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"Putin Destroyed The New World Order", According To Estonia's President Ilves
On the heels of Russia's decision, as we reported here, to "increase [their] combat units in accordance with the new military doctrine," particularly focused on Crimea, NATO responded with threats/promises of more military drills and patrols. Having used their airspace but condescended their perspective as "hysterical," Estonian President Toomas Hendrik Ilves is calling for much stronger NATO presence as he rages that "the world order found after the Cold War has been destroyed," by Putin.
As Die Welt reports (excerpted via Google Translate),
Q: Some EU and NATO members said Estonia was being hystereical [ in its response to Russian provocations]
Ilves: That's typical for people who do not want to look, what actually happened. The world order found after the Cold War has been destroyed. The UN Charter, the Helsinki Final Act were broken, the Paris Charter of 1990 - which says that each country can make his own decisions when it comes to its national security. Moscow has signed himself. That the Georgians towards NATO wanted 2008 was enough reason for a war on Russia. This time is the reason something as small as an Association Agreement with the EU.
Q. Do Estonians have reason to fear?
Ilves: We - in the EU and NATO - have no reason to fear. We are living in a situation such as in West Germany before 1989, the risk is there, one observes bad behavior.
Ilves: I'm really surprised that opinion writers and others in the French and German media blame the EU Association Agreement [for the tension between Russia and Ukraine]. This is little more than a free trade agreement and a student exchange. This is not a big deal. But the Putin [apologists] criticize the EU that it was a mistake.
I'll tell you something: May 8, 1945, the definitive answer to annex other territories because of the minority living there. Germany must understand Russia - this is a thought of blood and soil for us.
Q: Do you feel like an outsider in the Western Alliance?
Ilves: No, but we feel vindicated. For 20 years, us Eastern Europeans have been told to calm down, that Russia is a normal country. And now they see that we were right. A few days ago, we have seen first strategic bomber of the Russian Air Force over the Baltic Sea. And people say we are paranoid. Countries, who say this should rather pay attention to their high deficit and excessive wage costs.
Ilves: Russia has miscalculated the consequences of his actions are much larger than expected, they thought that passes everything quickly, as then in Georgia.
Q: Do you see a change of mindset in Germany?
Ilves: Germany always found an excuse not to do something: the Second World War, the Gestapo, the Stasi.
Ilves: [NATO partners better change] Because it's embarrassing for them. Because there is not an intellectually convincing answer. But we are not dull small East subhuman. This condescending attitude towards Estonians is repulsive.
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He's just getting started....wait til the Chinese get finished with them....."death by a thousand cuts" isn't Putin's invention..btw go cry to Nuland
And he did so by buying gold and silver...and hating bitcoin.
It’s amusing to watch third world leaders of small countries and smaller worldviews when they go off their meds.
"Leave the New World Order alone!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoEowc
Thank God for George Soros, Bill Gates and Barack Obama
I wouldn't blame Putin for this since NATO seems to have gone Wile E. Coyote and have started using the Acme regional strategic planning kit.......
+1 for the Acme reference. Kids nowadays don't know anything about that.
ACME was the first multinational cartoon corporation based in China. They made everthing, but nothing that Wile E. Coyote used from them ever worked well against the RoadRunner. So it must have been cheap Chinese junk. Otherwise our friendly lovable little avarian protagonist would have been snuffed by the third episode.
Funny crowd tonight. Beep beep!
Hooray???
Reminds me a bit of the old Peter Sellers film, "The Mouse That Roared"... Didn't work out for them either...
Rather; Meep Meep
ACME - A Name You Can Trust (tm)
Putin to NATO: "Meep Meep Bitchez"
If you look closely at the Acme box, "made in Russia" is printed at the bottom.
And for those that didn't know...........the Acme box that Wile used was mfg. by Roadrunner productions.
Estonia: the land of smoookin hot chicks and brutally stupid politicians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG3whNsg4MI
Estonia is no 3 world country.
It is genius . Many e.european nations are 3rd world countries .
The world order found after the Cold War - it is USSR and half of the world under the control of the Soviet Union - as the Warsaw Pact countries.
This is not Russia, is the United States to destroy the old world order, when they began to expand NATO eastward to the borders with Russia and when they began war occupied countries in all the world.
Estonia: Fuck you. Now come fight the war we just picked with Russia for us becuase our country is the size of a postage stamp.
Because somewhere over there in Russia the government is sleeplessly making plans for the invasion of the strategically important glorious nation of Estonia.
/sarc
Ilves is a pathological russophobe and textbook example of a puppet who only serves to translate in Estonian what his masters from DC have told him and keep Esonians in constant fear of "Russian invasion", he has a lot of practice in that because he worked at Pentagons propaganda Radio Free Europe in the 80s. Born in Sweden and grew up in USA he never lived in Estonia untill he was placed there in mid 90s, even his wife Evelin Ilves cheats on him with some french dude Vincent Aranega.
He hates Russia more than his mother hates him.
Esto-la-vistonia!
president ilves is US and trilateral commission stooge, who grew up and was educated in USA during the soviet occupation. he has shown nothing but disdain towards estonian people.
Does they gets Victoria Nuland?
whomNotice none of these Politicians whom bad mouth President Putin and Russia do their own people right...
they serve other master, but not their populance interests...
SouthStream is one stark example of this...
All west waste their taxpayers money to make troubles to Russia
When I read all these words, it seems to me that there is talk about Ms. Merkel.
Bingo! He does not speak for Estonia. He speaks for his masters. He is from the USA, and being Estonian extraction, he was most certainly a CIA asset, and still is. Thus he simply went out to perform for his masters who are liars and war mongers. Sadly, the Estonian people are good people, they don't need or want war. But they let Americans rule them, and they will find war, just like Ukraine. Pushed into war by Zionists in Washington.
How much longer do people of the world allow a few zionists in Washington DC to destory nations and destroy the peace. No coup in Kiev, no war. No war, no problems for Estonia. Fucking CIA stooge should shut up!
Good for Putin ! If he manages to pull this out, then he's a hero.
Ahem, don't forget that Putin is also an asshole too.
You know nothing about President Putin
media dumb you down much?
KGB/FSB Colonels are not good people by definition. They are right up there with CIA honchos, and every other vicious security/intel service.
Because while the US and our CIA has troops in hundreds of Nations and overthrows Countries on a whim and lies, Russia has just how many client States? Your comment is bullshit. Russia is holding it's ground and doing business, the JewSA is on a mission to own the world.
Oh, he knows what you said is true. He is spouting the Zionist bullshit line. Americans are barinwashed to believe Zionism is Americanism. They believe Israel and Zionists in Washington DC are true American patriots. Or else he loves the empire and want to have the army in every nation on earth so Zionism rules everybody.
I will never accept the Zionist rule, we are under their rule here in the USA, but I wll not accept it. America does not belong to Zionists, they own it, but it is not theirs. Zionist Americans are traitors, someday the traitors will be kicked out, when I don't know.
So you would argue this is not true then? Because that is exactly what he said. One way or another, you get ruled by people that you detest.
Endlessly repeating a narrative, as the starting point pretext to commentary does not make for a discussion. People who have been at zero hedge for more than a year generally grasp the narrative, so why keep repeating it every time something perceived as non-complying to the meme drifts into your transom?
It's like repeating a single word to yourself a thousand times, after a few minutes you end up wondering what the word even means. What a strange sound it makes, why has its definition escaped you. Then you realize the word's repetition is revealing the truth of the word, and a pretty silly 'thing' it is.
Some people in zh realize all of the words and narratives are more-or-less meaningless and silly, certainly not worth constantly repeating, just to try and use them as anchors for the mind, avoiding topics and shunning non-conforming realities that are not going away.
Why do it? Can't maintain stability and continuity of thought without the constant wrote justification of the starting point(s), perhaps?
You could try unanchoring yourself from the narrative, your mind won't implode if you un-peg and float it, you just get appreciation or depreciation, relative to those still pegged.
If you believe that the FSB and the CIA - is bad people, then you should immediately demand that the US government, eliminate the CIA.
For what the United States needs structure CIA, where employing only bad people?
You have to start collecting signatures to this requirement, right now.
Or are you a hypocrite and an enemy of justice?
What business of mine is it? I'm not even American. My own country isn't going to be taking my advice on state security, they also won't be giving me a job offer any time soon. But then again, you're a known partisan pro-putin nutjob playing deflection games to avoid the impaling fact that the original poster was exactly right.
No one may be right, if it uses only the words, but not the facts. Therefore, your colleague, who says about Putin has been only swaying air.
and CIA president Bush Sr. was a good for US, along with his offspring GW junior?
they are paranoid. Georgians attacked Russian peacemakers and Russia is at fault... This guys are running western countries and NATO... totally insane
Regarding paranoid,
that's what happens when this clown gets his news from American state sponsored propaganda networks and their "big bad Russia is the aggressor, invading peaceful democracies and eating children" 24/7 meme.
They know what is really happaned but they are afraid to lose power and money so they must go with this bs about bad Russia and good democratic airstrikes
Whiny little bitches aren't they ?
Spineless.Looks like they may last 10 seconds when the chips are down.
No wonder their history is full of being occupied by someone else.
history of estonia is like that.
Russian Empire paid about 200bn euro for our time for baltic states.
sad thing that western people don't know history
They overpaid.
Except if you measure by the Estonian women hotness scale.
You need just read history to understand the situation
peacemakers? you guys are pretty good at the newspeak. LOL
Russian peacekeepers were in Abkhazia by agreement with the UN
I can type wrong words, my english is bad...
your english is fine. it's just the language you use.
anything regarding peace in the military lingo is pure propaganda and oxymoron.
but un troops called like this...It's not like we just put our troops their and Georgia was shelling them for free with NATO weapons, and they bought illegal weapons from ukraine too.
their ex president Saakashvili will go to jail if he will come back, they ( Georgia) told it and ask interpol
exactly
good post
Agreed, Kowalli is one of the 'good guys'. We need more from his perspective.
You mean the propaganda in the style of weapons of mass destruction, what US Army was looking in Iraq?
Or like propaganda about of the people "Kosovars" that does not exist, because in Kosovo do not live "Kosovars" and ordinary Albanians?
Just showed your ignorance of facts of the Georgian conflict.
Drug addict nutcase Saakashvilli ordered sneak attack during full agreed truce.Russian Peacekeepers were murdered and civilians
strafed and shelled. Georgia kicked him now and I think there are charges against him.
Billions taxpayer arms advisors and trainings went in there. Word is west lost some kia.
There was one confirmed, two reported Balt female snipers kia and some Ukrainian hirelings kia.
Germany belongs to America , lock ,stock and barrel, they will do whatever America tell's them.
For now ...
ad infinatium methinks.
A people which started 2 world wars CANNOT belong to anybody, by definition. By the way, did I mention that presently they own the EU ? Just wait and see...
Austria? Poland? Austria started WWI and Poland, by insisting on the continuing oppression its ethnc German residents and refusing to negotiate over the issue started WWII. U.S version of history is a lie to keep Germany as a occupied province with a constitution written and imposed by American zionists.
Nothing lasts forever.
For now ... what has been going on for 70 years?
Guy sounds like the typical "Putin is the boogeyman" idiot. Stunned here.
Hey idiotic Estonian President - answer these questions:
Who spent $5 billion for a right-wing putsch to oust the legitimate government of Ukraine?
Who has bombed 7 Muslim countries in the last 6 years?
Who was responsible for the false-flag events of 9/11? Who was responsible for Gladio?
Who has killed more than 3.3 million in Iraq alone?
US Sponsored Genocide Against Iraq 1990-2012. Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Children Statement by Professor Francis Boyle, Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunalhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-genocide-against-iraq-1990-201...
Dickchenistan?
USNEOCOM?
Us?
I recently tried to make these points to an american and he told me I was a crazy ungrateful (for some reason) asshole and America is the policeman of the world bringing freedom to those countries - at much self sacrifice for others and with no ill intent or geopolitical motives, he added.
I have no hope left for the western world.
Dude... I was told the same shit by a Progressive CA goober-mental employee golf bud of mine.
He worships the ground O'pajamas walks on and can't wait for Hillary as she'll not be misunderstood.
When I told him O'PJman was doing the exact same shit as Bush he looked at me like I was crazy.
Whazzup!
By now, you should know that I'm no fan of religion but here's a heads up you prolly don't need.
People are willfully ignorant! They don't want to know.
This SNB shit will cause a lot of so-called "wealth" to evaporate. Then, a whole lot more people will wonder, WTF just happened?
Eventually, the world will go back to normal, but not before the FX traders and the other vermin like them are wiped out. Just my opinion.
There will be worldwide bank run, in between, which the banks can't withstand, but he people still won't respond.
They will only wonder why their bellies hurt, and blame each other.
Fuck me!
He watchs FOX. They peddle that Zionist bullshit. I know FOX viewers who want more invasions so we can spread freedom. Deluded barinwashed dupes. They love it though. CNN covers another American invasion!
The policeman of the world can only be the one case when all the world chooses this policeman. If someone appoints himself the chief policeman of the world, it is a bandit.
Okay, maybe I've been wrong about this Putin guy. I did not think he'd cut off (or back down at least) gas to Europe, or seriously fuck with the petrodollar. The jury is still out, and I'm still not sure his currency moves will have a serious effect on the dollar, but this is one of those times I'll be glad if I was wrong.
It's all part of the waking-up process. Five years ago I was a staunch supporter of Israhell against "da turrorizt muzzies". Now my views are the complete opposite (because I have learned since then).
I understand your point, but I took the blue pill a while ago. My issue is more with whether Putin is part of the NWO, or truly outside it. He's been conveniently set up as the challenger, which makes me suspicious. And there's the fact that he's quite wealthy, and not from selling widgets. I'm still not sure.
Whatever he is, he's still an Oligarch and whatever he's up to it's only to help himself, being and Oligarch and all, that's how reptiles roll.
You can't tell if Putin is own something or can you name this assets?
Yes his asset is Russia and everything in it's ground, in the water and walking around on its soil. He's calling all the shots as Oligarchs do, to think otherwise is a fools errand. Is he trying to break the nSSA global NWO petrodollar hegemony and all the killing bullshit that goes with it, maybe. Is that a good thing? YES. but in the end he's an Oligarch just like any other, don't be fooled.
Putin - the oligarch is unsubstantiated propaganda. As a weapon of mass destruction in Iraq and the use of chemical weapons Assad in Syria. Only lies, provocations and propaganda.
VV Putin has never been about money
In a sense I can agree and want to believe in the "St. Putin" mythology. He is very aware of the realpolitik and what I see is a man that is a political savant. I am also a natural fan of the "underdog" in any contest.
As much as I admire all of the above, I have a massive libertarian streak that makes me distrust all people that seek power.
We will see how it works out but my gut says that in 20 years the U.S. will have broken apart while Russia grows in strength.
He is not saint and he have money, but not like he own everything like western press tell to us
Hence my allusion to his awareness of "realpolitik".
He knows that without real wealth there are a certain class of oligarch that would simply dismiss his position.
It is thinking this way that makes me take a step back a question my sanity. "Brilliant and privileged boy rises up to amass billions and save a country" would be far fetched as a screenplay let alone reality.
not everything is measured in money in Russia
now that's bullshit! why the rush to capture all the markets by a few elites then after peristoika? If it wsn't for the money< complete bullshit
Tell me the name of any one Western politician who is holy, not involved in corruption and has no money.
Why'd you take the blue pill, Rand? Did you mis-understand?
Starting to look like your blue pill was spiked with a bit of red pill.
Until we know who owns and controls Russia's central bank, or we see that bad Vlad has taken steps to neutralize it, your suspicions are well founded. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnCP7s-HqG0
Gotta say though, that Vlad and his advisors certainly appear as honest actors when compared their western counterparts.
Still, all the world's a stage, huh?
Yeh, it's long, and William Snakeshit said it first.
I don't think we should casually dismiss Edgar Cayce, either-
+1 Upvoted simply because of the Rush reference.
Thank you Mr. Minister. May I politely say you have a bit of a slog before ya' comprehend the inner workings of Neil Peart's mind from almost 40 years ago?
What will it take to get you current?
The mind boggles.
Go back awhile (not even a generation) and you'll find this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBecM3CQVD8
Yeah, it was us that did this.
Check that, it was you and your fervent congregation who did this, Mr, Minister.
Sleep well.
On the subject of pre-red pill, I supported Americas imperialism blindly up until after the invasion of Iraq. I'm still mad as fuck about being that stupid and letting the propaganda take me in during the earlier years. Glad I educated myself with some real facts, regardless of the burdens those realities bring with them.
+a bunch. I am right there with you. (From a former cold warrior.)
Same here (and to Blind Monkey too).
Oops.
>>>I'm still mad as fuck about being that stupid and letting the propaganda take me in during the earlier years.
A lot of "freedom oriented" individuals share in your history, or at least I do. Throughout the Cold War years there was good enough reason for the average "western" citizen to fear what the World Wide Commies were up to.
The scales fell from my own eyes when the Warsaw Pact disbanded... and the USA started bombing Serbia.
Amen brother Tungsten Bars. I was also fooled by 9/11 and the Iraq war. At least you had the courage to take your head out of your ass and see the world as it really is. I love America but hate the fucking bastards that are in control of it.
never was fooled for a second, called bullshit the minute GW called for woar on Iraq! Stood very very alone at the time, now I get to bust all my buddys balls for being fools! they're very sheepish now knowing what a bunch of duped blow hards they were at the time. Unfortunately they all still refuse to look at the entire picture and what these NWO fuckers are really trying to do!! Don't stop educating your friends no matter how hard they drool stoopid juice!
Wait until you get to the point where you can say you don't care either way as long as they keep it over there and we keep ourselves over here.
Israel will do what Israel will do. That is their problem.
Muzzies will do what muzzies will do. That is their problem.
We will do what we will do. Depending on what we do it may be our problem or everyone's problem.
My point is we only need to worry about us as we are the dangerous ones.
Go read ALL his speeches.I wasn't sure until I did.He's the real deal.
He pretended to go along with the NWO for a while, while Russia recuperated.
Putin's public persona and propaganda he spits doesn't interest me in the slightest. Much like anyone from the West. They are sound bites to create a narrative for their audience. This is how the elite operate. What I'm interested in is what they do behind closed doors. ie who he shares blow and strippers with and what they say among themselves away from any media eyes and ears. This is the most intriguing. I sure hope he is the real deal but based on the last 100 years of history I wouldn't hold my breath! They seem to always be able to control both sides of the debate and keep us disorientated but ever hopeful, much like most commenting here including myself.
You may be right/
I may be crazy/
Hey! but I just may be/
The lunatic you're looking for/
Turn out the lights/
Don't try to save me/
You may be wrong, for all I know/
But you may be right.
Hitler's speeches had the same sort of effect, everyone was clear that he was the real-deal, a patriot, an ultra-nationalist, a savior for the ages, inspiring, millennial Reich in train. And JFK, geez, that guy could blab! He was great, a real visionary, he almost destroyed all of human civilization and got maybe ~10 million people butchered in Indochina via his aggression - and for nothing at all. Making omelets breaks a few eggs, it's all good, his speeches made up for it. But you're right, the Rooskies have always been super competitive in the ultra-nationalist pokie-outie chest speeches department, and the fatality rates have been simply astonishing over the past century. 9.7/10
Fuck the corrupt new world order.
when some bureaucrat in a distant city proposes having me arrested for burning wood in my stove, or having too many rounds of ammo in my magazine, or for drinking a soda with sugar in it, its time to start measuring rope and looking for lamposts.
Do you feel the same way about a distant city proposing that someone move because their land has been annexed?
You mean the folks in Judea?
Or are you suggesting the Khazarians, who converted 1000 years ago have less claim to the land than an invented people from Jordan and Cyprus?
A noose is waiting for all socialists, no matter their ethnicity.
When you have to go back 1000 years to justify yourself, you've made your point. Take what you want, and stop bullshitting about why, or stop taking it.
I am a huge Putin fan!
Way better than U2 or bono.
I'm right into Caligula at the moment, bit old-school, but totally groovy, way better than these feather dusters.
If Putin offered a basic monthly income to any college educated American who wished to defect, I wonder how many takers he'd get.
Yeah because that would be so much not like welfare here.
Tax free productive land, an AK or ten, and unlimited ammo... How do you say yeehaa in Ruskie?
Actually, let that idea be, it has some real merit ... for the West. lol
Most funny thing that this madmen still can't present to us any real proof that Russia has any fault in all this.
Proof?
Putin offered them a 15 billion Euro loan and a below market rate on gas before this whole shitstorm blew up.
If that doesn't prove his evil intent, then nothing will.
They can always twisted it like Putin just bought off Yanukovych=)
Basically an NWO rag, but I thought this was funny:
“The ‘orange beast’ is sharpening its teeth and looking to Russia,” said The Surgeon, whose real name is Alexander Zaldostanov. He suggested an alternate name for the anti-Maidan group could be “Death to faggots”, without explaining why.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/15/group-anti-maidan-defend-ru...
This is our patriotic movement, we must change ourselves to defend our country from any kind of prepaid bunch of guys, which west can discribe as "pro-democracy" or "anti-corruption" or any new bs from department of truth
People are a country, if people don't care - country will fall apart
Yes, it is hard for me to understand much of the current movements in Russia without being there, and certainly a newspaper like the guardian does not offer much help.
What I do know is that EUNATO techniques have basically come down to 'I know you are but what am I?' A lot of problems in America/EU are being turned around as accusations against Russia: NSA spying becomes Russian Trolls feeding lies in American social media; false flag attacks become Russia using little green men to invade foreign countries (without ever doing so); EUNATO expansion with nuclear weapons is turned around as Russian aggression/expansionism, etc. Many of the books coming out of Russia denouncing Putin try to make the claim that the writers are in fear of their lives and fighting a new Stalin, make Russia appear as the world's dystopia to remove the light from its own stage.
Whatever the problems in Russia are they are unlikely to be close to what American intelligence claims, and the problems certainly will not be solved by them. Russians are right to be aware of the amount of infiltration in their country, and to be suspicious of pro-democracy and pro-western movements, there is almost certainly money being exchanged before the demonstrations. We will see a lot more of these nationalist and patriotic movements to counter the fake and paid ones.
You forgot that a commodity-cycle boom and bust became a western conspiracy against, firstly the Saudis (but they don't cut production for rational reasons), so secondly, US and Western hydrocarbon production in general is re-configured and repackaged as a devious trade attack on Russia!
lol ... you fucking idiots.
Businesses extract oil, hand-over-fist every time there's a commodities boom, to make money and expand their (hopefully resulting stable) businesses and income. But they did it during a 4-year long global macro slump.
That is what is on-going.
Predictably prices crashed. Well, duh, that's what commodity booms do!
OPEC was the result of a few things, Washington-backed Israeli wars against Arab States, and the need for stable plus higher prices for oil to prevent and buffer booms and busts. So what did OPEC do about it? Get this, they decided not to over produce, as it was too damaging, the price declines were severely impacting producers, businesses and national revenues.
Yet the failure to cap production in any of these new producers, who are not in OPEC, is seen to be a Western conspiracy against the Saudis, and then against Russia!
My Ass it is!
The US Govt had been asking the Saudis to increase production for most of the past decade ... AND THEY POINT BLANK REFUSED.
Allies huh?
So the US then had an ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, caused by the higher price, to look seriously at alternatives, substitution, and to its own oil development option for their own economic hydrocarbon reserves.
There was also massive promotion of the notion of peak-oil and predictions of massive shortfalls from about 2015. Well guess what, Western Govts have covered for that possibility! Surprise-surprise!
So ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY combined with poor foresight of the implications of too much production produced this situation. Thus broke producers will be bought up by those who sensibly knew what was coming (boom then a massive bust), played the long-game.
Now look at the context:
If the US understands its banks are totally fucked, deficits are in fact uncontrollable, catered for only via overt or else hidden printing, and the dollar is thus being destroyed, and that they can't use mark to market and survive, and that the FED is on its last legs, then why the hell would the US not go for broke to produce energy and many other resources to backstop their currency's collapse, and to earn some foreign reserves from there?
Is that not exactly what Russia did after it collapsed?
And it was especially in US interests to do that, since China and Russia and many others have all been saying for about four years that their intent is to kill or else do away with the petrodollar printer (so ... like ... attacking the US then? ... well ... er ... yup!).
But no ... dah massive US oil production must be an insidious NWO attack on Russia, to take over dah whole werld!!!!
MMMUUUUHAHAHAHARARRARARARAARAAAAARRRRRHHH!!!
i.e. people asserting, due to mere speculation for convenient dumbass propaganda narative purposes, that the US is attacking Russia with oil over-production, are dopey ignorant useless damaged F U C K H E A D S.
carry on
I love it when you do that mad laughter and trash some preconceptions
stop being a retard .
Simon and ZHers, This is just his "low-hanging Mantra", if you're a Baltic politician. Every politician has his/her local version.
He clearly knows his audience and is simply streaming the right tune (for the Local Yokels and NATO Zitheads).
Simon and ZHers, This is just his "low-hanging Mantra", if you're a Baltic politician. Every politician has his/her local version.
He clearly knows his audience and is simply streaming the right tune (for the Local Yokels and NATO Zitheads).
Long live Putin.
Movin movin movin
Keep dem banksters jumpin
Putin.
Head em up. Head em out.
all people are small, not just you, all of us.
small, small, small; waiting to be overrun by
the big ones, whoever they are and however they
come and are represented. likely with gear
North Atlantic Terrorist Organisation
Shhhhhh...
The empire is still in the dark as it hasn't pulled its head out of its ass.
Well then, they probably shouldn't have fucked with him eh?
Better watch yourself there Ilves.. should you or your country find itself valuable to the west, strategic or otherwise, keep in mind putin isn't interested in spineless bitchess
What the fuck, go ahead and ignore the facts and invite the rapists and pillagers for dinner. I'm sure the pallet of $100 bills will follow...
All are welcome.. all are welcome, come into the NWO light..
Well then, if true, fucking awesome.
A truely interesting time of great opportunity!!!!
Be happy!
Maybe this guy should read this by Dmitri Orlov the other day: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40690.htm
Peculiarities of Russian National Character
You and your people don't matter more than anyone else, fuckface. Fight your own battles.
Great thing if Putin is destroying the NWO.
Means that the current order must then still rely on the popular support of the little people to exist, thereby empowering us to still have a chance to influence our own future. NWO can't fight a cultural and geopolitical two-front war effectively.
The question is not if Russia and China are upsetting the "New World Order". It's whether that's a bad thing.
The leadership of Russia and China are as bad as our leaders here are. But if three bad regimes are battling it out, each of them is relatively limited in their scope, allowing average people more leeway to find a way to get through the cracks.
TPTB of the US and the EU are overreaching. They want the world to run according to their system, just one system, with a token amount of room for local expression. This is a classic power play, just on a global scale. It looks like they may have jumped too soon.
Ukraine is too close and too personal for Russia.
At this point anything that leads to de-centralization is a positive. You don't have to like Russia or China to celebrate that their actions are preventing the further consolidation of global power into the hands of an aggressive group from the west who will not be satisfied until their control is unchallenged.
Spot on Sofa
Great comments. People in the US tend to think their leaders actions are always correct though. Once you finally grasp that the assholes running the US, EU, Russia, China, etc. are all pretty much the same then you can root for Russia or whoever to shake up that new order so one group of assholes isn't running the whole show. That would be disasterous for all except the elitist scum running the show.
"You don't have to like Russia or China to celebrate that their actions are preventing the further consolidation of global power into the hands of an aggressive group from the west who will not be satisfied until their control is unchallenged."
+1
"wait til the Chinese get finished with them"
The Russian bear defeated emboldened leaders.
Russia is tough. These soft New World Order people have no idea about the mess they have entered into.
dull delusional small round headed east subhuman
I'd be more worried about the broke assed Muslim Socialist EU taxing the shit out of me to pay for their diversity invasion than Russia and their 15% income tax. Somebody has to eat all the solar shit losses too......and the US sub-prime.
The EU is already raiding bank accounts and eyeing insurance assets and stated it publicly, more appropriations are coming, then there's the unpaid fuel bills....and their creditors.
The EU is full of ex-Communists that left the USSR too loot the West and are suddenly apoplectic at the prospect of Capitalist Russia.
How'd that French solidarity march work out? Problem solved?
How's the austerity going? MsHollande?
Russia has been quite clear that it views the Wests hostilities towards it following the removal of the democratic Government in the Ukraine and the subsequent US appointed Government as a dangerous move towards war....so why the surprise?
do as i say, not as i do
The guy does sound a bit hysterical, I always thought Estonians were a bit more calm, cool, and collected than that. The president is acting like the USSR is coming to get him. I don't think Russia needs the harder to freeze Baltic sea ports like they did back in WWII.
He lived most of his life in the West.
"we are not dull small east subhuman".......................... UNTERMENSCH
LONG LIVE THE TEUTONIC KNIGHTS !!!
historically germany showed great love for the baltics.
Toomas must have hung out in fergusen too long. germany never wanted to break up the prussian empire. it was george soros and those viking pirate limeys, the limeys want make encryption illegal.... so only england and her socialist patsy countries can spy
I'm in to help Mr. Putin to destroy the NWO.
Here is the truth about Estonia.
Since Estonia was annexed from the USSR in 1991, 25% of the population, mostly young and educated people, has left it and immigrated to Europe and Russia. Salaries are low, factories are destroyed.
Eventually, a wave of Muslims will replace the Estonian population.
This is because the fomer paid for "free" land and commons created during communism, were pledged on a banker's double entry ledger. This private banker ledger then emitted Euro credit. The credit then cycled into the Estonian supply, and then back out to buy luxury goods or things they wanted to consume outside of their economy.
The debt instrument grew with usury, but the Euro credit was gone. Therefore, there were no Euro's to pay the debts. Also, debt instruments were generational. If you cannot pay, then your children will.
The banking system is inherently predatory, and trusting Estonians got sucker punched.
So, now they have their population emigrating because they cannot make a living. The people are being dispossessed from their lands.
Peter The Great seized the territory, known in recent times as Estonia. From Sweden He did this almost 300 years ago. I am not sure for how long prior to that the Estonians had pledged their allegience to Sweden's monarch. So, for all but 45 out of the last 300+ years, these states were part of the Russian empire and Swedish Kingdom before that.
The Estonians are all too aware that their "independence" stands only upon the assurances of other countries to treat them as independent. Twice at the River Narva -once in the early 1700s and once in 1944) the Estonians fought and won major battles against the Russians. Twice -in 1919 and again in 1991- they have declared themselves to be independent of Russia. And, because they have fought for their independence, such independence should be respected.
But, there is no logical reason for the United States to have made a military alliance with any of the Baltic States. It was done in a moment of arrogance. In a war between Est and West, these territories will serve only as trip wires and pass-throughs for advancing armies, much like the Benelux countries in the West have done.
Given their large ethnic Russian populations and given that Russia can threaten them from both East and West, they should resign from NATO and the EU, and should seek a neutral stance, much like that which was envisioned for Ukraine.
Estonia was annexted in 1919 by England, Germany . You can read about it in history books.
North-Western Army
the Weimar Republic
British Navy
Finnish volunteers
Swedish volunteers
The Danish volunteers
Baltic Landeswehr
Although not officially recognized as an independent country until early 1920, the Estonians had won their war of independence in 1919 against Germans, Russians, plus various elements from other countries bordering the Baltic.
Source: Wikipedia:
Following the Bolshevik takeover of power in Russia after the October Revolution of 1917 and German victories against the Russian army, between the Russian Red Army's retreat and the arrival of advancing German troops, the Committee of Elders of the Maapäev issued the Estonian Declaration of Independence[50] in Pärnu on 23 February and in Tallinn on 24 February 1918.
After winning the Estonian War of Independence against both Soviet Russia and the German Freikorps and Baltische Landeswehr volunteers, the Tartu Peace Treaty was signed on 2 February 1920. The Republic of Estonia was recognised (de jure) by Finland on 7 July 1920, Poland on 31 December 1920, Argentina on 12 January 1921, by the Western Allies on 26 January 1921 and by India on 22 September 1921
You need to find good history book, not a crap like wiki. USA are cleaning regularly articles from it
Enlighten us!
Please cite for us a source, and post an extract from that source, which supports your contention.
That was irony. afaik.