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Turkish President's Stunning Outburst: The French Are Behind The Charlie Hebdo Massacre; Mossad Blamed

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It was less than 48 hours ago when Turkey’s prime minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, joined millions marching in Paris to pay tribute to the 17 people killed by ISIS-supporting extremists. Then, almost the moment he got back, things changed, and as the FT politely paraphrases what transpired, the "country’s president struck a much more confrontational tone." That's one way of putting it. Another is that the former PM and current president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, of NATO-member Turkey did the unthinkable: accused the west, and French citizens in particular, of staging the Charlie Hebdo murder in order to blame Muslims, even as the mayor of Ankara said "Mossad is definitely behind such incidents . . . it is boosting enmity towards Islam."

"The duplicity of the west is obvious,” Recep Tayyip Erdogan said at a press conference on Monday evening. “As Muslims we have never sided with terror or massacres: racism, hate speech, Islamophobia are behind these massacres.”

His punchline: "The culprits are clear: French citizens undertook this massacre and Muslims were blamed for it,” he added.

The FT is confused: "Although political leaders in Turkey have repeatedly condemned the attacks on the Charlie Hebdo magazine, a Jewish supermarket and a policewoman, a parallel narrative has emerged in the country, with conspiracy theorists blaming the murders on foreign intelligence agencies rather than radical Islamists."

It's not just the French who were said to be behind the attack: so is Mossad:

Melih Gokcek, mayor of Ankara for the ruling AK party, said on Monday that “Mossad [the Israeli intelligence service] is definitely behind such incidents . . . it is boosting enmity towards Islam.” Mr Gokcek linked the attacks to French moves towards recognising Palestine.

 

Ali Sahin, a member of Turkey’s parliament and foreign affairs spokesman for the AK party, last week set out eight reasons why he suspected the killings were staged so that “the attack will be blamed on Muslims and Islam”.

But back to Erdogan:

In his own remarks on Monday, Mr Erdogan added: “Games are being played throughout the Islamic world”. He expressed bewilderment that French intelligence services had not followed the culprits more effectively.

The FT is further confused that Turkey is not the only place which has dared to offer conspiratorial theories: Russia is too.

In Russia, some pro-Kremlin commentators sought to link the killings to geopolitical machinations by the US. 

 

Komsomolskaya Pravda, one of Russia’s leading tabloids, ran the headline: “Did the Americans stage the terror attack in Paris?” and posted a series of interviews on its website that presented various reasons why Washington might have organised the attack. 

 

In one interview, Alexander Zhilin, head of the pro-Kremlin Moscow Centre for the Study of Applied Problems, claimed the terror attack was US retribution against President François Hollande for a January 6 radio interview in which Mr Hollande urged the EU to lift sanctions against Russia.  Washington used the attacks as “a quick fix for consolidating” US and EU geopolitical interests in Ukraine, Mr Zhilin claimed.

The FT is most stunned that in Russia the events in Charlie Hebdo are being equated to the 9/11 tragedy:

For the last 10 years, so-called Islamist terrorism has been under the control of one of the world’s leading intelligence agencies,” Alexei Martynov, director of the International Institute for New States, a think-tank, told pro-Kremlin internet outlet LifeNews. “I am sure that some American supervisors are responsible for the terror attacks in Paris, or in any case the Islamists who carried them out.”

Whatever could have given the Russian this idea...

 

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Tue, 01/13/2015 - 13:57 | 5655913 Gringo Viejo
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I'm burned out on assbackward, 3rd world pieces of shit. Nuke 'em and let's get on with life.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:00 | 5655925 So Close
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If the law's against you pound the facts.  If the facts are against you pound the law.  If the law and facts are against you pound the table.  This is table pounding.

 

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:00 | 5655936 Deathrips
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And Turkey moves more to the east.

 

Come on Turkey lead the charge out of NATO. Germany will follow you!

 

Many will follow.

 

RIPS

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:03 | 5655951 Latina Lover
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Once in a while a president of a country will say something meaningful. Thank you Erdogan.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:09 | 5655967 knukles
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And we wait....
Doesn't matter who did or did not do it.  (To paraphrase Hillary, at this point)
What's important is that Fearless Leaders World Wide look like a buncha Keystone Cops.

Their true colors are showing; Emperors, no clothes, caught practicing French kissing with the family dog or masturbating by your mom, that sorta stuff

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:09 | 5655983 bob_stl
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It ain't cool to be a jive turkey so close to Thanksgiving.

Yeah...

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:12 | 5656023 Haus-Targaryen
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So he choose the Ruskies.  

Well, there is an American embassy in Ankara, so expect another color revolution in short order.  

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:19 | 5656053 whotookmyalias
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And mankind marches towards the cliff of self destruction.  Like the comment below says, it doesn't matter who done it, and in some cases the truth doesn't matter at all because it is probably more complex than people realize. What matters is knowing who to trust and who not to trust, and I don't know that either so I pretty much don't trust any of them.

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-13/turkish-presidents-stunning-out...

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:25 | 5656119 Headbanger
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OK,  Which one of you is really  the president of Turkey!?

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:28 | 5656135 aiaiai
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Your momma stupid goy.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:35 | 5656179 BellyBrain
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My last comment on all of this.  The whole thing is obviously fake if you look at photos and videos of the event.  The cop wasn't shot AT ALL (look it up on liveleak), it looks like a blank, and it was aimed at the ground.  Jim Stone has a lot of good analysis of that video. 

The Heebdo office had one single bullet hole in a window.  The inside of the office had no blood at first, then there was a photo of some fake-looking blood poured on the floor under a chair, but zero blood anywhere else, including on the chair or on the desk.

The "shootout" at a Jewish Deli is just badly scripted drama, start to finish.

So yes, this looks like yet another staged event where probably nobody died (except for the patsies).  Yes, cia/mossad do this shit all the time and they did it again because they needed more fuel for their "war on terra."

Stop believing in "alternative" media like this site or AJ, Dice and all the other "big" sites. They all work against us.  Look at the actual images and videos and draw your own conclusions.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:39 | 5656223 BaBaBouy
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WOW...USa/EU Gots' A New ENEMY...

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:49 | 5656296 BaBaBouy
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One Step Closer To The Turkish GOLD Dinar And The ""UNDOLLARIZATION""...

 

""UNDOLLARIZATION""

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 15:07 | 5656392 actionjacksonbrownie
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Anyone remember this?

 

Serb TV station was legitimate target, says Blair

 

Tony Blair, in Washington for Nato's 50th anniversary summit, insisted that bombing television stations was 'entirely justified'

 

'This is a war, this is a serious conflict, untold horrors are being done. The propaganda machine is prolonging the war and it's a legitimate target.'

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 15:18 | 5656469 Billy the Poet
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Erdogan himself was caught proposing a false flag attack against Syria not so long ago:

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-27/here-youtube-false-flag-attack-...

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 15:48 | 5656629 ACP
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So, Erdogan blames Mossad, then blames French citizens for the attack, then blames Islamophobia?

MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND!

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 17:08 | 5657066 weburke
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Erdogan knows he is dead if he opposes his bosses, so he was probably told to say this.** Lets see him end his cooperation with israel.** Not likely. He was probably given this role to give him street cred. Hardly matters as there are plenty of islam radicals to be blamed for the coming "islamic anger at the west" to get us into whatever disasters the elites want. Well, angry muslims are wanted, mission accomplished.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 17:21 | 5657127 Heavy
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"If you see something, say something."

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:59 | 5657596 SuperRay
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Dont miss the real issue here, which is that Turkey just pulled an Nuland - Fuck the EU and the USSA!  That's the good news.  That and the Greeks pulling back the curtain a little.  Things are starting to unravel faster and faster...

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 03:51 | 5659008 Paveway IV
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Erdogan is going full Gaddafi.

NEVER go full Gaddafi. 

On the other hand...

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 19:03 | 5657604 Muh Raf
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Meanwhile, the 'depressed' police chief of Limoges was trying to obtain an EU arrest warrant on Obongo. http://www.thetotalcollapse.com/french-police-commissioner-suicided-afte...

 

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 20:08 | 5657854 Billy the Poet
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Unsubstantiated speculation. No documentation.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 21:46 | 5657875 nmewn
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lol..."The culprits are clear: French citizens undertook this massacre and Muslims were blamed for it,”

Yeah, "French citizens" who just happened to be...Muslim.

What a fucking idiot.

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Wut?

To my down voting tribe of illiterates, have I placed my index finger on something here? What is this Turkish mayor saying then, is he talking about "white skinned" French citizens or is he saying Muslims cannot be French citizens? What did he just expose then, his superior intellect or his own bigotry?

All the attackers were French AND Muslim...dumbasses.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 22:29 | 5658325 ACP
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Apparently this article has attracted a whole shitload of sharia-lovers, who are apparently happy to be given 1000 lashes for saying something islam deems an insult to the pig-boy prophet.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 22:46 | 5658388 nmewn
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Oh yeah man, its latest thing.

Its like your normal everyday "progressive" university campus, where group-think is completely normal and something to be admired, promoted and aspire to, so you can be "in the clique".

Cept here, you don't lose your head when the Sharia PC Campus Police show up ;-)

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 22:50 | 5658399 ACP
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I bet most would be more than happy to give the few sane folks "down-swords" as opposed to "down-arrows" for being infidels.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 23:03 | 5658443 nmewn
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Maybe so, maybe even die trying ;-)

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 23:32 | 5658460 ACP
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<--- Hebdo was a Mossad false flag

<--- Hebdo was perpetrated by Islamic terrorists

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...and FUCK ERGODAN and his fascist Islamists!

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BWAHHAHAA! How do the false flaggers vote now???

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 03:38 | 5658989 COSMOS
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I mean if the Mossad can get one million French Jews to move to the West Bank, Golan Heights, and some more parts of Syria, its a win win.

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 05:23 | 5659087 Element
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Fry pan --> fire

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 20:14 | 5657865 thebigunit
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The false flag was itself a false flag.

So, it really was true. 

Except, that the narrative which the second false flag tricked people into believing was really a false flag from the beginning, so none of it was ever true.

So, go back to your homes.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 21:02 | 5657893 nmewn
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Aha! The old duo inverted false flag-false flag trick. I knew it! I'm off to Raqqa on some Christian missionary work now.

Wish me luck!

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Crickets? ;-)

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 05:26 | 5659091 Element
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You just want a front seat at megido. ;)

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 02:55 | 5658943 NordikAvenger
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good point - thanks for that trip down memory lane.  Almost forgot about that.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:47 | 5656284 Buckaroo Banzai
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There is a decent chance this is some kind of manipulated event. How can we be sure that the people who committed the crimes (who were masked) are the same ones that were killed later? The murderers were very well trained in tactical movement, marksmanship, and small-unit tactics. How did a couple of humps who were never in the military get that kind of training? The fact that IDs were left behind is an obvious, obvious tell of a frame-up. Not saying it happened that way but it sure is following a shopworn script.

I am not a fan of Islam, it is a violent and deranged political ideology, but the Koran's violent rhetoric makes it a great smokescreen for imposters to hide behind.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 16:33 | 5656854 Boondocker
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I and others are more than capable of training them far beyond the levels of skills shown on the footage.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 17:08 | 5657068 mkkby
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Hey folks, this is a POLITICIAN talking.  All he's doing is playing to his constituents.  Like every politician, everywhere, every day.

He probably called Nutty yahoo and Obongo and told them what he was going to say, so they'd know not to take it seriously.  They just smiled because they do the same thing, EVERY FUCKING SPEECH

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:18 | 5657420 junius
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This turkey is on his way to being a psychopath and is alredy a power hungry tyrant who uses Islam as his vehicle.  He should be taken out by the Turkish army.  You know -- to dinner or cocktails or...whatever

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 19:40 | 5657770 Keyser
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The entire affair stinks of Mossad / CIA... As the US continues to lose power, these events will escalate as the tribe tries to maintain control and keep the people in fear...

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 16:36 | 5656873 disabledvet
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How can we be sure no one in the USA cares?

 

I know....just ask them.

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 00:16 | 5658644 jeff montanye
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they don't care, possibly because they don't know.  try to find anything about those eight reasons why ali sahin thinks this was a false flag.  google finds essentially nothing: http://www.google.com/search?q=ali%20sahin%20eight%20reasons&ie=utf-8&oe...

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 16:57 | 5657018 QQQBall
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B/c they left their passports in the car?

 

sarc/ (just in case)

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:15 | 5657391 Counterpunch
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And the day before 9/11 - some of the hijackers were drinking and gambling and they left the Koran behind because they were devout Muslims on a suicide mission who hate us for our freedom.

 

 

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:41 | 5657521 shovelhead
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Where is everyone seeing this mythical training?

Walking aroung with an AK looks like training?

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 00:03 | 5658602 MoneyPowerWomen
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the grouping in the car window was very impressive, considering the stress they should have been under, it being their first time and all

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 05:48 | 5659108 Element
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Well how do you explain the black pajamas then?

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 19:09 | 5657654 Iwanttoknow
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BB,You are actually growing a brain or what?

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:48 | 5656286 Herd Redirectio...
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Spain, Germany, Turkey, Russia.  That is one decent alliance.

But Germany has been so mindfucked the last 60 years they don't know what is up and what is down right now.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:21 | 5657436 robobbob
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you can train a dog to fetch, but you can't train them to be a bird.

if pushed too far, we'll see if they slip their leash and bite the hand holding it.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 20:05 | 5657843 walküre
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it's happening, slowly.. the old guard is about done

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 15:17 | 5656451 Clarabell
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Why would they want to screw up a perfectly good false flag operation by using blanks and so called "crisis actors" ? I'm sure they have no problem killing anyone who is in the wrong place at the wrong time including cops. Dead men tell no tales. The idea that the would try to stage a fake massacre doesn't make any sense.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 15:23 | 5656490 Billy the Poet
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Makes sense but did you see the video? Guy was supposedly shot with an AK from inches away. You can even see the muzzle blast but there is no impact, no blood, nothing.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 16:39 | 5656887 MsCreant
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Any rifle, there would be blood sprayed all over. AK 47, at that range, should have opened his skull up. You use an AK for power and durability/reliability, not for precision. It will crack a cement block at 400 yards. If a car is driving up on you, aim your AK at the engine, you have an excellent chance of fucking it up, bad. At that range, his head should not exist. 

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 17:03 | 5657038 spankfish
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Well... this about explains it when a 7.62X39 meets anything that resembles soft tissue, including fruit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHPjdwRr_to

 

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 17:18 | 5657109 spankfish
Tue, 01/13/2015 - 23:00 | 5658437 jwoop66
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Yes.  That was a good example of what happens at close range to something hit with that round.  Conspiracies annoy me, but that cop just didn't look like he'd been shot that close with even a small caliber round, let alone 7.62. 

 

 

fishy.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 23:02 | 5658441 Luckhasit
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Thank you MsCreant for telling it like it is.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 15:50 | 5656643 actionjacksonbrownie
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The head shot to the cop laying on the sidewalk completely missed. You can see the puff of dust where the "shot" impacted the sidewalk beside the victim's head. But, it was a blank, not a bullet round. A bullet into the sidewalk would have kicked up a pretty good spray of cement and left a small crater in the sidewalk - yet we saw neither.

 

The cop "killing" is exactly the same as Building 7 on 911 - it is the damning evidence that the whole thing is staged.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 17:42 | 5657209 Shaznardickleze...
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If people can't see this now, they'll never see it next time.

http://i.imgur.com/NGH5Mh7.jpg

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:15 | 5657405 Counterpunch
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you dont have to look at the sidewalk.

 

Look at the guys arms.  They don't do what they do if he's shot - naked, untrained eye can see that.

 

 

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 19:42 | 5657777 Oldwood
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The only way we will know for sure is through a reenactment. Any volunteers?

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:19 | 5657421 king leon
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You need to get out more.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 16:25 | 5656820 monkeyshine
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Cui Bono? 

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 17:45 | 5657236 ross81
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definetly not the Islamic World. Only Western regimes as far as i can see.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 17:10 | 5657073 Hot Shakedown
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Well said. Thank goodness for Erdogan. This decade will see Zionists DISAPEAR from the planet.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 23:44 | 5658552 trentusa
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yea u r right I found it & that's some bullshit. There was no blood. Getting shot at close range w/ an AK should def produce SOME recoil of the head and SOME blood. Really blood, bone, skin, & brains ought to be sprayed all over the sidewalk but there is NOTHING- this is PG-13. That cop that got supposedly shot isn't even a good actor. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc6_1420632668

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 07:05 | 5659174 Crash N. Burn
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"The cop wasn't shot AT ALL (look it up on liveleak), it looks like a blank, and it was aimed at the ground."

Here's that piece of theatre slowed down.

 

Charlie Hebdo Shootings - Censored Video

 

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 07:59 | 5659250 overmedicatedun...
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crash, I guess all that blood in the offices was just hollywoood tricks, and by the way they buried that cop alive I guess ...grow up. (I do not deny false flags not after the gulf of tonkin bs, but you are stupid to think this killing was fake.)

Thu, 01/15/2015 - 01:25 | 5663600 Real Estate Geek
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Deleted.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:36 | 5656189 Headbanger
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Lick my shit and die jerk off.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:37 | 5656209 Fun Facts
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Netanyahoo is that you?

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:40 | 5656240 aiaiai
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In that case.

Shabat Shalom to Headbunger. Hihihihihihihihi.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 16:46 | 5656926 MsCreant
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An effigy. How quaint.

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 02:52 | 5658936 Vylahkinnen
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Yeah. It's terrible. All these Muslim attacks are planned by the almighty Mossad. And of course - all these videos and eyewitness reports are clearly fake. Because I was at a shooting range and I've seen a lot of Hollywood movies and my Norwegian husband served in Afghanistan - these are my credentials as renowned International weapons expert (you can find this also on my Linkedin Profile). And that whole scene was clearly staged. That "killed" Muslim cop - Ahmed Merabet - he was in on the joke. And his wife. And his kids. And his colleagues - man they must envy him so much - cause he's probably now on permanent vacation. Man what a lucky bastard. And Jordi Mir, the engineer who took the video and later publicly regretted this. And of course - his Muslim brother. That burial of that Ahmed Merabet looked fake too. I mean - let's face it - Ahmed Merabet probably never existed. And there are hundreds of actors who pose as Muslims and as Cops and as Terrorists - when in reality they are clearly Jewish people and paid handsomely by the Mossad. And that's why Benjamin Netanyahu wasn't welcome in Paris.

Also fake - these Syrian war videos - they are made by a professional studio in Tel Aviv - cause clearly heads don't always explode. And the blood looks fake too.

In case you don't get it. I am sarcastic. Like everyone else here on ZH.

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Wed, 01/14/2015 - 10:24 | 5659645 MsCreant
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For the record, I never said this was or was not staged. I don't know in fact. I gave an opinion up thread on the evidence I saw. 

If it was full metal jacket ammo vs. hollow or soft point, there is more of a chance of a small entry and exit wound. It might take a minute for blood to appear. But still, there should have been some destruction to the concrete on the exit side of the wound. Those guns are "thugs." Nothing dainty about them.

So it is an odd video. Just because I question, with others, what that looked like, does not mean I think the whole thing is a Mossad set up. I will validate someone who is questioning the evidence and let them know I question it too and why.

Our governments have done so much to hang on to power, I can't just say "You are being absurd" cleanly to folks who do believe this stuff. The government has done much, as individuals and as a collective, to earn our distrust. 

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 15:37 | 5661327 Vylahkinnen
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Fair enough. We can agree upon that governments occasionally (and some regularly) lie. We've seen that many times in the recent past. And I would not belittle people that do not trust their respective government. But some people here blow this out of proportion. And that's why I can't resist to be sarcastic and to be a counterpoint. Especially when Erdogan is involved and utters such a ridiculous thought (well for him it would not be the first time).

On a side note: I am also not against free speech or being overly PC. I like ZH policy of not deleting comments. But I also dislike antisemitic comments and I will always voice my dissent. I am not Jewish. My family was considered to be Aryan by the Nazi standard. And I absolutely support constructive criticism about the wrongdoings of the state of Israel. I am even to some point anti-establishment and very critical of contemporary media.

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 19:00 | 5662310 MsCreant
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We are very similar on many traits. I too am Aryan. I too see evil in both Muslim and Isreal stances. Both of them have extremist factions that are able to do evil. I am careful not to over generalize. I like me some Jews and some Arabs, dang nab it! I dispair at how attached folks are to their positions when they are based on hate. 

I hope you noticed I was not being supportive of the fake jew character someone decided to take on up thread. 

Thu, 01/15/2015 - 08:08 | 5664088 Vylahkinnen
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I am beginning to like you. Feels weird and wrong. But you are reasonable and rational. You are also not shy about your sexuality. Mhm. A well-educated woman between 40 and 50. Probably married. Maybe with kids. PhD and probably links to an American academy. Maybe a teacher? Or a researcher? Professor? I don't know your system that well. Anyway...it's starting to get creepy and you probably left more clues on this site as a regular member. So, let's make it short while we still can. Well, I hereby declare that I officially like you. And yes, I noticed it. I am sorry if I was a bit harsh on my part. But I am aggressive from time to time. It's my way of dealing with things. I am a neck biter.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 15:03 | 5656269 Slave
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You neocons really need to just stick to FOXNews.com

Why cop loving, war loving, murder loving, Jew loving physcopaths hang around ZH is beyond me.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 15:45 | 5656620 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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if they left all that would be left is closed-mind, jew-haters like yourself that seem to be as inclusive in their own club as the tribe is to their own... two pieces of the same cloth if you really get down to it....

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:44 | 5657531 NidStyles
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Jews are not a tribe asshat. They are a sect of the Hebrew people that practice the ideology of Judas.

"Kill thy brother if you must to get ahead".

 

Some of you should really read more history.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 19:10 | 5657656 Tall Tom
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Actually it is YOU that needs a History lesson.

 

First the offspring of Judah (NOT JUDAS), one of the TWELVE SONS of Jacob (Israel) are the Jews.

 

Likewise the offspring of Benjamin were Benjamites, the offspring of Levi are the Levites, etc. etc. etc.

 

These offspring were considered to be the TRIBES of Israel (the offspring of Jacob)

 

Then, according to the HISTORY, if you had bothered to READ IT, you will find that the Kings of Israel went to war against the Kings of Judah.

 

And then...

 

Now I can recite ancient Biblical History here and do that for hours upon hours. I can back up everything which I reported with the Holy Scriptures...to what point?  So I have much better and more profitable tasks to do rather than that.

 

It is EMPIRICALLY EVIDENTIAL that you know little of the Judeo-Christian faith, or History, as you write utter nonsense.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 19:19 | 5657691 shovelhead
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I can recite 'The Night Before Christmas'.

And the point would be the same.

Who cares?

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 20:40 | 5657960 Tall Tom
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As you replied it is empirically demonstrable and evidential that you care.

 

The point would not be the same.

 

Now you can deny empiricism all that you want.

 

But it will not amount to any change whatsoever. Your delusion will still continue.

 

Or you can accept the Truth and obtain Liberty and Freedom from your bondage.

 

You can make that choice regardless of the final outcome.

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 10:27 | 5659656 Scoobywan
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The bible is not history.

Citing it as such does not make it.

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 11:11 | 5659898 Tall Tom
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That is funny as even archaologists have discovered ancient ruins from its pages.

 

From what fine institution are you degreed?

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 21:06 | 5658038 Tompooz
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Sorry Tall Tom, but you need a little language lesson:

Judas is the Hellenized form of "Yehuda", aka Judah, from which the German word Jude and the English word Jew are derived.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 21:57 | 5658206 Tall Tom
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You are correct and I did need correction.

 

From Wikipedia...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_Iscariot

 

In the Greek New Testament, Judas is called ?????? ???????? and ??????????. "Judas" (spelled "Ioudas" in ancient Greek and "Iudas" in Latin, pronounced yudas in both) is the Greek form of the common name Judah (?????, Yehûdâh, Hebrew for "God is praised"). The Greek spelling underlies other names in the New Testament that are traditionally rendered differently in English: Judah and Jude.

 

Thank you.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 17:39 | 5657202 chunga
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Here is the fox news/rush limbaugh crowd bashing away at this ZH article.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3246438/posts

Check out the zero hedge comments on this because the level of imbecilic Jew-hatred is through the roof there. Mostly from Ron Paul types. As soon as you see the words “false flag” you know the poster is an imbecile

These people also argue the merits of mitt romney, jeb bush, blah blah it's mental.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 17:57 | 5657287 Tall Tom
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Well at first they ignore you,

then they ridicule you...

 

So we have matriculated?

 

It is going to be a long war...a very long war.

 

But the Truth shall prevail and set those whom accept it, no matter how extraordinarily ugly, FREE from the hedgemon, the Beast..

 

For Liberty's sake...

 

 

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:11 | 5657376 chunga
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I find it hard to believe that at one time I thought the same way these GOP rw'ers do. Now, it just gets me super pissed off. I'm very reluctant to talk about politics with anybody for fear of losing my temper. If CWII does come I think there will be a lot more than just 2 teams.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:33 | 5657483 Tall Tom
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Well it does not have to follow the path of a Hot War. Civil War II still might not manifest as a Hot War. That has not been decided or crystalized. 

 

Yet Civil War II already has manifested. It is currently a war for our minds.  

 

The optimal outcome is peaceful Balkanization.

 

As to the likelihood of that outcome we do have the relatively peaceful balkanization of the former USSR. There were regional conflicts, as Serbia, but for the most part life just muddled onward.

 

But there will be some bloodletting and suffering as the adjustments are made.

 

But cracks are appearing in the Hedgemonic Empire of America. It will decay from the satelites to the core. That is the general pattern.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:19 | 5657416 Counterpunch
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Who the fuck is arguing the merits of Bush or Romney here?

This seems like some asshole who followed a link, doesn't agree with th epolitics he doesn't understand, and decided to cry antisemite.  Exposing Israeli war crimes is not a crime.


Nor is exposing disproportionate power held by a small minority some portion of which has strong loyalties to another state, etc.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 20:30 | 5657935 flapdoodle
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Freerepublic was taken over by AIPAC a long time ago. Strictly short-bus riders these days... actually pretty pathetic.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 22:07 | 5658250 Dame Ednas Possum
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ZH 'extremists'

The new Al Qaeda.

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 17:07 | 5661838 DFCtomm
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I have more respect for Al Qaeda. They actually accomplish, but you...you're a board warrior. You and all the other conspiracy theorists here are a fucking joke.  I've got a conspiracy for you. Perhaps you people are the dupes. They plant a little insane information on the internet and you guys grab it and run with the insantiy. You're nothing but dust being thrown into the air, so that if something is really going on no sane person will be able to see it because of all you dumbasses. Go suck on a radiation cannon you fucking halfwits.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 19:13 | 5657669 shovelhead
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For the everything bagels?

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:32 | 5656141 strannick
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Hows that for an inconvienient truth?

Cue MSM denunciations of Turkeys clowish President, as Langley/Mossad implement their Gladio Part Deux

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:35 | 5656169 Took Red Pill
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It's all starting to fall apart! These false flags are getting harder to pull off.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 16:22 | 5656227 BigJim
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Even if they're not false flags, an increasing number of people are seeing them that way, simply because they're beginning to realise that when it comes to national 'security', their 'leaders' are as dishonest and conniving as they about everything else.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 22:20 | 5658292 SofaPapa
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Well said.  This is about trust, and when it's gone, the game changes.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:49 | 5656298 Buckaroo Banzai
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Really? Frankly, they seem easier to pull off given their increased frequency, and the continuing complete lack of questions being asked by the MSM.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:57 | 5656342 Global Hunter
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Besides the lunchroom at work and some bored retirees nobody watches MSM any longer.  It was on in our lunchroom the news about "Charlie" I noticed one lady watching it and about 25 people ignoring the tv altogether.  

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 15:33 | 5656548 Beowulf55
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those 25 where probably more interested in talking about the game (circus) on Sunday.....doesn't mean they are actually aware of MSM and govt. B.S.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 16:08 | 5656725 Took Red Pill
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@ buckaroo; I meant harder to pull off without people noticing.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 17:22 | 5657129 Hot Shakedown
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The race is on between control of the Internet and wether the true awakening of the masses reaches a level of 12% of the populace / critical mass. Waning Confidence in the "official " story on EVERYTHING is underweigh... Acknowledgment of Zio 911 is reaching a quick conclusion.

It is OVER, however, when the real BIGGIE is acknowledged as false.. And this is gaining steam- which will result in the forced demolishment / razing, with extreme prejudice, of the eyesore propaganda structure on the Washington mall called The Holocaust "museum".

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:40 | 5656235 Sloppy Joe
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The FT is most stunned that in Russia the events in Charlie Hebdo are being equated to the 9/11 tragedy:

For the last 10 years,

 

Huh? 2015-10 = 2005

If FT cant do simple math, what else is it good for?

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 15:18 | 5656467 44magnum
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It a bankster rag that should tell you about their math skills.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 15:34 | 5656554 Herd Redirectio...
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There was a time I would read 'Foreign Affairs' and 'FT' because these are the insider's rags.  But you have to read between the lines constantly.

Quicker to just listen to what an elite insider says, and believe the opposite.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 19:24 | 5657716 shovelhead
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Hedonic adjustment.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:06 | 5657345 king leon
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Brilliant post

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:19 | 5656046 whotookmyalias
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Don't be so quick to believe this clown at face value just because he spouts the opposite of the main stream.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 16:33 | 5656860 Chupacabra-322
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Isn't this the same "Turkey" no Pun intended who was caught wanted to stage a False Flag attack & blame Assad / Syria?

The Douche Baggery amounts these Scum Fucks boggles the mind.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 16:57 | 5657011 maskone909
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We have produced nuclear energy, quantum technology, internet in the palm of your hand, and yet we are still fighting 10000 year old bullshit religious wars forced onto us by the propaganda of our "leaders"

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:44 | 5657538 whotookmyalias
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Some of you are really fucking scary stupid.

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 01:10 | 5658769 Kobe Beef
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Completely agree. I'm a White man, and I have a solar system to colonize. 

Import/Invade the Middle East- get dragged into tribal blood feuds.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 21:01 | 5658022 daveO
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Last month's gas deal will seal his fate.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:13 | 5656037 Four chan
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paranoia is typical to psychopaths and those brainwashed by religion.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:18 | 5656054 where_is the_nuke
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Are talking about Netanyahoo?

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:32 | 5656152 JAFAH
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No, the religion part refers to the general population. I.E. the pope or (insert your

Deitieties

spokesman here) worshipers.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 16:38 | 5656888 Four chan
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lol half the people who read what i said and are still not convinced of the the moronic lunacy of religion.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:50 | 5657562 whotookmyalias
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There is nothing wrong with religion. The issue is blind faith in anything and following like sheep. You can replace religion with politics, sports teams, ideas, etc.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:16 | 5657399 HowdyDoody
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How dare you blaspheme against His Magnificent Noodliness, the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:37 | 5656200 Realname
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You shouldnt speak of the smegmites like that, lest ye be called an anti-smegmite.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:41 | 5656243 BigJim
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I thought the whole point of circumcision is to eliminate smegma? *confused*

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 19:27 | 5657730 shovelhead
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The ladies don't like eating cheese-dogs.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:43 | 5656252 hot sauce technician
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Netanyahu ain't a psycopath. He's a sociopath along the liines of Obama, Cameron etc. Just playing along with the NWO. Ask him if he believes in the messiah. If he answers anything but a total yes then religion isn't a factor in his decisions. Maximum it's short to mid term survival of the Jewish state, because of politics and all that.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 15:26 | 5656509 Clarabell
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Netanyahu's religion is the new Jewish religion based around the sacred belief in the Holocaust and Israel.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 15:46 | 5656627 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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look up sabat zev....  it isn't just a jewish thing anymore... 

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:10 | 5657367 ajax
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He's Not The Messiah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjz16xjeBAA

 

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:17 | 5657406 HowdyDoody
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True, he just aspires to be King David II.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 21:19 | 5658084 Counterpunch
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There was either no David, or he was a petty chieftain.

 

Theres literally zero evidence of a mighty Israeli kingdom.

 

Plenty of Egyptian ruins all over Palestine, though.

 

 

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 18:44 | 5657536 king leon
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Netanyahu Is a 'THUG' full stop.....

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:35 | 5656186 neuronius
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favorite movie lines ever.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:28 | 5656129 JAFAH
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"Do it" is the gatekeepers dream. Keep on keeping on, knuck

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:07 | 5655971 Troll Magnet
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NEVERMIND that the lead police investigator of this attack on Hebdo was promptly SUICIDED.  It was them evil terrists!

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2906808/Police-commissioner-shot...

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:13 | 5656032 McMolotov
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"How conveeeenient." —Church Lady

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:20 | 5656066 Troll Magnet
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Yeah.  The guy gets the case of his life and decides to off himself while conducting his investigation.  You won't see this reported on the Faggington Post, Drudge, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC...Because it happens all the time.  Move along.  Nothing to see here.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:25 | 5656122 MarsInScorpio
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Troll:

 

It's already up on Drudge.

 

Do you think this is going unnoticed?

 

Think again.

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Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:54 | 5656328 Buckaroo Banzai
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It's getting noticed by what, 3% of the population? How many of them, after noticing, will start to put 2 and 2 together?

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 15:08 | 5656409 MarsInScorpio
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Buck:

 

Jaded much  . . . ?

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Tue, 01/13/2015 - 15:23 | 5656488 Buckaroo Banzai
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LOL. All I can say, it has worked for me. Try it yourself, you might be surprised.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 19:59 | 5657830 Troll Magnet
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MarsInScorpio

where the hell on Zionist Drudge is it? 

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 19:12 | 5657662 king leon
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This has to be the biggest fucked up false flag of all time 'Above 911' but when I explain all the fuck up's to my  work mates,'SHEEP' they will look at me like I am stupid.

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:33 | 5656158 Sirius Wonderblast
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Finally reached the Telegraph today.

Wed, 01/14/2015 - 06:42 | 5659145 PrintemDano
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Yea because the massive false flag op forgot to get the lead investigator in on it.   //sarc

Tue, 01/13/2015 - 14:43 | 5656258 Tekrunner
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You should be ashamed of spreading this sort of misinformation. The guy worked as policeman in the center of France, some 600 km away from Paris, and was in charge of a region that has far more cows than people. You really think he was the lead investigator ?

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