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The Road To War With Russia
Submitted by Chris Martenson via Peak Prosperity,
For several weeks now the anti-Russian stance in the US press has quieted down. Presumably because the political leadership has moved its attention on to other things, and the media flock has followed suit.
Have you read much about Ukraine and Russia recently?
I thought not, despite the fact that there's plenty of serious action -- both there as well as related activity in the US -- going on that deserves our careful attention.
As I recently wrote, the plunging oil price is a potential catalyst for stock market turmoil and sovereign instability. Venezuela is already circling the drain, and numerous other oil exporters are in deep trouble as they foolishly expanded their national budgets and social programs to match the price of oil; something that is easy to do on the way up and devilishly tricky on the way down.
But consider the impact on Russia. From the Russian point of view, everything from their plunging ruble to bitter sanctions to the falling price of oil are the fault of the US, either directly or indirectly. Whether that is fair or not is irrelevant; that's the view of the Russians right now. So no surprise, it doesn't dispose them towards much in the way of good-will towards the West generally, and the US specifically.
The fall in the price of oil is creating serious difficulties economically and financially for Russia. We'll get to those facets in a minute. But right now, I want to focus on the continued belligerence of the US towards Russia -- some of which is overt and some of which, you can be certain, is covert -- which could very well end up provoking a more kinetic and dangerous response than the West is prepared for.
Russia Forced To Act
Before anyone jumps in to say "Why are you defending Putin? He's a bad man", let me just say that I have been closely analyzing each move by Russia and the West since then President of Ukraine Yanukovych declined to sign the European Association Agreement back in November of 2013.
Based on the preponderance of evidence, its' clear to me that the West/US deserve the lion's share of the blame for the conflict that now rages with Ukraine and between Russia and the western world.
It was the West that supported the unsavory assortment of thugs, neo-Nazis, and ultra-nationalists that seized power in a coup from the democratically-elected Yanukovych. We can argue all we want about whether he was a good boy or not, but that's irrelevant and plays into the hands of those at the US State Department who would like to deflect attention away from the very non-democratic events (shaped behind the scenes by our influence) that led to his overthrow.
The US did the same thing with Saddam, if you recall. It's a simple deflection: away from the actions of the US, and towards the character of the person standing in the line of fire from those actions.
In my view, if Yanukovych had not been violently deposed, Ukraine would be peaceful right now, Russia would not have had to intervene, and there would be no civil war in Ukraine and far reduced tensions between the West and Russia.
So ham-handed were those efforts to intervene in Ukraine on the part of the Obama State department that no less an historically loathsome creature than Henry Kissinger even called the US's actions a 'fatal mistake':
Kissinger warns of West’s ‘fatal mistake’ that may lead to new Cold War
Nov 10, 2014
Former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger has given a chilling assessment of a new geopolitical situation taking shape amid the Ukrainian crisis, warning of a possible new Cold War and calling the West’s approach to the crisis a “fatal mistake.”
The 91-year-old diplomat characterized the tense relations as exhibiting the danger of “another Cold War.”
“This danger does exist and we can't ignore it,” Kissinger said. He warned that ignoring this danger any further may result in a “tragedy,” he told Germany’s Der Spiegel.
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When even Henry Kissinger thinks you've been too reckless in the application of raw power, you've over done it.
So given the timeline of the events that have led to the frostiest US-Russian relations since the depths of the cold war, I am of the view that Russia has been actually quite restrained and has not over reacted to any of the numerous provocations.
Despite the lull in front page reporting of the Russian situation, there remains a careful program of steady anti-Russian propaganda running through the western press.
It Takes Two To Tango
prop·a·gan·da
?präp???and?/
Noun - derogatory
Information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
For propaganda to work well, there needs to be tight coordination between the State and the press. The role of the press is to first publish the propaganda, and second, to neglect to look into it or report on anything that might call it into question. Sins of omission and commission are both required.
The good news is that the internet is a great equalizing force and we can readily unearth inconvenient facts with a little digging that blunt the propaganda. The bad news is that a lot of people still get all their news from so-called 'official' sources.
At any rate, here's a first-rate piece of unadulterated propaganda courtesy of Bloomberg. Note that it was printed on Dec 31, one of several very quiet news days where little debate is likely to happen:
Inside Obama’s Secret Outreach to Russia
Dec 31, 2014
President Barack Obama's administration has been working behind the scenes for months to forge a new working relationship with Russia, despite the fact that Russian President Vladimir Putin has shown little interest in repairing relations with Washington or halting his aggression in neighboring Ukraine.
In several conversations with Lavrov, Kerry has floated an offer to Russia that would pave the way for a partial release of some of the most onerous economic sanctions. Kerry’s conditions included Russia adhering to September's Minsk agreement and ceasing direct military support for the Ukrainian separatists.
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The tenor of this piece is set. It's the US that is trying to be reasonable, but Russia has shown little interest in repairing relations. That's one assertion.
Another is that Russia has been providing direct military support for the separatists in neighboring Ukraine. And yet another that Putin himself has shown little interest in halting his aggression.
That's the main narrative that the US wants to put forward. Putin is a bad guy. Like Saddam...remember him? The US is the one being reasonable here, according to this piece, and it'is Russia that has been fomenting the troubles.
The US narrative goes further, repeatedly claiming that Russia has been supplying major arms to the separatists, as we see here from early December 2014:
U.S. Says Russia Arms Ukraine Rebels, OSCE Wary on Truce
Dec 2, 2014
North Atlantic Treaty Organization Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg accused Russia of sending tanks, advanced air-defense systems and other heavy weapons across the border to Ukrainian rebels.
Russia denies involvement in the conflict.
“Since the Sept. 5 Minsk cease-fire agreement, Russia has funneled several hundred” tanks, armed personnel carriers, and other military vehicles directly to pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine, Kerry said.
Russian military forces still operate inside eastern Ukraine where they provide “command and control” for the separatists they back, he added.
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The charge from the Secretary General of NATO and from John Kerry of the US State department is that Russia has military forces inside Ukraine, and that they've funneled hundreds of tanks, APCs, and other military vehicles numbering in the hundreds.
As with the MH-17 disaster, we have to call this another case of the dog that did not bark.
Where are the pictures?
The sorts of weaponry being claimed here are impossible to conceal from the air.
Snapping high resolution photos of such things is child's play for today's military satellites, and even civilian ones, too.
Accusing a major world power of action this brash should require at least some demonstration of proof. Especially after the WMD warning fiasco that played out at the UN leading up to the Bush II Iraq invasion. The least you could do is provide a few pictures of said military vehicles and heavy weaponry.
But there are none. And the reason none have been offered is because none exist. If they did, you can be 100% certain they'd be released and replayed over and over again on CNN until everybody and their uncle could distinguish a T-72 tank outline from a Russian made APC.
About Those 'Unwilling' Russians
Let's look more closely at the reasons why Russia may not exactly be in a conciliatory mood towards the US at this moment in time.
With just our short-term memories, we can recall that the US Congress passed a serious piece of anti-Russian resolution last month that can easily be seen as a declaration of war by a reasonable person.
This unfortunate piece of legislation, H.Res. 758, was passed on December 4, 2014 and is titled "Strongly condemning the actions of the Russian Federation, under President Vladimir Putin, which has carried out a policy of aggression against neighboring countries aimed at political and economic domination."
Ron Paul expressed the problems with this resolution very well:
Reckless Congress 'Declares War' on Russia
Dec 4, 2014
These are the kinds of resolutions I have always watched closely in Congress, as what are billed as “harmless” statements of opinion often lead to sanctions and war. I remember in 1998 arguing strongly against the Iraq Liberation Act because, as I said at the time, I knew it would lead to war. I did not oppose the Act because I was an admirer of Saddam Hussein – just as now I am not an admirer of Putin or any foreign political leader – but rather because I knew then that another war against Iraq would not solve the problems and would probably make things worse. We all know what happened next.
That is why I can hardly believe they are getting away with it again, and this time with even higher stakes: provoking a war with Russia that could result in total destruction!
If anyone thinks I am exaggerating about how bad this resolution really is, let me just offer a few examples from the legislation itself:
The resolution (paragraph 3) accuses Russia of an invasion of Ukraine and condemns Russia’s violation of Ukrainian sovereignty. The statement is offered without any proof of such a thing. Surely with our sophisticated satellites that can read a license plate from space we should have video and pictures of this Russian invasion. None have been offered.
As to Russia’s violation of Ukrainian sovereignty, why isn’t it a violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty for the US to participate in the overthrow of that country’s elected government as it did in February? We have all heard the tapes of State Department officials plotting with the US Ambassador in Ukraine to overthrow the government. We heard US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland bragging that the US spent $5 billion on regime change in Ukraine. Why is that OK?
The resolution (paragraph 11) accuses the people in east Ukraine of holding “fraudulent and illegal elections” in November. Why is it that every time elections do not produce the results desired by the US government they are called “illegal” and “fraudulent”? Aren’t the people of eastern Ukraine allowed self-determination? Isn’t that a basic human right?
The resolution (paragraph 13) demands a withdrawal of Russia forces from Ukraine even though the US government has provided no evidence the Russian army was ever in Ukraine. This paragraph also urges the government in Kiev to resume military operations against the eastern regions seeking independence.
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If the tables were turned, and it was the Russian lawmakers passing a resolution condemning the US for a variety of illegal activities for which exactly zero proof was offered, I think we all know just how ablaze with indignity the US political leadership would be.
Think of this from Russia's perspective. They know perfectly well all of the things the Honorable Ron Paul speaks of are true. There was an illegal coup followed by legal elections. The US recognizes the former as legitimate but the latter as illegal, and then speaks loudly about the importance of spreading democracy.
Worse, the US keeps mandating that a key condition of lifting its anti-Russian sanctions is for Russia to leave Ukraine militarily and to stop shipping lots of heavy armaments there. But it has, as of today, provided exactly zero pieces of hard evidence to support those accusations.
As bad as this legislation was, the US Senate upped the ante just one week later on Dec 11, 2014 with Act, S.2828 The Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014:
US-NATO Delivering Arms to Ukraine. The Planning of Aggression against Russia
Dec 15, 2014
The Ukraine Freedom Support Act (UFSA) of 2014 authorizes lethal and non-lethal aid. Besides what’s already being supplied.
Including communications equipment. Body armor. Night vision goggles. Humvees. Radar. Counter-mortar detection units. Binoculars. Small boats. Various other gear.
Sniper and assault rifles. Hand grenade launchers. Mortars and shells. Stingers. Anti-tank missiles. What’s known may be the tip of the iceberg.
UFSA legislation “authoriz(ing) (Obama) to provide defense articles, defense services, and training to the Government of Ukraine for the purpose of countering offensive weapons and reestablishing the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine…”
“(I)ncluding anti-tank and anti-armor weapons, crew weapons and ammunition, counter-artillery radars to identify and target artillery batteries, fire control, range finder, and optical and guidance and control equipment, tactical troop-operated surveillance drones, and secure command and communications equipment.”
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After chiding Russia for supplying military aid, for which the US has provided no solid evidence in support of that claim, the US has passed an Act designed to funnel all sorts of military aid to the ruling powers in Kiev.
This could just as easily have been labeled the "Do As We Say, Not As We Do" Act. For some reason, the Russians are not too impressed with that approach.
Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said in response:
“Both houses of the US Congress have approved the Ukraine Freedom Support Act bypassing debates and proper voting. The overtly confrontational message of the new law cannot but evoke profound regret.”
“Once again Washington is leveling baseless sweeping accusations against Russia and threatening more sanctions. At the same time it is muddling together the Ukrainian and Syrian conflicts, which the United States has been instrumental in inflating. It even refers to the INF Treaty although American compliance with it is questionable, to put it mildly.
At the same time, it promises to Kiev to arm its military operation in Donbass and openly admits that it intends to use NGOs for an impact on Russia’s domestic processes.”
“Though it appears that major challenges to international security demand pooled Russian and American efforts, US legislators follow President Obama’s administration destroying the very foundation of partnership. Bilateral relations are being torpedoed no less powerfully than by the notorious Jackson-Vanik amendment, endorsed in 1974 to obstruct cooperation for several decades. We cannot but conclude that, blinded by outdated phobias, the United States is anxious to reverse time. As the US Congress instigates anti-Russian sanctions, it should part with the illusion of their effect. Russia will not be intimidated into giving up its interests and tolerating interference in its internal affairs.”
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The really bizarre part of this story is that I cannot yet find any credible analysis or commentary explaining exactly what the US's compelling interests are in Ukraine, nor what the end goal might be. It's all something of a mystery, compounded substantially by the fact that Russia can be a very powerful ally or enemy to have. Why not choose ally? Why choose enemy?
On the flip side, we have lots of compelling evidence that the US has a serious plan in place to weaken and destabilize Russia. The tactics we're using would certainly be considered acts of war by the US were the circumstances reversed.
As one Russian observer put it:
Both US Assistant-Secretary of State Victoria Nuland — the wife of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) co-founder and neo-conservative advocate for empire Robert Kagan — and US Assistant-Secretary of the Treasury Daniel Glaser told the Foreign Affairs Committee of the US House of Representatives in May 2014 that the objectives of the US economic sanctions strategy against the Russian Federation was not only to damage the trade ties and business between Russia and the EU, but to also bring about economic instability in Russia and to create currency instability and inflation. [5] In other words, the US government was targeting the Russian ruble for devaluation and the Russian economy for inflation since at least May 2014.
The United States is waging a fully fledged economic war against the Russian Federations and its national economy. Ultimately, all Russians are collectively the target. The economic sanctions are nothing more than economic warfare. If the crisis in Ukraine did not happen, another pretext would have been found for assaulting Russia.
Both US Assistant-Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and US Assistant-Secretary of the Treasury Daniel Glaser even told the Foreign Affairs Committee of the US House of Representatives in May 2014 that the ultimate objectives of the US economic sanctions against Russia are to make the Russian population so miserable and desperate that they would eventually demand that the Kremlin surrender to the US and bring about "political change". "Political change" can mean many things, but what it most probably implies here is regime change in Moscow.
In fact, the aims of the US do not even appear to be geared at coercing the Russian government to change its foreign policy, but to incite regime change in Moscow and to cripple the Russian Federation entirely through the instigation of internal divisions.
This is why maps of a divided Russia are being circulated by Radio Free Europe. [17]
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We Not On A Road To War, We've Already Arrived
If it looks like a war, acts like a war and smells like a war, it may just be a war. The US has been waging economic, financial, trade, political and even kinetic war-by-proxy against Russia. The only question is why?
From the perspective of Russians it seems clear that neocons are driving the US ship of state, and that they are simply not the sort of people with whom you negotiate in good faith or whom you trust. The neocons believe they have the upper hand, they are part of the most powerful country on earth, and they never negotiate preferring to dictate.
The only problem is, the US is rapidly losing allies and friends the world over and it's not nearly as powerful as it used to be, thanks to a profound failure to invest in itself (education, infrastructure, etc)
In Part 2: Why No One Should Want This To Devolve Further, we analyze the most likely responses the West's bear-baiting will generate from Russia. The short story is this: in none of the outcomes will there be clear victors.
There is simply no good rationale for the geo-political risks being taken right now. Leaving us with the critical question: Why are we willing to let our leaders play nuclear "Russian roulette", for stakes we don't agree with?
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I'm ready. Are you? BULLISH ON DRIED FOODS, BULLETS, AND GUNS. ( I don't own one but I'll buy equities.)
The Canadian government's state owned propaganda tv network, CBC, just aired a segment prime time tonight about Putin. Naturally they claimed he stole power, he is killing his opponents, has stolen billions and is get this.... "The Supreme Leader" of Russia now. They claim he wants to turn the country into North Korea style governance with himself at the top.
Holy fuck the Canadian government under Steven Harper is fucked up.
CBC, station for the wife beaters. Harper and Baird are behaving like lunatics.
CROSBY
OVECHKIN
Who is better russian or canadian
Crosby is such a pussy, he doesn't belong in contact sport.
CROSBY ...... PUSSY..... no my friend you want to see a real pussy that would be one Wayne Gretzky now that guy was a capital P pansy..... if it wasn't for all those goals he set up or scored and his ridiculously gentleman like style and all those cups he won I doubt very much he would have been able to set so many records ....... bloody pansy...... and for the galatically retarded set (/Sarc)
Canada will soon have it's day of reckoning when the oil collapse pops their housing bubble. Same as the UK. Russia isn't going away and harper is a globalist douche.
Canada is irrelevant. A spineless puppy that only knows how to wag its tail and parrot whatever the US does. It just had to pull itself into Iraq and Afghanistan even though it's never been attacked by anyone. Whenever we accuse Iran or Korea, every statement echoes back from the Rockies. When was the last time Canada did anything that didn't align with US interest? Anything! When did the bank of Canada do anything that didn't mimic the Fed?
When the US banks crashed they even copied the bailout. It was 1/10th of the US amount, but when adjusted per capita for Canada's 1/10 size population it ends up being exactly the same.
Didn't Canada's Mark Carney go to Britain to help out their banks? An ex GS man. Pfft!
As far as I'm concerned, Canada's not even a real country - just a hideout shack for closet neocons. And Steven Harper? Fuck him! The last guy - Jean Chretien, I really liked. He had a character. Don't really know what he was like a politician, but I liked him as a man. He made a good first impression and I trust my gut with this. Harper makes no impression whatsoever. When the world leaders meet, he's just there to stand next to someone and nod - like a backdrop extra in Obama's state of the union address.
Chretien also invented the Shawinigan Handshake! Yeah, he is a character. Also the only Prime Minister not completely bought and paid for in the the last 30 years.
To be fair, we did burn down your White House last time. I'd like to see real Americans try to one-up that!
Can't say we didn't try!
Funny how everything became superheated between Russia and the US only after our peace-maker Obama came into office, even more so in his second term. Obama has his progressive agenda and program spelled out for him and it's not in anyones best interest but the globalists.
What every happened to that Hitlery Cunton grand jesture of the Reset Button a few years ago - as a by the by that particular model is normally used for emergency stop functions but what the hell for a woman that has a hard time finding her ass with both hands (i know.... i know ) I cut her some slack on that one
"There ain't nuthin uglier than an old white woman." Fred Sanford
BIG MISTAKE there Mate. Piss Prize Winner no less
WWI was planned, WWII was planned, and WWIII is planned all by the same insane khazar clown posse who happen to do ponzi schemes as a sideline bit.
Indeed. I think the issue is that the clowns don't realize the size of the dragon who's tail they're tickling.
I see it as either they're trying to make something happen to cover up misdeeds, or that they've eaten too much of their own dogfood and believe their own lies. I don't think they've begun to grasp the unintended consequeces of this madness.
I'm really starting to believe that these Khazar Kocksucking Klowns are of an alien race who's task is to destroy planet earth within a given time period. Do they get stuck in the fire of their own creation?
You are not that far from the truth:
"I will make those who are of the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you." - Revelation 3:9
How long ago was that written? Hundreds of years before the khazar conversion, you couldn't make this up if you wanted to.
Before that...from the start..
try Genesis 10:3 for Son of Gomer, Nephew of Magog
family name, in use today, according to their tribes..
"War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small 'inside' group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes."
United States Marine Corps Major General Smedly Butler
Precisely, many do not believe this as they believe its pure fiction. Oh boy will they be wrong when they find out all of the information hidden on humanity's past.
if the ponzi scheme folds in the fog of war, the donkeys will blame Russia rather than focus their ire on the PNAC revolutionaries and their bankster bretheren.
Standard misdirection 101 for gangsta bankstas
This is where I think they're miscalculating. Both the Pols and their bankster bretheren could be making a mis-step that results in their incineration. There's a insane level of hubris in both DC and NY.
Those people are the "Useful Idiots."
Activation energy is a manipulator's friend.
pretty much seems to be the case.
They think that they are going to survive it in the deep underground military bases located throughout the US.
And if they are able to emerge and/or if they ever make it to the shelter, they inherit a world with a radioactive half life of 500,000,000 years.
They will not inherit anything more that the dirt that covers their dead bodies, and the occaional urinal steam of a well directed moment of relief.
"Then the kings of the earth and the great men and the commanders and the rich and the strong and every slave and free man hid themselves in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains; and they said to the mountains and to the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the presence of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; for the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?"" - Revelation 6:15-17
They (Zionists/Israel) know it will lead to WWIII, and they have already beefed up their missile shield (Iron dome anyone?) with the help from USA and other countries. Israel thinks it can start a WW3 to get all the big powers to destroy each other and come out unscathed itself.. Maybe they will and finally rule the world, as has been its ambition since its birth from WW2 (not by accident also I should say)
Exactly. That is why the Zionist bankers have been in such a hurry to suck out all the gold in the West and bring it to Israel.
I agree, You CANNOT have "HOLY ISRAEL" without Gold and Silver as its Money.
If there is going to be a war between the USA and Russia, I can confidently predict that the comments section at Zero Hedge will still be functioning down to the last word.
Neither side can afford a military confrontation on each other's soil. A bomb aimed at Russian atomic plants or Russian bombs aimed at the St Andreas fault line, are not zero sum games. They are negative sum games.
And both sides know that it won't be just atomic weapons, but also germ warfare which can get out of control of even the attacker.
Flattering to think the world reads ZH but Americans I think just aren't interested. As far as the USA goes we came here to get away from all that and we want to know where all the jobs are, why everything is so expensive, how come taxes and regulations are so high, why our crime rate is soaring, etc...
These are measurable things...these things are measured here...so far since 9/11 the USA gets a big fat F in my view.
Nobody even votes anymore. You think they're "gearing up for war with Russia"? I think that is ridiculous.
A population hard at work building America is a safe America. We have cheap energy, lots of land, food...
I just don't get it.
What's this "we" shit, motherfucker?
I come to ZH to try to get away from statist pricks like you.
There sre no statists in somalia.
Or statistics (you do know the difference right?)
Just saying, the plane flights are cheap at this time of year.
Russia has been modeling 'winnable' nuclear warfare for decades, so have we but we won't admit it. The biggest complicating factor - about 30,000 warheads, 28,000 more than you need - has been eliminated. Both sides are down to just a few thousand total warheads. This is when the planners get really hard between the legs, because they see the real possibility of actually using the warplans.
Working from the premise that power attracts psychopathy, there is literally no greater magnet than the power to level it all - surely the closest a single human can come to god-like power. Who knows how many pure psychopaths swim in these waters?
It doesn't matter what anyone thinks about the survivability of a nuclear war unless they have some direct say over the weapons' use.
Google "rods of god."
... the ultimate goal would be probably to dissolve the vast Russian territory in future and bring in power Western-friendly puppet regimes, in order not only to conquer the valuable resources, but also to impose permanently the neoliberal doctrine on "unexplored" regions and populations.
But Putin is doing such a good job already...
Western politicians condemn Putin for actions taken in the midst of crisis, in a system recognized by virtually all participants as at best 'quasi' democratic. In other words, reason and license to act with finality, which he did, in measure. The alternative would be to empower pro-western/anti sovereignty powers and allow unrestrained looting of the largest pool of natural wealth in the world. Some elite is always in charge, at least Putin's flavor seems to have some concern for average Russians - who are VASTLY better educated than Americans. Putin has something like 90% approval, and 98% of Russians hate Obama. They're WAY smarter than we are as a collective.
Who?
Oh, yeah. That guy.
Here's a simple formula for understanding America:
Mo money=we don't care.
He could have a 9000% percent approval rating. And I could get 9000 down votes. "Search your feelings! You know it to be true!"
We go to the movies to learn about ruling the world.
STAR WARS!
In Russia, there are two types of people, the very, very smart ones (mostly scientists) and then everyone else. Therefore, it is not true that the average russian is smarter then the average American. Mind you, this is not saying a lot because the public school system in the US, has a lot to be desired.
Strongly disagree.
Russia population is top percentage 54% completed higher education in world
Middle Class and age group Russians are highest educated of world..
Soviet gave serious education.
Russians can apply logic and reason, not TV educations
I checked a few web sites and several place Russia in the top 10 in terms of most educated ( if that means best educated, i do not know - in other words, maybe or maybe not).
However, when explaining the rankings, i also saw a common trend and that is expressed in this quote...
"Although Russia is ranked as the most educated country in the world, there are many reports that show the corruption in its education system such as selling doctorates to wealthy people and politicians, cheating on standardized tests, requiring bribes for admitting students and more."
TopCoder rankings are interesting to many..
http://community.topcoder.com/tc?module=AlgoRank
Russians are normally 20 to 30 of top 50
Tourist is now #1 He from Belarus, but school is SPB State
Petr was top longest time before..
many more chine recently
last I looked, more poles than americans
Note that almost never see any Russian University in Western Rankings.
Last I saw in one ranking top 200 of world, was only one Russian.
Which does not compute with real world results.
Tells something about honesty and accuracy of western sources.
I would also add, that the quality of journalism coming from Russian owned RT news is unrivalled in the West and presents more evidence and facts of current global events at the surface.
It is also, as you can imagine anti US, but not through jawboning as such, just mere facts with a tinge of agenda seeking! gradually bringing the people to support a potential conflict with the West.
Who gives a "fiddlers fuck" on Chris Matenson's predictions???.
Hey Chris!... Looky here brother?!!
The second to last Russian leader you will ever see to get fucked over royally with the most noble of intentions that's got a big surprise announcement for anyone in the U.S. military in uniform dumb enough to take orders for this one!
Won't be needing a "last will and testament" for the wife and kids when you stoke this one!
Petro-Dollar
The answer has several parts:
There are probably some others, but that's a start..
PTI,
Perhaps to re-establish the Ashkenazis to their economic and political control in Ukraine...remember they have made Hebrew the second offical language...
Do you have the Links - via News Agencies and via the UKR Govt?
I looked; and only found beforeitsnews spouting off.
thanks.
Re-establish the Khazarian empire in Ukriane is the only obvious motive in this WW3 be damned relentless attack on Russia. For that to work, Russia has to be weakened substantially via war and Ukraine destroyed. The Zionists are mad Russia has taken Crimea which was part of the Khazarian empire.
+100
I can't upvote you somehow, so here it is...
I could smell Kissinger's foul stench the moment I walked into this article!
A decent piece overall. The question Why is interesting. The reason the US has taken up an alliance with now open Nazis from West Ukraine is one I can't answer with certainty. It looks, from events, that the US move to fund and foment a fascist coup in Kiev, using open Nazis from Lvov in Galitica, is aimed at making Ukraine a NATO forward operating base to crush Russia from. Does that sound harsh? Does anyone think democracy and freedom are on the US agenda, when the Nazis were called in. Just a few days ago, in Kiev, thousands of Naziz marched, chanting for a war of destruction against Russia. Research the march, that is the only conclusion you can draw, it was a Hitler ralley in all but name. So take freedom and deomcracy out of any arguments for WHY the USA is deeply involved in Kiev.
Black Water is sending 500 trainers to Kiev, to train an experimental battlion of elite Ukrainian troops, drawing heavily from the nazi guard battlions already on the battle field. Kiev announced the call up of 200,000 men this spring.
Today a small scale assualt trying to break the rebel defense line north of Luhansk was beaten back. Leaving a burned out Ukrainian tank and ten dead Ukrainian soldiers, while Donetsk was under heavy artillery and rocket fire all day, 2 civilians dead at one site, and entire family blown away in another site. This is typical of any day of this cease fire.
This spring the US will have to decide if they are going to fund the sprig offensive to destroy Donetsk. Kiev is bankrupt, and needs America to fund this war, which it is doing already. Putin will not let the Donbass fall, he will aid the rebels with arms. But he will not allow the Donbass to leave the Ukraine either. Russia will NOT expand into Donbass, as Kiev claims. It is better policy to avoid getting into this war. But make no mistake, Russians are now openly accepting the idea that they will be at war with the USA very soon. No, Putin is not saying this, the rest of the establishment in Russia is saying it. War they think is being forced on them for if they surrender in Donbass, they believe the US will find another place to attack Russia. Hint! The Baltics.
I don´t have any sources in Ukie, but as you, I´m connected to Sweden, and Finland.
Swedes believe in all the shit Aftonbladet and Expressen write, sad but true.
Why these rags don´t write about the truth of the Ukie conflict, well we know who owns the media.
Finns will never trust Russkies for good reasons but I think they still have more common sense then most people in Europe.
Their pension fonds are looted for the common good for EURO, their jobs are gone for the common good of sanctions of their neighbours, the Finns are like Russians, a resilient bunch but I´m not sure they will swallow the BS much more.
Sweden, where I came as a 10 year old dirt poor kid, the country that always will be closest to my heart, except in motor sports, is as always in kind of wonder of what the fuck is going on with these crazy foreigners, they still don´t get it, until it hurts their wallet, then they will be smarter then the rest.
The welder PM is talking about increasing the budget for defence, from where?
100,000 arabs coming this year, that´s not cheap.
Sweden Democrats, fucking loonies and Israel ass kissers as they are, have scared the shit out of the monied elite so now we gonna have grand coalition that excludes the SD, what the fucking difference between the right and left escapes me, they both still think private schools and elderly care is great even if the schools are fucked and the elderly shit scared to end up in the private death rows.
Plan A was to use the new puppet Ukrainian government to cancel the military lease and "liberate" the Russian Sevastopol naval base in Crimea and repurpose it for their own use. That was a big fail.
Then Putin was supposed to launch a full on invasion of east Ukraine, and that did not materialize.
Plan B will be to get the Russians out of the Kalingrad military bases, so you are correct about the Baltics. All the NATO movements in Poland, Lithuania and Latvia are a warm up for that event. However, Russia knows it is coming and NATO are going to need a mighty big pretext for an invasion. I expect some Ukraine related or Baltic false flag is coming this year, you can smell it in the air.
these fools in Washington BC won't be happy till there is a mushroom cloud over our heads and the sad thing is it won't be Russia that delivers it but will be blamed for it!! see we are not all stupid and ignorant but what can we do but be prepared for the inevitable and just hope and pray for a very different ending to this stupid story
the day I see a mushroom cloud over DC, I am going to start a month long party.
Given the fact that these Khazarian clowns will do anything to further their ambition, I would not be surprised if they nuke the white house to start a war with Russia. If you think this is too far fetch then explain 9/11 and MH17. These people are ruthless and have no regard for human lives.
Any direct confrontation between USSA and Russia will almost immediately go nuclear, and be assured that USSA will be the first to launch. Russia can sink USSA naval platforms at will. USSA has no defense against Russian antiship missile technology.
USSA knows that any direct provocation will quickly result in a global thermonuclear exchange.
It wouldn't surprise me, if Russia is sufficiently provoked in Donbass, for them to use tactical nukes on various military concentrations in Europe. Or to do an EMP attack to knock out the electric grid.
Of course, from the tactical devices, it's just a short hop (in military thinking) to the strategic ones.
There is one ray of hope in the average Ukrainians that they call up and try to conscript. Most of these Ukie men know it is all a lie. They know the other side, their eastern brothers, treat them better than the scum in Kiev.
Here is the Prime Minister of Donbas (DPR) Zakarchenko telling the Ukies they are free to go home but do not come back and fight. They have fed them, clothed them and let them call their families. These poor Ukrainians know it is all a lie. The Ukie conscripts get junk weaponry. They quit and hand over their tanks or they are destroyed. They don't want to fight their eastern brother Ukrainians. The few that do want to fight get destroyed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qJU0pL-WoE
Now will the cowardly Azov nazi batallion leave Kiev to fight? Doubtful because they are cowards.
So who is going to fight a ground war in the Ukraine? USA? Poles?
Well the Preident of Chechnya is a huge Putin fan. Russia helped rebuild Chechnya, Putin met with the supreme Islamic leader and Putin and Russia are well liked in chechnya. The President of Chechnya offered to provide 20,000 volunteer soldiers (battle hardend). All Putin had to do is say the word.
These guys are like a caucus version of Gurkas. During that scuffle in Georgia (another NGO op), about 100+ Chechen volunteers showed up. The Georgians fled in terror because these Chechen guys are brutal. So if the Nazi Azov battalion ever comes to the front - they will be destroyed.
So I do not see any way that the Ukraine can field an army.
Givi was interviewed and he said the people of the Ukraine want him and his comrades tocome and kick out the Ukies and liberate them. Givi said - be patient, wait for us, we are coming (to liberate you). Supposedly, he and Motorola got many write in votes during the last Ukrainain election.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUgSMF2pQHM
Pretty much every battle the Ukrainians have had in Donbas has been a rout.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/entire-ukraine-military-brigade-abandons-th...
These kids in the Ukriane know they are being used and lied to.
My American Friends: If one day soon, your portable electonics go dead, and you look into the distance and spy a large mushroom cloud, just remember that you asked for it.
I suppose you didn't really want a nuclear war, but the large majority of Americans, including those posting the odd anti-Nuland, anti-Khazar rant at ZH, did nothing substantial to resist their leadership's lies and aggression.
So, don't think of mushroom clouds as harbingers of doom, just think of them as "justice flowers".
The non-gullible in America do talk but it’s no longer enough just to talk to preserve freedom.
Only yesterday Obama appointed David Cohen as deputy director of the CIA. He’s the warmongering architect of “Obama's” economic sanctions against Russia, Iran and North Korea. He also was the AIPAC-vetted appointee running the U.S. Treasury’s key division on Terrorism and Financial Intelligence.
Unfortunately, DC is overrun with AIPAC’s Cohens, the people who operate the US as a war machine for these Masters of the Universe, crushing all innocents who get in their way to world conquest. These people care nothing about the world’s war dead, in America or abroad. Theirs is the viewpoint of one of the world's most prolific mass murderers, Joseph Stalin:
"You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs." Those "eggs" were and are the heads of men, women and children, and those "few" are merely tens of millions.
The DC Bolsheviks have not changed their colors or goals. They still are red.
As for the non-gullible, Paul Craig Roberts writes in his article “Charlie Hebdo and Tsarnaev’s Trail: Qui bono?” that “a poll of Bostonians last July found that 42 percent harbored doubts about the official version of events. http://www.globalresearch.ca/four-in-ten-bostonians-skeptical-of-official-marathon-bombing-account/5390848
Says Roberts:
“The gullible always say that if a conspiracy existed someone would have talked. But people do talk. It just doesn’t do any good. For example, during George W. Bush’s first term a NSA whistleblower leaked to the New York Times that the NSA was bypassing the FISA Court and spying on American citizens without warrants. Under US law, NSA was in a conspiracy with the Bush regime to commit serious felonies (possibly for the purpose of blackmail), but the New York Times spiked the story for one year until George W. Bush was re-elected and the regime had time to ex post facto legalize the felonies.
“Operation Gladio was a conspiracy kept secret for decades until a President of Italy revealed it.
The Northwoods Project was kept secret until years afterward when the second Kennedy Commission revealed it.
More than one hundred first responder police and firemen report hearing and personally experiencing multiple explosions floor by floor and even in the sub-basements of the World Trade Center twin towers, and these testimonies had no effect whatsoever.
It only took one high school physics professor to shoot down NIST’s account of the collapse of WTC 7. The fact that it has been conclusively proven that this building was brought down by controlled demolition has had no effect on the official story.
“The co-chairmen and legal counsel of the 9/11 Commission published books in which they say that information was withheld from the Commission, that the US Military lied to the Commission, and that the Commission “was set up to fail.” Neither Congress, the media, nor the US public had any interest in investigating why information was withheld, why the military lied, and why the Commission was set up to fail. These extraordinary statements by the leaders of the official investigation had no impact whatsoever.”
And still:
“Even today a majority of the US population believes Washington’s propaganda that Russia invaded Ukraine and annexed some provinces. Neither judgment nor intelligence are strong points of the American public and juries."
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/01/08/charlie-hebdo-tsarnaevs-trial-qui-bono/
Greetings Professor Falken
A strange game.
The only winning move is NOT TO PLAY.
how could it be anything other? don't think anybody on either side see a "gentlemen's war " .
seroton, If that was the case Putin could have moved units into Libya, Syria and now Ukraine and just by being there protected them from the west air assaults, drones and bombs. Russian ground forces would be hit and Putin would not be able to hid that his tail is behind his legs.
Putin will continue to watch as allies are destroyed and to back up to within the borders of Russia. NATO will complete the missile bases around Russia while the econimic war does it's work. Political turmoil will occur and the new heads of Russia will resemble the elite jew Putin pardoned and the rich jew Putin directed to only be sentenced to house arrest. Those actions show Putin is not calling the shots now or is afraid to upset the wrong people. In fact Putin came out and publicly stated that due to the pardon that the jew billionare is allowed to run for any public office.
Putin is trying to negotiate a place at the table for himself and other Russian elites (or safe passage) during and after the dismantling of Russia.
If what you say is true, and Vladimir Putin is in fact Jewish, then the Tribe is truly beginning to eat its own tail.
What happens when a parasite extracts all available nutrients from its host?
The parasite seeks a new host.
Go fuck yourself.
You misread that part of my post. Putin is not jewish but pardoned one elite jew and allowed another to get away with house arrest. Because the jewish elite in Russia are major trouble for him, and by pardoning the elite jew (instead of just freeing him) he made the elite jew qualified for any public office. Putin cleared the path for that person.
Both sides have been running simulated algo based nuke warfare, at the beginning the results concluded rightfully so total annihilation AKA MAD, but now tac nukes and smaller more targeted payloads have allowed clear winnable strategy based tac nuke warfare + multi platform delivery.
The USSA wont go first, they will both go hot and at the same time, hence both zones with be neutralized not annihilated. This is not bs. With a few sub ICBMs floating around to hit non friendly countries, both sides will be launching final payloads sending humanity back to the caves.
The question is wtf does China then DO? Because the clear winner will be the isolationist China.
All this talk is just BS, until the corrupt criminal bankers, politicians, governments and corporations are called out for enslaving the entire population, expect a life just above that of the 7th circle of hell.
You think in a nuclear war, only the US and Russia will be playing ? US will attack China at the same time. China will send a few to Japan to destroy its enriched nuclear fuel. Pakistan will send a few to India and Israel for good measures. Everyone will try to settle old scores.
The Southern hemisphere is a good place to hide out.
Now's a good time to check out Ecuador:
http://yourescapetoecuador.com/relocation/making-the-move-to-ecuador/
"(shaped behind the scenes by our influence)"
Let's be clear. There is no "our" or "we" as though the US was a Constitutional Republic. THEY DID IT. The domestic enemies of a Constitutional Republic. There is no "we" anymore as if there ever was.
The owners of Corporate USA are doing all of this and it has nothing to do with us, with the possible exception that ordinary Americans and other ordinary people around the world might be incinerated in a nuclear holocaust because of these megalomaniac psychopaths.
Of course it's To cover up the biggest Ponzi Fraud in the Universe, had ever known.
I am curious what the history books will say after it is over. :)
Who will the AXIS of Evil point to?
What will countries be like, will real governments come about which take citizens concerns to account or will leaders still do their own thing?
Will they finally outlaw nukes and wmds?
Will the world finally find peace?
"The victor will never be asked if he told the truth." Adolph Hitler
This is very similar ugly vendetta as when they went after Germany.
Same as today, many spoke against...
"Count Your Dead" They Are Alive Wydham Lewis 1937
If it goes WMD then:
Nothing. There will be nobody left to write them.
Nobody. There will be no Axis of Evil left.
There won't be countries.
There will be no they.
Yes.
it doesn't dispose them towards much in the way of good-will towards the West generally, and the US specifically"
Most of the population of the world sees the NWO as the enemy to future survival on this planet. When they lose the power of fiat expect them to be hammered no less than Germany at the end of WWII.
The next move is the nuclear power plant in Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfvLZW3N9R8
Has ANYONE here heard anything else about this? I've heard nothing. Only this single source.
I also found another story that the reactor is using control rods that weren't designed to fit in the reactor. I do not have link to that though :C
If they simply turn Ukraine into the fucking Zone from STALKER, and this time, I mean a lot bigger Zone than the current Chernobyl Exclusion Zone, well then thats the sort of thing that might make everybody step back and go ... hrmm...
Think about it. How ridiculous is the alternative?
We know they lied about Fukushima. We know that today, most people do not realize it's just been leaking radioactive waste, since the disaster, to this very day. They would lie about this.
So, intentionally sabotage a nuclear power plant, hopefully trigger a meltdown?
Sure hope nobody claims an actual offensive nuclear strike occured.
More here; https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=hts&oq=&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGNI_enUS530US542&q=Radiation+leak+at+Zaporozhye+nuclear+plant
'jimstonefreelance' has done in depth reporting on Fukushima but nothing on Zaporozhye
if this is about trying to use westinghouse fuel rods in soviet reactors, well it kinda sorta works until it doesn't, then it goes bad quickly
http://rt.com/news/159848-ukraine-nuclear-deal-westinghouse/
http://rt.com/news/183248-nuclear-ukraine-threat-osce/
basically, they tried it when the previous us puppet was in power, it didn't work they banned it and now the new us puppet wants to try it because someone slipped him a bundle of unmarked bills.
If you go to open secrets you can see they payed lobbyists for the support ukraine bills.
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/firmbills.php?id=D000000384&year=2014
for just 520,000 usd untold thousands can get free toshiba westinghouse cancers.
As reported here:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-03/accident-took-place-ukraine-nuc...
and here:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-12-28/ukraines-largest-nuclear-power-...
Those who refuse to think about their choice of a god, may die for the glory of an Obama, or the glory of a McCain or glory of a Graham, or the glory of a pack of lies called America. Is there nobility in stupidity? Or, in believing lies? Is there nobility in trusting your leaders? Or trusting your media?
Will you live and die for a morality presented to you by psychopaths? Their god is not dead, he never existed. This is think or die.
My gut feeling is something big is about to come up in Ukraine given what's happening in France as a pure distraction for the masses.
Given the satellite photo's that Russia produces daily, it's hard to believe that the Ukraine could be up to something militarily.
OTOH, what Poroshenko could do to improve the Ukrainian image in the West would be Ukrainian version of Die Nacht der Langen Messer. With the Ukie nazis at the receiving end.
Based on the Russian {point of view} the Russians are saying "fuck you" This time the Germans are on Russia's side.
World War 1 style.
What?!? Dude you are so drunk.
"This time the Germans are on Russia's side." - Yen Cross
Sorry "Yen Cross" your info is incorrect. The German people and their politicians are more and more against Russia. I heard that the point at which Merkel finally gave up on trying to reason with Putin, was when they met in Australia.
Large part Germans have no use for Merkel.
Swabians especially want her kicked.
The German opinion polls are also shifting against Russia
Show some...
no, just find one that is not elite controlled...owned
Bankers, bureaucrats and other leeches
vs Business, workers and people who they suck off of...
Germany and Russia have much in common.
Germans generally like Russian people. It is more Poles that have problem..
There is much German in Russia.
I guess FJF is still looking for some polls to back up his denial.
My feeling is that Merkel was turned when it was pointed out publically that the NSA had tapped her phone.
The NSA never did reveal what they had gotten her saying, but I'll bet you dollars to donuts the NSA is 'schwartzposting' Frau Merkel into her tough stance. Sama same with Hollande and the Mistral copter carrier.
And it's mighty coincidental that "Je suis Charlie" happened exactly when Hollande was moving away from US/EU toward rapprochement with Russia.
But you have to be a 'false flag' nut to believe that.
Excellent piece without question. Dangerville is the operative term where with Dick Cheney's spawn running the FP freakshow. What a travesty.
Why?
The obvious and admitted plan for Mideast and petrodollar agression/invasion/control is touted as a steppingstone to an "American Century" of global dominance.
The Pentagon plan for full-spectrum dominance is for full economic/political/communtications/space etc. as necessary for what is defined as a full-spectrum military global dominance.
That means domination/control of Russia & China to begin with as the leading "threats" to, not America, but to American global domination.
The insatiable drive to monopoly control of resouces, markets, and finances is to be expected when politics are ruled and bought to serve the one-dimensional interests of global corporations and the oligarchs who head them.
Yeah that full spectrum bullshit they keep peddling. How is that POS F-35 working out? How about letting it go full spectrum in some air space with S-400 anti aircraft missiles.
Oh and send a carrier task force until a carrier takes a full spectrum Russian P-800 Yakhont Sunburn antiship missile.
The Pentagon and MIC do not want a real war because the world might find out their weaponry is no longer top of the line. A lot of it is junk. The US military has been ground into the dirt with BS phony wars.
Anyone dumb enough to fight for these criminals needs their head examined. Don't worry - they will give you a dog when your legs get blown off and some tickets to a ball game.
And the Pentagon can see how officers are treated when they step out of line douchebag General Betrayus. They gave him a cushy job and now they want to prosecute him. The USA is like a third world country and is getting worse by the day.
I am not anti-America but these endless Orwellian war bullshit is getting old.
Generally good article,although the assertion that "Nazis" and "Nationalist" took over the Ukraine is false - Zio Jews are not Nazis or Nationalist - where is Ukraines gold now, Tel Aviv ? The USSA apparently thinks it can force a coup in Russia by threatening a real war with Russia - something is up - CiA has a stooge in the Russian heirarchy in position to replace Putin if Putin doesn't play his cards correctly - but he is a excellent card player. Myself, I hope Russia swarms into the Balitic and Poland (Polaks NEVER learn), crushes NATO puppet armies and dares the USSA to start a nuc war over the issue, that would be very interesting.
Putin has trouble within Russia, that is why he pardoned on elite jew and had another sentenced to just house detention (which the jew ignored).
Putin (that dog don't fight) forced EUkraine to accept a cease fire just when they were set to destroy key WUkraine units. The EUkraine leader called this a betrayal by Putin. Now the US/Israel is preparing to launch the WUkraine army with deadly force, and Putin will just watch.
"I hope Russia swarms into the Balitic"
Has Baltic states invaded Russia? No! You want Russia to invade Baltic states because those small countries- dares to critisize Putin regime - something that is not allowed in Russia.
You are a Nazi, you have Nazi thinking. Attack & destroy any opposing nation that doesn't approve oppresion.
you crack me up.
Nazi? Can you even define nazi without cut and paste?
last I knew Latvians was sorta have a lot of that, but not Russians
You are very confused...
as much ones imagine themselves SS (supposedly banned in Germany, and some Europe,
but now kept secret for certain purposes)
Russia will not go anywhere if not bothered.
President Putin has said so many times.
Only liars tell otherwise.
"Yanukovych declined to sign the European Association Agreement back in November of 2013. "
Yanukovych was a typical pillaging oligarch in the fashion of Putin.
The maority of the population supported joining the European Association.
He was kicked out of office, causing his sponsor Putin to have convulsions.
The majority of the population supported Yankovych when he was legally elected.
The majority Ukrainian nationals prefer him compared to the triple citizens sitting Kiev now.
Can you prove that.....i doubt it.
More than you can prove otherwise from msm lies.
I keep up with some friends that have relatives as far as west of Kyiv.
No Ukrainian family I know of Kiev and even west support Kiev. They want them kicked.
Now, west of Kiev the pollack crazies are not rational on what they want...
except they brainwashed useful idiots to hate and kill Russians and anything Russian.
From Kiev to other direction is all kinds and views...
Kharkiv, Odessa and other SE are large majority against Kiev.
Most people very afraid to speak cos of Pravy Sektor retaliations.
You have no idea of their criminality and intimidations.
Have you ever heard of the expression - birds of a feather stick together?
I am not doubting that you know people who have the same view point as you. However, even if you are the best known person in the Ukraine (which i doubt, but for argument sake, say that it is correct), you still know a very small percentage of the population.
May i suggest this to you.......buy 5 newspapers.....one left wing, one right wing, etc. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
Here is Ukraine's Minister of Defense:
The Kevan mothers must be tickled pink that Ukraine has re instituted the draft. That's what mothers do. They love to see their sons march off to war. Especially with all the latest methods of slaughter the West employs today. Drones, cluster bombs, Willy Pete, DU.
And if they're very lucky they'll see a youtube of some hideous chemical weapon blow up in their son's face.
Yes, the Ukrainians are so much better off hooked up with the West. They already got billions in return for tossing out Yanukovych.
You idiot. They have to conscripts by force. When the Ukie kids get out in the field they end up surrendering because they get treated better by the people in Donbas versus the vermin in Kiev.
Kiev keeps calling up conscripts because the kids surrender or get killed. Kiev will NEVER defeat people like Givi, Motorola, Mozgovi or Zakarchenko.
Ukrainian mothera against conscription:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfRC3WZZIuc
Zakarchemko releasing Ukrainain soldiers and treating them humanely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qJU0pL-WoE
Acyuall, he won by a plurality with 48.95% of the vote.
Think about it, fool.
Yanukovych never ordered the same pathetic army fighting in Donbas now into the Maidan then. Or water cannon on those subzero nights.
Why didn't he, fool?
Because Putin wanted the Ukrainian coup to succeed. And he wanted the coup to succeed so that the Crimeans could have a referendum 3 weeks later and Russia could annex Crimea a week after that.
Russia wanted repossess Crimea not possess the remnants of the 3rd Reich. Russia would have no control over future Ukranian elections, BUT NOW THEY HAVE CRIMEA IN PERPERTUITY.
Back to kindergarten history for you.
bid the soldier
Instead of your made-up "kindergarten history",
how about considering what actually happened?
Yanukovych was being lambasted (hypocritically) by the West and its media for being too harsh on the protestors.
Among other reasons, Putin did not want to take over a debt-ridden Ukraine.
Putin thought (quite mistakenly) that a reasonable solution to the popular unrest in Ukraine could be peaceably worked out with the US and especially the EU.
In fact, Yanukovych agreed Feb 21 to reduced powers, stepping down and holding early elections.
That agreement was mediated by Russia, France, Germany, and Poland,
AND WOULD NOT HAVE INVOLVED ANY PARTITIONING OF UKRAINE,
But that agreement was not good enough for the (f***-the-EU) US-CIA-Nuland backed extremists who seized power in a localized coup based in Kiev, and then attempted to enforce their rule over other regions which did not support the coup.
So then it's settled.
Putin had no influence on Yanukovych on the matter. He was more concerned about what the West thought. Propped up right next door to Putin and Russia, he trembled at being "lambasted" by the hypocritical West.
And when Snowden ran, he carried no intelligence about Nuland, her $5 billion, and any plans the US/EU had to remove Ukraine from Russia's orbit. All that was developed and put into action after Snowden appeared in Hong Kong in May.
("Oh it's a long, long time from May to December. And the schemes gets better when you reach September.")
Yanukovych (and Putin) knew in December he would never win another election in Ukraine again. You must have been the only Nobel Laureate in History to think that he was a shoe-in the following May.
PUTIN CONVINCED HIM TO GIVE UP 2 MONTHS OF RULE.
You didn't even read what I wrote. Putin, through Yanukovych, let the coup succeed, because PUTIN WANTED CRIMEA AND NOT UKRAINE. RUSSIA GOT THE ADDED BENEFIT OF THE EU/NATO SADDLED WITH THE ECONOMIC NIGHTMARE AND MONEY PIT THAT IS UKRAINE.
No, my friend, Snowden must have brought with him information that EU/NATO was about to do to Ukraine what it did to Georgia, Kosovo, Moldavia, etc. They were going to tighten the Patriot Missile Shield around Russia by moving missiles into Ukraine and threaten the Russian naval bases in Crimea with more NATO bases.
There were many FSB agents in Kiev at the time. HOW ELSE WAS DIRECTOR OF THE CIA JOHN BRENNAN SPOTTED AND PHOTOGRAPHED IN THE MAIDAN?
I know it's difficult to grock this, but Putin is running circles around the US now. Remember what Sun Tzu said about two adversaries fighting.
What does rwe2late say about that?
Yanukovych is mild compared to those in power now.
Obvious you know nothing about the clans, and how the worst operate.
He never sent military against citizens.
Majority Ukraine wish he was never overthrown.
Ukraine has never been a sovereign nation
but now is more corrupted, failed than ever and killing its own citizens.
There are signs that Ukraine's new president, Petro Poroshenko, is helping to restore the trust that was sorely lacking in the country's leadership before the revolution earlier this year. Nearly half of Ukrainians (47%) approve of the job that Poroshenko has been doing since winning the presidency in May -- a vast improvement over the 28% who approved of his predecessor Viktor Yanukovych's job performance before he was ousted.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/180233/ukrainians-approve-new-president.aspx
western polls, as financial ratings, publications and such have not connection to reality.
Is one big big circle jerk...
Apparently you know nothing about Poroshenko.(Walzman)
or the other criminal families.
Please enlighten us........where do you get your information. .......from Pravda???
http://www.spiegel.de
Seriously, a simple google search can work wonders.
WHY ? why would the BANKS want war
Think about it
Ignore all the bullshit and figure out who profits from War
Paul Craig Roberts discusses Russia and Black Swans; http://kingworldnews.com/paul-craig-roberts-russia-unleash-ultimate-black-swan-west/
Chris Martenson is seemingly a supporter of which ever kleptrocrat is the current ruler of any economy. No matter the restrictions on speech and persecution of opposition, any attempt to remove that monster is somehow a Western Evil. It WAS Russia which attacked Crimea. It has been Russia which invaded parts of Ukraine.
Putin has asperations of being Peter the Great. He has no interest in the welfare of the Russian people or their prosperity.
There must be a missing part of Martenson's heart since Saddam was eliminated in Iraq or Nicolae Ceauescu from Romania.
How many died in that evil attack by Russia against Crimea?
It must have been the evil Russians that attacked the trades union building in Odessa.
And murdered evil pregnant women with telephone cords?
If you look carefully, you will se that they are Ukrainian-Nazi's sent by Kiev, paid for by USA. Every move Putin has made has been a defensive move. Why are America attacking, same reason as they attacked Iraq and Libya, to save the 'petrodollar'! Russia along with China and other countries, Iran, Syria as well as BRIC's want out of the petrodollar, they are setting up a Eurasian-Zone, similar to EU and US don't like it, as it challenges their authority as the reserve curency!
Why don't they place sanctions on China? Because China have just overtaken USA as the worlds biggest economy, (3years earlier than predicted) and secondly, China own so much US debt (Treasury Bonds) they can bankrupt them overnight! http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-and-politics/2014/12/paul-craig-rober...
PS: Putin annexed Crimea, under Atricle 1 UN convention, he didn't invade. If he hadn't, all those people would be dead now, as they are against the Nazi regime in Kiev, which is why US don't recognise their vote.
Another little story the western press don't tell, USS Donald Cook, entered the Black Sea, Russia saw this as a threat and sent up an unarmed plane. Now the Donald Cook has the AEGIS System, but the Russian plane was allowed to 'straffe' it 12 times, as their AEGIS was 'disarmed'. Apparently, all the seamen resigned?
http://b4in.info/pizC Boys and their toys eh?
Crimea seceded.
Asked to rejoin Russia
They seceded at gunpoint!!!!! First, Russians (or Russian backed) militants take over the Parliament and then they hold sham elections (eg. no dissenting views allowed, Russian vigilantes at polling stations). Maybe that's ok in Russia but the rest of the world realizes the con game that was perpetuated there.
Putin regime used same tactics as in USSR times. Nothing has changed in their way of thinking. Only now Putin regime also uses new tehnologies for spreadin it's propoganda lies.
Seems you describe Kiev criminals
not what happened in Crimea
Fact is, Crimeans very happy and rebuilding what Ukr never maintained since independence
pensions increase, etc..
While "Red" Kiev oligarchs manage over loot country and kill citizens,
with more depradations as time pass.
Your opinion is corrupt.
Crimeans voted.
Away from crimes of Maidan and illegal takeover
Crimea seceded
Asked rejoin Russia
Done Crimeans happy happy
maybe not a few Tatars, the less civilized...those whose ancestors main business
was raid Ukraine territories and market for slaves and women into harems...
Russia stopped that and brought civilzation.
Russia.....a civilized country......that's very funny!!!!!! It's a country that has used fear, intimidation, bribery for eons. These are not characteristics of a civilized country.
They have never been civil.....not under the tzars, not under communism, and not under post communism. The majority of the people who are invaded by them (and yes, Crimea was an invasion ) hate them.
Even those happy Crimeans who are gullible to think that Russia is their saviour, will not be happy when they realize that Russia cannot even help their own, let alone newly acquired territory (Crimea ). Russia has economic problems and the problems are going to get bigger - eg. high inflation, burning through large amounts of reserves to support their currency, and less monry for social programs because of less money in the budget due to lower oil prices and plans to increase military spending. Due to these factors, Crimea will be at the bottom of the pecking order when it comes to assistance and will receive little or no help from Russia.
Useless talkings
Russia did overcome the Tatars and freed Ukraine territories from slavery.
Russian Tatars were included sooner, and normal citizens.
Businesses, and many Bankers. Head of Russian Central Bank is Tatar Heritage
Russia great history and culture.
Ukraine has never been a sovereign nation
better worry about your own country.
You can blow me now.
... what if they declared nuclear war and nobody showed up? ... (hint: all would be obliterated)
... here's the current global summary ...
... Pacifists: Peace On Earth ... Monsanto: Peas On Earth ... NATO: Piss On Earth ...
... here's the current global summary ...
UPDATE:
Mohammidans: Subject the Earth.
Actually the USA might set up a false flag attempt on the FED (remember the Pentagon?) as a result of which all records will be destroyed thus making any audit impossible and any repayment by the JP's and Goldman Sachs impossible as well.
that idea is so ridiculous, you might be right.
And blame it on the German anti-FED "terrizz" groups? That's pretty much a freebie right there. Damn...
Is Obama a neocon? The monkey's name was not mentioned once.
who knows ? but, he sure is the best "house boy" kleptocrat money can buy.
Who is that ?
So many Putinista trolls, amazing. Putin has destroyed his own nation in less than a heartbeat. Just a year ago, he had taken Ukraine by stealth, but the corruption was so great, Ukrainians expeled his man. Yanukovich had amassed almost as much treasure from the people as Putin.
Obama is so weak, Putin looked good for a brief shining moment. But the truth is, he is a small mediocre KGB agent, who will soon pass from this scene.
This article must be subsidized by RT, or whatever new logo has been established by the new KGB... LOL
so you are the one sucking the faggot monkey cock right now.
Whats it like swallowing monkey jizz
BS
"Just a year ago, he [Putin] had taken Ukraine by stealth..."
Ooh. That must be why nobody witnessed it and why there's no evidence of it.
I wondered if there would be an article about Russia this week. Pretty quiet in the MSM.
The Empire must realize it is losing the war, they've toned down the rhetoric so they don't look so stupid.
in late 2009 or early 2010, I had a theory that made sense.
Sometime in the 1980's the US military realized there were only 20, 30 50, 75 years of oil in the ground, and it was necessary that the military had to requisition, confiscate and seize all the oil still underground that was commandeerable. Russia's would not be easy, but Iran's and Venezuela's, like Iraq's in 2003, would present little problems.
Greenspan and the Fed were enlisted to create a world wide recession which would create a severe decline in demand, which in turn would send prices lower.
The low prices today are logical as the US controls Saudi behavior and have ordered these extremely low prices to help their European allies out of the recession that the Fed's destruction of the global economy wrought. In addition to the half price of a barrel of oil, the Saudis gave the Western Europeans a $1.25 discount on each barrel.
This war with Russia you allude to has been a stealthy one since 2007 when the Patriot Missile Shield installation began. President Putin had watched its advance since 2002. And in 2008 when his second term ended, he was overseeing the Russian long term responses from the office of the Prime Minister. Medvedev's entreaties to join with NATO in the missile shield or to see whether the equipment was aimed at Russia or to have NATO sign a document that it was not aimed at Russia, were all dismissed out of hand.
trust but DO NOT verify
On March 26, 2012 Obama spoke into a open mike (a lie that he didn't know it was open) that flexibility was coming in November with his second term (another lie.)
Putin's 3rd term began on May 6, 2012 and clearly he had had enough of the US Tar Baby president. His term opened a couple of days before when the Russian Chief of General Staff announced to the world that
"Gen. Nikolai Makarov warned of a pre-emptive strike on launch sites if a compromise over a defense shield in Europe is not reached."
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/05/world/europe/russia-us-missile-defense/
The West caved and did not supply advanced missiles to Poland. NATO made that announcement many months after Makarov's so they would not look like they were caving.
And Vladimir Putin, it appeared wasn't wasting his time in the years between his second and third terms
On November 6, 2012 Sergey Shoygu was appointed Minister of Defense and 3 days later Putin retired General Makarov, who was replaced by a new Chief of General Staff, Gen Valery Gerasimov.
Late in 2012 or early in 2013 an American citizen who worked at the US Embassy in Moscow and on vacation abroad was denied reentry to Russia.
In mid May Ryan Fogle was arrested trying to recruit a Russian agent to work for the CIA. If you haven't seen the pix of Fogle
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325318/Ryan-Fogle-second-covert...
And then this item appeard "A Russian security services operative has gone on state television to claim that the US diplomat ordered out of the country was the second American expelled this year over spying allegations."
Winston Smith, now employed by google has 'memory holed' all other references to the first American expelled.
Finally on May 17, 2013 the CIA Station Chief in Moscow was publicly outed under the name "Steven Hall" (the name I saw that summer was different). It's never good to have your Chief of Station publically identified.
On May 20, 2013 Edward Snowden landed in Hong Kong and continued on to Moscow June 22.
I'll let you decide for yourself how spontaneous Snowden's run was, how long he had been disgusted by the activities of the CIA and their waterboarding and red hot poker Torquadma type torture, NSA, the administration's behavior, the Pentagon's use of DU, cluster bombs, Willy Pete, drones, interventions, perpetrating Ukrainian type revolutions in Syria, Egypt, Libya, Venezuela, etc. etc.
When you finally realize that is what your homeland has become, you can either become a terrorist or put a bullet in your temple. Unless you are dumb enough to think that you and a few others like can change things.
To cut to the chase
There are those who say after Snowden arrived in Russia the Russians knew and were prepared for everything.
Obama actually 'ordered' Putin to send him back. And Putin, like Giselle, was pulling the petals off a flower: "I'll send him back. I'll send him back not...."
Finally Obama was ordered to shut up, because if he wailed any louder about getting Snowden back, everyone would know exactly how important was the information in the dispatch case he took.
At that point the chorus of mindless Americans started to sing the far-fetched line, "Come home you will be treated fairly."
This is when the war began. First with Obama's threat in Syria.. Then Timmermans or Rutte were prevailed to tell Greenpeace's Kumi Naidoo to attempt to board the Russian platform.
Then the West came out of the closet and admitted that cocksucking had its charms. "Try it. You'll like." Said Obunghole.
At the end of November, Nuland's $5 billion went to work and the Ukrainian nazis came out from the rocks they nested under to gouge out eyes and throw molotov cocktails at the feet of unarmed policemen.
Yet Putin seemed undisturbed by the Ukrainian coup. Probably because 3 weeks after the nazis got their coup, the Crimeans voted to secede and Putin got exactly what it wanted.
You do work as a propagandist for Putin and the Russian gov't. No fucking way could you concoct your narrative on your own.
Don't you realize one bald-faced truth about truth: That is is far easy to cogently and lucidly argue the truth rather than propaganda? Frankly, I think it's a fait accompli that a person/group could expend 1/100 the resources arguing the anti-Russian POV than the pro-Russian POV. You don't really need to ask "Why", because the anti-Russian POV is the truth.
God, all you are, bid, is a common propagandist.
If you were really aware of how propaganda operates you would never accuse me of being a Russian propagandist.
I have only moments before the quaalude hits so try to follow this. In my way too long post I don't come right out and say so, but I hint that Snowden had been in touch with the Russians before he landed at Sheremetyevo.
I can't say how long he dealt with them or who approached whom, only that the charade in the transit zone was just that. And that the Chinese in Hong Kong greased Snowden's skids out. And the connecting flight to South America. Charade. And the month in the sunless transit zone. All bologna. All a kick in Obama's flabby black ass.
A Russian Propagandist would never bring all that deception to the public's attention.
As most of the commenters here feel as I do about Snowden, Putin, and Russia. I hope as I do, they think nothing unfavorable about it at all.
However, the Western propaganda about the nazi coup in Kiev that you so strongly embrace, I hate to say it, is for simple minded political scientists. No offence intended