about the history and ideology of Christianity and Islam. Unfortunately, you are in good company.
coming from somebody who odds say still think there were WMD's in Iraq, then you sir can have your delusion. History is only written by the winner.....write??
"I'd rather die standing than live on my knees" - Stephane Charbonnier, "Charb" , editor, shot dead at his office in Paris by two gangsters.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11333250/Id-rath...
these days the lines are blurred. there really is no way to discern the two. innocents died as a result. that is- if they wernt just crisis actors and such
Don't think for New York second the blurring is an accident!
Don't think for New York second the blurring is an accident!
Legitimate psy-op. Both Charlie Hebdo and the gunmen.
Remember folks, what's the oldest trick in the book?
"Let's you and him fight!"
strange that one straw poll is 60-40 in favour of "legit", and then in the next straw poll it's 99% "less freedoms coming"?
Since this whole thing started 13 odd years ago, it's been nothing BUT psy-ops followed by ever more draconian "security" measures. They fucking
NEED these attacks. Just like NATO needed their Gladio ops to terrorise the Western plebs into hating the other side.
Cui bono? The glorious, benevolent, freedom loving Western military machine, or some poor fucking Palestinian in his Gaza apartment hoping he wont get
vaporised by an Israeli missile tonight?
One of the terorrist lost his ID card in the car, which they used to raid the Hebdo.
Exactly according to the script, which was played on 9/11 with the passport on the street.
the french government gave them the weapons in Lybia and Syria, why are they now screaming terorrists?
Tried and true?
Remember kids, when planning a terrorist attack, always be sure to bring along your papers (in a haphazard fashion).
Which ones are the terrorists again?
so did they blow them up? reports of explosions
Sounds like Kalashnikovs versus flashbangs and NATO 5.56.
That's a wrap !!! Friday evening. Watch some football this weekend , drink some wine..see everyone back early Monday with the new script.
Rapid Escalation of the French crisis *** Reports of an armed incident near Eiffel Tower *** Hostages taken in Paris supermarket, reportedly by Algerian terrorists (Patsies?) *** Military mobilized near Paris *** Gunshots have been heard in Dammartin-en-Goele where the two Charlie Hebdo suspects are holed up with a hostage. DETAILS HERE.
reports of baggettes littering the streets.
News flash from "Le Monde":
all shops in the area are closed, except the bakery, used by the journalists...
"baguettes" et/ou "batards"
Avoid Essential's link. TROJAN
I bet they make a hash of this....
Have you ever seen an American operation like this where they toss two rounds of flash bangs (in the printing place)? That means they got inside and they were not where they expected them.
That means no real time video inside.
And I do not know shit about this stuff, except what I watch on TV.
Very sloppy.
Perhaps more than one room. Bang one, bang them all.
Trojan reported in post below!!
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
Don't be so sure, the French and Europe in general has more experience with terrorism events than we do in the USA. Even back in the early 90's, I remember having to go through multiple checkpoints at Orly- and this was leaving, not entering France. Each of these checkpoints had guys with automatic rifles in plain view. Red Brigades, Red Army, IRA, bunches of other leftist terrorists back then. Now, new players in similar game.
As an American I know I'm supposed to be standing around with one thumb in my mouth and the other thumb up my ass waiting for someone to yell SWITCH!
But I'm not.
Shelter in place.
we _________some folks!
Looks like they're taking the supermarket too.....
I have a bad feeling about this....Looks very clumsy...
Can someone brief me on where this highly complex false flag operation stands at present? So many moving parts. We've got the CIA, Mossad, Russians, NWO bankers and a whole host of other players involved but no actual Muslim or Islamic involvement whatsoever. So, could someone spell it out for a low thinker like myself. Was this a Mossad sponsored attack aimed at punishing France for embracing Russia? Where do the Ukrainians, and in particular, Ukrainian Jews fit in? And the CIA? Are they punishing France for making overtures of ending sanctions against Russia? Or is it Mossad? I just can't keep all this straight in my head. As I said, it's so complex. It's a wonder they were able to keep this under wraps with hundreds of people in on the gag (all actors, correct)? Anyone?
... and these are The Days of our Lives...
/it really is like a soap opera
The French tried to surrender but the Muslims demanded martyrdum. So it was a standoff.
@sunnyside
All this ugly disdain and nasty jokes come from the firm refusal of the French to join America in Irak, in 2003.
Since France refused to go to Iraq, American warmongers and neo-cons made French army look like cowards – as a punishment.
But History has proved the French were right, and that the WMD were only a dirty trick to serve as a pretext.
Nevertheless, the hate of American warmongers against France remains still there, well alive, even in ZH.
This stale hate still shows through "innocent good jokes" about the “surrender monkeys” and their white flags …
As for the rest, the French can be proud of their Military History:
According to the British historian Niall Ferguson, since 387 BC, France has fought 168 major wars against such badasses as the Roman Empire, the British Army and the Turkish forces. Their track record isn't too shabby, either: They've won 109, lost 49 and drawn 10 times.
This makes France the most successful military power in European history - in terms of number of fought and won …
The French have succeeded to conquer and guard the largest country in Europe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_France
What's so complicated? All I saw was a couple of guys using guns which produced no recoil, nor bleeding in its victims. Afterwards, there's some smoke (and mirrors) in some woods, where we are supposed to accept that there are terrorists. It's simple really. If you can't understand, it's only for lack of trying or because it's your JOB NOT TO UNDERSTAND.
What you saw via grainy cell phone footage was exactly what you wanted to see. It was clearly Mossad Zio-Jew agents who dumped the 12 cadavers (actors) and spattered blood about Charlie AFTER the shootings. And they did it while cameras were rolling. DAMN!!! These guys are good.....
And you hate muslims to the extent they are all terrists who should be wiped out (the repressed government returns), that's the grainy video in your head.
This is to some degree a psyop, whether that be full on with crisis actors (while unlikely, it is possible), drugged individuals (it's been 50 years since mind control experiments), mercs (you can work that out yourself), threatened terra cells (yes, good Americans would stoop to such levels for their manifest destiny), criminal muslims who are leaned on by psyop groups (we know 99% of foiled plots are created by psyops, and the successful ones are sketchy in details), or simply in the wrap up (divide and conquer, get people onside that whatever problems we Westerners have at least we're not dirty brown people fighting it out).
You're just on the other side of what you are attacking. He could be wrong, but nothing he said is deserving of your scorn. Christians, Jews, and Atheists are no better than Muslims. Nor your religion of Capital. Atheist capitalism kills over 15 million people every year. That does not mean Islam is right, it may be very wrong, perhaps worse if they came to power. But they are not in power. They are not the enemy at the moment. Your government is and many anti-government people like you are all of a sudden calling for the return of the government to protect you and wage war on the bogeyman.
Good fall, keep America strong, dumbass.
And you hate muslims to the extent they are all terrists who should be wiped out (the repressed government returns), that's the grainy video in your head.
You made a fantastical leap from my belief that JUST MAYBE this really was organic terrorism resulting from zealotry to the assumption that I hate Muslims. My guess is you're very prone to those sorts of fallacies - in the fictional world in your head where you choose to reside and in your day to day dealings with actual people (actors? Mossad agents? Ukrainian Jews?) around you. It paints a pretty disturbing picture of your existence and the existences of like minded people. When everything must be attributed to conspiracy then it makes me believe you are no longer capable of discerning between reality and fantasy. I hear Lithium has helped some people....
The rest of your post is largely moot, consisting of various strawmen and assertions that cannot possibly be deduced from my hypothesis that this was indeed a run of the mill fanatical orgy of violence and not some sophisticated psy-op.
I am not at all certain what is going on. And to be fair, it is quite impossible to know what is happening in the world - not to mention knowing how to act. I do know two things though. The 'everything is a conspiracy' narrative feeds into this idea that those who seek to control us are all-powerful, do not make mistakes, and have a creativity to their cruelty which can only lead us all into helplessness.
Such a narrative deserves critique, but the reaction against conspiracies isn't necessarily better. Often the counter-narrative is that the people in power are themselves powerless, a bunch of blundering idiots who don't know the correct response. This feeds into the idea that we need an all-powerful leader who will defeat incompetence here at home and destroy the rising evil abroad. We can see this narrative everywhere today, very common sentiment in America and the likely outcome is a strengthened government, police state, deep psychological operations etc.
Let's keep in mind one thing here, ask yourself, 'Who has come into power?' Or, who is in the position of apparent power? Bush and then Obama. The bumbling southerner and then the house negro. I personally think such a situation is too convenient, too much of a fictitious parallel to American history to be an accident. And if it's not a contingency then it was to some degree planned. And if the government was planning a deepened militarisation of the state at home and abroad then a scapegoat president to appear as king to be beheaded was necessary for the deep state to progress. They needed a distraction, and what better one than the three stooges: conservative white southerners, liberal black northerners, and a public getting hit in the face between the two calling for more of it the whole time. They call for deepened power and it happens in plain sight.
Another aspect to this narrative is collection of information. The deep state, psyops, the new world order (whatever you want to call them) have succeeded in having a narrative develop which focuses on collection of information. All the discussion feeds back to former governments like East Germany and the socialist/fascists. Anyone who has studied psychological operations, however, knows that collection of information is a small part of these organisations. What they really desire is to change culture, to manipulate ideas, and push people into a void of new activity. This is what allows them to manipulate things further. And if you have read de Tocqueville (I'm certain the psyops do) then you know it was the same during the French Revolution: collecting information on citizens was not intended to directly repress them, rather it was intended to cause changes which would allow the monarchy to continue on in new ways.
Now consider what the democratic position was on data-collection during WWII. American data scientists came to the conclusion that one should assume the enemy will be aware of your ideas at the moment they come into being. This theory (which led to cybernetics and the internet) is what is behind hidden in plain sight psychological operations. Don't hide the key, allow it to be in the open but ensure that the key always changes, or is so difficult that only a few people can ever figure out the problem (and when they do it is always too late, 'the Owl of Minerva flies at dusk'). Now compare this to the post-liberal end of history:
"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."
The problem with ideas is that they lead to neverending labyrinths (here you can joke about the length of this post), they can lead to inaction. While we spend time in the labyrinth we become paralysed, never knowing what is right and what is wrong. Isn't this the ultimate goal of psychological operations? Not direct control, but an impossible confusion of what is right and wrong. If the world is turned into an asylum then people only ever hurt each others or themselves. If those in power can remove themselves from the situation then the people can always be reduced back into the situation. They will totally control themselves with their paralysis.
Say what you will about Islamic ideas. I do not agree with them at all, but I can see that the belief in one thing allows them to act. The western world believes in so many things, while proclaiming they believe in nothing, that they are paralysed in their non-belief; I suppose we could say it is a belief in nothing but changing beliefs. This should be clear in the satirical cartoons, many of them are ambiguous, could be interpreted as critical of democracy just as much as mocking Islam. It is self-mockery in that people miss the Freudian subliminal messages. I think that the image of Muhammad whipping people into laughter is the best one. Our leaders are the Muhammad now trying to whip us into maniacal laughter.
Similarly, in the Guardian one of the cartoons was suggesting that Muslims would be horrified that they are being mocked. In reality they simply see this as the contemptuous nature of Western power, a power who sees their people as useless shadows to be made permanent in new walls. The idea is that everyone is Charlie Hebdou, we are all defending free speech. But the western world has come to destroy free speech in that ideas have become ritual without belief. People publish stories, and new information, but it is all meaningless. It is all geared to keeping this society going, a society again which represents nothing, believes in nothing, has no purpose or end goal. Mocking these people wouldn't do anything, because you're not mocking the right thing. The pen is only mightier than the sword if you say the right thing (or have the power to implement whatever you want, these journalists are simply extending the narrative of war by allowing it to go on in plain sight. Nowhere is it stated how close the psyops and jihadists are.).
How ironic then that the EU/NATO deep state has come to condemn free speech, making a joke of these people as useless shadows studying history as they are passed by in history itself. Here the idea is very close to that of Islamic Jihadists, they will act and then act again, and then decide what to do with that. They might be wrong but at least they are acting and not paralysed in their ideas, at least they are not caught in the labyrinth of the end of history.
They do not believe in doing right, they only believe in acting. And that is why most narratives of total conspiracy (of the reptilians here or the Islamists from out there) are wrong. Powerful leaders never believed in doing right, only what is right for the abstract territory of their nation. Everything is expendable within that.
That is why I believe there is some connection between the deep state and Islamists. Some of it is planned, some of it is contingent. Sometimes you just need to give people a little push. Act, and then people will go along with you. People will respond and add further actions to your movement. The people paralysed by ideas will only contribute myths from which to further act on. As a side, I think this is more likely what happened on 9/11. They were real attacks with accidents along the way, but agents worked with these people to ensure they went through with it. This is much more horrifying than the ideas that Mossad did it, or were somehow planned all the way through with explosives/etc. A conspiracy only really requires a few people who know how to push people into action, as if pieces on a board.
I apologise if this is too long. As a short version, consider how this idea would feed into psychological operations:
"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."
Looked like recoil to me when he head shot that guard, and the sound was of a live round echoing down the street. Sounded just like an AK or variant. Loud and snappy.
Look - I know that you suffer from lack of real world experience and just watch things on video and then make faulty analysis upon those pixels, but some of us have shot AKs at a range and have also been on or near the set of films or movies when ''fake'' rounds are used.
Unfortunately for your premise, the sound on that nasty LiveLeak video is quite real.
Someone could execute a dozen people directly in front of you, and you would not acknowledget that it happened.
If I shoot you in the medula oblongata, your heart is going to stop.
If your heart stops, you are not going to bleed.
Gravity takes over and the blood will automatically just flow to the lowest point. That is not always where the hole is.
yep....do Coors stop the marketing campaign after 1 ad on a Sunday evening? Exactly. Keep on pumping the Muslim terrorist boogeyman to the Western plebs. It'll eventually get to a stage where your 2 year old daughter sees an "Arab looking" guy buying batteries and urges you to call the FBI.
weak strawman sarc. the first op was clearly military. you've been told who is dead with a hostage to confirm it yet no one has actually seen the guys and there is a report of a guy who turned himself in because his name matched the suspects name but is not him. carefully managed hit with a conclusion. simple mob stuff with a neat media finish.
the kosher shop guy is a run of the mill wacko not much different than you.
LMMFAO....Yeah, I'm the wacko.
don't brain cramp.....the false flag was on Sept, 11, 2001, this is the part of the operation where fear is used to cow populations into submitting to more "protection" from their MIC overlords. Just takes time, if you're operating on reptillian time the sequence of events is shorter in lizard years than in human years
I like the "toe the line or else" angle. Fench banker makes nice with Russia, his plane hits a snow plow. French .gov says let's play nice with Russia, multiple terror events. Third time is a charm?
worked in Nicuragua, Honduras, the play book is old
So are the Yemenis working with the Israelis/Mossad now in training these guys? Question: does Mossad do the training within Yemen or does Mossad merely change their travel itinerary to show that they travled to Yemen when in fact they were training on a kibbutz in Israel with Yemenis? Or did they get trained in Gitmo by the CIA who later falsified flight records to show they traveled to Yemen to train alongside elite Mossad/French double agents? Hard to keep up.....
Your muddying the water to much. Its keep it simple stupid. Nobody ever knows what the other person is doing. So you keep the group small and you let everybody not involved to do their job as normal. Think of the NFL they have one or two people in NY watching games and deciding on what calls to make so they can control the games. The players still have to play. Don't think to hard just find the one common denominator who benefits from all of this mess.
Boston was shut down with a fake bombing. Boston was picked because the people of Massachusetts and surrounding states get all of their news from that city. Also the people of Massachusetts are controllable just look at their politics. And you will notice that all of the effected areas have a high concentration of affluent Jewish people. I don't yet understand why. Columbine, Sandyhoook , Boston, Ny, Auroa, Paris.
It's also important to keep in mind how domesticated and subservient people have become. This is evident in the media. If you watch how people in spoof media take part in the dialogue they quite willingly go along, assuming what is said is true. This is a very small power line, but people will fall into line.
Now with cops it is even worse. Even in these organisations most simply just do their jobs. If the men have butt brooms they do not need in on all of the information. In a situation where people fall into line you only need stand out leaders, dividing events, and the constructed heroics of participating in the state's push for its 'good'.
This, of course, does not in any way mean to suggest these are false flag operations. I think it is a mistake to jump to such conclusions. However, this reasoning should make clear how the defense that 'such a secret could never be kept' is a fallacy since the human mind does not require full information of events for participation in them. People will fall into events, immerse themselves in fiction, that is what ideology is all about.
Shots to get rid of all the witnesses and explosions to get rid of the remaining evidence.
Explosions don't get rid of evidence, even a nuclear fireball leaves evidencary traces.
Your response is 100% typical of the kind of response from those like you - zero knowledge of Science on any working level.
IN the US we have the FBI to get rid of evidence.
Judging by the down arrows of legit comments, looks like the troll brigade is out in force.
TTS
Trolls
Trojans
Scumbags
I thought a Trojan was a scumbag! But I can't really remember, since I haven't been laid in eight years.
There's a difference between not agreeing and trolling. But I sure am glad you are keeping track of what is legit and what is not.
Love the shoulder pads the French are sporting, looks tough, need to protect those shoulders from bullets. Frenchy, trade in the shoulder pads for a helmet.
Looks expensive. Andy and Barney could've flushed those fellas out with a skunk and a couple of snares.
My daughter was wondering why this shit never happens in Brooklyn?
Give it time.....
the reason the muzulmen don't do it is because macdonald's cheese burgers and internet porn are really, really (i am not joking) so cool/great that once they send the sleeper bastards here, they really do get addicted and want to go all in. they want a christmas tree and a new car and home and everything.
why blow all that because some towel head dude back where you came from sitting on a rug bumping his head on the floor tells you 'now is the time, do as you were told'.
that sucks. gettin' fat rocks. white chicks rock. dude, you are in. it really does work the 'american culture'.
Looks like there are 3 more peaceful Muslims. . .
Apparently no hostages as victims.
First report said two died in Vincennes kosher market, but it seems that maybe, maybe, nobody died.
Two assault policemen wounded.
Yep, its lookin good,
Godbless the Euro Union troops.
lol
And here I was considering vacation in Paris this year. Might need to rethink.
For all those that think this is a psy-op.. not sure I agree. Seems like fomented islamic rage.
Fomented by western greed for needed resources. So what's the diff?
Bullshit, the west can access and buy any resource it wants, if there's no money you print some.
they can, but they don't have to, anymore.
True, but if you want to take that view, they never had to pay, but they did, and still do.
Dunno. I'm still on the fence. I have a hard time believing that the CIA/Mossade/et al are the only douches on this planet. And I believe there is plenty of motivation for towel heads to pull stunts like these. I'm not down quite yet with the Alex Jones, knee-jerk, no flags-but-false-flags set. And at the end of the day, once you have Dealy Plaza & 911 halfway figured out, these other stunts are just boring sequels. That's my 2 cents.
It's been there for decades. Paris has large slum areas full of these guys. Remember the various riots over the years where hundreds of cars have been set ablaze. A Metro station that I used every day was bombed by some of these sob's 2 weeks after I had left Paris. It is very much a clash of cultures and I have always wondered why these people don't just leave France and return to N Africa.
re: I have always wondered why these people don't just leave France and return to N Africa.
answer: welfare
You might want to go over what Charles Martel did in 732 to stop the Isalmic invasion of what became France. Now, over a few decades, these characters have let them all back in. Idiotic.
All 3 gunmen are dead....
This still isn't over through..... where's the 26 year old woman?
Buying a new ID card
From mossad in the back room of the kosher bakery.
. . . . and there goes the TRUTH with it. . .
. . . now back to that Souffle.
They had about as much of a chance as Butch and Sundance.
Stop wasting our time with this fake reality tv story.
This is what happens when you refuse to recognize a threat from an enemy and KILL THEM!!!
Notice how mooslimes around the world aren't standing up for their religion? Aren't they giving their religion a bad name?
No! THIS IS I SLAM.
Everyone knows this was an Israeli/Mossad/CIA/Zio-Jew/French/American/Russian clandestine services/Algerian/Goldman Sachs plot to bring France and Russia to heel. Now do try and keep up.
proof #1: Sarkozy knew one of these guys
proof #2: Charb's ``wife'' was a former minister of Sarkozy
proof #3: algerian secret services have warned of an imminent attack
proof #4: Wolinsky was jewish (though I am not sure of his orthodoxy...)
proof #5: All these guys had a bank account (and you know who runs the banks, right)
proof #6: (I stall a bit for russians...)
proof #7: everything was finished on friday at 5pm local time, which means beyond any doubts french implication...
Its time you had a fresh croissant which would prove you're a good french man or woman and have got your appetite back.
I feel hungry all of a sudden.
Gee I feel good. Bad men killed. That poor kosher bakery.
<---- This was the predictable result for US/French support of Jihadists fighting in Syria, where these two brothers fought against the secular Syrian govt.
<---- This was the predictable result for US/French support of Jihadists fighting in Syria, where these two brothers fought against the secular Syrian govt.
Duplicate post, sorry
If I had a brother ...ah.. er.. He'd look like Amedi.
216 Virgins are getting somewhat nervous...
All with faces like smashed crab.
It doesn't specify what gender the virgins in the Koran!
Lets have an nice "Market" rally once the crisis across the pond is contained..... And bitch slap those pesky PMs
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GXUApnnsXSg