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"Putin Destroyed The New World Order", According To Estonia's President Ilves

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On the heels of Russia's decision, as we reported here, to "increase [their] combat units in accordance with the new military doctrine," particularly focused on Crimea, NATO responded with threats/promises of more military drills and patrols. Having used their airspace but condescended their perspective as "hysterical," Estonian President Toomas Hendrik Ilves is calling for much stronger NATO presence as he rages that "the world order found after the Cold War has been destroyed," by Putin.

As Die Welt reports (excerpted via Google Translate),

Q: Some EU and NATO members said Estonia was being hystereical [ in its response to Russian provocations]

Ilves: That's typical for people who do not want to look, what actually happened. The world order found after the Cold War has been destroyed. The UN Charter, the Helsinki Final Act were broken, the Paris Charter of 1990 - which says that each country can make his own decisions when it comes to its national security. Moscow has signed himself. That the Georgians towards NATO wanted 2008 was enough reason for a war on Russia. This time is the reason something as small as an Association Agreement with the EU.

Q. Do Estonians have reason to fear?

Ilves: We - in the EU and NATO - have no reason to fear. We are living in a situation such as in West Germany before 1989, the risk is there, one observes bad behavior.

Ilves: I'm really surprised that opinion writers and others in the French and German media blame the EU Association Agreement [for the tension between Russia and Ukraine]. This is little more than a free trade agreement and a student exchange. This is not a big deal. But the Putin [apologists] criticize the EU that it was a mistake.

I'll tell you something: May 8, 1945, the definitive answer to annex other territories because of the minority living there. Germany must understand Russia - this is a thought of blood and soil for us.

Q: Do you feel like an outsider in the Western Alliance?

Ilves: No, but we feel vindicated. For 20 years, us Eastern Europeans have been told to calm down, that Russia is a normal country. And now they see that we were right. A few days ago, we have seen first strategic bomber of the Russian Air Force over the Baltic Sea. And people say we are paranoid. Countries, who say this should rather pay attention to their high deficit and excessive wage costs.

Ilves: Russia has miscalculated the consequences of his actions are much larger than expected, they thought that passes everything quickly, as then in Georgia.

Q:  Do you see a change of mindset in Germany?

Ilves: Germany always found an excuse not to do something: the Second World War, the Gestapo, the Stasi.

Ilves: [NATO partners better change] Because it's embarrassing for them. Because there is not an intellectually convincing answer. But we are not dull small East subhuman. This condescending attitude towards Estonians is repulsive.

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Fri, 01/16/2015 - 11:36 | 5670260 zzzddd1
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In 1944 Estonians could only win a battle of independence againts USSR by fighting along with German Nazis. Which they did try and lost along with all Nazi's...

The Estonians were Nazi war criminals as judged by allies (USSR, US, UK, France).

The Estonan Nazi divisions were blokading (unsuccessfully) Leningrad (present StPetersburg) for 900 days and in the process starved out a > 1mil of civilians in that City. Talk about West/European human values here.

The current president is ancestor of these Nazi's one of a few who run away and now switched masters and got a new ZioMasters in the process. This CIA politican now pursues interests of his zio-masters, and cares little about regular Estonian, who emigrated en-mass to work as white-slaves in UK/West Europe. So I guess not much changed for the last 500years. 

 

Thu, 01/15/2015 - 22:24 | 5668292 joego1
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World order is overrated.

Thu, 01/15/2015 - 22:31 | 5668329 RECISION
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Man.. I wish I could give that a hundred thumbs up...

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 00:25 | 5668791 SofaPapa
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I'd give it another hundred...

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 00:43 | 5668824 August
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If there's one thing TPTB want, it's absolute stability, worldwide.

Doesn't mean that a little armed conflict isn't useful to keep the pot bubbling.

Thu, 01/15/2015 - 22:27 | 5668309 DIgnified
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All I know about Estonia I learned from Encino Man. 

Thu, 01/15/2015 - 22:47 | 5668404 Itch
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Who the fuck is paying for this gibberish to be printed? Give me a cut and i will start spurting this shit too. How much they paying you Durdens? 1 ruble per word? You must be worth a fortune, because you repeat the same nonsense day-in-day-out.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 00:06 | 5668728 bid the soldier...
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yep

day-in-day-out

and there's that balding dude with a baby beer belly pressing his nose against the window, reading every word while unconsciously drooling on his threadbare lapel. 

Thu, 01/15/2015 - 22:54 | 5668435 Son of Captain Nemo
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Gee?...

I wonder if Toomas visits the local pub every Friday night and buys a round for this guy?!!!

He must really appreciate the integrity of what he stated to Katherine Ashton being an Estonian representative and telling the unvarnished truth at who perpetrated the shootings in Maidan that started the coup!

 

Thu, 01/15/2015 - 23:02 | 5668460 Joe Tierney
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E'stoned'ia and all its eurotrash and Amerikan ilk lit Putin's fuse.....

 

What the hell do you expect when you have dog shit for brains and absolutely NO CONCEPT OF HISTORY AND ITS LESSONS?????   HHHMMMMMM?????

 

They all thought Amerika would protect them and they could piss all over Russia without consequences. Well, they damn well pissed on a supercharged electric fence, and now they whine and scream about aching balls!

Thu, 01/15/2015 - 23:06 | 5668477 HeavydutyMexica...
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what's an Estonian?

Thu, 01/15/2015 - 23:11 | 5668497 DeliciousSteak
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No doubt Putin is salivating at the thought of adding Estonia and Latvia to his empire. The hundreds of thousands ethnic Russians planted there during the Soviet occupation are certainly feeling very scared and require protection from Putin. Because these countries will never willingly join his "Eurasian project", he must find some other way to grab them. The fate of the Baltic hangs in the balance!

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 00:44 | 5668832 August
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Umm... are you serious?

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 06:22 | 5669277 dreadnaught
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yes he is....kinda tragic really

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 16:23 | 5671696 Bankster Kibble
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I kind of like that last line, tho.  Sounds like something from Marvel Comics.

Thu, 01/15/2015 - 23:52 | 5668677 acetinker
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Putin destroyed the new world order, and I'm supposed to see this as a bad thing?

Wisdom is finite, there is only so much any individual can know.  However, ignorance knows no bounds.

I think I might'a stole that from Einstein or some such other equally wisdom challenged asshole, at least he acknowledged it.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 00:21 | 5668785 XRAYD
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The so-called "New World Order" was created by bankers for bankers to run the world. If Putin has destroyed it, he had good reasons.

Besides, bankers running the world is not a good thing for the rest of us.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 01:10 | 5668905 UP4Liberty
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Mr. Putin,

Thank you.

American Citizen.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 01:31 | 5668954 honestann
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This guy Ilves is nuts.  Don't we wish the NWO was destroyed so easily!  And how many Russian planes do you see flying around Ilves... compared to planes from the USSA and NATO.  How many foreign military bases does Russia have compared to the USSA?  What?  Don't like simple questions?

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 02:49 | 5669076 BlackVoid
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What an idiot. Although he is right that Putin destroyed the new world order. But it is not the same as this moron thinks.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 03:21 | 5669102 pcrs
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If only that were true.

It does not happen very often a president calls for the foreign occupation to send more troops to his ow  country.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 03:55 | 5669147 Panic Mode
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And the NWO is full of greed, lies, and war is good. I welcome any politicians doing what Putin does.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 04:35 | 5669190 Joe A
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"For 20 years, us Eastern Europeans have been told to calm down, that Russia is a normal country. And now they see that we were right."

After the collapse of the SU the West had a chance to turn Russia into a 'normal' country but the boys from Harvard turned the Russian economy into a smoldering trainwreck with their shock doctrine. This led to the rise of the oligarchs and to the rise of Putin. Now these small Eastern European countries find out that they don't matter to the NWO, in fact not many countries do.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 05:14 | 5669226 basho
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"We - in the EU and NATO - have no reason to fear."
then why are you panicked you nato/nazi shill.

http://www.strategic-culture.org/pview/2011/08/10/estonia-and-neo-nazi.html

estonia has always been "on the other side of the tracks'
his way of thinking demonstrates why.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 06:13 | 5669275 The central planners
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Who voted for the neo-con new world order?  Who wants it? Who wants to be ensalved by perpetual debt? Who wants mercury in the vaccines and flouride in the water and eat junk gmo food? Who wants to die in fake wars just to protect the wotrhless fiat currency of the Rothschild cartel?

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 08:05 | 5669376 Alok
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go Putin!!

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 08:12 | 5669386 Rusputin
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Dear Mr Ilves,

You're referring to the kleptocratic new world order that we have lived in from 1973 to present, right?

I’m slightly confused; you want the thieving to continue until the serfs have absolutely nothing left, whilst you and your brethren have every last chip for yourselves?

OK, that's clear... So run your first point past me again please…

Mr Putin is evil because? Perhaps he has a grasp of human rights and international law, maybe he will even save humanity from you maniacs before it’s too late; is that not a good thing?

Let me know as soon as you can mate, I was already picking out my tree in the forest to go hang myself.

Many thanks and kind regards

RusPutin

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 11:52 | 5670385 InvalidID
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 A grasp of human rights and international law? Save humanity? How'd you type that with Putins cock crammed so far down your throat? Impressive!

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 08:55 | 5669499 Mike Masr
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As Victoria Nuland says, "Fuck the EU!"

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 08:57 | 5669500 Mike Masr
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As Alok says, Go Putin!!!!

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 11:17 | 5670136 Vin
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"Putin Destroyed The New World Order"

Mmm, maybe not so much.  Look, the reality of what's happening is this.  There are 3 groups of extremely wealthy family syndicates in the world, the Rothschild syndicate, the Russian ologarch syndicate, and some very old asian money now in control of the Chinese Communist party.

All they're doing is fighting among themselves as to how to rule the world.  We don't win regardless of which syndicate emerges victorious.  We're just slaves that take whatever they dish out.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 11:50 | 5670365 InvalidID
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 And if I HAD to pick one I'd go in this order 1. Rothschild (better the evil you know after all) 2. Russian (not a fan, but at least I understand them) And finally 3. Asian, which I would fight until dead to avoid. I can not get in line with the Asian mindset.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 11:52 | 5670368 InvalidID
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dup

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 11:48 | 5670351 InvalidID
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Ok, after reading the headline I read the article,,,, One thing is not related to the other. WTF? You guys are getting really outlandish with the Putin worship in here.

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 17:22 | 5671937 smacker
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"..he [Ilves] rages that "the world order found after the Cold War has been destroyed," by Putin."

This appears in the first paagraph. Is it not exactly what the article & headline is about?

Fri, 01/16/2015 - 21:21 | 5672599 InvalidID
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The world order after the cold war has been destroyed Vs. Putin destroyed the new world order.....

 

 Oh yeah, totally the same thing...

 

 Buncha fuckin monkeys...

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