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Turkish President's Stunning Outburst: The French Are Behind The Charlie Hebdo Massacre; Mossad Blamed
It was less than 48 hours ago when Turkey’s prime minister, Ahmet Davutoglu, joined millions marching in Paris to pay tribute to the 17 people killed by ISIS-supporting extremists. Then, almost the moment he got back, things changed, and as the FT politely paraphrases what transpired, the "country’s president struck a much more confrontational tone." That's one way of putting it. Another is that the former PM and current president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, of NATO-member Turkey did the unthinkable: accused the west, and French citizens in particular, of staging the Charlie Hebdo murder in order to blame Muslims, even as the mayor of Ankara said "Mossad is definitely behind such incidents . . . it is boosting enmity towards Islam."
"The duplicity of the west is obvious,” Recep Tayyip Erdogan said at a press conference on Monday evening. “As Muslims we have never sided with terror or massacres: racism, hate speech, Islamophobia are behind these massacres.”
His punchline: "The culprits are clear: French citizens undertook this massacre and Muslims were blamed for it,” he added.
The FT is confused: "Although political leaders in Turkey have repeatedly condemned the attacks on the Charlie Hebdo magazine, a Jewish supermarket and a policewoman, a parallel narrative has emerged in the country, with conspiracy theorists blaming the murders on foreign intelligence agencies rather than radical Islamists."
It's not just the French who were said to be behind the attack: so is Mossad:
Melih Gokcek, mayor of Ankara for the ruling AK party, said on Monday that “Mossad [the Israeli intelligence service] is definitely behind such incidents . . . it is boosting enmity towards Islam.” Mr Gokcek linked the attacks to French moves towards recognising Palestine.
Ali Sahin, a member of Turkey’s parliament and foreign affairs spokesman for the AK party, last week set out eight reasons why he suspected the killings were staged so that “the attack will be blamed on Muslims and Islam”.
But back to Erdogan:
In his own remarks on Monday, Mr Erdogan added: “Games are being played throughout the Islamic world”. He expressed bewilderment that French intelligence services had not followed the culprits more effectively.
The FT is further confused that Turkey is not the only place which has dared to offer conspiratorial theories: Russia is too.
In Russia, some pro-Kremlin commentators sought to link the killings to geopolitical machinations by the US.
Komsomolskaya Pravda, one of Russia’s leading tabloids, ran the headline: “Did the Americans stage the terror attack in Paris?” and posted a series of interviews on its website that presented various reasons why Washington might have organised the attack.
In one interview, Alexander Zhilin, head of the pro-Kremlin Moscow Centre for the Study of Applied Problems, claimed the terror attack was US retribution against President François Hollande for a January 6 radio interview in which Mr Hollande urged the EU to lift sanctions against Russia. Washington used the attacks as “a quick fix for consolidating” US and EU geopolitical interests in Ukraine, Mr Zhilin claimed.
The FT is most stunned that in Russia the events in Charlie Hebdo are being equated to the 9/11 tragedy:
“For the last 10 years, so-called Islamist terrorism has been under the control of one of the world’s leading intelligence agencies,” Alexei Martynov, director of the International Institute for New States, a think-tank, told pro-Kremlin internet outlet LifeNews. “I am sure that some American supervisors are responsible for the terror attacks in Paris, or in any case the Islamists who carried them out.”
Whatever could have given the Russian this idea...
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There is hardly a website that doesn't have a mistake or two. That doesn't mean that all of the content is incorrect.
My father and my Uncles, and friend's Fathers and Uncles fought in WW2, I don't need any schooling from you on the subject.
The point of that website is not how many casualties anyone suffered in WW2, other than a certain group that has claimed 6 million casualties since the late 1800s.
Interesting that everyone "knows" that 6 million number, eh?
That's the point.
It means that I cannot trust in the validity of any of the content. It will take me more time and effort to separate the fact from the fiction.
It is interesting how "everyone" knows that 6 Million Number whereas they do not know how many Americans Soldiers died. Jewish losses are more important than American losses, I guess, right?
Except for the fact that I did know how many died in America's War effort....but I am a little exceptional in that regard.
So why is it that YOU know that 6 Million number and yet did not know how many Americans were killed?
You could have vetted your own source.
Because you are repeating what you are told and are not doing any independent research, that's why.
Here's a shirt for you, as a consolation prize:
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Germany lost 5 million dead.......at least 2 million Soviet POWs were starved to death in German captivity
It appears that Erdogan is getting his intel form the Conspiracy loonies here on ZH
or false flag fuckwits
Or just jealous non-Chosenites. Hihihihihihi.
Zionists are the enemy. Jews are not necessarily Zionists. Many are not. Christians can be Zionists, in fact, many of the most rabid Zionists are part of the American Fundamentalist Christian Right. See the USA cognress, they are packed with radical Zionists, and most of them are not Jews.
Israeli should get a free pass at all times because they are Jews? Is that what you are saying? I don't mean to put words in your mouth. But you seem to be able to label anyone not in agreement with you to be anti Jewish.
Can you defend Israel and Zionism? The Jews of Israeli in 2015, for the most part have zero connection with the ethnic peoples who founded Israeli in ancient times. They have no claim to land nobody of their ethnic group ever in history lived in or on.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You're only a zionist if you live in the land. All those christian or american jewish zionists are as zionist as the US economy is free market capitalism. Fact is if you're an observant jew and not living in the land, you are a SINNER, except under specific circumstances. That's why Zionism is equated with Judaism. One is meaningless without the other. Jews in America support Israel not because of zionism but rather because of some ethnic/familial solidarity.
It's ok to be ignorant about history, but it's just plain asshole-ism to publicize that ignorance with baseless claims. Read a little about the ancient history of Judea. The Roman wars. The diasporas in Babylon and Asia minor. Etc etc. After you've done so, then start commenting on ethnicity and the land. Nevermind the exhaustive DNA analyses of various types of Jews. Do you even give a shit enough to do so?
We don't have books about Judea or Jews in the USA... because that would be Racist.
Actually I don't know what the Diaspora of Babylon has to do with it. Jews from the Levant spoke a Semitic Language and laws they adopted seem to come from Sumeria.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Ur-Nammu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi
But you got me on Roman Wars. All we get in the USA is bible stories and movies about Anthony an Cleopatra (who was part Greek as I understand), oh yes and we get some famous plays about Caesar or one of the Caesars.
So tell me what book to look for here.
I actually like the way Jack Burton said that.
If I seriously believed that God set aside a land, a country for me and my people, I would feel obligated to go and live there. How come so many Zionist Jews with their fervent love and patriotic feeling toward Israel stay in the U.S. and refuse to move there?
Absolute garbage.
For decades zionism was external to Palestine and it existed in other countries long before the state of Israel came to be.
And in a large part it still is an external phenomena to Israel (as anyone with an once of honesty would readily acknowledge).
I have known several zionist Jews, I had a girlfriend who for many years was absolutely a zionist Jew, she had spent only three years there, in total, all the rest in Australia. I learned about zionism through direct contact with zionists years before the Internet came to be too, so you can't pretend this is the result of internet babble, it's from real-life stuff mate.
I've also known many fundamentalist Christians who were clearly zionists in political issues, religious views and personal leanings. I have been bombarded, in the West, with endless zionist propaganda for all of my life.
Only now people have steadily woken up to what a deceitful one-eyed crock of shit it all was, and they are not happy about it. The propaganda stopped working. And I'd caution you lot, your lies and denials won't work either, quite the contrary, good luck with that sort of approach.
~"down voters just hate Jews"~
I don't think downvoters are explicitly haters of Jews as much as they are uneducated into what Islam is, where it came from and what exactly it stands for. That said, you can hate Muslims just as much as you hate Jews, (if that is your sort of thing), but that usually flies in the face of "the enemy of my enemy" line of thinking, unless, of course, you ascribe to the "one pox, two houses" mindset.
Okay, I'm wrong. Downvoters are haters of Jews. Apologies to all haters.
lol
i'll second that... LOL too.
Yes, this statement by the Turks falls under the Islamic concept of "Divine Deception."
There was no false flag. Just Mohammedans doing what they've done since the Pedophile Prophet set the example 14 centuries ago. Nothing really more to it.
its time for Erdogan to get out of NATO and take back Saudi Arabia for the Turks where it belongs
Bingo
The Turks have never accepted the collapse of their empire and see themselves as the rightful torchbearers of Islam
They view Arabs as inferior and incapable of self rule
They are thus doing all they can to precipitate the fall of Arab nations
He's a definite liability now, he has a LOT of modern western military tech, some of the latest electronic toys, it's going to be a real problem, Patriot PAC-3, Wedgetail multi-role AWAC, F-35 construction and program participation ... ferk!
They took it from an older book used by an even more evil Kosher tribe!
That trick was in the Torah centuries before Mohammad was a gleam in some Semitic merchant's bloodshot eye.
A problem with your proposed solution is that many of the countries they come from are being cleansed in order to make way for the greater Israel fantasy. Maybe as Dennis Miller once said we should just put all Jews on cruise ships.
Wow, that's a G E N I U S solution. I'm sure that's never been done before.
Shocked, I'm shocked! Round up the usual suspects!
Horseface Ketchup Hound is already on his way to Paris.
How conveeeenient;)
The whole bunch of 'em have proved one of the most fundamental precepts of Quantum Mechanics; that they're a waste of space.
As a Redneck Buddy likes to say,
why are they sucking oxygen on god's green earth?
Haaahh - kick, kick - Haahh......its off to the races. I'm on my way kaiserhoff!
I was just down at the local watering hole showing off my long face. You know me and how I get around the old mares!
Isis logistics wouldn't lie now would he?
LOL
Okay, honestly, down arrow for "LOL", WTF4?
Some people don't think this is funny
Your winnings Sir.
false flag accuasion by fellow NATO member, yikes
"false flag accuasion by fellow NATO member, yikes"
time for a mossad induced plane crash, hottub accident, or compromising photos from the ZWO media.
I doubt the Turkish president will be flying the friendly skies anytime soon, and even if Erdogan was caught naked with a underage boy,....well this is the middle east, LOL.
awesome
Looks like he didn't get the new Dyke Dean's memo on Polictical Correctness.
This could be fun.
Looks like Putin has put a nice big wedge in NATO's southern flank.
nicely put, a wedgie up Erdogen's ass
I was downvoted heavily last Friday when I even contemplated a False Flag attack by the Intelligence Services...
Wake up you dumb fucking sheep...
Wait, you trust the guy who basically does the logistics of Isis? Talk about a fucking sheep.
Look at the video and you will see it as well... It's fucking obvious...
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/01/paris-attack-proven-fake-by...
Yes they would fake a video but really kill France's most famous cartoonists. Edit: had a look at the link... it's fucking stupid. The new video material released today probably also fake? Am I right? http://news.sky.com/story/1407227/new-footage-of-charlie-hebdo-gun-attac...
In order to make an omelet, you have to break "some" eggs.
Contemplating is one thing. Accusing is another. Proving? Now that's when it get's down right interesting.
After seasonal adjusments and revising to an already revised number, it proves you were correct.
hell everything that happens around here is considered a false flag, so what?
Yes. Anyone buying this flimsy bullshit story out of Paris is a buffoon.
That cops head would have exploded like a watermelon. He didnt even move. Therefore, I think it's safe to say he wasn't shot at all.
so demonizing those that disagree is your agenda?
Calling someone a "buffoon" is not demonizing. No agenda either.
I just prefer dealing in facts, not blatant psyops and propaganda. The official story is a joke.
"Yes. Anyone buying this flimsy bullshit story out of Paris is a buffoon. That cops head would have exploded like a watermelon. He didnt even move. Therefore, I think it's safe to say he wasn't shot at all."
agreed but there's more to it than that. If you can find the uncensored full length clip before google takes it down in a game of NSA whack a mole, you will find that it was done in two takes, and the vehicle had it's tires marked on the street so it could be lined up properly for the second take.
This is a clip you will never see in the ZWO media. Youtube is taking it down as fast as people put it up.
So quite literally, this is the smoking gun evidence of another manufactured event. The proof that it was a false flag for anyone who bothers to look into the matter themselves rather than be told what to think by the ZWO.
This video is the WTC7 of Charlie Hebdo.
Those morons can't do anything right.
so give a current link!
Not good if Turkey teams up with Russia. Russia has LONG sought the warm water port and this would be their dream. The west best be thoughtful here.
whatever, they can fucking have it, like Turks and Russians are going to be swapping sisters anytime soon... what a laugh
State sponsored false flag; "same as it ever was" because of state inculcated ignorance of its subjects.
And then this over at the Saker:
http://www.thesaker.net/brainwashed-zombies-and-hypocrites/
"Mossad is definitely behind such incidents . . . it is boosting enmity towards Islam."
What's stunning about that? Francesco Cossiga, president of Italy and the one who blew the whistle on Operation Gladio and had to resign for that, also explained 9/11 attacks:
Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, Francesco Cossiga, has gone public on 9/11, telling Italy’s most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.
Cossiga was elected President of Italian Senate in July 1983 before being winning a landslide 1985 election to become President of the country in 1985.
Cossiga gained respect from opposition parties as one of a rare breed – an honest politician – and led the country for seven years until April 1992.
Cossiga’s tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment and he was forced to resign after revealing the existence of, and his part in setting up, Operation Gladio – a rogue intelligence network under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 60?s, 70?s and 80?s.
Gladio’s specialty was to carry out what they coined “false flag operations,” terror attacks that were blamed on their domestic and geopolitical opposition.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/ex-italian-president-intel-agencies-know-9-...
"What's stunning about that?"
That Erdogan - the sitting leader of Turkey - said it. Former Italian PM Cossiga said it and so has Malaysia's former PM Mahathir Mohamad.
What a dumb shit.
Gotta get them Muslim evildoers, go Jesus YAY Team 'Murka! durrrr
Hold on....turning my raydyo to Hannity....your a great Murkan! No YOU great Murkan! Don't forget ya vote now sheeple!
Amercia is Jesus' Favorite Country ©
look, there's Jesus and then there's 'Murican Jesus... big difference
Murican jesus is responsible for all those great sporting achievements and SuperBowl victories.
True dat.
There's Christianity, and there's "American Chistianity". Someone has got to get these two together.
Well it's all just made up bullshit bottom line anyway.
The terrorists were French citizens, this is not disputable. So, in that respect, he is correct.
What is unacceptable is that Turkey has been giving free passage to French & other Jihadists to fight against the Syrian government, in violation of international law. And giving direct aid and support to the Jihadists there.
Turkey hate Assad. It's their local games. England had cut the Ottoman Empire on parts - Turkey wants their land back
"As Muslims we have never sided with terror or massacres..."
As "muslims", not so much, but as Turkish partners with NATO, well...
if you're in nato you have sided with terrorists, torturers, and massacres
Islam, the religion of peace.
the Israel-worshippers seem to love quoting that line as US-manufactured missiles rain down on Palestinian women and children.
The women and children are merely human shields to the jihadis. Even Mohammed, pedophilia be upon him, would be appalled.
On second thought, he'd probably be giving high-fives all around.
What a reversal of bad fortune for the West!
Erdogan is still quite the paradox considering he's up to his waist in Kurdish and Syrian blood which also forced many Russian companies that have had longstanding business ties to Syria to evacuate more than 2 years ago.
The verdict on this piece of shit isn't out yet.
When he forces the USAF and USA military bases with ballistic warheads out of his Country then I'll believe he's turned the genuine corner and even if that should happen it still wouldn't be enough!
Just as I suspected Mossad in head towels again. What's new?
You know what builds enmity towards islam?
Islam.
the mossad is getting sloppy. A lot of people are noticing. Maybe after their success with the New Pearl Harbor they became overconfident?
Ankara Mayor Gökçek: Mossad is behind Paris attacks
http://www.todayszaman.com/diplomacy_ankara-mayor-gokcek-mossad-is-behin...
Overheard outside a Mossad briefing:
"Holy shit they actually believe it was those Saudi guys we sent pictures of? Damn, we can do anything and those idiots will eat it up."
they think they're gods on earth and they goyim are all donkeys.
We're proving them right.
“Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel,” “In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity.
Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew. Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world; only to serve the People of Israel.
Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat,” Rabbi Ovadia Yosef October-18-2010 during his weekly Saturday night sermon on the laws regarding the actions non-Jews are permitted to perform on Shabbat. The crowd responded with laughter.
"The Gentiles are responsible for this..."
- Ruth $$$Made-off-with-it
What we do know as fact is this, "Mossad will kill anyone, anywhere and in any numbers, if it benefits Israel". This is their founding principle, to operate in the shadows and kill anyone standing in the way of Israeli expansion. This is their creed, not mine. If you do not like what I said anyone, then refute that this IS how Mossad works.
Dancing Israelis , google it! Listen to the witness who called the cops to come get the group of people "filming the twin towers buring, dancing, high fiving each other, and cheering". Does anyone need more information of what the Mossad thinks of us Non-Jews.
plus the official mossad motto is:
"by way of deception thou shalt do war",
which actually fits in quite nicely with this event.
Did you get this off a cereal box?
I think Islam is doing a good enough itself creating enmity inwards.
Tensions in this part of the world just keep getting stronger. It's getting downright scary...
http://www.globaldeflationnews.com/gorbachev-warns-of-major-war-even-nuc...
...and Mrs. Merkel wants them in the EU - good night!
The German government was the primary hold out on allowing Turkey into the EU/Euro currency. No fucking way it will ever happen. Turks are the German's mexicans, cheap labor. The problem has become that they don't assimilate AT ALL. They're permanent fucking muslim trash.
Nuke Mecca.
Ahmet Davutoglu, John Kerry needs your airspace & airport facilities. Please calm down. John is flying out to give you a large check to silence any further media attention. Please, don't say anything until Mr. Kerry arrives with the money.
/Sarc
Ever notice how Muslim leaders say that "some good muslim" will respond to the attacks on islam. But when they do the leaders turn around and say it was the Jews? I guess the Jews are more faithful muslims than the Arabs
Better Scientologists, too!
See: Rotterdam mayor.
‘It is incomprehensible that you can turn against freedom, but if you don’t like freedom, for heaven’s sake pack your bags and leave. If you do not like it here because some humorists you don’t like are making a newspaper, may I then say you can FVCK OFF!’
- Ahmed Aboutaleb, Mayor of Rotterdam, to Muslims, ON LIVE TV
Spot on.
and the jews would go to where, you anti semite? always picking on jews. look at what everyone says about the jews. poor jews.
@Bumbu Sauce Great comment, thanks. That's just exactly what I was thinking: if you don't like it in Europe then get the fuck out! Go to North Africa, go to where you think you will be welcomed with open arms if you think Europe is such an injust part of the world.
I have news for you. Jews are just another tribe of Arab.
Never ... go full retard
I didn't downvote you btw, I could not bring myself to
Turks are loud. Their coffee sucks. And generally speaking, while they are great warriors, they are stupid.
You cannot negotiate with them.
I am sure there are one or two good ones.
But I haven't met them.
They smell too.
Turkish men are a very hairy lot. If you take a Turkish man and shave him, he will, in fact and most surprisingly, look exactly like a Frenchman.
And therein lies the root of the enmity
That's fuckan funny knucks. Why the downvotes?
Come on you pussies...
My College roommate was Turksh and you are an idiot.
You have never bought a Turkish Rug then..its all negociations
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sandy-hook-families-sue-newtown-schools...
Money heals wounds.
Well, they can sue the Pakis too, what with that one kid dying in both places!
... >>> "one kid dying in both places" ...
... yes, Sandy's Hoax ... :)
"President of Turkey dies using nail gun building a boat" Film at 11
Another loud-mouthed NATO member looking for some hush money.
What have the US done ? Foster conflicts around EU to make it insecure and ensure it does not become a competitor. With inside help (UK, "new Europe", promotion of ineffective EU government). Same book as the British between WWI and WWII, different players. But there is no way there could be a direct involvement by US or Mossad or any state, for that matter. Way too risky. So much to the chagrin of Erdogan, some Muslims did it.
Might be true... but that does not make muzzys any less toxic
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/01/13/sky-news-reporter-makes-freudian...
As time goes on it will be Muslims against the rest of the world....they want it all...the question is do we have the balls to say no and stop them...or will we just let them take over and kill us all...in the name of multicuturalism...how many beheadings can we take every week...??? 1...50...1000 it will come to that
About wanting it all, what about our own PTB?
As to beheadings, they are still way behind Mexico over the past 10 years.
Neither of those two topics shall be discussed in polite company.
Are you effing kidding me? The scuzlims have been head chopping since 634 AD. The severed head count from Christian Northern Africa alone would make the Mexitrash blush.
Once again the world is presented with two different view points. How much control and power does America have left to ensure their POV gets swallowed as truth? America has run out of ammo. The tale of a strong economic recovery is pure bullshit propaganda. The global economy is in the crapper but America with a mountain of debt only rivaled by the whore Kardashian's inflated ass is going strong? Gimme a break.
Any wonder why this nation is the laughing stock of the world? The latest expression of oppulence and wealth is the inflation of ASS MEAT. If that is not indicative of what America represents, I don't know what is. Don't think this is not catching on. This is the new trend. Americans are pumping up their asses.
Why doesn't Charlie Hebdo make that a cover of their magazine?
Depends on the audience.
Yesterday I was at a client and overheard them talking about how "great" Obama's new "free" community college thing is going to be. Yes, these people own and operate their own business.
Last week I was at another client and a guy paid his medical bill with a subsidized medical card before he left in his, apparently, new Cadillac SRX.
At least in the People's Republic of Massachussets the audience is full on swallowing it all hook, line, and sinker.
All paid with money from thin air and earnings achieved by exploiting everyone under the American jackboot. Everyone knows it.
Having to endure the nauseating and obnoxious claims of superiority is sickeing already but the ridicule of America on the rest of the world is just over the top. At least the Romans really brought something to the table and could back up their claims as a superior nation. The Romans deserved the title empire for the most part as did the Greeks.
I'd expect nothing less from the Bawstan Strawng crowd... I hope the Pats get utterly ass raped by the Seahawks in the Super Bowl, that would make my year
it would be more savory for the colts to beat them sunday
Looks like Netanyahu and Erdogan are playing the good cop bad cop role, say anything to keep the accommodation of Muslim hordes in the EU open, its good for rents and profits.
Muslms and Jews agree profits trump all, as long as you're not personally receiving bullets at the moment all is well, economic growth is good even hostile parasite Muslim growth
Well ZH, as we can all see the "conspiracy theories" based on emotional knee-jerks can cut both ways.
Mossad is now being blamed by Erdogan's mayor of Istanbul.
We can see that this satire which targets obscurantist fanaticism-- as Charlie Hebdo is NOTORIOUS for taking down the French church and the french extreme right party-- for the same reasons.
They are radically satirical on all issues which betray their conception-- as iconised by Voltaire-- of the rights of free speech and secular logic.
Are we entering a cyber war of "conspiratorial trolling" on a global sclae?
When bull-shit dances cheek to cheek with bull-shit, i feel like flying out of the cuckoo cage.
Lay on your back, position the legs so you can suck off your kosher penis. Cum into your mouth and daydream it was Bill Clinton.
/good-bye wanker
I ain't kosher but I try to stay sane.
What about U ?
Check the unclassified documents about the Operation Northwoods, which was supposed to create a pretext for attacking Cuba.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/northwoods.html
Alexei Martynov: "A crisis manager was elected"
Technically he's right tho. They were French citizens, no?
Wait until Americans figure out the America is satan's foot
In the door.
I'm not going to have an opinion until I hear what Mr. Panos has to say about it.
' Peek thru the bathroom door
did you ever, did you ever
see your sister in the raw . .'
CCR
All Hail Ming
All Hail Vichy DC
I cannot remember another period in my life when stupidity and evil have conspired so much to produce such dangerous leaders worldwide.
Wow...state-sponsored wackoism!
Those stupid goys developed that as a defence mechanism against our Homeland sponsored Chonesim. But those stupid goys, what do they know. Brother, we will return to our Chosen homeland and rule the world. Shabat Shalom. Hihihihihihihihi.
Wait, I thought we were at peace with West Asia.
What a kook. He needs to keep his cool as to his sympathies like Obama does.
So is Erdogan a regular ZH poster?
I wasn't sure what to make of the Russia Turkey gas pipeline deal a few weeks ago but these comments suggest to me that Turkey is pivoting firmly from the West/HATO to the East/BRICS.
Apologies to any above me who made this comment...going back to read the posts now.
... like I'd mentioned before, Mr. Erdogan, The best part of waking up is opening your eyes ...
... and if you must, you have to learn the rules of the game ... and then you have to false-flag it better than anyone else ...
" Then, almost the moment he got back, things changed"
Could his own intelligence services had new information ready for him when he returned? My thoughs on the brothers who carried out the killings. The two were known and proven terrorists, aleady been to court and jail on terror charges. Yet we are told, French police dropped surveillance of the two due to being too busy to continue it. Nope, I'm not lying, the media has been full of stories over why French police stopped surveillance of them, and it was because they were busy with more imporatant things!
Do you see where I am heading with this. That is NOT a valid excuse for leaving the two terror brothers the freedom to operate and arm for the act. No way, this doesn't add up. Unless we consider they were left alone Knowing they would carry out an act of terror.
Remember Boston? Two warnings by Russian intelligence to the FBI that those two brothers were known to associate and meet with top terror leaders in Russia and Chechnya. FBI did nothing, nothing at all.
Exucse us for doubting the offical stories, because the offical stories suck!
9/11, lets give that a thought. Reports of a coming terror attack on Rice's desk, on Bush's desk. Reported to be "on American soil". A counter terrorism director running around with his "hair on fire" over a coming terror attack. Known Arabs in flight schools learning to fly, but not land or take off jet liners. One of these, arrested by a FBI agent before 9/11, but FBI headquarters denied her the right to examine the suspects computer. I maintain that the government May Have Let 9/11 Happen, knowing this Peral Harbor event would give Neocons a blank check to start a world wide terror war, invade Iraq and full spectrum spy on all Americans.
Nothing out leaders say adds up. Nobody could have known? Nobody could guess two French brothers convicted of terror related charges would arm themselves and attack? Police were too busy is the official line. In Boston, Russia could not be trusted becasue Chechen terror was part of CIA policies. 9/11, a terror pilot in jail and FBI orders No Search or follow up?
Do any of you believe the official government lines on any of this? These terror attacks have given governments blank checks to start a Police State and World Wide war.
... >>> "Do any of you believe the official government lines on any of this?" ...
... you mean government lies? ... :) ... and to think that government lies get to crap around the world before the truth has a chance to fart is indeed a "blank check" to start a false-flagged war ...
Jack Burton, thank you for the commentary.
When I watched the video of the supposed shooting of the police officer, I knew immediately it was BS. Anyone who has shot an AK 47 or AR , targeting at close range an object such as a can, metal plate, tree or fruit sees an immediate and devastating result. Check out the following video and form your own opinion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOhsvDKN0rc
Note that many of the original versions have already been taken down by youtube and google.
this one is good too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InhNz6VqhAo
makes me wonder why the patsies went to the factory waiting for certain death?
Jack, it would appear that Russia's Intel people gave/showed proof of the real perps of the Paris attack to their Turkish counterparts, who promptly informed Endrogen upon his return.
See Winston's comment above.
Exactly. ANd look at our culture: Competition, Responsiblity, Hard Work, Most PRoductive nation on Earth.
Yet
- when Sub-Prime Housing Blows up
- When US Derivatives screw the world in 2008-09
- When 911 Attacks Occur
- When we have lengthy lists of Financial & Banking Scandals
- When we have ENRON, Arthur Andersen, Washington Mutual, Bernie Madoff, Adelphia Communications, Tyco, Bayou Hedge Fund Group, Refco, Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers, AIG (2005), AIG (2008), Dynegy, WorldCom, Long-Term Capital Management, Lincoln Savings & Loan, Silverado Savings & Loan, Waste Management Scandal (1998), Healthsouth Scandal, Freddie Mac Scandal(2003), SAYTAM Scandal, Arthur Andersen, and all of their Auditing Firms.
Yet... No one takes Responsibility by Getting Fired or going to Jail in 2008, after 911, intelligence failures or cooking in the War in Iraq. "Who could have known?" All the people competing for Jobs who had the Job to Know and to Watch our Security.
You are Protected ...if you don't get Canned in the USA. DOJ, FBI, SEC, FINRA, Senate & House Armed Services Committees, Intelligence Committees, Finance Committee, Federal Reserve, phufff...
Nice to be an Elite like Jon Corzine and Executives of TBTJ.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_corporate_collapses_and_scandals
http://www.accounting-degree.org/scandals/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accounting_scandals
And the French police chief suicided (no nail gun this time).
"According to media reports, he committed suicide at around 1am on Thursday, within hours of the police debriefing. He used his own police weapon, a SIG-Sauer to “shoot himself in the head”.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/police-commissioner-involved-in-charlie-hebdo-investigation-commits-suicide-total-news-blackout/5424149
Something unlucky like John O'Neil first day on his new job at WTC on 911...
... and the two crack FBI agents "falling" out of helicopter just weeks after their involvement in the capture of the Boston bombing patsy ...
@samsara: WHAT COMPLETE BULLSHIT YOU'RE PEDDLING.
Sorry to be specific versus nebllous, but what fact are you disputing exactly? The fact the guy died? The quote I quoted that said he used a Sig? What?
Just wanted to understand what particular "Bullshit" you are talking about.
or is it just "Cause"?
Or are you disputing that Ex-FBI guy John O'Neil wasn't unlucky having his first day on his new job at WTC in NY, On 9/11/2001?
We are talking about the same John O'Neil that had been tracking Osama, and was frustrated that he wasn't allowed to pounce. You know the guy they forced out of his position and gave him a nice cushy job at WTC?
That bullshit?
You have tied a lot of strings into a neat package. How correct you are is open to debate. What we do not know is considerablle, about each and every situaation you have raised. We will not know for sure for no one is talking.
I will say this however. Whether Turkish Leadership is right or wrong on this issue, NATO and the EU have a HUGE problem. As a currently trusted ally, the Turkish govevernment knows almost all our Military and Geo-political secrets. If Turkey goes away from us, then the Turkish military goes away as well. This is a Global Game Changer for Worlwide, peace, security, Muslim Alliances and the entire ME. Turkey and Egypt were or are the only sanity left in the Muslim World. If the Turkish people have rejected tha Attaturk vision for Turkey we are all in big trouble.
Are you sure the French stopped surveillance on the brothers?
Just like the 911 dancing Jews, the Satanic tribe is probably behind this one, too. Most black ops "aganist" them are usually caused by them!
Are you an MDB 2.0?