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Russia Cuts Off Ukraine Gas Supply To 6 European Countries
Vladimir Putin ordered the Russian state energy giant Gazprom to cut supplies to and through Ukraine amid accusations, according to The Daily Mail, that its neighbor has been siphoning off and stealing Russian gas. Due to these "transit risks for European consumers in the territory of Ukraine," Gazprom cut gas exports to Europe by 60%, plunging the continent into an energy crisis "within hours." Perhaps explaining the explosion higher in NatGas prices (and oil) today, gas companies in Ukraine confirmed that Russia had cut off supply; and six countries reported a complete shut-off of Russian gas. The EU raged that the sudden cut-off to some of its member countries was "completely unacceptable," but Gazprom CEO Alexey Miller later added that Russia plans to shift all its natural gas flows crossing Ukraine to a route via Turkey; and Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak stated unequivocally, "the decision has been made."
Russia plans to shift all its natural gas flows crossing Ukraine to a route via Turkey, a surprise move that the European Union’s energy chief said would hurt its reputation as a supplier.
The decision makes no economic sense, Maros Sefcovic, the European Commission’s vice president for energy union, told reporters today after talks with Russian government officials and the head of gas exporter, OAO Gazprom, in Moscow.
Gazprom, the world’s biggest natural gas supplier, plans to send 63 billion cubic meters through a proposed link under the Black Sea to Turkey, fully replacing shipments via Ukraine, Chief Executive Officer Alexey Miller said during the discussions. About 40 percent of Russia’s gas exports to Europe and Turkey travel through Ukraine’s Soviet-era network.
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Sefcovic said he was “very surprised” by Miller’s comment, adding that relying on a Turkish route, without Ukraine, won’t fit with the EU’s gas system.
Gazprom plans to deliver the fuel to Turkey’s border with Greece and “it’s up to the EU to decide what to do” with it further, according to Sefcovic.
Which, as The Daily Mail reports, has led to a major (and imminent) problem for Europe...
Russia cut gas exports to Europe by 60 per cent today, plunging the continent into an energy crisis 'within hours' as a dispute with Ukraine escalated.
This morning, gas companies in Ukraine said that Russia had completely cut off their supply.
Six countries reported a complete shut-off of Russian gas shipped via Ukraine today, in a sharp escalation of a struggle over energy that threatens Europe as winter sets in.
Bulgaria, Greece, Macedonia, Romania, Croatia and Turkey all reported a halt in gas shipments from Russia through Ukraine.
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As Bloomberg goes on to note, Gazprom has reduced deliveries via Ukraine after price and debt disputes with the neighboring country that twice in the past decade disrupted supplies to the EU during freezing weather.
“Transit risks for European consumers on the territory of Ukraine remain,” Miller said in an e-mailed statement. “There are no other options” except for the planned Turkish Stream link, he said.
“We have informed our European partners, and now it is up to them to put in place the necessary infrastructure starting from the Turkish-Greek border,” Miller said.
Russia won’t hurt its image with a shift to Turkey because it has always been a reliable gas supplier and never violated its obligations, Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak told reporters today in Moscow after meeting Sefcovic.
“The decision has been made,” Novak said. “We are diversifying and eliminating the risks of unreliable countries that caused problems in past years, including for European consumers.”
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That helps to explain today's epic meltup in NatGas futures...
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"They [the Russians] have reduced deliveries to 92million cubic metres per 24 hours compared to the promised 221million cubic metres without explanation," said Valentin Zemlyansky of the Ukrainian gas company Naftogaz.
"We do not understand how we will deliver gas to Europe. This means that in a few hours problems with supplies to Europe will begin."
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Check to you Europe (i.e. Washington)... Because it's getting might cold in Europe...
(and bear in mind the consequences of cold, pissed off Europeans in the past).
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never saw that one coming! and in the depths of winter! who could have guessed?
Nuland: You better not - we brought cookies!
Putin: The Dark Side's cookies are better. Freeze, bitchez.
She's gonna have a bit of trouble baking fresh ones.
maybe she can just borrow some from Grandma Yellen. Grandma Yellen bakes mean cookies.
Is Paris burning?
"Is Paris burning ?"
I suppose that's one way for them to stay warm
Cue the WWII re-enactors.
Perfect timing, eh?
False-flagged 'Charlie Hebdo' attacks, 10,000 troops in the streets of Paris, and all the other shit, and NOW the Putin move.They'll be selling off the Eiffel Tower for scrap iron to China to pay the socialist services bills (just like Greece is selling off its' islands). HAH! I'd like to see the 19 muslim males between the ages of 17 and 34 (the majority with Saudi passports) who fly the planes into THAT one! HELL, the tonnage involved wouldn't even build 5 stories of ONE WTC tower.
By the way, IT WASN'T 'I.S.I.S.' who pulled off the Hebdo shit this time, according to official U.S. MSM propaganda... it was AL-QUAEDA in YEMEN (as they read from their scripts on the A.M. radio today). NEVER MIND the scripted shit on video where the masked Mossad/Saudi/MI6/C.I.A./-trained asshole was repeating that the photographer should TELL EVERYONE that it was I.S.I.S....
Putin is sick of the bullshit that the Western powers have scripted in the Ukraine (I suppose), and is simply re-routing the gas supply in order to protect his peoples' investments. I guess Kiev didn't pay the bill (AGAIN). I fucking HATE the governments who fuck their OWN people over despite their own nation's people's needs [OR the needs of other people in other nations, Vlad]. It's fucking JANUARY in Eastern Europe, and people are going to really, physically, actually FREEZE TO DEATH because of this squabble/power trip shit.
It's not like ANY of this world's nation's leaders give a flying FUCK about the well-being of the PEOPLE whom they claim to be 'RULING', though. The general population is CHATTLE; they are 'HUMAN RESOURCES'.
BEDS are burning (all over the world):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejorQVy3m8E
Monkey Snott seems to be a False Flag flagellator of the extreme type.
The Paris killers themselves claimed that they received guidance from Al Qaeda. Evidently you did not get the message.
Now you are flagellating yourself further when you find that the police in Paris are out in large numbers trying to locate the associates of the killers.
Putin is scared that the Russian people will toss his corrupt ass out of office. They will take back his fortune just as the Nigerians did to their bastard of a corrupt ruler or the Palestinians did with Arafat's money. Putin knows that his oligarch buddies will let the fish eat him while they just move on to their offshore comfort.
Putin knows better than anyone what Bolsheviks do to ousted rulers.
Putin's popularity level
Obama's popularity level
Bulgaria, Greece, Macedonia, Romania, Croatia and Turkey all reported a halt in gas shipments from Russia through Ukraine.
"I swear, the check's in the mail"
Apparently they don't take euro's.
LNG has been on a tear the last few weeks. Noble energy is a big driller pit that way but has been totally hammered with this energy collapse.
I don't think this is a friendly gesture. I thought this Russia was head of a "Commonwealth"?
Well, there's always rail and barge traffic from Turkey.
Restart that Orient Express.
Finally Putin does something. I think he did this now because after the false flag in France he knew they were going to go after Turkey, remove (and kill) the current leader and install a puppet govt with covert help. The puppet govt would not be friendly to Russia. Now if the EU goes along with what the US/Massod wants to do in Turkey they will have some very unhappy EU members.
Putin needs to stick to his position. If he reverses, even if given assurances, within the next 3 months then he has shown lack of resolve and weakness.
It also happens to be the coldest month of the year. This will be costly for those countries. All of the lines that lose pressure will have to be bled before the gas can be turned back on for the end user.
Here's the unrefutable proof...
Putin will show his weakness when the Polish forces unleash their secret weapon. In a secluded zoo, they have hidden it, it is the bastard son of Wojtek! - Ready to go in Kiev.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojtek_%28bear%29
Bear vs. Bear Trap!
It is a secret alliance between Scottish separatists and Polish sympathizers! -- PROOF http://www.krakowpost.com/article/7932
tttrrerrrizists
When you cut off your nose to spite your face, you shouldn't bitch about the resulting bloody mess.
Russia reads Z/H
nope.
I thought you were Hawaiian. my bad
Yes, you need to think before type xD
Hawaiian, Indonesian; whatever.
It's so hard to tell you people apart.
What's an 'xD'? I've heard of 'WD' (as in, 'WD-40'). I've heard of the 'X-15' (I even built a Revell model of a B-52 with an X-15 slung under the wing). Ford in Australia built a 'Falcon XC', and Volvo (Vulva) built an 'XC-70'. That godforsaken car company called 'Scion' builds a model 'xD'. It's a fucking brick on wheels.
OH! It's some obscure 'internet slang' thingie that TEXTIES use... It replaces the 'smiley face' 'emoticon' that I-pad/I-phone users are too cheap to download (and can't be translated into anything meaningful on real computers). Eyes CLOSED, mouth OPEN. I get it... you don't want to see the cock going down your throat, huh?
I'm SURPRISED that your post wasn't subscripted with 'this post sent by my I-pad'.
I'm wondering... I've seen the script that your avatar uses as some type of fiat currency, but it escapes me at this moment. Is it a 'PHENNIG' or something?
I think it's the Pound Sand.
I hear they are NOT welcome in strip clubs.
Of COURSE they do, Yen.
How many computer screens in Moscow or Langley are tracking every keystroke of every story and every comment in real time RIGHT FUCKING NOW?
It's HAIFA that I'd be worried about, Mr. Cross.
Mr. Yellen is getting tomorrow's FED RES moves from tonight's stories here on ZH. The 'Plunge Protection Team' is gearing up to supress gold and silver right now, again. Bejing's people are laughing their asses off at the comments and looking at the stories with a 4,000 year patience. I think ALL of them are pissed because WB7 isn't posting his art as often as he SHOULD.
Meanwhile, Cannigula the First is scheduling his next golf game, and his handlers have advised him STRONGLY to NOT log on to DRUDGE (or ZH). 'Another bong hit, Barry? It's just like the Choom that you used to get...'.
Russia reads ZH?
Hell, they write half of it.
It was getting pretty bad a few years ago when I realized that I could get more accurate information from RT than from PMSNBCBSABC. Fucking RIA Novosti tells more truth than Cramer and that Bulldyke and the Limey fucker EVER did. What a BITCH, huh? FAUX NEWS: WE decide, YOU comply (or ELSE!). Of COURSE, I believe SEAN HANNITY!
Current 'sidebar' advertisement: 'OLD PALM GOLF CLUB. THE PALM BEACHES, FLORIDA. RESIDENCES FROM 1.3 TO OVER $15 MILLION.' 'SAMSUNG GALAXY S'5; $99.99 (W/TWO-YEAR AGREEMENTS)'. Invest in South Korean-built usury by making agreements to fry your fucking brain for multiples of 2 years. or invest in swampland that hurricanes hit regularly; because some asshole 'investor' from a foreign nation [SAUDI ARABIA, SIC.] built a fucking GOLF COURSE (like the one that Cannigula and Angela Merkel and Christine LeGard and Dick Cheney and Mr Yellen like to PLAY on); and they built a bunch of shit houses without basements, lined with fucking CHINESE DRYWALL (for the LOW, LOW PRICE of only $1.3 MILLION for an 'entry-level' studio fucking APARTMENT overlooking your neighbor's $15-million-plus McMansion that is somewhat closer to the artificial sand dune on the fucking 16'th hole).
YEAH. RT scripts ALL of ZH's material.
YOUR FUCKING ASS!
Honey - you're confusing ZH with RT -a great sight which I highly recommend. Amerikan mainstream media and journalism is nothing but Zionoid Internationalists -serving the zionist/globalist agenda - RT and the Russian press actually gives you far more truth, facts and objective analysis.
You be sure and give me a heads up the first time RT has one cross word to say about Grandmother Putin.
For you to suppose that ANY mass media outlet ANYWHERE is dedicated to anything other than the advancemnt of their own agenda is all I need to know about your perspicacity, lover.
The USSA dominates global mass media. By pushing their relentless propaganda memes, they create feedback loops where the policy makers start to believe their own BS. The Europeans, for example, were convinced that Russia needed to sell their gas more than they needed to buy it. No one in the western MSM explained that russia foregoing 3 months of gas sales to europe has a less drastic effect on their economy, than months of energy rationing and black outs in europe. Lies are never a substitute for reality, despite the american fantasies that they can create their own reality independent of objective existence.
Excellent serious pieces and, as a bonus, occasionally some really funny frivolous stuff comes through RTs RSS feed.
Often funny in part just because it's on RT; from today, for instance:
Now wash your hands: 'Washing Machine Urinator' in Vermont laundry identified
Actually it would be banned.
Energy supplies to be re-started after full pre-payment in Gold Bullion.
No, no, that's OK, everything's fine, DAX and FTSE holding up in overnight markets.
DavidC
(sarc off)
Well played, Vlad, well played.
[ golf clap ]
Somebody get Breedlove... we need to hear from Breedlove. /sarc
"Mein Führer ... ... ... I can valk!"
"Russia plans to shift all its natural gas flows crossing Ukraine to a route via Turkey, a surprise move that the European Union’s energy chief said would hurt its reputation as a supplier."
Constant slandering of Russia in media since the Western/CIA coup in Ukraine, so there you go.
Well I hear the Bulgarian media is even WORSE!
non-sequitur: a statement (as a response) that does not follow logically from or is not clearly related to anything previously said
Perhaps this site should be renamed to non sequitur then.
There's definately a lot of that going around.
Spatial segmentation is the word.
Ignatius:
My reputation is not only sullied, but besmirched, by your comments.
I'm not a WHORE! I'm simply trying to survive by selling my body for profit; and giving others a short period of extatic pleasure. It's not really PROFIT; it's BARTER; you know, and my pussy is well-tended to. Just because I had ONE dissatisfied Cossak, that doesn't mean that my goods are not worth paying for. I'm always open to an infusion of liquid (at the right price).
Sincerely,
The E.U. Energy Department
P.S.
If you take me up on my discounted offer, I will waive the 'Global Warming' taxes for the next six months. ACT FAST, though! it's fucking COLD here!
The major events are up to more than one per day at this point.
You want me to be your villian? Is that how you wanna paint our people and myself?...I'm done playing your villian...I will be your villian
- Putin
In a nutshell. Push back is all these NWO cronies respect.
Can't they just print moar heat?
And it's not just the heat for homes,
but energy & heat for factories and businesses
that needs to be "printed".
Worked for 1922 Weimar.
Someone tell the euro and EU to not look down, and keep running, as Putin just yanked the cliff out from under them.
"The gas will be restored when you let go of the EU and euro, and join us. As a bonus, you can repudiate your debt with the Zionist west.
The banksters need to repay us.
Or, in other words, Putin just made the shit real for Europe. "Check!"
Putin playing chess, Obamalamadingdong playing tiddlywinks.
DavidC
Come on now. Obama is a modern, tech-savvy President.
He's playing Candy Crush.
what a development- this is my shocked face
>:-O
Let them heat with cake.
When energy stops crossing the borders, troops will
Basically VVP has decided to unleash Russia's traditionally two most deadly warriors: Generals January and February.
It's been quite OK with the EU when Kiev cuts off water & energy supplies to Eastern Ukraine,
but "unacceptable" if
"Gazprom plans to deliver the fuel to Turkey’s border with Greece and “it’s up to the EU to decide what to do” with it further, according to Sefcovic."
[What goes around comes back to bite you in the ass]
Melt up in prices ?. This means even more gas available for everyone else where they choose to send it.
henry hub spot futures have nothing to do with russia
It's a futures market, no? Gamblers are betting on future demand for export?
I guess.
I wouldn't jump on the NG bandwagon though; I don't think any upsurge right now will hold.
US gas don't mean shit in the EU
This is going to be the longest, but mot accurate, analysis on this move by Putin that you will read:
LOL!
The banksters need to repay us.
Though I do feel bad for the innocent people that are effected.
Actually I don't feel bad for anyone. West has fucked this up seven ways to heaven and there have been no protests in the street. The puny little peckerhead pols have led to the lambs to slaughter and they have willingly gone along. The power still resides in all of us if we are willing to fight the sleazy motherfuckers. Time is now to put an end to the bullshit. How long did Ukraine think they could steal gas? Nobody rides for free.
I think you're being a little hard on some of these peeps. The Countries supplied THROUGH Ukraine are also going to be affected, and that's going to cause a shitstorm in Europe. They will either talk to Putin, or they will freeze. Putin holds all the cards here. Sure, it's NATO's move, but there is only one choice because there is no other source of gas.
Putin: Check! Your move NATO bitch.
Obama: Fuck.
Obama: "What does the Horsey thing, do again?"
Kerry: "Stop calling me Horsey!"
America should, no must import the Europeans.
Uh, hello - [in my best Sam Kinison imitation] WE'RE ALREADY HERE!
It´s not surprising. Vlad is under massive pressure, so he´s going to use whatever weapon he has. Turning the gas off to the Ukraine, sending Russian military units to Crimea, saying the situation in eastern Ukraine is "deteriorating"...looks like he may soon be going all in. This isn´t a chess game anymore, it´s high stakes poker.
BRAVO for him!
meh, global warming will fix it all, who needs natgas?
Whaaat? How can this be?
"The UK is suffering one of its coldest nights this century with temperatures plunging to as low as -10C."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1106382/Europe-plunged-energy-crisis-Russia-cuts-gas-supply-Ukraine.html#ixzz3OqnIrCN9As usual, the timing shivers.
Recall the cutoff of all EU produce imports — right in the midst of the harvest and shipping season; not only were all the costs of producing and packing already incurred, many hundreds of trucks were already on the road and expended fuel on aborted trips.
Not to go to Germanic but this starting to look like 'Der totale Krieg'.
It is on.
The Russian Bear is starting to bite a little bit harder.
I would love to be a fly on the wall listening to the discussions about this in the EU's capitals. The signal that the Russians are capable of disrupting the EUs economy has to be first and foremost on their minds....and about the potential cost of the sanctions they've imposed on the Russians
Too bad all that hot air from DC, or the fiat paperware from Wall St won't keep them warm.
European Cretincrats.
Gas delivered to the border with Greece? But what if there is a Grexit???
Now the EU will have to keep Greece in the EU!
Thanks for the laugh. Good thinking.
The EU raged that the sudden cut-off to some of its member countries was "completely unacceptable:
Not to mention the completely unacceptable murderous way the Nuland/U.S.-appointed 'Yats' and Pornoschenko bombed and ethnically cleansed Russian Ukranians? EU leaders and your slave country elites? Go freeze your azzes off.
You're being too charitable.
The EU and slave-state "elites" should have their asses cut off, and fed to pigs.
yeah EU you had your chance and YOU CHOSE STUPID! Now lay in that cold bed that you made for yourself! lol
EU, your gas supplies will be cut off until your morale improves. Sincerely, Vlad
It's really unbecoming of the EUcrats to get their panties in a bunch and throw a temper tantrum when they just got finished bragging about how they had such extensive underground storage gas capacity and could last until Hell froze over without Gazprom.
If they were just pulling a Juncker, what is one step beyond "serious"?
Nobody, I mean nobody, could have seen this coming.
LOL
Whew. For a moment there I thought I was alone in my shock.
I think Europe and Russia saw this coming. It's why Putin is playing this card now, and why Europe was so gung ho on Libya. The gambit Putin is playing has a shelf life as Europe tries to deversify it's gas reserves.
#41
Like this? http://www.economist.com/blogs/charlemagne/2014/04/netherlands-lng-terminal
Germany has 8 more.
Like this? http://www.ibtimes.com/feds-approve-fourth-lng-export-terminal-amid-grow...
Texas and Louisiana have 14.
The US has ZERO LNG export capacity right now.
And LNG facilities aren't "shovel ready"...
Libya is a shithole basketcase. There is no real central government, most cities are under the control of various militant and/or tribal factions and the production of oil/gas will drop without major investment.
Egypt has provided much of the labour and expertise and is calling on the Egyptians still there (used to be a couple of million) to get out. Regular extortions, kidnappings and murders of Egyptians (especially Christians) have caused a million Egyptians to leave.
Also foreign workers (including a Texan oil worker) have been targetted/killed over the past year by ISIL affiliated muzzies.
And Europe thinks that Libya can provide regular and reliable gas supplies in enough quantity to offset what Russia currently supplies?
LOL
So I guess the mighty USSA will be loading up ASAP their entire fleet of C130 transports with blankets, cans of sterno, and spam to help out their freezing Euroweenie poodles. In the meantime, if Germany's Muslims haven't already filled it up, there may still be room for some of the more important Euoroweenies deep inside Frau Merckel's cavernous but warm cootch.
Wow, lookie there - Ol' Vlad is driving up the price of oil all by hizself - must want to save those shale oil fields for us........
you nuts!? explain your nonsense...
Calling Joe Biden. Your son has a problem.
"I don't want to be bothered with his bullshit right now, just give him two grams and call me in the morning"
What's all the fuss? Just print more.
wait..
The gas system uses underground gas storage reservoirs in the Ukraine, which are filled in summer and used in winter.
Of course, these reservoirs have no gas left.
lol.....like their Gold vaults
The decision makes no economic sense, Maros Sefcovic, the European Commission’s vice president for energy union, told reporters today after talks with Russian government officials and the head of gas exporter, OAO Gazprom, in Moscow.
Good old short term thinkin........
Well, if that wasn't a power move, I don't know what is........Holy shit!
This is equivalent to a shot across the bow. Wonder who is going to respond.
I've heard a second Obama apology road show is already in the works...
Into the bows.
fify
"How's that for flexibility !"
Hard to create mischief, when preoccupied with staying warm.
coal and firewood are still a cheap source...Right?
You know, incense or perfume might be a good pair trade...
DOH!
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bidens-son-joins-board-of-gas-company-in-ukr...
He was behind the stealing of gas, was he?
I hear that exploding nukes give off lots of thermal energy.
How can this be totally a surprise to Europe? Any half-wit saw this coming many months ago.
apparently not you cant teach stupid
Is this a pre-emptive move by Putin who sensed the next attack on Eastern Ukraine within days?
It is just a little reminder to EU. Mr. Putin says let's all play fools.
Hmmm.
1) The countries that are cut off are all in the southeast quadrant and need the least amount of heat in winter from industrial, population, and weather-related standpoints.
2) So far as I can recall, the EU stocked up in anticipation of a cutoff and thus has plenty of reserves to get through the rest of this winter. Whatever friends Russia had in European capitals are most likely friends no longer.
3) Russia is robbing every cupboard and couch cushion for fx and just abruptly chopped its fx income by a good 20%, plus they abandoned any hope of the US financing Ukraine's 3 B gas bill arrears.
4) No matter how great the tension between West and East during the Cold War, Russia never turned off the gas and kept its reputation as a reliable supplier that did not play political games when hard money was on the table. Poof. People were already exploring alternatives but now those efforts will accelerate. Whatever short term blip in gas prices Russia gets out of this, and it really doesn't get any due to long-term contract pricing, the eventual damage to the Russian export economy is apt to be very large in the long run.
5) I wonder if this leads to German abandonment of their plans to shutter their nukes.
6) Russia clearly hopes that Ukraine will shoulder the blame for this act, and an extensive agitprop campaign is likely to take place in order to reinforce the notion.
7) Not that Russia's side of the argument is meritless. Were they not busy fomenting efforts to abscond with Ukrainian territory, they might indeed be fully in the right. But war is hell and the collateral damage rolls on.
The net result of this move is to show that Russia is running short on options and public support is slowly crumbling. I'm sure the general media-entranced Russian population is thrilled by this bold stand, just as Obama's numbers go up when he acts forcefully. Yet this is a card they have to play in the winter or it is of no use to them at all. It is a Rubicon sort of bid that will not be easy to walk back so it has to work in the short run or it will erode Russia's chances over time.
What other cards are in Russia's hand, short of a shooting war? Don't know. This is pretty much the last punch they can throw. They've done pipeline deals and currency swaps and self-sufficiency campaigns, and still their fx burn rate accelerates. Other than cutting off the other supply streams to the rest of Europe, which would negate their claim that this is a Ukrainian plot rather than a Russian one.
Tune in tomorrow. Same Bat Time. Same Bat Station.
germany has nukes to shutter? humm, news to me. alas! perhaps you mean US forces hidden nukes?
Power plants.
ok. mea culpa.
Namaste. I'm not into reds, by the way. I could have framed it better. Too late now.
China just farted!!
Lots of words and analysis Tarabel, signifying nothing. If the EU didn't need Russian gas, they would not buy it. Now the EU idiots will freeze in solidarity (pun intended) with the imbecilic Ukies. Perhaps they can burn USD's to keep warm.
good analysis of an airheaded blonde analysis
I'd say the Russians with their 2T economy are doing a great job vs the 8000 LB zog machine. The Russians have been thru a lot worse in the past. They're pretty tough crowd and will rebuild again after hardships stemming from the imposed sanctions. They know their history, too. Stalinist Russia -- where 80% of the Commissars were Jewish, 50 Million Christian Russians were slaughtered. Yet, here they are facing that same enemy again. While we in the west have been defeated vs the zog, they appear to be gearing up for a long fight.
Yet here you are, lolling about in the pleasant land of degenerate zogdom while we trample your hero into submission. He could really use your help, if you feel that strongly about it. Volunteers gladly accepted, you know.
I didn't think so.
He's a hero to the Russian people. His popularity rating is at all time high. Western allies that have foolishly followed the Goldman Sachs/central banking cartel’s deadly sovereign debt recipe for growth and prosperity, the time is up. The debts can never be repaid. The taxpayers of this zogdom can no longer bear the burden. This is the only the reason for the zog machine marching eastward.
Let me help you write your counter-analysis of events....
"Checkmate from Grandmaster Putin."
Am I close?
Better to burn rubles, don'tcha think? Same BTUs at a much lower cost basis.
Me, I'm just a lonely voice of equal time here in the Land of You Go, Girl. I look at the geopolitical aspects of the situation and this is what I see. Simple armchair G-2 stuff. Looking at it from the other side, I'm not sure what other move Putin could make. Not saying that this is good and right or bad and wrong. Elements of both wrapped up in the situation.
But you would be hard pressed to suggest what their next move might be. What card remains playable? A full dress invasion of the Ukraine? Cutting the rest of the gas flow off from Europe? You tell me. The cupboard's looking pretty bare in terms of marshalling effective responses to the pressure they are under. Justice not an issue so far as analysis is concerned, pressure is.
As I've mentioned before, Putin with a 2 T economy is wrestling with the US/EU with a 32 T economy. The chances of success are not high at all and this does not enhance them in any way. Lots of burning bridges here and he made some new enemies with this move and picked up no additional friends. Apart from you guys, of course, but you were already his friends so it's not a big help.
Putin better dig deep for $280 billion in debt that needs to be rolled over in the next 8 weeks.
They buy it because it is cheap and easy. Like Putin's mother.
Yet you never really address the issue of Ukraine siphoning gas out of their pipeline that wasn't sold to them and that they didn't pay for. It is Russia's gas, after all.
You don't approve of Ukraine stealing gas, do you?
Or do you think its okay for Ukraine to blackmail Russia because of the energy needs of the six southern European countries?
7) Not that Russia's side of the argument is meritless. Were they not busy fomenting efforts to abscond with Ukrainian territory, they might indeed be fully in the right. But war is hell and the collateral damage rolls on.
So let me offer a counter-question to you:
You don't approve of freezing innocent people who have nothing to do with the dispute between Russia and Ukraine, do you?
Of course you do.
I would have more sympathy for Russia if they had simply announced that European shipments needed to be paid for on the basis of gas quantities delivered to the Russia/Ukraine border and then let Europe and Ukraine fight over who got what.
Simple and practical- but not what Putin wants. He needs to play this card for domestic political purposes.
This is war, mon ami, not a game of chess. Both sides are playing to win with the assets they have in their hands.
But as you yourself pointed out
But there never had been a nazi coup d'etat in Kiev before. Never before had a Deputy Secretary of State of the United States doled out $5 billion to svoboda and pravy sektor to foment a revolution.
NEVER BEFORE HAD A SITTING DIRECTOR OF THE CIA APPEARED IN A REVOLUTIONARY MOB OF A FOREIGN COUNTRY TO GUARANTEE THE PROMISES VICTORIA NULAND MADE AND OFFER THE FULL FAITH AND CREDIT OF THE US OF A TO THE UKRAINIAN NAZIS UPON THE SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE COUP, THE FLIGHT OF YANUKOVYCH AND THE INSTALLATION OF AMERICA'S CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE, PORKY PIG.
Don't you think, tara?
The Jews are out to get him. Or is it the Nazis? Or is it the NWO banksters? Jewish-Bolshevik irredentists? Outraged transgendered motorists? Regardless, enemies are all around and he needs to strike back.
What I think is that Putin is out of non-belligerent options and it goes downhill from here.
You guys have been egging him on and recommending this exact move. Now you got what you want and we'll see how well it works out for Super Pute. My guess is that it is a bad move that he took only with the greatest reluctance because it closes off many future paths and leaves him with fewer avenues of advancement. Sometimes you take the move that is left rather than the move that you would want. Any chess player can see that.
You got some advice for your hero, then pipe on up, sailor.
After a couple of centuries of invasion and death
From Europe
Maybe Russia realizes it is Asian?
Edit:
Excuse Me
I don't believe my eyes!
Did you just try to finesse my argument that the US paid for the coup in the Maidan, in Kiev, in Ukraine with your retarded change of subject that I'm surprised you were not too embarrassed to type (unless you were fortified with some vintage Schlitz).
Where in the vacuum between your ears did you find "the jews are out to get him"? What did I say that could have possibly prompted that whingey, yiddish, self-defensive totally irrelevant response?
Now there is only a return to scatological replies to your imbecilic comments as you become completely incapable of an intelligent discourse as soon as you start to lose the argument.
What the fuck does that mean? Does it have anything to do with the fact that Ukraine is stealing Russia's gas?
I see now you're just an idiot -- probably a zionist one to boot.
DO NOT REPLY TO THIS DO NOT REPLY TO THIS ETC ETC
If US use the petrodollar to blackmail and impose her will in other countries - why cannot Russia does the same with her gas? EU can live w/o petrodollar and at the same time EU cannot live w/o gas.
So, Pukin will ship through Turkey ... what could possibly go wrong.
The decision makes no economic sense, Maros Sefcovic, the European Commission’s vice president for energy union, told reporters today after talks with Russian government officials and the head of gas exporter, OAO Gazprom, in Moscow.
Funny how EU bureaucrats know what makes economic "sense" but Russian energy and finance ministers don't, really strange.
EU idiots didnt see how it didnt make sense to push Sanctions on Russia, so Fuck em! too late now EU crybabies
I absolutely love how the Russian's worded all this and the timing.
Unfort shit is getting out of hand though and I can gaurantee the US will forge ahead with Operation Global Gobble.
Canada used to refer to the USA as the "You-Ass-A" You ass ah! you ass ah!
it is stunning to watch the EU suddenly turn into crybabies over this! "Snot fair! im telling mom!"
You ass, eh?
Are we talking Circumcision or OFF! Like with their head.
In 1 month, anyone in Greece that squips out an elevator fart will be beaten to death for wasting valuable resources.
Never mind just the heating of homes, easy enough to get around, industry will take a beating with less heating or the actual use of gas for electrical output will shut much of it down, jobs will be shed and the local economies will sink lower.
no such thing is being reported anywhere
instead just this "news" on a plan that Russia is currently considering
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-01-14/russia-to-shift-ukraine-gas-tra...
nobody is cutting gas off to anybody
Did you check the Daily Mail link?
Check the time as compared to bloomberg too.
the Daily Mail link is on google and it's old by the looks of it
no way this bombshell would be buried away on page 35
none of the online papers in Europe are reporting this
Don't twittle the Putin lovers nipples.
LOL, turn off the gas if they don't pay in Rubles. Anyone siupporting the sanctions should be shut off immediately.
You need to fix the headline and the story. Yes Russia wants to move gas through Turkey instead of Ukraine.
No, they did not cut off the pipeline to Ukraine and Europe through Ukraine, get the facts straight Tyler!
Start the series of flights of groups of airplane carrying LNG.
Obama is JFK reincarnated....
/SARC