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suicide bankers have met their match?
The Paris False Flag videos on YouTube are starting to pick up steam. I think this one was a false flag too.
This one has the most views-- presently at 411,000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUuYSft1fOw&bpctr=1420863573
This one is by the same sandy hook guy interviewed on SGT back in 2012.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOhsvDKN0rc
Don't believe the official story.
do you mean false flag like Operation Gladio as documented in the BBC documentary ?
Oh, wow!
No one's going to slip a false flag past you!
You are ON THE CASE!
By the way, do you know of any REAL FLAG ops?
Not sure, but the bottom cartoon is excellent.
The bad muslims are giving the other 1% a bad name.
i see what you did there.
That suppressor needs to be the size of a 55 gallon drum to adequately analogize the suppression of the truth and reality by the collectivists.
THX 1178 These falseflag videos are really retarded
They had bullet proof vests at a place that was firebombed previously and was under continues police protection??? CONSPIRACY!!!!
The headshot was clearly a miss upon close inspection but looking at the policeman grabbing his chest rolling on the ground before the "headshot" clearly shows that he was already hit pretty badly by the TWO guys firing fucking AK's at him. Images after the incident show paramedics looking after him... if the headshot was a hit that wouldn't have happened.... but he probably died from the gunshots prior to the missed headshot. Jumping on stupid shit like this gives the conspiracy community the bad rap that it has.
The video admits that there is not definite proof that it was a false flag but it does point out the clear undeniable truth that false or not, the powers that be are trying to use this as a justification for the NSA watching everything we do.
If the NSA were foiling such attacks, they could expect more support, than if they were performing such attacks. My guess is they are government pay scale unionized permanent bureaucrats like most others, not brilliant field operatives of the Mission Impossible variety. So mostly they just do the surveillance and data mining and crypto/hackery-geekery with their fat black budget and massive arrays of computers and storage. It's easier. It's...cushy. And you need no more complicated explanation than that to understand how they miss such attacks.
It has a bad rap only amongst official story believers.
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Sort of off topic . I am reading that jews are leaving Paris. And in general France. Where are they going and? And what is the consequence?
Death by sharpie® or AK-47?
Death by Obamacare.
More likely.
Stop being a useful idiot.
ObamaCare is Crony Capitalism, plain and simple; it forces you to buy a PRIVATE PRODUCT that you may not want, and if you can't pay, they government will pay it for you!
The "Health Lobby" was running out of paying customers so they "lobbied" the government, long story short, ObamaCare is now pumping $100 BILLION PLUS into the "Health Industry" every single year.
Death by Crony Capitalism!
A remarkably reasonable facsimile of an AK in that cartoon.
Ironic that a talented school kid creating and drawing a cartoon like that would be off to the principal's office and probably be expelled.
were the weapons used AK's?
I thought it was a reference to Le Pen myself.
10 seconds into the event and all I hear is "ak-47", "Kalashnikov style" - RUSSIA!
ANY CHANCE these weapons are MADE IN FRANCE or THE USA?
I love the smell of dead jihadists in the morning.
Second cartoon says it all
Replace 'Radical Islam' with 'Judaism' and you might be onto something.
Jews pinning muslims vs christians and these guys are eating it up. Suprising for this site.
These assholes weren't Jews or Christians.
Does this simple fact escape you?
Let's see what they think of this southern belle
http://ronbosoldier.blogspot.com/2015/01/a-muslim-free-zone-declared-in-...
Seems sorta Libertarian to me. Her business, her rules.
Anybody makes ya' real uneasy, makes ya' fearful, called assault, my friend, pure clean and simple.
2) My life has been threatened repeatedly by Muslims in response to my publication of those verses from their Koran.
Kinda sums it all up ;-)
nmewn? I've had a nickle plated 44 ina jacuzzi pointed at me
I've been shot at with a nickel plated .45.
Unfortunately for him, it jammed on the second ;-)
I was sitting in a Jacuzzi with some friends, "many years ago". The crazy father walked up to the edge of the jacuzzi with a fully loaded .45 and pointed it at us.
I tried to talk the Crazy Mexican down and he got "crazy eyed". The SOB luckily didn't pull the trigger, before he was tackled into the schrubs.
Never be afraid. Die a Free Man on his feet. Never submit, and never give up.
Sounds like a Phil Spector story.
"Unfortunately for him, it jammed on the second ;-)"
I just love you internet tough guys. ;-)
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It didn't jam
It sounds like someone else tackled the guy. Not sure how this sounds like Yen trying to sound tough.
If you draw on someone and suffer a failure then yeah, it is unfortunate for you in most cases.
Edit: Weird, first edition mentioned tackled.
I dared the guy to kill me while 2 of my friends grabed him from behind. Truth
Joking, you'll never know the truth.
I've had many guns pointed in my direction.
I've had many guns in my hands.
Yes...most were facsimiles of people I killed.
Repeatedly.
Sometimes I wonder how all the other guys turned out.
Everyone else was so much more into it than I was.
Still...there really is nothing like "combined arms.". I've only met a few 9/11 vets...I can only imagine. Blowing up entire Cities, taking over and running entire Countries.
That's more than I ever did.
We only overthrew one Government. It was cool. I loved it.
And I imagine after you do that everything else seems kinda dumb.
Sure does to me.
Is France about to blow? How the heck would I know?
I will say this...surrender is everywhere and always an option.
I am a female, I have had guns pointed at me, more than once. It is not an uncommon experience.
One time I was jogging. It was weird. I ignored him and that is how I got out of it...
The other time was a male roommate. Had to find another place to live...
It happened to me more than once as a child, I think that is why I did okay with the other two.
There is nothing internet tough guy about having a gun pointed at you.
Meh, some people live in basements all their lives and have never had the cold chill of having been shot at. Or experienced the rage of that someone getting close enough to the one who shot at him.
He was a friend.
You should write a book about your exciting and dangerous life. Nobody would read it, but it would be something else to brag and posture about.
I've got nothing but love for you my troll, a special kind of love.
I don't have anything to prove. I told the truth.
Neither do I.
But I can say from what I saw it is a cure for depression.
We never come home from these things. They never fit in. "This war is different." This one will never end...and some people love that.
My comment was for nmewn, not Yen Cross. Yen's stories and anecdotes are believeable.
How does a .45 jam?
I've put thousands of rounds through my Auto Ordnance 1911, and it never jammed.
A lot of rattle trap 1911's have been made in the last century, under a lot of brand names. Earlier ones didn't feed hollow points. The things needed a lot of tuning to get right. Modern CNC has improved this.
Dammit Yen
Now everyone's talking about guns again!
Bbbboooooooooooorrrrrrrrriiiiiiiinnngah.
When Israel gets the US to bomb muslim lands for decades killing Abdul's mother, father, sister, and brother, and destroying it and all his dreams can you blame the fucking guy for hating westerners?
We have fucking destroyed any hope of a future for most of the muslim world, often at Israel's calling, and claim it as democracy. These people have nothing or no-one left alive except for their faith and a hope of a better afterlife. Then we ridicule their religion, make fun of it in awful ways and call it freedom of speech. Meanwhile when someone posts a cartoon about christianity or dare-say judaism they are called racists, bigots, and anti-semites and are fired and even jailed!
Not to mention their brothers in Palestine are treated worse than blacks in 1980 South Africa, 2000 of which (mostly women and children) were bombed this summer and the "freedom and peace loving world" hailed it as appropriate by Israel.
This is what these people deal with and you blame them for snpping every now and then. Personally I can't believe that only so few have snapped and most have remained cool. If this was happening to Chrsitians there would be bombs going off every hour.
For fucks sake get your head out of your fucking ass
If there is no hope of peace with these animals, then we should just finish the job.
You are referring to US .gov supporters, aren't you?
You are so narrow minded (read: brainwashed) you make a strong case for yourself being the animal, led around as if in a leash. Consider finishing yourself.
It would appear you are a 'Final Solution' kind of guy.
Charlie Hedjob's free speech principle in action:
French cartoonist Sine on trial on charges of anti-Semitism over Sarkozy jibe
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/4351672/French-c...
Islam has been at war with everyone else since its inception. They are even at war with other sects of Islam. The Quran insists on it.
Did Buddhists attack Islam, thereby enticing the Taliban to destroy Buddhist monuments? Did Islam invade Iberia because the Spanish or Portuguese had attacked Arabia? I could go on, but why bother?
Christianity is mocked frequently without riots breaking out or the mockers being killed. Remember the "art" that consisted of a crucifix in a flask of urine? Did the creator of that get beheaded by angry Christians? Do people who say "Goddam" worry that some Christian will shoot them? Your assertion that people attacking Christianity are routinely called racists or bigots is absurd.
And your last sentence is equally absurd. Have you not paid attention to the treatment and even murder of Christians by all those adherents of the Religion of Peace? Read up on Nigeria, or Sudan, or what ISIS is doing in Iraq and Syria. And it isn't just MENA. Look at what they've done in Southeast Asia, the Phillipines, etc.
You must work for CAIR to be so blatantly wrong.
Religion is all about dividing people into opposing camps.
Same as government.
That is mostly true of most religions. Islam says kill or conquer. There isn't much wiggle room there.
And to answer your question, no, I do not know what the talmud or whatever says.
Wake up and quit playing the victim like our tribal friends. Just look at what the western world does to the planet. Look at what westerners do to each other. Not to mention thousands of years of jewish and christian atrocities. The fact of the matter is adherents of all Abrahamic religions commit atrocities.
However what we see now is a war against islam instigated moreso by the west than by them, by destroyign their countries. Look at Palestine, Libya, Iraq...surely you can't be that ignorant as to not see that the killing of haf a million muslims my our hands has caused this? Can you?
We are creating terrorists by terrorizing others.
The West is the terrorist.
My point is you cannot win aainst radical islam by killing muslims, since this is the reason most young muslim men end up angry with the western world.
Peace will prevail when we stop tormenting their homelands.
In the meantime if you want to deport muslims or stop immigration, then so be it to those who think it is necessary.
But, the ONLY thing that will create peace will be tolerance of their lands, and stopping biased behviour. I mean, allowing Israel to kill 2000 women and children and calling ourselves peacful honest freedom loving countries? Fuck that gives me heart atatck thinking about the kind of bullshit society we live in.
If you want to picture the future, imagine killer robot cops with Wallmartesque smiley faces. Hey, that's the present in some places.
I watched that movie you posted the other night where you suggested we watch the first 15 minutes. Standard kinda martial arts plot, but I enjoyed some of the dystopic details like global vs. local dollars and what you can buy. If you have not seen Children of Men, do it. They caught a feeling/tone in that thing, ah man. Don't look up too much about it, plot spoilers would suck.
You're too kind.
nvm
"My point is you cannot win aainst radical islam by killing muslims, since this is the reason most young muslim men end up angry with the western world. "
Yes we can.
Just don't leave any survivors.
We have been stockpiling nukes for 50 years.
Sharpies? Is that what the French had been dropping from their bombers in the Middle East?
Let me tell you that Christians were very angry about Piss-Christ, the museum was vandalized and the "art" was deteriorated, but yes nobody died on those incident.
The "art" was censored after.
YOUR head is up your ass. You don't know shit about israel or Palestine yet you comment with the intelligence of an ape regarding them. But feel free to live in your ignorance...You'll always have israel to blame for your problems, right?
If you read her long Islamophobic screed you'll see it's riddled with errors, which show she's either i) lying when she says: The Koran (which I have read and studied thoroughly)... or ii) very, very stupid.
Though I guess her 'Iran: You're next!' and 'I stand with Israel!' posters tell us all we need to know about the silly bitch.
Islam is bad enough without needing to slander it.
Islam is bad enough without needing to slander it, agreed.
2: 191-193
Before you go all simple on me, my general doctor practices "that faith", whatever she believes it is. But I still refuse to let her stick her finger up my ass, as is my right.
Call it, a cordial standoff if you want ;-)
You total spaz mnewn. Typical fake quoting, you have to ignore verse 190 of the second chapter in order to try and bring about your scaremongerin Islaamophobic tat. The 2 verses you misquoted are absolutely and unequivocally part of the instruction and grammar of verse 190. The entire sequence is about self-defence. "Fight back against those who fight you". The verses you quote legitimise killing by Muslims in self-defence. Your misquote is mere propaganda and you can do better than that.
No he can't.
Reality for him exists only in his head, not outside of it.
Actually, I quoted nothing, so I didn't misquote anything, I gave a reference point which you knew of. What I did do, is provide you the opportunity to give the actual quote itself and your interpretation of it big boy.
Will you now provide the actual quote you're referring to in the context of killing cartoonists in Paris which was supposedly to "Fight back against those who fight you"?
How were they fighting you, that is your interpretation of self defense?
Huh? Those three verses tell Muslims to attack if they are attacked.
http://www.aboutjihad.com/terrorism/quran_misquote_part_2.php
You haven't been reading this kind of bullshit, have you:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
you'll notice the multiple ellipses, mistranslation of 'fitna', etc, deliberately designed to mislead. Which is not surprising, as these sites are run by... zionists:
http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/10/fjordman-back-at-gates-of-vienna-whose-tipsters-include-caroline-glick/
I haven't had to read any fake translations to understand what the Quraan says because I can read and speak arabic having studied the language for years. Verse 190 is an instruction and so takes the imperative tense (Haalat ul amr) and the two following verses mnewn quoted continue in the imperative tense under the verb conjugation of 190. There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that verses 191-2 are part of 190 and therefore pertain solely to self-defence.
And 193 after 192?
All of it Muh Raf, quit hedging...what does it mean?
I've given you links in the post Muhraf (mistakenly) thought was addressed to him.
He can defend himself, let him.
nmewn/ For a second/ I'm just like you. Responsibilities.
There is a generic prohibition on killing human beings in the Quraan "If you slay a life it is as if you slayed the whole of mankind, and if you save a life it is as if you saved the life of all mankind". Please note that this statement does not have constraints i.e. is only referring to Muslims or members of your family etc. It means any human being. So these verses talk about the exception to the general case, when is killing permissible. Hence the verses 191-2 state do not show fear nor favour in killing when in self-defence. The faith or belief of an attacker is made irrelevant by these verses and no leniency may be shown.
Also these verses explain the methodology of self-defence. The basic position of Muslims is that they are only allowed to use hand to hand combat weapons, swords, knives and such like. However if an attacker escalates their choice of weapons then Muslims are allowed to use the same type of weapon. For instance bombs are prohibited weapons in Islaam, however if an attacker uses a bomb then it becomes permissible for Muslims to use it in retaliation to those attackers.
Hmm, different from the Talmud which apparently says we should all slave and die for the Khazars...
Sounds like my own carry permit training. Wise.
You do not think it is okay for Muslims who were attacked by a cartoon, to respond with a rifle, do you? They should whip out their own pens according to the material you posted.
For the record I am terrified that folks are overgeneralizing and attributing all of the violence to all Muslims AND I am bummed that so many of them are killing in the name of the religion (sort of fucks me up when I defend them). Folks like me who can see both sides and the grey area, it is getting challenging to hold the ground. If I were arguing your position, I would be mindful of just why others are afraid. Profiling is caution on steroids. The intention is generally safety. But it can capture innocents in it's far flung net.
I know what it says, I can read and comprehend, you refuse to put the actual quotes up, only your interpretation of what you think it says.
In truth Islam combines religion & state into one entity. Whereas, in the Judeo-Christian ethic they are separate, taking the principles of one...no stealing, murdering etc. and folding them into mans law, where even non-believers (or believers in anything else, like trees) have a fighting chance at justice among men on this earth.
Until you understand what importance this means to the devout (of any and all religions) as well as the atheists (audible gasp...lol) who were in fact murdered in France by Islamic psychopaths, there will be no peace.
In truth Islam combines religion & state into one entity. Whereas, in the Judeo-Christian ethic they are separate, taking the principles of one...no stealing, murdering etc. and folding them into mans law, where even non-believers (or believers in anything else, like trees) have a fighting chance at justice among men on this earth.
There is no 'Judeo-Christian' ethic. The teachings of Christ and the Torah/Talmud are miles apart; ask any Jew what he thinks of Jesus and his teachings, or have a peek in the Talmud, which - I believe - says Jesus was resurrected in hell so he could be tormented forever in boiling shit. Jesus was a hippy, and thus his teachings were completely incompatible with running a State; government is force, no 'turn the other cheek' shit for them - and so the people running 'Christianity' grafted the Torah's violence into the religion. It was the STATE religion throughout the West for well over a millenium in most of Europe. The separation of church and state came about in the West despite Christianity, not because it is in any way intrinsic to its teachings.
Christians today act very differently to Christians 2000 years ago; or even 200 years ago. There is no one Christian culture, it evolves... and is different everywhere around the world. Hell, look at the fighting between Catholics and Protestants just a few decades ago in Ireland.
As it stands, most of Islam is incompatible with what Westerners regard as a 'civilised' modern nation state. But let's not pretend that the modern nation state - regardless of its separation of church and state - is just as savage and ruthless as any caliphate when its interests are threatened, and it has the wherewithal to do something about it.
Do I want sharia law? Hell no. But I don't want 99% of the laws I'm saddled with (saddled by would be more accurate) here in our 'separation of church and state' tyrannies.
I haven't had to read any fake translations to understand what the Quraan says because I can read and speak arabic having studied the language for years. Verse 190 is an instruction and so takes the imperative tense (Haalat ul amr) and the two following verses mnewn quoted continue in the imperative tense under the verb conjugation of 190. There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that verses 191-2 are part of 190 and therefore pertain solely to self-defence.
Dude, my comment was addressed to nmewn.
My apologies, it's stupid o' clock here and I should be in bed. Thanks for your points - I don't like Jamal Badawi BTW, that's what irritated me. He's an engineer who thinks he's a theologian and his 'expertise' is often wrong.
Well, this is why I prefer reading Rothbard to Mohammed; Rothbard requires little exegesis ;-)
So she isn't hot, eh?
Edit: Can't believe everyone else got bogged down in this verses that. Are there no other menly man left?
Maybe only his wife?
And how do you know they were practicing Muslims? Presumably they shouted sonething in Arabic and then conveniently dropped their IDs. By way of comparison, how many totally innocent human beings are actually dead today through killing just because they actually chose to be Muslims? I'm sure they would prefer to have just had a gun pointed at them instead. I shall not enter a pissing contest on who's tried killing me or damaging my life and famil and you're whinges are pathetic.
Presumably?
They spoke fluent French and screamed Alloooo Achtung! (or some fascist variant) as they killed unarmed non-combatants in some sort of radical muslim ritualistic display of supreme piety.
The only good thing is they are now dead only thanks to the dumbass French tards who got slapped in the face for letting them fester up among them.
I'm talkinhg about the Muslims you claim threatened your own life for quoting the Quraan at them. Perhaps they were Shias and you quoted Sunni verses at them, thus enraging them beyond all self-control and thereby bringing to the surface their permanently latent fury?
I never claimed anyone threatened my life, so you're saying you're Sunni by your disrespect of Shia?
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Problem?
"...thus enraging them beyond all self-control and thereby bringing to the surface their permanently latent fury?"
ISIS is Sunni, bucko.
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Come on Muh Raf, you can do it, say it again ;-)
There is oddness in how this is laying out on the website, I think. There was a mistake upthread where Yen thought he was being addressed, when it was you, now this guy with you when you were talking about the woman who owned the indoor firing range that Knuks posted about [stop to pant, take deep breaths, start again]. Ya'll disagree but some of it is these posts not tracking right and folks responding to attacks that did not happen.
Or drunk posting.
Let's clarify the situation.
I was in full support of nmewn.
When it comes to judicial clarification I'll defer to MsCreant.
That's right MsC. If you didn't read the article Knuks linked to, you might miss that nmewn was quoting a sentence from that article and wasn't saying that he was the one who had been threatened. Muff Rah got this wrong and argued a non issue for a while. This kicked off several other misunderstandings about who was responding to who. I liked how the two gun stories got all mixed up but by that point, it was no longer a thread but a Möbius strip. Friday nights on ZH again but I would never say that intoxication was a factor.
There is oddness in how this is laying out on the website, I think. There was a mistake upthread where Yen thought he was being addressed, when it was you, now this guy with you when you
Indeed. This is why I'll usually quote whomever I'm replying to in my own post; it gets too confusing to follow a train of debate, otherwise.
"Minister, these Muslims have taken over large parts of the Capital and neighborhoods in other cities. If our police go there, they are shot."
"Muy Horrible, Inspector.Let's keep the police away from this violence and hope it goes away."
"But, sir..."
I lol'd for real.
She's far more likely to get killed by a fellow 'Christian' cop than a Muslim.
The point is, she hasn't and cops didn't kill 12 people in a press outlet either, no matter what one thinks of how provacative the press can be.
When Christians start killing NYT's editors & reporters for what they print be sure and let me know ;-)
Shall I let you know when they start blowing up abortion clinics too? Or droning shepherds having weddings? Or invading other countries that are no threat to them?
Shit, we'll be here all day.
Well, I had no idea, is abortion even legal in muslim countries? I mean, outside of just killing the woman carrying the mans unwanted child.
And droning seems to me to be a "progressive" attribute of late, by someone with a confirmed muslim background.
Invading other countries, you mean like ISIS?
Yes, it may be daylight where you are my friend but its getting late here ;-)
Well, I had no idea, is abortion even legal in muslim countries? I mean, outside of just killing the woman carrying the mans unwanted child.
Much as I detest most of sharia, you do know the Koran forbids extrajudicial killing except in self defence? It's particularly harsh on killing Muslims (though you wouldn't know it by the prevalance of intra-Muslim killing... but then, the Bible forbids killing; but 'Christians' have slaughtered, what, 100 million in the last 100 years alone?)
And droning seems to me to be a "progressive" attribute of late, by someone with a confirmed muslim background.
Oh, that is fucking weak, even for you. Are you telling me Shrub wouldn't have been using them just as much if they hadn't still been developing them during his glorious puppetude? Or that our next 100% 'Christian' president will eschew the technology?
Invading other countries, you mean like ISIS?
ISIS? The lunatics we trained and armed to sick onto Assad and who wandered off the reservation? Our proxies?
Though I grant Muslims have been historically fond of invading other countries... bit like 'Christians', huh?
You are being a stupid douche and racist today, I think. As if all white people are christians or all christians are white much less the idea of real christians being mass murderers. These things do not go together BigJim.
Has you account been hacked or what?
You are being a stupid douche and racist today, I think. As if all white people are christians or all christians are white much less the idea of real christians being mass murderers.
Pointing out the undeniable fact that people professing to be 'Christians' have been no less bloodthirsty than 'Muslims' is 'racist' is it?
Who knew?
Has you account been hacked or what?
No, I just find it incredible that here at ZH people are falling for this Islamophobic bullshit because 12 journos got murdered by 'Muslims'. Yet when millions of people are killed by 'Christians', do we get torrents of Jesuphobia? Why not? How about Brevik? He described himself as a Christian, did he not?
Oh, that's right, when Christians kill, they're not being real Christians.
But when Muslims kill - even in direct contravention of the Koran's edicts - they really are being Muslims. In fact, they're being more Islamic than the ones actually obeying the Koran.
You people are laughable.
So what are your thoughts on the whole St.Pooty saving the whole Eastern Orthodox Christain culture from the hordes of Jews & Islamic fanatics thingy?
Quite the pickle, what?
You did see where he unequivically condemned and said he supported all efforts to arrest or kill muslim fanatics, didn't you?
All my rowdy friends have settled down ;-)
Sorry, I have no idea what point you are trying to make here.
Is Putin a 'Christian'? He certainly says he is. He'll wear that mantle when it suits him, I'm sure. Does he follow Christ's teachings? I very much doubt it - he's the semi-oligarchic ruler of a nuclear power. I don't recall him - or any other 'Christian' ruler, for that matter - turning the other cheek in (for example) Ossetia or Chechnya.
And this is the problem with you mainstream 'Christians' - the way you live your lives bears practically no resemblance to the way Christ told you to live your lives.
Which is fair enough, insofar as I wouldn't cheerfully turn the cheek when aggressed against, either; but then, I don't claim to be a Christian, or go around accusing Muslims of behaving very differently to the way 'Christians' have behaved throughout history.
Doesn't 'your' bible say something about motes and beams in eyes, nmewn? Might want to have a think about that before wallowing in religious tribalism.
"I'm good at killin' people."
--Leisure Suit Barry
Perhaps you can help your premise here. How many abortion clinics have been bombed, or abortionists killed, in the (erroneous) name of Christianity? And how many bombs have been exploded, and people killed, by people claiming to be Muslims? Note that I won't use the "(erroneous)" comment with Muslims as I did with Christians, since I know that Christ did not condone proactive violence but I have heard that the Quran does advocate violence against non-believers.
Well, I wasn't going to bring up Mooohamad coming out of some non-descript tribe in what is now Saudi Arabia conquering all and his followers thereafter, butchering their way across the ME by the sword to establish his faith and their power and family wealth.
But I thought most "progressive" ZH readers already knew that and just didn't want to bring it up...lol.
No doubt about it, definitely a religion of peace ;-)
Perhaps you can help your premise here. How many abortion clinics have been bombed, or abortionists killed, in the (erroneous) name of Christianity? And how many bombs have been exploded, and people killed, by people claiming to be Muslims?
I'm pretty sure if you compared the tonnage of ordnance detonated by Christians compared with Muslims over the last century, there'd be no contest.
Note that I won't use the "(erroneous)" comment with Muslims as I did with Christians, since I know that Christ did not condone proactive violence but I have heard that the Quran does advocate violence against non-believers.
Oh, you've 'heard' that, have you? Funny how many people Christians have killed over the last century despite this, huh? The religion of peace! Well, have a read of the old Testament (or, even better, the Talmud, which the Jews believe should be held in even higher regard) and you'll find plenty of adjurations to kill unbelievers.
The point is, people who profess to believe in Christ's teachings have proven no more peaceful than Muslims. But for some reason, we believe the acts of the former are in no way as indicative of the 'wickedness' of their respective religion.
When mass murderers start of their killing spree by invoking The Father, and The Son, and The Holy Spirit, let us know. In the meantime, there is a growing number of people for whom "Allah Akbar" is the last thing they ever heard.
No, as of late, 'Christian' mass murderers start their killing sprees by invoking democracy... or with shouts of "Amerikka, fuck yeah!"
Of course, most of this killing is heroically performed at a distance, so the victims don't hear anything at all before being incinerated or blown apart.
Just asking, but exactly how many abortion clinics have been bombed and how many abortion 'doctors' killed by Christian extremists? - I keep hearing you say this bullshit, but please provide some documentation or STFU. Also what 'Christian's are droning shepherds having weddings? Or beheading people, doing clitorectomies, or bombing much of anything?
You can hardly claim the people doing the droning are Christians. I'd be shocked if they had any religion at all.
As to abortion clinics, you have to see it another way. What if you had to kill just one person to save many, perhaps hundreds or thousands of lives? No kidding, you'd busta cap in his ass wouldn't you. That is how they see it. They believe the unborn are legit humans being murdered by a few "doctors" (do no harm?). Well yeah, one life in trade for hundreds or thousands, easy choice.
Your problem is you cannot, or will not, see things from any other perspective but your own. Your view is always right and so it must be the only view. Good luck with that. Aren't you from the land of Al Franken?
You can hardly claim the people doing the droning are Christians. I'd be shocked if they had any religion at all.
3/4 of Americans claim to be Christians. The US Army has chaplains, does it not? Are you telling me the drone operators are uniquely athiestic compared with their compatriots?
As to abortion clinics, you have to see it another way. What if you had to kill just one person to save many, perhaps hundreds or thousands of lives? No kidding, you'd busta cap in his ass wouldn't you. That is how they see it. They believe the unborn are legit humans being murdered by a few "doctors" (do no harm?). Well yeah, one life in trade for hundreds or thousands, easy choice.
Yes, I imagine that's exactly what the 911 hijackers (if you believe the official story) thought - kill a few thousand Americans, and maybe the US citizenry would begin to realise the costs of their governments' foreign policy, vote in more enlightened leadership, and save the lives of millions of Muslims. Good point. I like it!
Your problem is you cannot, or will not, see things from any other perspective but your own. Your view is always right and so it must be the only view. Good luck with that. Aren't you from the land of Al Franken?
Erm OK. It's not me spouting the reflexive Islamophobia here chum.
When it comes to abortion, the muzzies have a lot in common with Christians.
Haha, we should take up a collection and print copies of papers crediting the MSM. The papers would be air-dropped on ISIL and depict horrid sexual acts between Allah and Mo-Hamed.
"Bill Fern here with CBS. The NYT building is now surrounded by Police and Special units. Just moments ago, the head of the NYT editor rolled down the steps with a note in Arabic clenched in its teeth. We are waiting for a translation."
"Boris Vodkalot here with RT. The slaughter at the CNN building is horrendous. The disgruntled extremeists have been waving these papers around- horrid cartoons of the Prophet demeaning Islam. The extremists, claim these papers were dropped on ISIL locations two weeks ago. The Southern Poverty Law Center, a Zionist Front, believes this is the work of Ron Paul supporters."
Jews are the main cause behind the Muslim flood into Europe, now it is coming back to bite them on the ass. Hopefully, muzzies will kill LOTS of Jews in the near future!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Vq_e2Z1ug
Jews are indeed often at the forefront of promoting 'multiculturalism' everywhere... everywhere except Israel, that is.
But why the fuck would you hope muzzies will kill lots of Jews in the near future? The Jews that would be killed would all be ordinary schmucks like you and me, not the tiny percent of mischief-makers out of the millions of everyday folks that comprise 'Jews'.
And the only way Muzzies could kill lots of Jews is if they first killed an even larger number of non-Jews... i.e., us.
Stupid troll.
-1000
Radical Islam is redundant, like saying corrupt politician.
Wrong. There isn't an ~ism for what is not talked about. Seriously, our opponents don't even have an identifiable ideology. We don't really even know who they are. It simply isn't discussed and so there simply is no name.
"Seriously, our opponents don't even have an identifiable ideology."
It's safe to say that their ideology (I prefer to call it religion) is Statism., which is their God that we must all obey without question. To these people, enforcing rules/regs is their life, it's all that matters. They are little more than obedient, mindless, jumped-up-jackboots.
Virtually anybody who is employed by "The State" is an opponent. From the lowly apparatchik with an inflated view of his/her importance to the highest Bossman, they are all guilty. And when the SHTF they will all hide behind "I was only doing my job" or "I was only following orders".
The noose will not make such a distinction.
Yes it does.
And the people enforcing it will be surprised when the knife is at their throats...
A few jihadist heads on the spikes on top of a fence in Paris would be a nice touch.
Their testicle purses will fetch a good price at auction. Cover the debt some, with a French twist.
And I end the refrain: Thrust Home!
I like a little bacon with my hottie jihadi body.
Mmmm, bacon... I had a bacon sandwich for lunch, and another for dinner.
Personally I believe bacon should be a religion.
Standard Disclaimer: This is some really good weed I'm smoking.
I love bacon (had some today) but not a religion for me. Still, a gift, of sorts, for you.
The bigger issue is open borders and the NWO destroying western countries.
The biggest issue is that government is the problem, not the solution.
Good government is an oxymoron.
I think G Washington said, "...it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
I need you, here.
Freddie , 'Zero Hedge' has made you a much MOAR pragmatic individual. ;-D
It's nice to see you sharing wisdom and knowledge in productive ways.
The biggest issue is the small clique of people calling the shots and profiting off their schemes.
We are between the Fascist ZioBanksters and the Islamists. 2015 will not be easy to navigate, considering that denial is still supreme.
Buying some more gold and ammo would not be the worst investment that we could do.
The pen is mightier than the sword.. (Unless of course the other fellow has a sword)…
Make sure that your pen is very long and very sharp!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0ScNLt2zNc
Tom Araya of Slayer made that quite clear on April 3, 1985:
Die By the Sword...... Slayer.
Some would say that violence never solved anything. Tell that to the next Carthaginian you meet.
~Douglas MacArthur
MacArther was good at moving artillary though.
Artillery wins battles.
Placement wins battles
Aerial bombardment beats placement. Sexy homicidal females are diplomatic warriors. Is diplomacy a mental condition? Some forms, definitely.
... the penis mightier than the sword ... :)
I think Jewish babies might disagree with you.