The highest incarceration rate in the world - 740 per 100,000 compared to about 50 in Japan and Sweden and 30 in India. 4.3% of the world's population and more than 25% of its prisoners.
More women prisoners in the land of the free than China, Russia and India combined.
Can I say I am from Meh hih co? I hear I get FREE housing, Free healthcare, Free education, welfare and dont need no license to drive (so no auto insurance eeder)
I wonder if there is somebody in CCA looking at youtube going "fuck!!" As he counts all the blacks killed by the cops before they were paid to keep them in Orange jumpers.
A lot of countries save money on prisons by sending their criminals to the U.S. The U.S. border patrolis finding up to 40% felons among the apprehended illegal immigrants. M thinks the solution is for every state to bus their criminals to Washington DC to join the criminals in government.
We and the Chinese both should be shooting the communist, Obamunist politicians, judges, banksters, Wall Sreet crooks and con-artists, lawyers, and power-mongering bureaucrats......not the weekend pot smoker and unemployed Joe Sixpack.
You are correct! And the stupid war on drugs is responsible for over half of all arrests and incarcerations. Petty, non violent drug users are swept up by armies of cops and drug agents and thrown into for profit prisons. The war on drugs provides tens of thousands of high paying government jobs, from local cops to high level drug agents in Washington DC. In most cases they leave the top drug lords and major trafficers alone, letting the US banks launder tens of billions for profit. But out on the streets where normal people live, tens of thousands of drug cops and agents, all collecting huge salaries, are busting 100's of thousands of teenagers, young adults, college students, poor people and seriously ill addicts. Filling jails and prisons, where more high paying jobs as jailers can be found.
80% of drug arrests could be dealt with cheaply with treatment and in house arrest for seroius amounts. As a libertarian, I resent government demanding power over my body, they own me, if I want to smoke a joint on Saturday and sit back and watch football, they are ready to send a swat team in and arrest me for this terrible crime! Millions of honest free Americans use some small amount of a drug at one time or another. Social harm is limited, and for addicts, treatment and home arrest is much cheaper. But government agents would lose their high paying cop jobs. And government would have to admit our bodies belong to us. I piss on the liars and crooks who are our overpaid government and their overpaid agents. We don't need 90% of them. The really serious drug criminals, fine! The 10% left can deal with them. Freedom isn't free, not is it available in the United States of Police.
You hit it. Some things just can't be explained away like marijuana a class 1 drug. Everything is about profit and control. The "war" on drugs has been the most expensive, failed policy (successful in the minds of others) the USA has embarked on and is making profit for many including prisons. I don't condone anything but can't judge anyone either, God does that.
The way to handle drugs is to legalize but have harsh, harsh penalties for hurting someone, driving, etc. while intoxicated. It would have to be handled ethically which is a tall task anyway.
Use tax revenue to educate kids on the dangers of drugs and help those that want to get off the stuff. Of course this would hurt the standard of living for some making huge profits so we can't have that.
The serious drug criminals you mention are the US government. Things are so fucked up right now that I can't see any legislative means to solve anything. The Bush family crime cartel has been involved since the JFK assasination and we're about ready to put another one of these assholes in the White House Time Share for criminals. We all know what has to be done but we aren't there yet.
Nice rant, Jack.
Rest assured that it will grow much, MUCH worse as the unfortunate backlash against law enforcement commences.The only thing that a tyrannical, out-of-control government understands is proportional and overwhelming force. If law enforcement has decided that they have declared WAR upon the Amerikan people, then WAR is what they will get.
I worked as a paid firefighter in my younger years, and I had a tremendous amount of respect for the LEO profession back in those days. An ugly transformation has occurred during the last 20 years, and I have absolutely no sympathy for law enforcement when violent resistance to their tyranny is encountered. They are clearly not invincible to equal or overwhelming resistance, and I believe that this country is only in the beginning stages of a backlash that will rip this nation apart.
The .1% need to do something with all the young guys after enormously enriching themselves in sending all their jobs to China. And it's true, locking them up and turning them into desensitized brutes before they're released onto a vulnerable population guarantees endless revenue streams for the government bureaucrats and hordes of public defenders and criminal lawyers.
Prisons run by homos who encourage homosexual rape and murder, orphanages run by pedophiles, hospitals that look the other way as nurses and doctors bump off elderly patients, DEA top executive staff working for the Sinaloa drug cartel (Fast and Furious anyone?). The degenerates have taken over America, led by that paragon of evil, Obummer (O'Boehner is an Obummer clone).
Good Ol' American cannon fodder. Feed the unemployed males to Ovomit's bloodthirsty muslime fellow travelers. A convenient social safety valve to avoid violent revolution and guillotining of the demoniacs in D.C.
..but you could probably fit a half dozen or more economy urns in the same space or scratch the urns altogether and mix up a few dozen “unto dust” bulk financial racketeers.
We can hang them in cages, in irons, or in chains from public fixtures around bridges or Government Buildings... But that would not change the length of their bodies... Zionist or Bankers or Government Contractors or Wall Street Bankers...
If we chain them over a 4 sided pyramid, a 3 sided pyramid under their ass... well that can seem to change the shape of the body.
The only difference between jail and the rest of America is that the latter are not locked up at night.
The so called freebies of the jail system are nothing that any sane individual would aspire to.
The jail system in America is a sad indictment of what America has become........a very sick empire that is held together only by its counterfeit money and its military.
And here is the other rub: The DC US has more POLITICAL prisoners than any other nation in the world, including China.
A crime that does not involve aggression or violation of another's Life, Liberty, and/or Property, and therefore has no victim, is NOT a crime. A crime that only has the governmnet claiming victim hood and no one's Life, Liberty, and/or Property has been aggressed against, is, by definition, a political crime--a crime against the governmnet, not against an individual.
Most prisoners in the DC US' jails and prisons, the PIC, are there for the above political type crimes. Things like drugs, taxes, "laundering" money, etc. Therefore, the DC US has more political criminals in their gulags then any other nation in the world.
Now add in that a lot of murders and violence are perpetrated by those in involved in the politically illegal drug trade, and we can expand our analysis further.
Good morning, welcome to the police-state. Put your dignity in the barrel on the left, and your humanity in the one on the right.
The banksters need to repay us.
Revolution starts with realization of what is no longer bearable.
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security..."
Anyone who has ever spent a night in jail would not want to return, no matter if there is free food and a roof.
We talk about liberty a lot on this site, but when someone tells you when to get up, eat, when the lights go out, when you can exercise, who your roomate will be, that aint freedom folks, that is caged, like chickens in a pen.
I think the experience screws up minds and people. It is not about rehabilitation at all, it is straight up punishment.
They call it a debt to society an inmate needs to repay. What debt? If someone is caught for all the offenses they can throw a person in jail for, it isn't affecting me one way or the other. People who do desperate things are going to do them anyway, jail or death sentence isn't going to stop them.
Late Add: It is not funny as you are supporting above.
Once in Prison, hard to get job, hard to get apartment, no credit for cars,... you have to depend on family & friends... or you give in and start a crime career for sure...
In the Law of Moses, how many jails cells are supposed to be built?
NONE
The penalties in the LAW are paying 7X for theft or property destruction, or being executed for violent crimes, murder, and some other "offenses". Of course, there is the Ceremonial Law about bathing and getting rid of molds, but that's for another day.
For God, violence was met with physical penalties and non-violent crimes were satisifed by cash or enforced service. No Jails. And there's nothing about "drugs" except for the good advice of avoiding the "sorcerers" (apothokos) in the New Testament.
But, in the good 'ol USSA, we know there's big money in contractor jails and large police forces. Afterall, we must be protected from ourselves by Nanny State.
Ah, unscientific fascist are down voting. Obviously they don't know what Bias or Logic is. I suggest a study in Philosophy. Visit a Library if not inconvenient.
Disclosure: I've been to Jail more than 2 times, and almost arrested like 10 times.
"Criminal Alien Statistics: Information on Incarcerations, Arrests, and Costs," Government Accountability Office, March 24, 2011
...about 55,000 criminal aliens account for more than one-fourth of prisoners in Federal Bureau of Prisons facilities, and there are about 297,000 criminal aliens incarcerated in state and local prisons. That number represents about 16.4 percent of the state and local prison population
"Criminal Alien Statistics: Information on Incarcerations, Arrests, and Costs," Government Accountability Office, March 24, 2011
...about 55,000 criminal aliens account for more than one-fourth of prisoners in Federal Bureau of Prisons facilities, and there are about 297,000 criminal aliens incarcerated in state and local prisons. That number represents about 16.4 percent of the state and local prison population
The cartoon is accurate - US prisons are the nicest and most expensive in the world. Either we need to make them 'prisons' where you do not WANT to be - or come up with new punishments.
I think a better idea would be to throw YOU in jail and then see if you stick with that mindset. I'm sure the NSA could come up with a couple felonies just tracking you closely for a month or so. By the way all your assets and property will be seized upon arrest and you will only be entitled to governemnt-provided legal 'counsel'.
We're all criminals thanks to exponential growth in complex regulations, laws, rules, bylaws, you name it. In the end it comes down to who gets caught/charged/convicted (selective enforcement). Hint: It's not Wall Street.
The only individuals who appear to be exempt from ANY law enforcement action are government workers, even if you happen to be a lowly sanitation engineer.
And no, I'm not being sarcastic.
If you work for the government, law enforcement will "look the other way" unless the alleged crime is an egregious felony.
What counts as an "egregious felony" is not paying the annual property taxes on the 35 cents you have been hoarding in the piggy bank you stashed under your bed.
Sorry down-voters, but two thirds of felons return to jail within 3 years. Many can't find work (would you hire a felon?). Prison is not a deterrent to these guys - so why not come up with new types of punishments? Or change the prisons? You cannot honestly defend what we have now as WORKING?
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The highest incarceration rate in the world - 740 per 100,000 compared to about 50 in Japan and Sweden and 30 in India. 4.3% of the world's population and more than 25% of its prisoners.
More women prisoners in the land of the free than China, Russia and India combined.
USA has slightly more jails and prisons in the U.S. -- 5,000 plus -- than we do degree-granting colleges and universities. In many parts of America, particularly the South, there are more people living in prisons than on college campuses.
In China they don't lock 'em up, they just shoot 'em. It's a lot cheaper.
They don't even do that very much anymore. But illegally camping in the USA will get you shot.
And selling cigarette singles without a permit will get you choked to death.
Land of the Free, Home of the Brave.........................NOT
... Sunday Humor = HUMORRHOIDS. ;-)
Looney
Can I say I am from Meh hih co? I hear I get FREE housing, Free healthcare, Free education, welfare and dont need no license to drive (so no auto insurance eeder)
Japan and Sweden are homogenous populations.
If you subtract out the USA's illegal alien inmates (~13%):
http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2010/01/corrections-sta.html
and racial minorites (75%):
http://www.ppic.org/main/publication_show.asp?i=702
Our incarceration rates are much closer to other homogenous populations.
As for India:... there's nothing there for criminals to steal...
Thats the damn truth that nobody wants to acknowledge.
LOL that's a pathetic excuse to defend a pile of dogshit in the street. Nigger, please.
Like other nations' prison population figures don't also include immigrants and minorities, notwithstanding that the entire premise is asinine.
I am Chumbawamba.
I wonder if there is somebody in CCA looking at youtube going "fuck!!" As he counts all the blacks killed by the cops before they were paid to keep them in Orange jumpers.
Too cowardly to punish, we let anal rape deter crime.
"Land of the Fee, Home of the Slave."
FIFY
In China they don't lock 'em up, they just shoot 'em
China executed 2400 prisoners in 2013. The rest of the world 778 in 2013.
China had about 2 million prisoners in 2013
http://www.newsweek.com/china-executed-2400-prisoners-2013-says-human-ri...
A lot of countries save money on prisons by sending their criminals to the U.S. The U.S. border patrolis finding up to 40% felons among the apprehended illegal immigrants. M thinks the solution is for every state to bus their criminals to Washington DC to join the criminals in government.
We and the Chinese both should be shooting the communist, Obamunist politicians, judges, banksters, Wall Sreet crooks and con-artists, lawyers, and power-mongering bureaucrats......not the weekend pot smoker and unemployed Joe Sixpack.
You are correct! And the stupid war on drugs is responsible for over half of all arrests and incarcerations. Petty, non violent drug users are swept up by armies of cops and drug agents and thrown into for profit prisons. The war on drugs provides tens of thousands of high paying government jobs, from local cops to high level drug agents in Washington DC. In most cases they leave the top drug lords and major trafficers alone, letting the US banks launder tens of billions for profit. But out on the streets where normal people live, tens of thousands of drug cops and agents, all collecting huge salaries, are busting 100's of thousands of teenagers, young adults, college students, poor people and seriously ill addicts. Filling jails and prisons, where more high paying jobs as jailers can be found.
80% of drug arrests could be dealt with cheaply with treatment and in house arrest for seroius amounts. As a libertarian, I resent government demanding power over my body, they own me, if I want to smoke a joint on Saturday and sit back and watch football, they are ready to send a swat team in and arrest me for this terrible crime! Millions of honest free Americans use some small amount of a drug at one time or another. Social harm is limited, and for addicts, treatment and home arrest is much cheaper. But government agents would lose their high paying cop jobs. And government would have to admit our bodies belong to us. I piss on the liars and crooks who are our overpaid government and their overpaid agents. We don't need 90% of them. The really serious drug criminals, fine! The 10% left can deal with them. Freedom isn't free, not is it available in the United States of Police.
You hit it. Some things just can't be explained away like marijuana a class 1 drug. Everything is about profit and control. The "war" on drugs has been the most expensive, failed policy (successful in the minds of others) the USA has embarked on and is making profit for many including prisons. I don't condone anything but can't judge anyone either, God does that.
The way to handle drugs is to legalize but have harsh, harsh penalties for hurting someone, driving, etc. while intoxicated. It would have to be handled ethically which is a tall task anyway.
Use tax revenue to educate kids on the dangers of drugs and help those that want to get off the stuff. Of course this would hurt the standard of living for some making huge profits so we can't have that.
John 3:16
The "War on Poverty" has been an even bigger failure than the failed "War on Drugs".
The "War on Terror" is looming as another huge boondoggling failure what with the muslime in the white mosque and the muslime heading up the CIA.
We have become too stupid for self-governance.
The serious drug criminals you mention are the US government. Things are so fucked up right now that I can't see any legislative means to solve anything. The Bush family crime cartel has been involved since the JFK assasination and we're about ready to put another one of these assholes in the White House Time Share for criminals. We all know what has to be done but we aren't there yet.
+1000
Nice rant, Jack.
Rest assured that it will grow much, MUCH worse as the unfortunate backlash against law enforcement commences.The only thing that a tyrannical, out-of-control government understands is proportional and overwhelming force. If law enforcement has decided that they have declared WAR upon the Amerikan people, then WAR is what they will get.
I worked as a paid firefighter in my younger years, and I had a tremendous amount of respect for the LEO profession back in those days. An ugly transformation has occurred during the last 20 years, and I have absolutely no sympathy for law enforcement when violent resistance to their tyranny is encountered. They are clearly not invincible to equal or overwhelming resistance, and I believe that this country is only in the beginning stages of a backlash that will rip this nation apart.
The .1% need to do something with all the young guys after enormously enriching themselves in sending all their jobs to China. And it's true, locking them up and turning them into desensitized brutes before they're released onto a vulnerable population guarantees endless revenue streams for the government bureaucrats and hordes of public defenders and criminal lawyers.
Prisons run by homos who encourage homosexual rape and murder, orphanages run by pedophiles, hospitals that look the other way as nurses and doctors bump off elderly patients, DEA top executive staff working for the Sinaloa drug cartel (Fast and Furious anyone?). The degenerates have taken over America, led by that paragon of evil, Obummer (O'Boehner is an Obummer clone).
Most prisoners dont look like that guy, tho.
And best of all no fucking homework.
Plenty of classwork though. ;-)
Yep, and there is always a nice 240 pund gorilla that is willing to treat your hemaroids.
The point of prison: those prisoners arent part of the unemployed stats
they are cheap labor force too
And those that don't qualify for prison end up in Iraq, Afghanistan etc and another 1000 bases so that they don't remain unemployed at home.
Good Ol' American cannon fodder. Feed the unemployed males to Ovomit's bloodthirsty muslime fellow travelers. A convenient social safety valve to avoid violent revolution and guillotining of the demoniacs in D.C.
Back in the day, I knew a couple dudes who'd do some misdominors so they could go to county & get some dental work, new glasses, etc.
You have to know how to work the system...
In a couple of years we might need more room for some bankers if we are lucky.
Surely the only 'room' banksters will take up will be 2ft x 1ft x 6ft - approximately 2 yards below ground level.
It's what they deserve!
Your math is off logicalman. 2ft x 1ft x 5ft. for some, 2ft x 1ft x 7ft for others, depending on whether they get trimmed or stretched.
I did actually think about that - decided to go with a kind of acceptable average.
Maybe 5ft would work - head on lap would save about 12in
..but you could probably fit a half dozen or more economy urns in the same space or scratch the urns altogether and mix up a few dozen “unto dust” bulk financial racketeers.
How elegaantly stated. Milestones
Spread the bankster dust over the State of New York to add to the land mass and return the demon spore back to where it originated.
What does Impaling do to the Corpse?
We can hang them in cages, in irons, or in chains from public fixtures around bridges or Government Buildings... But that would not change the length of their bodies... Zionist or Bankers or Government Contractors or Wall Street Bankers...
If we chain them over a 4 sided pyramid, a 3 sided pyramid under their ass... well that can seem to change the shape of the body.
Could we need more Longer Coffins??
The only difference between jail and the rest of America is that the latter are not locked up at night.
The so called freebies of the jail system are nothing that any sane individual would aspire to.
The jail system in America is a sad indictment of what America has become........a very sick empire that is held together only by its counterfeit money and its military.
Orange is the new Kardashian fake bubble (butt).
Prison: the only place you're allowed to associate with other whites, and yet no one wants to go there.
Right....like 'other whites' got your back...dream on...
And here is the other rub: The DC US has more POLITICAL prisoners than any other nation in the world, including China.
A crime that does not involve aggression or violation of another's Life, Liberty, and/or Property, and therefore has no victim, is NOT a crime. A crime that only has the governmnet claiming victim hood and no one's Life, Liberty, and/or Property has been aggressed against, is, by definition, a political crime--a crime against the governmnet, not against an individual.
Most prisoners in the DC US' jails and prisons, the PIC, are there for the above political type crimes. Things like drugs, taxes, "laundering" money, etc. Therefore, the DC US has more political criminals in their gulags then any other nation in the world.
Now add in that a lot of murders and violence are perpetrated by those in involved in the politically illegal drug trade, and we can expand our analysis further.
Good morning, welcome to the police-state. Put your dignity in the barrel on the left, and your humanity in the one on the right.
The banksters need to repay us.
Revolution starts with realization of what is no longer bearable.
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security..."
Who would you look to as the new Guards leader? Al Sharpton perhaps.
Your mama meets my agenda for the unda.
Anyone who has ever spent a night in jail would not want to return, no matter if there is free food and a roof.
We talk about liberty a lot on this site, but when someone tells you when to get up, eat, when the lights go out, when you can exercise, who your roomate will be, that aint freedom folks, that is caged, like chickens in a pen.
I think the experience screws up minds and people. It is not about rehabilitation at all, it is straight up punishment.
They call it a debt to society an inmate needs to repay. What debt? If someone is caught for all the offenses they can throw a person in jail for, it isn't affecting me one way or the other. People who do desperate things are going to do them anyway, jail or death sentence isn't going to stop them.
HaHa, some banker thought up that one:
"They call it a debt to society"
- From Debtor Prisons
Late Add: It is not funny as you are supporting above.
Once in Prison, hard to get job, hard to get apartment, no credit for cars,... you have to depend on family & friends... or you give in and start a crime career for sure...
If cops kill so many blacks, why are there so many blacks left commiting most of the crimes in this country?
Babymommas
I'd say that the amount of white-collar crimes that go unpunished may exceed blue-collar crimes at this point...
Q of the D -
In the Law of Moses, how many jails cells are supposed to be built?
NONE
The penalties in the LAW are paying 7X for theft or property destruction, or being executed for violent crimes, murder, and some other "offenses". Of course, there is the Ceremonial Law about bathing and getting rid of molds, but that's for another day.
For God, violence was met with physical penalties and non-violent crimes were satisifed by cash or enforced service. No Jails. And there's nothing about "drugs" except for the good advice of avoiding the "sorcerers" (apothokos) in the New Testament.
But, in the good 'ol USSA, we know there's big money in contractor jails and large police forces. Afterall, we must be protected from ourselves by Nanny State.
1/3 of our prison population is illegal aliens.
Proof, Source of info?
Late Add:
Ah, unscientific fascist are down voting. Obviously they don't know what Bias or Logic is. I suggest a study in Philosophy. Visit a Library if not inconvenient.
Disclosure: I've been to Jail more than 2 times, and almost arrested like 10 times.
...about 55,000 criminal aliens account for more than one-fourth of prisoners in Federal Bureau of Prisons facilities, and there are about 297,000 criminal aliens incarcerated in state and local prisons. That number represents about 16.4 percent of the state and local prison population
...about 55,000 criminal aliens account for more than one-fourth of prisoners in Federal Bureau of Prisons facilities, and there are about 297,000 criminal aliens incarcerated in state and local prisons. That number represents about 16.4 percent of the state and local prison population
The cartoon is accurate - US prisons are the nicest and most expensive in the world. Either we need to make them 'prisons' where you do not WANT to be - or come up with new punishments.
I think a better idea would be to throw YOU in jail and then see if you stick with that mindset. I'm sure the NSA could come up with a couple felonies just tracking you closely for a month or so. By the way all your assets and property will be seized upon arrest and you will only be entitled to governemnt-provided legal 'counsel'.
We're all criminals thanks to exponential growth in complex regulations, laws, rules, bylaws, you name it. In the end it comes down to who gets caught/charged/convicted (selective enforcement). Hint: It's not Wall Street.
take a look.
http://www.threefeloniesaday.com/Youtoo/tabid/86/Default.aspx
Agree with selective enforcement - but name ANY other country where prisons have TV, Internet, and exercise machines!
Guantanamo, Cuba. Where Ovomit's fellow demons are vacationing.
You're right, of course.
The only individuals who appear to be exempt from ANY law enforcement action are government workers, even if you happen to be a lowly sanitation engineer.
And no, I'm not being sarcastic.
If you work for the government, law enforcement will "look the other way" unless the alleged crime is an egregious felony.
Government workers look out for each other.
What counts as an "egregious felony" is not paying the annual property taxes on the 35 cents you have been hoarding in the piggy bank you stashed under your bed.
Sorry down-voters, but two thirds of felons return to jail within 3 years. Many can't find work (would you hire a felon?). Prison is not a deterrent to these guys - so why not come up with new types of punishments? Or change the prisons? You cannot honestly defend what we have now as WORKING?
You are ignorant, an idiot, or both.
No wonder you Americans are so sickly. You can't get enough vitamin D with all the chemtrails blocking the sky and only a hour of yard time a day
Don't be dissin my alternate retirement plan.
If my Pension and 401-k go up in smoke it's a bank stick-up that will get me into the land of milk and honey.
3 hots and a cot with plenty of reading time.
Bubba will look at my old hairy ass much the same as the wife does, so no worries there.
I can specialize in Criminal Law and tattoos.
Was that Full Disclosure? Cause it certainly seemed to be... LOL
Been saying pretty much the same for a while.
Governments are going to renegue on their pension promises, as they have already spent all the funds.
When life gets to a certain point, this will be the only sane strategy for many.
All will be revealed in the fullness of time!
"SLAMMER" should read "SHOWER"
just observe the percentage rates
1.3B population in China
... but Ben Dover wouldn't pick up the soap ... :)
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Maybe we have the most criminal of cultures and thus the largest prison population.